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Nov. 14, 2025

Episode 123: Bucket list

Episode 123: Bucket list
Episode 123: Bucket list
A Record of My Father
Episode 123: Bucket list

We talk about our bucket list's

0:09 Welcome back to episode another episode of Record My Father. Here we go. Here we go. We're doing bucket list. What's left on my bucket list? Last two continents, Africa and Australia, I got to do that. I got to do that. I don't really need to go to Iceland. I went to Iceland recently by accident. Somebody died in my air. It's not a continent. We. Land there, they took the body off. It's a state. What? Iceland's not a continent. No, no, no, no country. We're talking about bucket list though, right? I don't really need to go. I want to do the two continents. I don't need to go to Iceland. Can I step back and say developing a bucket list? Maybe you want. That's what I'm doing right now. No, you're not.

0:51 I'm not doing it that way. Doing it wrong. That's what I say. You're doing it wrong. Yeah, no. But yeah, they pulled the guy. You remember. That what when I flew backwards across the world to go to Mongolia the first time and a guy died on my airplane. We landed in Reykjavik and everybody was like, where are we? I said. We're in Iceland. You're a bad. Person and they took him off the plane. This isn't even a joke. You know where I want to go? Yellowknife. Yeah, I. Do I I wanted to do that too. That was on that that we actually had looked at the trips to book and that was cool. There was another one that's that's one way to get pretty close to the North Pole.

1:32 Another is to go of weird places is through Newark. That takes you up to up to Iceland, not ice the green one. And in Greenland you, you sail, you, you ship, you do a ship tour out into the sound, which takes you into the Arctic Circle. That's, you know, the, the Yellowknife is in the circle and that's by plane. That is when we looked at it, it was like 20 hours to get there. When you do it my way, which is quicker, It's, it's a lot easier. It's like go to Newark and then it's like Greenland's like 4 hours due N from Newark, but you got to book these weird things. When we, when we talk about the bucket list, I know we jumped down and people will say, what do you mean bucket list such I, I think most people understand what we're talking about. These are things that you want to do you. You have goals or experiences.

2:27 You know you, you want to you. You know all the weird stuff from when you want to have a threesome to you want to own a puppy dog, you want to ride a horse. Run a marathon and do an Iron Man, but I don't know if that is. That's really dependent though, on if I ever start running again. You know? I don't know. I keep telling myself, you know what? Start again. Never really happens, but we'll see 'cause that's kind of what happens when you turn. You get in your late 20s and what do people do? But they do activities like marathons to make it seem like they have a personality. Physical, physical activities, that's what a lot of people have when they look. I mean, the weird thing is, is for me, and since this is about, you know, me and us, when I think about this, it's like my bucket list was never things that I would do physically other than I've always wanted to climb Kilimanjaro.

3:23 I always want to climb. I, I, I wanted to walk the Inca trail. After that, I wanted to climb Mount Fuji. I want to climb the, the mountain in lower 48. I actually want to climb taller ones. But I'm, I'm, I'm very aware of what kind of physique I have and the ability and tenacity I have when it comes to, you know, going up mountains. I'm never going to do Everest. I'm not going to do the Everest Space Camp. I'm not going to, I'm not going to do all those tall things. I'm not going to do El Capitan. I'm not. Ain't no way. I'm scared of heights. We did the, the Achilles. What the hell was it? You know what I want to do is the what's the one in Ecuador? Santa Maria.

4:07 No, that's Guatemala. OK, Ecuador. Ecuador has a mountain. Yeah, they do. And it looks like Cool Mountain, really. But yeah, not Eduardo. Is it hard? Harless was talking about wanting to do it years ago, and I'd be telling you I can't remember what it's called though. But yeah, I know the altitude's pretty high on that. But I don't know if I want to do altitude anymore. I don't know if I. Want to? Well, well, it's not going to be that high. I don't like. That's the thing you got. There's the Chimboro, the Corzone, the Vulcan, the Vulcan Asana, the Corzone, the Kamampi, the Chimborazo, the Volcano Tour, And there's the Quilotea Lake. The 15 Best mountains Ecuador Mount Chimborazo. Cotopaxi, there we go.

5:01 Oh, the Hell's that? Cotopaxi is 19,347 feet, the world's highest active volcano. No, no. How? How tall is it? 19,347 feet. That seems really weird. Yeah, go back. It seems taller than. Wow, that's gorgeous. Oh, looks like Patagonia. But yeah, do a do that. A marathon. Yeah, it's a volcano. Do read more books. I've been reading a lot this year. That's. Crazy we could do that.

5:44 You want to do that? Yeah. Let's do that, he said. He'd come with us, too. Who, Carlos. Is he going to carry me? Yeah, he's Jack. We can, we can have you in the background going carry B, carry B. Carry B, We'll bring it up. See, Santa Maria was one of the active volcanoes at the time. I don't know. I have to let me research that a little more before we put it on the list. Yeah, cut a pack suit. I've been. I've been thinking about that for years. Physically I may not be able to do it and. So 19 thousands. There are people in full jumpsuits up there. Snow jumpsuit Cold. Yeah. 'Cause I mean. Snow up there, even that's.

6:25 What 20,000 what is what was like 21 or 2221 thousand was Kilimanjaro and it was snow Fuji. I don't know, there was like 12 or 13. You know, same thing as like the Inca trail when you go over the mountains there, they they're really not that high. They're, they're, you know, they're like the fourteeners out in the Midwest. Next documentary shooting in Tajikistan. I want to do that. But you want to shoot a so to me, it's you have a much different bucket list than me. Me, I had a list of places. I just when I thought, when I think. Activities. You don't have any activities you want. To do well, I mean, and I climb this mountain, climb this mountain.

7:07 But that's not that's one, I guess it's walking, I guess. Yeah, yeah. That's it. I was just like. You don't, OK, You don't have like run a marathon or you don't want to do that, though, do. You. No, no, I never did. I mean, everything I wanted to do when it comes to that is this. Like I remember when I first started doing running and all you got to do is you really want to get in great physical shape, have a woman break your heart. Works every time. I'd be down to walk a marathon. I don't know if I could run one. Santa Maria, Finish it. What's the? What's the? Just finish one in Spain that was not 20 mile. Oh oh you mean the the trail the the Santa Maria?

7:51 The Santa Maria is the volcano in Guatemala. Yeah, yeah, you're right. I'm talking about. The Camino del Santiago. Yeah, the El Camino thingy, yeah. Yeah, that's like 1000 miles. Yeah, but you don't have to do all that. You need part of it. You know what I mean? Yeah, I would. Just do the part where it goes to the ocean. Yeah. Yeah, that's what I would do. OK, I'd be down to do that. I have my bucket list. Do you have 1 cell? Printed. Oh yeah, we're. Opening it out right now. I'm curious. And this is the thing that I have won't stop that. I'm opening it. It starts adventures.

8:32 Alaska, Antarctica, Australia, Bali, Belgium, Bolivia. Salt Flats. You really want to go to. Bali, then Ora Circle. Iceland, Columbia, Copenhagen, Cuba, Dubrovnik in Croatia, Easter Island, Eastern Europe, Egypt, Fiji, Finland. Greenland. Gorillas in Africa, The Gozu Falls, Ireland, Java, Indonesia. Kentucky Derby. Again. That was with you. Kremlin, Moscow, Russia. Lake Jasper Lake Titicaca in Bolivia. Because I just like the name. Madagascar.

9:14 Maldives, Mongolia, Morocco, New Zealand, North Pole, The Norway Fjords. Panama, Pantanal, Pero Valley, Bhutan Hetra, Georgia, Portugal. Guitar Soccer. Rio de Janeiro, Scotland Again. I want to do it again. Singapore. Ski Japan. Dick, You didn't take Thailand, Utah, Moab Do the narrows. We didn't do the narrows. That's the thing I missed. I think that's more Zion, right? Yeah, but let's go back. It's so it's really going to be what I should do is just say, OK, add another, add another list. Zion, Zion Narrows. That's my list.

9:58 You know what I also want to do? I also want to, I want to make a pair of pants or a jacket. You know, I think that'd be pretty cool. Where would you do that? I I would love to do that. I. Mean you would do that? How? Like sew A sew a pair of pants or something. Oh no, I was thinking about bucket list. Yeah, well, no, it's it's it. Well, no, when you think about when you think about your bucket list, it's you want to do stuff that's gives you self reflection fulfillment. I mean, mine was I also have write a book. OK, and I've written 2 so I I feel happy that I've accomplished that task. I never.

10:39 Had write a book. Yeah, I never had to start a company on it, but after I had started a company, I said, wow, that was cool. And then I did it again. So that was something that it it, it developed on a bucket list. A lot of the things that I've done are more business focused and oriented because as you learn who you are, I think you're like, oh, I want to do that. Oh, I want to do that. And all of a sudden, the things that were the superficial quick things that you would have picked all of a sudden become, well, you know, I don't need to climb that mount. I'd, I'd rather read 100 books in the in 100 days.

11:22 I would rather, you know, do something like that. That's it would be increase my knowledge or I would rather serve 1000 meals to 100 to 1000 poor people. I would rather, you know, look at this, you know, something like that. Look at the Pharaoh Islands. You ever see that? Pharaoh Islands. Off the coast of the United Kingdom here also. I'm here right now. That just made my bucket list. That's great. I want to do the next two cons. Oh, that's yeah. Just click the top. You say Pharaoh Islands? Well, I would just say that they're all Portugal. Denmark.

12:07 Yeah. Pharaoh Islands guide. Yeah. I would do that. I'm trying to find these islands that somebody was talking about to me years ago that were like the Hawaii of Europe, and I can't remember what they were called, right? What? Were they called? I don't know. I don't know. Somebody said it's like the Hawaii of Europe and they talked to me about this years ago and I can't remember what they were called and that those would easily be on there. I thought they were the Faroe Islands. That's way too far north. Azores, oh Madeira, Portuguese Arcabello, the way of Europe is a nickname for Madeira, a Portuguese architebello due to the volcanic landscapes less tropical. That's 100% what it is, Madeira.

12:54 While Madeira is the common most common answer, the Azores and other pollution Portuguese art Chapel Lego is also sometimes given the nickname for its volcanic features, waterfalls and modern climate, as is Lanzer Rote in the Canary Islands for its surfing conditions. You ever go to Paraguay? I was close, I could see it, but I didn't actually go what. About Uruguay. Same thing. That's what happens if you go to Ergazu Falls. You could see them all, the whole the triad, the non extradited ones that's. Where, Oh, where? It's like that one state where it's five states or whatever.

13:36 Yeah, exactly. You ever been there? I've never been there. Where? The states where it's like you can a. God's and false. No, no in America. Oh yeah, there's a bunch of them. They happen all the time. Where you can like. It only happens in one place though. No, it doesn't. Tennessee, Tennessee, West Virginia, Virginia and Kentucky. Those four come together 4. Five state thing in America. Let's see. OK. That's what you Google five corners. The five state thing was commonly first to either the hypothetical five corners where five U.S. states meet a fictional location. Oh it's The Simpsons. Oh wow it never existed.

14:19 That's actually crazy that never existed. That's. Actually, so it's easy to go there. Wow, I totally thought that was the same. Wait, what is this? Oh, it's the four corners, not the five corners. That's so funny. So Madeira the Hawaii of Europe is is definitely 1 so. We're we're I. Want to go back to the Albuquerque Balloon Festival. I want to do that. You want to go back? Yeah. We could do that. Yeah, I'd love you. Know where I would like to go back to as you would go back to the Flory Dad. Happens every 10 years. It's a Tulip festival. Your mother and I went there in 19, either 19992000, something like that. We went there and we were two days late and all the tulips had died.

15:08 We went at the end. We did get stoned in Amsterdam, but that was kind of fun. But other than that, I mean, the trip was great. We drove over where we saw the Anne Frank Museum. That is amazing. Yeah. You go there. It's really strange. You, you write where everywhere in Amsterdam we rode bicycles. It's really cool. We ride down and and we're we're going in where you pay to go in, right? You look down the street and you see these people just crying on the side of the street. And it's like a group of like 8 or 10 people and they're crying and there's people coming out and everybody was just just devastated and you didn't know what it was.

15:49 And then you realize that you're going into one townhouse, and the townhouse that you're going into is Ian Frank's right at the. Oh yeah, you told the story before, Yeah. Oh my God, And then you go down and then you realize that after you see all the stuff that the family was captured and then gassed and all that and horrible and came out. That's what everybody's crying. I. Don't really know this story either because I didn't think it was her family, I thought she was being hidden there but then they found her or something. They found her in a family. She had a cousin, an uncle, a brother or something like that. There were five of them that this family was hiding, and they were hiding them behind false walls in the ceiling. They're hiding them in the ceiling. And they lived in the ceiling for like a couple years. And their only reason you know about it is because she wrote a book about it.

16:44 At least that's what you know. And that book then was found, the manuscript was found afterward and then it was published and it kind of brought the light what it was like. And, you know, pretty much how horrible the Nazis were. You know, it is, it is, you know, it's very Jewish centric, which I guess most of that was, you know, towards focused on just Jewish people. But you know. Did you ever hear about Harriet Jacobs? I remember that story. That was we. I took this English class at UVA and they talked about the best written works of all time that impacted history.

17:25 Harriet Jacobs was an escaped slave that lived underneath somebody's house for nine years in a cramped space to save her daughter. Crazy because her daughter was a baby. Crazy, crazy story. And nobody really talks about that. And that story is nothing but formulaic for the English language. I would say so in some of the most important written texts. Wow, slavery was good. Remember, that's what we keep hearing. You're like what? Yeah, no. I they're trying to change history to say that it was not a bad thing and you're like. Ike well, they're supporting an ex convict. It was never about that at all. It was never about anything other than racism.

18:07 That's what it was about. I mean, that's clearly for who they support and seeing that ICE agents are no longer just arresting people of color. It was never just about that, right? It was always about having the agenda of of white nationalism. That's what the agenda was always about. And people confuse it with Republicanism or being conservative. And it's not that. It's not that it's white nationalism. Are you are you going to a political on me? No, no, I'm just defining for what it is because people love to say that it's a hide underneath the guise, when in reality they should identify for what kind of they actually are what they actually are.

18:50 Which is. Yeah. I mean, the fact that we have, we have people with masks, it can stop. Say you're driving down the road, they can pull around your car. If they won't, they could stop and jump out with guns. They can drag a Cambria out of the car. Or you, they can throw you in the back of the car without giving you ID or without giving you an explanation or without giving you a warrant. Then you can disappear and then you or Cambria can then try to figure out how to find you 'cause there is no, there's no central easy way. You go to a website and you start hunting and you wait until you pop up on the website and then you find out where you are.

19:32 Well, it's like you do not get to meet. People it's it is the most. Horrible system it is. And it's like when did, when did, when did people lose due process? And you can, you can name the day, you know, yeah, it's, it's a sad thing. It's, it's bad. And everybody's like, wow. They they're more legal. Anyway, and he's like, no, they're shooting citizens shooting, shooting now. Well, they're. Arresting people that have their papers. Yeah, they're showing it to him in the past. Well, they got to. They got to. Get this was the whole thing about pro-life, right? And all those people. And I'm like, well, well, what was it about? Pro-life if you don't it. Was never, it was never about the baby. It was never about she has a baby in her stomach. It was about controlling women.

20:19 It's always been about that. And they hide underneath the guys that it's a baby and that is a lie. That is a lie and it's to control women, right? And they were never. And, and The funny thing is, is everybody talks about the sacred, the sacredness of life. And it's like, well all this and it's in the Bible and that and it's like, but no one ever mentioned this in 1972. The church never cared. They were. They were OK with abortion until they're early 7. So when they're born and then you don't want the only reason the lunch? What about that? So you don't want to take care of them after they're born? I don't understand that either. Very confused this. Is a ranting session, isn't it? Yeah, I don't know. I've been upset recently so I think this is a really nice.

21:01 I think we're, yeah, we're getting a lot of rants out there. I mean, I was looking at this and I was saying OK. Well, I want to make a jacket. That's that's on. That's on a goal. What's another goal? I want to circumnavigate the world. That'd be cool, but I don't want to do it myself. I don't want to do. It What about hiking ninja trail? I'd rather do Patagonia. I'd rather do that. You could do both. See the Northern Lights from a glass igloo. We we went, went in the glass. Igloo or ice? Igloo. No, no. We can't see them from Ice Igloo because you can't see through. Why can't you see? They have they have like glass houses and we went to Finland north and we missed them very, very quick. Sleep in a bubble hotel or an under an underwater bungalow.

21:45 We slept above water but never under. Write and publish a book or memoir. Take a hot air balloon ride over Cappadocia. Didn't Turkey are to tank them in Mexico? If we went to Abercrombie and Fitch Balloon Festival, I would do that. I'd be down to do that. Attend a major cultural event, Oktoberfest, I've been to it. Mardi Gras I have not been to. It I've never done that. Went there and we drank like it was Mardi Gras, a Japanese tea ceremony. Never been to that. Learn a new language. Nope. Climb a mountain or run a marathon. Climb mountains. Mountains. So Run a Marathon is on there, yeah.

22:25 Volunteer for a humanitarian mission or start a local charity project? Well, I volunteered for a lot of different home humanitarian things. Here's one. Go scuba diving at the Great Barrier Reef or in bioluminescent waters. Remember, when we eat we're we're canoeing in the bioluminescence. I was not with you. You were there by yourself, OK? You were in Puerto Rico. I've never been to Puerto. I've never been to Puerto Rico. That's where we saw it. OK, I was trying to remember what it was. People keep. Trying to put that in my head and I I have not been to Puerto Rico. It's been me Take a gourmet cooking glass in a foreign company country and master signature disc. We.

23:07 Took Well, you were with us when we went to Sardinia, right? I mean Sicily. Yeah, I am remember. We went to cooking there. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I do. Yeah, we, we've, we've done cooking type things. That was really cool. Not really. I really like those. Do you remember? Any of the recipes offhand? No, it's not about. That I don't remember that at all. And seeing inside of their house and how they live and understanding that things are different. You know, I remember where the last one where we went down that way and we couldn't find it and we finally went up in their house. Oh my God, was that Palermo? Oh, that was, I thought that was Taramina the last.

23:50 Taramina, dark, scary, and they were the nicest people. Oh wait, no, the first one was definitely Palermo. That, that was too many tours. Oh my God, we did nine walking tours a day. It was just cruise to Antarctica or the Norwegian fjords. We didn't cruise. We flew through and then went through them. Explore the ancient ruins of Pompeii. I've done that, she have not. Done that. Yeah. Rome. Pompeii. Done that What? When did you do Pompeii? Rome. No, we did the Amalfi Coast. Your mother and I, we don't like you ride the Venice Simpione, that's the Orient Express train or another iconic railway. That's some I've always wanted to go. Darjeeling Unlimited.

24:33 Go. That's T Darjeeling Unlimited. What is that? That's a tramway railway in India. Oh I would do that. I would do anyone go go Rd. tripping on Route 66 or across the country? I've done Route 66. I've never done across the country. You've never driven across the country? No, really. Parts here and there swim with dolphins or elephants. In Thailand, I swim with dolphins, but that was in like, you know, SeaWorld or something. It was in one of those parks. Well, we did that in the Galapagos too. We swim with the seals. Yeah. Oh yeah, you're right. And the sort of hug one. Was so much fun. That was well, it's interesting too, cause seal on land does not like you. Seal on water likes you a lot.

25:18 Very strange, very, very strange. But. Take a helicopter tour over Victoria Falls or the Grand Canyon. Hearing that is really funny because everybody backed out of the helicopter tour. I said no man, I got to do it. It's a thick falls. It was amazing. It was amazing. If we go out back out to Grand Canyon, we would have to take a helicopter tour just to see the immense of it. Start a podcast or record a music album. I'm not doing a fucking album. That's not happening. Did you print out these? Well, did you? Just no. Give me 20 things to add to my bucket list. Here 20 inspiring things to add your bucket list. Oh, this isn't your bucket list? I thought you.

26:00 Wrote this? No, I thought you wrote this. This is from. This is from perplexity. That's what's so. Odd. So that's unfortunate, no? No, but it was how to develop your own bucket list. I thought it was your own bucket list. One of the things that I thought that was really cool is that I've never sat in on a Supreme Court, what do you call it, argument. Have you sat in on any court argument other than your own? No. Me either. So I have been applying recently and I just got wavered in and I might get in on one for December 3rd to go down and see an argument in front of our the Supreme Court.

26:45 I'm like, wow, that's kind of like one of those things that you know, just doesn't happen everyday. You know, what I'm thinking about recently is getting my MBA at Harvard. That's what I've been. Another, yeah. I've been thinking about that. Go there for summer school and get the Executive MBA which is. Well, I would do a real Graduate School. Project you do a real one you don't do effect. Yeah, Yeah, I would want to do that. I've been thinking about that because I think having a business business classes would make me one more confident. Oh yes, and because I'm more of a creative right now and I don't yeah, and that's great, but not it's not great. You're missing key standing. Exactly, exactly.

27:27 I was very lucky sharp at. The undergrad and and I'll let you go. I'm sorry. No, no, no, I'm done. I'm done. I was going to say that that I was very lucky that I had undergrad in business because it gave me this broad knowledge, a little bit about marketing, a little bit about sales, a little bit about everything. And then and so and, and I learned a lot because you don't realize that people think, oh, if I you know, if we got a great idea that it's a home run. And it's like then you, you learn very quickly that everybody's got a lot. Of fucking great ideas. Execution, yeah. That's. Execution. And then you realize how hard it is for me to get somebody else to do something for me for a price that is less than it cost me to do it myself.

28:16 OK. And then whatever I get them to do it for, I need to be able to charge a little bit more for it because that's how I make a profit. And if I can't do that, I shouldn't be in business. And that's the reason that people say, hey, we don't want to raise the minimum wage. And it's like, if you cannot pay someone 10, fifteen, $20.00 an hour to come work at your place, then then people shouldn't be eating at your place. Your food's not that good. And you know, the the location's not that great. Now ambiance is just not worth, you know, $100 for dinner. No, that's a lot of places now. It's crazy. Yeah, yeah. Well, they're all. There's an argument about the low wages and stuff. Technically, the market should pick it up to a certain degree. Isn't.

29:00 That what happens with universal 15 whatever 50 an hour that it would just result in inflation. Wouldn't corporations just increase their prices more so than they already are? No, it it, The thing is, is it doesn't work that way. It it. You would think that logically it would, but if that's true then Denmark would have their their their happy meal would be 100. Dollars. But wouldn't you think that those are price controlled more so than the American government or the American capital? Well, you. Can't. You can't just put in one equation or one. Yeah, I mean, you got, you got, you got 100 different variables and you're going to screw with one and expect that not to have some bad things.

29:47 Of course it's going to have bad things. Of course it is. You're going to have to figure out ways to trick the other bad things to make it better. If you truly believe that people should be able to work one job and work 40-50 hours a week and be able to support themselves, then shut the fuck up and make it make it happen, right? Yeah. I mean, isn't that, you know, and whether that job happens to be pressing the cash register at McDonald's or Walmart or restocking the shelves in Walmart or designing aerospace engines, whatever it is, whatever it is, picking coffee beans, picking heads of lettuce in a so they. Actually do.

30:31 Shouldn't they be temporary price freezes on specific basic food items to combat inflation? So they do. Actually they do. They do. Everybody does. There's all those things. We do the same thing. We do it with price supports though. We don't have price freezes, do we? Well, I don't know how the what's the difference between if you stop one from from if you make one a certain minimum it more expensive than other things. That means that people won't buy other things, right? Yeah. If you think about freeze and and support, you know you can't go up and there's other there's that you can't go down.

31:13 So it's just, it's essentially one. It's a different way to get to the same place most of the time. Most of the time it's just all in how you look at it. If I told you that we have three, we have two movie theaters in town and one of them costs the minimum we can charge going in there is $50 and then the other one has no minimum and they're right now charging 20. Where you going to go? 20. Right now if I go and that was that's where the price support. Now I said with two movie theaters in town, we have one that is not a price support, but a what's the other one freeze, price freeze at $20.

31:57 And the other one has unlimited pricing. And their idea of doing pricing is their pricing at 1950. You're going to go to same theater. Same. No, I mean, it's, it's, you can, you can, you can cut and slice it so many different ways because, and that's a very, very, very simplistic. It does not cover all the things. It's not, it's, I have to give a moniker about how, how much more technical economics is in that and how that doesn't measure all the variables go in. It doesn't, you know, there's a, there's a million different things that impact it that you can't do in a, in a 2 minute podcast that says it, this is the way it is 'cause it isn't what I mean.

32:41 I mean, but you have to have what you have to have is you have to have a mission and a desire to do something. And if the desire is to put all people in houses or old people don't get homeless, you know, you have a goal. And then you do something and you build, you build 1000 houses and sell them for a nickel. And then all of a sudden Harry Johnson comes in and fucking buys 900 of them and rapes old people and sells them. And then everybody goes, let's see, it doesn't, you know. And then you're like, but we could need to get back to the mission of hate helping old people. And it's the same thing I see right now with the healthcare. Well, I mean, I understand the mission, but that requires moral ethics, which I think no one.

33:34 I think that everybody believes that they have moral ethics. I don't think that when I talk to people on the right hand. Side I think people are inherently evil as fuck. I don't know. I don't think that there are good people in this world majoritively. No, I don't believe that. I don't believe that people are majoritively good. That what's his name died for our sins, and that we need to be. We need to be better and nicer to people. Those are all the same people that spit on minorities are all the people that say pretty much worship Jesus. Like I don't understand that. Yeah, we're not the poorest. The poorest generally. There's a lot of poor people that but don't hate the minorities because the minorities are right next to them. The one thing that they're always doing is they're it gives it gives you an opportunity to see somebody that's a little bit worse off than you. Well, Lyndon Johnson described it perfectly and that if you want to distract the lower class and take a dime out of their pocket, you put a black man in front of them. And he said that, and he was the president. Yes.

34:37 So. And and people act like, oh, my gosh, it's all of these. I'm like, no, this has been a calculated thing since before he was president. I mean, my gosh. Yeah. So, well, you know what's even better is if you use a black man to put the black man in there. Exactly. And then that's where we're at today. And I don't know, people are so uneducated that they can't see that the demon in front of them is a manufactured identity from the government. I don't know. I can't unable to see that and it's embarrassing. I get worried when people think it's uneducated. I think it's you. You support my, what do you call it, my hatred. In a lot of ways, you help me not like people that I don't like.

35:27 You support my view of the world. Well, it's also kind of a dual issue. It's much more compounded in that like sometimes. We've not done this before. We don't do this. We don't, we don't go into this muck and talk about this stuff. This is funny. I like. This, well, I don't know. We've been afraid of something ever since McCarthyism and therefore and what have we done but become afraid of things and then want to kill them, right. So I don't know, it gets kind of always been rooted in government and judicious activity. But but I will say that it is also in a multi generational issue that racism. Yeah, for sure. Well, they've been really, really good at I, you know, I still don't know who Millennials, Millennials, Shorty people, Gen.

36:09 ZS, Gen. XS, Gen. QS, and all these other motherfuckers are and how everybody distinguishes what the difference. I'm supposed to hate you because you're, and you're just like, why do you? Why do you? And that is, that's just marketing, shoving something saying we're going to sell to this case. And it's like I don't really care what they think and I don't really care where they want to put me. I don't want to be in in an old person class even if 95% of the people in my class don't want to help people, I don't I. Never understood that. If you hated somebody so much, why would you give them your most valuable asset, which is your time and your energy? I don't understand that.

36:50 I don't. Get it? Because, and I can tell you because I'm one of those, because you believe that by them speaking, other people are reading it and believing it. But it's lies. And that's, that's the thing that draws you. So what you really got to do and the cool thing to do is to go on a social media account and just tell a lie. Any lie you want doesn't really matter, but it has to be an obvious lie. And if it's an obvious lie that you put out on a Facebook or on a on LinkedIn or whatever, everybody will come around or you touch certain golden calves that you're not allowed to insult or say bad things about. You know what? I've done this. More and more is the American dream has evolved into this hyper realistic example where it's you make it and you have the picket fence and the dog, but then you do the final thing, which is you pull the ladder up behind you and that's really what. See, that's what I hate.

37:49 I don't think that's fair. I think that's. Really, what seems to be the most American thing to do is to pull the ladder up behind you. And it's, it's really sad. I don't think that. I don't think that. I would like to think that I don't do that. I don't think you do. I don't think you. Do I would I would like to think that that the most I think that there are. Very few examples that don't, I would say so very few. I remember when we sold our company and we were all getting big pots of money. There's only three of us and we had set these plans up for a bunch of people and there were a bunch of other people that had been there for a long time, but they were going to get a much smaller portion because of their position, because options were based on position, not on tenure.

38:38 So we decided to do a tenure thing and which is how long you been in the company? And all the people that had started the company that didn't rise up, there were like secretaries and stuff. They got house buying money and or you know, so for them it really changed them. And when we did that, the company that bought us was like, we've done hundreds of acquisitions and we've never seen that. And we talked to the banker and the banker said, no, no one does that. And then we talked to the council. I said, no, we've never come across a deal or anybody actually fucking shared. And we're like, but so someone gets a check for $100 million and he's been working his whole life and he's 55 or 60 and he doesn't share really.

39:24 No, they gave him options and I'm like, yeah, but that's not like I'm going to give you. I'm going to give you Zach, you've been working for me for 20 years. I'm going to give you 100 grand and I'm going to walk away with 100 million. How could I do that? How could anybody do that? That to me is the most selfish fuck in the world. That's what that's what jobs did jobs, you know he was that way, you know, just horrible. But that to what this is we are we are getting into the more the and they righted it and the idea that people do the right thing. It's it's I think there's a lot of people who do the right thing. And I'd like to believe that there are you and I know a lot of other people I know don't believe that that many people do it.

40:06 I don't think really anybody does. That's just my belief. Yeah, I believe what Thomas Hobbes believes and that the people are inherently evil. And I also believe that we are in the Buddhist period of the Kali Yuga that started in 331 hundred BCE, and that humanity in itself is a giant, elongated period of moral and ethical diminishment. Yeah, that's what I believe. Oh wow. Mm. Hmm, negative there. I mean, it's just the truth. Negative Nelly man. I mean, it is for most people. We can walk past people that are screaming at the sky and that that man, that down there rolling around covered in rags with somebody's son at some point and then we can walk past that is prime example that the Kali yuca is where we're living right now. Yeah.

41:01 But I think that's always been there. The whole period of humanity is the Calihuga, though, that's the thing, yeah. Yeah, I'm going to say that. I'm going to say that there's always been people in rags on the sideline. There's always been people that we've needed to take care of. And percentage wise, as the population gets better, there's always going to be a piece of population when you take care of. They do not understand that they do not fit. I've seen this and over and over and over and it's just, sorry, we're just kind of have to take care of 1 to 3 or 4% of the population. And people are always going to bitch about that, but they're not going to point up to the top and say the top 1% are taking or 3% are taking, you know, 80% of all the resources and contributing only 60% of all the wealth and still going on there. Blamed for not recycling because apparently that affects the environment more than the coal scrubbers that go continuously unmonitored.

42:01 Yeah, I don't know. But at the same time, bucket list. Bucket list. I want to get to episode 200 on this. I want to do that. Yeah. Oh, that's definitely but. That's I know. I really. I really. Enjoy this. I think that this is it's kind of expanded the way I think about things and also it's make me look at different things, look at things differently. And now I'm actually, you know, doing these these with per perplexity. If I if I put. With AI, which I don't understand and that kind of is. What gives me a start? Gives. Me a start. I have an Idi punch down the ID and I throw it up there and I say, OK, does that make sense? And then I pull out little pieces of what makes sense to me 'cause then they drive what you think and what you believe to a certain degree. You, you have to check it.

42:52 You have to, if you're going to go deep on something, don't use it. If you use it, it's going to, it's going to tilt you in a direction that it's not correct. At least that's what I found in and. I've seen people use their product development and I've seen just major issues. Well, I'll say what? The thinking because it doesn't it it's it's. It's calculating from known data, which is not always accurate. I'll say what Guillermo del Toro said. No, no, sorry. Vince Gilligan, A Breaking Bad and he says. I see it as the world's greatest plagiarism tool ever made and I completely agree with. That. And I will never use it. I will never use it because it makes me feel ill. Yeah.

43:33 And I think that. Also that we're. Automating. We're automating the art. We're automating the art so that we can work in the factories, but we now we can't even work in the factories because those are being automated as well. There's going to be no place left for us and that's going to be our own fault and due to capitalistic entities. So I mean, what are you going? To do well, we should do an episode on. One of the things I had is about apps that track US and what they're doing with the data. Because that's what this is. When you think about it, this is this is the this is the repercussion of your giant and your Safeway and your Progressive Insurance where they put the little thing inside your car and figure out everywhere you're going.

44:21 The OnStar that they cut on that tells you everywhere you Zac Brown drives the giant food. When I go there, every time I buy my X LAX or whatever, you know, my Wiener pills or whatever the hell, I buy that when I do that, they, they, everybody knows this, this arrhythmic, this, this thing knows. And then it decides what it can sell me. And now other people are saying, well, we can decide what he needs to buy. Well, we can actually, we can build a world for him. And that's what this is the next step. The next step is to build a world for me out of everything that I've looked at and everything that I like and also to give me controversy to keep going into the world.

45:03 Because if there's not controversy, I'm not there, right? Life is conflict, kind of different. Very different. No, I agree. What do we have for time on this? I know it's broken. Up, I think. Four different parts. Yeah, we're almost, we're, we're, we're over 50. So I think, I think we run out here, but we got it. We got to come back and talk about artificial intelligence and what apps are tracking. I I really like that. On that, that's a good idea. I like that. And as far as bucket lists, what? What's the next one that you're going to do? The next one that I'm going to do, I mean, make my first feature film, but that's kind of career that doesn't really. Count. No, it does. It absolutely does. Yeah, I think it counts. If that's one that you want to do, that's it.

45:44 I think my next one is going to be I'm going to go to Jordan, OK, Probably going to go to Jordan in March or April. It's it's pretty close to being nailed down. That's my next one. And I will see Petra and I will I will be in the corner there. That was on my goal to do. Oh geez. And I'll and I'll break off a an ancient King's nose and bring it home. Flagged. Yeah, that's the American. World all right, we'll talk to you later as always, check out the website. Some of these I've noticed aren't uploading properly. I don't know why, but they're uploading only to Spotify and not on the website, which has the SSRII or S S feed or whatever RSS feed.

46:26 There we go. But as people have been notifying me about these issues, I really need to update the YouTube. We're about all 40 episodes behind all the YouTube. All right, got it. See you guys later. Bye.