Dec. 26, 2023

Season's Greetings

Season's Greetings

In this episode we mull over holiday intricacies. What is your current stance on holiday cards? What is your current stance on the Aristotelian theme of contemplation? Let us know after you listen to this week's episode of A Record of My Father.

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Welcome back to another episode
of a record of my father coming

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to you.
Now I'm not blurry anymore,

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which is nice.
I think that it's a it's a

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better that you can see the
microphone that I'm talking to.

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How are you doing?
How are you doing over there?

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Who?
Are you talking to me?

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Yeah, I think so.
Oh.

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OK Oh, I'm doing good.
I'm doing great.

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We were we were talking about
what, what, what, what kind of

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topics we cover.
We said, yeah, what about

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Christmas cards?
And then we immediately got in a

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fight over that.
And then when we talk about

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Christmas ornaments and it's
like, what are you going to do

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with Christmas ornaments over
time and little things like

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that, I think it is, it is the
holidays.

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So we should talk about, you
know, the the happiness and the

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holidays.
And I kind.

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Of like the.
I kind of like the idea of

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starting with something like
that and just, you know,

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meandering through life because
that's kind of what we do.

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We have so many Christmas
ornaments too.

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If I remember all those ones
that I made when I was when I

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was a kid from preschool on, I
remember there was that, what

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was that guy the the snowman
made out of like socks or

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something with the right you
made.

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All that stuff that we had a
key.

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We still have it too.
No, I set it on fire.

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Oh, you did?
I was thinking about it.

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I think that'd be pretty cool.
But.

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And when you come back, yeah,
that's what we I guess we could

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set up the tree when I'm back
because I'm back on the what is

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it the 15th?
Yeah.

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Yeah, so.
Yeah, we'll do that.

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We could do that.
We we got rid of the big one, We

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now have just a small one.
You just wait.

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You got rid of the big one, the
one that was falling.

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Apart one that was falling
apart.

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We gave that away.
Nah.

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Yeah, but it really.
Wasn't falling apart, it was

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still a three-part.
It was just a pain to bring

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downstairs and set up and it and
it was you know an 8 foot tree

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or 7 foot or whatever, six.
I you know, it was a tall tree.

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It held a million ornaments.
We would, I would bring

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everything down.
She would put it all on.

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She would get tired of it by
like the 26th and and be like,

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let's take it down.
I always had a dream of just

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leaving it up all year and so we
never had to bring it down.

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I thought that that was always
my.

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Well, that would be fine.
Exactly.

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But it took a corner of the room
that we have, like certain

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things that were in that corner
that got covered.

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But nothing's been there in
years, right?

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I don't think that.
No, we have, we have a the like

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a fan, the fan.
What's that thing that you get

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behind?
Put your clothes on.

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Oh, the.
I know what you're talking

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about.
What is that called?

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I forget.
It's like a screen, right?

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Is that is that?
A screen the.

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Yeah, the Chinese screen, yeah,
yeah.

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Yeah, that's what I was
thinking.

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About really a screen though,
It's like a.

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Well, yeah, you can.
You can get dressed behind it.

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That's what people do.
You get dressed.

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Behind a lot of things.
No, no.

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But when him and her and I got
married, she was in a one

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bedroom and in the bedroom that
sort of like cordoned off an

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area where you would go there to
get dressed.

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So if you had any type of like
whatever, you know, you you it,

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it just sort of, it gives you
this modicum of I wake up in the

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morning and I, you know, and I
come out of the shower and I

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don't want some weird dude that
I'm getting married to staring

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at me or vice versa, you know?
You know you get you.

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It's a certain amount of
modesty, I guess.

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Is that different?
You know how?

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Dare you?
How dare you be modest?

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You being modest when is this
but.

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Yeah, I know that's that's
really messed up.

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No.
Have you thrown any of the

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ornaments away or do we still
have?

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No, I think, I think that we're
we're getting to that point and

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it's funny we.
Talk about ornaments, yeah.

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There's certain things that
happen around this time that,

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you know, probably there's
there's always something like

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everybody has to do.
They sometimes do Christmas

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letters or they do Christmas
cards, or they do pic or they do

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cards with pictures, or they buy
just cards or they send

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electronic cards or they send
out notices and say we're not

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sending anything, we're just
going to donate a, you know,

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$100 to the Red Cross or
whatever the case.

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So there's like all these
different ways, you know, and

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I've and in being in business in
345 successive companies, this

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was one of the things that I
helped decide.

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So you know, how do we, how do
we reach out to our customers at

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the holiday time and say blah,
blah, blah.

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And it's like now I'm at home.
So it's how do you reach out to

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your customers, which are your
friends and family and all them.

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I I do that and I have a lot of
the people that I work with.

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I used to send cards to too, you
know, over the years because we

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kind of follow each other from
place to place, but it's and

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it's somewhat important for me.
And it was never, I mean she

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really didn't care, you know,
she's like why are you, you

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know, you you cut down a tree to
mail something to someone that

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says you care for them once a
year and you you care enough to

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put their name on the envelope
and then you don't even have

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care that much.
You actually have them all pre

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printed, so you don't care
except to sign your name and

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send it.
My thing is, like, well, as you

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talk to these people once a year
and then it's always like, oh,

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we're going to get together at
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We're going to do something and
then you never do.

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And then it's just kind of this
hospitality that's not real.

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It's not a real hospitality
thing.

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It's.
It's an invitation, yeah.

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That you can, you can capitalize
on in any year you wish.

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That's what I think.
Well, to me, it's always that

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idea that it's kind of like
you're going to do something

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nice for somebody.
Like, you offer it, but in your

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mind, you would hope that they
were nice enough to understand

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that you really don't want to do
it right.

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So then, like, they don't take
you up on your offer, right?

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But when they do accept your
offer, sometimes you're like,

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how motherfucker?
Like, why do they, why do they

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accept my offer?
To be nice to them?

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I don't know.
You.

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You.
You know, but over over time you

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know when in life you you look
around and you start to realize

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that those are how you build
long term relationships.

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I mean, those are the people
that that.

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Long term relationships, they
mean nothing.

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Yeah.
No, I understand that.

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Well, I don't know.
If they mean nothing.

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A lot of them do.
I mean, if you're sending

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Christmas cards to 300.
People.

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Yeah, yeah.
I I think a fair amount of them

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are are are just sort of like
keeping a some communication

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link open between relatives that
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I mean I have most of my
relatives are distant.

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I'm not real close to any, a few
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I mean my not my immediate
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family and then a little bit of
the extended family.

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But beyond that, it's just, you
know, if you're out of state,

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you're out of mind pretty much,
you know and some people in

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state out of mind.
You know, it's like you don't,

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you know, the best you get is,
you know a like on Facebook, you

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know.
So it's a very it's it's you

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know, I think.
It's the way it.

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Is I.
Was just going to say that I

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would read the the paragraphs
that people write about what

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they did in a year and I was
just like oh please no, wait, I

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don't know what that is.
Well, your.

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Mother feels the same way.
It's just this braggado show

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thing of what I've done and da
da, da, da, da da.

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And then there's other people
that are laid down 37 ailments

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that they they had.
I broke my toe then.

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My ankle got tripped, then my
wife fired me and then I got

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fired from my job and now I'm in
the gutter and I'm hammered.

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Knocking fires in Hawaii?
That's not good, That's.

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The That's the worst.
Yeah, that's not good.

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But yeah, and it always seemed
like a piece of narcissism

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written down.
Let's just.

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Well, you're talking to the
biggest narcissist you've ever

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met, so that's true.
And that's why we're always

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going to have different
opinions, I think, on that, Yes.

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Well, that's fine.
You have a Christmas card, I'm

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OK with.
Are you sending one out this

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You're?
Wrong and I'm right.

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'Cause I remember you sent one
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Was it last year or two years
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And I was it was just the worst
photo of us.

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I'm like, this is supposed to
make us look good.

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It's it's kind of you're doing
the opposite when it makes us

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look bad.
I didn't care.

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I think see, I think the thing.
Is is that you guys were you

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don't want to look bad and me, I
kind of almost think that's

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funny.
Yeah, that I guess that is, you

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know.
Yeah, yeah.

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I mean, it's like, you know,
everybody else is sending out

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that great Christmas picture.
And here's the Browns.

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You know Phil's got his mouth
open with with crap in his

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teeth.
Zach's over there looking off in

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the distance going like, wow,
why am I here?

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And and the wife's, of course,
is she's Hiccuppy.

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You know, there was some guy
that pulled out that the photo

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from them and they're like, wow,
they look like shit, God.

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I know.
But I made that guy's weak.

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He's like, you know, this makes
me feel better because the

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picture we sent out, you know, I
didn't think it was that great.

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But now you know, when I see the
Browns, it's just so.

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So what I did is I I made a lot
of people feel good that year.

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And that that's pretty funny,
isn't?

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That kind of different.
That's pretty funny.

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I like that.
I mean, kind of.

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What's a?
Shitty photo you got that's.

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In the giving spirit, yeah, it
definitely is.

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Yeah, that's that's fun.
Yeah, think about it.

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I mean it, You know, this is a
this is a time of year when when

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people that are alone are really
alone.

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Yeah.
When it's more acknowledged,

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yeah.
When you see all these people,

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yeah, not surrounded by their
family.

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Sadness comes out of the
woodwork, you know?

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Oh yeah, like you know it.
Either happiness or sadness,

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depending upon what you are.
It gets accentuated around this

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time.
I mean, my mother was always

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like, what do?
You mean by sad?

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A time of year?
Well, that's when her mother

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died, and that's when her
grandfather died and I.

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Think there was.
Yeah, there was a couple, two or

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three people that dropped dead
right in like the twenty 20th to

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the 27th, you know, So it's
like, hey, if you're going to

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die, can you try not to die
around Christmas 'cause that's

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when everybody dies In the Brown
family, you do it.

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You do it after after Christmas
maybe?

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Do it after.
Do it in our January.

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No one gives a crap about
January.

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There's no holidays, You know?
You can go ahead and die then.

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Then everybody gets up and then
they get off a Friday to go to

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your funeral.
You know, that's kind of cool.

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When's the right time to dine?
Maybe that that'll be a good.

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Title for the Well, it was going
to be a little bit about

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Christmas, you know?
And I was looking at some of the

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Christmas photos and it's like.
I got an idea.

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Christmas question mark, right
time to dine, question mark.

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I think that's oh God, that's a
great.

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When is the When is the right
time to die?

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I've got I was doing it.
I was doing a hike today.

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Whenever you're and I brought.
That up.

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And I brought that up.
No, no, I brought that up.

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With a bunch of people.
Yeah.

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And I was just like, OK, so
you're you're as you get older

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you start to like realize that,
you know I have less years left

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than I've spent by like a long
shot, you know.

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And and realistically at what
point do you as a person say

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it's time and do you, do you, do
you like if you have dementia

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like that kind of runs in my
family.

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So I'm going to be a pudding
head.

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So from that perspective that
makes me say that you will have

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to change me or Valerie will
have to change me.

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You will have to, you will have
to become in charge of me,

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right.
You will be like I will now have

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to think for my father who's
never even let me think at all

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or finish a sentence in his
lifetime.

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So.
So when you think that through

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and be like Oh my God and see I
you know the reason I I'm so on

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this because my mother died that
way and it was it was just it

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was ugly.
It was horrible to watch to

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watch somebody go through the
you know I think it was like 5

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years of dementia before she
died.

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It was just.
What's the I thought she had

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Alzheimer's.
Alzheimer's.

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Yeah.
Alzheimer's.

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Dementia.
They're kind of.

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You know, they're almost
synonymous.

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Slowly your slowly your mind
goes away and you know you see

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it and there's there's some
comical stuff in the beginning

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and you can make fun of it and
laugh about it.

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I mean, we did.
That and we kind of happens.

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You're gonna have to laugh at it
and or else you're not gonna

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sadness be able to Pierce
through the other side.

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Right.
I was talking about that, 'cause

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I said every, every, every
Sunday morning, My brother,

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who's no longer with us and I
and you and and my mother, we

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pick her up at the Oak Oakton
Center like the they they had,

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they had an Alzheimer's center
there.

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We.
Pick her up.

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It's 7:30 in the morning on a
Sunday.

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Valerie was still asleep.
The wife was happy because I

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took the little scrawling brat
with me.

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Right.
That would be you.

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At that time I would throw.
You three or something.

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No, you weren't even one.
I'd stick you in the back of the

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Ford Explorer and I'd hop in.
I'd drive off, and then I'd meet

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Seth there, right?
We'd pick up my can he meet me

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at the home?
Because it was.

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It was halfway between our
houses.

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She was over in Oakton.
And because that's why it was

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called Oakton Brilliant.
Anyway, naming was not there.

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Forte Sunrise.
The Oakton Sunrise.

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Anyway, I would then we'd pick
her up and then drive down 66

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and go to Haynes Point and we
get a six pack of Bush tall boys

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at 711 on the way before we even
hit 66.

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Then we drive in to the golf
course.

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We parked there.
We'd be there like 815, and we

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popped the first round of beers
and my mother would like, we

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look at her and we go, what do
you say?

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And she goes head for the
mountains, which is the, you

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know, when you hear the Bush,
head for the mountains, that's

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the that's the whole moniker.
But we would do this Sunday,

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every Sunday morning.
And the Bush, Bush, tall boys,

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one morning you were screaming
and you know you were awake and

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you're in the back seat, 'cause
she sat in the back seat with

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you sets that in the front seat
with me.

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Yeah.
And you were screaming.

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And she was going quiet, be
quiet, quiet.

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And then you went quiet.
And then I looked back, and she

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had her hand over your mouth and
your nose, and she was holding

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them, making you be quiet.
Oh my God.

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I don't think she realized that
she was killing you, but I did.

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So I thought, like, well, this
is not going to be good for

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Valerie.
She's really going to be upset

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if I brought her.
Home a dead baby.

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And then I don't know how to
explain that.

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And so that's like, what's the
problem?

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And I'm like, I I pulled over on
66, like within 3 seconds I

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nailed the brakes, 'cause I'm
freaked out, 'cause if she, I

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don't know how long you can go
without oxygen at at six months,

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OK, But it wasn't very long.
Anyway, I jumped out, jumped in

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the back car, and then I, you
know, said no, you can't do

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that.
Yeah, but he's quiet.

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I mean, she did a crime.
That's when she meant it.

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She's right.
She dot.

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She did, she did.
It was that.

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But well, The funny thing is is
brought her in the front seat,

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Seth in the back seat, and then
you stopped crying.

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Then Seth did the same thing.
That.

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That's probably right.
He's probably sitting over there

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going like, quiet.
I'll, I'll do what she did.

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You're like, OK, I can't do
that.

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That wouldn't be good.
No, it wouldn't be good.

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Yeah.
Yeah.

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But I I just, I I was talking to
them about that like so who do

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you leave that to?
And then the problem is is it

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like OK, I'm I'm, I'm what I am.
I have dementia.

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I have Alzheimer's at what
point?

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I mean I don't want to be
around.

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I don't want you to experience
what I experienced.

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I've heard people say when, in
particular that the test of

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humanity is watching your
parents die, that's.

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Supposed to be a humbling
experience, right?

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Yeah.
And I don't know.

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God it.
It is.

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It is because if you, if you
think about it, I changed you

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when you were this big, whatever
it is to about this big, and now

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you will be doing that to me.
What do you mean by test of

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humanity?
What do you what do you mean?

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What is your definition?
I don't really know because

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that's what the he said it, he
said.

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It's like it it it it, it gives
you when your parents die.

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That gives you a sense of that
life is not infinite anymore

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seems.
A little arbitrary, I don't know

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to make somebody suffer well.
It does.

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Because if you're buying,
parents die and like, they're

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seven and mine died in their 70s
and I think my fat dad was late

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60s.
Anyway, when they die, it's

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like, well, that's that's the
low bar on how long I'm gonna

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live, right?
Yeah, you measure your life by

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that.
Cause it's hereditary.

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Yeah.
You know, I mean, if I die

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tomorrow, you'd be like, you'd
be thinking like, well, I got

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till I'm 64, unless I'm really
stupid and he was pretty stupid

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and he abused himself bad.
So if I don't, you know, if I

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don't drink 900 quarts of
bourbon between now and the end

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of the week and I don't shoot
heroin and I don't do all this

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other bad stuff, I'll be fine.
Exactly.

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Yeah, yeah.
Yeah.

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You know, I think.
That's how people mention their

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lives a lot of the time.
Because they I think it was

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eating the goat balls.
That's probably the worst, but

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that's.
Probably enhanced your life.

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Yeah, that and the puffer.
Fish the puffer fish.

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Yeah, I kissed a lot of puffer
fish.

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You're not supposed to do that.
What are they?

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What are the puffer fish tasted?
I did.

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You eat it?
It's just sushi.

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They cut it up and they put it
in and it's raw fish and to me

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fish.
Tastes different.

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Though it all tastes the same
that.

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Doesn't make it.
You smoke a cigar, It doesn't

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matter.
Well, that's like so it doesn't

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matter.
Give me 6 bourbons and you know

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what it might as well be.
So you're saying salmon tastes

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the same as cod?
Is that what you're saying?

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No, that's.
Different.

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You have a light fish and a dark
fish, right?

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Or a Or a heavier fish.
Well, whitefish.

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Yeah, whatever.
Not Whitefish.

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I mean, to be honest, to be
perfectly honest, I don't

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remember.
Yeah, I don't remember.

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I just remember we got sushi, we
sat at a place, we ate it and we

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said we wanted that and they put
it on there somewhere.

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And it was in a line of things.
And I didn't know Japanese and

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they didn't know English.
So you.

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Didn't know Japanese.
Stuff.

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No, I don't.
I mean, I know Japanese people,

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but I don't.
And I guess I don't really know

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them.
I kind of.

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I mean acquaintances.
But other than that, yeah.

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But hey, wow.
Wow, very, very cool.

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Time.
This is.

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This was the We're going to talk
about Christmas ornaments,

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right?
Why didn't you go down to Haines

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Point specifically?
We went there because Seth,

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well, it's kind of strange.
Seth mentioned that, that it's a

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neat place to go to, to just sit
out.

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And we would just sit out on the
park bench there, 'cause there's

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park benches all the way around.
And at that time there was a

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statue of, I can't remember, it
was like, what's the the king of

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the underwater like, Nemo?
Yeah, I think it's reaching for

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the sky.
And they called it something or

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other.
It's really, really, really

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cool.
And he has a Poseidon 3 Pronger

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thing and had the the thing and
tried it and it was like statue

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was like 25 feet high.
It was big.

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Why do you?
Get rid of it.

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That's.
Nice.

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I I just they moved it somewhere
else.

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I don't know.
You know maybe it was because it

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was against it was enhancing.
He was a bad fish person.

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I don't freaking know somebody.
Yeah, you don't want bad fish

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guys.
Bad fish guys around, Yeah.

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Oh, but that's what So you went
down there for the statue Is

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everything.
I I mean, I like that, but also

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it was very, very, it was very
defined you you you get out on

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66, you go.
All the way on. 66 to the end,

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you you come down. 14th.
No, no, you, you, you go to 66

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to 395, hop off at 395 at the
little swoopy swoop and you

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swoop down and around and you're
there.

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And it was just like, it was a
neat place and he just mentioned

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it and you know, he didn't go
into the city as much as I did.

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But.
And I was like, I knew exactly

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where it was.
I was like, yeah, that's cool.

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Let's go there.
And and The thing is, is you

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drive for a little bit with her
and that was good.

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And then you walk for a little
bit with her and then you and

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then you sit with a little bit
and then you drive back and it's

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like, yeah, it was like there
was measured amounts of time.

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Yeah, you would you you had to
keep her engaged.

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Otherwise it just you go, you go
all you know.

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Yeah, 'cause if you're in the
home and you're doing that,

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that's one needs to not a new
place, right?

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And it's not very enjoyable.
Yeah, well, there's a whole lot

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of people there and you know,
they chase you when they're

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naked and, you know, there's
things like that.

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Yeah.
You know, there's a lot of.

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I understand that completely.
I could definitely see how you

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do.
You're getting here many.

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Times have you been chased by a
naked 80 year old woman.

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No, I have AI have friends that
have a people going through

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dementia right now.
So, yeah, I've heard the story.

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Maybe I don't understand it.
I've heard of it though.

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I guess understanding of it.
Right.

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So I you know what I will never
understand.

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That's funny.
I will never understand until it

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happens to me.
So I can imagine what it is like

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to understand, right.
But I will never you.

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You you look at it and you're
saying, OK, but we we got into

448
00:20:44,760 --> 00:20:46,240
the conversation, it's like,
what do you want?

449
00:20:46,240 --> 00:20:48,800
What do you want to do?
It's like, take care of me.

450
00:20:48,960 --> 00:20:52,160
For how long?
At what point do you want to be

451
00:20:52,160 --> 00:20:57,160
thrown into a little home where
some third party is changing

452
00:20:57,160 --> 00:20:58,640
your underwear?
Yeah.

453
00:20:58,640 --> 00:21:02,440
Washing you and being your this
person you've never met that's

454
00:21:02,440 --> 00:21:05,480
making 15 bucks an hour is now
your keeper?

455
00:21:05,480 --> 00:21:06,080
Yeah.
Exactly.

456
00:21:06,520 --> 00:21:08,360
That's and you're in.
You're in a little, you're in a

457
00:21:08,360 --> 00:21:11,440
12 by 12 room with a little
single bed and and you have your

458
00:21:11,440 --> 00:21:15,080
little dresser and that's it.
And that's like 6 grand a month.

459
00:21:15,400 --> 00:21:17,120
It's not cheap.
It's crazy.

460
00:21:17,120 --> 00:21:18,960
What is the?
What is the place called?

461
00:21:21,000 --> 00:21:23,280
It's a place called.
What the The center.

462
00:21:23,680 --> 00:21:26,200
Because this isn't.
That a base, that one was that

463
00:21:26,200 --> 00:21:27,720
was Sunrise.
Sunrise.

464
00:21:27,720 --> 00:21:28,640
That's what I'm thinking about,
right?

465
00:21:28,640 --> 00:21:30,760
There we go.
That was sunrise and it was the

466
00:21:31,000 --> 00:21:34,560
sunrise Alzheimer's center or
something like that and.

467
00:21:34,760 --> 00:21:37,240
Specifically for Alzheimer's.
Yeah, this was.

468
00:21:38,480 --> 00:21:41,200
So you, you, you.
Ran the gambit quadrants.

469
00:21:41,240 --> 00:21:44,040
Or whatever.
This is where you really, really

470
00:21:44,040 --> 00:21:47,000
find out how much longer women
lived in men, because all the

471
00:21:47,000 --> 00:21:48,640
guys just dropped like flies in
there.

472
00:21:48,640 --> 00:21:50,840
Oh, yeah, yeah, they're all,
yeah, they're all dead in the

473
00:21:50,840 --> 00:21:57,040
early, like in the early 70s.
The women, yeah, it was like 5

474
00:21:57,040 --> 00:22:02,560
to 1, you know, and to women.
Well, this time I wonder if that

475
00:22:02,560 --> 00:22:05,640
had anything to do with the the
post traumatic stress disorder

476
00:22:05,800 --> 00:22:08,640
that was World War 2, right?
Because these people probably

477
00:22:08,640 --> 00:22:11,280
had that age.
Yeah.

478
00:22:11,600 --> 00:22:12,960
Oh, they're all War 2.
They're all.

479
00:22:13,000 --> 00:22:14,160
They're all better kind of
stuff.

480
00:22:15,040 --> 00:22:16,400
Yeah, yeah.
Yeah.

481
00:22:16,400 --> 00:22:18,120
A little different.
Yeah, that's true.

482
00:22:18,280 --> 00:22:19,960
Yeah.
That's why I think you know

483
00:22:19,960 --> 00:22:22,120
longevity has.
Miraculous when it was a

484
00:22:22,120 --> 00:22:26,080
different, a different thing
that women were at home and now

485
00:22:26,080 --> 00:22:27,800
they're, you know, they're much
more.

486
00:22:28,400 --> 00:22:31,440
They have to do everything now.
Yeah, they used to just have the

487
00:22:31,440 --> 00:22:32,880
kids.
Now they have to have the kids

488
00:22:32,880 --> 00:22:35,600
and make the money and and make
sure the house.

489
00:22:35,680 --> 00:22:38,400
And you know, job switching.
Yeah, well, that's see.

490
00:22:38,400 --> 00:22:42,680
But that's what my mom did.
So you know, she did everything.

491
00:22:42,680 --> 00:22:43,920
She.
Did she?

492
00:22:43,920 --> 00:22:48,520
Definitely did, but what you?
Going to do with Christmas.

493
00:22:48,800 --> 00:22:53,040
Well we we were trying to come
to a thing is like so do you do

494
00:22:53,040 --> 00:22:55,440
you write out a contract that
says what you're going to do,

495
00:22:55,440 --> 00:22:58,480
how you're going to do it.
Do you you know And then it's

496
00:22:58,480 --> 00:23:01,680
like if you impose this on your
family then all of a sudden you

497
00:23:01,720 --> 00:23:04,880
you know you're the one that
your last vision of me is yeah

498
00:23:04,880 --> 00:23:07,000
my dad was walking away and I
hit one in the back of the head

499
00:23:07,000 --> 00:23:08,560
with a ball peeing hammer and
he.

500
00:23:08,560 --> 00:23:12,880
But he said it was OK and it's
like well yeah that's why I've.

501
00:23:12,960 --> 00:23:16,720
Always liked the Cavorkian
thing, Yeah, yeah.

502
00:23:16,720 --> 00:23:19,240
And he always did it with in an
ethical way.

503
00:23:19,800 --> 00:23:21,560
And I thought that that was see.
I think that's.

504
00:23:21,720 --> 00:23:24,600
I think that's a lot better.
I I think that's a lot better

505
00:23:24,600 --> 00:23:26,320
because.
I I just don't have that in the

506
00:23:26,360 --> 00:23:29,160
US.
Yeah, well, we we kind of do an

507
00:23:29,240 --> 00:23:34,000
Oregon, I think it's an Oregon.
They also where was it?

508
00:23:34,240 --> 00:23:37,440
I I think it was in Washington
state.

509
00:23:37,440 --> 00:23:38,000
Yeah, that's.
Right.

510
00:23:38,000 --> 00:23:39,640
I think it maybe it might be
both actually.

511
00:23:41,000 --> 00:23:42,400
Where together?
Sweden.

512
00:23:43,000 --> 00:23:45,760
Sweden.
Yeah, Sweden has actually Your

513
00:23:45,760 --> 00:23:48,280
own private gas chamber.
Yeah, yeah, That's.

514
00:23:49,480 --> 00:23:52,920
Pretty good in it.
They they you cut you you you

515
00:23:52,920 --> 00:23:54,520
cut it on.
It's like the Abe I.

516
00:23:54,960 --> 00:23:58,520
Was about to say that The
Simpsons reference, but it's

517
00:23:58,560 --> 00:24:00,880
it's very hot.
Yeah, it's it's, yeah.

518
00:24:00,880 --> 00:24:04,200
It's what you get buried in,
though, So it's all it's a it's

519
00:24:04,200 --> 00:24:06,000
a single unit.
You get in it.

520
00:24:06,800 --> 00:24:08,800
You die and they throw the damn
thing in the ground.

521
00:24:08,800 --> 00:24:09,800
You're done.
I wonder what?

522
00:24:09,800 --> 00:24:13,400
That guy was like the mate
designed, you know, like, that's

523
00:24:13,440 --> 00:24:15,400
such an odd job to design
something.

524
00:24:15,560 --> 00:24:18,840
Well, if you think about it,
it's like everybody you you've

525
00:24:18,840 --> 00:24:23,080
got a hugely aging population.
So Oh yeah, we're all gonna face

526
00:24:23,080 --> 00:24:24,400
this.
Oh, definitely.

527
00:24:25,040 --> 00:24:26,800
I mean, everybody will
individually, yeah.

528
00:24:26,920 --> 00:24:30,640
And when you think about what's
gonna happen coming forward, the

529
00:24:30,800 --> 00:24:35,520
healthcare industry, the amount
of stuff that they do for us now

530
00:24:36,680 --> 00:24:40,680
is going to, with the population
aging, is going to triple,

531
00:24:41,120 --> 00:24:43,880
quadruple.
And you think that they're all

532
00:24:43,880 --> 00:24:47,440
right now, it's three months.
It's three months to get an

533
00:24:47,440 --> 00:24:50,840
appointment with somebody to
actually do something.

534
00:24:50,840 --> 00:24:54,320
You get, you get one out, you
get one out. 8 to 12 weeks is to

535
00:24:54,360 --> 00:24:56,680
actually go there.
And then they see whether or not

536
00:24:56,680 --> 00:24:58,360
you need to.
That's the consultation.

537
00:24:58,680 --> 00:25:00,920
And then you get the actual
appointment 12 weeks later.

538
00:25:01,480 --> 00:25:03,960
And so you're like, OK, so
you're waiting this long and

539
00:25:03,960 --> 00:25:07,800
it's like, well, what happens
when there's, you know, you

540
00:25:07,800 --> 00:25:11,240
know, 50 or 100 million more
people doing this across the

541
00:25:11,240 --> 00:25:13,760
country?
All of a sudden, healthcare

542
00:25:13,760 --> 00:25:15,840
prices are going to go up,
Everything's going to, it's

543
00:25:15,840 --> 00:25:20,240
going to continue to skyrocket.
And then you guys are going to

544
00:25:20,240 --> 00:25:21,680
be like, well, I don't want to
be a doctor.

545
00:25:21,680 --> 00:25:23,360
This is crazy.
I don't want to take care of

546
00:25:23,360 --> 00:25:25,240
these people.
You know, all of them die

547
00:25:25,240 --> 00:25:28,920
because we're all at that.
You know, a huge 100 billion

548
00:25:29,080 --> 00:25:32,240
people.
Yeah, 100 billion people.

549
00:25:32,240 --> 00:25:35,400
By 2050, a 100 million, it's
supposed to be a lot.

550
00:25:35,400 --> 00:25:39,120
It's supposed to be upwards of
like 60 to 70 billion by 20.

551
00:25:39,400 --> 00:25:42,320
We only have like there's
there's 12 billion people.

552
00:25:42,320 --> 00:25:46,600
With the birth rate now is the
projections are crazy and that

553
00:25:46,600 --> 00:25:48,320
ample technology that we've been
using.

554
00:25:49,160 --> 00:25:51,440
I can pull up the, I'll link it
but.

555
00:25:52,120 --> 00:25:54,320
It's crazy.
The what we're going to see.

556
00:25:55,320 --> 00:25:57,920
Well, I'm just thinking that
that the majority of the

557
00:25:57,920 --> 00:26:02,280
population is old and they're
moving into old age and we're

558
00:26:02,280 --> 00:26:05,000
doing more and more to lengthen
their lives.

559
00:26:05,880 --> 00:26:10,880
So.
So they will be more and more D

560
00:26:10,880 --> 00:26:12,640
you know, they won't be able to
handle themselves.

561
00:26:13,400 --> 00:26:17,400
So there's going to be a huge
demand on all of the services

562
00:26:17,400 --> 00:26:19,840
like home aids, health aids, all
that kind.

563
00:26:19,840 --> 00:26:21,280
Of stuff like that, without a
doubt.

564
00:26:21,520 --> 00:26:24,880
And it's like and any anything
there that can be automated will

565
00:26:24,880 --> 00:26:26,400
be automated.
Anything there that you have,

566
00:26:26,400 --> 00:26:28,680
you got an idea and you can
think about how to help old

567
00:26:28,680 --> 00:26:30,560
people.
That's going to be and I'm

568
00:26:30,560 --> 00:26:35,320
thinking one of the ways is to
whack old people and you know,

569
00:26:35,320 --> 00:26:38,200
and it's like if you can figure
out a way to do that so that,

570
00:26:38,640 --> 00:26:42,080
but if I have dementia, how am I
going to know that it's time to

571
00:26:42,080 --> 00:26:43,920
go?
You're going to have to have

572
00:26:43,920 --> 00:26:46,200
somebody related to you that
would be able to have the

573
00:26:47,080 --> 00:26:49,000
tenacity.
Yeah, Well, I've.

574
00:26:49,000 --> 00:26:51,920
Told him.
I've told you and I've told told

575
00:26:51,920 --> 00:26:54,640
your mom, but I feel like that.
That's horrible.

576
00:26:55,880 --> 00:26:58,200
I mean, it's necessary, I would
think.

577
00:26:58,280 --> 00:27:01,280
Yeah, yeah.
And it's my wishes.

578
00:27:01,600 --> 00:27:03,640
Yeah, no, exactly.
But it's like.

579
00:27:04,120 --> 00:27:09,400
I'll be doing this and and
you'll be like mom, shoot the

580
00:27:09,400 --> 00:27:12,240
Bunny.
That's kind of what it is, I

581
00:27:12,280 --> 00:27:14,120
mean.
Mom, Mom, shoot the Bunny.

582
00:27:16,880 --> 00:27:18,360
Mom on that.
Shoot the Bunny.

583
00:27:19,200 --> 00:27:23,440
Thanks.
We're going to wrap up here.

584
00:27:23,480 --> 00:27:24,480
Did I?
Hurt you on that one.

585
00:27:24,840 --> 00:27:27,920
Yeah, well, we're also, I think
we've got 2 minutes left here.

586
00:27:28,440 --> 00:27:31,080
Oh wow, God, I am talking a lot
about that.

587
00:27:31,200 --> 00:27:34,320
No, when it went by quickly, but
as always, extremely rewarding.

588
00:27:34,320 --> 00:27:36,840
Christmas and death.
Yeah, that was fun.

589
00:27:36,840 --> 00:27:39,400
It.
Was a great uplifting.

590
00:27:39,560 --> 00:27:45,280
Episode for the holidays We love
all our listeners and find us on

591
00:27:45,280 --> 00:27:47,840
social media and a record of my
father.

592
00:27:48,880 --> 00:27:51,520
Be easy and have happy holidays.
Do you have anything to say?

593
00:27:52,800 --> 00:27:54,960
Yeah, I was just going to say
that we're thinking about doing

594
00:27:54,960 --> 00:27:57,440
some type of contest for this
guy's head and we're trying to

595
00:27:57,440 --> 00:28:00,760
figure out what it is.
So we're we'll, we will, we will

596
00:28:00,760 --> 00:28:03,240
post more information on that on
the next episode.

597
00:28:03,440 --> 00:28:05,120
We'll probably bring.
It up and show it.

598
00:28:05,920 --> 00:28:08,400
But it is interesting that we
had all these talking points of

599
00:28:08,400 --> 00:28:10,600
all the things we're going to do
and we started talking about

600
00:28:10,600 --> 00:28:12,560
Christmas.
We had ornaments and all this

601
00:28:12,560 --> 00:28:14,520
and we talked about that for
like 2 minutes and then we go

602
00:28:14,520 --> 00:28:19,760
right into killing people.
So you're going to have to write

603
00:28:19,760 --> 00:28:22,640
Kevorkian as part of this.
I I'll look for, you know, a

604
00:28:22,640 --> 00:28:24,440
picture of a coffin or
something, because that could be

605
00:28:24,440 --> 00:28:26,640
our Chris.
It's Christmas time and a

606
00:28:26,640 --> 00:28:28,000
picture of a Kaufman, we can
call it.

607
00:28:28,080 --> 00:28:30,480
This is the Christmas time
episode and it's dead people.

608
00:28:30,920 --> 00:28:33,560
What do you think?
I think I like that idea.

609
00:28:33,560 --> 00:28:35,120
All right.
Happy holidays, everybody.