Episode 152: Coffee

Speaker 0 (0:10): Welcome back to Record of My Father. Today, we're gonna be talking about coffee. I remember today, I drank an iced Americano. Iced Americano has been my drink of choice. I think it's a shot or two shots of espresso depending on what size you get over ice water because during World War two, you had people that didn't have drip coffee makers in Europe and so they drank espresso with water.

Speaker 0 (0:34): Hence, the Americano, those were the GIs that were drinking those in Europe. Yeah. Pretty interesting, isn't that? A little history about the coffee. What?

Unknown Speaker (0:44): The Americana? Yeah. Well, they just invented that kind.

Unknown Speaker (0:47): No. No. I'm saying

Unknown Speaker (0:48): The drink.

Unknown Speaker (0:48): One you bought today. What it cost?

Speaker 0 (0:51): $4, $5, something like that.

Unknown Speaker (0:54): So you you don't know?

Unknown Speaker (0:56): Nope. Couldn't tell you. Wow.

Speaker 1 (0:58): Yeah. I don't know. I don't know either. I don't know either what I pay when I look at coffee stuff like that. I know that when I think about my years of drinking coffee, I used to drink, when I started out, was Maxwell House.

Speaker 1 (1:13): That's what my mother drank. That's what the father drank, and you take little scoops out. And she had, she didn't have a drip coffee maker. She had one of those percolators. And you would you would make it in the you you put it into, the little basket.

Speaker 1 (1:26): The basket goes down, and the and the coffee runs, circulates through it until it's done.

Unknown Speaker (1:31): It's like the espresso maker used to have. Yeah. The best I

Speaker 1 (1:33): Well, espresso doesn't run it through multiple times.

Unknown Speaker (1:36): No. Just, it comes out like a fountain in the top. Yeah. Yeah. Because you load it in

Speaker 1 (1:41): the bottom. But the percolator runs it through multiple times, and it just it's a very deep, rich cup of coffee provided you don't put too much in. I mean, it's all it's nuanced. And it was Maxwell House. It was the ground.

Speaker 1 (1:53): It was, you know, made. It was there there was no selectivity of beans and all that kind of stuff like that. I went to college, and I drank coffee all the time, but I didn't have the time to make a percolator or make a pot because I wouldn't drink a pot. I would drink cups. So I got into Folgers and did the stir folders, and I got the little Folgers crystals, and that surfaced me for years at college.

Unknown Speaker (2:17): I went to how long did you go to college? Nineteen years, I think?

Speaker 0 (2:20): Back in 1862. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (2:21): Yeah. But I went for nineteen years straight. See?

Unknown Speaker (2:23): So Yeah.

Speaker 1 (2:24): Only part time. Anyway But you're 23 years old all now. The way through and even into when I when I, got my first department, I remember it was Folgers. It was always Folgers because it was better than any instant coffee that I could find and economical. You know, I mean, recently, I've I've we've come across one that we found really, really good.

Unknown Speaker (2:46): Mhmm.

Speaker 1 (2:46): It's one of those little squirts that the what the hell is it? Everybody hates them. Starbucks. You know, the little packets?

Unknown Speaker (2:56): No. The instant. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (2:58): Yeah. Now those are amazing. They are amazing for a number of different reasons. They're really good cup of coffee, shockingly so if you have boiling hot water. Second thing that's really, really cool is they're in the most amazing coffee for camping.

Speaker 1 (3:12): I used to say, oh, bring a jar of Folgers, and it's like, you buy a little jar of Folgers, it, you know, two little jars cost the price of six large jars. It just the the cost

Speaker 0 (3:25): thing is funny is we drank Nescafe instant in Mongolia. The entire time was twenty five days of Nescafe instant. I got no caffeine.

Unknown Speaker (3:35): Nescafe. Nescafe. Nescafe.

Speaker 0 (3:39): No caffeine buzz. No caffeine buzz at all. I feel like it it must have been decaf or something, but I just felt nothing the whole time. Really? Because it was difficult because I was drinking

Unknown Speaker (3:49): nothing. Like nothing. Day.

Unknown Speaker (3:51): Because I was drinking in morning. I drink it a little

Unknown Speaker (3:52): That's it. You could drink it

Unknown Speaker (3:53): all night.

Speaker 1 (3:54): That's that's what I liked about it. I remember, though, okay. After college I mean, work construction. Construction was always we would go in the morning and we go to seven Eleven, and it was two sixteen ounces. Because 16 ounces is the biggest cup they had in 1980.

Speaker 1 (4:12): That was a grande, but it wasn't called a grande. It was called a fucking large. You know? There wasn't even extra. There's a small, medium, large.

Speaker 1 (4:21): Large was 16 ounces. Now, you know, and now they've gotten into all these different weird words for colossal and humongous and, hey. I want a dump truck, you know, and whatever the hell else you call a cup of coffee. But I got a large and I get 16 ounces and then I started to realize that 16 ounces is not enough to really give me a jolt. Shocker.

Speaker 1 (4:41): So I took 32 ounces of coffee, I get two. Two times 16 is 32, just for your math wizards out there just to I looked that up too. So it's verified. Anyway, that was, I mean, that was that was all through construction. And, man, you have two cups of seven Eleven coffee?

Speaker 1 (5:03): Woah. And you're drinking it fast, and it's and it's it's scalding. It is it's so hot. It's not as hot as McDonald's. I mean, it wouldn't burn your crotch off, but it it it's pretty hot.

Unknown Speaker (5:17): Well, you think about

Unknown Speaker (5:18): the the horror McDonald's coffee's too hot. Let's just wait. It is. It's still too hot too even after the lawsuit in the early two thousands or the nineties or whenever it was.

Unknown Speaker (5:27): Yeah. That was very sad. It was in the nineties. That was very sad that that the I mean, do you know the story behind the whole lawsuit?

Speaker 0 (5:33): Was the old woman that dropped a hot cup of coffee cup of coffee.

Speaker 1 (5:37): She used get the cup of coffee, and she put it in her in her between her legs. That's crazy. And she dropped it over, it literally burned the skin off of her inner thighs. And, McDonald's instead and she said, my health insurance won't pay for it. Okay, wonderful health insurance here in America.

Speaker 1 (5:58): Anyway, so she went to them and said, could you please cover the bill? She Because had to have skin grafting. That's how bad

Unknown Speaker (6:06): it was. That's insane. I believe that too because it's hot.

Speaker 1 (6:08): And it was like and and it was thousands of dollars. You know what they said?

Unknown Speaker (6:14): Go on.

Unknown Speaker (6:15): Fuck off. That's what they did. And then they made a meme about it and said, old lady comes after us. No. They didn't.

Speaker 1 (6:21): They left it alone. They just yelled at her and said no. So she's like, well, what am I gonna do? I mean, said she's on a fixed income, Social Security. She said her seventies.

Unknown Speaker (6:30): I mean, don't know. That old. That's funny. People. Well, let's go back.

Unknown Speaker (6:35): No. No. That's very interesting.

Speaker 1 (6:37): Yeah. I mean, it's a really great case when it comes to coffee, and it shows you how they said that, oh, it's this horrible woman that sued us for $17,000,000, and that's not what happened.

Speaker 0 (6:49): Well, you know what's interesting? If we're talking about corporate coffee here. You know what? I think it was Nescafe did or Nestle did in Asia is that they started running ads with a younger generation kind of demographic drinking coffee. So it looked like

Speaker 1 (7:05): '94. Kids. It looked

Speaker 0 (7:07): like for kids, hey, older, mature people drink coffee. They don't drink tea because Japan is a tea drinking company or not company, country. And so that's what they had going on. And now you have coffee all over Japan and also Korea for that reason. It's kind of crazy.

Speaker 0 (7:25): When I went to Korea, they drink only two different kinds of drinks. Cold brew. They drink cold brew or an iced Americano black or they drink a matcha. They don't drink anything else from what I saw. Everybody at lunchtime on the street had iced Americano, cold brew, or matcha.

Speaker 0 (7:41): Only three drinks. Wow. Very interesting.

Speaker 1 (7:43): I'm not a cold brew person.

Unknown Speaker (7:45): It's a it's a lot of caffeine.

Speaker 1 (7:46): Okay. So here's the deal. It happened in '94. Now this is this is what happened. The the lie back is her name.

Speaker 1 (7:54): How old was she? I don't see an age, but she was sitting in the passenger seat of a parked car when she placed the cup between her knees and attempted to remove the lid between her knees. Oh. To remove the lid. Now she spilled it.

Speaker 1 (8:15): The injuries, she suffered third degree burns on sixteen percent of her body. Woah. She was required to go to the hospitalization, skin grafts, extensive whirlpool treatments, everything. Okay? The temperature they were serving coffee at was between a 180 and a 190 degrees.

Speaker 1 (8:39): Severe burn incurs in two to seven seconds by from contacting the skin. Industries industry standards was, a 135 to four a 140 degrees. So they were doing it one third higher than everybody else in the world. They had received 700 previous complaints. This was not the first time that for people that burned over the time.

Speaker 1 (9:03): She from her coffee, they were Liebeck said she wanted $20 to cover medical expenses. $20. And they were like, nope. It's off. And so the jury found McDonald's 80% at fault and Liebeck 20% at fault.

Speaker 1 (9:19): They are ordered 200,000 in compensatory damages. They reduced to $1.60 and then 2.7 in punitive damages. The judge reduced the punitive of board to $4.80, and the two parties eventually reached a confidential save more money from McDonald's. But that's the whole 17,000,000 and all that because that that that's not true. This is the the factual side of it.

Speaker 1 (9:43): It's like, it's really interesting that that because they were they made a big deal out of making her stupid, which you would think, like, as a company to make somebody that you're talking to, wow. Sad. Very sad. Very sad. Know?

Speaker 1 (10:01): And you can say, yeah. I understand that you shouldn't you shouldn't open up coffee between your knees.

Speaker 0 (10:07): Why was she in the passenger seat so she wasn't driving?

Speaker 1 (10:10): No. That she probably I I would assume that the person that was driving handed her the cup. She takes the cup. She puts it in her knees, and she tries to take the cough up because she wants to pour cream in it. Like, everybody like everybody does.

Speaker 1 (10:23): But I would never do it in my knees. I set it on the floor and pop it or I set it in the cubby there and pop it. That's why there's always coffee in our little cup holders because it'll burn the shit out of you. You

Speaker 0 (10:35): know? It's funny too because you'd never used a travel mug. You don't like using travel mugs.

Unknown Speaker (10:40): No. Just use the Regular mug. But our coffee

Unknown Speaker (10:43): is not

Speaker 1 (10:43): 200 freaking degrees.

Unknown Speaker (10:45): That is true.

Unknown Speaker (10:46): You know? Also do that. I don't use

Speaker 0 (10:48): travel mug. I don't do it. Why do why do you I feel like men specifically don't use travel mugs.

Unknown Speaker (10:55): Do you think it's because we have big mouths?

Speaker 0 (10:57): I think it's because it keeps the coffee too hot and it can't ventilate it. That's why I

Speaker 1 (11:01): do. I like my coffee to cool to a temperature that I can guzzle.

Speaker 0 (11:05): Because the thermos, ma'am, we might just come upon a great invention here. It's a breathable travel mug that can actually vent properly. Can you think of one that exists?

Unknown Speaker (11:15): No. There we go. Alright.

Speaker 0 (11:17): So record of my father, breathablemug.com. That'll be up on the Shopify by the end of this episode. The the

Speaker 1 (11:25): And you know what's gonna be? It's gonna be a paper cup and a lid with holes in it. For $9.95.

Unknown Speaker (11:33): $10.95.

Unknown Speaker (11:33): What do think?

Unknown Speaker (11:34): $10.95. That's what it $10.95.

Unknown Speaker (11:36): $10.95. $10.95.

Unknown Speaker (11:37): I like that idea.

Speaker 1 (11:38): No. No. Well, $10.95. Retail $15.95, one third off.

Speaker 0 (11:45): But if you buy 20, you get 25¢ off the order, and you get free shipping.

Unknown Speaker (11:51): You're you're a greedy bastard. What it cost to produce it? 8¢. What do you want for it? $3,000.

Unknown Speaker (11:58): But it's also gonna be you're get none. I I won't kill your children.

Unknown Speaker (12:02): It's gonna be American made. It's gonna be American made.

Speaker 1 (12:05): American made. Yeah. The American made is gonna be us making the money buying the product from China.

Unknown Speaker (12:13): Oh, that's crazy.

Unknown Speaker (12:14): We've heard that. That's like Apple's American made. Really? 60,000,000,000 a year. Oh my gosh.

Unknown Speaker (12:21): That's crazy. They don't say that they're American made, do they?

Unknown Speaker (12:24): No. I don't know how they saying like,

Unknown Speaker (12:26): how could you ever claim that?

Speaker 1 (12:27): Well, the weird thing is that you see a lot of these companies that produce a little portion of it in America so they can No. I don't know I don't know what proportion is. It's you know, they'll go by they'll go by say, for instance, they have screws that they put in it, and they'll they'll allocate more money to the screws than anything else on the phone. Mhmm. And then they'll say that that but I I I would consider that fraud, but that's just me.

Speaker 1 (12:53): Anyway, we talked about the McDonald's coffee case. After what was it? I remember when we started the first business, that's when I really amped on coffee. No. At college, I amped on it.

Speaker 1 (13:08): We didn't but we didn't have a pot. We always did cups, so I didn't really get a chance to amp on it. When I started the business with Richard well, when we when Richard and I started the business, it wasn't me or him. It was us. Anyway, we rented a 10 by 10 room, and we had a, office, and it was executive quarters.

Speaker 1 (13:27): So it was like a it's like a WeWorks, but, it was a ready made office, 10 by 10. We put two desks in there. We had file cabinets, floor, ceiling on each side, and we had a Xerox fifty five fifty copier, and we had a coffee pot, a 12 cup coffee pot. And it was on my desk, and I would come in in the morning. And I did early shift.

Speaker 1 (13:50): He did late shift. I did 06:30 to, like, 04:30 or something, and he did 09:30 to 07:30. It's something I I don't remember the exact hours, but it's it's close like that. Or seven. I think I did seven to four, and he did ten to three whatever.

Speaker 1 (14:06): I would make a pot of coffee. And it'd be on my desk, and I'd be drinking coffee, and I'd filling out the registrations and hoping the phone would ring that day. And that which is the hardest thing in the world when you start a business and you're, you're dependent upon revenue by the phone ringing and the phone doesn't ring. That is a you question your life then, especially when you're on the 9th Floor of a building. Anyway, that has concrete that you could jump on, and you can walk out on the balcony too.

Speaker 1 (14:35): Little worry there. Anyway, I I I would drink the coffee just literally not thinking. And I would just drink cup and drink another cup. And I had my own coffee cup, which was brown stained on the inside and outside and and washed it every so often. And, I forgot what it was.

Speaker 1 (14:56): Oh, don't let the bastards get you down. My mother had given it to me. And Hey, man. I would drink.

Unknown Speaker (15:01): To that. That'd be a good T shirt.

Speaker 1 (15:04): Yeah. I love that. She had it. She went she she took it to her she used it at her work. And so I used it in my office, and I thought it was a really neat thing.

Speaker 1 (15:12): But I I would drink enough coffee until when he came in two hours later that he would pick up the pot and he would do this. Oh, you left me a whole cup. And I'd be like, making making noise and just really, really jumpy. I mean, just electric.

Speaker 0 (15:38): I'll be going espresso purist over the course of the last year, I think. I only drink espresso. I very rarely drink drip. And when I do drink, it's never drip now. It's Keurig.

Speaker 0 (15:48): It's Keurig. Isn't that interesting? There's enough Keurig cups to circle the world three times. But I've started just doing espresso because I got the espresso maker here.

Speaker 1 (15:57): Three years of that.

Unknown Speaker (15:58): That's nice.

Speaker 1 (15:59): Three years of that with dirty water dogs because I had hot dogs. It was you could get two hot dogs, a bag of chips, and a Coke for, I think, $3 or 2 doll $2.02 50 or $3 off the dirty water dog truck. And Was it called the dirty water dog truck?

Unknown Speaker (16:21): Are you I was about to say.

Speaker 1 (16:22): No. I would go there in the morning. And if I if I was hungry because I'd get in early and I didn't I didn't eat before I go to work, and I drink a pot of coffee, and so my stomach was empty. So then I would go and I'd eat chili dogs with onions and everything on them to soothe my stomach, which somehow that didn't work. Who would have thought?

Speaker 1 (16:40): In three years, is it three? Might not have been three. Might have been only two. I had ulcers. I had two.

Speaker 1 (16:47): And I had and people say, do you have ulcers, or you just got, esophageal, which is where they ask no. I had I had holes in my stomach. You know, you could could poke through. If you climb down into my little whatever those your long intestine is on the lower side.

Unknown Speaker (17:02): Did your dad have ulcers? No. That's crazy.

Speaker 1 (17:05): He went to war, man. He didn't he didn't start a business. He was the pussy. You know?

Unknown Speaker (17:11): He only drank every day. Yeah. Well, smoking I mean,

Speaker 1 (17:15): isn't that crazy? But he didn't do it till later in life. I mean, so I

Speaker 0 (17:18): would think that smoking would be worse for you than drinking. I don't know why.

Speaker 1 (17:21): Why smoke then too? I was I was smoking probably 10 cigarettes a day from fifteen until forty five. I quit at 45. So half pack a day on average, I would say. You know, you drink alcohol.

Speaker 1 (17:37): You drink two pack you smoke two packs, and then you have a day and a half to where you can't breathe, and then you come back. I also

Unknown Speaker (17:44): smoked this cigarette

Unknown Speaker (17:45): in a while. Had asthma. Health care.

Unknown Speaker (17:49): Health care. You're That's kind of funny to you.

Speaker 1 (17:52): Asthma. You drink liquor, coffee, and chili dogs, and and you got holes in your stomach.

Unknown Speaker (17:57): You just add some recreational drug use on top of that.

Speaker 1 (18:00): But you know what I read? I read when they were talking about the different things that affect different people. There was this long list of items that you go through that are horrible for you, and somewhere near the bottom was iceberg lettuce.

Unknown Speaker (18:13): Really?

Speaker 1 (18:14): And that just stuck in my mind. So every time somebody said, well, you gotta quit smoking. You gotta quit drinking. I'm like, no, man. It's fucking iceberg lettuce.

Speaker 0 (18:21): Well, that's like the people on the sopranos. They were like, do you want any fish? She's And like, no. There's mercury in fish, and she's smoking a cigarette.

Speaker 1 (18:28): I love that. That well, that's that's comedy irony, so the same kind of thing. But it's the same thing as Eddie. What's his name when he said it wasn't the cigarettes. It was.

Unknown Speaker (18:37): Eddie Van Halen?

Speaker 1 (18:39): Yeah. The guitar pick.

Speaker 0 (18:41): Yeah. I put guitar metal guitar picks in my mouth for my entire career. So it wasn't me smoking meth and also

Unknown Speaker (18:50): Three packs cigarettes a day or four. Was a Is it Chainer?

Unknown Speaker (18:53): He was a fine chain smoker.

Speaker 1 (18:54): He smoked all the time.

Speaker 0 (18:55): Well, smoked a lot of meth too in the early two thousands, which was a problem. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (19:00): Well, that's not good for you either, but I think he lost his tongue before the meth, or did he?

Unknown Speaker (19:04): No. It was after. It was after

Unknown Speaker (19:05): the meth. The the the pet pet.

Speaker 0 (19:07): Well, I imagine that meth puck gets hot. You know?

Unknown Speaker (19:11): Yeah.

Unknown Speaker (19:11): Brings your tongue.

Speaker 1 (19:12): But you wouldn't notice if you're really, really, really hot.

Unknown Speaker (19:15): If you're twacked.

Unknown Speaker (19:16): Yeah. Twacked. You're twacked with the tweeter. Tweaker with tweeter. How am I twacking?

Speaker 1 (19:21): How am I twacking tweaker? Well, I mean, what's the difference between being a twacking tweeter and somebody that drinks a whole pot of coffee in the morning?

Speaker 0 (19:31): I would say that, well, you know, it's funny as you think about contributions to society. And I don't know. I mean, Van Halen, hell of a contribution. I'm not gonna lie. Hell of a contribution.

Speaker 0 (19:41): Van Halen?

Speaker 1 (19:43): Yeah. Music. I mean, music. It made a lot of people happy. Is that what you were saying?

Speaker 0 (19:47): The best guitarist for I think it was, like, he's the longest running best guitarist in the world because he won, like, seven years in a row or something or five years

Speaker 1 (19:54): in a row. Let's look at him and say, what does guitarist do for society? Creates parties, music.

Speaker 0 (20:03): And that does what? Satiation entertainment.

Speaker 1 (20:07): You think it makes people happier?

Unknown Speaker (20:09): I would say so. I think it's arguable.

Speaker 1 (20:12): I think yeah. I I I I I can't argue against that because I gotta say that when I listen to Van Halen, I listen to lot of music. It it puts me in a mood.

Speaker 0 (20:20): Well, how many people would have died from killing themselves if Van Halen didn't exist? Right. I would say thousands, probably. Really? I'd say thousands.

Speaker 0 (20:30): David Lee Roth in the chicken costume in 1982. I think that that saved a lot of people's lives.

Speaker 1 (20:36): Certainly Sammy Hare would have killed himself. Yeah.

Unknown Speaker (20:38): No. That is definitely true.

Unknown Speaker (20:39): Yeah. He would have been dead.

Unknown Speaker (20:41): I always liked him in the interviews like, yeah, I just remember this, that, or the other. I'm like, yeah, get off your high horse here.

Speaker 1 (20:48): Yeah. I don't know, Roth never does that.

Speaker 0 (20:51): Roth never like in every single interview he does, it's about the two years that he was famous.

Unknown Speaker (20:57): Right.

Speaker 0 (20:57): It's about what he did after. When he was 50, he became a paramedic in New York. Yeah. When he was 50 years old. Right?

Speaker 0 (21:04): Isn't that crazy? Became an artist later on after he was 50 and and Wow. Moved to Japan for like five years after Van Halen, after they kicked him out. Mhmm. And, yeah, I went on to the single career that didn't take off, which I don't understand why.

Speaker 0 (21:20): I love the David Lee Ross singles.

Unknown Speaker (21:22): I think

Unknown Speaker (21:23): that a lot of them are good.

Unknown Speaker (21:24): Skyscraper Sloppy. For me, they're sloppy. Really? Yeah. I always thought they were sloppy.

Speaker 0 (21:29): In my opinion, though, he kind of invented the MTV music video, if you think about it.

Speaker 1 (21:34): They were in the early stages. Yeah.

Unknown Speaker (21:36): Yeah. He really

Speaker 1 (21:37): I mean, I was watching that when we we subscribed to HBO and MTV when MTV played music videos nonstop. And it was the coolest thing in the world because you get up in the morning. I'd make my Folgers coffee, and and and I'd have an 08:00 class. Right? And I was fifteen minutes from campus walking to get could I get my class?

Speaker 1 (22:01): And it would be, say, 07:45. So I had fifteen minutes to kill. What do you do? I mean, you go crap, but I'd already done that. So all the key things that I had to do in the morning were done.

Speaker 1 (22:13): I had to kill fifteen minutes. And it's like, I'm certainly not gonna read my homework or book or anything like that. I hit the TV, and I watched, you know, two or three videos. And it was just like, woah. It was just amazing.

Speaker 1 (22:27): And at first, it was included, and then it was, like, $6.99 and then $8.99 and then a million dollars.

Speaker 0 (22:34): Well, now they discontinued it. MTV's over. MTV's done. Crazy.

Speaker 1 (22:38): Well, they don't, I think because you can go to YouTube and it's free. Yeah. By the it's your own thing, and you could probably design your I wanna see music video that is related to country western. Boom. You know you know, rockabilly or whatever music that that turns you on.

Unknown Speaker (22:57): You could you could Well, I

Unknown Speaker (22:58): think the music video really isn't as popular as it used to be. You know? I really don't think it is.

Unknown Speaker (23:04): Because

Unknown Speaker (23:05): Why?

Speaker 1 (23:07): Thirty seconds.

Unknown Speaker (23:09): About the streaming, music streaming.

Speaker 1 (23:11): Right. You got you got our our attention span I mean, went from three minutes, four minutes on a song to now under a minute. I mean, how when you're scrolling, anybody that's listening in, when you're scrolling, it it's hard to get something that's interesting. And once it's interesting, once you've been in there more than thirty seconds, you're like, yeah. Is it worth it to continue?

Unknown Speaker (23:37): Exactly. No. No. Every time. No.

Speaker 1 (23:41): It's it's just it's a product. You know? It just

Speaker 0 (23:44): But you're not an espresso guy. You're not.

Speaker 1 (23:47): I I did a few times because when you were telling me it's less caffeine It is. It was really, really good that that so I started popping it in the afternoon because I was I I I nap. I'm old. I'm 66. You know, in the afternoon, I get tired.

Speaker 1 (24:03): I'm saying, hey. If I pop an espresso, then I stay up. And then I can go to bed and have a normal sleep, and that was stupid, and it didn't work.

Unknown Speaker (24:12): I can drink this anyway.

Unknown Speaker (24:13): To me just kills me.

Speaker 0 (24:15): Doesn't matter for me. I don't know why. Because last night, my roommate swooped me to a birthday dinner, drank a shot of espresso after for dessert, and went home, went to sleep. No problem.

Speaker 1 (24:28): Well, see, I think I think it might kinda be a substitute. For what? Well, see, I loved amphetamines.

Unknown Speaker (24:37): Yeah. No. Definitely.

Speaker 1 (24:38): Late high school, early out of high school, right up until college, you know, to, like, real college, not well, I don't want shouldn't say that. I mean, community college, was still doing amphetamines because I was still working construction, working, you know, 12 on and whatever. But I I just it just it gave me clarity that I that it's just amazing. And so I look at you and I say, well, you did 80 you did the ADHD thing, and then when we talk to somebody, they looked at me and they go go, my god. We know where the hell he got it from because I am like a scatterball of marbles on

Unknown Speaker (25:11): board.

Unknown Speaker (25:12): I was bad.

Unknown Speaker (25:13): I don't think I'm as bad?

Unknown Speaker (25:15): Yeah. As me?

Unknown Speaker (25:16): No. I don't think I'm

Unknown Speaker (25:17): as bad as you. Squirrel. I

Speaker 0 (25:21): don't think I am, but Yeah. I do notice it, though. When I need to focus on something

Unknown Speaker (25:27): Yeah.

Speaker 0 (25:27): I will do something else instead. Sometimes not all the time, but definitely sometimes. And that could, that can be a little, a little difficult, but

Speaker 1 (25:36): Well, some people call it procrastination. Other people call it, you know, you just, it's hard to keep it long train of thought. That's why it's very hard for me to read a book now. I got I got was really good at it for a long time and then maybe that's because I was doing a lot of amphetamines. Maybe I need to go back to that.

Speaker 0 (25:50): Well, the phones are inventing ADHD. They're Yeah.

Unknown Speaker (25:53): They're helping you. They're putting it

Speaker 0 (25:55): bees into your crazy. Well, there's a reason why when you read a book, you get tired now, and it's because it doesn't have the constant backing and blue light. I feel like this country is just trying to

Unknown Speaker (26:04): make us tired. You know?

Unknown Speaker (26:06): What if you what if you

Unknown Speaker (26:07): use the Amazon readers? Isn't that a Well, if

Speaker 0 (26:09): you think about this country, bad health care and if you think about it, they push the media agenda on you so that you're always watching media and with bad health care and constant stimulation, what are you going to be without those things? You're going be fat and you're going be tired and fat tired people want can't rise up and fat tired people are stuck in a complacent kind of circular process. So, I mean, kind of makes sense. Kinda makes sense to me. Yep.

Unknown Speaker (26:34): You know?

Speaker 1 (26:35): I can't argue it. But no. And we need so we need more coffee.

Speaker 0 (26:38): The Berenstini. Bears not Berenstini. It's like the Berenstini bears. Berenstini is what it's called. It's the the espresso machine I have.

Speaker 0 (26:48): And so basically, you put the beans at the top, right? And it auto grinds them. And then you slide the, whatever it is, the the wooden handle thing with the espresso or the holds the espresso over and it loads it automatically loads it, shoots it back over, brews it, done. Easy. It's crazy.

Speaker 0 (27:07): Fun fact, I just descaled it for the first time I've ever and I've owned it for a year. That was a mistake. You're supposed to descale it every two months. And apparently, I was drinking mold out of the water tank as

Speaker 1 (27:19): well. Yeah. You gotta be careful. That's one of the big things. I remember Kuipers did he had a Keurig and he had set it up in the he thought he cleaned it well and put it up in the closet and then brought it down after two years and then he makes coffee and he goes to the hospital.

Speaker 1 (27:36): No.

Speaker 0 (27:38): He didn't go, but he thought he was gonna die.

Speaker 1 (27:39): Oh, yeah. They thought he was gonna die, but they're like, well, we ain't gonna get insurance if they save him.

Unknown Speaker (27:45): Because men don't go to the hospital.

Speaker 1 (27:47): Yeah. He They really don't. He was, you know, you know, you're you're running both ends when you do that, and it's just ugly.

Speaker 0 (27:53): Well, the water tank, yeah, was, it was moldy, and I wasn't noticing it. And my roommate so graciously said

Speaker 1 (28:00): See, they don't call it de molding. They call it descaling.

Unknown Speaker (28:03): Isn't that weird?

Speaker 1 (28:04): Yeah. It's not scaling. It's mold, you asshole. What are you talking about? Well, and they're gonna try to tell me that some part of a mold molecule is a scale, so that's what it really is, and you're like, okay, off.

Unknown Speaker (28:15): That's what you're

Unknown Speaker (28:16): sell me shit.

Speaker 0 (28:17): Exactly. Yep. Yeah. What else have I been doing? Yeah.

Speaker 0 (28:21): I used to America. I used to be a cold brew guy, but there's, like, two hundred milligrams of caffeine. Sugar. There's no sugar in it.

Speaker 1 (28:31): No. When I when I when I drank the first coffees that were coming out, they were really, really sweet. You know? When I drank

Speaker 0 (28:39): Starbucks is a milk business. It's not even a coffee business.

Speaker 1 (28:41): When I drink no. When you go to UK and you get, there, they take the milk pitcher and the coffee pitcher.

Unknown Speaker (28:48): So much milk.

Unknown Speaker (28:49): No. They do it like this.

Unknown Speaker (28:51): They do it.

Speaker 1 (28:51): That's that's it. It it comes out at the same rate. So you're drinking and it's probably about a third milk to a cup of coffee. So it's it's heavy milk. And I'm always I don't like that.

Unknown Speaker (29:02): That will make me throw

Speaker 1 (29:03): up. I don't like it that much. I because it makes you it's milk is really fatty. You know? And European milk, I think, is maybe it's fattier or I don't know.

Unknown Speaker (29:14): Maybe it's just that I'm crazy. But yeah. That's change of fact.

Unknown Speaker (29:18): I'm just black.

Unknown Speaker (29:19): I'm a I'm a I'm a I'm a cream drinker. I'm a cream guy. Do you use half and half or

Unknown Speaker (29:24): do use heavy cream?

Speaker 1 (29:25): I use whatever stuff dilutes it just a little bit. The only time I don't use cream is when I'm camping, like when we were doing Whitney. And I remember that's when I get introduced to those little Starbucks things. The guy goes, these things are the greatest in the world. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (29:38): And, he brings them out. I'm going like, oh, shit. Instant coffee. Starbucks is probably $9 for a little tube, and it probably tastes like shit. And he pours it in there, and I drank it.

Speaker 1 (29:49): And I'm like, oh my god. This is this is better than Starbucks coffee.

Speaker 0 (29:54): Yeah. You were telling me about eight eight or nine years ago now about how good it was, and I was like, yeah. Sure. And then I tried it, and I was like, wow. This is almost better than what they brew at the store.

Speaker 1 (30:06): It is. I I think it's much better. I I really like it because it's a mellower. It doesn't taste as burnt. And They burn it.

Speaker 1 (30:13): And you're in camper trip. You don't have cream. So I had I just put a little sugar in. Just take a pinch. Just like salt and put it in there and just like, wow.

Speaker 1 (30:21): This is just great. Especially, there's something about sitting on a log Yeah. When it's, 45 degrees outside. You can see your breath, and you're you're wearing all this gear on and you have your knapsack and you're drinking a hot cup of coffee and you're just like, wow. And the sun's rising or, you know, you hear the birds chirping and you're in the middle of nowhere and there's snow on the mountaintop and and you got 10 miles to walk that day straight the fuck up.

Speaker 1 (30:47): And you're like, I need this. I need this. The only thing it's the bad thing is, is it coffee on the trail?

Unknown Speaker (30:55): Yeah. I see the problem.

Unknown Speaker (30:57): You just bought to poo poo.

Speaker 0 (30:59): That's what we were having the problem with in Mongolia. Yeah. Because the on the research trip, you have to be able to squat over a hole that's like a and then it has like a metal structure over it. And there's no bars to hold onto on the side. Oh.

Speaker 0 (31:15): Yeah. And me and Christian, I think held it for five days. Woah. And yeah, that was

Unknown Speaker (31:22): tough. Walkmasters.

Speaker 0 (31:24): Would fall in. Well, luckily, whenever people travel generally, it's you you get a little stopped up. But I was very lucky in that yeah. When we got to the hotel, was like, man, finally. Yeah.

Unknown Speaker (31:36): That's nice. Yeah. I was it was close.

Speaker 1 (31:38): Sit on the toilet and just let it go for wow. Just go like a welcome home, my friend. Well, I remember Kilimanjaro that they had the hole and

Unknown Speaker (31:50): you got bars on the side?

Unknown Speaker (31:52): No. These were wooden, like, two by fours over a hole.

Speaker 0 (31:57): So you could fall in the hole. And the hole is nice. Was 10 feet deep.

Unknown Speaker (32:03): Oh, yeah. And at the bottom was was nothing but poop.

Unknown Speaker (32:07): Yeah. So if you fell Centuries. I was like, I'm not I'm not doing that. I can't do

Speaker 1 (32:10): Centuries of poo poo. And and Kilimanjaro, there was 50 people that just pooped in the hole right before you and or peed in it, and it was probably 10 feet down because you're splashing. Yeah. But you're you gotta crouch down, and there was a, there was a ribbon. Somebody had tied it around the door, and I was holding on to the ribbon, crouched down.

Speaker 1 (32:33): And I have my headlight on. Because you're not flexible. There's no lights in it out there. You have your you carry all your light everywhere you are, and it's midnight. Okay?

Speaker 1 (32:43): And I'm getting ready to climb up a mountain. If I don't crap here, where am I gonna do it? Because there's no you know, there's nothing there. So you go you go you do your potty there. I mean, when we did, Whitney, we we pooped in a we pooped in bags.

Speaker 1 (33:04): Yeah. And then you had to bring your bag and give it to them. And they weighed you on the way in, and they weighed you on the way out to make sure that you brought back all your excrement.

Unknown Speaker (33:13): Oh, interesting.

Speaker 1 (33:15): Yeah. Well, not not excrement. They wanted trash to make sure that you were not leaving anything behind because she I mean, frankly, it's sad that you can't trust people, but you can't because they'll just drop shit.

Speaker 0 (33:26): No. That was like the the waterfall where we live, where it got published in the Washington Post. Yeah. And then there was nothing but trash.

Unknown Speaker (33:35): Pig's eye.

Speaker 0 (33:36): From then on out, the people from Maryland came, and they littered all over the place. Gosh. Yeah. It's

Unknown Speaker (33:43): a common

Unknown Speaker (33:43): common thing.

Speaker 1 (33:44): You see all that and it's like, it's bad. I

Speaker 0 (33:47): don't understand. I don't understand the whole littering thing because I mean, you know subconsciously, no matter how stupid you are, you know, it's not going back into the earth, you know, like, I don't know. You can be really dumb.

Speaker 1 (34:00): I hold it. I would tell you, I thought banana peels did.

Unknown Speaker (34:04): Oh, do they not? Nevermind.

Unknown Speaker (34:05): No, they do not. No, they do not.

Speaker 0 (34:07): So if we didn't know that, maybe people think cans kinda melt into the grind too. You know?

Speaker 1 (34:12): They do, but in three hundred years.

Unknown Speaker (34:14): There's probably a person like that out there. I'm

Speaker 1 (34:15): sure. Yeah. But the I I was hiking in Great Falls, and I had a banana peel. I'm like, oh, I'm gonna leave it for the, you know, blah blah blah. And then Jose tells me that they don't biodegrade.

Speaker 1 (34:29): They it takes months to biodegrade, and it's it leaves things behind that you don't wanna leave behind. I'm like, really?

Unknown Speaker (34:37): It's because of the chikita.

Speaker 1 (34:38): No. I went and I got it, and I took it and put it in the trash. I said, I didn't I didn't realize that. I thought it was, you know, like, apples, cores, and all that. And they're like, well, you're not supposed to throw apple cores because, you know, you know, when you're throwing a Fuji apple on the ground, it that's not native to this area.

Speaker 0 (34:53): So Neither is the highway. So Yeah. I I don't.

Speaker 1 (34:56): Right. Yeah. Well, you're trying to you're trying to keep the forest different than the highway, though. You know what I mean?

Unknown Speaker (35:01): I thought you meant, like, throwing out your window on a highway.

Speaker 1 (35:04): No. No. No. We don't. We stopped throwing stuff out of our window at least two years ago.

Unknown Speaker (35:08): Yeah. Yep.

Speaker 1 (35:09): Emptying your ash emptying your ashtray in the parking lot where you shopped.

Speaker 0 (35:15): Well, I always love emptying my ashtray out of my window when the backseat window is down too so that the passenger the passenger gets the the the ash in their face.

Unknown Speaker (35:26): Gets the big dust. That's great.

Unknown Speaker (35:28): You know what I thought about?

Unknown Speaker (35:29): So much I thought about.

Speaker 0 (35:30): You know what I thought about? Random epiphany. Not really epiphany, but a memory for me and you. Neighbor's cat died. This was about ten years ago.

Speaker 0 (35:38): Neighbors. We saw a roadkill cat on the side of the road. We said that might be his cat. We shoveled the cat, put it in a bag in our freezer for a week, and then the the Radar. The neighbor was on vacation, and the neighbor came down, looked in the bag, said that's something.

Speaker 1 (35:54): No. No. She didn't look in the bag. I called her.

Unknown Speaker (35:57): Oh, I thought she looked in the bag. She said that's No. Not No. No.

Speaker 1 (35:59): I wasn't I I didn't wanna tell her and not be dead or tell her that if she wanted to know. So I said, hey. I saw a black cat dead on the side of the road, and I picked it up. Remember you and I stopped, and we walked over, and I had a garbage bag.

Unknown Speaker (36:16): I still remember doing that.

Unknown Speaker (36:17): Garbage bag, tied it up, come home, throw it in the freezer.

Unknown Speaker (36:20): That was crazy.

Speaker 1 (36:22): And then she came back from China, like, fifteen days later.

Unknown Speaker (36:27): Yeah. It was it was two weeks ago.

Speaker 1 (36:29): And then I called her. And I said, oh, I have you seen radar? And she says, oh, yeah. He came home. Wow.

Speaker 1 (36:37): Because she told me he was missing. And when she told me he was missing and that's why I said, radar's missing. There's a dead black cat on the side of George Tom Pike. That's kinda radars.

Speaker 0 (36:47): I thought she came down, looked at the frozen cat. No. That that's not my cat. And then we had to bury it. Remember when we took one

Speaker 1 (36:54): of the bat? Edwin had a similar story in his neighborhood for a dead cat because

Unknown Speaker (36:58): Put it in the freezer?

Speaker 1 (37:00): Well, somebody had declawed their cat, let it outside. It jumped the fence into his backyard. He had three dogs all over 80 pounds. They he got it away, but it was dead. It was dead really, really quick because the cat turned around, ran to the fence, and the fence

Unknown Speaker (37:21): you ever declaw an animal.

Speaker 1 (37:22): The fence was crazy. Like, seven or eight feet high, and the cat couldn't climb the fence because it didn't have any claws. So it couldn't get away. So it got over the top, and then it was dog bait. And so he grabs it.

Speaker 1 (37:34): He has to rush for work because he's been late so many times. They're yelling at him all the time. So he wraps it up in a plastic bag and throws it in the freezer. He forgets about it. Forget I mean, this is what's so typical, Edwin.

Speaker 1 (37:47): It's so funny. He says he he said, you know, I forgot about it. Then I'm walking around the neighbor. I go out and I take a walk on the neighborhood, and I see these signs up for this missing cat. Then I go back and I look in my freezer because I'm like, is that the same one?

Speaker 1 (38:04): And it was. Oh my gosh. Oh my gosh. I he said, I I I I I forget. He said, I I I took him a a plate of lasagna or something because I felt sorry.

Unknown Speaker (38:15): Garfield loves lasagna too.

Speaker 1 (38:17): Yeah. Well, he did something like that to say, you know, apology. He didn't tell him that he killed it because it's like, what what are you gonna do? You know, your declawed cat jumped in my backyard. Why would you be so They were

Unknown Speaker (38:30): when we buried the frozen cat. What? They were when we buried the frozen cat? Yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (38:36): Backyard. That's where we buried all the animals. We had a raccoon was buried there.

Speaker 0 (38:41): But burying a frozen animal is a little different I will say.

Unknown Speaker (38:45): Yeah. We could probably go dig it up and see what it looks

Unknown Speaker (38:47): like. I was your its teeth were all out. Do you remember that? I was like,

Unknown Speaker (38:51): No. I don't yeah. Yeah.

Unknown Speaker (38:53): Yeah. I was like that. You remember that? It had, like, the one

Speaker 1 (38:55): They usually die with their tongue out and their eyes open. That's the way animals usually die.

Unknown Speaker (38:59): I don't know why.

Speaker 1 (39:00): I don't know why. That one's eyes were closed, though. I know. Strange.

Unknown Speaker (39:05): Yeah.

Speaker 1 (39:06): You know? That's the way they typically die. It's not all the time. You know, some people's eyes are closed, some are not. Anyway, coffee.

Speaker 1 (39:14): Today. Today, we drink. We've been buying Starbucks. Not Starbucks. We've been buying Costco coffee.

Speaker 1 (39:20): We buy been buying the two pound green berries. The Vienna blend has been cheap. It's like 8 $7.50 or $8 a pound. And I don't know why I care about the price, But we've always shopped around and we would buy different brands of coffee all the time because I would buy pounds and say, Do you like this? Do you like this?

Speaker 1 (39:38): Do you like this? And we'd rarely find anything that we would all agree on. And we've been doing that for almost two years, and then we're going to Costco, went the other day, and she goes like, I don't like green berries anymore. And that's what that's what my wife sounds like. I don't like it.

Unknown Speaker (39:54): You're so sincere. You know? You're so sincere.

Speaker 1 (39:58): Fuck you, old man. Anyway, I bought three new brands. One, I mean, you're gonna be here. I'm almost done with the two pound pack and we're gonna pick one of the three that I bought. I bought a Costco one, a Major Dickinson one.

Speaker 0 (40:10): You said you ate the calzone there, didn't you? You what? You said you ate the calzone.

Speaker 1 (40:15): I ate the calzone because last time I had two hot dogs there, and I gotta tell you

Unknown Speaker (40:19): With the calzone?

Speaker 1 (40:20): No. I just had I had I used to get a hot dog and a piece of pizza, and that made me happy because I eat about a quarter of the pizza or a third, and they eat, the whole hot dog. And that was all I wanted. Because usually what happens is is we're gonna go to Costco, and it's 10:00 in the morning, and we don't get there until one. And then I haven't eaten anything.

Speaker 1 (40:42): And so two rolls around, and I'm starving. So I see all this shit on the menu, and it's cheap. So I feel like, hey. I should buy twice what I want. Oh, yeah.

Speaker 1 (40:51): And and then I do, and then I can't. And then it's not doesn't taste as good as I think it is. And I don't eat it all. So that's and I'll I'll do that again and again. You're like, what are you?

Speaker 1 (41:02): I I'm the, what did they call stupid when you try the same thing and you do it over and over and it happens?

Speaker 0 (41:07): Insane. Einstein.

Speaker 1 (41:08): Yeah. Insane. Insane. I'm definitely I'm definitely on the insanity side. You know?

Speaker 1 (41:12): That's where I work the most. But we drink the Vienna. We're gonna switch to another coffee. We have a coffee maker. I went through trials of coffee makers for I've had the one that you do at home where you have the cappuccino maker and all that, and and the problem is we never cleaned it.

Unknown Speaker (41:29): It was a pain in the ass. We have a lot

Unknown Speaker (41:31): of it too. I hate doing that.

Speaker 1 (41:32): The Italian one, the press. What is that? We have I press really like that.

Unknown Speaker (41:37): I really like great.

Speaker 1 (41:38): I like that a lot. You know? And then but it you had to boil all the water for it, and it seemed like it got cold before you actually got to drink the coffee.

Unknown Speaker (41:48): It's not strong enough either.

Unknown Speaker (41:50): Yeah. Not strong enough.

Unknown Speaker (41:51): If I remember you have to pour it in and you gotta let it steep

Unknown Speaker (41:54): Yeah.

Speaker 0 (41:54): For like four to five minutes.

Unknown Speaker (41:56): Yeah. And I'm And then

Speaker 0 (41:57): you press it down. Yep. Yeah. And it's

Speaker 1 (42:00): not percolator. I like the percolator, but it just no. And then because I had percolator,

Unknown Speaker (42:09): which used the Bustelo, didn't I?

Speaker 1 (42:10): Ritz Carlton coffee. Don't know what it was over here here at one of Tysons.

Unknown Speaker (42:15): Good.

Speaker 1 (42:16): For some reason, it was just amazing coffee. Just and it was percolator. You know? Just really, really, really good. And I don't I don't know what it was.

Unknown Speaker (42:24): I don't know what the blend was, but it's really good.

Unknown Speaker (42:26): You did the stove espresso machine too. That's the Bustelo.

Speaker 1 (42:30): Yeah. That that that was okay. And because what we're trying to do is trying to find the perfect one because, you know, if you're gonna drink something every day and use it every day, you wanna find the very best to your own particular taste. Right? So we actually bought multiple different coffee machines, and I I would use them two or three times and then give them away.

Unknown Speaker (42:50): Oh.

Speaker 1 (42:50): Nah. I don't like that. Or you find the problem with them. Like, the the pause and pour doesn't work. The That one

Unknown Speaker (42:58): leaked all over the place.

Speaker 1 (42:59): Right. There's one that leaked. There's one that I mean, there's there we would find all these little problems, and it's like, I'm not keeping something that costs $40. And and I was ready. I I saw the one the coolest one I had.

Speaker 1 (43:12): It was a great cup of coffee. What is it? Really expensive coffee maker. Where did I go? We were looking at granite or something.

Speaker 1 (43:22): And you press a button, and it grinds it, and it makes whatever you want. And you have like cappuccino, whatever you want. And you fill up the coffee up here, and it's got a hard water line in it. And I was like, wow, I want that. And I looked at it and was like $4.

Speaker 1 (43:40): And I'm talking to the wife about spending $4 on a coffee maker, and she goes, you're nuts. No, Not doing that. No. No. And it's like because and the one thing that that would have bothered me more than anything is like, how do you clean it?

Speaker 0 (43:53): The milk whisker too. If you have a milk whisker or milk steamer on the side of one of those, it's an absolute nightmare.

Unknown Speaker (44:00): I knew a fan of that.

Speaker 0 (44:01): Had the one that goes in the wall. You know? Like, you know how they're in I think it was, like, around 2020 or '20 Yeah. 08/19 when we started putting coffee machines in houses Yeah. Like, into the wall.

Speaker 0 (44:13): Right. And you gotta hire a guy to clean that. You can't do it yourself. It's a nightmare. Wow.

Speaker 0 (44:19): It's an absolute nightmare because there I remember everyone was like, their milk whisker, the because it's a whisker and a steamer is was broken every time. And I'm like, gosh. That's crazy. You know?

Speaker 1 (44:32): And and it's like, it's I don't want something that's that much hassle.

Unknown Speaker (44:35): No. I mean, we had the we had to get your coffee machine serviced. That's crazy. That's crazy.

Speaker 1 (44:40): One year we're married, I think, one year or one year after we married her birthday, I got her the really cool, make your own cappuccino, make your own coffee, one of these really cool, the, ones that you grind and you do all this kind of stuff like that. And, but, I mean, every time you used it, you had to clean, like, four parts. Yeah. And if you made cappuccino, then you had to clean the whisker part. You had to clean the tube.

Unknown Speaker (45:08): You had to clean the top. You have to clean the barrel that it came in. And then you're over here and you're just like, this fucking ain't worth it, man.

Unknown Speaker (45:13): No. It's a nightmare. You know? Be like me and just don't descale your your espresso machine for a year and drink mold. That's what it's all about.

Unknown Speaker (45:22): Smarter.

Unknown Speaker (45:23): Don't descale anything. I don't know. I mean, we just throw them away and get a new one.

Unknown Speaker (45:26): Well, that's a drip coffee maker. So that's a little different.

Unknown Speaker (45:29): No. You gotta wash those too. You absolutely do because they get all funky inside during the and the coffee starts to taste weird, and the machine actually tells you time to.

Speaker 0 (45:38): I've been to hotels where they there's mold inside of the pot. Right.

Unknown Speaker (45:42): Well, what's the one I heard? Were you the one that told me that? What? The Keurig machine?

Unknown Speaker (45:48): What about the Keurig machine?

Unknown Speaker (45:49): You didn't tell me you didn't tell me the story about the Keurig where the guys wash their underwear in there?

Unknown Speaker (45:53): No. I did not say that one. Somebody washes their underwear in a Keura

Speaker 1 (45:57): in I have no coffee pot. I just I heard that.

Unknown Speaker (46:00): Yeah.

Unknown Speaker (46:01): And I can't drink curd coffee at a hotel anymore because it's like But there's no pot.

Speaker 0 (46:06): So what are they how are they washing their underwear?

Speaker 1 (46:09): Well, it's hot. You make the water really, really hot and it boils it up and they put a little soap in there and

Unknown Speaker (46:15): But like in the sink?

Speaker 1 (46:17): Yeah. I don't know why you wouldn't use the sink

Unknown Speaker (46:18): That doesn't make any sense.

Unknown Speaker (46:19): Machine. But somebody was telling me that they

Unknown Speaker (46:21): did that.

Unknown Speaker (46:22): You know? I will there was

Speaker 0 (46:24): the guy that goes to he's a viral video maker. Yeah. And he made French onion soup in a hotel sink and like a big batch of soup in the sink and that was nasty. That was really nasty. He he had, like, the giant wand that heated up and he melted, a whole block of cheese over the sink, and it was French onion soup in the sink.

Speaker 0 (46:46): And that was that was kinda wild. Go watch that video. That's a good video right there. But what do we have for time here?

Unknown Speaker (46:54): Hold on. Hold on. Hold on. We gotta see this.

Unknown Speaker (46:55): Oh, Paul.

Speaker 1 (46:56): Hold on. Okay. Oh my god. The underwear washing hack. The message.

Speaker 1 (47:05): Travelers place underwear in their machine where their coffee pot or grounds usually go, then run a brewing cycle to soak the garments in boiling water.

Unknown Speaker (47:14): Oh my god.

Speaker 1 (47:15): Some people then use the hotel hair dryer to dry the fabric. Proponents claim it acts as a makeshift steamer to sanitize and clean underwear in a pinch when laundry options are limited. So if you drank coffee in any place, realize that somebody may have stuck their underwear in the little in the basket. And it is not a legend. Woah.

Speaker 1 (47:46): And it's shared by influencers as a hack, and you're like,

Speaker 0 (47:50): oh, fuck. Ruined my day. Influencers have ruined the world.

Speaker 1 (47:53): Flight attendants do it. Flight attendants do it. Oh my god. Oh.

Unknown Speaker (48:01): Well, that's I don't even know how to react

Speaker 1 (48:04): to know how much coffee I've drank from I I mean, am I I've sipped I've sipped a lot of asshole. You know what I mean? That's really sad. Well, that's the whole thing that, like, a Cracker Barrel, I can never eat. I can I can never use ketchup any mother No?

Speaker 1 (48:17): Anymore because, your grandmother, Meme, said, oh, yeah. It was a Cracker Barrel, and I saw this guy, and he had a ketchup bottle. And he and he had unscrewed the top, and he was pouring a ketchup on his fries. And then he licked the top around the bottle and screwed the top back on.

Unknown Speaker (48:38): Do they put his tongue in the middle, like, the hole?

Speaker 1 (48:40): I don't really care. I don't really care what he did, but when she said he licked, I just have a visual of that. And now I have a visual of somebody putting their underwear in that little basket that holds your little container, and you just go like, are you kidding me? Really? Because your water runs through.

Speaker 1 (49:01): Oh my god.

Unknown Speaker (49:02): Stories like this Oh my god. Think that humans are just parasites. You know? Like, that's crazy. Disgusting.

Speaker 0 (49:07): I don't I don't understand how the Keurig one works. I understand if, like, you put your This

Unknown Speaker (49:11): is just this is what you got the little four four potter.

Unknown Speaker (49:13): Just the coffee.

Unknown Speaker (49:14): Because you got a cup. You get so you

Unknown Speaker (49:15): have That makes more sense.

Unknown Speaker (49:16): You need a basket. You need a basket to put your underwear in.

Unknown Speaker (49:19): Do you think that that's why they switched to Keurigs was because of this?

Unknown Speaker (49:23): That would be better. Keurig would

Unknown Speaker (49:24): work better. So many people are

Speaker 1 (49:26): cleaning that go through a Keurig. That's that's a good point. So Keurig may be okay. That good very good point. Keurig should be okay.

Speaker 1 (49:34): I thought it was Keurig that was doing it. Why you should avoid it. Okay, they have to tell you why you should avoid this. It's unsanitary. Hotels generally not deep clean or sanitized coffee makers.

Speaker 1 (49:45): Health risks, the process works both ways. Running dirty clothes through a Keurig can leave behind germs, viruses. For the next guest, residential coffee oils, mold or bacteria inside a shared reservoir can transfer to your garments. The trend regularly sparks massive outrage online with travelers criticizing the practices revolting and incredibly inconsiderate. Better alternatives, fucking pay for your goddamn laundry, you cheap motherfucker.

Speaker 1 (50:14): Pack extra underwear.

Speaker 0 (50:16): You know what that reminds me of is the I know people disgust. On airplanes were licking the toilet seat, and they're like, COVID's not gonna get me. No. And that was crazy. Like, why was that happening?

Unknown Speaker (50:27): Hear that?

Speaker 0 (50:27): I've saw videos of it. It was crazy. And it's like, I you know what I don't understand is when you're trying to make a point, like, to to such an extent that you make yourself look stupid and you think Right. That like you are doing an intellectual argument by licking a toilet seat.

Unknown Speaker (50:44): That's sad. That's kind

Speaker 0 (50:45): of interesting. Wow. That's why we're 56% can't read above a sixth grade reading level. Makes sense. It makes a lot

Speaker 1 (50:53): of I need to go wash some underwear, I better get a new coffee maker.

Speaker 0 (50:57): Fall of the western world is upon us.

Speaker 1 (50:59): Yes. It's happening right in the office. Let's close on coffee. What's your what's your favorite coffee? Right?

Unknown Speaker (51:05): You said, what was your favorite coffee?

Speaker 0 (51:06): IcedAmericano. Iced Americano.

Speaker 1 (51:09): So so the reason you're poor is because you drink $4 coffees, right?

Speaker 0 (51:13): Exactly. That's why. I'm never going to own a house because it's not because of inflation but it's because of. Yeah. The $4.

Unknown Speaker (51:20): Yeah, that $4 is going to give you that.

Speaker 0 (51:23): It's really going to help me get to

Unknown Speaker (51:25): a 150,000 down.

Unknown Speaker (51:26): Yeah. Let's

Speaker 1 (51:27): figure that out. Let me see how many cups of coffee we're talking. Let's say, how many coffees a year do you drink?

Unknown Speaker (51:35): I couldn't even tell you.

Speaker 1 (51:37): Well, let's say if it it it let's say they're $4 a pop. Do you drink one every day? Do you buy one every day?

Unknown Speaker (51:44): Not every day.

Unknown Speaker (51:45): About four days a week, five days a week?

Unknown Speaker (51:47): I'd say three.

Speaker 1 (51:48): Three? Yeah. It was fifty two weeks, so that's a 150 cups a year. So, one fifty.

Unknown Speaker (51:56): Times five.

Speaker 1 (51:57): Times four equals Oh, okay. $600. Let's say the down payment on your house is gonna be $40. Right? Let's say you're gonna get a really cheap house.

Speaker 1 (52:06): Mhmm. Ten percent forty on a $400,000 mortgage. Right?

Unknown Speaker (52:10): Mhmm.

Speaker 1 (52:11): So let's say, if it's $40, so we do clear, we do 40 divided by 600. You'll be able to if you'd stop drinking coffee in sixty six years, you will have that 40 grain.

Unknown Speaker (52:29): Oh, nice. That's good to know.

Unknown Speaker (52:31): What the fuck?

Speaker 0 (52:32): The new American dream is to leave. That's what I'm seeing everywhere. Yeah. Alright. Well, on that note, thank you guys for listening.

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