Love

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Hello, and welcome back to
another episode of The Record of

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My Father.
Today we're going to talk about

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the idea of love and how it's
changed over the course of your

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life.
So how's it changed?

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Your life or my life?
I guess part part of your life

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is my life.
Well, yeah.

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I mean, I mean, when I think,
when I think about it, if I look

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back over my history and I'm 64
and I've probably been in love

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three or four times maybe.
And and The thing is, is when

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you're in love with someone and
then you're not, you're not

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really sure that you really
were.

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So it's a very weird thing.
You know, Sometimes you're

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absolutely, positively sure that
that definitely was love, 'cause

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that's what you had.
And it was all-encompassing.

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And everything was wonderful
when you had stars in your eyes

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and all that kind of silly stuff
that you see on the thing.

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But other times you're like not
really I just said that to get

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laid or something like that you
know or or whatever the case and

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you know and and it and you
don't feel you don't feel the

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the the connection and I think
that so it's so it's hard to

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distinguish when you're in it I.
Mean for.

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For me, you know being in a
relationship, being married for

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over 32, three years, 333334 got
married in October 6th 1990.

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So it's been a long time and and
I mean when you think about

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love, that's love between man
and woman or partner and

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partner.
What however you may be.

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I see I I'm, I'm weird.
I don't think that that it's any

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different for a man and a man, a
woman, a woman or a man and a

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woman.
Yeah, yeah.

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I think it's funny that you went
directly to the concept of

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marriage though, and sexual
relations.

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Yeah, well, then I think I I.
Find it funny.

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You can think about like family
first, 'cause that's what I

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always think about.
I think about familiar, really,

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before I think about everything
else.

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Well, I think that how much I
love my friends, 'cause those

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relationships can matter more
than any relationship I've ever

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been in.
That's a good point.

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Yeah, I think that's where I go
when I think about that, that

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word.
Well, most of my love is based

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in my marriage.
That's where it really started.

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I didn't.
I mean, I don't look back.

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And then and then it comes to
you, my family.

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I mean, you were this completely
weird, different type of love

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because, you know, I, I, I
could.

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I mean, honestly, I could have
given a crap whether we had a

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kid or not.
It never really was.

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Like, it's kind of like getting
a dog.

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I didn't see any.
Like, you got to love that one,

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don't you?
Sure.

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I liked it.
So we're starting a merchandise

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line guys.
No, no.

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We were, yeah.
I mean, you know that, you know

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the story that we were like and
we tried early on and then we

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were told that it probably
wouldn't happen and you weren't

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going to have kids and all of a
sudden, you know, Wham bam,

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doodle, sweet French poodle, you
came out, you know, and so that

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was sort of a shocker and so,
but I would say that from that

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day forward, there was just
something in me that said, oh,

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this is different, This was AI
have a different feeling for you

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than I have for my love for you
is a different love than it is

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for my wife.
I think it's the idea of

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creating something and then I'm
just a reflection of you as

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well.
And I think that that is a big

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part of it.
Yeah, that's a huge part of it.

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But even when you were like this
little mush ball of a, you know

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of a piece of play DoH, you were
like, there was still this

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strong connection that I had to
do this.

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And the the littlest
acknowledgement you could give

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me would just make my heart go,
you know, if you grab my hand,

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it was like, you know, and that
kind of weird shit, you know,

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so, so it was very, you know,
and I don't know why and and I'm

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sure everybody doesn't react the
same way and I'm not being

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critical of people that don't
get the same thing, but that's

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the way it was for me.
And then I turned 13 and you

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were regretting everything you
ever did.

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That's what everybody says.
And then I wanted to kill him.

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I wanted to kill him.
Or.

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Or when you scared us so bad
that we wanted to kill you when

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we got you back so you could
never do it again for whatever.

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Reason run out of the store or
something?

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Oh yeah.
When you were five and you went

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hiding in the in the.
Oh yeah, yeah.

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I do remember that.
Used to go.

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You used to think it was so
funny to go into the department

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stores and run away and hide.
I still do that.

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I know, but if we don't give a
shit anymore because we figure

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out that you can take care of
yourself, but when you were 5-6

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and seven you you couldn't.
So we would be like he got

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snatched, yeah.
Well, you always get the worst

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idea, yeah.
Yeah, and you're just like God.

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Somebody threw him in a paper
bag and they took him out.

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My God, he's this, that and the
other.

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And he's been sold into child
sex slavery, or he's been

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chopped up and eaten on a
hamburger or whatever.

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The hell, you're just like when
you're a parent.

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It's like for some reason it
isn't that he met a responsible

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adult and they took him to the
front desk and they're they're

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they're they're finding out who
he is and he and he doesn't even

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know who the hell his parents
are, 'cause he can barely know

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what our names are.
It's Dad.

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It's Dad.
Dad's my dad.

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I What's his last?
I don't know what his last name

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is.
What's your last name?

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Zachary, I mean, I can see the
conversation where, you know,

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they would be in there.
And parents don't think that

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way.
Like, wow, somebody, they're

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they're, you know, 98.
Percent, I'd say most people

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don't think that way.
People always go to the worst.

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Well, 98% of the.
People in the world.

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Are decent.
They they are decent and they

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will do the right thing.
I'd say 98.

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Yeah, that's a good.
Percentage and and I think but

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The thing is is your your whole
mindset is, is focused on that

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2% of the the most horrible
things 'cause that's what we've

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seen on TV, that's what we've
been pushed in front of us and

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all that kind of stuff so.
That kind.

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Of kills that, but also that
that, you know let's go back,

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let's kind of keep a little bit
on topic about the love thing.

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You know, I mean as it's grown
through the years, it's it, it

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obviously it becomes more
emotional.

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You know you you go through
certain levels you know you you

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watch.
I would say that there are

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things that you know, you you,
you see your kid grow up, you

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see him go off to school.
You see you see you.

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You watch your parents die.
When you watch your parents die,

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when you're with your wife and
how she reacts and how she

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allows you to react.
That I think really sort of

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raises the level of love for you
because she was there when my

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mother and my father died.
She wasn't with them and we

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weren't together.
But, you know, we got the news.

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Hey, she's dead.
Come on over.

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You know, maybe.
Maybe it wasn't as happy and

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friendly as that.
And, you know, and and and then

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And then I lost my brother like
five years ago when I remember

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the call that you were actually
in the car.

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Yeah, well, you remember that.
You were driving me to school.

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Yeah, I was driving you to
school and.

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I knew immediately what it was,
too.

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I knew immediately, yeah.
And she's crying on the phone

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and she's like, he's gone.
Yeah.

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And it was just and it was just
like to me, it was like, was

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that.
Like five years ago.

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Yeah, and I didn't realize.
I didn't really think that I

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gave a shit about my brother,
even though for the last, you

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know, 5-10 years I'd see him
every week.

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We talk all the time.
We're real.

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This, that and the other.
I don't think I ever said I love

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you.
I don't think I ever did.

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I mean, really.
A lot of people don't.

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I don't think a lot of.
People you know.

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But when he when that happened
for me, it was like it was like

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somebody took something.
Somebody took the piece of you

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know, me, a piece of you become
a little more guarded when you

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start to lose things that are
really, really close to you and

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love you and that you love.
And when it gets taken away from

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you, you got to, you got to
develop a callus over that

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because that's a feeling that,
you know, you open that up to

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you, like to you, You know, I've
opened up pretty much my whole

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damn life and all my weaknesses.
Because The thing is, is I think

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that a good part of love is when
I share with you what I'm weak

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about.
Vulnerability.

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Vulnerability.
That's it.

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And then you go like, OK, I'm
going to stick this asshole

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here, here, here, here.
That's why.

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That's why when you're in a
fight or an argument with a

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relative, specifically a mother,
father, daughter, son, whatever,

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they can be the cruelest people
in the world because they know

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what your most horrible, weak
moments are, and they'll poke

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them little assholes and and
your parents will do the same

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thing, 'cause they'll know.
Oh yeah, he hates his acne.

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Yeah, look at that.
Listen, you little zit face, you

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know?
And you're like, no, no, that's

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not, that's not fair.
You know you can't.

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You know and and and and that's.
That's the problem.

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You know you've shown a
vulnerability and you find out

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if people who truly love you, do
they take advantage of it or do

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they make a mistake?
You know, cuz occasionally you

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will say the wrong thing and go
like, oh crap, there was one of

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the thousands of thoughts coming
out of Phil's mouth that we're

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not.
That he never, they never passed

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by the brain when I speak, I
mean, so that's just the way it

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is.
And then I.

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Really.
You know, exactly.

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Because I will come out, I'll
say something and it'll be like,

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oh, damn, I shouldn't have said
that.

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Oh, that that was that was
wrong.

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Can I take it back?
Can I take it back?

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Couldn't they back?
Well, you can't.

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You can't.
You've got.

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To apologize and never got to go
like I'm stupid and just and be

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honest with your apology and
just don't say well you made me

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do that or I'm sorry that you
feel bad that I said this

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horrible thing and it's like,
no, you you said it, own it.

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I did it.
I'm wrong.

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I apologize.
You got to forgive yourself too

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for for making a mistake because
so often you're your own worst

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critic and maybe sometimes what
what you said or I mean in

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certain aspects of what I've
said as well, you have to you

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have to forgive yourself for
saying what you thought was

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horrendous one.
In fact, maybe it really wasn't.

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I don't know.
Maybe it really wasn't.

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It's true, yeah.
It's it's it's a hard thing to

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do.
You, you were always so critical

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of your actions and you look
past the things.

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Like, I mean, I have things that
I've done that I'm not proud of

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and I would love to have be able
to write those, but there isn't

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any way to write it, you know?
If there was, I would.

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What do you mean to write it?
What do you mean by that?

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I don't know if you if you if
you say something horrible to

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someone and you apologize, what
else can you do?

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Yeah, exactly.
I mean other than showing,

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showing what the apology means
to you.

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You violated their
vulnerability.

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Yeah.
You've crossed a line.

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It's like telling a lie.
If I lie to you, can I take the

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lie back by telling you the
truth?

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Well no not really.
I'm you know, I lied.

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So you know and it's whether or
not I'm saying hey you look good

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in that dress.
You know, as opposed to no I

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didn't have sex with 9 of the
neighbors.

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You know that there's there's, I
think there's degrees of line.

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Only nine of the neighbors.
Yeah, well, I don't know.

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You know, maybe.
Time.

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But, and that is not
representative of anything that

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I've ever done, 'cause I
haven't, OK, just make sure that

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we're.
Not going back to so you you

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were talking about familial love
and how it's changed in the

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aspect of as you've gotten.
Older.

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You've dramatically changed it.
I think that my brother, my

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brother and my other brother
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My sister, I'm kind of we're my
sister.

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And I were always like, she's
always been my protector since I

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was like a little kid, you know,
forever and ever.

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My brothers were much older,
four and five years older than

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my sister's, only two years
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So she was more of the, you
know, protector and the love

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there is just I would do
anything, you know, and I.

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And I just have that.
And I'm the baby, you know.

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So, hey, I am what I am with the
with the family, I mean.

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And my wife, I mean.
As our love grows.

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Well, I don't know if it grows.
I don't know.

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It's there.
I mean, now I look at the point

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where, Oh my gosh, I'm going to
have to take care of her or she

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is going to have to take care of
me.

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And we've had to take care of
each other through the years,

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varying degrees.
You break your leg, you, you

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know, I broke my leg.
You do something, she does

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something.
She gets hurt.

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One of them gets hurt.
In a physical way.

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Yeah, in a physical way.
You have to do that emotional

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way.
When the other person, one of

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their parents, die, Like her
father died this year, you know,

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she needed support.
And all I ever did was, you

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know, and I disagreed with
things.

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But one of the few times in my
life I've shut my cake hole

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completely, 'cause you just, you
know, when someone's going

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through that, it's it.
It's not a time for me to be me.

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It's a time for me to shut up.
And that's the one thing I think

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is that's a good attribute to
learn, you know, So, you know,

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And now you know her mother's
advanced age.

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And there's love there.
And you got to see like, what's

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going to happen?
So yeah, I know exactly.

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But then she will eventually we
we will both eventually get

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older and and one of us will
become Intrepid, Drapid or

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whatever.
We can't walk and all.

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That kind of stuff.
And drapid, yeah, I don't know.

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I don't know what.
The heck it is, yeah.

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No, but I think what you're
talking about is that it's

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tested is that it's tested.
OK, that's the testing.

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That's a good point.
I hadn't.

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That's something that you're
always testing.

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Testing your.
Love depending on, yeah.

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And you don't do it because you
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The world around in the test.
Set right?

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I would never.
I would never.

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I think that if you set out to
test whether or not someone

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loved you, that you're an
asshole.

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Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Yeah, I would think like, oh,

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you've seen all those.
Movies with that.

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'Cause if I have to test you to
see if you love me, then I am so

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insecure in my feelings about
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That and also I'm a crazy
stalker wackadoodle, you know, I

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would never.
I I think that that's that's a

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for me that would be a wrong way
to approach it, 'cause I don't

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know if somebody else needs,
well, you got to prove that they

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love you and it's like, I don't
know how you prove it.

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You know other than, other than.
Pro action, yeah.

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And.
And I'm more of a, I'm more of

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a.
All your words in the world

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don't mean shit.
No, exactly.

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Show me right.
I'm.

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A I'm a I'm from Missouri.
Show me, show me state.

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Isn't that what that is?
Is what?

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Missouri is the show me state, I
believe.

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So someone's going to correct me
on that and hopefully somebody

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does, but I think Missouri is
the correct me state the show

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me, yeah.
Well, that's what.

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Truman One of Truman's famous
quotes is that I'm from

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Missouri.
It's the show me, so show me and

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something.
That's where.

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It comes from.
No, I know exactly.

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I I know you're talking.
And I never verified that, but I

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just.
I just assumed that he knew what

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the hell he was.
Talking about, it sounds right.

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It sounds right.
I don't think I need to be

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patient.
It sounds right.

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Yeah, I'll look it up after this
and figure out that I was

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stupider than usual, so.
Figured I was Abraham Lincoln

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that said that.
Yeah, probably.

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Show me.
Show me how to shoot somebody in

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the back of the head while he's
watching theater.

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Probably shouldn't have.
Dash.

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Probably shouldn't have said
that.

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Yeah, but that's that's
interesting.

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That's funny that you.
What if John Wilkes Boot was

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from Missouri It.
Might have been, it might have

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been.
But that's funny that you.

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Well, he told me to show him no.
That's funny that you go to

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personal relationships.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

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Well, I mean you.
You could you?

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Could you could?
Expand it and say love of

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country.
Do you have love of country?

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Do you?
Have I don't understand the

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whole term patriotism.
I never.

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I never got that any other
country that will have that

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tongue I and we do for
something.

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So I I've never really gotten
that.

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I think I like.
Yeah, sorry didn't.

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I'm I'm trying to think like, do
I what?

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What does that mean?
Does that mean that that?

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Patriotism.
Is that what you're talking?

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About Well, no.
When I say I'm not saying

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patriotism specifically, I'm
just saying love, love.

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If you love, do we love our
country?

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Do you love your country?
And it's like, I I guess so.

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I mean, I would.
I I know.

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What that means if I was told
up.

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In the military in my 20s, I
would have gone and fought and

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died and done the whole thing.
I I I have no doubt that I

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didn't have.
I have, but I have honor and I

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have all those things that would
go with that.

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So I don't think that that is
truly love or is that just?

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Is that from socio economic
disposition as well?

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Is that why you would have done?
That.

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Yeah, very much so.
Yeah, then you have to say.

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Poor people die.
Rich people go to college.

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Then why?
Yeah, that's exactly.

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But that's that's true.
That's.

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Not true.
That seems to be the way it is.

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Not exactly.
And I wonder, yeah, it's funny.

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I wonder if you, based on socio
economic class of who loves

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their country more.
I think if you love your

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country, you're willing to
change it for the better.

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Well, see, that's.
That's a huge aspect of it.

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I think that's what So I've
heard people say, why do you

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always badmouth America?
And you say that we do this and

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it's like, well, I'm from a
place where just like I used to

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badmouth the company that I
helped start, is that it wasn't

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badmouth, it was how can we make
it better?

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How can?
We make it.

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Better.
There, there is.

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You had, you had.
To me, it's like America's a

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wonderful place.
And it's great that we can sit

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here and say, hey, you know,
he's an old fart.

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This guy's an orange turd.
These people are horrible.

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We hate this class of
politicians.

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I think they should all rot in
hell.

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I think we should do have no
military.

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I think the police should go
away.

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I mean I think the idea that
people don't come and arrest me

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and put me in jail for that,
which they do in a bunch of

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countries, they don't do that in
probably the 70 or so, you know

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democracies out there.
But I and I haven't experienced

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them all.
I've experienced a number of

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them.
And so you have a lot of you

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have freedom of speech there.
So I'm not quite so sure that

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freedom is the is the key to
loving the country.

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I think that there is a spirit
in America which I don't see in

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a lot of places.
It's the we can do anything type

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of spirit, which I don't as as a
nation even.

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Even if we don't know how to do
even.

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Even if we can't, even if we
have people that are stupid,

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that are going to be dying in
the front lines to make it

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happen, but but we are willing.
We have in the past.

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I don't know if we are today,
but we have in the past.

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We've been willing to try.
We've been willing to go after.

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We're the ones that would jump
for the ring.

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We're the ones that would jump
off the Cliff to grab the ring.

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And we glad the ring we won.
But if we didn't, oh boop.

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And.
We would and and we would have a

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line to jump on that ring and
that's what I think is that's

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what if I was to say that I
think that's great or that I'd

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love about this country is that
spirit.

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Now when you focus that spirit
on hating a particular group of

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people, I think it's horrible.
But when you focus that spirit

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on doing something, doing
something bigger, doing

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something grander, doing
something that the rest of the

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world isn't doing or hasn't
thought of doing, that I think

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is amazing.
I think that's great.

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I don't think closing your
borders or, you know, doing this

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or that.
I think feeding everybody,

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housing everybody, putting a
house on the moon, putting a A,

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A learning what the bottom of
the true bottom of the Mariana

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trenches.
I mean, we've had people, more

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people have gone to space and
have gone to the bottom of the

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ocean.
It's like that's weird.

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Is that just strange?
James Cameron a A movie director

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went to the bottom of the Oh my
God, yeah, well.

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But a billionaire you gotta you
oh, sorry, as he as as many

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people there there's there's not
as many billionaires as you

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would think.
Is he a billionaire, though?

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I didn't know that.
He I I'm, I would guess so.

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I would guess so.
From, from the movies and from

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all the stuff I'm, you know,
that or.

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Avatar Yeah, and.
And.

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And if it costs, if it costs $10
million to go there, it's like.

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Well, he built the ship, didn't
he?

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Did he not?
We built a he he had a ship

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built for him that was a yacht
that had was totally fully

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electronic.
It was wild.

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In itself, and it was all run by
computers, so everything was.

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This he had a he.
Had a mask that was so tall that

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it would go sideways that.
Oh, I remember that.

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That was crazy.
I've never saw anything.

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I remember seeing that when I
was telling a little that was

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that.
That was a wild.

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That's a wild thing.
I do have to say that.

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I do love James Cameron.
I do have to say, yeah.

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Well, yeah, I mean, they they
produce things that are

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otherworldly.
I.

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Don't know about Bob.
I was.

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I was a joke.
But I haven't told the way of

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water.
You see that one?

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Oh my God.
Yeah.

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When we saw that.
That.

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Oh, wow.
Did you love?

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That I love that movie.
Oh my God.

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And everybody was like, oh, what
a linear way to tell a story.

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And I was like, it's not about
this story.

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It's not it's never been about
this story.

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Well, I guess it's kind of a
story.

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But at the same time, that IMAX
3D, oh gosh, touching a worm on

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log that was programmed like, Oh
my.

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It was.
It was.

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It was beautiful.
So, well, that's that's, that's

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it.
You know, it's like when you

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think about things that you
really, really like and and and

449
00:21:34,920 --> 00:21:36,920
you know books.
There are any books that you

450
00:21:36,920 --> 00:21:38,480
love.
You know, when we think about

451
00:21:38,480 --> 00:21:41,640
love, there's so many different
ways that you can Is it country?

452
00:21:41,640 --> 00:21:42,640
Is it?
Is it?

453
00:21:43,120 --> 00:21:45,440
Is it direct family?
Is it indirect family?

454
00:21:45,440 --> 00:21:47,960
Your friends, Do you love your
friends?

455
00:21:47,960 --> 00:21:50,600
Of course.
You know, some of them.

456
00:21:50,840 --> 00:21:51,520
Telling.
Them.

457
00:21:51,520 --> 00:21:52,440
All of them.
A few of them.

458
00:21:53,760 --> 00:21:54,800
Only one, you know.
There's only.

459
00:21:57,080 --> 00:22:00,120
One I have a few, I have a few,
but then it's sort of like, I

460
00:22:00,160 --> 00:22:05,880
mean, I don't I I would say
there's a line between, you

461
00:22:05,880 --> 00:22:08,200
know, love and what I don't
know.

462
00:22:08,840 --> 00:22:10,640
I I try to figure out what that
is 'cause I don't.

463
00:22:11,280 --> 00:22:13,440
You can't generalize.
It though it's, it's not.

464
00:22:13,480 --> 00:22:14,800
It's not the.
Same, I think you're over

465
00:22:14,840 --> 00:22:17,040
generalizing.
It's really not the same and.

466
00:22:17,040 --> 00:22:19,120
It's.
You know, and it's like, you

467
00:22:19,120 --> 00:22:22,560
know, when loving a friend or
loving your son or loving a wife

468
00:22:22,800 --> 00:22:26,720
or completely different things.
Even though love, the same word

469
00:22:26,720 --> 00:22:27,920
would be defined the same way,
right?

470
00:22:27,920 --> 00:22:28,600
No, exactly.
Yeah.

471
00:22:29,840 --> 00:22:33,160
You know, And they're all three.
An inanimate object you know, A

472
00:22:33,160 --> 00:22:35,840
book, a country, a which.
Is.

473
00:22:35,840 --> 00:22:37,280
Well, that's over a
generalization.

474
00:22:37,360 --> 00:22:41,240
Yeah.
Or a person and a person how

475
00:22:41,240 --> 00:22:44,480
they fit into the your
relationship is a, you know is

476
00:22:44,480 --> 00:22:47,000
whatever makes you up and you go
to yourself like wow.

477
00:22:47,040 --> 00:22:52,960
It's that is kind of like wow.
Yeah, well you're you're what, a

478
00:22:52,960 --> 00:22:56,440
third my age I guess.
How is your love progressed from

479
00:22:56,440 --> 00:22:59,680
when you were like little knee
drop kid to like now you're in

480
00:22:59,680 --> 00:23:02,640
your mid 20s and it's like what
do you, what do you think?

481
00:23:02,680 --> 00:23:05,280
I never knew what it was.
I still don't think I know what

482
00:23:05,280 --> 00:23:06,560
it is.
I think I'm still trying to

483
00:23:06,560 --> 00:23:08,080
figure it out.
Yeah.

484
00:23:08,400 --> 00:23:10,440
Who wasn't Asked me when I was
back the other day.

485
00:23:10,440 --> 00:23:12,680
And I'm asking if I'd ever been
a month before.

486
00:23:12,760 --> 00:23:14,360
And I was like, no, no, I don't
think I have.

487
00:23:15,080 --> 00:23:17,640
I don't think that I have.
I mean, not familiar wise.

488
00:23:17,640 --> 00:23:21,360
But in like a relationship like
that, every time that I thought

489
00:23:21,360 --> 00:23:25,960
I was, I was sorely mistaken.
Well, do you?

490
00:23:26,280 --> 00:23:26,760
Do you?
Why?

491
00:23:27,040 --> 00:23:30,200
Why were you mistaken?
Why was I mistaken?

492
00:23:30,960 --> 00:23:34,040
Maybe in the instant?
Maybe it was, it had to do with

493
00:23:34,040 --> 00:23:37,520
time, maybe in a certain
allotted amount of time.

494
00:23:37,520 --> 00:23:40,000
I was.
But can you say that you never

495
00:23:40,000 --> 00:23:42,120
were if you were for only a
short time?

496
00:23:42,240 --> 00:23:45,400
That's an interesting question
in itself, yeah.

497
00:23:46,000 --> 00:23:50,000
See, I had, I thought with
certain people there was certain

498
00:23:50,000 --> 00:23:54,640
feelings of love, but then, you
know, it just went wet.

499
00:23:55,080 --> 00:23:58,600
Whereas there are people that
I've had feelings of love for

500
00:23:58,720 --> 00:24:04,440
that has stayed and has the test
of time, you know.

501
00:24:04,600 --> 00:24:06,560
Hence I've been married for 32
years.

502
00:24:08,320 --> 00:24:09,920
Not that that has anything to do
with love.

503
00:24:10,640 --> 00:24:15,120
It has to do with her tolerance.
How tall are?

504
00:24:15,120 --> 00:24:17,920
She she's really taller, you
know what I mean?

505
00:24:18,120 --> 00:24:19,280
Extremely.
Extremely.

506
00:24:19,280 --> 00:24:22,200
Well, yeah, I mean, but I am
too.

507
00:24:22,760 --> 00:24:25,280
Yes, I think that's the one
that's what you.

508
00:24:25,280 --> 00:24:26,400
Need.
And I'm just a wonderful,

509
00:24:26,400 --> 00:24:29,920
lovable kind of guy, right?
Yeah, with your little, what is

510
00:24:29,960 --> 00:24:30,800
it?
Is it Denver?

511
00:24:31,360 --> 00:24:32,560
The Denver man?
Denver man, no.

512
00:24:33,000 --> 00:24:35,080
But that's funny.
It's if you were only for a

513
00:24:35,080 --> 00:24:36,680
short time, then you say that
you never were.

514
00:24:36,960 --> 00:24:38,880
And I think yeah.
And I don't.

515
00:24:38,960 --> 00:24:40,680
I don't think that you can say
that you never were, 'cause I

516
00:24:40,680 --> 00:24:42,120
think that comes from a place of
insecurity.

517
00:24:42,680 --> 00:24:44,320
I think that that does.
So I think that you were.

518
00:24:44,480 --> 00:24:47,200
You have to say that you were.
So then I would say that I was

519
00:24:47,200 --> 00:24:49,080
in love a few times.
Yeah, yeah, exactly.

520
00:24:49,080 --> 00:24:50,680
And then I I was and then I
wasn't.

521
00:24:51,120 --> 00:24:52,240
Yeah, 'cause that's what's
weird.

522
00:24:52,240 --> 00:24:56,520
It's sort of like and well and
and certain ones the love took a

523
00:24:56,520 --> 00:24:59,200
while to leave and other ones
the love left like 2 days.

524
00:25:00,560 --> 00:25:04,320
No, I I think you there has to
be at least a time period which

525
00:25:04,360 --> 00:25:07,120
is five or six months.
Yeah, I think we call it

526
00:25:07,120 --> 00:25:09,800
infatuation if it's.
Not that's infatuation in the

527
00:25:09,800 --> 00:25:11,440
beginning.
I wouldn't say that that is

528
00:25:11,480 --> 00:25:13,920
necessarily there's.
Stars, stars.

529
00:25:13,920 --> 00:25:17,280
Stars the the honeymoon phase.
I think that's what they

530
00:25:17,320 --> 00:25:17,760
thought.
Yeah.

531
00:25:18,000 --> 00:25:22,560
But yeah, I think you need it's
built on something, it's built

532
00:25:22,560 --> 00:25:25,120
on the experiences, and you
can't just say it.

533
00:25:25,120 --> 00:25:29,400
Out we built this city.
On rock'n'roll maybe?

534
00:25:29,600 --> 00:25:32,400
You think rock'n'roll could be
the reason for the basis for all

535
00:25:32,400 --> 00:25:34,000
love?
You know what I was watching the

536
00:25:34,000 --> 00:25:35,760
other day was the Tenacious D
movie.

537
00:25:36,000 --> 00:25:40,480
And do you know that Meatloaf is
the dad in the beginning when

538
00:25:40,480 --> 00:25:43,360
there's like child Jack Black?
Yeah, yeah.

539
00:25:43,440 --> 00:25:45,320
I do not know.
Did you know that that was?

540
00:25:45,320 --> 00:25:46,680
Meatloaf.
No, I didn't.

541
00:25:46,680 --> 00:25:48,440
I was shocked.
My friend said that.

542
00:25:48,440 --> 00:25:54,000
I was like, wow, then that kid
went on become the the older

543
00:25:54,000 --> 00:25:56,400
brother in The Goldbergs.
Really.

544
00:25:56,400 --> 00:25:57,680
We should be getting paid for
these ads.

545
00:25:58,000 --> 00:25:59,280
We should be getting.
It should be.

546
00:25:59,280 --> 00:26:00,480
It should come back.
We should.

547
00:26:00,560 --> 00:26:02,040
Really be getting paid for these
ads right now?

548
00:26:02,280 --> 00:26:04,680
Yeah, but yeah, maybe.
Joe Rogan should know.

549
00:26:05,320 --> 00:26:07,600
We'll send an e-mail out after.
This we'll send one out.

550
00:26:07,600 --> 00:26:09,760
We plugged your show.
And we also plugged, yeah, we

551
00:26:09,760 --> 00:26:12,160
plugged your show.
We should get at least for our

552
00:26:12,160 --> 00:26:15,560
five listeners.
We $0.75, you know, or 12

553
00:26:15,560 --> 00:26:18,200
listeners or you said 30?
Last time I.

554
00:26:18,760 --> 00:26:20,960
Was like, whoa, what's going on?
Who are these people?

555
00:26:21,800 --> 00:26:23,960
Consistency.
The funniest thing is is.

556
00:26:24,200 --> 00:26:27,120
That we, we, we talk about a lot
of interesting topics and it's

557
00:26:27,120 --> 00:26:28,760
like we connect.
Yeah.

558
00:26:29,040 --> 00:26:33,000
And I think that our connection
allows people to at least this

559
00:26:33,000 --> 00:26:35,040
is what I've been told and this
is what I this is where love

560
00:26:35,040 --> 00:26:36,160
comes in.
Yeah.

561
00:26:36,200 --> 00:26:41,720
Where where we do this?
Because I frankly love you and I

562
00:26:41,720 --> 00:26:45,640
believe I'm pretty secure in the
fact that you love me.

563
00:26:46,000 --> 00:26:50,240
And I think that when we do
this, that we allow people to

564
00:26:50,320 --> 00:26:55,040
see that there is the capability
to connect with a family member,

565
00:26:55,040 --> 00:26:58,400
father, son, daughter, son,
daughter, daughter, mother,

566
00:26:58,400 --> 00:27:01,320
father, whatever the hell in
many different ways.

567
00:27:01,320 --> 00:27:04,640
And just in a in a straight
commutative way 'cause I think a

568
00:27:04,640 --> 00:27:07,760
lot of people don't have that
ability.

569
00:27:07,760 --> 00:27:09,920
They they may have love, but
they don't know how to show it

570
00:27:09,920 --> 00:27:13,040
or say it or do it.
You know, it's a scary thing.

571
00:27:13,040 --> 00:27:13,880
Scary.
It's scary.

572
00:27:14,000 --> 00:27:17,920
Well, it's showing a
vulnerability to someone that

573
00:27:17,920 --> 00:27:20,960
could, you know and squash you.
Yeah.

574
00:27:21,040 --> 00:27:21,440
Yeah.
No.

575
00:27:21,480 --> 00:27:24,880
They know everything about them.
They could hurt you bad and it

576
00:27:25,120 --> 00:27:27,920
and it hurts bad when you when
you look at someone and you say,

577
00:27:27,920 --> 00:27:31,360
hey, you know, I really love you
and they're like, well, time for

578
00:27:31,360 --> 00:27:35,120
me to move on.
Time for me to get out of here.

579
00:27:35,120 --> 00:27:39,360
Oh my God.
No, but that's something I've

580
00:27:39,480 --> 00:27:41,480
always well, that's what I've
always liked about our

581
00:27:41,480 --> 00:27:44,240
relationship is it's something,
and mom's relationship with me

582
00:27:44,240 --> 00:27:46,920
as well is that it's something
that I've always wanted to share

583
00:27:46,920 --> 00:27:49,920
with others to show them that
that it's possible.

584
00:27:50,760 --> 00:27:53,600
A lot of people, maybe not a
lot, but a few people have come

585
00:27:53,600 --> 00:27:55,120
up to me and they said, well, I
listen to your podcast, I

586
00:27:55,120 --> 00:28:00,280
started talking about bad again.
It's I'm like, I was like I I

587
00:28:00,480 --> 00:28:03,320
every time like, thank you,
Thank you for doing that.

588
00:28:03,320 --> 00:28:06,600
Thank you for telling me that,
because that is invaluable.

589
00:28:06,600 --> 00:28:10,920
Oh my gosh, when we started
this, this is all about.

590
00:28:11,720 --> 00:28:15,520
Yeah, when we started this, it
was about you having a way to

591
00:28:15,520 --> 00:28:18,560
record all the bullshit lies
that I told exactly.

592
00:28:18,560 --> 00:28:21,480
And now you have them.
Now you can verify them and and

593
00:28:21,480 --> 00:28:23,360
if anybody else listens to them,
they can prove that they're

594
00:28:23,360 --> 00:28:29,120
wrong or correct or true.
And and and sadly, most of them

595
00:28:29,120 --> 00:28:35,160
are truthful, you know?
I mean, one thing I have is

596
00:28:35,160 --> 00:28:37,560
resiliency, you know?
Yeah, you know.

597
00:28:38,120 --> 00:28:41,200
It's one one thing I've had the
ability to do is like throw me

598
00:28:41,200 --> 00:28:43,920
down and I bounce up.
I'm a Weeble, you know, Weebles

599
00:28:43,920 --> 00:28:46,280
Wobble.
But we use that term four times

600
00:28:46,560 --> 00:28:47,920
except a second.
Really.

601
00:28:47,920 --> 00:28:50,400
Yeah, we should have a Weeble
counter at the top right corner.

602
00:28:50,400 --> 00:28:52,320
I think we're.
Gonna Oh well, Weeble counter.

603
00:28:52,320 --> 00:28:54,840
I like that.
I like that tick tick, tick.

604
00:28:54,840 --> 00:28:57,440
I don't like AI, don't like a
cat noisy.

605
00:28:59,520 --> 00:29:01,640
I remember that when you were a
little kid.

606
00:29:01,920 --> 00:29:03,120
My God.
What Khaki.

607
00:29:03,240 --> 00:29:06,280
How's it?
Yeah, khaki, khaki, khaki was

608
00:29:06,280 --> 00:29:12,600
this little screamy cat that
would, if he touched it in his

609
00:29:12,600 --> 00:29:20,240
crib, it would go around.
And it would do this in the

610
00:29:20,240 --> 00:29:21,920
middle of the night because he
would roll over and we would be

611
00:29:21,920 --> 00:29:26,080
just like, oh shit, you know, my
cousin Holden gave it to us and

612
00:29:26,080 --> 00:29:27,720
it was just like the funniest
thing in.

613
00:29:27,720 --> 00:29:29,600
The world.
You can get something to him.

614
00:29:30,320 --> 00:29:31,360
To I don't know.
I must have been.

615
00:29:31,360 --> 00:29:33,120
I did something horrible, I'm
sure.

616
00:29:34,400 --> 00:29:38,360
If you think about a children's
toy too for a sleeping baby that

617
00:29:38,520 --> 00:29:40,440
night, how did that can be
great?

618
00:29:41,040 --> 00:29:43,000
That was great, no?
But we loved it.

619
00:29:43,000 --> 00:29:44,280
Though I think we still have it
too.

620
00:29:44,480 --> 00:29:45,760
We should pull it out next
episode.

621
00:29:45,760 --> 00:29:46,400
We.
Still do.

622
00:29:46,400 --> 00:29:47,520
And you loved it.
You.

623
00:29:47,680 --> 00:29:49,280
You I want to see it.
I think I know what it looks

624
00:29:49,280 --> 00:29:50,680
like too.
You love it, man.

625
00:29:50,680 --> 00:29:52,200
You loved it.
I don't know if he still does

626
00:29:52,200 --> 00:29:55,000
all that long.
We can put batteries in there.

627
00:29:56,200 --> 00:29:58,680
Probably so, but your mom would
probably then break it into a

628
00:29:58,680 --> 00:30:03,680
million pieces because that was
the 2:00 AM wake up call.

629
00:30:03,680 --> 00:30:07,280
Was you rolling, you know?
You want food?

630
00:30:08,320 --> 00:30:10,280
You know, and then it'd be pop
up and I'm like, I can't do

631
00:30:10,280 --> 00:30:12,200
anything.
You got to go over there because

632
00:30:12,200 --> 00:30:14,560
he needs your body, not mine.
Are you saying you didn't

633
00:30:14,560 --> 00:30:16,240
breastfeed me?
You know I didn't.

634
00:30:16,360 --> 00:30:18,240
I would bottle Feed you.
I bottle.

635
00:30:18,240 --> 00:30:21,360
I do.
Many many, many, many many many

636
00:30:21,360 --> 00:30:22,680
way too many nights.
Oh.

637
00:30:23,400 --> 00:30:24,640
Up until I did that the other
30.

638
00:30:24,640 --> 00:30:27,680
The first time, and that was
that was a hell of AI.

639
00:30:27,680 --> 00:30:30,200
Didn't realize that it takes a
baby so long to eat.

640
00:30:30,880 --> 00:30:33,040
Yeah, takes him forever.
I was holding the guy for like

641
00:30:33,080 --> 00:30:37,520
2-3 hours too.
I no, I was like an hour, like

642
00:30:37,520 --> 00:30:39,280
probably an hour.
And your arms get all like

643
00:30:39,480 --> 00:30:41,320
hurty, and they get all hurty
and so on.

644
00:30:41,720 --> 00:30:44,160
There's not a big enough hole in
the little the milk thing.

645
00:30:45,000 --> 00:30:47,160
Oh, is that what that is?
Might be I don't.

646
00:30:47,160 --> 00:30:49,600
Know maybe I was doing a.
Little fire hose.

647
00:30:49,600 --> 00:30:52,480
I just take the damn top off and
open your mouth and dump it in

648
00:30:52,480 --> 00:30:53,720
there.
Go like break it, take it now,

649
00:30:53,920 --> 00:30:54,800
do you?
Have a funnel.

650
00:30:54,880 --> 00:30:57,120
You put a funnel in there.
Hell no, I didn't use a funnel.

651
00:30:57,120 --> 00:30:58,840
I just open your mouth and
dumped it on your face and it

652
00:30:58,840 --> 00:31:02,040
rolled off the side and it's
like, hey, you slept in them

653
00:31:02,040 --> 00:31:04,680
sour milk.
Until the next day and then and

654
00:31:04,800 --> 00:31:06,840
the wife would yell at me and
say what happened here and I

655
00:31:06,840 --> 00:31:07,920
said, I don't know, he must have
puked.

656
00:31:10,680 --> 00:31:12,840
And that's how he got out of
feeding me early on.

657
00:31:12,840 --> 00:31:18,000
That's that's how he got out of.
I was just showing my love, man.

658
00:31:18,120 --> 00:31:21,480
I was just showing my love, OK?
Because this is about love.

659
00:31:21,480 --> 00:31:23,400
I.
Don't even have memories from.

660
00:31:24,320 --> 00:31:26,800
That that's funny.
But it's to think that I don't

661
00:31:26,800 --> 00:31:29,240
have memories, but at the same
time, but there's something

662
00:31:29,240 --> 00:31:31,280
ingrained in the business.
Subconscious probably.

663
00:31:31,920 --> 00:31:34,080
Yeah, it has.
Remember something?

664
00:31:34,520 --> 00:31:41,320
I think that how you treat that
infant up until they're 2345 and

665
00:31:41,320 --> 00:31:44,000
not just think, I mean you can
look at scientific studies, you

666
00:31:44,000 --> 00:31:47,760
know, how you treat that child
at the early age is going to

667
00:31:47,760 --> 00:31:53,840
have a huge effect of them later
in high school and grade school

668
00:31:53,840 --> 00:31:57,000
and life.
You know you can't correct

669
00:31:57,040 --> 00:32:01,960
horrible behavior at 11.
It's 'cause you gave it to them

670
00:32:02,000 --> 00:32:03,280
early on.
You know the.

671
00:32:03,560 --> 00:32:06,320
Technique.
You can, you can modify it and

672
00:32:06,320 --> 00:32:10,320
you and if and if you put a
grain of what do you call it,

673
00:32:10,320 --> 00:32:13,160
integrity into the kid.
You know, at some point the kids

674
00:32:13,160 --> 00:32:17,440
going to go like this is my
responsibility and that's what

675
00:32:17,440 --> 00:32:18,920
you're really looking for as a
parent.

676
00:32:18,920 --> 00:32:22,640
If you're looking for the person
to go like, wow, my old man's

677
00:32:22,760 --> 00:32:25,320
this horror, this horror, this
horror, this horror.

678
00:32:25,840 --> 00:32:28,320
And then you say to yourself
when you get that age that you

679
00:32:28,320 --> 00:32:30,920
still have those four things and
it's like, well, I'm 21, how the

680
00:32:30,920 --> 00:32:32,600
hell can I blame him for these
four things?

681
00:32:32,760 --> 00:32:37,240
No, it's me now if I want to be,
you know, a whore monger, A

682
00:32:37,240 --> 00:32:40,880
drunkard, A murderer, you know,
a a drug addict or dealer,

683
00:32:41,000 --> 00:32:42,920
whatever.
That's that's my choice.

684
00:32:42,920 --> 00:32:45,560
I've made that at that at some
point I have to look in the

685
00:32:45,560 --> 00:32:47,160
mirror and say like, hey, this
is me.

686
00:32:48,520 --> 00:32:51,840
It's weird how we this is love
goes except love.

687
00:32:52,160 --> 00:32:53,280
Yourself.
Isn't it?

688
00:32:53,760 --> 00:32:58,440
Yeah, Well, I I think that that
is just generative of what you

689
00:32:58,440 --> 00:33:02,160
were taught how to love, like.
Yeah, or something like that.

690
00:33:02,640 --> 00:33:03,920
Well, we never had it in our
family.

691
00:33:03,920 --> 00:33:05,640
I mean, we never said.
It, which is always something

692
00:33:05,640 --> 00:33:09,440
that I am astounded by, is how
you turned out and how you

693
00:33:09,440 --> 00:33:12,040
treated me.
And it doesn't make any sense

694
00:33:12,360 --> 00:33:13,680
really.
It it really doesn't for.

695
00:33:13,680 --> 00:33:14,160
Me.
Well, I never.

696
00:33:14,160 --> 00:33:17,040
I never.
I don't remember never, boy.

697
00:33:17,200 --> 00:33:19,240
I never heard the words.
Never heard the words from any

698
00:33:19,240 --> 00:33:22,200
one of my family members.
I don't think unless I said it

699
00:33:22,240 --> 00:33:26,040
first but I but but I don't And
I think that was a it was a

700
00:33:26,040 --> 00:33:32,040
different time but also there's
like, well, there was a belief

701
00:33:32,040 --> 00:33:34,520
that if we provided for you that
that's love enough.

702
00:33:34,520 --> 00:33:37,240
What do you want?
You know I tucked you in at

703
00:33:37,240 --> 00:33:39,360
night.
I, I I read your stories.

704
00:33:39,360 --> 00:33:41,760
I helped you read I helped you
do this that and the other like

705
00:33:41,920 --> 00:33:43,160
that's love.
What else do you want?

706
00:33:43,600 --> 00:33:47,200
Well, I I would want some
holding and cuddling and all

707
00:33:47,200 --> 00:33:48,680
that kind of happy physical
shit.

708
00:33:48,680 --> 00:33:50,920
Too verbal.
Affirmation, I think is

709
00:33:51,160 --> 00:33:52,680
something that is shorted all
on.

710
00:33:53,120 --> 00:33:56,320
Yeah, and verbal's OK but it But
The thing is, is I would I.

711
00:33:56,320 --> 00:33:59,120
Think Verbal's undervalued I.
Personally, for me, it's more

712
00:33:59,120 --> 00:34:01,600
physical touch.
I think that I think that that's

713
00:34:01,600 --> 00:34:04,480
where I was shorted and that's
why I'm very touchy feely is

714
00:34:04,480 --> 00:34:07,040
because I'm always looking to
grab people and hold them and

715
00:34:07,040 --> 00:34:08,520
hug them.
Because I think that that's

716
00:34:08,520 --> 00:34:11,760
something that I didn't get and
it's something that that's why

717
00:34:12,000 --> 00:34:13,480
every time I meet people, I hug
them.

718
00:34:14,199 --> 00:34:15,560
People like, why are you a
hugger?

719
00:34:15,560 --> 00:34:20,520
And it's like I'm a pervert.
No, it's because no, it's just

720
00:34:20,520 --> 00:34:26,360
sort of like I feel energy and I
get, I get I literally get I.

721
00:34:26,520 --> 00:34:28,639
Feel.
Better when people hug me.

722
00:34:28,719 --> 00:34:33,120
It's just and it's not like
sexual, it's just like it's just

723
00:34:34,040 --> 00:34:36,440
it's just it makes me feel
better inside.

724
00:34:36,520 --> 00:34:38,000
I don't know why it's.
Affirming.

725
00:34:38,040 --> 00:34:40,320
It's affirming in the
relationship with that.

726
00:34:40,320 --> 00:34:44,040
Person with anybody and it's
male, female, rabbit, cat.

727
00:34:44,040 --> 00:34:46,639
I don't give a.
Shit, you know I have seen you

728
00:34:46,719 --> 00:34:50,159
cuddle the chinchillas.
But never an alligator.

729
00:34:50,560 --> 00:34:52,080
Never.
Never an alligator.

730
00:34:52,400 --> 00:34:53,159
Not again.
No.

731
00:34:53,159 --> 00:34:55,080
We we tried that one time.
Did not work out.

732
00:34:55,080 --> 00:34:56,040
Wow.
We tried that.

733
00:34:56,120 --> 00:34:59,120
Ask Edwin.
He'll tell you I have held them,

734
00:34:59,120 --> 00:35:00,640
but.
We were talking about, yeah,

735
00:35:00,920 --> 00:35:02,400
baby ones.
Not though, not the.

736
00:35:02,400 --> 00:35:06,120
Yeah, the other ones.
Gosh, oh man.

737
00:35:06,160 --> 00:35:08,320
But I think we're coming up on
our time here.

738
00:35:08,560 --> 00:35:11,440
Yeah, I was gonna say that this
is a very, very.

739
00:35:11,440 --> 00:35:13,680
Deep topic.
This was a wonderful

740
00:35:13,680 --> 00:35:16,280
competition.
And we kind of, we kind of dug

741
00:35:16,280 --> 00:35:18,960
pretty deep into it and then you
know we did, we threw a few

742
00:35:18,960 --> 00:35:23,400
Perry's in there to kind of
sidestep it for the most part we

743
00:35:23,400 --> 00:35:25,160
talked about it.
And that was wonderful.

744
00:35:25,160 --> 00:35:26,720
I'm impressed.
That's a really, really good.

745
00:35:27,000 --> 00:35:28,160
I was.
I was surprised.

746
00:35:28,160 --> 00:35:30,680
I I didn't think I had it in me
or I didn't think you had it in

747
00:35:30,680 --> 00:35:32,680
you.
And I thought we would be like,

748
00:35:32,880 --> 00:35:34,880
well, I don't know.
No.

749
00:35:34,880 --> 00:35:36,480
Well, that's something I always.
Hell with you.

750
00:35:36,480 --> 00:35:39,280
Let's go get a beer.
I tend to go go out of my way to

751
00:35:39,520 --> 00:35:42,080
to draw that out of people.
Yeah, I try.

752
00:35:42,080 --> 00:35:44,720
I tried to, yeah.
Not forcefully, of course.

753
00:35:44,720 --> 00:35:46,280
I'll call you Howard Stern.
You're the.

754
00:35:46,280 --> 00:35:49,120
Great interviewer?
Yeah, it'll make people feel

755
00:35:49,640 --> 00:35:52,080
comforted in their lives.
Pull on that note.

756
00:35:52,120 --> 00:35:57,440
Always been my mission, but
yeah, no, I think that was

757
00:35:57,440 --> 00:35:59,360
great.
And to our listeners, we have AQ

758
00:35:59,360 --> 00:36:04,480
and a section in the Spotify.
So ask us questions or just give

759
00:36:04,480 --> 00:36:06,080
us answers.
And rate US.

760
00:36:06,160 --> 00:36:07,200
You know, just give us.
More.

761
00:36:07,200 --> 00:36:08,560
Call me a liar.
I love that.

762
00:36:08,840 --> 00:36:11,360
I mean, we should probably offer
people like a dollar.

763
00:36:11,360 --> 00:36:13,600
We'll mail them a check for $5
if they call Phil A.

764
00:36:13,600 --> 00:36:15,760
Liar.
We For every question and answer

765
00:36:15,800 --> 00:36:21,000
that you post, we will send you
$5 up to up up to $5.

766
00:36:21,720 --> 00:36:23,800
I'm going to raise my hand.
This is my promise.

767
00:36:23,800 --> 00:36:26,280
This is my promise.
There we go.

768
00:36:27,000 --> 00:36:28,480
Is that your?
That's your left hand.

769
00:36:29,360 --> 00:36:30,560
Is it?
Is it left or right?

770
00:36:30,800 --> 00:36:32,200
I don't know, man.
You just did the wrong.

771
00:36:32,200 --> 00:36:32,960
I'll.
I'll do both.

772
00:36:33,520 --> 00:36:34,160
There we go.
OK.

773
00:36:34,360 --> 00:36:35,840
Double promise.
OK.

774
00:36:36,280 --> 00:36:37,280
But.
Party on, old man.

775
00:36:37,280 --> 00:36:40,480
Party on everybody.
Have a great new year.