Where Have We Been?

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Yeah.
Hello and welcome back to a new

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episode of a record of my
father.

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We're on Zoom now instead of our
Riverside has we were having

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technical difficulties for the
past month and a half figuring

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out which software to figure
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Yeah.
In two years instead of the one

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that just kept tanking are our
content so bear with us in this

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these trying times.
But today's episode is going to

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be a new series about updates
when and where we We've been and

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what we've been up to is going
to be the content of today's

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episode.
So we're in 11 of you, you even

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doing over there.
Nothin, ma'am.

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Oh, yeah, I guess I've been
doing some stuff but I but I did

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want to touch on that.
Say that did all the technical

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difficulties are not my fault.
They're all is the executive

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producer.
I don't know why he's blaming

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me.
Yeah, he got promoted.

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Yeah, and as soon as he got
home, I got everything on

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multiple episodes and got
literally nothing we could use

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from them.
I think really 45.

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Yeah, it was just a lot of hair
pulling out.

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If you can see you too, I used
to have a full head of hair.

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I don't anymore.
And that's why it's not behind

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because I'm COBOL sister reason.
Yeah.

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Well, here we are, I've had I've
heard a lot of people say,

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hopefully the audio quality is
still up to Snuff because that's

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a big thing.
That a lot of people say is

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like, when they hear of speak,
your voice is.

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Wow.
And evidently mind waiting out

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here, right?
Yeah.

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That'll give a shit about me.
They care about whatever you

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hear about you.
I'm just here for The for the

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opportunity.
So what?

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What have I been doing?
Yeah.

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You're at Alex automatic, right?
Oh yeah, yeah, I have a new.

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I have a new position that's
like one of the things that's

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happened.
It's kind of interesting.

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I started to work yet.
It elects odda and it's it's

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basically takes artificial
intelligence the the the gbt of

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the chat gbt and it's train with
algorithms.

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Points at rules and regulations
for Securities laws and the

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person that's doing is been
doing for three years.

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I paint him in, like January, we
got, we got into conversations

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and it's really interesting to
me and I'll give you a little

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history.
When I started in this industry,

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I started in 85 and it was
picked documents, off-the-shelf,

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copy them, and send them all
over the world via fax and

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Courier.
And and then it went to We used

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modems.
So we developed an online system

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and we sent and we put them on a
service and you can log in, you

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can download the crap from a
modem and that work for about

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three or four years and then the
internet came along and then we

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thought we should build
something there.

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So I went to the internet and
then as the internet progressed,

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we developed algorithms that
allowed you to search and go to

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specific places of the document.
And now you don't have to just

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ask questions.
It's just ask questions and I

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thought that was really cool.
Because it's kind of like going

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from, you know, wooden ship to
Steamboat to diesel-powered to

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nuclear-powered.
I mean in the, my grandfather

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did that as a Navy guy who
started in the Navy when he was

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you know, in the late 1800s and
he was running a wooden boat and

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then when he retired he was
under you as a reference from.

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Okay?
Yeah, that's where I got it

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from.
This is kind of cool because I

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thought about that it's like,
wow and I retired on nuclear,

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you know, a nuclear I don't read
Arizona.

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Whatever was yeah, eat it.
Oh, wow.

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Yeah, he missed see.
Miss the, he he he actually

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missed the plane to make it to
Hawaii.

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Well, going back for those that
are just joining us on this

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episode and argue to a record of
my father.

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What he's talking about as well
as Law Firm research information

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and how that has changed
throughout time.

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But how do you see silly?
A, I now write is Jeb.

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You g PT is what everybody's
talking about.

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Now it's read the internet, you
can ask it any question but it's

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what I'm really interested in is
how that is going to influence a

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search engine for Law Firm
research information, how do you

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think that we can influence?
Well I think it's interesting

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because you look at it and if
you weren't around but in the

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early 90s they came out with
something called browsers they

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had Netscape Yahoo.
I mean there were others was

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before that but these are the
first that were commercially

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there was.
I think there was Northern

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Lights was why On there's Alta
Vista.

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There was like four big ones
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They actually went public.
They started growing really fast

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and everybody used a different
browser to search just like

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today there's only what is it?
What do they use Chrome or

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Microsoft Edge?
I think is the other one?

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Yeah, he's one of those too.
But then there were, everybody

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was picking one Netscape took
off, but this to me is like,

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well, there's a chat gvt.
But is there anything else out

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there?
And I start talking to people,

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there's actually a number of
other ones that are out there

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that In some instances are
better need more this or that

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and it really depends what you
aim.

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This this software act you want
to and not at the end of that

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proposition.
But you want to aim it at a

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controlled data set that you can
search through in a very

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structured fashion and the more
structure, the better the

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answers you're going to get.
Because if you go in and you

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say, Okay, I want to know what's
the average Courage, length of

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time that someone gets for
stealing a car, you know?

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And the question is, if you put,
if you look at the sentencing

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data and the and York or
Mississippi or in California,

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you will get three different
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those, but if you take all of
the data together, you can wait

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to get a different answer.
So the outcome is going to be

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really based upon, you know,
What you put into it and how it

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searches it.
So, and how its, and also, how

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you trick the algorithms and,
you know, and because you can

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actually you can make it cheap
to, you know, you can, you can

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only use data sets that proved
your point.

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So you can point it at
something, and this is what's

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going to happen in the future.
I'm going to want to prove a

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point and then I'm going to say,
hey, I used artificial

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intelligence.
I got an answer and that way, I

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proved the point was only to
look at, you know, people that

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agreed with me, right?
I mean they Dominus Well, you

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boys are doing, I mean, they're
doing it now, but they're going

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to.
But what they're going to do is

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you're going to step back and
say, it's not me, Zach, it's,

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it's, it's the machine came up
with this and this is the right

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way.
So it must issue a question

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asking as well.
Yeah, right.

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Exactly.
Some people like you and the

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generation after you are going
to have to get much smarter

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about being lied to, okay.
And you're gonna have to realize

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that the person sitting on the
other side of the screen that's

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talking to you.
What are they?

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Get out of this.
Just reminds me of high school.

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How able you were, how good you
were asking on Google Scholar to

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find information because Google
Scholars a lot harder to use

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than regular Google interface
and you would have to have the

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exact precise question asking in
order to find the right catalog

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for any sort of information for
a project.

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And that's kind of what is going
on now and how beneficial a I

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can be to you is how precise
your questions?

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I mean, I think whatever.
This is never going to be able

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to get the full length of them.
Oh yeah, we're going to I'm sure

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they are.
Well what, what you're going to

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see is I think that they're
going to look at the huge

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information houses that have
huge pools of data on all the

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history of something?
Whether it be, I mean, the New

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York Public Library or, you know
that, as you know, 10 million

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volumes backed up x amount of
time, Court data that you would

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get from either a Sister or
Westlaw that goes back to the

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1890s tax law, which goes back
to whenever tax happened from

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kluwer.
You know, that's in my space.

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But but but if you look at like,
you know, rules and regulations

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from NASA on flight or FAA or
patent and trademark, you go to

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the Patent, Trademark Office,
how far back is that information

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online that you can Target this
to ask a question.

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The way it'll ask question is it
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data in there and you have to
realize, like, how does it look

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through the data, you know,
exactly people say today that,

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you know, chat to be Tia, pull
it out of the box and it doesn't

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work.
It gives me wrong answers.

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And it's like no shit because
that's you have to truly have to

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train it.
In anything you have to train

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can be cheated.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

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I think that to see so and and
and from the commercial

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standpoint, a lot of people
don't Going to cheat.

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They want to just give you the
right answer.

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You know, I mean from my
perspective if I win we use it.

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We're looking to give you the
true.

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Correct.
Answer to what the law is, not

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what we want the law to be, you
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So those are that, that's what
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Kind of exciting about it is
because there's there's all

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these new nuances that are
coming in that are going to

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change, things that are just
like, wow.

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And here I am 63 and I started
this when I was like 26 27 and

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it's like Seeing how it's
changed through the years and to

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still be involved in.
It is, it's exciting and it

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makes me passionate, you know.
So yeah, it's excited for ya,

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about any sort of project.
I mean, it also is very

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interesting because you went
from retirement.

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No, you haven't.
I mean, I guess I finally, in

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the sense, I finally accepted
retirement.

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I finally started telling people
like January of this year after

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I left.
And what the hell is this 2023?

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I left and and December. 20/20
so 2122 those two years.

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We didn't really simply with
tired but I wasn't ready.

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I think we talked about this in
them so that they didn't

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necessarily you were like, I
don't like saying that I'm

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retired.
Does it make you feel lazy?

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Almost.
Yeah.

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Maybe that's useless.
Useless is a better word because

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I am my whole life it's always
been built on some new challenge

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and if it's not and and like six
months or nine months, Months

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ago, when I was with you, when I
first started doing this, I told

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you.
And I remember in a number of

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other Pi told him for the people
to that.

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I'm not going to get in this
field again.

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I you know I've done it I've you
did multiple different

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successful companies.
I've been involved in and sold

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them out, done that.
And and and I was like, I'm

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going to never gonna do this
again bla bla, bla bla.

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And here, the here I am, you
know, well, he was from bad

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experiences as well, but I don't
know General unhappiness with

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them, maybe too much.
Nature of what you were doing

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but abscess.
Yeah I was trying to the piano.

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Oh is that as well?
Other you're talking about your

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previous job.
I like that's weird.

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No no I really like that.
I mean I had a lot of good

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experiences there you know I
mean when you think about me

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because I'm quirky that that's
the company that I sold this the

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word for yeah that's a
reasonable.

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The first company that I sold a
company to was very autocratic,

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do it my way, and they had a
very specific idea.

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Of what they're going to do with
the company.

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There are monetize, everything
change everything to what they

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were and then make a ton of
money and they did.

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Yeah.
But that didn't fit into me

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working because I was like, I
don't want to be your, you know,

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the symbol monkey.
Yeah.

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Because it cautious typical and
in the last company was just

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like, screw that.
We want you to grow this under

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the brand that you're currently
at the way you want to is much

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as she can.
And I was just like, I mean,

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there certainly.
Caveats, from a big company,

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created duress road is this?
Yeah, I know it was, it was

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really weird.
They would allow us to do that

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but they were they they were
really good at that.

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They you know, they stuck their
finger in screwed with as a

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bunch of times.
But I feel for the for the

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majority of the time they just
but but also remember that we

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were punching out the numbers
like nothing.

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We were beating every quarter
every annual, every number that

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they threw at us.
So One thing is is that it's I

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always heard this from other
people as its everything's funny

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when you're making money, you
know?

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So like that old have to get out
but you miss a quarter, cut your

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sack off.
I mean, that's what happens, you

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know, that that's what they do
and you and you get time to to

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basically turn it around.
But and I've seen this in many

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companies have been acquired,
we're given a free rein and you

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know, they start, missing
quarters from 2nd 3rd quarter of

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acquisition And that's why they
get eaten alive immediately,

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unless that's the plan.
So when you start, when you

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start, well, I've been at it.
I've been with you for probably

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the company for a couple months,
you know sighs.

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I didn't realize your servings
and strategies as well.

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I mean most of what it is is
just like where do you want to

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be in a year two years isn't
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Something that you have to grow
super fast and whose competition

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out there.
Looking at the competition how

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big is the market Place where,
what is the natural progression

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of where you would point, this,
this software that you use at,

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you know, what are the variable
cost to go with that?

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One of the customers where they
want, you know, just in,

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basically, a lot of times it's
having someone there to ask you

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these questions, and most people
don't have that.

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And it's, you know, and I'm is
my old boss, Todd Hicks.

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Used to say, he said, you know,
if there's ever Question if

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there's ever read anybody to ask
a hard question hits you, you

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will, you will you will not let
anybody get away, and I don't do

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it.
I mean, maybe I'm an asshole but

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I don't try to be.
I just figure that if you're

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launching a new product or doing
something that if you, if you

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can answer all the hard
questions, then everything else

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is just going to fall into
place.

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Well then limiting failure to
has been something that's always

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been some part of your mind.
And it's like, why wouldn't you

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limit failure?
ER now where is dealing with

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every single thing that I'm not
going to ask you because I'm a

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nice guy and then you're gonna
have to deal with in the future.

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Anyway you know why wouldn't we
just do it now?

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I think that's all yeah, that's
what.

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Yeah, I your mojo, the first
part of your mojo.

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Oh yeah.
I remember the first company.

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They, they kept saying we're
just going to do it.

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The whatever company name way,
we're going to know the company

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name.
What?

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And I was just like, what's
that?

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What do you mean?
It's like, well, I tried it this

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way.
This way, this way, and it Well,

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I tried this and it didn't work.
I tried this and it didn't work.

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What are you going to do
different?

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We're gonna do it our way and I
go, what is our way?

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Can you actually tell me what?
What are the tactics?

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Nobody could and they did it in
the field so their way was

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running as root zone of times.
Yeah, Yeah, well yeah, you know,

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it turns into liquid Yeah
exactly.

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Well you know make they could
make promises because they were,

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you know, upper level
management.

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I was just someone sitting there
going like Sandy going to work.

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Yeah, the good old days.
So coming out I mean that's

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where I'm at and it's neat.
I mean, I look at some of the

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other things is travel plans.
I mean, they're kind of, they,

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they vape.
And I don't know if we talked

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about Australia and our last one
you did, I can't remember.

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Was not was usable.
Yeah before that I think we did

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an article right now.
We have to look back but yeah we

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have to go back and look because
that is what really we can touch

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on that.
How is that wife?

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And I went to Australia New
Zealand we you know we we lost

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four days because we got stuck
in a cyclone which is sort of

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like a cool story and I mean
when something like that happens

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but I'm stuck on the side of the
road and a little motor court

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for four days and you know, and
It taught me about adversity

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again that you know, when you're
driving down the road and you're

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using your your ways or your
Google Maps and whichever one

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works, if you don't have any
Internet you don't have a man.

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Yeah and if you don't have a map
you don't know where to go and

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then you go to the stores and
the stores have no power.

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So they're not open.
So then you don't have a map.

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You don't know where you go and
then you go to a gas station,

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you realized they don't they
work on power to oh, wow.

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How much cash you got?
So I mean it was just sort of

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like boom boom boom.
All these things.

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Just.
Yeah.

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And you're like, well, so what
kind of food do we have?

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You know, but it was just that
was a really, really cool like

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learning.
We met somebody from what was

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said, Copenhagen and we met some
people from Australia, where we

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met the new zealanders.
There's a bunch of different

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group of people there and it
were in the dark, the hotel

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lady.
Put brings all the meat.

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Eat out of her freezer and just
Cooks it all on a grill.

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And we all eat meat that night
all around a big table.

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That's pretty much.
What do we what kind of like

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sausages and burgers and lamb
chops?

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And just that stack of like, you
know, when it, when I traveled

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in Argentina, they would just
draw it all on a grill.

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They throw a huge conflagration
of meats and they put them in a

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pile of the word.
Keep switching bottom to top

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bottom to top, you know, it was
kind of cool citizens.

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Yeah, it was just like so much
fun to be doing that and

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everybody brought, you know,
somebody said wine and I ran

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across the street and went to
this place.

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I heard I heard them working in
there.

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They had a generator.
It was a bar there, trying to

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fix something.
And I said, can I buy something

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off the shelf?
And guy goes, no, no, we can't

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sell.
You can't sell ABC here, we'll

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lose our license and I'm like,
oh man, we're having, you know,

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okay, and I turn and he goes but
I can give you one and he grabs,

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one off the shelf and gives me a
bottle of wine.

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Whoa.
Wow, and I just stood there and

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I was just like, that's really,
really nice.

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You know what happened in the
u.s.?

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I wonder?
Maybe I don't know.

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And maybe that then I stopped
and I looked at him and I and

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all in the thing was like, for
the bartender.

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Was a tip jar, right?
Yeah.

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And I said, you can't sit, I
can't give any money.

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Goes no.
And I said, but I can tip you

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can.
I mean, I just dropped the

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money.
I dropped a bunch of money in

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the jar and he starts laughing
and I said, give it to somebody

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that works.
Here, if you don't want it you

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know it it's like that was that
and walked out the door and

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happy as a lark and went back
and had a bottle of wine and the

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neighbors had a couple of
six-packs of beer and a bottle

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of wine.
Somebody had a bottle of liquor,

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another one had about, I mean,
everybody had is Australia right

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now.
Yes, it was so no, no, we were

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in New Zealand though.
That was New Zealand at that

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point, okay?
I got ya.

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That was the New Zealand.
Cyclone it hit.

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We were actually like 10 miles
from where it hit, Bridges, got

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wiped out, everything it's just
very very sad stuff.

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If you know what, I think we
were driving by the the picture.

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And I try to paste this in your
mind and this is this is what

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moved me.
We're I'm driving, of course, I

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drove everywhere because we're
on the wrong side of the road

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left side.
Whatever it is.

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Take some getting used to and
we're driving by a church and

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the church is all messed up in
the side of it and there's a

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graveyard in the back.
And there's just there's like

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cow an easy-chair TV, all sorts
of stuff smashed all around.

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It's just covered with just
peoples and the stuff inside of

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their house is all over there.
Along with would bars.

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There's a gutter and there's a
ton of people there and they're

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crying.
Wow and you stop and I'm like, I

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got to take a picture of this is
the most moving picture and

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Valerie looks over at me and she
like touch Is my hand and she

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goes, I don't think we need to
take a picture of their misery.

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Whoa, there goes whoa, that and
I she's absolutely right.

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And but that you don't, you
don't think but it was like I'd

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I have that.
I have that picture.

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I have it, I have it right
there.

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I can read in your head, it was
wearing a blue jean jacket.

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She had what the heck?
She was, she had her sunglasses

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on for some reason and they were
around her neck and it was And

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there was there wasn't just one
person crying.

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There was more than one.
So it's like, it was very, you

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know, and they're a little kids.
There were just, and just passed

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them was the waterline had come
up and there were Graves that

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were under water.
So you couldn't even go to that.

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And there were houses that were
wiped out in their houses that

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were still full of water.
You know, you're driving down

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the road and you come to a
bridge and you just can't go

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across because the bridge is
gone.

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You know, so is very and we
drive through water and people

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helped us that go this way that
way, this way.

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It means really kind of you know
but it was a it was a great

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experience to know.
Yeah, I mean when you travel you

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learn right?
I mean I think it's for me

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that's an educational thing.
That's why I kind of travel a

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lot.
You know.

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I think about the new plans
coming up and we're going to go.

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I have fun.
A travel agent to do that.

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We're going to do, we look?
Yeah.

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What are your next?
What are the next ideas?

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I just I just hooked up with one
today.

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Next place is part 2 hey Nia and
Maddie and either Bolivia or

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Gazoo Olivia is gorgeous.
Yeah.

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I want to go to Salt Flats and
maybe a day or two there and run

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around and so flux in Bolivia.
Yeah.

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Oh is that we're all those like
reflected photos are from with

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like the clouds and the eye.
I mean that to me is just moving

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I would love to go to La Paz and
I think there's a mountain there

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that you climb and but I'm not I
don't have that physical ability

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to climb you know something
that's that hard.

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I'm how hard is rain.
But was it comparable to It's

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one and a half number, we did
Guatemala.

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Yeah, since we did Santorini
Sand Santa Maria.

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It is about Two times harder
than that.

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I really want.
That was shorter.

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It's like it's higher, the tire.
It's twice the height.

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Okay.
So the number one, number two,

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there's there's snow or there's
you need to do like oh yeah,

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yeah that or you gotta wear like
you got to be tied together

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because people fall into high.
Vertical is like crazy.

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I think I should.
Yeah, the verticals not.

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It's not it's no longer a walk
up, you know a place.

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So yeah.
The Santa Maria was born.

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You're risking Donald so that
it's a little different that was

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like not linear you know you
yeah.

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Yeah, you are those almost The
Climb was crazy.

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What?
I'm the?

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Santa Maria.
Yeah, no near Long Island.

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Some point and then coming down.
I was like why am I even though?

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I'm 18.
My knees are just like on fire

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scrambling.
Yeah.

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But what are your future plans?
You got going on taking care of

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your hair?
I think ah yeah I'm back in the

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gym.
I took a little 10-day break,

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but for the most part, I've been
doing it all the way and I think

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the whole idea of having a home
gem, if you can do it.

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It's very, very hard for me to
say first off, they don't have

447
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time because I can't do anything
second that you know once I

448
00:24:43,500 --> 00:24:47,000
actually physically get into it.
But Jim I all I got to do is

449
00:24:47,000 --> 00:24:53,800
lift one weight do one sit-up,
do one or two things on the

450
00:24:53,800 --> 00:24:58,700
rower and And I'm going to work
it out an hour or so, then I'm

451
00:24:58,708 --> 00:25:01,400
like, well I'm here I might as
well and then in the first thing

452
00:25:01,400 --> 00:25:03,200
I think it is like walk in and I
see in some of the things I

453
00:25:03,200 --> 00:25:07,700
started doing as I started
putting dates and times and then

454
00:25:07,700 --> 00:25:11,000
I write down my list of things
that I do and I you know, you've

455
00:25:11,000 --> 00:25:16,000
given me a bunch of workouts and
I try to do 10 exercises, three

456
00:25:16,000 --> 00:25:19,700
sets of each each set, 20, you
know.

457
00:25:19,800 --> 00:25:23,400
And you know the weights very
and you try to be more weight.

458
00:25:23,400 --> 00:25:27,100
And if I do, if I do 20 of one
and the Weights to light then I

459
00:25:27,200 --> 00:25:30,400
raised it go together and do it
again and do what you're at the

460
00:25:30,400 --> 00:25:32,500
dates down.
You do that to shame yourself

461
00:25:32,700 --> 00:25:35,300
almost well?
Now I want if I want to be I

462
00:25:35,300 --> 00:25:38,900
want to be cognizant of how
often I work out because, you

463
00:25:38,900 --> 00:25:41,900
know, I was of the mind.
It's really weird.

464
00:25:41,900 --> 00:25:44,900
I worked out April 10th.
I start writing all this down, I

465
00:25:44,908 --> 00:25:49,800
was working out for five days a
week and I worked out so April

466
00:25:49,800 --> 00:25:51,700
10th and then I was like, oh
yeah, I'm going to get to it.

467
00:25:52,100 --> 00:25:53,500
I'm gonna get to it.
I'm gonna get to it.

468
00:25:53,500 --> 00:25:56,200
I was just getting ready to go
to it and I was like, oh, Only

469
00:25:56,200 --> 00:25:57,700
been a week.
It's only been.

470
00:25:57,700 --> 00:26:00,200
It's been four days.
It's been six or seven days.

471
00:26:00,500 --> 00:26:03,200
No was 15 days.
Wow.

472
00:26:04,000 --> 00:26:07,800
So being able to look back and
say, oh, you haven't done this

473
00:26:07,800 --> 00:26:10,700
for like two weeks.
Open six months.

474
00:26:10,700 --> 00:26:14,600
Oh my gosh, yeah, yeah, that's
what I mean by having a gate

475
00:26:14,600 --> 00:26:19,900
there, it pushes you and it also
like you know, it's an

476
00:26:19,900 --> 00:26:22,300
interesting because I won't
remember I won't remember last

477
00:26:22,300 --> 00:26:25,000
time I did it and you don't need
you know, some people say

478
00:26:25,000 --> 00:26:27,500
schedule.
That was something else that

479
00:26:27,500 --> 00:26:29,700
came up.
When I was, I hooked up on this

480
00:26:30,000 --> 00:26:34,800
LinkedIn with this guy named
last name, ho, he's followed by,

481
00:26:34,800 --> 00:26:38,400
you know, hundreds of thousands
of people, and he's a fitness

482
00:26:38,400 --> 00:26:42,300
guy, and one of the things he
said is you should schedule your

483
00:26:42,300 --> 00:26:44,900
workout.
You should have a time, even in

484
00:26:44,900 --> 00:26:47,900
your own personal gym, just say,
you know, 8:00 Tuesday,

485
00:26:47,900 --> 00:26:51,400
Thursday, Sunday, whatever the
hell it is, just schedule it.

486
00:26:52,000 --> 00:26:55,900
And that way, you will have set
aside an hour to actually do it.

487
00:26:56,100 --> 00:26:59,600
Don't know if I believe that,
you know, well, I'm gonna be

488
00:26:59,600 --> 00:27:01,200
somebody feeling for me.
I don't know.

489
00:27:01,200 --> 00:27:02,700
I just need to get it.
Done or else.

490
00:27:02,700 --> 00:27:05,900
I will feel bad about myself,
like, I'm at that, but you don't

491
00:27:05,900 --> 00:27:09,100
know where it's like, I will, I
will feel physically ill if I

492
00:27:09,108 --> 00:27:12,900
don't work out because it's
like, if I said a schedule lame,

493
00:27:12,900 --> 00:27:15,200
I tell myself.
I'm going to go, I don't know,

494
00:27:15,200 --> 00:27:18,300
accomplish a goal.
Any goal for that matter during

495
00:27:18,300 --> 00:27:21,000
the day?
I would push it to the absolute

496
00:27:21,000 --> 00:27:24,400
end of the day until I
absolutely need to complete it.

497
00:27:24,700 --> 00:27:27,500
Where is like, if I just Feel as
if I need to do it or else I'll

498
00:27:27,500 --> 00:27:28,700
be.
Oh I'll get it done.

499
00:27:28,700 --> 00:27:31,500
First thing I'll be over like I
don't know when I schedule

500
00:27:31,500 --> 00:27:36,600
things about I just seems it
seems more distant it seems that

501
00:27:37,000 --> 00:27:38,800
but if I do you scheduled a not
time.

502
00:27:39,200 --> 00:27:42,700
Yeah, if I schedule I've I say I
had to do something today.

503
00:27:42,700 --> 00:27:45,700
Where is like if I schedule
weekly goals, I need to get

504
00:27:45,700 --> 00:27:48,300
these things done.
By the end of the week, I can do

505
00:27:48,300 --> 00:27:50,200
it.
Like it's strange daily.

506
00:27:50,200 --> 00:27:53,800
It doesn't work for me if I do
like a certain time or really.

507
00:27:53,900 --> 00:27:57,000
Yeah, I don't know what it is.
That if I say I'm gonna work, I

508
00:27:57,000 --> 00:28:00,000
mean six times this week, I got
to every week, I do it.

509
00:28:00,100 --> 00:28:04,500
Most Kira.
Most people have jobs, though.

510
00:28:04,600 --> 00:28:10,900
They, they what are they have?
They have a calendar that they

511
00:28:10,900 --> 00:28:13,200
have to abide by that meet
people and all these different

512
00:28:13,200 --> 00:28:14,100
times during throughout the
week.

513
00:28:14,100 --> 00:28:18,100
So yeah, that's the reason that
that meetings are different

514
00:28:18,200 --> 00:28:20,500
meanings.
I think you don't see meaning.

515
00:28:20,500 --> 00:28:23,600
Whether what he's really saying
is is like you take meetings you

516
00:28:23,600 --> 00:28:25,000
show up for meetings all the
time.

517
00:28:25,200 --> 00:28:28,100
I'm very punctual meetings you
never miss those meetings.

518
00:28:28,200 --> 00:28:31,200
So make a meeting with the gem
and make the me.

519
00:28:31,300 --> 00:28:34,400
Hang on this day in this day and
that's what it is is opposed to.

520
00:28:34,500 --> 00:28:38,000
But your you don't do that.
You don't have meetings upon

521
00:28:38,000 --> 00:28:40,700
meeting, you're really gonna get
a Monday morning, I apply for

522
00:28:40,700 --> 00:28:44,100
3,000 jobs.
I get I get to call backs and

523
00:28:44,100 --> 00:28:46,900
then I get one Cameo and I do
this and then I can.

524
00:28:46,908 --> 00:28:52,000
I get a job one out of, you
know, 9,000 or whatever process

525
00:28:52,000 --> 00:28:53,400
is.
Yeah, you know, I don't even

526
00:28:53,400 --> 00:28:56,600
schedule those my agent and I go
hey, anything, you got anything

527
00:28:56,600 --> 00:28:58,100
going?
What do you think, Wishin?

528
00:28:58,400 --> 00:29:03,500
And then I do this, and then I
go to, I Rehearse for acting.

529
00:29:03,500 --> 00:29:07,400
I and I just start and I tap my
friends and I do this, I do

530
00:29:07,400 --> 00:29:09,100
that.
You know what is my process?

531
00:29:09,200 --> 00:29:11,900
Because I don't even get any
like rehearsal as the goal.

532
00:29:11,900 --> 00:29:14,900
I see it as something that I
have to go to, like, it's not

533
00:29:14,900 --> 00:29:17,900
something on, it is a goal of
mine, like when I wake up and I

534
00:29:18,000 --> 00:29:21,900
look for work like every single
day, it's not a goal.

535
00:29:21,900 --> 00:29:25,300
It's something that I do, right,
I don't know, that's just ahead

536
00:29:25,300 --> 00:29:29,300
is weird, but it's not, it's
yeah, it's just it's a part of

537
00:29:29,300 --> 00:29:32,400
my life, right?
Yeah, it's not a goal.

538
00:29:32,400 --> 00:29:34,100
It's just something that I do
that.

539
00:29:34,400 --> 00:29:35,400
Hmm.
Yeah.

540
00:29:35,500 --> 00:29:37,100
Now that that's an interesting
way to put it.

541
00:29:37,100 --> 00:29:40,100
I never really thought about my
own work ethic like that but

542
00:29:40,600 --> 00:29:42,300
yeah, these are just things that
I do.

543
00:29:42,300 --> 00:29:45,200
Like, yeah, she being like
getting steps in right getting

544
00:29:45,200 --> 00:29:49,000
getting certain amounts of miles
per day and things like that.

545
00:29:49,000 --> 00:29:51,800
It's just something I do
something goal or things like

546
00:29:51,800 --> 00:29:55,400
that.
But we're running out of time

547
00:29:55,400 --> 00:29:57,700
here.
We got about eight minutes left.

548
00:29:57,700 --> 00:30:03,600
Mine's a goal, mine's a goal.
How many sudden I get to that or

549
00:30:03,600 --> 00:30:10,300
say for now?
No, I got let's see, eleven

550
00:30:10,300 --> 00:30:14,400
Thousand Eleven that believe.
How do you get this many steps?

551
00:30:15,500 --> 00:30:18,900
Because I worked out for an hour
and a half and then even I just

552
00:30:18,900 --> 00:30:20,800
walk around the gym.
Yeah, I'll make sense.

553
00:30:20,900 --> 00:30:23,200
No, no you I mean you see how I
exercise.

554
00:30:23,800 --> 00:30:26,400
Over and I do I do 20 curls,
right?

555
00:30:26,400 --> 00:30:30,700
Yeah, and then I Pace like, six
times around the garage, six is

556
00:30:30,708 --> 00:30:32,700
a modest number did.
Yeah.

557
00:30:32,700 --> 00:30:34,500
Okay.
And that's my, that's my rest.

558
00:30:34,500 --> 00:30:38,400
My rest is just moving.
This, what I do I'm just I'm

559
00:30:38,400 --> 00:30:43,400
like, you know, I'm the ADHD,
the A and it or though, whatever

560
00:30:43,400 --> 00:30:45,200
the hell it is, that makes you
move all the time.

561
00:30:45,200 --> 00:30:48,600
That's what I do.
I'm just constantly moving what

562
00:30:48,600 --> 00:30:51,700
you would think I'd be skinnier.
But shit, maybe it's because I

563
00:30:51,700 --> 00:30:54,900
consume so much crap.
Maybe that's what it is.

564
00:30:55,100 --> 00:30:58,200
What's like what I learned very
quickly is that it's a 95% diet.

565
00:30:58,200 --> 00:31:01,000
Whether you want to be bigger
and have larger muscles or you

566
00:31:01,000 --> 00:31:03,300
want to be skinnier, right?
It's all.

567
00:31:03,300 --> 00:31:05,800
It's like, Nia and really.
It's 98% diet.

568
00:31:05,800 --> 00:31:08,500
It's not even 95.
It's crazy working.

569
00:31:08,500 --> 00:31:12,200
I can only do so much also
longevity of your metabolism and

570
00:31:12,200 --> 00:31:17,300
maintain your metabolism is a
huge control spin genetics or

571
00:31:17,300 --> 00:31:18,900
just workin.
Yeah.

572
00:31:19,000 --> 00:31:21,300
The fourth more than this, we're
going to be say, you're going to

573
00:31:21,300 --> 00:31:24,300
be like one hot, dude.
When you're Older man.

574
00:31:24,300 --> 00:31:25,900
Me.
That's the goal.

575
00:31:25,900 --> 00:31:29,000
Yeah, you're welcome.
My goal is Rob Lowe.

576
00:31:30,500 --> 00:31:33,500
Oh my God, the Rob Lowe.
Let's sort of watching this

577
00:31:33,600 --> 00:31:36,400
Netflix series, but it's
terrible but I'm just like,

578
00:31:36,400 --> 00:31:38,400
yeah.
Looked at him and we have is he

579
00:31:38,400 --> 00:31:41,000
doing?
I was I was that man doing lots

580
00:31:41,000 --> 00:31:43,000
of sunscreen I think because
what do they say?

581
00:31:43,000 --> 00:31:46,600
It's like yeah, son is like the
number-one like a juror have

582
00:31:46,600 --> 00:31:50,700
anything other than like yeah, I
don't see any way he does.

583
00:31:50,700 --> 00:31:54,000
He does he gets 40 or something?
It's a be also.

584
00:31:54,000 --> 00:31:57,600
Does he stopped drugs and
alcohol?

585
00:31:57,900 --> 00:32:02,200
It like 24 25. 27 because it's
one him in Downey.

586
00:32:02,200 --> 00:32:04,600
Well, you would know better than
I hear you're watching it.

587
00:32:04,600 --> 00:32:08,300
I mean, he did is like, and and
you don't realize that how

588
00:32:08,300 --> 00:32:10,100
messed up.
I mean, that makes me messed up.

589
00:32:10,100 --> 00:32:12,400
I can see it in my skin and I
can see it in everything that I

590
00:32:12,408 --> 00:32:14,500
do.
I smoke cigars, I see the, you

591
00:32:14,500 --> 00:32:18,300
know, the all the, all the
marks, the yes money for doing

592
00:32:18,300 --> 00:32:23,300
that, you know, and it screws
with your health to your?

593
00:32:23,300 --> 00:32:25,100
No, no one's smoking a pack of
cigarettes.

594
00:32:25,100 --> 00:32:26,700
A day is running five miles
every day.

595
00:32:26,700 --> 00:32:29,800
Every day.
Now, whether 60 expert prostate,

596
00:32:29,900 --> 00:32:33,500
Gland at the age of 60, if
they're chain-smoking everyday.

597
00:32:33,500 --> 00:32:35,700
Uh, yes, it's just not
happening.

598
00:32:36,500 --> 00:32:42,500
My dad did last like 67.
He's five packs a day but Wow.

599
00:32:42,700 --> 00:32:46,100
How do people find a high smoke
that Lisa?

600
00:32:46,100 --> 00:32:48,100
It's crazy.
It is crazy.

601
00:32:48,100 --> 00:32:51,200
That's more of a.
So that's more inhaling like of

602
00:32:51,200 --> 00:32:54,600
cigarette than actual inhaling
of hair throughout the day and

603
00:32:54,600 --> 00:33:00,400
bring joy to mean, he was not He
was inhale everything.

604
00:33:04,200 --> 00:33:07,200
And you were like, how can you
even inhale at that point?

605
00:33:07,300 --> 00:33:09,500
Oh my God.
You know, when I smoke

606
00:33:09,500 --> 00:33:13,800
cigarettes, if I smoke more than
10 and add a get bronchitis, I

607
00:33:13,800 --> 00:33:18,100
was easily you just start the
next morning was just

608
00:33:18,100 --> 00:33:20,900
disgusting, you know?
And you smell.

609
00:33:20,900 --> 00:33:24,100
So hey that's really cool log
cabins in your mouth.

610
00:33:24,600 --> 00:33:26,400
Gosh.
Yeah but I think we're going to

611
00:33:26,400 --> 00:33:28,100
wrap up here.
We're running out of time on

612
00:33:28,100 --> 00:33:32,900
this new program but we love to
thank you guys for tuning in.

613
00:33:33,700 --> 00:33:36,300
And we will be far more
consistent now that we have

614
00:33:36,300 --> 00:33:39,200
solved.
These terrible issues that have

615
00:33:39,200 --> 00:33:42,300
been leaving us, defunct and
sad.

616
00:33:42,400 --> 00:33:45,300
So you have any going to find
out, right?

617
00:33:45,300 --> 00:33:47,200
Yeah, we're going to find out.
You have any words for the

618
00:33:47,200 --> 00:33:50,800
people?
Thank you, for still listening.

619
00:33:50,800 --> 00:33:52,400
Thank you for all the kind
thoughts.

620
00:33:52,400 --> 00:33:55,700
I get a lot of people that tell
me, you know, what they like

621
00:33:55,700 --> 00:33:58,600
about the show and what I need
to talk about and I greatly

622
00:33:58,600 --> 00:34:02,000
appreciate that and I greatly
appreciate the, you know,

623
00:34:02,700 --> 00:34:05,200
thoughts for Provement?
Anytime, send us emails, you

624
00:34:05,208 --> 00:34:07,900
got, you got my email, you got
the text that you can actually

625
00:34:07,900 --> 00:34:12,600
send it to our, my father record
of my father.com.

626
00:34:12,699 --> 00:34:16,000
I own that you, so you can, you
can comment right there and say,

627
00:34:16,000 --> 00:34:18,400
hey, piss off fat, man.
You know, you can do whatever

628
00:34:18,400 --> 00:34:20,500
you want.
I know I'll be writing that as

629
00:34:20,500 --> 00:34:23,500
soon as this episode is up.
All right, right?

630
00:34:23,500 --> 00:34:24,800
See you later fat, man.