Episode 118: Moab

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Welcome back to another episode
of Record, My Father.

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Today we're going to be talking
about Moab.

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What do you?
Have you been having a good time

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here?
Why are we talking about Moab?

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Because we're on location.
We came in here.

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What's today?
Today, Sunday, Saturday,

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Saturday, Right?
Yep.

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Saturday came in here.
Thursday afternoon, we came in,

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we flew in.
He flew in from Lai, flew in

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from where did I fly in from?
DC, Northern Virginia, Yeah.

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Northern Virginia, DC, whatever
the flights were.

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I mean weirdly from LA or from
DC.

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No direct flights then, but we
came here and we had this idea

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that we want to have have an on
location experience and we'll

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say, can you do it in a hotel
room?

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We're in a hotel room right now
and we're trying to like do our

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first episode.
So it's kind of cool for us and

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it's a cool experience.
I think right now for me the

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neatest thing about this is is
that it actually works.

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Yeah, we got to be really
careful with our volume though,

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our vocal volume because the we
can, we're trying not to make an

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echo in the room and I think
it's working so far, but we'll

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see how time goes on.
I think it's funny when you talk

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to me about volume.
Yeah, you, you are.

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One, two, be really, really good
at controlling your volume.

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You've always really good at
that.

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Mr. Loud Face Well, let's let's
recap How was your trip at?

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It's been good.
It took about 7.

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No, it's probably about 10 hours
in plane time to get here, which

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is about the same as going to
Japan.

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I thought that was funny.
There's only there's a really

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small airport here.
I didn't really realize that it

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was going to be smaller than any
airport ever been to.

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I think it might be the smallest
airport in the country.

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And then yesterday we did the
was the delicate Arches hike,

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which was great.
Oh my God, that was phenomenal.

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And that, well, the thing that
was most interesting to me is I

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was really set up for
frightening because I'm a I'm a

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I'm a Vertigo guy.
I hate heights.

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It just scares the hell out of
me.

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That's why I climb mountains.
Anyway, They have a narrow area,

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like right in the last say, what
do you think, 150 meters?

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Yeah, I would say like that. .2
Yeah.

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And it's probably about, it's
about 3:00, maybe 4 feet wide,

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and it drops off from about 100
feet, 150 feet to say 304

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hundred feet.
So I wouldn't even say that far.

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Yeah, but it's, but it drops off
enough to to scare you and, and

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you know, 100 feet is 10 story
office building.

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So it's more than that.
And and you're right at the edge

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of that.
The difference is with this.

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And the reason it didn't scare
me as much as most things scare

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me to death is that that the,
the walk up to it, the actual

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path is slanted towards the
Cliff, which is most of the ones

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I walk on are slanted away from
the Cliff to let the water run

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out.
But this was slanted to, it's a

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Cliff.
So it was, it made me feel like

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I wasn't going to fall off
because when they're slanted

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outward, you feel like you're
going to fall off into the, into

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the abyss or, and even if it's
20 feet, you'd freak out.

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It doesn't have to be far.
It's about what how you feel

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that you're going to fall off.
The the other thing is, is that,

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well, the path was hard.
It wasn't steps when I did Wayne

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and Pichu steps and steps you
have to, you have to focus, you

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have to focus a lot.
And you know, I just put my hand

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on the wall and went up and it
just, it did.

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And, and I think the fact that
the, the, the Cliff faded away.

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So you would have fallen maybe
20 feet, 30 feet, then rolled

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another 100 feet and then fallen
again and again and bounced off

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and died.
But.

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Well, we went on that drive
today too.

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What was that called?
It was Castle Rock Drive,

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something like that.
Castle.

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And I think you pulled over at
one point you said you gotta,

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you gotta drive now you gotta do
it.

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Yeah, that was very much very
similar to Pike's Peak.

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If you think about if anybody's
ever done Pike's Peak, that

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listens.
And if you drive to the top and

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you see it's just to the right
of you when you're driving up is

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sheer drop off.
This is that way.

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It's just while it's beautiful
and you and we have pictures,

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it's just like amazing that just
that this piece of property is

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in the United States and it's.
Like, yeah, that was what I was

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going to say.
So I don't think I've ever been

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anywhere in the US It is this
beautiful.

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And I've been to a number of
national parks.

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Even Yellowstone, I would say,
is not as pretty as this area.

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I don't think it is.
I mean, you got the Buffalo and

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Yellowstone, but other than
that, it's not even close.

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I mean, Glacier, maybe I've
never been there, but I would

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imagine that this is the
prettiest area in America that

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I've ever been.
Doesn't even feel like you're in

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America, that's how.
We had we had the chipmunks.

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So hey, you got Buffalo at
Yellowstone?

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Has Buffalo The Chipmunks?
Will be the thumbnail for this.

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That's a great.
Idea the the Arches National

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Park, that's where he went and I
think that of all the parks that

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I've been to, that's got to be
like at least top five, maybe

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top three.
You know, I always have to

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exclude Antarctica because I
don't know if the whole thing's

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a park or whatever.
It's it's sort of a joint thing

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that everyone owns.
But the parks in America that

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I've been to and it's like wow.
And we've been to the Grand

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Canyon.
You and I went to the bottom of

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Grand Canyon and walked ten
miles to Havasu Falls.

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Havasu Falls was beautiful.
It was a beautiful area.

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But this is driving up to it, to
the left, to the right.

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Everywhere you looked was just
amazing, you know?

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I'd say it's nicer than Joshua
Tree out here as well, even

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though it's very similar, very,
very similar, but it's just

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higher elevation I think here.
Oh, yeah, I didn't think about

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that.
You know what, what do we call

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it?
Moab is the the poor man's Paul

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Springs.
Yeah, that's what we're going to

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say too, Is it is it's a lot
like Palm Springs.

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Palm Springs is like the what
what You're in a valley, but

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it's not like a valley like this
where you have the the red rocks

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of Utah.
They're in the distance.

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Yeah.
You have to go.

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These are.
Right in your face.

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Here like 2 miles outside of
town, you know?

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If that, yeah, 10 minute drive,
yeah, it's really close.

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This was the closest drive from
an airport.

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Yeah, to a remote to area.
I think I've ever been, 'cause

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everything's like you get, you
get off the plane, you got to

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drive 2 hours.
But this was not like that at

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all.
This is really, really short.

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And this is our, this is, we're
downtown and Best Western, you

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know, in the middle of town.
And it's it's not, it's not

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crazy expensive.
And this is supposed to be the

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high season in October, you
know?

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So you're like, whoa, this is.
And we went on.

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I mean, doing the hike to me was
a little cathartic because I

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hadn't been on any distance
hiking up mountains since.

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When's the last time we did
Guatemala?

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I think 2017.
Yeah.

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But nothing.
Nothing.

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And it wasn't, you know, it's 4
miles round trip, but elevation

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was 607 hundred, something like
that.

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But walking along the side of a
Cliff is a big thing for me.

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And I mean, there's a lot of
people.

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I saw kids doing it, so kids can
do it, You know What the heck?

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It was steep though, in the
beginning, yeah.

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Very steep.
It was.

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It was, yeah, but it was steep
without stairs.

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I, I I'm just not a stair guy.
I don't, I don't like stairs.

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I did stairs and Machu Picchu
and it was very very.

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So you'd rather be walking on a
slant than on stairs?

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Exactly because then I, I can, I
can adjust my feet and I don't

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have to.
If you take a shorter or longer

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step, it doesn't matter if
you're doing stairs, you have

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to, you have to just how you
step.

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And and Machu Picchu, the stairs
are very weird.

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They're, they're built to make,
you have to look at them as

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you're walking.
And that's the the reason they

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did that and the, the Inca guys
did it is because if you attack,

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they're, they're usually at the
top of the mount.

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If you're attacking them, you
can't look at them.

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You have to look where you're
stepping.

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So the steps are different
depths, different widths like

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every other one.
So, yeah, so you have to keep

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your head down and you're
looking, staring at your feet

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the whole freaking time and your
neck hurts and you got to figure

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out how to adjust your back.
And, and I mean, day 2 on the

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Inca trail was like 5 hours on a
stairmaster.

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And you're like, you know, but I
did it.

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And you and then you camp at the
top of the mountain.

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You're up in the clouds.
That was really cool.

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I can see here that we are only
here for we have Friday,

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Saturday, and then we leave
Sunday.

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So we only have two days.
I wish we'd had three.

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I, I kind of messed up, but then
there's that anniversary thing I

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have coming up on Monday, which.
What would you do on the third

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day?
What would what would you have

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changed?
Well, what would I have changed?

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What would you do on the third
day?

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I would, I would, I would like
to go see other places.

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I saw winter falls and stuff
like.

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That I.
Mean if it's a little warmer, I

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would love they have something
called Mills Creek where you go

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up the Mills Creek and they have
a waterfall there and you walk

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through the water and it's kind
of slot like canyons and stuff.

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And that's supposed to be one of
the best places to go, but it's,

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it's like 65° outside.
It's like, I do not want to get

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wet.
The wind's blowing pretty good,

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you know, 25 miles an hour.
So you know, and you got to wear

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sunglasses otherwise your, you
know, your eyes are burned out

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because there's dust.
You know, this is this is dry

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country or you know, even though
we saw rain last night when

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we're driving around on our
Kawasaki's, that was just nuts.

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Yeah, the what was it, the high
country?

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Driving here was was a lot of
fun, unlike anything I've ever

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done in my life.
Yeah.

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And it's, you see people always
drive up the sand dunes.

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This is not that.
This is slick rock kind of

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driving up on that.
And that's completely different.

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I didn't realize it's a sport
out here.

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It's actually considered a sport
because you have all these

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challenging terrains to do.
But I'm like, I'm wondering,

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he's like, yeah, you need the
skill to drive in the out.

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But I'm like, what skill do you
necessarily need to build up?

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I don't really understand that
but.

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Well, well, what happens is, is
when you're driving fast, and I

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think it's harder when you're in
a line with somebody in front of

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you that you have to adjust for
their calories.

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When you're going up a mountain,
the thing that people don't want

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to do is they don't want to peek
over the top and then not know

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where they're going to go.
And then it'd be an edge and go

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off at the Cliff.
So they will, you know, keep

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letting off the gas.
And when you let off the gas,

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you can't get it up the
mountain.

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So there's that catch as catch
can, you know, you're always

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trying to speed faster to get up
the mountain, but then your fear

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saying, no, I don't want to go
too fast, go there too fast,

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I'll lose control.
So there's kind of like that.

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I guess that's kind of the race
car mentality is the same way,

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you know, how do you drive 180
miles an hour around circle?

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You know, I can draw a better
lift than you, as Cortman would

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say, but doing it at 180 miles
an hour, and I've never been 180

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miles an hour.
I'd like to hop in one of those

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things and as a passenger and,
and see and feel that

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experience.
I think that would be just an

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amazing rush, you know?
They go faster than that then.

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Oh yeah, 220, you know, and I
mean the Formula One of the I

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think are the fastest.
Those are the ones that average

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like 210 or something.
You're thinking like that is the

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world is coming at you at
incredible speeds.

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I mean, I remember, you know,
driving 1/21/30 and, and on an

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Autobot and you're just, you're
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anything that comes in kills all
passengers.

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Yeah, you told me about that guy
that flipped over that one time.

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There was a.
Complete flattened Porsche.

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There was a Porsche and there
was like a slow down because one

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of the lanes was closed.
And we come up to it and there's

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like a door and glass and metal
and steel and all this kind of

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stuff, and it stretches for
maybe 2 football fields.

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So you can see that he flipped
and he rolled on pavement for

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200 yards.
Think about how that is.

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And at the end was a Porsche on
its hood upside down with there

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was still glass spread around
it, no doors.

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And it was burnt silver, like
black, you know, because it

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caught on fire.
And I'm guessing I don't have

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any idea on what happened to the
passengers or passenger or

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whatever, but it was just like
an experience that makes you go

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maybe maybe because that that's
when I was testing my metal on

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how fast I could go in a little
car.

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And we had like a little tiny
Mercedes.

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I was with my brother and Bob
and his daughter and we were

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doing the Audubon and it was in
kilometers.

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And I had no idea.
And I was doing well.

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I'm doing 100 kilometers well at
60 miles an hour, OK.

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That reminds me of Mongolia,
where this woman, there's a goat

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in the road.
And then she flipped her car

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three times and there were old
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Nobody wears a seat belt there.
And we got there, like, I think

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it was two or two to three
minutes after the crash happened

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because they were all stuck in
the car and we had to help pull

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them out.
You extricated them?

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Yeah, but I thought they OK.
I thought they would be dead

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because the whole thing was
smashing in the front and the

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whole roof was escaped in.
So I was like, I thought we were

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going to be pulling our bodies,
but nobody died, nobody dined.

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Were they all standing and fine?
Yeah, everybody's all right.

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Just a little dizzy.
No, there's this one woman, like

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her whole left side of her face
was like swollen, like a huge

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knot in her face.
And it was.

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Crazy.
So she hit something.

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Yeah, they were all concussed,
without a doubt, because they

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had a bunch of stuff in the back
too.

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They were going somewhere.
Yeah.

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That was that was wild.
Yeah.

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What'd you?
Do with them, I think they just

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called the ambulance then we
left.

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How?
Far is an ambulance away in.

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We were not that far, I think it
was like 2 hours away probably

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from where we were.
Yeah, because we were travelling

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on a main highway.
It wasn't.

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It wasn't on the back Rd.
We saw that last night with the

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helicopter coming in grabbing
somebody.

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So we see that every day when
they're when they're riding the

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what's the Hells something or
other.

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I can't remember Hell's Canyon
trail or something.

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Yeah, it was just and we saw.
What do we see?

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No, I don't know.
Reminds me about the HANA.

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Hell's Revenge is what it's
called Moab.

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Iconic and extremely difficult.
4x4 off road in Moab and we got

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it was self driving.
It was not like we sat in the

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back of the seat, which I didn't
want to do.

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I didn't realize it was crazy as
it was.

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It was just out.
I, I, there's no way I could

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have done it.
I mean, the first in the 1st 10

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minutes, we, we, we drive to the
location where you start and you

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start, you drive over this like
it looks like an arch, like a

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McDonald's arch.
It's 4 feet wide.

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It drops, it starts out, you
know, from the ground and you go

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up to about an 80 foot drop off
on either side and you're you're

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driving and you're literally 1
foot from each side, you know,

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and, and that's the first thing
you do.

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And I'm just thinking like, man,
I am so glad I would have

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cowered it out.
I would have chickened out

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really quick there.
And, and the guy was talking

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about, yeah, most people what
they play the coward Carter

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early.
Yeah.

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No, that's really the test of
all that was probably the

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hardest thing we did was the was
the beginning portion of it

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because it was really, really
tall and narrow.

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And it feels like you're in one
of those video games where

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you're on like the motocross
bike and you have to like

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platform your way over it.
And no, that was kind of a an

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awakening in the beginning.
It was wild.

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Yeah, you got better.
With time, well we went to what

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was it Zach's last night, the
restaurant and they similar

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pizza I ever had where they put
the toppings on after they cook

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it 'cause I think that was that
was odd.

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I don't think I've ever had an
after topping pizza like that.

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Very.
Strange.

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That was really odd.
What?

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What other places did we eat at
the day before that?

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We ate on the plane.
Oh yeah.

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You know it's not loading that
by order.

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No, no, they didn't do a meal on
my plane.

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Really.
No.

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The best thing I ate was at the
Denver airport so far.

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Yeah, it was chicken pad Thai
and it was, I was shocked, Asian

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food and airport generally a
huge mess.

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But that did that was not a
mess.

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That was a tremendous hit.
And I was very, very surprised

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about that.
I would say the best thing that

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I had was in the what was that
like trailer park court?

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What was that?
Oh yeah, the hot dog place.

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Yeah, it was food truck court.
They have one in the middle of

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the lohab and there's like 20
different places and you got

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everything from hot dogs made
every which way.

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And it's it's not just a hot
dog.

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It's like like a nine inch, you
know, half smoke, just amazingly

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put together snaps when you bite
into it.

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Like it has a really good skin.
I was shocked.

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Oh my gosh.
And then you had a, you had a

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fried chicken sandwich and I was
just like, knocked me down.

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It was just, it was put together
really, really well.

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I'm a condiment man.
I loved it.

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The sauces were a perfect sauce
ratio, I would say yeah.

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It's hard to find that kind of
food that that's the good.

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What was it?
Was like ranch or something with

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no it was blue cheese.
Which Buffalo?

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Sauce mixed together, put on the
top and.

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It was Buffalo blue blue cheese.
Yeah, yeah.

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It just knocked me down.
It was so good.

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I was like, whoa, you got to eat
when?

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But then I had my hot dog and
I'm like, man, because I'm a hot

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dog.
I love to eat hot dogs

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everywhere.
I don't know maybe it's a a

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Wiener fetish I who knows.
But anyway.

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I think it definitely is.
Well, yeah, let's just stay,

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stay and say stupid shit because
that's what we do here at the

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Brown.
House.

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That's why we have a podcast.
That's where we get a podcast so

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we can say dumb shit and we hope
that nobody listens.

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And if they do, they can tell
us, hey, you shouldn't say that

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because I want to hear.
We need to be.

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All we really need to do to get
a bunch of subscribers is to get

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cancelled.
So we want to be cancelled.

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Maybe we should say that we're
going to Riyadh to do the we're

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going to do the next episode
there and we're going to talk

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about.
We're actually doing Saudi

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Arabian oil money and we're
actually going over there to

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start our second podcast called
A Record of My Sharia Law.

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And that's what we're going to
do.

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We're going to do Sharia law
history.

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I was thinking we could do.
Standpoint.

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We could do a special episode on
Boil the Journalists.

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Oh, I like that.
Which one tastes the best but.

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You don't.
You just boil.

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I don't know.
That seems to be the thing, you

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know, and we don't really care.
I mean, we care, sadly, but it

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seems like a lot of our fellow
compatriots don't.

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But that it is what it is there.
I didn't realize they were doing

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that.
I thought it was more of a

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Russian thing.
I thought so too.

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No, but he he actually the guy
that the whoever the head dude

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is over there.
I don't know what they.

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I don't know.
Mr. Mr. Mr. you know, doctor

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Muslim guy anyway, he, he was
more inappropriate shit.

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And he he was the one that
orchestrated there was a

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Washington Post columnist who
wrote a lot of bad stuff about,

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well, the truth, you know, about
their society.

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And he didn't like it.
So he had his team.

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Capture that man in a hotel and
kill him, chop him up and put

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him in and dissolve him.
And we had proof and, but we

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didn't like and we, I think we
sanctioned him for a year or

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something.
Like that?

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What year was?
This, it's 4-5 years ago.

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It's not that long ago.
But the journalists were like,

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Oh my God, that's horrible,
that's horrible, that's

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horrible.
And now, I mean, you think about

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what's happening to journalists.
There's what is there like in

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Gaza?
Over 300 journalists have been

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killed.
Wow.

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There's no other place in the
world.

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Well, they're just trying to
kill on them all.

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Yeah, Well, that, you know, you
if if you don't have a

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journalist, you don't have
anybody telling what you're

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doing.
You know, Hitler was really good

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at that.
There weren't any journalists

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there.
Well, that's what you see too,

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is the the the kind of narrowing
of the 1st Amendment.

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Yeah, which is in our country.
I never understood this whole

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thing of why we've always
allowed hate speech to be a part

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of that First Amendment, even
though in every other civilized

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country in the world, not
civilized country, but in any

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other country, because I don't
believe in the term civilized

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country really is the idea that
losers get to still voice their

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opinion and fly their flag in
this country and that shouldn't

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be allowed?
I don't know.

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That's just me.
Here's the thing.

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I think the reason that we seem
to be having more problems is

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that you can, you can, you can
put your elbow on the freedom of

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speech in our constitution and
you can say incredibly shitty

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things about other people and
other races and everything you

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want, but that draws people.
Look what he said.

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How horrible is that?
And that draws people to your

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sight.
And unfortunately, that's how

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people are getting compensated.
So if I do a podcast like it, we

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were to invite Nazi Bob over and
he talks about how great it is

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to kill this certain type of
people or this religious person

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or whatever.
People would listen to our

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website just to tell us that we
were horrible and then and then

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that withdraw our revenue.
And it's like, wow.

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You're writing me a check
because.

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I'm a horrible person.
I think that hurts really bad,

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you know, and you and you listen
to this and it's like that.

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We have forced, you know, with
the media.

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It's we've actually, it seems
like we stepped up and said,

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hey, we're going to compensate,
you know, I understand being

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outrageous, you know, and I
think Stern was more outrageous

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than he.
Did a lot of outrageous.

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Things it's like, look at these
outrageous kind.

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Of racist or this kind of, I
don't even want to call it a

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counterculture because the Ku
Klux Klan is an encounter

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culture.
It's it's a terrorist

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organization, Yeah.
And, and it's like, well, look,

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this, this exists in this
country.

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And I think it was part of that.
But it was also kind of, I don't

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know, extorting that for money,
which actually I kind of approve

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of, because if you're extorting
those people from money, then

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that's kind of a good thing.
Yeah.

446
00:23:00,880 --> 00:23:03,600
But I mean.
They're using them to drive

447
00:23:03,600 --> 00:23:07,160
their viewership because people
will be horrified of what they

448
00:23:07,160 --> 00:23:09,480
say and do.
And so you listen to it because

449
00:23:09,480 --> 00:23:11,120
you want to hear.
And it's like, that's what they

450
00:23:11,120 --> 00:23:13,240
used to be say about Stern and
that's what they say about a lot

451
00:23:13,240 --> 00:23:15,000
of people.
This is like, I don't know what

452
00:23:15,000 --> 00:23:18,760
he's going to do next Springer.
Asked Jerry.

453
00:23:18,760 --> 00:23:21,280
Springer was very similar and
you had the other.

454
00:23:21,280 --> 00:23:23,200
Guys that were, you know, who
were the ones that got kicked

455
00:23:23,200 --> 00:23:30,600
off the air, Somebody in Anthony
that they had somebody go into

456
00:23:30,600 --> 00:23:35,160
like some Catholic Church, I
forgot Saint Paul's or whatever,

457
00:23:35,160 --> 00:23:40,240
a famous one that's in Boston,
and they were doing an audio

458
00:23:40,240 --> 00:23:42,280
with them while they were having
sex on the Pew.

459
00:23:43,120 --> 00:23:44,920
Whoa.
I mean, just think about.

460
00:23:45,080 --> 00:23:50,720
How like really that's
entertainment's gone down to

461
00:23:50,720 --> 00:23:52,760
that.
I mean, that's definitely well,

462
00:23:52,760 --> 00:23:55,120
I remember at a certain.
Time in history, in America and

463
00:23:55,120 --> 00:23:57,960
in the world, we, we celebrated
people for being intellectuals

464
00:23:58,160 --> 00:24:01,400
and I, and I don't think that I
can really name any

465
00:24:01,400 --> 00:24:05,120
intellectuals currently other
than Ezra Klein or Neil deGrasse

466
00:24:05,120 --> 00:24:06,600
Tyson.
Even Neil degrasse Tyson's

467
00:24:06,600 --> 00:24:11,760
leaning into this kind of like
celebrity homage kind of thing,

468
00:24:11,760 --> 00:24:14,320
which is embarrassing 'cause
that's Noel Chomsky is still.

469
00:24:14,600 --> 00:24:16,800
Alive, right?
He can't talk anymore.

470
00:24:17,000 --> 00:24:19,120
He has throat cancer, he's 90
years old.

471
00:24:19,760 --> 00:24:23,160
And so he's, I would say that
he's of the last generation of

472
00:24:23,160 --> 00:24:28,200
those people that were like Carl
Sagan, for instance, or yeah,

473
00:24:28,680 --> 00:24:32,120
Niels Bohr was similar that we
celebritize people that actually

474
00:24:32,120 --> 00:24:34,680
accomplished things, where now
we celebritize people that

475
00:24:35,480 --> 00:24:39,760
entertain us, but entertain us
in a way that dumbs down

476
00:24:39,760 --> 00:24:41,920
America.
I don't know because they say.

477
00:24:42,000 --> 00:24:46,200
Outrageous things that aren't
true and for some reason, truth

478
00:24:46,200 --> 00:24:48,520
doesn't matter anymore.
And as much as Joe Rogan.

479
00:24:48,520 --> 00:24:50,560
Wants to be intellectual.
He never will be.

480
00:24:50,600 --> 00:24:52,760
I don't know, just 'cause you
say things that are

481
00:24:53,120 --> 00:24:56,080
counterculture, that are
questions 'cause you're playing

482
00:24:56,080 --> 00:24:58,280
devil's advocate, 'cause you
wanna be interesting.

483
00:24:58,560 --> 00:25:02,640
Intellectuals don't purposely
want to be interesting, and they

484
00:25:02,640 --> 00:25:05,280
are interesting because they're
interested in the truth.

485
00:25:05,440 --> 00:25:07,000
I don't know.
Yeah.

486
00:25:07,000 --> 00:25:08,880
And that's the thing when they.
When you start to see them

487
00:25:08,880 --> 00:25:12,640
getting checked and he's like
and and bringing people on that

488
00:25:12,640 --> 00:25:16,200
spout like this long stuff of,
you know, how the vaccines are

489
00:25:16,200 --> 00:25:17,800
bad and this and that and the
other.

490
00:25:17,800 --> 00:25:23,400
And then and it's like, but if
you, if we did that, if we had a

491
00:25:23,400 --> 00:25:29,440
podcast where we brought on
somebody like Battle Head Health

492
00:25:29,440 --> 00:25:33,640
and Human Services, JFK, if we,
I mean, something like that, if

493
00:25:33,640 --> 00:25:35,880
he started, yeah.
Yeah, if he.

494
00:25:35,880 --> 00:25:40,040
Started making the claims that
he makes on national television.

495
00:25:40,640 --> 00:25:42,760
I'd be lie.
I'd, I'd have like 5 people

496
00:25:42,760 --> 00:25:44,920
behind us fact checking
everything he said and saying

497
00:25:45,160 --> 00:25:49,120
that's not true, that's not
true, that's not true, that's

498
00:25:49,120 --> 00:25:50,960
not true.
You're lying.

499
00:25:51,200 --> 00:25:53,480
You're lying.
Where did you get that lie from?

500
00:25:53,640 --> 00:25:57,280
How did you, how did you decide
to formulate that lie and to

501
00:25:57,280 --> 00:26:01,720
spread it to a mass of people
who you who follow you and

502
00:26:01,720 --> 00:26:05,360
believe what you say and you lie
to them like that.

503
00:26:05,360 --> 00:26:08,240
And that to me is like how
there's just there's such a

504
00:26:08,320 --> 00:26:13,760
horrible section of America that
that they get they get off on

505
00:26:13,760 --> 00:26:17,320
the fame and they don't give a
shit about the consequences.

506
00:26:17,320 --> 00:26:19,680
They completely agree.
And it's like I.

507
00:26:19,680 --> 00:26:23,200
Can't you know if, if you give
me a, we could get a book of

508
00:26:23,200 --> 00:26:26,560
things that you and I could say
about, you know, Jewish people

509
00:26:26,560 --> 00:26:30,440
or black people or or white
people or whoever.

510
00:26:30,800 --> 00:26:34,920
And you, you would get more
people listening to you because

511
00:26:34,920 --> 00:26:37,680
they're pissed off at you.
And then you would get other

512
00:26:37,680 --> 00:26:41,840
people that are of that genre
that would jump on and defend

513
00:26:41,840 --> 00:26:45,440
you to fight your right to say
shitty things.

514
00:26:45,720 --> 00:26:51,040
And it's like, and then each
time they fight, you get, Oh my

515
00:26:51,040 --> 00:26:54,360
God.
It's just, it seems like we're,

516
00:26:54,400 --> 00:26:57,880
we're, we're going into a really
weird place in the US.

517
00:26:57,880 --> 00:26:59,480
You know, we definitely are.
And it's.

518
00:26:59,480 --> 00:27:01,840
Only going to get worse within
the next three years.

519
00:27:01,880 --> 00:27:06,000
But at the same time, would you
come back to Moab?

520
00:27:06,560 --> 00:27:09,680
Maybe, I don't know.
I don't really see what else I

521
00:27:09,680 --> 00:27:13,160
would do here, to be honest.
It wouldn't come in the summer

522
00:27:13,160 --> 00:27:16,160
because it's 120° here during
the summer spring.

523
00:27:16,440 --> 00:27:18,440
Wonderful.
Trip, but I feel like we I mean,

524
00:27:18,440 --> 00:27:20,920
I guess I'd drive the entire
park on something I would do.

525
00:27:21,360 --> 00:27:23,080
I would drive the entirety of
it, right.

526
00:27:23,080 --> 00:27:24,560
And that's the one thing that I
do.

527
00:27:24,560 --> 00:27:27,760
Maybe a camp here?
Other than.

528
00:27:27,760 --> 00:27:29,960
That I was like what?
I would hike milts.

529
00:27:32,960 --> 00:27:36,040
I would do the Lions place up
there.

530
00:27:36,040 --> 00:27:39,000
I would do that.
I would do, I would do.

531
00:27:39,120 --> 00:27:40,720
It would just be a lot more
hiking, that's all.

532
00:27:40,720 --> 00:27:42,840
Same hiking, mountain, stuff
like that.

533
00:27:43,440 --> 00:27:46,560
I think the next place I really
want to do like this is the slot

534
00:27:46,560 --> 00:27:48,440
canyons and and they're in Utah
too.

535
00:27:48,440 --> 00:27:49,840
I don't know if they're
somewhere around here.

536
00:27:50,320 --> 00:27:53,120
Well, this trip made me.
Realize that I need a nut up and

537
00:27:53,120 --> 00:27:57,480
I need to do Half Dome, which is
like 14 miles and I I want to do

538
00:27:57,480 --> 00:28:00,200
that, but it's like I don't
really with that even that 4

539
00:28:00,200 --> 00:28:01,560
Miller.
I was like, man, I haven't

540
00:28:01,560 --> 00:28:02,840
cooked right now.
Yeah.

541
00:28:03,000 --> 00:28:05,480
That, that, that wiped me out.
I, I, I had my.

542
00:28:06,160 --> 00:28:09,200
It was like 90.
Degrees, yeah, but I'm I'm.

543
00:28:09,480 --> 00:28:13,080
I mean, when we were in China,
we were doing, we were doing 8-9

544
00:28:13,080 --> 00:28:13,720
miles.
No, I'm a.

545
00:28:14,120 --> 00:28:16,440
Cardiovascularly out of shape?
Yeah.

546
00:28:16,560 --> 00:28:17,040
No.
Under.

547
00:28:17,200 --> 00:28:18,640
Yeah.
Yeah, me.

548
00:28:18,640 --> 00:28:21,240
Too 100%.
That's what this made me realize

549
00:28:21,640 --> 00:28:24,160
I'm I'm thinking.
Of looking into studies and

550
00:28:24,160 --> 00:28:28,200
stuff to see if if smoking
cigars is bad for your

551
00:28:28,200 --> 00:28:29,920
cardiovascular system.
I'm not sure.

552
00:28:29,920 --> 00:28:32,280
I don't think so.
I don't have any proof.

553
00:28:32,280 --> 00:28:37,560
Of that, that I know of, you
know, so I keep smoking cigars

554
00:28:37,560 --> 00:28:40,560
and it's like, well, luckily I
didn't smoke one before we went

555
00:28:40,560 --> 00:28:44,040
on the trip.
I'm really, really glad that, I

556
00:28:44,040 --> 00:28:45,360
mean, the government's shut
down.

557
00:28:45,360 --> 00:28:50,840
So we had a timed entry for
today at 2:00.

558
00:28:51,200 --> 00:28:55,240
So we wouldn't have been able to
go until, I don't know, another

559
00:28:55,800 --> 00:28:58,600
couple hours here and you're
like, whoa.

560
00:28:59,240 --> 00:29:01,800
But we did it first thing.
And I got to say, that was

561
00:29:01,800 --> 00:29:03,080
amazing.
The government shut down.

562
00:29:03,120 --> 00:29:04,640
Yeah, I know.
That really helped out.

563
00:29:05,040 --> 00:29:07,360
It really helped out and.
I'm surprised by that.

564
00:29:07,440 --> 00:29:11,440
It's really not that crowded.
I think a lot of people bag

565
00:29:11,440 --> 00:29:14,080
because the government and we,
you know, I've seen this before

566
00:29:14,600 --> 00:29:17,080
where things shut down and
that's kind of the best time to

567
00:29:17,080 --> 00:29:19,760
go, you know, think about.
It we.

568
00:29:20,200 --> 00:29:22,480
We went to Turkey when,
remember, we went to Turkey and

569
00:29:22,480 --> 00:29:25,280
Turkey had all the civil unrest
and it's frightening and the

570
00:29:25,600 --> 00:29:27,320
riots on the streets and it's
horrible.

571
00:29:27,320 --> 00:29:29,000
It's horrible.
And we go there and the State

572
00:29:29,000 --> 00:29:32,360
Department had put it in a four
or five, like how scary it was

573
00:29:32,360 --> 00:29:34,080
that you could die and be shot
in the street.

574
00:29:34,400 --> 00:29:35,680
And we go there and there's
nothing.

575
00:29:36,280 --> 00:29:41,280
And we found out the real reason
is that there was this park and

576
00:29:41,280 --> 00:29:45,520
it was probably about 400 meters
long, 200 meters wide.

577
00:29:45,600 --> 00:29:48,720
And it was the last green space
in Istanbul.

578
00:29:49,600 --> 00:29:52,440
And the people wanted to keep
the park because it was just a

579
00:29:52,440 --> 00:29:54,360
place you could go and sit under
the trees.

580
00:29:54,840 --> 00:29:58,080
And the government want to cut
it down and build more shops.

581
00:29:58,400 --> 00:30:00,040
And it was like, and that was
the fight.

582
00:30:00,040 --> 00:30:01,880
And we go there in the middle of
the day.

583
00:30:01,880 --> 00:30:05,040
We stumbled across it because we
were wandering through the city,

584
00:30:05,040 --> 00:30:09,680
the wife, I and you.
And remember, we saw two buses

585
00:30:10,080 --> 00:30:14,640
full of guys, old military gear
with MP fives and they were out

586
00:30:14,640 --> 00:30:17,960
sleeping under the trees.
We're like, where where's the,

587
00:30:17,960 --> 00:30:19,760
where's all the riots?
And they're like, oh, no, they

588
00:30:19,800 --> 00:30:21,280
all at work.
It's like what?

589
00:30:21,680 --> 00:30:24,320
Well, they only they, they, they
finish their work and they come

590
00:30:24,320 --> 00:30:27,040
here in the afternoon evenings
or they come on weekends.

591
00:30:27,240 --> 00:30:31,280
And we're like, there's a time
schedule.

592
00:30:31,480 --> 00:30:34,240
And it's like, that's really not
what I would think.

593
00:30:34,240 --> 00:30:36,240
Would it be a that was the first
time as a?

594
00:30:36,240 --> 00:30:39,280
Kid Well, that was really
disheartening.

595
00:30:39,760 --> 00:30:42,440
Is that you realize that the
government isn't made to help

596
00:30:42,440 --> 00:30:45,800
you.
And that really, really upset

597
00:30:45,800 --> 00:30:47,320
me.
It's 'cause it's like you

598
00:30:47,320 --> 00:30:49,560
believe that people are out for
your best interests until you

599
00:30:49,560 --> 00:30:52,040
turn 12, and then you learn that
they're all just lying to you.

600
00:30:52,040 --> 00:30:55,920
And that's just you.
I don't know.

601
00:30:56,240 --> 00:31:00,840
But I wonder if the Turkish
government had pissed off the US

602
00:31:00,840 --> 00:31:03,240
government.
Because think about it, if

603
00:31:03,240 --> 00:31:06,480
there's a no travel in another
country, you think to yourself,

604
00:31:06,480 --> 00:31:08,000
Oh my God, it must be scary and
horrible.

605
00:31:08,880 --> 00:31:10,600
But then you go there and you
find out it's not.

606
00:31:10,600 --> 00:31:12,880
It's like I did that in Mexico
and they said Mexico like, oh,

607
00:31:12,880 --> 00:31:14,920
they're killing people, drug
cartels.

608
00:31:14,920 --> 00:31:16,600
You can't go to Mexico and it's
horrible.

609
00:31:17,080 --> 00:31:20,880
Well, my nephew had a wedding
there and we traveled there and

610
00:31:20,880 --> 00:31:25,600
I never saw anything.
We went out, we went out at we

611
00:31:25,600 --> 00:31:30,880
went out after the wedding at
11:00 at night and we went into

612
00:31:30,880 --> 00:31:34,040
the little, the, the town of I
don't remember the town.

613
00:31:34,040 --> 00:31:35,960
It's in the middle of Mexico.
It's beautiful area.

614
00:31:36,560 --> 00:31:40,120
And, and it was part of the
government had, you know, state

615
00:31:40,120 --> 00:31:42,680
departments like don't travel
alone, don't travel at night,

616
00:31:42,680 --> 00:31:46,920
don't do this, don't do that.
We went bar hopping and we went

617
00:31:46,920 --> 00:31:51,040
into this motorcycle bar, which
is really funny because it's a

618
00:31:51,040 --> 00:31:53,720
lot of Hispanic guys and
they're, they're smaller than we

619
00:31:53,720 --> 00:31:55,280
are.
So it looks really interesting

620
00:31:55,280 --> 00:31:57,280
when they're trying to be
intimidating in full leather,

621
00:31:57,840 --> 00:32:00,520
you know, And they all had the
motorcycles parked out front and

622
00:32:00,520 --> 00:32:04,600
we went inside and I went, I
went with a brother-in-law and a

623
00:32:04,600 --> 00:32:06,600
few other people.
And we'd been in there and had

624
00:32:06,600 --> 00:32:09,160
tequila and drink a bunch and,
you know, and it was just a

625
00:32:09,160 --> 00:32:11,920
great band and a great time and
nobody, nobody messed with us

626
00:32:11,920 --> 00:32:14,200
and we didn't mess with anybody.
And then we walk out.

627
00:32:14,200 --> 00:32:16,480
It's like 2O clock in the
morning or 1:30.

628
00:32:16,480 --> 00:32:18,240
It's late.
We're, we're about 1/2 in the

629
00:32:18,240 --> 00:32:20,400
back.
We're walking on an empty St.

630
00:32:20,400 --> 00:32:24,640
And, and we're Americans and we
have money and they could have

631
00:32:24,640 --> 00:32:28,120
robbed us, stolen us, you know,
taken us anywhere, anything out

632
00:32:28,120 --> 00:32:31,080
of soul, nothing.
And I, I was just like, this is

633
00:32:32,400 --> 00:32:35,600
if, if you travel a lot
internationally, you'll get a

634
00:32:35,600 --> 00:32:39,880
sense of when you're in an area
that's not good, you'll get a

635
00:32:39,880 --> 00:32:41,600
you're, you're the back of your
neck.

636
00:32:41,600 --> 00:32:44,560
The hair rises.
We remember Guatemala.

637
00:32:45,360 --> 00:32:48,920
Yeah, that was.
No, I would not go back there or

638
00:32:48,920 --> 00:32:50,200
Ecuador.
Remember Ecuador?

639
00:32:50,480 --> 00:32:52,880
Ecuador was weird.
That was also weird.

640
00:32:53,200 --> 00:32:55,480
We're we're in a.
Marriott, the wife and I and we

641
00:32:55,680 --> 00:32:57,640
and, and me and him, we go out
and go for a walk.

642
00:32:57,640 --> 00:32:59,680
We're going to go for a walk and
he's going to go out the door.

643
00:32:59,680 --> 00:33:01,840
Go to the right.
You can walk for the right, but

644
00:33:01,840 --> 00:33:04,880
don't, don't go to the left.
And I would, my directions are

645
00:33:04,880 --> 00:33:07,400
backwards.
Obviously I went to the left and

646
00:33:07,400 --> 00:33:10,480
we walked and we stopped and he
was looking for T-shirts.

647
00:33:10,480 --> 00:33:13,080
He's buying T-shirts for one of
his buddies or friends to say,

648
00:33:13,080 --> 00:33:16,800
hey, I, I was in Ecuador because
we've gone to the just for.

649
00:33:17,560 --> 00:33:20,520
Clarification.
I was 11 at this point.

650
00:33:21,080 --> 00:33:27,200
Yeah, we went to a shop.
We had you got some T-shirts?

651
00:33:27,240 --> 00:33:28,320
Yeah, I remember those.
And we're.

652
00:33:28,320 --> 00:33:31,120
Getting ready to go.
And remember, she said.

653
00:33:31,120 --> 00:33:34,600
Do you want me to call you a
taxi?

654
00:33:34,600 --> 00:33:39,000
And it was just getting dark and
I thought it was scam like, oh,

655
00:33:39,000 --> 00:33:40,960
she's going to stick me in her
brother's taxi.

656
00:33:40,960 --> 00:33:44,760
So he charged me $80.00 to go up
two miles because we were about

657
00:33:44,760 --> 00:33:46,040
a mile.
We're probably a mile from the

658
00:33:46,040 --> 00:33:47,520
hotel, I think.
Yeah, we've.

659
00:33:47,520 --> 00:33:50,720
Walked pretty, pretty far, yeah.
And I and.

660
00:33:50,720 --> 00:33:54,800
I and I walked to the front door
and I looked and we're like

661
00:33:54,880 --> 00:33:58,320
right off of a corner, like a
four way stop and there was

662
00:33:58,320 --> 00:34:02,800
stops and there guys on each
corner and when they saw me walk

663
00:34:02,800 --> 00:34:06,760
with you to the front, they just
looked at me like they were

664
00:34:06,760 --> 00:34:13,239
lions and I was gazelle.
I'm a very slow gazelle.

665
00:34:13,239 --> 00:34:16,679
So I realized that I would be
food if I'm not there.

666
00:34:16,679 --> 00:34:18,960
And it was just and I turn
around and look at the lady and

667
00:34:18,960 --> 00:34:21,639
she was like standing there with
her head cock sideways like now

668
00:34:21,639 --> 00:34:23,360
you believe me?
She didn't say anything.

669
00:34:23,360 --> 00:34:25,120
So you went taxi.
I called you a taxi.

670
00:34:25,600 --> 00:34:27,960
You need to get in a taxi.
And then we we get went back to

671
00:34:27,960 --> 00:34:31,960
the hotel and then later when we
went in that was early on.

672
00:34:31,960 --> 00:34:33,520
That was when we went to
Galapagos.

673
00:34:33,840 --> 00:34:39,480
Later when we went to Guatemala,
it was you and I hiking and we

674
00:34:39,480 --> 00:34:44,520
went up and we hiked Santa Maria
and when we came back down to

675
00:34:44,520 --> 00:34:45,880
the main city, we were in Guat
City.

676
00:34:45,880 --> 00:34:50,440
Then that one of the guys wanted
cigarettes across the street and

677
00:34:50,440 --> 00:34:53,440
he goes out and we were walking
out the front door and a stamp

678
00:34:53,440 --> 00:34:57,720
inside just freaks out like
we're in AI think we're in a

679
00:34:57,720 --> 00:35:01,520
Hilton or whatever the hell
Marriott whatever there.

680
00:35:01,520 --> 00:35:03,720
Well, the guys in the.
Front that were guarding the

681
00:35:03,720 --> 00:35:07,320
hotel have AK-40 sevens OK yeah
that's what it and.

682
00:35:07,400 --> 00:35:12,080
That was.
Crazy golden AK-40 sevens at a

683
00:35:12,160 --> 00:35:16,160
hotel we had to have.
Many shots at that point, so I

684
00:35:16,160 --> 00:35:17,200
was blackout.
Drunk.

685
00:35:17,400 --> 00:35:22,880
All right, I was blackout drunk.
RRRR what do you call it?

686
00:35:23,760 --> 00:35:29,560
R our smarts about staying safe
work that button was off that

687
00:35:29,560 --> 00:35:32,200
was broken and we went over
there and I remember going over

688
00:35:32,200 --> 00:35:34,600
there with I think it was Jose
and a few and who's Jeff

689
00:35:34,600 --> 00:35:37,200
somebody else wanted sick.
I forgot who it was and we go

690
00:35:37,200 --> 00:35:41,280
there and they have bars on the
window to like it looks like

691
00:35:41,280 --> 00:35:44,600
just a little shop.
But the so they were looking at

692
00:35:44,600 --> 00:35:48,360
us with their eyes just like, Oh
my gosh, you guys are coming out

693
00:35:48,360 --> 00:35:50,880
here to buy this stuff.
And we didn't think even of it

694
00:35:50,880 --> 00:35:54,360
in the, in the, in the, and the
Commander D at the hotel that

695
00:35:54,360 --> 00:35:59,480
was just across the street was
inside the hotel yelling at us

696
00:35:59,480 --> 00:36:01,280
to come back.
He wouldn't come out.

697
00:36:04,120 --> 00:36:06,720
And we didn't, we didn't know.
And then we just turn around and

698
00:36:06,720 --> 00:36:10,080
we stagger back across the
street, went back inside and

699
00:36:10,080 --> 00:36:15,200
he's, you can't do that.
No, no, stupid gringo, you know,

700
00:36:15,200 --> 00:36:17,960
And it's like, yeah, we're
pretty stupid gringos, you know,

701
00:36:17,960 --> 00:36:20,920
but I was looking all the.
That was wild, just to go across

702
00:36:20,920 --> 00:36:23,200
the street.
I've never seen that anywhere

703
00:36:23,200 --> 00:36:24,600
else in the world.
Yeah, that.

704
00:36:24,600 --> 00:36:30,320
Was well, we also remember we
went to Quatzen Alto Quatzenito,

705
00:36:30,320 --> 00:36:31,840
which is in the north of
Guatemala.

706
00:36:31,840 --> 00:36:34,280
That's where Santa Maria was.
That's where the active volcano

707
00:36:34,280 --> 00:36:36,840
that we climbed was.
This is what, 7 years ago?

708
00:36:37,200 --> 00:36:41,920
The that night stupidly we were
climbing it.

709
00:36:41,920 --> 00:36:43,520
The next morning we were leaving
at 4:00.

710
00:36:45,240 --> 00:36:49,800
We went up to the top roof and
decided that we would have a

711
00:36:49,800 --> 00:36:53,160
drink and that was a mistake
because they had a bottle left

712
00:36:53,640 --> 00:36:56,720
of Stoli's that was just, I
thought it was.

713
00:36:56,760 --> 00:36:59,840
Grey Goose and nobody was.
There and we're like, OK, let's

714
00:36:59,840 --> 00:37:01,400
have a shot.
And then we had another and

715
00:37:01,400 --> 00:37:03,480
another, another.
And we're looking out over and

716
00:37:03,480 --> 00:37:05,920
we're on like the we're on the
rooftop of the building.

717
00:37:05,920 --> 00:37:08,040
The building's probably like
1215 stories tall.

718
00:37:08,480 --> 00:37:10,080
We're looking out and you can
you.

719
00:37:10,720 --> 00:37:13,640
At first we thought it was
fireworks and then we'd see big

720
00:37:13,760 --> 00:37:18,440
fires around the city and it was
gunfire and it was gunfire in a

721
00:37:18,440 --> 00:37:22,280
lot of different places.
And we couldn't think that there

722
00:37:22,280 --> 00:37:24,880
was any celebration going on.
So you're like, why are they

723
00:37:24,880 --> 00:37:27,800
doing that?
I mean, it was just, it was

724
00:37:27,800 --> 00:37:32,520
crazy to see that and to say,
wow, I mean, it was a great

725
00:37:32,520 --> 00:37:35,200
place during the day.
But I, but night time it just,

726
00:37:35,680 --> 00:37:37,840
you know, all things off.
But I've seen this in a lot.

727
00:37:37,840 --> 00:37:39,280
I saw, I saw this in Buenos
Aires.

728
00:37:39,280 --> 00:37:42,600
I've seen this in a lot of
different places where during

729
00:37:42,600 --> 00:37:47,680
the day it's it's OK, during the
night, stay inside, you know,

730
00:37:47,840 --> 00:37:50,200
but Moab isn't.
Like that Moab is great.

731
00:37:50,560 --> 00:37:54,680
You can go out anytime you want.
It's it's a small town.

732
00:37:55,160 --> 00:37:59,760
Yeah, it's, I would say similar
to Palm Springs, like we were

733
00:37:59,760 --> 00:38:02,640
saying before.
And then it seems like it's up

734
00:38:02,640 --> 00:38:04,440
and coming now.
They just built a West End or

735
00:38:04,440 --> 00:38:10,320
something kind of outside of the
town but I want to do.

736
00:38:10,320 --> 00:38:13,800
Zion Next.
Zion might be the on the list

737
00:38:13,800 --> 00:38:18,200
because I think Zion is also
known for similar geological

738
00:38:18,200 --> 00:38:21,920
things such as the arches that
are here we have the arches.

739
00:38:21,920 --> 00:38:26,240
Here and we think about think
about we started talking about

740
00:38:26,240 --> 00:38:30,440
this trip probably long time ago
and 6-7 we.

741
00:38:30,440 --> 00:38:32,920
Were going to 9 years.
Ago Yeah, we have this trip.

742
00:38:32,920 --> 00:38:35,747
This is going to be Memphis and
we're going to do it at the bass

743
00:38:35,747 --> 00:38:39,240
pro We still want to do one
there, but we decided to switch

744
00:38:39,240 --> 00:38:43,120
to here for, I don't know,
because it's sunnier, it's

745
00:38:43,120 --> 00:38:44,320
beautiful and all that kind of
stuff.

746
00:38:44,320 --> 00:38:48,800
So we, we, we switched gears 3
weeks ago and then just came

747
00:38:48,800 --> 00:38:53,720
here on a lark and it's been an
incredible, I mean, just

748
00:38:53,720 --> 00:38:56,920
incredible to do this and to
have the ability to do this to,

749
00:38:56,920 --> 00:39:02,440
to spend like something that I
wouldn't have thought that I

750
00:39:02,440 --> 00:39:04,680
would have this much fun.
When you think about things that

751
00:39:04,680 --> 00:39:07,160
we've done while we've been
here, what do you think?

752
00:39:07,160 --> 00:39:12,520
The real, I mean, for me, it's
like personal things.

753
00:39:12,520 --> 00:39:14,640
I didn't think I was going to be
a walk off that ledge.

754
00:39:15,000 --> 00:39:17,600
I, I had apprehension.
I thought I was going to make it

755
00:39:17,600 --> 00:39:20,600
to the edge of the ledge and
then I was going to stop.

756
00:39:20,600 --> 00:39:22,760
And when I stopped, that was
going to be it.

757
00:39:22,760 --> 00:39:25,480
I was not going to.
I was just going to freeze and

758
00:39:25,480 --> 00:39:28,080
then turn around and let you go
see the arches and come back,

759
00:39:28,080 --> 00:39:30,920
take pictures and then, you
know, tell you to airbrush my

760
00:39:30,920 --> 00:39:34,080
face in.
But I actually made it.

761
00:39:34,080 --> 00:39:35,960
And that to me is my one of my
successes.

762
00:39:35,960 --> 00:39:38,920
The second one was on the
opposite side of the arch.

763
00:39:38,920 --> 00:39:41,840
You have to climb up this sheer
kind of wall.

764
00:39:42,240 --> 00:39:45,040
When you climb up the wall, it's
it's, it's fallible.

765
00:39:45,680 --> 00:39:49,200
And I climbed up the wall and
got to the edge and you can take

766
00:39:49,200 --> 00:39:52,360
it's, it's another picture that
you take from there.

767
00:39:52,360 --> 00:39:53,600
That's a really nice.
Yeah.

768
00:39:54,040 --> 00:39:55,800
It's better cross than the one,
in my opinion.

769
00:39:55,840 --> 00:39:58,520
Yeah, across the whole valley.
And and to the arches

770
00:39:58,520 --> 00:40:00,800
themselves.
And it's like that was amazing

771
00:40:00,800 --> 00:40:02,760
to me because I couldn't walk
all the way under the arches.

772
00:40:02,760 --> 00:40:05,840
I was too scared of the heights.
I'm just freaky that way, you

773
00:40:05,840 --> 00:40:07,360
know, what about you?
What was your?

774
00:40:07,360 --> 00:40:10,120
What was your?
What was your aha moment for

775
00:40:10,120 --> 00:40:11,880
this trip?
I'd rather drive.

776
00:40:11,880 --> 00:40:14,760
In the drive in, I knew it was
going to be good 'cause I it

777
00:40:14,760 --> 00:40:17,640
didn't look like anything that
I'd seen before and that was

778
00:40:17,640 --> 00:40:21,800
just like the surrounding area
of the the red hills of Utah.

779
00:40:23,120 --> 00:40:24,240
Which were really shocking,
that.

780
00:40:24,240 --> 00:40:29,120
And then the the autumn colors
today on the drive, we're crazy,

781
00:40:29,680 --> 00:40:32,040
I think.
On the drive in, how many times

782
00:40:32,040 --> 00:40:35,080
did I say holy shit?
Like about 100?

783
00:40:35,080 --> 00:40:36,640
Yeah, no.
We were.

784
00:40:36,640 --> 00:40:39,280
We were pleasantly surprised.
Yeah, you get shot it.

785
00:40:39,400 --> 00:40:43,360
It was in Denver, the Valley of
the Gods.

786
00:40:43,360 --> 00:40:45,800
Is that what it's called?
It's outside of Denver.

787
00:40:45,800 --> 00:40:48,120
We went to Denver.
We went there and saw those

788
00:40:48,120 --> 00:40:49,840
rocks and they're beautiful and
all that.

789
00:40:50,120 --> 00:40:53,880
But that's like, you know,
couple 100 square meters.

790
00:40:54,720 --> 00:40:59,200
This is like a couple 1000
square miles and it's just it's

791
00:40:59,240 --> 00:41:01,680
vast.
It's like the Grand Canyon, but

792
00:41:01,680 --> 00:41:03,880
it's accessible.
The Grand Canyon to me.

793
00:41:03,880 --> 00:41:06,840
You have to walk to the bottom
to actually get used to it.

794
00:41:06,840 --> 00:41:10,400
But, and that's, that's a hoof.
It's a hoof to get to the bottom

795
00:41:10,400 --> 00:41:13,560
and start to walk through it to
see how amazing and fast it is.

796
00:41:13,760 --> 00:41:17,120
But here you can basically walk
up to the walls and walk up to

797
00:41:17,120 --> 00:41:20,200
the, the, the valleys and things
like that and see everything up

798
00:41:20,200 --> 00:41:25,840
close easily and quickly.
And, and it's, it's not crazy

799
00:41:25,840 --> 00:41:28,280
expensive.
I mean, the food's, I mean the,

800
00:41:28,400 --> 00:41:30,400
the food's like New York food
prices.

801
00:41:30,400 --> 00:41:33,200
But I think you can, you know, a
lot of people come here, they,

802
00:41:33,400 --> 00:41:36,840
they rent a cabin and then they
go to the store and they buy

803
00:41:36,840 --> 00:41:39,160
food because the people we met
said, Oh yeah, I bought food for

804
00:41:39,400 --> 00:41:42,040
my room and I just eat that.
I'm like, wow, that's a, that's

805
00:41:42,040 --> 00:41:45,040
a good way to do it economically
and to see more, you know,

806
00:41:45,040 --> 00:41:47,080
because you got to look at, it's
like not everybody's on a rich

807
00:41:47,080 --> 00:41:49,360
scale where they can just fly in
and do what the hell they want

808
00:41:49,360 --> 00:41:51,560
and not worry about the economic
side.

809
00:41:51,560 --> 00:41:56,040
But it's like, you know, I mean,
to me, it's like travel is the

810
00:41:56,040 --> 00:41:58,400
closest.
Store those like an hour away,

811
00:41:58,400 --> 00:41:59,920
right?
Oh yeah, he said.

812
00:42:01,000 --> 00:42:02,560
Like chain grocery?
Stores.

813
00:42:02,560 --> 00:42:04,280
It was a grand.
Junction.

814
00:42:04,680 --> 00:42:09,440
It's a Sam's Club and it's an
hour and 45 minutes each way

815
00:42:11,040 --> 00:42:12,640
and.
You're like, whoa.

816
00:42:12,640 --> 00:42:18,280
So we think about like, wow, you
know, it's my, my, my Giant is 2

817
00:42:18,280 --> 00:42:20,640
miles away.
But a peak traffic, it can be 45

818
00:42:20,640 --> 00:42:24,560
minutes, yeah.
And then I think we're.

819
00:42:24,560 --> 00:42:27,480
About 230 miles from Salt Lake
City as well.

820
00:42:27,600 --> 00:42:29,680
Yeah, we could drive there and.
Get food, which is.

821
00:42:29,920 --> 00:42:31,760
That works fine, damn near
close.

822
00:42:31,760 --> 00:42:34,440
Enough to the Sam's Club.
Yeah, that's it.

823
00:42:34,560 --> 00:42:35,480
Yeah.
Yeah.

824
00:42:35,640 --> 00:42:38,720
It's really crazy.
I have to say that I'm, I'm

825
00:42:38,920 --> 00:42:41,440
pleasantly surprised that we
figured out how to work this,

826
00:42:41,760 --> 00:42:44,120
you know, technologically we
were, we were really concerned.

827
00:42:44,120 --> 00:42:46,840
This is the first time we've
ever brought the equipment in

828
00:42:46,840 --> 00:42:48,520
our suitcases and actually used
it.

829
00:42:48,520 --> 00:42:50,600
We've done it a number of times.
Oh man did.

830
00:42:50,600 --> 00:42:53,160
We take it to Sicily.
No, did we?

831
00:42:53,160 --> 00:42:54,160
No, no.
No.

832
00:42:54,160 --> 00:42:55,840
Where else did we take it?
And we didn't use it, I just

833
00:42:55,840 --> 00:42:57,560
brought it back to.
Virginia, you bring it back

834
00:42:57,560 --> 00:43:00,040
three or four times, you're
like, we're going to use it,

835
00:43:00,040 --> 00:43:01,120
we're going to.
Use it and we don't.

836
00:43:01,120 --> 00:43:03,720
Yeah, we never do.
But now this kind of.

837
00:43:03,720 --> 00:43:06,400
Makes me think, wow, we got to
do destinations and go to

838
00:43:06,400 --> 00:43:10,080
destinations and it's hard
because he's actually sitting

839
00:43:10,080 --> 00:43:13,520
about 3 feet from me.
We want to see that I can pick

840
00:43:13,520 --> 00:43:16,440
this up and say and show you
he's right over there.

841
00:43:16,520 --> 00:43:20,000
It's shocking that I'm.
Order a microphone with no sound

842
00:43:20,000 --> 00:43:23,800
diffuser or like box around it.
That this this works really

843
00:43:23,800 --> 00:43:25,000
well.
There's no echo.

844
00:43:25,200 --> 00:43:28,600
I'm I'm shocked I can hear what
you're saying but at the same

845
00:43:28,600 --> 00:43:31,200
time the mic isn't picking it up
which is rather shocking.

846
00:43:33,080 --> 00:43:34,960
Good equipment, good stuff.
I like that.

847
00:43:35,720 --> 00:43:39,640
I mean, I'm thinking like, So
what else?

848
00:43:39,640 --> 00:43:41,000
What have you learned from this
trip?

849
00:43:42,600 --> 00:43:46,520
America is beautiful, Yeah, I
kind of knew that before, but I

850
00:43:46,560 --> 00:43:49,560
didn't know to this extent.
It really re.

851
00:43:49,560 --> 00:43:52,720
It re, whatever you call it,
reinvigorates your thoughts

852
00:43:52,720 --> 00:43:55,120
about the beauty of the country
that we live in.

853
00:43:55,280 --> 00:43:59,440
Oh, yeah, sorry.
I'm sort of on the I don't want

854
00:43:59,440 --> 00:44:03,200
to spring politics in it, but
I'm supposed to.

855
00:44:03,200 --> 00:44:05,320
I'm I'm from the side that's
supposed to hate America, but I

856
00:44:05,320 --> 00:44:10,320
don't.
It's gorgeous.

857
00:44:10,320 --> 00:44:12,960
Here, but I got to say.
That this, this is the kind of

858
00:44:12,960 --> 00:44:16,560
thing that you look at it and
you're like, wow, we live in a

859
00:44:16,600 --> 00:44:21,080
beautiful, wonderful place.
We need to take care of it and

860
00:44:21,080 --> 00:44:24,640
we need to like, wow, our kids
need to see it.

861
00:44:24,760 --> 00:44:26,640
My kids seen it.
So after that, I don't give a

862
00:44:26,640 --> 00:44:28,720
shit.
Let's throw trash over, you

863
00:44:28,720 --> 00:44:31,360
know, and I'm not going to pay
any taxes for you Park Rangers,

864
00:44:31,360 --> 00:44:34,160
you blood sucking people who
keep keep park opens.

865
00:44:34,160 --> 00:44:35,560
And yeah, that's wonderful and
beautiful.

866
00:44:35,560 --> 00:44:38,280
It's the it's.
Those people and trial lawyers

867
00:44:38,280 --> 00:44:41,160
are the big problem.
Park Rangers and trial lawyers

868
00:44:41,160 --> 00:44:45,080
are the enemies of America.
But at the same time, this whole

869
00:44:45,080 --> 00:44:47,640
thing made me understand van
life a lot more.

870
00:44:47,840 --> 00:44:51,600
Yeah, there's this guy that I
saw in a brief video a couple

871
00:44:51,600 --> 00:44:54,360
months ago, and it was like,
yeah, I'm hiking every bound in

872
00:44:54,360 --> 00:44:55,760
America.
I live in a van.

873
00:44:55,760 --> 00:44:57,360
I'm like, you know what?
That doesn't sound like the

874
00:44:57,360 --> 00:45:00,480
worst thing in the world if
you're by.

875
00:45:00,480 --> 00:45:03,000
Yourself, it's OK, but I think
that, I mean I've heard my wife

876
00:45:03,000 --> 00:45:05,120
talked about that saying, oh,
that would be a nightmare.

877
00:45:05,360 --> 00:45:07,320
With proximity to another
person.

878
00:45:07,360 --> 00:45:09,400
Oh my God.
Well, she has a friend of hers.

879
00:45:09,400 --> 00:45:12,360
That told her that it was
really, really cool and she

880
00:45:12,360 --> 00:45:14,600
said.
But here's the thing, remember

881
00:45:15,200 --> 00:45:17,200
you're going to go into
something a little bigger than

882
00:45:17,200 --> 00:45:21,760
the size of your master bedroom.
If you have a master bedroom and

883
00:45:21,760 --> 00:45:27,040
with a bathroom and you're going
to be in that room for a month,

884
00:45:27,280 --> 00:45:30,320
30 days and the only way.
And that's where you live.

885
00:45:30,640 --> 00:45:33,480
That's where you do everything
that's and think about that as

886
00:45:33,480 --> 00:45:37,040
being your house.
And then how close to proximity

887
00:45:37,040 --> 00:45:40,280
and how you can't get away from
each other, You know, And I love

888
00:45:40,280 --> 00:45:43,840
my wife and my wife loves me.
And it's like, but, you know,

889
00:45:43,840 --> 00:45:47,160
any space.
Yeah, if you're by yourself.

890
00:45:47,160 --> 00:45:50,600
Makes a whole lot more sense,
yeah, yeah than if you're, if

891
00:45:50,600 --> 00:45:52,360
you're sharing it with somebody,
I can see that it.

892
00:45:52,360 --> 00:45:53,520
You got to really love that
other.

893
00:45:53,520 --> 00:45:56,240
Person you know you really you
really got to it's.

894
00:45:56,720 --> 00:46:00,080
Tolerance is hard thing,
Tolerance and patience, because

895
00:46:00,080 --> 00:46:02,280
you have to realize that you're
going to stay stupid shit that

896
00:46:02,280 --> 00:46:05,600
you're thinking, which I do all
the time and then filter.

897
00:46:05,840 --> 00:46:08,480
And it's hard to take shit back.
When you, you know, if it just

898
00:46:08,480 --> 00:46:10,240
pops out of your head, well, you
really mean it.

899
00:46:10,240 --> 00:46:12,000
It's like, well, actually I do.
That's why I said it.

900
00:46:12,320 --> 00:46:17,240
But I mean, fucking asshole.
It's like, yeah, I know it's,

901
00:46:17,240 --> 00:46:21,600
it's, it's not a it's just,
it's, it's who you are or what

902
00:46:21,600 --> 00:46:24,040
you are that makes you say it
and do the things that you do.

903
00:46:24,040 --> 00:46:27,120
And it's like, wow.
And that, that would be tough.

904
00:46:27,120 --> 00:46:31,520
I think that me, I would rather
just, you know, hotel it hotel

905
00:46:31,520 --> 00:46:35,720
it in a nice car and a big car,
big giant car that, you know, in

906
00:46:35,720 --> 00:46:41,800
1968 El Dorado Cadillac
convertible with electric

907
00:46:41,800 --> 00:46:43,440
windows and really good air
conditioning.

908
00:46:44,280 --> 00:46:47,480
Oh, that makes sense.
Yeah, you'd have to.

909
00:46:47,520 --> 00:46:50,520
Spend 400 grand on a custom.
I saw a custom on online that I

910
00:46:50,520 --> 00:46:52,360
would love to win.
It's one of those, you know,

911
00:46:52,360 --> 00:46:55,080
dream things that you see this
really cool car they're making

912
00:46:55,080 --> 00:46:58,040
all those VW.
Buses now electric too, yeah,

913
00:46:58,040 --> 00:46:59,160
Which is?
Interesting.

914
00:47:00,440 --> 00:47:03,520
They're 300 miles and it's like,
my gosh, I don't want.

915
00:47:03,520 --> 00:47:04,640
I don't want to.
I will.

916
00:47:04,640 --> 00:47:07,120
Never buy an electric car
knowing that like I had a friend

917
00:47:07,120 --> 00:47:08,680
of mine come stay with me
recently.

918
00:47:08,840 --> 00:47:13,800
He actually rented an electric
car and he spent 4, 4 hours of

919
00:47:13,800 --> 00:47:19,040
his trip of two days charging
the car and like, what do you

920
00:47:19,040 --> 00:47:20,600
can do?
He's like, just walked around,

921
00:47:20,720 --> 00:47:23,840
like around the area.
Yeah, that's just.

922
00:47:24,720 --> 00:47:27,160
That's not what you pay for.
Doesn't sound like.

923
00:47:27,160 --> 00:47:29,120
Fun.
Well, we paid nuts for.

924
00:47:29,120 --> 00:47:32,840
The Jeep for four days.
So silly.

925
00:47:32,840 --> 00:47:36,000
Be stupid, you know, this has
been this has been a great trip.

926
00:47:36,200 --> 00:47:37,560
No, it has been.
We got.

927
00:47:38,160 --> 00:47:41,040
We head out tomorrow morning.
Tonight, we're probably after

928
00:47:41,040 --> 00:47:41,920
this.
We're going to go.

929
00:47:41,920 --> 00:47:47,000
What are we going to do by the
the somebody's going to take a

930
00:47:47,000 --> 00:47:48,160
nap.
I'm taking a nap.

931
00:47:48,440 --> 00:47:50,800
This is what old people.
Do I know man?

932
00:47:51,280 --> 00:47:53,760
We we take our.
Afternoon naps because we did

933
00:47:53,760 --> 00:47:56,040
all of our exercise and running
in the morning we'll probably

934
00:47:56,040 --> 00:47:58,160
hit the gym.
You know, the gym here is not

935
00:47:58,160 --> 00:48:01,520
totally horrible about Western.
I know it's like any other

936
00:48:01,520 --> 00:48:03,280
hotel.
Gym, they got a, they got a

937
00:48:03,280 --> 00:48:04,800
pool.
That's cold, so we can go out

938
00:48:04,800 --> 00:48:06,560
and jump at the cold pool.
I can't.

939
00:48:06,560 --> 00:48:08,680
Wait, it's hot or degrees
outside, you know?

940
00:48:09,800 --> 00:48:11,360
Yeah.
What do we have for time on

941
00:48:11,360 --> 00:48:11,960
this?
You know?

942
00:48:12,360 --> 00:48:15,160
Oh, I think we're we're.
At about 50 minutes, so all

943
00:48:15,160 --> 00:48:16,360
right, I'm.
Well.

944
00:48:17,600 --> 00:48:19,360
I'm ready, yeah.
I think is our.

945
00:48:19,360 --> 00:48:24,160
First episode on the road, we'll
be seeing another one and the

946
00:48:24,160 --> 00:48:27,000
next one will be on the road
again and we'll have to play

947
00:48:27,000 --> 00:48:29,120
that song in the background.
What is that on this?

948
00:48:29,120 --> 00:48:31,160
He'll be a mini series.
Within the series, like the

949
00:48:31,160 --> 00:48:32,640
interview series?
Yeah, we'll do.

950
00:48:32,760 --> 00:48:34,280
We'll, we'll.
Call this on the road.

951
00:48:34,760 --> 00:48:36,400
Colon, Moab.
That's what we'll do.

952
00:48:36,880 --> 00:48:38,720
Think about the people.
That we met, who did we meet?

953
00:48:38,720 --> 00:48:41,360
That was, I mean, I met the guy
on the plane, on the Contour

954
00:48:41,360 --> 00:48:44,720
Airlines, little jumpy plane and
he's a guy that lives in Maine.

955
00:48:45,280 --> 00:48:50,880
He lives in Maine, takes care of
his mom, and he does, What is

956
00:48:50,880 --> 00:48:53,840
it, exterminator.
He's an exterminator.

957
00:48:53,880 --> 00:48:56,400
And he's just like, really the
happiest, nicest guy in the

958
00:48:56,400 --> 00:48:58,280
world.
He's right wing somewhat.

959
00:48:58,280 --> 00:49:03,000
And he said, yeah, but I don't,
you know, And we got along well.

960
00:49:03,000 --> 00:49:04,600
And we've seen him here once in
town.

961
00:49:04,920 --> 00:49:07,760
He's here motorcycling with one
of his buddies and somebody

962
00:49:07,760 --> 00:49:10,480
else.
And it was just like when you

963
00:49:10,480 --> 00:49:14,360
get people away from the things
that separate them.

964
00:49:14,920 --> 00:49:21,120
I think that you turn out that
humans are not all you know, I'm

965
00:49:21,120 --> 00:49:23,880
not sure you agree with that.
But no, people have.

966
00:49:23,880 --> 00:49:28,640
Demonized others on a political
basis in this country for those

967
00:49:28,640 --> 00:49:33,680
since 2008 her money say.
And it's really well it's a

968
00:49:33,680 --> 00:49:36,480
distraction from what the the
billionaires are doing.

969
00:49:36,480 --> 00:49:39,120
There's a war that is happening
and it's top down.

970
00:49:39,120 --> 00:49:44,640
It's not left or right.
And I think the middle class

971
00:49:44,640 --> 00:49:46,720
needs to rise up and I think
more people need to kill

972
00:49:46,720 --> 00:49:48,240
billionaires.
So that's just what I think.

973
00:49:48,640 --> 00:49:50,800
Yeah, Luigi.
Go Luigi.

974
00:49:50,920 --> 00:49:54,200
Yes, more of them.
More of them what happened Yep,

975
00:49:54,360 --> 00:49:58,520
that didn't happen all right
well thank you for listening and

976
00:49:58,640 --> 00:50:01,720
we will talk to you next week
Oh, we met the couple from.

977
00:50:01,720 --> 00:50:04,720
Indiana, I hope, if they listen.
Oh yeah, yeah, yeah.

978
00:50:04,840 --> 00:50:06,320
Who?
Who is it, Don?

979
00:50:07,160 --> 00:50:08,880
I can't remember.
You can't remember.

980
00:50:09,080 --> 00:50:12,040
It was Don and I can't remember
and her his name was probably

981
00:50:12,040 --> 00:50:13,480
not Don, but they were in
Indiana.

982
00:50:13,480 --> 00:50:14,000
They.
Were.

983
00:50:14,480 --> 00:50:15,480
Yeah, they were just like we
were.

984
00:50:15,480 --> 00:50:17,960
Sitting on the top of the arches
and we're sitting there in the

985
00:50:17,960 --> 00:50:20,000
shade and we just said hi.
And they said hi.

986
00:50:20,000 --> 00:50:21,760
And then we started talking
about what we did and they

987
00:50:21,760 --> 00:50:25,560
talked about what they did.
And, and, and I think that is

988
00:50:25,960 --> 00:50:31,360
the when we start to touch on
the humanity of people and

989
00:50:31,360 --> 00:50:33,080
smile.
I make jokes with everybody and

990
00:50:33,080 --> 00:50:35,800
I start conversations and I'm
weird and old.

991
00:50:36,040 --> 00:50:39,040
So people see me as harmless.
I don't get close to little kids

992
00:50:39,040 --> 00:50:41,040
because that's too fucking
creepy, you know?

993
00:50:41,040 --> 00:50:43,880
And just like to be open and
friendly.

994
00:50:43,880 --> 00:50:47,040
I mean, last night I was sitting
after we'd come back.

995
00:50:47,520 --> 00:50:49,920
I didn't tell you the story.
I was sitting out front.

996
00:50:49,920 --> 00:50:53,200
I was smoking a cigar.
This couple was walking with

997
00:50:53,200 --> 00:50:54,760
their little four Year 5 year
old.

998
00:50:54,760 --> 00:50:58,000
She was running in front of him
and she runs in front of the the

999
00:50:58,080 --> 00:51:02,480
end the cut in and this guy with
a with a pickup truck turns and

1000
00:51:02,480 --> 00:51:05,040
his lights are shining around.
He was going to run over the kid

1001
00:51:05,040 --> 00:51:08,480
and he stopped.
And then they run across little

1002
00:51:08,480 --> 00:51:10,520
so and so.
And then she trips and she cries

1003
00:51:10,520 --> 00:51:13,680
and he pulls it and he parks and
he gets out and I'm like, Oh my

1004
00:51:13,680 --> 00:51:16,400
God, I was going to film that.
You didn't follow through.

1005
00:51:16,640 --> 00:51:18,920
And he starts laughing.
He goes, you're going to film me

1006
00:51:18,920 --> 00:51:21,560
killing somebody?
And I said, no, I wanted to film

1007
00:51:21,560 --> 00:51:24,720
you not killing somebody because
that's a good thing.

1008
00:51:24,720 --> 00:51:27,720
So you're a good person.
And I wanted to film a good

1009
00:51:27,720 --> 00:51:29,680
person and put a good person on
the web.

1010
00:51:30,040 --> 00:51:32,160
And he started laughing.
But it was just signed about,

1011
00:51:32,480 --> 00:51:35,760
you know, that kind of like,
wow, good people stop.

1012
00:51:35,760 --> 00:51:38,760
They don't run over children,
even though he had the right of

1013
00:51:38,760 --> 00:51:44,520
way and he had the right to.
Yeah, I know.

1014
00:51:44,520 --> 00:51:46,320
I it was just.
Kind of weird, you know, but it

1015
00:51:46,320 --> 00:51:48,600
was just sort of like an off
shooting talking and it was just

1016
00:51:48,600 --> 00:51:51,120
kind of comical to do that way.
But, and I know we were trying

1017
00:51:51,120 --> 00:51:53,040
to end this, but I'm going to
keep talking because I have more

1018
00:51:53,040 --> 00:51:54,480
stories and they just keep
breaking up.

1019
00:51:54,480 --> 00:51:57,080
When we think about when you
think 10 minutes about what we

1020
00:51:57,080 --> 00:52:00,680
were doing and how we're doing.
And it's like, I'm happy.

1021
00:52:02,040 --> 00:52:04,560
Me as well.
Congratulations on your first

1022
00:52:04,560 --> 00:52:07,120
episode.
First episode.

1023
00:52:07,640 --> 00:52:09,880
Yeah, on the.
Road, Oh, on the road, yeah.

1024
00:52:10,240 --> 00:52:13,160
That's been great.
Yeah, that's what we got to do

1025
00:52:13,520 --> 00:52:16,640
going forward.
Is is Tour road one well?

1026
00:52:16,640 --> 00:52:17,920
That's what comedians do, and
it's.

1027
00:52:17,920 --> 00:52:23,480
Kind of like this whole idea.
The comedians are now like have

1028
00:52:23,480 --> 00:52:26,080
become podcasters first before
they became comedians.

1029
00:52:26,400 --> 00:52:29,880
And they do tours all the time,
which is interesting.

1030
00:52:30,480 --> 00:52:32,600
But I'm not funny.
So and I don't know.

1031
00:52:32,920 --> 00:52:35,560
You can be if you plan it.
Everything is planned, Yeah.

1032
00:52:35,920 --> 00:52:38,000
Nothing's just nothing.
Sporadic on stage.

1033
00:52:38,040 --> 00:52:40,520
Sometimes crowd work is, but
other than that, no True.

1034
00:52:40,600 --> 00:52:42,240
You have.
To you have you have to practice

1035
00:52:42,280 --> 00:52:45,840
yeah other than crowd work it's.
Not it's not really.

1036
00:52:45,920 --> 00:52:47,920
When I did speeches, it was.
It was random.

1037
00:52:48,640 --> 00:52:54,280
It was.
Like six hours of Rep just and

1038
00:52:54,280 --> 00:52:57,760
for 15 minute speech, just over
and over and over and over and

1039
00:52:57,760 --> 00:52:59,480
over and over and over and over
and over.

1040
00:52:59,760 --> 00:53:01,360
Throw the stuff down, throw the
script down.

1041
00:53:01,360 --> 00:53:05,040
Talk and just talk it and talk
it and talk it and talk it and

1042
00:53:05,040 --> 00:53:07,520
understand it and then
understand the crowd and then

1043
00:53:07,640 --> 00:53:09,720
think about what your nuances
and how you would move your

1044
00:53:09,720 --> 00:53:12,000
hands and who do you look, where
do you look?

1045
00:53:12,240 --> 00:53:16,400
Stop, pause, take a breath.
Be human.

1046
00:53:16,400 --> 00:53:17,560
That's the hardest part of
staying.

1047
00:53:17,560 --> 00:53:23,400
Around now, yeah, because.
Done Now.

1048
00:53:23,680 --> 00:53:25,000
It's how you do it.
You have to go.

1049
00:53:25,000 --> 00:53:30,400
Hi, my name's Phil Brown.
Great to see you here, local

1050
00:53:30,400 --> 00:53:32,720
weirdo.
And you know, I'm a local.

1051
00:53:32,720 --> 00:53:36,280
Weirdo, I noticed, and I would
always do this in all my

1052
00:53:36,280 --> 00:53:38,680
speeches as I would read the
local newspaper because there's

1053
00:53:38,680 --> 00:53:41,320
always a headline, a headline
story that people be talking

1054
00:53:41,320 --> 00:53:43,200
about and you make a joke about
it.

1055
00:53:43,320 --> 00:53:47,040
Something as long as it's not
somebody being killed, I don't

1056
00:53:47,040 --> 00:53:49,440
do those Well.
They found their body that.

1057
00:53:49,960 --> 00:53:57,080
'D be a bad wasn't in my room.
And on that note, we'll try to

1058
00:53:57,080 --> 00:53:59,240
get off the air before he pisses
everybody off.

1059
00:53:59,760 --> 00:54:01,000
Right, All right, Bye.
Bye.

1060
00:54:01,760 --> 00:54:02,480
Party on bye.