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In this week's episode, we discussed the power of music and its associative nature with relationships. We talked about our shared experiences on early morning rides to school, the music that we listened to, and how this led to developing my musical taste. These experiences helped curate my understanding of likes and dislikes as well as my current perception of music. Join us for a discussion on music and more here at a Record of My Father.

0:02 Hello and welcome back to another episode of a record of my final. Here we are today. I think we're going to talk about music for a little bit, and a little bit is being exactly 34 minutes and 58 seconds. So what do you? What do you think about music? Only got 34 minutes in here, 58 seconds to talk about it. I don't know what the. Hell to say, you better hurry up. Not enough time. You better. Just start like spitting it all out. Let me think, what was my earliest song that I listened to That and I would have to say it was probably in first grade and it was Sugar Sugar by The Archies playing my Candy Girl, whatever the hell it is. I don't remember.

0:49 That's my voice. Yeah, I'm definitely. I'm definitely Lady Gaga. We're going in karaoke soon enough, but when she's. Asleep we're. Only talking about in the high when you were to high school, there was a band and it was such a bizarre band. Too well, I think the and when I was in middle school, it was a when I was in Ripon Middle School, there was our arch enemy, which was Fred and Lynn Middle School and Aerosmith played there. That's crazy. That played for a dance and that would have been like 69 or 7, you know, right around there. And that was when they were like, you know, they played at a high, at A at a middle school dance. And I was just like, wow.

1:36 Well, that was like Jim Croce as well. And Jim Croce played at a let's see, it was in New York high school, yeah. And I remember talking to a woman that went to the the ACDC concert and she's like, I saw him play when I was in high school. Isn't that crazy in? The middle of yeah. And just the whole like, wow. I mean, I think about musicians if I ever met any, the ones that have touched me through the years. I don't think I've met any really. I've met one well. The coolest, well, the neatest thing that I ever did was probably going to the Cat Stevens that you and I and your mother went to. Remember that. That was incredible. Kennedy Center, that was. Just like unforgettable experience, that was something. He has a voice and a way about him that it exudes a feeling.

2:18 And then when I was in, say it from about eighth grade until 11th grade, it's kind of one of the few things that kept my head together. You know, I was very, what do you want to call it? Volatile. Crazy. I did a lot of stuff. I got kicked out of school. A lot of times I I I was first to action. I was never someone to sit, but music is something that was just sort of like, you know, I mean, you know, you hear it all the time where it says call them the beast and it's like and it and it does, it makes you feel better but also it amps you up. I mean, I. I remember rewarding thing too in your brain as well and that that's how it's used is that it rewards your your serotonin level when you listen to music. Well, it can also go the other way, 'cause I remember I worked as a doorman at Georgetown in a club called Garrett's. And I remember it was like 1145.

3:17 And the and the and the guy put on, and this is when we had cassettes and he puts in LA Woman and that starts, and then everybody just starts jumping. And then the owner happens to be there drinking beer with one of his friends on a Friday night for whatever stupid reason. And he goes over and he goes, you started it too soon. Didn't know what that meant. Within 20 minutes, fights broke out. I mean, just people. Just randomly, yeah. One woman that that was the night that the woman got hit in the forehead. With the the. Pint glass and which I always thought weird, but there was this, like Marines got in a fight and somebody else got.

3:57 I mean, it was just stupid. Shit, that woman is not a song that I think that people would fight. I wouldn't think so either, but it was. Like Murphy's? Yeah, OK. No, but it's a driving song that that drives people and wakes them up and makes them it it it boosts your the. Bass line in that song is very, very. Oh my God it. Boosts your. And it made people literally they were doing the what do you call it when you see the I've I've never been to a punk show. I should probably go to a punk show where they jump up and down and I and and the bar is as many people can fit in a room as big as this room. I as big as a place see where you are right now. Put 100 people in there, elbow to elbow with the bar at one end and then another bar at the other end, a stairwell in the middle, a side little room there. I can tell the story about that where the woman went in there and peed in the sink and that that was a great, that was always that was a funny story, you know, and this was this was that night.

4:58 I mean, there was like so many things that just went absolutely crazy. There were other crazy things. But and then you told me she's like, why am I getting kicked now? I don't. I don't know what I mean. I know she went in there and she said there's like a long lady rolling to the ladies room, 'cause I think everybody was snorting coke in there at that time. And it's like I I I can't, I'm not going to go to take their coke, you know, and it's like figure it out. And so she went into the room where we food off. It's offshoot of the kitchen and there was a little sink in there and. She pops up. On the sink. And I'm going like, don't do that. If you do that, I got to throw you out. I can't help it. And I just like, whatever.

5:39 And then I go to throw her out. Everybody. I can't believe you're doing that. You're just a bastard. And I'm like. You're such a misogynist, yeah. Whatever. Whatever. You know, if a guy had done it, I would have kicked him out too. No, exactly. Pissing on her sink, On her freaking pots and pans. No, no, no, no, no. That's where we wash. The freaking pots and pans? Well, this is probably a wake up call for many. Well, I don't want to Garrison. That night, I think we just served them, Hey, we're not going to charge you for the special sauce. Oh, oh, Oh my gosh, whatever. What music are you? Talking about music, I forgot what music? Are you listening to these days? What do you What do?

6:22 You mean I still I I love, you know, a long way to the top of rock'n'roll. I love A/C, DCI, listen to the same songs. I listen to pop. I love Carly Rae Jepsen. I love. I was thinking about, I haven't heard any Taylor songs. I want to go grab a Taylor song and listen to that. That is just like a driven, fun I, I, I could absolutely be one of those. What are the floozies? What do they call them? Floozies. No, no. What are the people that follow her? Swifties. Swifties. Yeah, I'd be a Swifty, yeah. Yeah, that's. It that was my guess, too. That was my Yeah, I'm a. Swifty Man, I could be a Swifty I could. Be a floozie, too. I didn't know that you listened to her music.

7:04 I would. I haven't. I haven't. I've heard a few of like the songs on the radio and I liked them and I said, hey, I'm going to buy one was. It the image, it's just the image city. Well, I mean my house. I remember you laughing when I when I when I bought that, and then my house. What's another 1B? ANNANNANNANNY? Whatever. It would be Gwen Stefani. Gwen Stefani. I love that. Who doesn't love Gwen Stefani? Hollaback Girl, no doubt was also incredible as well when she was in. There, Hollaback Girl is just whoa, you know? And then there's two or three songs from from both Van Halen's that are really good, you know? How dare you like I like them both. You like Dan Hagar, man? I like you. Like Dan Hagar, huh? Yeah, yeah.

7:45 I think that this meeting is adjourned that we need to. He did 5150, man. Which we're not doing this right now anymore. Wait, I'm not a van. OK, Right now is a really good song, OK. I do like right now. I do like right? Now you know and you listen to but I. Didn't say that you didn't hear it from me and. What was the one where David Lee Roth is looking over into the abyss and he lost a few friends there? It's not just jump, it's on jump. No, I love jump. I used to listen to that. It's not Panama either. And and now when I was in college, MTV one year when I was at ODU. He made the music video, You know that. Oh yeah, I saw. That the whole modern conception of the music video. He he did the backward flip and you would see Eddie playing and when he saw his it, to me it was just it was magic. How fast and how exacting he could move his hands up and down the guitar and you just look at that. You're just like, you know that to me is that's freaking Beethoven on a guitar.

8:48 You know, just because the movement to move from the top to the bottom and to to stretch and just, you know, I just love that. I mean, I love that. I've seen that in Billy Idol's guitar when they were doing Rebel Yell and you saw the guitarist and he flips the guitar behind his back and he catches it and he and he just goes crazy. Of course, Prince, you can't anything. My heart is gently weeping. It's everybody's seen that and you. Yeah, that was that just. I mean, you just go like, what an amazing musician. Or Stevie Ray Vaughan, voodoo child. When you see him play and he's playing and he breaks guitar strings while he's doing a rift, he switches to the other guitar strings.

9:33 A guy comes on stage UN hitches his guitar, re hitches the new one and he jumps and keeps going. What the? That's not human. That's just or or that's somebody that that they have a. There are people that have talent and and don't like go after it, but he's a person that they said. Just like as soon as he finished his show, he goes sitting in his in his limo, waiting to go to the next thing or going. To. The and he'd be playing that. Stevie Ray Vaughan he'd be playing the guitar and it's like when you look at the people and and Eddie Van Halen was the same way. I mean I remember Sammy Hagar when he I wrote it. They read a piece about when he showed up at his house to to to audition, and he said they're all sitting there drinking beer and smoking cigars in the garage or smoking cigarettes in the garage and Eddie Van Halen is just playing the guitar. Yeah, he never stopped.

10:27 You know, he just never stopped. Well, that's what he would do as well as he would sit in his room for long hours and just like because that's what he found to be most interesting. That passion is a really, really cool thing to see. When you see how they put it into something that's and and that that's what people Voice said about me. They said I have that passion when it comes to the businesses that I've been in and the things that you know, when I believe something, I believe it or I don't, you know, so I have that, I'm they. Say that you're the Eddie Van Halen of the SEC law firm. There you go. I, I, I would love to say that I was something like that, but that ain't there's a lot. Yeah, there's a lot of brilliant people. But anyway. Anyway, I like that other music. What was it?

11:11 But what about silence? Because when you're in the car for the longest time, I think when I turned 1615 or 16, you just stopped listening to music in the call. Well, because The thing is, is that to me, it was distracting when I'm with you because it's like you're my kid and it's like I don't have and and remember, it may not have seemed like a long time to you, but I went to work at 7:00 in the morning and I didn't get home until 6:00 at 9:00. No, I remember. And that was Monday through Friday. And then on on weekends, A lot of times I was going to bed at 9:00 on Saturday so I can get up at 3:30 Sunday freaking morning and make it to the airport by 5:00 so I could Peck, catch a flight, and go set up a freaking booth on the other side of in Chicago or Texas or California or New York. No, I remember.

12:00 So it was like I had to focus my time on you. But remember our songs? Oh my God, what was it? Jay Giles Band. We listened to Centerfolds maybe 1000 times, maybe 1000 times. In the pickup truck, I swear everyday. What were you in 3rd grade? Something like that. That's why I actually do a music face. You and I was really called into that. Well, she's the greatest because she. Had she had the playlist? She has this wide diverse and see that's what another thing that sort of turned me on about her is the fact that she likes she loved all that stuff from the 80s. The silky whatever the heck and all that and and I never tried anything. All the music that I've ever done most of it with the exception of very, very few pieces have been you know my brother was a member of the Columbia Lighthouse. Not.

12:49 No not for the blind Columbia Columbia Records. They used to do 12 records for a penny and you would get those and then you'd have to buy the rest of the albums, that regular album prices, which are 699 and you could buy them in the store for 299, but you buy them for the six. So they made money that way. And but it also was an instant record collection, a dozen albums and he had like Sly and the Family Stone everyday. People I remember. Listening to that, he satisfaction the original. What the heck was it original? Rolling Stones? What was that one song? What was the one that No Satisfaction? The original 64 album I remember. So the album.

13:36 What's his name on the front with that funny look? Who else there were? There were just so many different Those are the two that really stick out at me. The Sly and the family Stone. Rolling Stones. What was that album that you had by the A Strange? European band? Oh, you mean? Like it was one. It was it was like a Harry or something. Rancid. No, no, that was. Yeah, I got. I heard that one. Song by them. And it was so I've never heard. And it it sounds so strange. Well, it's not like Alan Parsons project is.

14:16 It no, no, no, no, no. It's more it's way I said it's. I love that. That was my that was my breakup album. Oh my. God, yeah. You ever do that when you? Break up, listen to this album around that time, I'm gonna say. That when somebody breaks your heart, you go and you try to like mend it, you try to figure out ways to do it. Music is 1 great way, but you know all the songs are like, Oh my life is all about you, you know, Which is sort of stupid. But at the same time, I mean for me in particular, I would exercise and I would listen to songs and so I would get an album and I remember my my my early break up when I was in my teens was I would put an album on. I do setups. Yeah.

14:58 And I would do until one side was done. I remember, I remember The Doobie Brothers, the Captain and me. I would do that album. I would do I robot both sides the album. Great album. I would do, yeah. Todd Rundgren, A Wizard of True Star. That's an amazing album. I have that one. Amazing. I have that one. Oh my God. I had all these and I got rid of them for some stupid reason. What was the other one? CDs or the the Future? No, I didn't, you know, the wife had all the music in the world and and I and I and music had really started to play a back seat to my life then. So I didn't, I didn't. I had it all the time, and I played it all the time when I was in the car.

15:42 And the only time I play it loud is when I'm trying to annoy the person next to me in the car, 'cause they're pissing me off. And so, I mean, it's real more. It's more of a sword than a soothe, I would say. A sword than a soothe. Yeah, that's going. That's going to get our new merchandise thing online coming up soon. I I come up with that stuff all the time. I'm, I'm, I'm the most person, the most full of shit marketing person you'll ever find. Or. The most person marketing shit. There's a market interesting. Nothing like that. I got in the vinyl ones. You just throw all that stuff out there. Yeah. I, I, I'm, I'm great at pithy statements that encompass things that people go, wow, that sounds really cool. Just don't analyze it too much.

16:25 'Cause it's toning. Have you used the record player in that room that you're in yet? The the one that I show you how to use, I showed it. I think I did with you. Yeah, I showed you how to use it and. I don't think I've used it since. Oh really? Is it plugged into the? Yeah, I think it's plugged in. I set off for you up there. Oh, OK. Everything should work. I should put it on right now. I'll listen to Frank Sinatra. I listen. I like his. I mean, he does the I did it my way. I love that song. Or New York, NY I love that. I love that from Jay-Z as well. Well, there was that strange man at the dump that was getting rid of like. Oh my God, that was the craziest thing in the world, 'cause I go to the dump and I'm throwing out cigar boxes, 'cause I I mean, I smoke cigars. I probably smoke a box and a half a month. I have like 50 cigar boxes, you know, and they're all wooden and they're made out of a, you know, cedar. So they're kind of neat.

17:23 And I try to give them away to people and you take them and stores sell them and shit and I don't care. I'm just like, I feel bad that I don't get to reuse them. And so I'm, I'm taking them to the dump and I've, I've got a ton of them. And I see this guy next to me in this old freaking Fairlane at Fairmont, Falmouth, whatever the weather was station wagon. And he's in the back and he's talking and he's taking out albums and I'm looking at them. I'm going like, he takes like a big box full and he throws it in the dumpster, And I said, dude, what are you doing? And he goes, I'm getting rid of my albums because my girlfriend said it's either them or me. And I think if she throws them out, she's going to throw me out too.

18:05 And so and I was like, and I was like, and I'm looking at them and I and I'm holding cigar boxes. He goes, why in the world would you throw that away? And so and I'm going like cigar boxes, man. I smoke and I got like 50 of my don't know what to do with them. And he goes, well, I'll take them. And I said, well, I want your albums And he goes, would you want to look at them? I said, no, I'll take every single one. You sure you don't want to look at them? There's a lot of show tunes and stuff in there. And I was like, is he gay? Is he coming on to me? He's like, you know, that's what I thought at first. Yeah, that's that means, I mean. Whatever, you know. But yet he has. Like Andy Williams, he has all of these every K.

18:47 Harry Belafonte I remember Harry Belafonte. That sounds really good too. Wow. Sonny, son of a preacher man. Who is that? Dusty Springfield. Dusty Springfield Oh my God. He's got like everything from the 60s. I was just like, holy crap. And a lot of late 50s had Lena Horne had. 50s as. Well, yeah, I mean, there were just amazing. Stuff. A lot of TV show stuff too, yeah. And we still haven't. We still haven't do that Well, I. Think that that's kind of what the whole the whole thing was back then, that that's where albums kind of you know, you need an idea and if you're going to play a song, well, people realize that hey, if you have rock around the clock on a television show, more people will watch it because. There's something.

19:32 That links to it. And that was the early days of, you know, music in the background, having people clap in the background in between, and then having laugh tracks and all that other happy crap that makes you believe that that it's something that you should watch. And it's wonderful. Well, that's funny too, when talking about airport music that was developed by kind of Brian Eno. And then he was in a car crash, right? And his friend comes in and puts on an album and then wasn't it a high enough decibel? It was like very low. And so he was listening to it and he realized that music is as impactful at that level as it is at a higher level, right. And that's why, really, if you've ever listened to airport music, it's phenomenal. Really.

20:16 This is such a load decimal and it's it's very very interesting. I don't know. So then he developed. They play ACDC at the airport. Come on. For ambient music, No ambient music, but it was. It's really something, really something. You got me. You got me thinking now. I mean, I've heard elevator music. That was really good. Yeah, but that's the why it exists. It's because of the whole idea and invention of NBA music. Playing it, Yeah. Because you think about it, it's like, how do you, how do you keep a large group calm? And I mean, even I, I go back to that thing when the guy said you started, you started the music too soon, 'cause what you're supposed to do. And then what? He said, he said you don't play music like that. When bars closing at two, you, you start playing those songs at 12:45 to to about one, 'cause then you get everybody amped up. So they they pound their last two or three drinks, they amp up the money they put in.

21:06 If they start pounding drinks at 11, they're going to be just knee walking drunk by two when the bars when we're kicking you out, you know? So it was like, you don't want them to really start pounding drinks until like almost 1:00 in the morning, 'cause then they got 30 minutes. And most people drink one or two. And then usually you're trying to throw them out like before 2 and they're they're sitting there with two, two beers or two beers. Just 5 minutes ago. I can't believe you're throwing me out. And it's on like last call was 30 minutes ago, so no, you didn't buy them 5 minutes ago. You're just slow as shit. You're hanging out over here, Gavin, and thinking that we're going to stay up all night because we don't want to go home and that's just not going to happen.

21:48 No, it's not. Leave. Get out. No, I was never mean. I was I for the I I was like almost in every instance I'm trying to think I I was never like I'm there. It paid to be decent to people. There were that, you know, or to give them alternatives, you know, 'cause that was the whole the whole thing is like you, you're dealing with somebody that's, you know, inebriated. He might be on a little bit of speed, maybe a little cocaine, a little this, little that. And so their mind is not, it's not and and. And. You're about, I mean, I there was rarely a day that I worked there that I wasn't at least a third in the bag, you know, 'cause, I mean, I'd show up at 8:00 and I had a bartender, Brian, who was just this great guy, and he would do this. He would, he'd swap his head like come here doggy, and he would set a a little glass about this big full of Heaven Hill bourbon.

22:55 And he would set it on the par and he would say it's your hourly. And he would give me an hourly drink of bourbon, which is about, I don't know, the shock, no, hell no. Maybe. Maybe this much, maybe this much. Maybe a little. Less than this. Three fingers so you would chug it and it was just enough that I could take it all in, you know, Which sounds really sexual but wasn't meant to be anyway. I mean, just enough because it was like when you look at a glass, no, no, no ice and you go all the way to that little lip around the top, it was just below that and it was just like. And it.

23:39 Was Heaven Hill, and everybody used to it was rail bourbon. It was supposed to be. Everybody talk about Heaven Hill being crap. And I got to tell you, I love that bourbon. I mean, for $3 a quart, it was great, $3 at 3:50, it might have been four then. So prices rise. Well, that's terrible. Yeah, it was really it was really kind of good. But anyway, we're losing sight of all the different musics. Are we? Might. I'm. I don't know. I think though, we're branching out that we're discovering because music, if not, grabs memories and we're talking about those. Well, that's it. It's like, what song do you remember? It's like, you know, my wedding was Pacha Bell's Canon. I just when I hear that, I stop and I can see my wife walking. Downs cannon. Pocket bells, Cannon.

24:21 I don't. Think that's right. I think it. Yeah, it's something like that. Mozart, whatever it it, I'll find it and I'll. Send it to you, Cannon Symphony, or. Something it's probably that too. I don't know. But I every time I hear it, I know what it is, I know what it sounds like. Then it just it just moves me, you know? Cuz that's when I remember seeing her and my brother hadn't gotten there yet. And that was funny. We. Can link the the song in the, you know the. Wedding was interesting too. I can go down. I can run the stories down. We're going to link the song. You can't go in until the, the until the until the group's mother gets here. By the hell my Oh my. My my mother was 1/2 an hour late. In the oh, I I remember hearing this. Yeah, it's that was well she had. She had to do the wash, man.

25:11 She had to put the laundry in that. That is exactly what she said. Well, I had to put a wash in and I'm just like, I didn't even bat an eye. Well, she was unstable at this point, wasn't she? I don't know. I don't. I don't. I don't know. I mean, she might have been a little bit, but. That means if you look at that. No, No, she did not. She she was. She did not think that anybody that married her sons was good enough. No, she's just that way. She was never going to accept her. Valerie, she was never going to. She never accepted my brothers and their wives. She never accepted any of them. So that that that was just her thing. You know, I, you know, they were taking us away from her. And I guess that's a hard thing.

25:57 You know, at some point you're going to get married and you know. And if and if she turns into be that way, then I will point to her that they should be accepted. I don't. Actually. No, but she's not that kind of person, you know what I mean? She's not vindictive. Yeah, and there's also like the the home life was we were protection, so. Yeah. We're protection from the old man, so when as we go away, she's still there and you know, there's one less body between me and him. No. Exactly the good old days, weren't they? Just so wonderful. Yeah, yeah, I think I should beat you or something. I I think a little bit more. I think you might have missed the train.

26:38 I think it's too late. Though I think it's way too late now. You might. You probably hit me back. That, yeah. That wouldn't be probably that. Song Would I hit you back too though? Yeah, it's my. Way to hell. I used to sing ACD Scene concert. You remember? That Yeah, me and you, Yeah. That song, Highway to Hell. My mother used to drive me to work when I worked at Newton Asphalt. Every morning at 6:00, 6/15, she would go and drop me off over in Springfield and then she would drive over to the other side of Springfield. She dropped me off at Van Dorn Street right in there, and then turn around and drive and like my God, I would say one day a week we were late. It was just mind numbing 'cause she was. She's a a fiddler.

27:27 Always fiddling around. Oh no, I I think we need to. We need to. This glass is dirty. No, no. Oh, oh, no. This is we. We need to charge this. There's dirty dishes in the sink I can't leave. And you're just like I if I'm not there by 7:00, I get fired. Do you? Do you not I mean? What is the world doing? You a favor by God? Well, no, no, no, I 'cause I over and over and over kept saying I'll do no, no, it's it's a waste and it's good and we should do this and it's bond and. She's oh, she wanted to do it, Yeah. Yeah. So I was like, I I kept doing this because she needed that psycho stuff.

28:08 But it was great. I remember her. She would, she would play that every morning, 'cause she had a she had the cassette or yeah, she had the cassette and would play Highway to Hell, and we'd listen to that and we're just going down the road at about 9 miles an hour. And that's all 'cause that's all the traffic was so freaking terrible in. Springfield. Well, no. You'd start in Woodbridge and you'd go route one and route one, then went on to 95 N and 95 N, went to I guess 495 towards Baltimore. And then your first exit was Van Dorn St. and she looped down there, Get over. You had to get over the railroad tracks before the train came to drop me off because the train came through at like 7:00 in the morning and that was the asphalt train. And if she missed that, then I'd be late for work. And then it'd be like go to the job site and it's like we hate you.

28:58 And it was just very, very. It's like we hate you. Yeah. Oh my God. You know, did you ever? Listen to music on the job site. That's all. I see people with these wireless speakers. No. Well, The thing is, is like asphalt, you're you're on the road and you're on, you're on a machine, you're on a machine that's 120 decibels that it blows your ears out, OK. And you're grinding the asphalt. If you're, if you're laying it, you're moving so fast that you're at a, you're at a brisk walk pace. So you would need to and then there wasn't power. Then we're talking 8182, something like that. So it wasn't the same when I did concrete. When I did concrete we would you're working in one location but there were houses all around you. So you're always like cognizant of, you know, you got a pee and if they didn't have a Dons, Johnny had to go find a Bush and, you know, try to stay out of people's view so the neighbors wouldn't be pissed off that you're, you know, pissing the back fencers, whatever.

30:03 And. He's out there flanking his winter and he's like, I gotta pee, man, you know? And then if you had to go poo, oh, God. Take the truck, man. Go somewhere. Yeah, It was always the good old days. And this is where music leads us. I got all. The. Yeah. Well, I mean I got The thing is is like I just. Relate. That's 3/4 of your life in a sense. You spent 3/4 of your life in the bathroom. My school. That's where I do my best read. Yeah, but I don't, you know, I don't listen to music in the bathroom. I don't either. Yeah, I just never, never had any desire. And like dinner time, I would rather, unless I'm by myself, I don't play music, then it's quiet most of the time.

30:50 In the house we don't. We don't play music. I only play music now when I'm by myself and I'm and occasionally when a if I start up the car and a song is good, when I'm driving the dogs to walk, when I drop twice a day, it's like I I listen to the song and maybe and then if it goes into the commercial craft then I'm like screw that, I do. Every time I listen to my Spotify playlist that I've been making since 2012, actually. Well, every time I get in the car with you, you play music. You won't leave the driveway or the wherever we are. Until you start music, I won't. That's like your thing. Yeah, I don't know why I do anything. Valerie used to be a lot more like that and it and it's like and she has this diverse.

31:33 There might be a learned action from her. Actually, it might be, yeah. I think the the. Learned action is that you have learned. Thankfully your musical taste more from her, but also you broaden them like you listen to country and you listen to yeah. You just don't listen to country and. Williams Yeah, I do. No, no, I do now. You do now, Yeah. I never did before and I heard people talk. It's so good. It's heartfelt, all this. I'm like, Nah, it's hillbilly hit shit. It's amazing. It's. And yet I started listening to it and. It's like now it. Touches me. Well no, and the reason I do is because of you. You have expanded and I bought songs. I What's the one about the the really racist one about Japan? That's not racist.

32:17 Made in Japan is not racist at all. Oh, OK With Buck Owens, it's about a World War 2 veteran who marries a woman and then she's already been arranged to be married in Japan. And then he can't marry her because she's been arranged to be married. What does he call her? He. Doesn't call her anyway. It's my Japanese something or other Lotus blossom or. Refers to her as a woman. Like, I don't think that it has any racial connotations to him. Oh, OK. Yeah. Well, I I think that no, maybe more in today's life than Ben and and and maybe I'm just being silly, which I think. You are, yeah. Yeah, well, you know how that's how I play stuff, but. No, but that song is phenomenal. Yeah, that's a very that's a very heartbreaking song.

33:00 You know what? You know this is the reality of what happened after. When you play that, you know what I think of. You've never seen the play, Miss Saigon. No, but you've told me about it. But it's but it's very, very similar to that and it ends that way in the very end. And the wife and I saw it in London and it was like one of those things that you don't want people to see you when the lights come up because you're crying, you know. And it's a very like heart wrenched, touching thing that you know. And I love that kind of music too when it's you know and the same thing. I love Bernstein or certain pieces. Glenn Miller in the mood. Benny Goodman Oh my gosh, you hear that clarinet? And it just doesn't. Doesn't make sense.

33:41 Glenn Miller. Yeah, well, no, he is trombone. Benny Goodman is, is my. My dad was a big band guy always. Oh, he was, yeah. Just crazy about that stuff. You know, we used to always get stuck with watching Lawrence Welk or Guy Lombardo at New Year's Eve, and he get hammered and and we get in fights over it. And you know, what is that shit? Why do we got to listen to that again? But then you get older and you're going. That's how much? How valuable is it? No, that most of their music was trash. the IT was the musicians like that. If they had somebody like a Guy Lombardo, I mean if they had somebody like a Benny Hill or.

34:22 A. Benny Goodman, Benny Hill. That'd be funny. Yeah, Organized. I mean, if they had those people playing, those people were like, you know, there are people. What's the one I saw that was ripping on a on a guitar and I was just like shocked by how God is from. He's from the 40s and he was just playing a box guitar. And I mean, not not like Glen Campbell. I mean he's really good too. He was. He was really, really just amazingly touching songs, you know? I mean. The best ball was really, really good at instrumentals. Yeah. The original, yeah. Well then there's Buddy. Is it Buddy Rich that plays the? Problems. Maybe. Or is that Buddy Guy?

35:03 Guy Buddy Other. No, one of the buddies. I don't freaking know one or the other. I can't. I can't. I'm not good with musicians. Yeah, they're too good. They're. All named Buddy you know. No, yeah, but I think we're coming up on our time. We got a couple minutes left here and we're gonna do much. Some SO music was a good topic. I liked it. I think that we had a good time with this. Well, I would say if anybody has any topics that they'd like us to cover, like anything, whether it's filthy or not or whether it's really personal, who cares? I talk about anything for the most part and we'll and if you want Zach to talk, we can make him talk too. Yeah, we'll we'll talk about me at some point, maybe one day. Right. We'll do. We'll do a record of your mother. I was thinking about doing a couple of themselves with her the other day actually.

35:49 I think that would be good that that would be. I think she would, really. Enjoy that. I think. I think she would get a kick out of it, I think. And even if you just taped it for your own personal whatever, you don't have to pull it out there or something. We could, we could, you could actually use it to salt the other ones too, as long as she's OK with that. Because not everybody has this narcissistic view about life the way I do, you know, at. Least it's you have the self evaluation of it. Though oh God, yeah, I am. I am. You know, I that's The funny thing is, is that I can get to the point where I know what I'm doing wrong, but the hell if I'm gonna do anything about it. A lot of people. Why do you? Why are you driving 130 miles an hour? Because I want to get there faster. It's wrong.

36:31 I know. It's dangerous. I know. Are you going to change that? No. There's some respect, yeah, but it's like. Yeah, I'm self aware that that's stupid and I could pay consequences and all this other stuff, you know? But there's also levels of risk too. Like I don't drink and drive anymore, you know? Yeah, you know. Yeah, that's that's a bad thing. But I think this was great and as always, see us on Spotify. We have AQ and A section. Do you have any ideas? Any questions, Any answers? So if you have answers to our questions, shoot, shoot from the hip and don't aim. Yeah.

37:12 And if anybody knows Joe Rogan, you should mention our name on there. We're all right. This is day three of mentioning his name on this podcast. That's his sponsorship. I think that it'll be 200 more days. I think we should send him an invoice. I think we should send him more invoices. Yeah, we've already sent him a couple, but yeah, I think going and I like that idea, might be more responsive. But everybody have a great night and I hope the new year, the 1st 10 days of it has been treating you well. It is 1/10/2024 and I hope you have a nice 1/11/2020. Four. So when we, so we.