May 30, 2025
Episode 99: Loneliness
We talk about the difference of being alone verses loneliness.
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Hey guys, welcome back to
another episode of record My
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father.
Today we're going to be talking
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about loneliness.
I, I think I came up with a, an
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idea recently on my trip about
being an only child and when you
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lose your parents and how you're
lonely in the world.
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And I thought that this was an
interesting concept.
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Well, is that a loneliness or
that's alone?
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You're alone.
You'll be by yourself.
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But the theory is that that you
know you.
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That's why you make connections,
right?
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Yeah, yeah.
But I've been 20, above the age
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of about 40 that I know has
three friends.
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So I don't know, really
interesting.
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It's an interesting concept.
Yeah.
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Well, then people, I don't know
if that's really true, because
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then you have people, large
networks of people at least
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don't see people as much because
I think people get comfortable
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in the house.
They do, yes, that's something.
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Yes, I would say that as we get
older, we're our, our, our
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families become our primary, our
immediate family becomes the
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primary thing.
Like my brothers and sisters, I
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see quite frequently, you know,
or, and I talked to and so does
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my so does my wife.
We see her family quite
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frequently.
And when you think about it,
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though, it's like, you know,
you, I mean her, her mother,
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it's 8284 and she sees her every
week because she's at a point
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where, you know, as you get
older, you start to, you tend to
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realize that there's a limited
amount of time.
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You know, when you're, when
you're younger like you is like
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you, you don't even see that you
have 4050, sixty years.
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You know, you're 26 years old.
I'm 65.
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I'm what, almost 40 years older
than you.
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So I realized that I got people
dropping dead around me.
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Well, you know, what I'll ask
you is, you know, like when
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you're like 5 or 6 and a day
feels like forever because it's
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in comparison to your whole
life, Right.
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And how?
Yeah.
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And how the amount of time?
Every day gets shorter as you
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get older.
When did you really start
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noticing that the days were
shorter?
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Probably I started setting, you
know, I don't know.
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I, I can't, I have to.
I, I just thought that I didn't,
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I didn't notice it.
Now I notice that they may be
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shorter, but they're not filled
with this much.
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I mean, I used to have, my days
were filled with tons and tons
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of things.
And when I, and when I worked,
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they were done with work and
people and food and this and
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that and that.
And now it's just like I eat
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less, I weigh more, I do less.
I'm physically, you know, what
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do you call it?
Feeble.
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Well, yeah, you're just walking
outside and you're breaking your
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ankle these days.
Yeah, I know.
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I just.
Did it again.
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Do you think you broke your
ankle?
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I I fell down on the on the
shed.
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I slipped on that thing.
I told her that and that messed
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up.
That re injured my shoulder and.
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They just got surgery on.
Right.
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And then I had, what was it to
I, you know, I, I, I walked too
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far and I reenter my Achilles
because I have a torn Achilles
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tendon and it takes supposed to
be 6 months and it's, you know,
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and, and every couple weeks I
just think it's feels good and I
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go for a long walk.
And then I realized that I
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messed up.
Well, that was the thing that I
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was dealing with when I was 15.
I broke my ankle and then I I
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went back to skating, I think a
month early.
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Yeah.
I don't really regret it.
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I think I'm good.
I don't know.
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It doesn't.
It didn't, it didn't bother you
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'cause you're younger.
What was on the growth plate as
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well?
It wasn't like I shattered it.
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I didn't shatter the the ball
and socket joint.
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I just shattered or I just.
That's what I did.
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Like the yeah, that's bad.
Yeah, the growth plate is really
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bad or really good.
Really good.
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Not that, but yeah, being alone
versus loneliness, I would say
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being alone.
I you can enjoy being alone.
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I remember the pandemic.
I didn't really bother well.
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You and mom are, by the way.
You're more introverted.
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Whereas me, I if I'm alone, I'll
just die.
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Yeah, I will just wilt and die.
I needed to.
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I need to recharge though.
What have you recharged?
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You never recharged.
Me.
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Yeah.
How was that?
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Typically I sleep.
Well, without, what can you do
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it?
Like, can you recharge?
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Like say we're on vacation,
right?
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With 20 people, could you be
around them all the time, every
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day?
No, no.
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Usually by day six or seven.
I usually plan this in all my
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travels.
If I'm going with a couple of
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friends, we always have this get
the hell away from me day.
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It's the only way to to because
for some reason, when you're
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with someone that you're not
married to or not really, you
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know, you, you get tired of them
for whatever reason, you they're
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you're not with them all the
time and they might have a
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nuance.
They might, they might butter
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their bread different than you
do and you just, it just fucking
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annoys you for no reason And,
and it's just and you need just
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a break to not do stupid things.
Well, there's some time you.
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Know I found that for me that
that makes it really, really,
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really enjoyable.
It's like, ah, we're going to go
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we're going to go hiking today.
You do your thing and we would
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do just do different things when
we travel with couples and stuff
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and it's it's just wonderful.
I'm I'm lucky traveling with
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your mom.
We we get along really well.
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I mean, for the most part, she's
not always wrong, but when she
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is, you know, I feel the brunt
of it.
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You know what it is too for me
is vocal.
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She doesn't.
Listen to these so I can say
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anything I want.
Vocal intonation after a certain
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amount of days together, just
kind of like the person's voice
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pisses you off.
I don't know why is that?
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After a certain amount of time
with somebody, you're like, man,
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just the way you talk bothers
me.
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I really would want to know what
the the the medical kind of sign
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is for that.
I know it's just being around
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them too much, but it's why in
the beginning was I not bothered
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by the way that they spoke, but
now I am and the.
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Opposite of loneliness.
Well, they always say that when
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you marry someone, those cute
little habits will turn into
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annoying pains in the asses
things.
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The honeymoon.
I like the.
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Yeah, I like the way you crinkle
your nose.
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Why aren't you always putting
your nose like a prune, lady?
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You know, I like the way that
you do this.
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Why you do that all the time?
Well, because you said you don't
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like that.
I don't know.
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I don't like it that much.
Well, that's the four month
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period, yeah.
They say it's like, you know,
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you're in love with somebody
after four months.
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Really.
I think that that's what it was.
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Yeah, 'cause I don't think it
was about.
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That yeah, I kind of felt like I
was in Lubbock probably.
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It was pretty quick.
Were you?
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Proposed after six months What?
Was it something, well, like
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that?
Yeah.
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Yeah, that's that's pretty.
But you were like sure, how old
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were?
You 3030 thirty.
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That's right, 2930.
Right there.
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OK.
So I met her and we were inside
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of five months.
We lived together, you know.
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I think at that age too, I don't
know, 'cause I think we're.
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Ready.
We're both really ready for a
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stable relationship where the
person wasn't I.
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I have never been a person who
wanted someone that was going to
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be with me, that was needy.
And that was, I mean, I'm
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somewhat clingy myself, but I
don't, I don't, I, I don't want
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to think for a woman.
I don't want to make decisions
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for a woman.
I want a woman to make decisions
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for herself.
And and I want to be in a
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relationship with someone where,
well, you know, the man is the
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head of that.
No, I don't fuck that, that I, I
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don't, I don't get that.
No, I shouldn't.
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I shouldn't be critical.
I should say that works for some
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people, but it doesn't work for
me.
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Well, that's not.
Completely true, because when
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you she had me she she no longer
worked and I think that that.
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Well, she didn't want well.
She's part of that kind of thing
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that you're talking about.
Oh, where I'm the leader.
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You're the breadwinner.
Yeah.
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Oh yeah.
Breadwinner, yeah, but I didn't.
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I didn't care about being the
breadwinner.
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That wasn't something that
seemed to be.
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I was always in any
relationship.
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So it was an option.
It wasn't necessarily like
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you're going no, OK.
She when she had the kid, she
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could have gone back to work if
she wanted to.
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But, you know, and it was like,
and we were making at that
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point, I was probably pulling in
about 500 KA year.
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So there really wasn't any need
to.
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And we're living in a house that
we could have, we could have
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bought three of them every year,
you know, we weren't living in
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an expensive place, you know.
And so we moved here, you know.
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Yeah, we, I mean, we, we had
moved here and this house was
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probably about one year's
salary, which is really, really,
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really cheap, you know, when you
think about it.
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And I never bought another.
And, you know, and, and now it's
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like what, five times that, six
times that, something like that.
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But I mean, for me, I, I never
once we got to a point where we
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didn't.
She, I, I was more, you were her
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project.
You were more, she took care of
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you.
She she takes care of you and
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that makes me happy.
She makes the doctor's
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appointment.
She does all the stuff she did,
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all your IEP and your whatever,
the IUD shit and all that weird
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stuff.
You got IUD.
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I do actually have three they
they keep forgetting to take
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them out.
That's becoming a problem.
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Yeah, you got to get those.
But but that, that was something
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you know well, you're an only
child, but you, you, you didn't
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seem to be lonely.
No, because you find your own
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fun.
That's what you do, right?
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You make your own fun.
And I don't know, it's kind of
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interesting to looking at other
people that have brothers and
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sisters.
And I remember early on I was
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like, man, that'd be great.
And now that I'm older, I think
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the world out there that I
didn't have a brother or sister
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because having that the focus
from both parents is nothing
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short of a dream, I think.
And I think that a lot of people
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say, well, I love my sister, I
love this.
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I'm like, but you would have
killed for a lot more focus.
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I think that that is the thing
that is undeniably true is that
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a lot of people would get that
up in a second for more focus.
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And more.
Yeah, I mean, interestingly, if
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I if you would have been the 1st
or the second, I mean, would I
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have done what I did?
I mean, if I had a second kid,
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she would have to be over 40 or
we would have we we would have
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had to get lucky earlier, which.
Adoption.
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That would be the only other.
Adoption But I, you know, I
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really, I, I would adopt only if
she had it in her heart that she
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wanted to raise a kid 'cause I
mean, I, I could give a flying
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crap.
I just rather throw money at the
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problem, let somebody else deal
with it.
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That's not something that I'm
personally invested in to raise
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a kid.
I mean, now I look at it and
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say, wow, that'd be kind of cool
to grab kids that are farming
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out.
But then it's like you, you got
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a history of being a I.
I have the same kind of deal and
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that I would only ever have a or
raise a kid if it was my own.
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I don't know why I feel the same
way 'cause it's the 'cause I
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think internally I'm a selfish
person.
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I'm a narcissist.
I'm not.
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I'm not.
I'm not arguing.
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I'm not.
I think it's 'cause I'm a
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narcissistic person and that's
why I would never adopt.
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That's why people, that's what
people say about when you give,
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you know, you give, if you give
money and get and stuff like
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that.
And it's like that you're, I
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mean, I do that for me, 'cause
I'm selfish.
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Like, oh, that's you can't
believe that, you know, And it's
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like, no, it's just it, it's for
me.
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It it makes me happy.
Yeah, but I don't know if I've
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ever been lonely.
I don't know if I ever.
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Lonely.
I don't think I've been lonely.
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Sure.
I think without you.
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Oh, well, yeah, I think.
Well, it's only when there's a
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great quote about loneliness,
and it's only when you're
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thriving for other people around
you, but you can't have access
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to that.
I think that that's what that
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is.
Are you you?
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Well, when you realize it,
that's the.
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Yeah, with the realization if.
You're sitting at home by
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yourself and there's no one
there and there's no one in your
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life.
Then you become that, that I
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guess depressed.
You know, depression is
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different.
Not depression, more sad.
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Do you think it's rooted in the
loneliness?
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I don't think depression is
rooted in the loneliness
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necessarily, but one that maybe
in the not it's a good.
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Trigger I'd imagine.
Oh, a trigger for sure.
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But the inability to overcome a
chemical imbalance in your head,
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I think is more so because I
think, I think, yeah, depression
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is a is a chemical imbalance.
Yeah, in your head, it's like a
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lot of.
Things, you know when you say,
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but, but I mean, if it's an
imbalance, does does it mean
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that, Well, what if everybody's
supposed to be that way?
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Then it's like, is it really
true?
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Well, I think depression, more
so now than ever, exists because
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you have a phone that alters the
endorphins on your day-to-day
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basis.
Yeah, we don't have the, we
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don't have the, the, the
connection.
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I see that people don't have a
connection with each other.
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They don't talk, they don't have
a conversation.
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They have a they have a texting
battle and back and forth.
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And when I text people, I don't
know what they mean.
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I I don't know if you said good
morning or or good morning.
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I don't, I don't know what your
I don't know what your
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inflection was.
I don't know all those things,
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you know, and on a video, the
video like this, I get a lot of
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it and I see it.
This is better.
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But in person, you can't beat in
person for reading people.
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If you, if you, if you care for
someone and you want to read
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like you can tell, you can tell
when they squish, squish their
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fists up or something like that
and they look sad and you, you
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just you know that those are
those are signals.
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Well, your endorphin.
Baseline now is so much higher
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than it was like in the 90s.
I imagine 'cause now you'll get
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a phone in a boost your
endorphins.
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So your body's expecting to
operate at this high level at
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which like you're constantly
high kind of in a way.
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And then when it goes down,
you're like, well, why do I feel
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so weird?
Why do I feel so weird?
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Because your baseline's up here.
And then when you're not on your
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phone and you're not the kind of
around technology, you're
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getting seated by the, the
backlight, you're down here.
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And that's why I think that we
have people killing themselves.
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Isn't that weird that I think
it's like over half of US gun
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deaths are suicide related I
think.
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That's, that's the, that's the
big thing.
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Everyone.
Most.
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Most of them are.
People talk about gun violence
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in this country.
I think they should really talk
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about mental health.
Suicide and then and the number
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one killers are the the veterans
that come back from wars cause
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they've seen shit that you know
ain't natural and ain't normal.
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You know, you see your friend
blow his face off and you're he
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gets killed in front of you and
there's and you can't do
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anything about it.
And then you come back from a
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war and then people start
talking about the war, saying
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that it was a waste of time and
money.
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So you went because you thought
you were fighting for America.
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And then you turned out that you
were just fighting somebody
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because George Bush was pissed
at him.
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Also the the public health
programs or not the public
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health but the the VA is not
great.
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Yeah, well, it's it's better
than it was.
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Oh, certainly not since World
War One.
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Yeah, I would completely agree
it's no longer as shell shot,
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but.
As it gets better, yeah.
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No, that's for sure.
I think my father had PTSD but I
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also I don't think they ever.
He never did anything for that
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in but.
Storm of Beach getting shot if
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he gets shot at, I imagine
you're well, he was shot, you're
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going to have.
So and run over and and beat up
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and you know many, many, many
things.
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I'm going to say that you have
PTSD from even getting shot at
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to begin with, let alone other
things.
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Well that's that's.
It's weird because the the tales
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are there, but when I look for
the documentation I'm having
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trouble finding other
documentation that shows that he
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did something.
Might have stretched the truth,
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I don't know.
Well, yeah, I have no idea, you
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know.
I think a lot of people stretch
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the truth.
I mean, especially if you're
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going over there to fight, you
want to be remembered as a hero,
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not necessarily somebody that
didn't do anything or.
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It does show that he was a he
was a lady.
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He did the beach lead shows that
no doubt in absolutely.
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It shows that he was in Okinawa.
It shows that he was there.
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It doesn't show that he was in
the Korean War.
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Well, the weird thing is is that
was.
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MP, wasn't he?
Yeah, but it doesn't, it doesn't
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show him being in the Korean
War.
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And now here's the weird thing.
He met your, her, my mother.
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Then I think, Laura, I'm not.
I can't figure out how he gets
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out of the military and ends up
in Marion of all places.
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This guy is, You know, there's
no military in college.
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No.
After Graduate joined the Army,
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she was a whack for about 6 or
seven months and then she got an
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honorable discharge and like 51
or 52.
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And what that was is I believe
she became pregnant and I'm not
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quite sure.
And then they had a birth
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certificate for a baby and a
death certificate.
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So I think the kid was born,
stillborn, died, I don't know.
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Very odd.
That is odd.
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You know, but that was the first
of like, my gosh, because we
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would have had that would have
been somebody older than Edwin.
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And how old is Edwin going to
Robbie?
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He's 70, yeah, he's 70.
But we had but and then the old
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man had a sister, 70, I mean,
had another daughter and she's
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72.
She's older than Edwin.
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She's two years older.
So think about that, you know,
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that he leaves one and then or
no, maybe she's 74.
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He's like four or five years
older.
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Not that much, but it's really
odd that he goes from woman to
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woman and has kids right away.
I.
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Feel like a lot of people did
that back then when you went to
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war 'cause you.
Well, he kind of like when.
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He went to war.
That was with the first wife,
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not with the second or third.
Exactly.
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My mother was a third wife.
I'm leaving and I might not see
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you again.
I think that's all what a lot of
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it was cause.
But no, I don't know.
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Because if you think about it,
they didn't really know about
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the death toll until it started.
Yeah, but then when did he did
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he go at the beginning or well,
what time he knew I.
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Don't know.
I mean, he said he was in Korea.
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Oh, in Korea, but before that?
Oh, before that he was in 41.
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The Pacific, right?
Yeah, No, he went, he, yeah,
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they went to Japan.
They were in Okinawa, that was.
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Not the beginning, so lady.
Yeah, that was the beginning for
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us.
We didn't remember.
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Remember, we did not.
We did not get into the war when
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it started.
The war started in 39 when
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Hitler was attacking Poland.
We sat on our hands and said we
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don't want to be involved in
that.
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And there was a great separation
at home.
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We don't know.
We don't want to go over there
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where the foreigners are and do
that.
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Why we want to help the
foreigners.
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We hate the foreigners.
And we want, you know, we are a
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very isolationist.
We're very, same with Woody
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Wilson.
We were very isolationist.
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After Pearl Harbor, yeah, we
only.
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One Pearl Harbor, then we're
like, well, we got to do it now.
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What are you talking about?
World War One.
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World War One, World War 22,
same way.
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Same way.
We you.
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Know, and Roosevelt knew that if
Hitler took over Europe, that he
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was going to, if he, if, if, if
the UK fell that eventually
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they'd come for us, you know, it
wouldn't be right away, but they
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wouldn't, you know, and he'd
have Japan on the other side.
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And slowly but surely they
would.
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And Japan had already defeated
China for all.
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And, you know, it's like, holy
crap, you know?
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Yeah, but I haven't been lonely
lately, I gotta say that.
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Yeah, I don't think so.
Have you been lonely lately?
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I guess a little bit, but I'm,
I'm, I'm, I'm kind of used to it
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now, 'cause, you know, your
mother's gone.
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She went to, when she went to
New Mexico.
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I'm here for 9 days.
I, I deal, you know, But I mean,
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I don't know if it's loneliness
or it's like, it's just
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different.
It's different to be in a place
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for an extended period of time,
more than a day or two, when I
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don't have any contact with
people unless I make the effort,
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you know?
Well, the house you live in too
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is pretty isolated.
Yeah, I live in.
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New York, I wouldn't have a
problem 'cause I'd go out and go
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to the corner coffee everyday
and I meet people and I talk to
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them and it would just be that
whereas here I have to I, I, I
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end up going to Giant.
I go to Giant a bunch of times.
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I go, I go shopping.
I you know and.
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But it's the thing I realize
about McLean, VA is everybody's
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in their own thing because
there's not like a lot of social
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clubs kind of deal.
I don't know, maybe there are
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maybe more.
It's more for younger people, I
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think.
And like Rosslyn, no.
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No, I think there's there's
older.
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Yeah, Ross.
People.
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Social clubs.
Yeah, they don't the, I don't
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know where, you know, they have
painting classes and stuff like
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that.
And I'm thinking, oh, I'm going
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to join some of these and do
learn how to paint or learn how
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to do pottery or whatever.
But I just got to, I got to get
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motivated.
And if you go to like Spring
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Hill, they have they have
classes that you go there and
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Golly says, shoot, there's a
million old people and she we're
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going to do this Chi Dong,
whatever that is.
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Oh yeah, we did that about 10
years ago together.
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I remember that.
What is chi Dong?
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It's they have the, it's like a
gong meditation thing.
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No, wait, that's different.
That's a different thing.
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No, that's the it's more like
Tai Chi if I remember.
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Yeah, yeah, this is where you
you're doing funny little
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stretches and stuff like that
and makes you feel better about
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yourself.
Yeah.
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No, no, I know what you're
talking about.
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Yeah, I don't think I have been.
Well, I've been with somebody
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for the past 13 days.
You and.
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Yeah, me and Christian were in
Mongolia and then Korea.
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So I I was actually starving for
the time to be alone.
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But what's really cool about him
is that, you know, you go on
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trips with people and they play
in every minute and every hour
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and every second and you're
going to be bound at the hip.
446
00:22:29,000 --> 00:22:31,120
He's not like that at all.
It's very.
447
00:22:31,960 --> 00:22:35,000
We could do our own thing except
when we were doing the research
448
00:22:35,000 --> 00:22:37,160
work.
But after that, yeah, we had
449
00:22:37,160 --> 00:22:40,800
like 3 days and we had multiple,
multiple hours apart, which is
450
00:22:40,800 --> 00:22:43,640
really nice.
Yeah, you need that break.
451
00:22:44,280 --> 00:22:48,640
You do, or else you go crazy.
And these little things, they do
452
00:22:48,640 --> 00:22:51,200
bother you, no?
Amount of alcohol in the world
453
00:22:51,200 --> 00:22:54,040
can solve that problem.
Well, that usually that that
454
00:22:54,040 --> 00:22:57,200
exacerbates the situation.
You know, you get, you get a
455
00:22:57,200 --> 00:22:59,680
little drunk and you're like,
fuck you, you know, and you're
456
00:22:59,680 --> 00:23:01,640
like.
But then you smoke the cigarette
457
00:23:01,640 --> 00:23:03,160
and then you're fine.
And then yeah, that.
458
00:23:03,160 --> 00:23:05,120
It all melts away.
It all melts away.
459
00:23:05,480 --> 00:23:09,480
Well, I smoke the cigar so but
we know they're they're worse
460
00:23:09,480 --> 00:23:13,240
because they're wet cigars. 30
cigarettes.
461
00:23:13,920 --> 00:23:15,640
Why are you making yawn man?
What's going on?
462
00:23:15,800 --> 00:23:17,120
Yeah, I don't.
I don't I'm.
463
00:23:17,120 --> 00:23:19,560
Lonely so that that must be the
reason that I'm yawning.
464
00:23:19,680 --> 00:23:21,480
Well, how you going to mitigate
your loneliness?
465
00:23:21,560 --> 00:23:22,240
What do you think?
Me.
466
00:23:22,680 --> 00:23:28,040
Yeah, I need.
To you know what?
467
00:23:28,040 --> 00:23:30,240
What is it?
That old ad I used to say life.
468
00:23:30,920 --> 00:23:33,320
You got to live it.
You got I got to make an effort
469
00:23:33,400 --> 00:23:35,640
to join different things and go
to different things.
470
00:23:35,640 --> 00:23:37,240
Well, you used to go to a gym
too.
471
00:23:37,240 --> 00:23:40,120
That was a public gym.
Or not, maybe not.
472
00:23:40,120 --> 00:23:42,280
But I made one at home and it's
better and I can I can
473
00:23:42,280 --> 00:23:44,440
substitute other things.
Is it better though?
474
00:23:44,440 --> 00:23:45,920
I don't.
I don't know if it's better.
475
00:23:46,560 --> 00:23:48,840
No, no, it's not better.
It's absolutely not better.
476
00:23:49,080 --> 00:23:52,160
But right now I am.
I am injured in so many places
477
00:23:52,160 --> 00:23:54,960
that a gym is not something I
can really do.
478
00:23:55,160 --> 00:23:58,440
It was an idea about what?
Other.
479
00:23:58,440 --> 00:23:59,960
That's what I say.
You know what?
480
00:24:00,240 --> 00:24:02,560
You're fired.
I'm making this about me.
481
00:24:02,560 --> 00:24:06,640
It's going to be called a record
of my Zach, and you're done.
482
00:24:06,680 --> 00:24:09,640
You're cut from.
The team a record of my dad
483
00:24:09,640 --> 00:24:11,880
being a Dick, you know?
What we're going to do, it's
484
00:24:11,880 --> 00:24:16,560
going to be and you're no longer
going to get the Gillette Fusion
485
00:24:16,560 --> 00:24:17,800
razors we've been getting in the
mail.
486
00:24:18,320 --> 00:24:19,680
Really.
I'm not sending them.
487
00:24:19,680 --> 00:24:20,520
Do you?
I'm not sending.
488
00:24:20,520 --> 00:24:21,360
Them.
That's not fair.
489
00:24:21,400 --> 00:24:22,760
I.
Want to go check my PO Box?
490
00:24:23,600 --> 00:24:25,080
Really.
I I haven't done that in about a
491
00:24:25,080 --> 00:24:27,560
couple weeks, yeah.
I think we sent you something
492
00:24:27,560 --> 00:24:28,520
didn't.
We, I've been away.
493
00:24:28,520 --> 00:24:30,040
Oh yeah, yeah, I got that a
while ago.
494
00:24:30,040 --> 00:24:31,400
That was about a month ago or
so.
495
00:24:31,440 --> 00:24:32,400
Oh, it's your.
It's your.
496
00:24:32,480 --> 00:24:34,400
Speaking of loneliness, it's
your birthday coming up.
497
00:24:34,400 --> 00:24:35,280
When you what?
What?
498
00:24:35,280 --> 00:24:38,840
Do you want for your?
Birthday May 29th.
499
00:24:38,840 --> 00:24:40,360
Anybody want to send them a gift
You got to send?
500
00:24:40,400 --> 00:24:41,240
You one?
Yeah.
501
00:24:41,240 --> 00:24:45,080
For my birthday I'm thinking
about 3 Rolexes, maybe 4/2 for
502
00:24:45,080 --> 00:24:46,880
each wrist.
So you can be like.
503
00:24:46,880 --> 00:24:48,120
Rolodex.
You can eat Rolodex.
504
00:24:48,120 --> 00:24:51,360
Watch right Flava Flav?
No, you got a Rolodex.
505
00:24:51,400 --> 00:24:54,240
And a big one from my neck too.
Just a giant I.
506
00:24:54,400 --> 00:24:58,640
Remember that one?
I had the that had Who was it?
507
00:24:58,880 --> 00:25:01,960
Mao SE tongue.
Oh, I actually, I'd like that.
508
00:25:01,960 --> 00:25:04,400
If you could find that, I would
love to go to Watchmaker, make
509
00:25:04,400 --> 00:25:05,400
that work.
That'd be sick.
510
00:25:05,640 --> 00:25:07,560
Yeah, that was cool.
That'd be really cool.
511
00:25:07,560 --> 00:25:09,880
I think I know where it is too.
It used to be my everything
512
00:25:09,880 --> 00:25:13,800
drawer that I had when I was a
kid and which I put rocks in
513
00:25:13,800 --> 00:25:16,880
from the yard.
And mom opened it one day, I
514
00:25:16,880 --> 00:25:19,240
think, when we were redesigning
my room.
515
00:25:19,240 --> 00:25:20,720
And she's like, what is this
nice, though?
516
00:25:20,720 --> 00:25:23,280
That's the everything rock
drawer, and there's about 40
517
00:25:23,280 --> 00:25:26,560
rocks in there, Yeah.
Well, I need to bring rocks in
518
00:25:26,560 --> 00:25:28,600
from the yard.
They look nice, they're good
519
00:25:28,600 --> 00:25:29,800
looking rocks.
I mean what?
520
00:25:29,800 --> 00:25:32,080
What do you mean what?
What kind of question is that?
521
00:25:32,080 --> 00:25:34,160
I.
Don't know man, you surprised
522
00:25:34,160 --> 00:25:38,480
me.
Sometimes no, but actually many
523
00:25:38,480 --> 00:25:40,920
times you do.
I kind of want another drawer
524
00:25:40,920 --> 00:25:42,360
like that.
The Rock.
525
00:25:42,360 --> 00:25:43,920
Drawer.
Instead of the sock drawer, you
526
00:25:43,920 --> 00:25:46,640
want a rock door.
Rocked or I also want an Oregon
527
00:25:46,640 --> 00:25:47,960
accumulator.
You know what that is?
528
00:25:48,400 --> 00:25:50,520
A who?
An Oregon accumulator.
529
00:25:51,240 --> 00:25:53,680
Oregon.
Oregon accumulator
530
00:25:53,680 --> 00:26:00,200
ORGUNEACCUMULA What is it?
Tor It's a box.
531
00:26:00,200 --> 00:26:03,680
It's a metal box with a chair.
Think like, think outhouse,
532
00:26:03,680 --> 00:26:06,000
right?
But it's smaller and it goes in
533
00:26:06,000 --> 00:26:09,560
your regular house and you go in
there and you think really hard
534
00:26:09,560 --> 00:26:12,120
and then you you exit, you close
the door really quickly and
535
00:26:12,120 --> 00:26:15,680
apparently it harnesses the
energy from your mind and it
536
00:26:15,680 --> 00:26:18,720
exists in a box.
William Burroughs used to use
537
00:26:18,720 --> 00:26:21,440
these in every single place that
he lived and he lived in.
538
00:26:21,440 --> 00:26:23,920
Wasn't he a heroin addict too?
He was a heroin addict for about
539
00:26:23,920 --> 00:26:26,320
50.
Years, yes and no, wait, sorry,
540
00:26:26,320 --> 00:26:29,960
39 years.
But he was a a big believer and
541
00:26:29,960 --> 00:26:32,400
it's a huge pseudoscience.
But I mean, it's a really a
542
00:26:32,400 --> 00:26:34,640
pseudoscience if it works.
I don't think so.
543
00:26:35,000 --> 00:26:37,640
I don't think it's a
pseudoscience if it works well.
544
00:26:37,680 --> 00:26:40,640
The question is, is.
When you say it works, that's
545
00:26:40,640 --> 00:26:42,720
the, I mean that's the problem
that they have with the current
546
00:26:42,720 --> 00:26:46,440
guy that's in Health and Human
Services Kennedy, where he's
547
00:26:46,440 --> 00:26:50,160
saying that the vaccine doesn't
work or this does and this does
548
00:26:50,160 --> 00:26:51,840
work.
You should take some Corykin or
549
00:26:51,840 --> 00:26:55,280
something like that.
And in reality it doesn't work.
550
00:26:55,360 --> 00:26:57,520
They have they don't have any
studies that prove that those
551
00:26:57,520 --> 00:27:02,200
things that he's saying to take
or do actually work OK and
552
00:27:02,200 --> 00:27:05,160
that's that's the that's the
problem that's really a problem
553
00:27:05,160 --> 00:27:07,320
when you give miss different
page to people, especially when
554
00:27:07,320 --> 00:27:08,800
you do it from a position of
power.
555
00:27:09,120 --> 00:27:10,840
Well, I think it's kind of
interesting there's.
556
00:27:10,840 --> 00:27:15,240
This comedian that was reviewing
the the Kennedy kind of deal
557
00:27:15,240 --> 00:27:18,280
about the the summer Easter egg
hunt for autism.
558
00:27:18,320 --> 00:27:21,440
And so the comedian was putting
it and he's like, by the end of
559
00:27:21,440 --> 00:27:24,360
the summer, we're going to
figure out what gives people
560
00:27:24,360 --> 00:27:28,320
autism, whether it's the way you
raise your children or if it's
561
00:27:28,320 --> 00:27:31,160
from vaccines.
And I think that it's funny that
562
00:27:31,160 --> 00:27:33,360
I think isn't it just a genetic
mutation?
563
00:27:33,440 --> 00:27:35,320
Like I think that that's what we
already know about it.
564
00:27:35,320 --> 00:27:37,040
And that's, well, there's, I
mean, and I think the.
565
00:27:37,080 --> 00:27:39,600
Some of the stuff they say is
just absolutely stupid.
566
00:27:39,600 --> 00:27:41,600
You know, we never know.
We never had this many kids have
567
00:27:41,600 --> 00:27:44,920
autism and we never did.
And it's like, well, but we
568
00:27:44,920 --> 00:27:49,560
didn't know what it was.
OK, Well, I think also people.
569
00:27:50,160 --> 00:27:54,600
Kids don't have polio anymore.
They used to have polio all the.
570
00:27:54,600 --> 00:27:57,080
Time and what happened?
They would die.
571
00:27:58,240 --> 00:28:00,840
And you know what happened?
Vaccinated them.
572
00:28:01,240 --> 00:28:02,440
Well, that's what happened too.
You have.
573
00:28:02,440 --> 00:28:04,560
These parents that are
vaccinated for smallpox and
574
00:28:04,560 --> 00:28:06,040
they're like, well, I'm not
going to vaccinate my kids.
575
00:28:06,040 --> 00:28:07,440
And then their kids die and then
they're sad.
576
00:28:07,880 --> 00:28:11,360
And it's like, I think that
that's, well, the the worst.
577
00:28:11,360 --> 00:28:13,080
Of the ones that say I'm not
going to get, I'm not going to
578
00:28:13,120 --> 00:28:16,160
give any new kids measles
vaccines when their kids die of
579
00:28:16,880 --> 00:28:19,240
measles and you're just like, oh
really?
580
00:28:19,240 --> 00:28:22,040
They die on that hill.
Yeah, they die on that hill.
581
00:28:22,040 --> 00:28:23,560
They die on that hill.
And that to me is like.
582
00:28:23,800 --> 00:28:27,600
If I had made a mistake and I
had believed something and it
583
00:28:27,600 --> 00:28:31,000
made you die, I would not.
Well, maybe I wouldn't.
584
00:28:31,400 --> 00:28:32,800
You can answer a question for
me.
585
00:28:32,800 --> 00:28:37,800
Is it better to be alive and
sick for a period, period of
586
00:28:37,800 --> 00:28:42,280
time or dead and not sick?
I'm gonna go with alive and sick
587
00:28:42,320 --> 00:28:45,880
on that one.
I'm gonna go alive and sick on
588
00:28:45,880 --> 00:28:47,640
that one.
I mean, I think that.
589
00:28:47,840 --> 00:28:53,400
That if I could live and be
healthy for 65 years the whole
590
00:28:53,400 --> 00:28:56,840
time or I could live and be
healthy for 50 years, but I
591
00:28:56,840 --> 00:29:01,160
would, but I would live to be
say 80 and my last 30 years
592
00:29:01,160 --> 00:29:04,760
would be sick.
I would take 65 healthy.
593
00:29:05,360 --> 00:29:07,520
You know what I mean?
I mean sick is in like.
594
00:29:07,520 --> 00:29:09,040
You get measles and you actually
survive.
595
00:29:09,040 --> 00:29:11,320
That was the point of the the
analogy.
596
00:29:11,400 --> 00:29:15,720
But yeah, no, I'd rather be
alive and sick.
597
00:29:15,800 --> 00:29:18,520
But no, I mean, not really.
But if, if we're talking
598
00:29:18,960 --> 00:29:21,760
vegetative state, no.
Well, people always people
599
00:29:21,760 --> 00:29:23,280
always.
Say that they get, oh, I get
600
00:29:23,280 --> 00:29:24,920
sick from the vaccine.
It's like, well, you know what
601
00:29:24,920 --> 00:29:26,960
it is?
It's, it's because people, it
602
00:29:26,960 --> 00:29:29,520
seems like people don't
understand what it is that it's
603
00:29:29,840 --> 00:29:31,840
absolutely.
It's a little piece of the.
604
00:29:32,080 --> 00:29:35,880
The the, the disease itself and
they're in and they're getting
605
00:29:35,880 --> 00:29:37,880
your immune system to build up
against it.
606
00:29:37,880 --> 00:29:41,520
So if you were, if you were
going to have a really, really,
607
00:29:41,520 --> 00:29:45,360
really hard time the first time,
if you get really sick from it
608
00:29:45,400 --> 00:29:49,520
when you get the vaccine, then
you were, your body was totally
609
00:29:49,520 --> 00:29:53,920
unprepared to get sick from it
'cause you would have just died.
610
00:29:54,040 --> 00:29:55,160
This kind of goes back to our
whole.
611
00:29:55,160 --> 00:29:57,200
Conversation on how America
doesn't understand what
612
00:29:57,200 --> 00:30:00,040
socialism really is as well.
And it seems like there's been
613
00:30:00,040 --> 00:30:02,680
these misdirections in MIS
education.
614
00:30:02,920 --> 00:30:06,080
But it's also on purpose though,
'cause you see the the textbooks
615
00:30:06,080 --> 00:30:09,560
that are sold in different
States and that sell better than
616
00:30:09,560 --> 00:30:11,400
the others.
But back to loneliness.
617
00:30:12,280 --> 00:30:16,000
Yeah, yeah.
Do you think the loneliness is?
618
00:30:16,240 --> 00:30:22,080
Is makes a high suicide rate.
I feel like I don't know.
619
00:30:22,080 --> 00:30:24,680
Well, you look at China and you
look at other countries like
620
00:30:24,680 --> 00:30:26,480
that.
Japan, they're overworked,
621
00:30:26,560 --> 00:30:28,280
they're overworked.
They're not lonely.
622
00:30:28,320 --> 00:30:31,160
Do you think they're overworked
more so than they're lonely, or
623
00:30:31,160 --> 00:30:32,800
do you think it's a common?
I definitely think it's a
624
00:30:32,800 --> 00:30:36,040
combination, but I don't know.
Well, Japan.
625
00:30:36,040 --> 00:30:38,000
'S yeah #1 suicide.
I think it's Japan.
626
00:30:38,240 --> 00:30:39,600
It's the overworking and then
the.
627
00:30:39,600 --> 00:30:42,080
Embarrassment with comes with
not meeting project deadlines, I
628
00:30:42,080 --> 00:30:46,160
imagine, which is which I guess
is being isolated from a main
629
00:30:46,160 --> 00:30:49,520
group, which is kind of lonely.
How you think about that?
630
00:30:50,320 --> 00:30:52,320
Yeah, when you're fighting.
Against the group, it's hard.
631
00:30:52,720 --> 00:30:54,440
I mean, you, you've done that.
I've done that.
632
00:30:54,960 --> 00:30:58,520
It's very difficult to fight
against a a large group and to
633
00:30:58,520 --> 00:31:00,600
disagree with them.
That's true.
634
00:31:00,600 --> 00:31:04,200
But you know I mean.
That's been pretty much my whole
635
00:31:04,200 --> 00:31:06,840
life.
When I think about the different
636
00:31:06,840 --> 00:31:09,120
businesses that we started and
people said, oh, no one's ever
637
00:31:09,120 --> 00:31:12,840
going to do that.
And you're like, I disagree, you
638
00:31:12,840 --> 00:31:14,720
know, Well, that's what I'm
doing now.
639
00:31:14,720 --> 00:31:16,960
It's like, I'm gonna go shoot
this project in Mongolia and
640
00:31:16,960 --> 00:31:19,080
people are like, but you've
never done a feature before.
641
00:31:19,080 --> 00:31:22,440
And I'm like, I know people who
are almost 40 that say, well,
642
00:31:22,440 --> 00:31:23,840
I'm not really ready for my
feature.
643
00:31:23,840 --> 00:31:25,120
I'm not really ready to shoot a
feature.
644
00:31:25,120 --> 00:31:27,240
You got to fuck it up now.
When are you gonna?
645
00:31:27,240 --> 00:31:28,240
When are you gonna be?
Ready.
646
00:31:28,320 --> 00:31:29,680
I mean, it's gonna be ready.
There's so.
647
00:31:29,680 --> 00:31:32,400
Many people that.
Say that that are never ready,
648
00:31:32,760 --> 00:31:35,640
you're never, never willing to
jump off the Cliff and it's like
649
00:31:35,640 --> 00:31:37,760
you'll die then and you'll never
have done it.
650
00:31:37,760 --> 00:31:40,400
And it's just 'cause every day
is a gift.
651
00:31:40,400 --> 00:31:41,920
Every day that I wake up is a
gift.
652
00:31:42,200 --> 00:31:44,840
Every day that I wake up when I
get to use my legs to walk to
653
00:31:44,840 --> 00:31:50,320
the kitchen or use my, my mind
to think of picking up my phone
654
00:31:50,320 --> 00:31:52,880
and being doom scrolling for
hours on it is a gift.
655
00:31:53,360 --> 00:31:56,120
And I think that that is
incredible.
656
00:31:56,160 --> 00:31:59,400
But at the same time, you can't
squander the gift without having
657
00:31:59,400 --> 00:32:02,840
to take some sort of risk.
And I think that that's, that's
658
00:32:02,840 --> 00:32:05,600
the biggest truth.
That's the biggest truth, yeah.
659
00:32:05,600 --> 00:32:08,160
The risk, the gift.
Is earned well, that's what I
660
00:32:08,160 --> 00:32:10,520
want.
I mean when I there there's
661
00:32:10,520 --> 00:32:17,080
nothing you can do to make me
more proud than to live your 20s
662
00:32:17,640 --> 00:32:21,920
Find out what truly find out
what true direction makes you
663
00:32:21,920 --> 00:32:24,800
happy.
You know I mean it would be cool
664
00:32:24,920 --> 00:32:27,280
if you went and got your four
year business degree got out
665
00:32:27,280 --> 00:32:29,560
became an accountant or a lawyer
and did the whole thing like
666
00:32:29,560 --> 00:32:32,000
that and you had this structured
thing going up and everybody
667
00:32:32,000 --> 00:32:35,360
would be they could measure you
against society and things like
668
00:32:35,360 --> 00:32:37,240
that.
But I think the fact that you're
669
00:32:37,240 --> 00:32:41,240
doing something that to me is
harder than anything I ever did,
670
00:32:42,080 --> 00:32:45,480
but that that's what it's just
like, wow, that that I can't
671
00:32:45,480 --> 00:32:48,640
imagine, you know, when you
started out and you're going
672
00:32:48,640 --> 00:32:50,960
after acting and then and then
you're now you're doing
673
00:32:51,480 --> 00:32:53,400
producing and you're like, no,
I'm going to, I want to be AI
674
00:32:53,400 --> 00:32:55,400
want to, I want to be a
executive producer.
675
00:32:55,400 --> 00:32:57,520
I'm going to do this.
I'm going to well, it's because
676
00:32:57,520 --> 00:32:58,440
I'm going to do this.
I'm going.
677
00:32:58,440 --> 00:33:00,320
To do this.
You know, and I'm like, Oh my
678
00:33:00,320 --> 00:33:04,880
God, this is just.
And to see it happen, it's just
679
00:33:04,880 --> 00:33:06,760
from beginning to end, soup to
nuts.
680
00:33:06,760 --> 00:33:09,080
It's just like, that's wild.
As soon as I did that last
681
00:33:09,080 --> 00:33:10,320
project.
I'm like, why am I not doing
682
00:33:10,320 --> 00:33:12,320
this under my own company?
I should just do it under my own
683
00:33:12,320 --> 00:33:15,000
company.
Yeah, 'cause that's what a bunch
684
00:33:15,000 --> 00:33:17,160
of famous production houses have
done.
685
00:33:17,800 --> 00:33:20,880
Is it just whether they realize
that they're amiable and that
686
00:33:20,880 --> 00:33:24,600
they're good at one finding
funny, but they're also good at
687
00:33:24,600 --> 00:33:27,280
reading a script or putting
together a team?
688
00:33:28,000 --> 00:33:29,680
And I think that that's what I
realized that I'm good at.
689
00:33:29,680 --> 00:33:33,760
And then more so, I also like
the, I think the acting classes
690
00:33:33,760 --> 00:33:36,200
I was taking.
I was shaking before every
691
00:33:36,200 --> 00:33:38,120
single scene.
I'm like, I don't like doing
692
00:33:38,120 --> 00:33:40,120
this.
I don't like doing this.
693
00:33:40,120 --> 00:33:43,200
I like creating the art and
doing the team and then even
694
00:33:43,200 --> 00:33:45,760
standing behind the camera and
associating myself with the
695
00:33:45,760 --> 00:33:47,160
different shots that we're
taking.
696
00:33:47,160 --> 00:33:49,760
We're coming up with an idea of
shooting a full length project
697
00:33:49,760 --> 00:33:51,680
in that's foreign country and
establishing those
698
00:33:51,680 --> 00:33:54,360
relationships.
I love that, but I don't like
699
00:33:54,720 --> 00:33:56,920
being an actor.
I don't enjoy it except for the
700
00:33:56,920 --> 00:33:58,520
time in college.
For some reason, it was
701
00:33:58,520 --> 00:34:00,160
different than I think that it
was.
702
00:34:00,800 --> 00:34:03,640
If I had more access to stage
work, I think that I would be
703
00:34:03,760 --> 00:34:06,880
more apartment.
But camera work is just nothing
704
00:34:06,880 --> 00:34:10,840
short of the 9th circle of hell.
I think I would.
705
00:34:10,840 --> 00:34:13,760
I would say yeah, Yeah.
Oh.
706
00:34:13,760 --> 00:34:17,000
Wow, but you don't think you're
lonely?
707
00:34:18,920 --> 00:34:23,159
Not really.
Ever since I I'm pretty well
708
00:34:23,159 --> 00:34:26,199
surrounded with people and and
that's another.
709
00:34:26,199 --> 00:34:29,679
Thing that I've done is that
I've I've been conscientious and
710
00:34:29,679 --> 00:34:33,840
reaching out to people from my
past and making sure that I see
711
00:34:33,840 --> 00:34:36,199
them periodically.
That's what I just did for the
712
00:34:36,239 --> 00:34:37,560
one.
Way or the other if I don't do.
713
00:34:37,560 --> 00:34:39,840
That I won't ever.
We'll never be friends.
714
00:34:39,840 --> 00:34:41,280
We'll just drift away.
We'll drift apart.
715
00:34:41,560 --> 00:34:43,600
I, I, I started, I set time
frames.
716
00:34:43,600 --> 00:34:45,719
Like when I meet my college
buddy.
717
00:34:45,719 --> 00:34:47,920
I meet him every three months
for we do.
718
00:34:47,920 --> 00:34:52,080
We do lunch at his house or my
and I said, I don't care if you
719
00:34:52,080 --> 00:34:53,800
come or don't come.
I'll drive there every time.
720
00:34:53,800 --> 00:34:56,800
I care less because I'm going to
you matter, you know, and I have
721
00:34:56,800 --> 00:35:00,200
like the shaws.
They matter and Conrad matters
722
00:35:00,200 --> 00:35:04,120
and Jim matters and Jose matters
and there's all these people in
723
00:35:04,120 --> 00:35:09,560
my life that matter.
And so I make an effort to to
724
00:35:09,560 --> 00:35:11,520
reach out to them because I
think that's important.
725
00:35:11,520 --> 00:35:16,240
Isn't it funny how?
You can know somebody for 50 and
726
00:35:16,240 --> 00:35:19,480
you know, let's say if we're
infinite beings and you've known
727
00:35:19,480 --> 00:35:24,960
somebody for as long as you can
remember and when it comes down
728
00:35:24,960 --> 00:35:28,760
to driving, that's when human
beings start to split airs.
729
00:35:29,160 --> 00:35:31,120
I think that that's really
that's really interesting
730
00:35:32,200 --> 00:35:33,480
travel.
It's coming in your.
731
00:35:33,480 --> 00:35:36,520
Direction.
But then I remember, I mean, we
732
00:35:36,520 --> 00:35:39,320
had relatives that lived in
Southwest Virginia and they
733
00:35:39,320 --> 00:35:41,520
would come up and we lived in
Woodbridge.
734
00:35:42,040 --> 00:35:46,880
They would go to the Potomac
Mills Mall, up the Potomac Mills
735
00:35:46,880 --> 00:35:49,360
Mall, which was 5 miles from her
house.
736
00:35:50,000 --> 00:35:51,520
And they would stay at a hotel
there.
737
00:35:51,600 --> 00:35:53,840
And they would not tell us they
were in town.
738
00:35:55,600 --> 00:35:56,920
I mean, we, we would come over
like you.
739
00:35:56,920 --> 00:35:58,160
I don't think they like, I
don't.
740
00:35:58,160 --> 00:35:59,600
Know, I think everybody kind of.
Hated us.
741
00:35:59,640 --> 00:36:01,360
I think they, they, I don't
think they liked you.
742
00:36:01,600 --> 00:36:03,120
That's why, yeah, they.
Don't I?
743
00:36:03,120 --> 00:36:04,560
They didn't like my.
Mother, they didn't like my
744
00:36:04,560 --> 00:36:05,760
father.
They didn't like anybody.
745
00:36:05,760 --> 00:36:12,400
And so it sort of seemed, you
know, I think that was it.
746
00:36:13,120 --> 00:36:15,800
Yeah, probably so.
And I don't know if it.
747
00:36:15,800 --> 00:36:17,800
Was deserved or?
Not, you know, you can't.
748
00:36:17,840 --> 00:36:19,840
You can't 'cause you weren't
there at the time.
749
00:36:19,960 --> 00:36:22,720
Well, I know I've met a lot of.
People in my life that I off the
750
00:36:22,720 --> 00:36:24,760
first RIP, I don't like and I'm
like, why would I try this
751
00:36:24,760 --> 00:36:25,960
again?
That's kind of like that.
752
00:36:26,280 --> 00:36:28,560
But then I do, and there are
some people that I've These were
753
00:36:28,560 --> 00:36:30,000
relatives, though these were
not.
754
00:36:30,320 --> 00:36:31,360
These were.
Relatives.
755
00:36:31,480 --> 00:36:34,520
I think that that's a very.
Abject thing as well I think
756
00:36:34,520 --> 00:36:39,720
that the idea that these are
like brothers of my mother OK I
757
00:36:39,720 --> 00:36:41,840
mean if you had a brother that.
Would be like that, would be
758
00:36:41,840 --> 00:36:46,680
like Edwin coming here and
coming to McLean and eating at
759
00:36:46,680 --> 00:36:48,520
the third.
Cousins or something eating this
760
00:36:48,560 --> 00:36:51,960
eating at the Silver diner.
And not telling me, oh, I went
761
00:36:51,960 --> 00:36:55,720
up to Tyson's, I was shopping
there and I and I and oh, you
762
00:36:55,720 --> 00:36:59,680
were here for five days and you
and you didn't call.
763
00:36:59,840 --> 00:37:01,480
That's crazy.
I would be like.
764
00:37:01,960 --> 00:37:04,000
I I would be.
You're kidding me, for some
765
00:37:04,000 --> 00:37:06,400
reason I read this more.
As extended family and not
766
00:37:06,400 --> 00:37:08,520
necessarily oh extended family
like uncles.
767
00:37:08,520 --> 00:37:11,320
Of cousins if it was like a. 3rd
I was reading this as third
768
00:37:11,320 --> 00:37:12,760
cousin I wouldn't care but this
was.
769
00:37:12,840 --> 00:37:16,240
No, these people were, you know,
direct relatives and you were
770
00:37:16,240 --> 00:37:18,600
just like, that's that's fucked
off.
771
00:37:18,800 --> 00:37:20,520
Yeah, no, that never mind.
I take that.
772
00:37:20,520 --> 00:37:21,640
Yeah, they were.
They were.
773
00:37:21,880 --> 00:37:24,200
That's a little crazy, I mean.
You know, preachy.
774
00:37:24,200 --> 00:37:27,360
And all this kind of stuff like
that, but just abject assholes,
775
00:37:27,360 --> 00:37:29,360
I would say.
Yeah, no, that's.
776
00:37:29,480 --> 00:37:32,440
That's pretty terrible.
That's Yeah, that's so.
777
00:37:32,760 --> 00:37:35,880
That's awful.
Yeah, that's what I.
778
00:37:35,880 --> 00:37:37,440
Thought that's not great.
That's bad.
779
00:37:37,440 --> 00:37:40,960
That's what I thought.
You know, oh wait, what's the?
780
00:37:40,960 --> 00:37:44,280
Runtime here.
Oh, we're at about. 40 minutes.
781
00:37:44,480 --> 00:37:45,520
40 minutes.
OK.
782
00:37:46,040 --> 00:37:49,360
What are you getting old?
You can't talk.
783
00:37:49,400 --> 00:37:51,000
As long as you used to.
Can you?
784
00:37:51,000 --> 00:37:53,200
Well, the muscle is an.
Exercise right now.
785
00:37:53,400 --> 00:37:56,640
And I'm also still jet lagged
AF.
786
00:37:57,840 --> 00:37:58,840
Yeah.
Got back yesterday.
787
00:37:58,840 --> 00:37:59,800
Oh, yeah.
Well, you know, we could fill
788
00:37:59,800 --> 00:38:02,360
the last 10 minutes with that.
Where'd you go?
789
00:38:02,720 --> 00:38:06,520
I went to Mongolia and then
Mongolia research.
790
00:38:06,520 --> 00:38:11,360
I actually messaged somebody and
they said here's my cultural
791
00:38:11,360 --> 00:38:14,840
correspondent.
And then I met with a cultural
792
00:38:14,840 --> 00:38:17,600
correspondent.
She drove us with another man
793
00:38:17,600 --> 00:38:21,760
who was a local celebrity, not
local, I mean local celebrities
794
00:38:21,760 --> 00:38:23,880
in the entire country.
Like he would walk into people's
795
00:38:23,880 --> 00:38:25,840
houses and they would be like,
oh, you're that guy from that
796
00:38:25,840 --> 00:38:27,400
movie.
It was crazy.
797
00:38:27,440 --> 00:38:33,360
And then we did like probably 9
interviews on our protagonist.
798
00:38:33,360 --> 00:38:36,680
So we're doing we're.
So the research phase of the the
799
00:38:36,680 --> 00:38:39,920
project is done with the project
is a feature link documentary
800
00:38:40,640 --> 00:38:42,640
and it's going to be broken up
into three different people's
801
00:38:42,640 --> 00:38:46,080
lives.
And it's about a lot of things.
802
00:38:46,160 --> 00:38:49,880
It's about the effect that
mining has had on Mongolia for
803
00:38:49,880 --> 00:38:54,600
the past, since Soviets laughed
really, and how you've had these
804
00:38:54,600 --> 00:38:59,160
foreign entities come in and rob
the land of its nutrients.
805
00:38:59,160 --> 00:39:03,760
And it's about memory of what
was before this happened.
806
00:39:03,760 --> 00:39:08,000
And it's also about what
Mongolia has always based on and
807
00:39:08,000 --> 00:39:11,000
how Mongolia has taken over the
world twice with the strength of
808
00:39:11,000 --> 00:39:15,760
its horses, and now its horses
are also implied of the stoicism
809
00:39:15,760 --> 00:39:18,760
that is in the people there.
And I think that that's really
810
00:39:18,760 --> 00:39:21,120
what it's about.
Wow, That's exactly what it's
811
00:39:21,120 --> 00:39:23,920
about.
And no, there it was.
812
00:39:23,920 --> 00:39:27,600
The hospitality was nothing
short of probably the best thing
813
00:39:27,600 --> 00:39:30,480
I've ever seen in my life.
Hands down the most hospitable
814
00:39:30,480 --> 00:39:32,560
people.
This guy's walking in people's
815
00:39:32,560 --> 00:39:34,960
houses, and I was like, he knows
these people, right?
816
00:39:34,960 --> 00:39:36,680
She's like, no, he's never met
him in his life.
817
00:39:36,920 --> 00:39:40,120
And it was just nothing short.
They didn't shoot him.
818
00:39:40,120 --> 00:39:41,240
It was a gift.
Exactly.
819
00:39:41,240 --> 00:39:43,080
That's what we were saying, was
like, you walk in somebody's
820
00:39:43,080 --> 00:39:44,040
house and, you know, it's your
dad.
821
00:39:44,840 --> 00:39:46,440
She was like, really?
That's all I want.
822
00:39:46,440 --> 00:39:48,360
I'm like, yeah, yeah, they're
stupid.
823
00:39:48,760 --> 00:39:51,200
Yeah.
Because your immediate thing is.
824
00:39:51,200 --> 00:39:53,400
To think bad?
No, exactly, we think.
825
00:39:53,400 --> 00:39:55,440
Evil.
Well, Canadians even leave their
826
00:39:55,440 --> 00:39:58,680
houses open all the time.
They just leave their front door
827
00:39:58,680 --> 00:40:00,000
unlocked.
And this one guy was like, well,
828
00:40:00,000 --> 00:40:01,240
the worst thing that ever
happened was these.
829
00:40:01,560 --> 00:40:04,440
Teenagers came and took like 1/5
of my liquor or something.
830
00:40:04,440 --> 00:40:08,040
Left and he's like, oh, OK,
yeah, that's not that bad.
831
00:40:08,920 --> 00:40:10,440
Not that bad.
But yeah.
832
00:40:10,520 --> 00:40:14,000
Then I went to Korea after and I
saw Thomas Clark, who I've known
833
00:40:14,080 --> 00:40:17,960
for 15 years and.
Yeah, fifth grade.
834
00:40:17,960 --> 00:40:18,840
What are you?
How old are you?
835
00:40:18,840 --> 00:40:21,920
In fifth grade, Like 10?
Yeah, about 15 years.
836
00:40:21,920 --> 00:40:26,360
Yeah.
So I saw him and then I saw my
837
00:40:26,360 --> 00:40:28,720
friend's friend who's he's since
middle school.
838
00:40:28,720 --> 00:40:31,960
So probably more like what is
that in like 10 years?
839
00:40:32,240 --> 00:40:35,080
And then Thomas is doing well.
He moved to Korea.
840
00:40:35,400 --> 00:40:40,120
Is it the Tank Engine or no?
That was that was a that was a
841
00:40:40,120 --> 00:40:42,760
low joke.
Try to make him funny next time
842
00:40:46,080 --> 00:40:47,800
you like that.
I was you trying to be a
843
00:40:47,800 --> 00:40:49,480
comedian.
That was that was pretty
844
00:40:49,800 --> 00:40:52,000
flippant.
Yep, it was.
845
00:40:52,160 --> 00:40:57,520
And then, and then it came back.
Yeah, it was 13 days, but then
846
00:40:57,520 --> 00:40:59,520
we're going to go back in August
and then we're going to shoot
847
00:40:59,520 --> 00:41:00,600
the whole bunch.
Yeah, you're just, you're
848
00:41:00,600 --> 00:41:04,280
tanking my.
Trip, I blame you the the trip
849
00:41:04,280 --> 00:41:05,880
you planned.
Today I'm going to, Yeah, I
850
00:41:05,960 --> 00:41:07,040
know.
I'm going to call them and I'm
851
00:41:07,040 --> 00:41:08,480
going to.
Tell them that we have.
852
00:41:08,600 --> 00:41:10,680
Well, maybe we can go later, but
I have no idea.
853
00:41:10,680 --> 00:41:14,400
I think August is like the month
for doing that because it's so
854
00:41:14,400 --> 00:41:17,600
cold otherwise.
You know they, but they.
855
00:41:17,600 --> 00:41:20,480
Have a whole bunch of trips in
June, July and August.
856
00:41:20,480 --> 00:41:22,840
Those are the big ones.
So we'll probably go in 2026.
857
00:41:22,840 --> 00:41:25,760
That's what I'm thinking.
OK, you know, I, I'm just
858
00:41:25,760 --> 00:41:28,720
thinking I'll do that cause and
I really want to do, but it's 14
859
00:41:28,720 --> 00:41:30,840
days and I was like, that's a
long time.
860
00:41:30,880 --> 00:41:33,360
That's a long time.
I mean that that's the, that's
861
00:41:33,360 --> 00:41:35,080
the.
Kicker I I was like, that's 14
862
00:41:35,080 --> 00:41:35,920
days.
That's painful.
863
00:41:35,920 --> 00:41:40,440
We certainly won't be lonely.
Watch it 13 and I'd say 11.
864
00:41:40,440 --> 00:41:42,960
Day 11.
I was like, OK, we're in Korea
865
00:41:43,600 --> 00:41:46,440
because we kind of, it kind of
added like a company retreat
866
00:41:46,440 --> 00:41:48,880
aspect to it because we were
doing research for 9 days
867
00:41:48,880 --> 00:41:52,960
straight every every single day,
24 hours a day we were on except
868
00:41:52,960 --> 00:41:54,160
for the 8 hours we were
sleeping.
869
00:41:54,160 --> 00:42:00,240
So I guess not the full 24.
But yeah, that was really rough.
870
00:42:00,440 --> 00:42:04,840
It was really rough.
And but we overcame and then we
871
00:42:05,240 --> 00:42:08,280
made, did some of the best
research, no, the best research
872
00:42:08,280 --> 00:42:12,160
I've ever done in my life.
So incredibly rewarding
873
00:42:12,160 --> 00:42:14,880
experience.
And then I was like, we, we
874
00:42:14,880 --> 00:42:17,040
need, we need some sort of
relaxation.
875
00:42:17,120 --> 00:42:19,520
So I went to Korea and it was
great.
876
00:42:19,880 --> 00:42:23,240
And I relaxed and I saw some
people and I learned about Korea
877
00:42:24,440 --> 00:42:28,000
and now I'm back.
It's funny, I'm waking up here.
878
00:42:28,000 --> 00:42:31,520
I'm like, where am I?
Because I woke up and I was
879
00:42:31,520 --> 00:42:33,080
like, I asked my girlfriend
like, where are we?
880
00:42:33,920 --> 00:42:36,440
And then she's like, we're.
In my apartment, I was like your
881
00:42:36,440 --> 00:42:41,040
apartment where because I've
been in like, Oh my God, because
882
00:42:41,040 --> 00:42:43,960
it a hotel.
It's like I I never stayed in a
883
00:42:43,960 --> 00:42:48,360
place in one day more than like
or one place more than a day.
884
00:42:48,360 --> 00:42:51,720
And it's just been yeah, go, go,
go.
885
00:42:51,960 --> 00:42:53,040
Yeah, it's been.
Go, go, go.
886
00:42:53,280 --> 00:42:56,720
We've had trips like that.
Yeah, it's hard when you when
887
00:42:56,720 --> 00:42:59,480
you travel every two days then
that's why the wife and I won't.
888
00:43:00,320 --> 00:43:03,960
Yeah, we go places.
We, we, we have to stay two to
889
00:43:03,960 --> 00:43:07,120
three nights in every hotel
'cause it's like if 33's
890
00:43:07,120 --> 00:43:11,400
optimal, but 'cause then you get
a chance to land and take, take
891
00:43:11,400 --> 00:43:12,960
your underwear out of the
suitcase.
892
00:43:12,960 --> 00:43:16,520
Otherwise it's and you can't.
And we, we generally don't stay
893
00:43:16,520 --> 00:43:19,920
longer than 10 days anywhere.
Yeah, I'm glad.
894
00:43:19,920 --> 00:43:22,320
We even Sicily was long.
I was like, yeah.
895
00:43:22,320 --> 00:43:23,600
And that was 10 days.
And it's like.
896
00:43:23,600 --> 00:43:27,040
OK, that's that's, that's plenty
well, I think in hindsight.
897
00:43:27,240 --> 00:43:29,520
Well, there's two different
generations of thought here.
898
00:43:29,880 --> 00:43:34,840
With your generation, it's like,
oh, having a plan and like going
899
00:43:34,840 --> 00:43:38,280
somewhere with a plan I go, no,
I really don't have a plan
900
00:43:38,280 --> 00:43:40,200
anywhere I go except if like
this kind.
901
00:43:40,200 --> 00:43:41,760
I kind of did actually.
That's not true.
902
00:43:42,120 --> 00:43:44,800
I had a whole guide.
Yeah, but she messaged me one
903
00:43:44,800 --> 00:43:48,800
day before we left and so but I
already had like 6 or 7 meetings
904
00:43:48,800 --> 00:43:50,760
set up there anyway.
Right, right.
905
00:43:50,760 --> 00:43:52,920
So like we went to the, she did
a lot of stuff planned.
906
00:43:53,400 --> 00:43:56,680
She knocked it.
Out of the park, like the
907
00:43:56,720 --> 00:44:01,920
translator and the driver were
nothing short of a miracle.
908
00:44:01,920 --> 00:44:03,160
Didn't you say they're going to
be dead soon?
909
00:44:03,160 --> 00:44:03,920
Because.
They're so old.
910
00:44:04,360 --> 00:44:07,480
No, Well, he's like. 60
something and then she's like
911
00:44:07,480 --> 00:44:10,000
third forty.
Oh, she's not going to be dead.
912
00:44:10,000 --> 00:44:11,800
Anytime soon?
What's his name?
913
00:44:11,800 --> 00:44:15,480
Big Daddy.
Big man, big.
914
00:44:15,480 --> 00:44:19,120
Man, OK, that's funny.
Yeah, he's celebrity.
915
00:44:19,240 --> 00:44:20,880
I should.
I'll link their SO.
916
00:44:20,880 --> 00:44:22,880
That guy is a celebrity.
The one the pictures he's a
917
00:44:22,880 --> 00:44:24,120
celebrity.
Be well, he'll just.
918
00:44:24,120 --> 00:44:26,040
Go out and we were talking to
nomads.
919
00:44:26,040 --> 00:44:29,080
We stayed with one and then we
stayed in a mining camp and he
920
00:44:29,080 --> 00:44:32,040
they'll just be like, we know
who you are 'cause there.
921
00:44:32,040 --> 00:44:35,080
He live streamed a portion of
the documentary on Facebook
922
00:44:35,080 --> 00:44:36,840
Live.
Cause what it's about, I'll just
923
00:44:36,840 --> 00:44:39,440
explain what it's about.
It's about these horses, they
924
00:44:39,440 --> 00:44:41,320
run back to their birthplace
'cause they remember where
925
00:44:41,320 --> 00:44:45,360
they're born.
And so they run like salmon 3000
926
00:44:45,360 --> 00:44:48,400
kilometers.
And then there's a story about
927
00:44:48,640 --> 00:44:52,000
this horse that went to Vietnam,
is a Mongolian horse,
928
00:44:52,000 --> 00:44:56,560
specifically a Mongolian horse,
and ran back from Vietnam all
929
00:44:56,560 --> 00:44:58,560
the way to Mongolia to where he
was born.
930
00:44:58,560 --> 00:45:02,240
And it was a true story.
And he's been basically
931
00:45:02,240 --> 00:45:05,160
recreating these stories.
And it's, it's turning out to be
932
00:45:05,160 --> 00:45:08,840
true that these horses remember
where they're born, which is
933
00:45:08,840 --> 00:45:14,240
crazy.
And so, yeah, it's, it's
934
00:45:14,240 --> 00:45:16,680
amazing.
It's it's really amazing stuff.
935
00:45:16,680 --> 00:45:19,360
Yeah.
No, it makes you think about.
936
00:45:19,400 --> 00:45:21,400
It makes you think of.
Yeah, well, salmon do that
937
00:45:21,400 --> 00:45:23,320
though.
Well, you know a human.
938
00:45:23,320 --> 00:45:26,520
Goes down the woods, they get
lost, and then they
939
00:45:26,520 --> 00:45:29,240
statistically walk around in
circles.
940
00:45:29,680 --> 00:45:30,280
Yeah.
And then?
941
00:45:30,640 --> 00:45:35,480
We and then we die 'cause we're
stupid, yeah, you know, yeah,
942
00:45:35,640 --> 00:45:37,920
that's what they.
Do yeah, Salmon.
943
00:45:37,920 --> 00:45:40,160
Do do that, yeah, they the.
Same with a lot of fish,
944
00:45:40,160 --> 00:45:42,520
actually.
Birds, I don't know, sense of
945
00:45:42,520 --> 00:45:44,600
direction.
It's really well, that's how the
946
00:45:44,600 --> 00:45:48,040
Bears get.
Fed Oh yeah, because they're.
947
00:45:48,040 --> 00:45:51,320
Swimming upstream, yeah, I mean,
bears living the same. 5 miles
948
00:45:51,320 --> 00:45:56,640
for their whole life, you know,
in the area, but a it is what it
949
00:45:56,640 --> 00:46:00,360
is more like 30 miles. 40 miles.
Or it might be, but then again.
950
00:46:00,360 --> 00:46:02,080
It can't be if that's what it
is.
951
00:46:02,720 --> 00:46:05,880
Well, mant if it's.
If it can't, 'cause then it
952
00:46:05,880 --> 00:46:08,640
chant, right?
Well, that's what it is.
953
00:46:09,280 --> 00:46:11,640
That's what they say it is, but
I don't know.
954
00:46:11,640 --> 00:46:14,400
I mean, I they, they think that
that's that.
955
00:46:14,400 --> 00:46:17,480
But is it really that if it's
kind of close to it?
956
00:46:17,480 --> 00:46:19,160
I don't know.
I think we're coming to the end
957
00:46:19,160 --> 00:46:20,160
here.
I think we are.
958
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So thank you.
Guys for listening as always
959
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recordmyfather.com find us on
all social media platforms and
960
00:46:26,160 --> 00:46:28,520
we'll catch you next week with
another episode.
961
00:46:28,520 --> 00:46:32,160
Maybe I kind of like this which
riffin it's just great.
962
00:46:32,240 --> 00:46:33,960
I'll show you and we got a
little bit as.
963
00:46:34,160 --> 00:46:36,280
We go.
We'll show you.
964
00:46:36,520 --> 00:46:38,360
Our Social Security numbers next
week.
965
00:46:38,720 --> 00:46:41,000
Stay tuned for that.
All right, bye bye, everybody.
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Bye bye.
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Hey guys, welcome back to
another episode of record My
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father.
Today we're going to be talking
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about loneliness.
I, I think I came up with a, an
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idea recently on my trip about
being an only child and when you
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lose your parents and how you're
lonely in the world.
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And I thought that this was an
interesting concept.
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Well, is that a loneliness or
that's alone?
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You're alone.
You'll be by yourself.
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But the theory is that that you
know you.
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That's why you make connections,
right?
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Yeah, yeah.
But I've been 20, above the age
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of about 40 that I know has
three friends.
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So I don't know, really
interesting.
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It's an interesting concept.
Yeah.
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Well, then people, I don't know
if that's really true, because
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then you have people, large
networks of people at least
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don't see people as much because
I think people get comfortable
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in the house.
They do, yes, that's something.
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Yes, I would say that as we get
older, we're our, our, our
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families become our primary, our
immediate family becomes the
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primary thing.
Like my brothers and sisters, I
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see quite frequently, you know,
or, and I talked to and so does
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my so does my wife.
We see her family quite
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frequently.
And when you think about it,
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though, it's like, you know,
you, I mean her, her mother,
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it's 8284 and she sees her every
week because she's at a point
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where, you know, as you get
older, you start to, you tend to
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realize that there's a limited
amount of time.
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You know, when you're, when
you're younger like you is like
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you, you don't even see that you
have 4050, sixty years.
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You know, you're 26 years old.
I'm 65.
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I'm what, almost 40 years older
than you.
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So I realized that I got people
dropping dead around me.
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Well, you know, what I'll ask
you is, you know, like when
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you're like 5 or 6 and a day
feels like forever because it's
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in comparison to your whole
life, Right.
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And how?
Yeah.
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And how the amount of time?
Every day gets shorter as you
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get older.
When did you really start
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noticing that the days were
shorter?
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Probably I started setting, you
know, I don't know.
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I, I can't, I have to.
I, I just thought that I didn't,
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I didn't notice it.
Now I notice that they may be
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shorter, but they're not filled
with this much.
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I mean, I used to have, my days
were filled with tons and tons
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of things.
And when I, and when I worked,
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they were done with work and
people and food and this and
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that and that.
And now it's just like I eat
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less, I weigh more, I do less.
I'm physically, you know, what
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do you call it?
Feeble.
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Well, yeah, you're just walking
outside and you're breaking your
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ankle these days.
Yeah, I know.
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I just.
Did it again.
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Do you think you broke your
ankle?
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I I fell down on the on the
shed.
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I slipped on that thing.
I told her that and that messed
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up.
That re injured my shoulder and.
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They just got surgery on.
Right.
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And then I had, what was it to
I, you know, I, I, I walked too
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far and I reenter my Achilles
because I have a torn Achilles
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tendon and it takes supposed to
be 6 months and it's, you know,
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and, and every couple weeks I
just think it's feels good and I
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go for a long walk.
And then I realized that I
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messed up.
Well, that was the thing that I
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was dealing with when I was 15.
I broke my ankle and then I I
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went back to skating, I think a
month early.
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Yeah.
I don't really regret it.
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I think I'm good.
I don't know.
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It doesn't.
It didn't, it didn't bother you
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'cause you're younger.
What was on the growth plate as
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well?
It wasn't like I shattered it.
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I didn't shatter the the ball
and socket joint.
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I just shattered or I just.
That's what I did.
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Like the yeah, that's bad.
Yeah, the growth plate is really
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bad or really good.
Really good.
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Not that, but yeah, being alone
versus loneliness, I would say
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being alone.
I you can enjoy being alone.
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I remember the pandemic.
I didn't really bother well.
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You and mom are, by the way.
You're more introverted.
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Whereas me, I if I'm alone, I'll
just die.
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Yeah, I will just wilt and die.
I needed to.
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I need to recharge though.
What have you recharged?
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You never recharged.
Me.
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Yeah.
How was that?
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Typically I sleep.
Well, without, what can you do
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it?
Like, can you recharge?
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Like say we're on vacation,
right?
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With 20 people, could you be
around them all the time, every
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day?
No, no.
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Usually by day six or seven.
I usually plan this in all my
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travels.
If I'm going with a couple of
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friends, we always have this get
the hell away from me day.
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It's the only way to to because
for some reason, when you're
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with someone that you're not
married to or not really, you
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know, you, you get tired of them
for whatever reason, you they're
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you're not with them all the
time and they might have a
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nuance.
They might, they might butter
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their bread different than you
do and you just, it just fucking
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annoys you for no reason And,
and it's just and you need just
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a break to not do stupid things.
Well, there's some time you.
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Know I found that for me that
that makes it really, really,
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really enjoyable.
It's like, ah, we're going to go
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we're going to go hiking today.
You do your thing and we would
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do just do different things when
we travel with couples and stuff
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and it's it's just wonderful.
I'm I'm lucky traveling with
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your mom.
We we get along really well.
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I mean, for the most part, she's
not always wrong, but when she
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is, you know, I feel the brunt
of it.
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You know what it is too for me
is vocal.
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She doesn't.
Listen to these so I can say
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anything I want.
Vocal intonation after a certain
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amount of days together, just
kind of like the person's voice
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pisses you off.
I don't know why is that?
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After a certain amount of time
with somebody, you're like, man,
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just the way you talk bothers
me.
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I really would want to know what
the the the medical kind of sign
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is for that.
I know it's just being around
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them too much, but it's why in
the beginning was I not bothered
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by the way that they spoke, but
now I am and the.
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Opposite of loneliness.
Well, they always say that when
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you marry someone, those cute
little habits will turn into
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annoying pains in the asses
things.
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The honeymoon.
I like the.
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Yeah, I like the way you crinkle
your nose.
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Why aren't you always putting
your nose like a prune, lady?
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You know, I like the way that
you do this.
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Why you do that all the time?
Well, because you said you don't
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like that.
I don't know.
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I don't like it that much.
Well, that's the four month
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period, yeah.
They say it's like, you know,
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you're in love with somebody
after four months.
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Really.
I think that that's what it was.
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Yeah, 'cause I don't think it
was about.
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That yeah, I kind of felt like I
was in Lubbock probably.
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It was pretty quick.
Were you?
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Proposed after six months What?
Was it something, well, like
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that?
Yeah.
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Yeah, that's that's pretty.
But you were like sure, how old
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were?
You 3030 thirty.
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That's right, 2930.
Right there.
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OK.
So I met her and we were inside
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of five months.
We lived together, you know.
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I think at that age too, I don't
know, 'cause I think we're.
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Ready.
We're both really ready for a
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stable relationship where the
person wasn't I.
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I have never been a person who
wanted someone that was going to
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be with me, that was needy.
And that was, I mean, I'm
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somewhat clingy myself, but I
don't, I don't, I, I don't want
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to think for a woman.
I don't want to make decisions
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for a woman.
I want a woman to make decisions
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for herself.
And and I want to be in a
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relationship with someone where,
well, you know, the man is the
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head of that.
No, I don't fuck that, that I, I
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don't, I don't get that.
No, I shouldn't.
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I shouldn't be critical.
I should say that works for some
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people, but it doesn't work for
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Well, that's not.
Completely true, because when
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you she had me she she no longer
worked and I think that that.
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Well, she didn't want well.
She's part of that kind of thing
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that you're talking about.
Oh, where I'm the leader.
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You're the breadwinner.
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Oh yeah.
Breadwinner, yeah, but I didn't.
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I didn't care about being the
breadwinner.
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That wasn't something that
seemed to be.
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I was always in any
relationship.
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So it was an option.
It wasn't necessarily like
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you're going no, OK.
She when she had the kid, she
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could have gone back to work if
she wanted to.
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But, you know, and it was like,
and we were making at that
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point, I was probably pulling in
about 500 KA year.
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So there really wasn't any need
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And we're living in a house that
we could have, we could have
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bought three of them every year,
you know, we weren't living in
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an expensive place, you know.
And so we moved here, you know.
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Yeah, we, I mean, we, we had
moved here and this house was
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probably about one year's
salary, which is really, really,
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really cheap, you know, when you
think about it.
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And I never bought another.
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like what, five times that, six
times that, something like that.
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But I mean, for me, I, I never
once we got to a point where we
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didn't.
She, I, I was more, you were her
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project.
You were more, she took care of
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you.
She she takes care of you and
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that makes me happy.
She makes the doctor's
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appointment.
She does all the stuff she did,
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all your IEP and your whatever,
the IUD shit and all that weird
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stuff.
You got IUD.
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I do actually have three they
they keep forgetting to take
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them out.
That's becoming a problem.
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Yeah, you got to get those.
But but that, that was something
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you know well, you're an only
child, but you, you, you didn't
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seem to be lonely.
No, because you find your own
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fun.
That's what you do, right?
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You make your own fun.
And I don't know, it's kind of
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interesting to looking at other
people that have brothers and
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sisters.
And I remember early on I was
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like, man, that'd be great.
And now that I'm older, I think
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the world out there that I
didn't have a brother or sister
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because having that the focus
from both parents is nothing
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short of a dream, I think.
And I think that a lot of people
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say, well, I love my sister, I
love this.
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I'm like, but you would have
killed for a lot more focus.
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I think that that is the thing
that is undeniably true is that
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a lot of people would get that
up in a second for more focus.
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And more.
Yeah, I mean, interestingly, if
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I if you would have been the 1st
or the second, I mean, would I
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have done what I did?
I mean, if I had a second kid,
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she would have to be over 40 or
we would have we we would have
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had to get lucky earlier, which.
Adoption.
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That would be the only other.
Adoption But I, you know, I
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really, I, I would adopt only if
she had it in her heart that she
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wanted to raise a kid 'cause I
mean, I, I could give a flying
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crap.
I just rather throw money at the
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problem, let somebody else deal
with it.
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That's not something that I'm
personally invested in to raise
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a kid.
I mean, now I look at it and
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say, wow, that'd be kind of cool
to grab kids that are farming
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out.
But then it's like you, you got
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a history of being a I.
I have the same kind of deal and
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that I would only ever have a or
raise a kid if it was my own.
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I don't know why I feel the same
way 'cause it's the 'cause I
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think internally I'm a selfish
person.
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I'm a narcissist.
I'm not.
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I'm not.
I'm not arguing.
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I'm not.
I think it's 'cause I'm a
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narcissistic person and that's
why I would never adopt.
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That's why people, that's what
people say about when you give,
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you know, you give, if you give
money and get and stuff like
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that.
And it's like that you're, I
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mean, I do that for me, 'cause
I'm selfish.
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Like, oh, that's you can't
believe that, you know, And it's
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like, no, it's just it, it's for
me.
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It it makes me happy.
Yeah, but I don't know if I've
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ever been lonely.
I don't know if I ever.
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Lonely.
I don't think I've been lonely.
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Sure.
I think without you.
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Oh, well, yeah, I think.
Well, it's only when there's a
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great quote about loneliness,
and it's only when you're
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thriving for other people around
you, but you can't have access
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to that.
I think that that's what that
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is.
Are you you?
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Well, when you realize it,
that's the.
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Yeah, with the realization if.
You're sitting at home by
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yourself and there's no one
there and there's no one in your
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life.
Then you become that, that I
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guess depressed.
You know, depression is
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different.
Not depression, more sad.
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Do you think it's rooted in the
loneliness?
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I don't think depression is
rooted in the loneliness
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necessarily, but one that maybe
in the not it's a good.
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Trigger I'd imagine.
Oh, a trigger for sure.
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But the inability to overcome a
chemical imbalance in your head,
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I think is more so because I
think, I think, yeah, depression
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is a is a chemical imbalance.
Yeah, in your head, it's like a
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lot of.
Things, you know when you say,
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but, but I mean, if it's an
imbalance, does does it mean
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that, Well, what if everybody's
supposed to be that way?
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Then it's like, is it really
true?
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Well, I think depression, more
so now than ever, exists because
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you have a phone that alters the
endorphins on your day-to-day
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basis.
Yeah, we don't have the, we
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don't have the, the, the
connection.
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I see that people don't have a
connection with each other.
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They don't talk, they don't have
a conversation.
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They have a they have a texting
battle and back and forth.
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And when I text people, I don't
know what they mean.
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I I don't know if you said good
morning or or good morning.
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I don't, I don't know what your
I don't know what your
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inflection was.
I don't know all those things,
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you know, and on a video, the
video like this, I get a lot of
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it and I see it.
This is better.
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But in person, you can't beat in
person for reading people.
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If you, if you, if you care for
someone and you want to read
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like you can tell, you can tell
when they squish, squish their
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fists up or something like that
and they look sad and you, you
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just you know that those are
those are signals.
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Well, your endorphin.
Baseline now is so much higher
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than it was like in the 90s.
I imagine 'cause now you'll get
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a phone in a boost your
endorphins.
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So your body's expecting to
operate at this high level at
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which like you're constantly
high kind of in a way.
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And then when it goes down,
you're like, well, why do I feel
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so weird?
Why do I feel so weird?
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Because your baseline's up here.
And then when you're not on your
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phone and you're not the kind of
around technology, you're
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getting seated by the, the
backlight, you're down here.
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And that's why I think that we
have people killing themselves.
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Isn't that weird that I think
it's like over half of US gun
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deaths are suicide related I
think.
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That's, that's the, that's the
big thing.
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Everyone.
Most.
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Most of them are.
People talk about gun violence
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in this country.
I think they should really talk
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about mental health.
Suicide and then and the number
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one killers are the the veterans
that come back from wars cause
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they've seen shit that you know
ain't natural and ain't normal.
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You know, you see your friend
blow his face off and you're he
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gets killed in front of you and
there's and you can't do
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anything about it.
And then you come back from a
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war and then people start
talking about the war, saying
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that it was a waste of time and
money.
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So you went because you thought
you were fighting for America.
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And then you turned out that you
were just fighting somebody
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because George Bush was pissed
at him.
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Also the the public health
programs or not the public
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health but the the VA is not
great.
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Yeah, well, it's it's better
than it was.
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Oh, certainly not since World
War One.
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Yeah, I would completely agree
it's no longer as shell shot,
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but.
As it gets better, yeah.
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No, that's for sure.
I think my father had PTSD but I
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also I don't think they ever.
He never did anything for that
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in but.
Storm of Beach getting shot if
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he gets shot at, I imagine
you're well, he was shot, you're
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going to have.
So and run over and and beat up
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and you know many, many, many
things.
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I'm going to say that you have
PTSD from even getting shot at
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to begin with, let alone other
things.
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Well that's that's.
It's weird because the the tales
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are there, but when I look for
the documentation I'm having
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trouble finding other
documentation that shows that he
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did something.
Might have stretched the truth,
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I don't know.
Well, yeah, I have no idea, you
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know.
I think a lot of people stretch
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the truth.
I mean, especially if you're
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going over there to fight, you
want to be remembered as a hero,
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not necessarily somebody that
didn't do anything or.
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It does show that he was a he
was a lady.
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He did the beach lead shows that
no doubt in absolutely.
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It shows that he was in Okinawa.
It shows that he was there.
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It doesn't show that he was in
the Korean War.
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Well, the weird thing is is that
was.
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MP, wasn't he?
Yeah, but it doesn't, it doesn't
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show him being in the Korean
War.
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And now here's the weird thing.
He met your, her, my mother.
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Then I think, Laura, I'm not.
I can't figure out how he gets
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out of the military and ends up
in Marion of all places.
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This guy is, You know, there's
no military in college.
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No.
After Graduate joined the Army,
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she was a whack for about 6 or
seven months and then she got an
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honorable discharge and like 51
or 52.
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And what that was is I believe
she became pregnant and I'm not
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quite sure.
And then they had a birth
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certificate for a baby and a
death certificate.
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So I think the kid was born,
stillborn, died, I don't know.
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Very odd.
That is odd.
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You know, but that was the first
of like, my gosh, because we
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would have had that would have
been somebody older than Edwin.
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And how old is Edwin going to
Robbie?
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He's 70, yeah, he's 70.
But we had but and then the old
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man had a sister, 70, I mean,
had another daughter and she's
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72.
She's older than Edwin.
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She's two years older.
So think about that, you know,
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that he leaves one and then or
no, maybe she's 74.
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He's like four or five years
older.
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Not that much, but it's really
odd that he goes from woman to
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woman and has kids right away.
I.
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Feel like a lot of people did
that back then when you went to
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war 'cause you.
Well, he kind of like when.
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He went to war.
That was with the first wife,
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not with the second or third.
Exactly.
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My mother was a third wife.
I'm leaving and I might not see
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you again.
I think that's all what a lot of
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it was cause.
But no, I don't know.
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Because if you think about it,
they didn't really know about
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the death toll until it started.
Yeah, but then when did he did
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he go at the beginning or well,
what time he knew I.
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Don't know.
I mean, he said he was in Korea.
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Oh, in Korea, but before that?
Oh, before that he was in 41.
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The Pacific, right?
Yeah, No, he went, he, yeah,
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they went to Japan.
They were in Okinawa, that was.
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Not the beginning, so lady.
Yeah, that was the beginning for
373
00:19:04,560 --> 00:19:05,680
us.
We didn't remember.
374
00:19:06,240 --> 00:19:09,680
Remember, we did not.
We did not get into the war when
375
00:19:09,680 --> 00:19:12,440
it started.
The war started in 39 when
376
00:19:12,440 --> 00:19:15,240
Hitler was attacking Poland.
We sat on our hands and said we
377
00:19:15,240 --> 00:19:16,560
don't want to be involved in
that.
378
00:19:16,840 --> 00:19:19,400
And there was a great separation
at home.
379
00:19:19,400 --> 00:19:20,960
We don't know.
We don't want to go over there
380
00:19:20,960 --> 00:19:22,560
where the foreigners are and do
that.
381
00:19:22,560 --> 00:19:24,120
Why we want to help the
foreigners.
382
00:19:24,120 --> 00:19:27,040
We hate the foreigners.
And we want, you know, we are a
383
00:19:27,040 --> 00:19:29,680
very isolationist.
We're very, same with Woody
384
00:19:29,680 --> 00:19:31,360
Wilson.
We were very isolationist.
385
00:19:31,600 --> 00:19:33,400
After Pearl Harbor, yeah, we
only.
386
00:19:33,640 --> 00:19:37,720
One Pearl Harbor, then we're
like, well, we got to do it now.
387
00:19:37,800 --> 00:19:39,240
What are you talking about?
World War One.
388
00:19:39,560 --> 00:19:41,600
World War One, World War 22,
same way.
389
00:19:41,640 --> 00:19:42,840
Same way.
We you.
390
00:19:44,600 --> 00:19:48,800
Know, and Roosevelt knew that if
Hitler took over Europe, that he
391
00:19:48,800 --> 00:19:52,480
was going to, if he, if, if, if
the UK fell that eventually
392
00:19:52,480 --> 00:19:58,200
they'd come for us, you know, it
wouldn't be right away, but they
393
00:19:58,200 --> 00:20:01,400
wouldn't, you know, and he'd
have Japan on the other side.
394
00:20:01,400 --> 00:20:03,400
And slowly but surely they
would.
395
00:20:03,400 --> 00:20:05,720
And Japan had already defeated
China for all.
396
00:20:05,760 --> 00:20:09,680
And, you know, it's like, holy
crap, you know?
397
00:20:11,160 --> 00:20:15,400
Yeah, but I haven't been lonely
lately, I gotta say that.
398
00:20:15,880 --> 00:20:19,080
Yeah, I don't think so.
Have you been lonely lately?
399
00:20:20,800 --> 00:20:24,040
I guess a little bit, but I'm,
I'm, I'm, I'm kind of used to it
400
00:20:24,040 --> 00:20:26,560
now, 'cause, you know, your
mother's gone.
401
00:20:26,680 --> 00:20:28,760
She went to, when she went to
New Mexico.
402
00:20:29,280 --> 00:20:33,840
I'm here for 9 days.
I, I deal, you know, But I mean,
403
00:20:33,840 --> 00:20:36,080
I don't know if it's loneliness
or it's like, it's just
404
00:20:36,080 --> 00:20:38,720
different.
It's different to be in a place
405
00:20:39,320 --> 00:20:42,320
for an extended period of time,
more than a day or two, when I
406
00:20:42,320 --> 00:20:44,960
don't have any contact with
people unless I make the effort,
407
00:20:45,880 --> 00:20:47,600
you know?
Well, the house you live in too
408
00:20:47,600 --> 00:20:50,280
is pretty isolated.
Yeah, I live in.
409
00:20:50,280 --> 00:20:51,960
New York, I wouldn't have a
problem 'cause I'd go out and go
410
00:20:51,960 --> 00:20:55,000
to the corner coffee everyday
and I meet people and I talk to
411
00:20:55,000 --> 00:20:59,760
them and it would just be that
whereas here I have to I, I, I
412
00:20:59,760 --> 00:21:02,600
end up going to Giant.
I go to Giant a bunch of times.
413
00:21:02,600 --> 00:21:06,040
I go, I go shopping.
I you know and.
414
00:21:07,640 --> 00:21:13,960
But it's the thing I realize
about McLean, VA is everybody's
415
00:21:13,960 --> 00:21:16,920
in their own thing because
there's not like a lot of social
416
00:21:16,920 --> 00:21:19,520
clubs kind of deal.
I don't know, maybe there are
417
00:21:19,520 --> 00:21:21,240
maybe more.
It's more for younger people, I
418
00:21:21,240 --> 00:21:22,480
think.
And like Rosslyn, no.
419
00:21:22,480 --> 00:21:23,720
No, I think there's there's
older.
420
00:21:23,760 --> 00:21:24,520
Yeah, Ross.
People.
421
00:21:24,520 --> 00:21:26,920
Social clubs.
Yeah, they don't the, I don't
422
00:21:26,920 --> 00:21:29,680
know where, you know, they have
painting classes and stuff like
423
00:21:29,680 --> 00:21:30,720
that.
And I'm thinking, oh, I'm going
424
00:21:30,720 --> 00:21:33,800
to join some of these and do
learn how to paint or learn how
425
00:21:33,800 --> 00:21:37,200
to do pottery or whatever.
But I just got to, I got to get
426
00:21:37,200 --> 00:21:39,120
motivated.
And if you go to like Spring
427
00:21:39,120 --> 00:21:42,200
Hill, they have they have
classes that you go there and
428
00:21:42,520 --> 00:21:45,480
Golly says, shoot, there's a
million old people and she we're
429
00:21:45,480 --> 00:21:47,920
going to do this Chi Dong,
whatever that is.
430
00:21:48,440 --> 00:21:50,840
Oh yeah, we did that about 10
years ago together.
431
00:21:50,840 --> 00:21:52,320
I remember that.
What is chi Dong?
432
00:21:52,640 --> 00:21:55,960
It's they have the, it's like a
gong meditation thing.
433
00:21:55,960 --> 00:21:57,760
No, wait, that's different.
That's a different thing.
434
00:21:57,760 --> 00:22:00,080
No, that's the it's more like
Tai Chi if I remember.
435
00:22:00,400 --> 00:22:03,080
Yeah, yeah, this is where you
you're doing funny little
436
00:22:03,080 --> 00:22:05,360
stretches and stuff like that
and makes you feel better about
437
00:22:05,360 --> 00:22:06,640
yourself.
Yeah.
438
00:22:06,640 --> 00:22:08,840
No, no, I know what you're
talking about.
439
00:22:09,240 --> 00:22:11,640
Yeah, I don't think I have been.
Well, I've been with somebody
440
00:22:11,640 --> 00:22:13,800
for the past 13 days.
You and.
441
00:22:14,760 --> 00:22:18,200
Yeah, me and Christian were in
Mongolia and then Korea.
442
00:22:18,200 --> 00:22:21,920
So I I was actually starving for
the time to be alone.
443
00:22:21,920 --> 00:22:24,520
But what's really cool about him
is that, you know, you go on
444
00:22:24,520 --> 00:22:27,000
trips with people and they play
in every minute and every hour
445
00:22:27,000 --> 00:22:29,000
and every second and you're
going to be bound at the hip.
446
00:22:29,000 --> 00:22:31,120
He's not like that at all.
It's very.
447
00:22:31,960 --> 00:22:35,000
We could do our own thing except
when we were doing the research
448
00:22:35,000 --> 00:22:37,160
work.
But after that, yeah, we had
449
00:22:37,160 --> 00:22:40,800
like 3 days and we had multiple,
multiple hours apart, which is
450
00:22:40,800 --> 00:22:43,640
really nice.
Yeah, you need that break.
451
00:22:44,280 --> 00:22:48,640
You do, or else you go crazy.
And these little things, they do
452
00:22:48,640 --> 00:22:51,200
bother you, no?
Amount of alcohol in the world
453
00:22:51,200 --> 00:22:54,040
can solve that problem.
Well, that usually that that
454
00:22:54,040 --> 00:22:57,200
exacerbates the situation.
You know, you get, you get a
455
00:22:57,200 --> 00:22:59,680
little drunk and you're like,
fuck you, you know, and you're
456
00:22:59,680 --> 00:23:01,640
like.
But then you smoke the cigarette
457
00:23:01,640 --> 00:23:03,160
and then you're fine.
And then yeah, that.
458
00:23:03,160 --> 00:23:05,120
It all melts away.
It all melts away.
459
00:23:05,480 --> 00:23:09,480
Well, I smoke the cigar so but
we know they're they're worse
460
00:23:09,480 --> 00:23:13,240
because they're wet cigars. 30
cigarettes.
461
00:23:13,920 --> 00:23:15,640
Why are you making yawn man?
What's going on?
462
00:23:15,800 --> 00:23:17,120
Yeah, I don't.
I don't I'm.
463
00:23:17,120 --> 00:23:19,560
Lonely so that that must be the
reason that I'm yawning.
464
00:23:19,680 --> 00:23:21,480
Well, how you going to mitigate
your loneliness?
465
00:23:21,560 --> 00:23:22,240
What do you think?
Me.
466
00:23:22,680 --> 00:23:28,040
Yeah, I need.
To you know what?
467
00:23:28,040 --> 00:23:30,240
What is it?
That old ad I used to say life.
468
00:23:30,920 --> 00:23:33,320
You got to live it.
You got I got to make an effort
469
00:23:33,400 --> 00:23:35,640
to join different things and go
to different things.
470
00:23:35,640 --> 00:23:37,240
Well, you used to go to a gym
too.
471
00:23:37,240 --> 00:23:40,120
That was a public gym.
Or not, maybe not.
472
00:23:40,120 --> 00:23:42,280
But I made one at home and it's
better and I can I can
473
00:23:42,280 --> 00:23:44,440
substitute other things.
Is it better though?
474
00:23:44,440 --> 00:23:45,920
I don't.
I don't know if it's better.
475
00:23:46,560 --> 00:23:48,840
No, no, it's not better.
It's absolutely not better.
476
00:23:49,080 --> 00:23:52,160
But right now I am.
I am injured in so many places
477
00:23:52,160 --> 00:23:54,960
that a gym is not something I
can really do.
478
00:23:55,160 --> 00:23:58,440
It was an idea about what?
Other.
479
00:23:58,440 --> 00:23:59,960
That's what I say.
You know what?
480
00:24:00,240 --> 00:24:02,560
You're fired.
I'm making this about me.
481
00:24:02,560 --> 00:24:06,640
It's going to be called a record
of my Zach, and you're done.
482
00:24:06,680 --> 00:24:09,640
You're cut from.
The team a record of my dad
483
00:24:09,640 --> 00:24:11,880
being a Dick, you know?
What we're going to do, it's
484
00:24:11,880 --> 00:24:16,560
going to be and you're no longer
going to get the Gillette Fusion
485
00:24:16,560 --> 00:24:17,800
razors we've been getting in the
mail.
486
00:24:18,320 --> 00:24:19,680
Really.
I'm not sending them.
487
00:24:19,680 --> 00:24:20,520
Do you?
I'm not sending.
488
00:24:20,520 --> 00:24:21,360
Them.
That's not fair.
489
00:24:21,400 --> 00:24:22,760
I.
Want to go check my PO Box?
490
00:24:23,600 --> 00:24:25,080
Really.
I I haven't done that in about a
491
00:24:25,080 --> 00:24:27,560
couple weeks, yeah.
I think we sent you something
492
00:24:27,560 --> 00:24:28,520
didn't.
We, I've been away.
493
00:24:28,520 --> 00:24:30,040
Oh yeah, yeah, I got that a
while ago.
494
00:24:30,040 --> 00:24:31,400
That was about a month ago or
so.
495
00:24:31,440 --> 00:24:32,400
Oh, it's your.
It's your.
496
00:24:32,480 --> 00:24:34,400
Speaking of loneliness, it's
your birthday coming up.
497
00:24:34,400 --> 00:24:35,280
When you what?
What?
498
00:24:35,280 --> 00:24:38,840
Do you want for your?
Birthday May 29th.
499
00:24:38,840 --> 00:24:40,360
Anybody want to send them a gift
You got to send?
500
00:24:40,400 --> 00:24:41,240
You one?
Yeah.
501
00:24:41,240 --> 00:24:45,080
For my birthday I'm thinking
about 3 Rolexes, maybe 4/2 for
502
00:24:45,080 --> 00:24:46,880
each wrist.
So you can be like.
503
00:24:46,880 --> 00:24:48,120
Rolodex.
You can eat Rolodex.
504
00:24:48,120 --> 00:24:51,360
Watch right Flava Flav?
No, you got a Rolodex.
505
00:24:51,400 --> 00:24:54,240
And a big one from my neck too.
Just a giant I.
506
00:24:54,400 --> 00:24:58,640
Remember that one?
I had the that had Who was it?
507
00:24:58,880 --> 00:25:01,960
Mao SE tongue.
Oh, I actually, I'd like that.
508
00:25:01,960 --> 00:25:04,400
If you could find that, I would
love to go to Watchmaker, make
509
00:25:04,400 --> 00:25:05,400
that work.
That'd be sick.
510
00:25:05,640 --> 00:25:07,560
Yeah, that was cool.
That'd be really cool.
511
00:25:07,560 --> 00:25:09,880
I think I know where it is too.
It used to be my everything
512
00:25:09,880 --> 00:25:13,800
drawer that I had when I was a
kid and which I put rocks in
513
00:25:13,800 --> 00:25:16,880
from the yard.
And mom opened it one day, I
514
00:25:16,880 --> 00:25:19,240
think, when we were redesigning
my room.
515
00:25:19,240 --> 00:25:20,720
And she's like, what is this
nice, though?
516
00:25:20,720 --> 00:25:23,280
That's the everything rock
drawer, and there's about 40
517
00:25:23,280 --> 00:25:26,560
rocks in there, Yeah.
Well, I need to bring rocks in
518
00:25:26,560 --> 00:25:28,600
from the yard.
They look nice, they're good
519
00:25:28,600 --> 00:25:29,800
looking rocks.
I mean what?
520
00:25:29,800 --> 00:25:32,080
What do you mean what?
What kind of question is that?
521
00:25:32,080 --> 00:25:34,160
I.
Don't know man, you surprised
522
00:25:34,160 --> 00:25:38,480
me.
Sometimes no, but actually many
523
00:25:38,480 --> 00:25:40,920
times you do.
I kind of want another drawer
524
00:25:40,920 --> 00:25:42,360
like that.
The Rock.
525
00:25:42,360 --> 00:25:43,920
Drawer.
Instead of the sock drawer, you
526
00:25:43,920 --> 00:25:46,640
want a rock door.
Rocked or I also want an Oregon
527
00:25:46,640 --> 00:25:47,960
accumulator.
You know what that is?
528
00:25:48,400 --> 00:25:50,520
A who?
An Oregon accumulator.
529
00:25:51,240 --> 00:25:53,680
Oregon.
Oregon accumulator
530
00:25:53,680 --> 00:26:00,200
ORGUNEACCUMULA What is it?
Tor It's a box.
531
00:26:00,200 --> 00:26:03,680
It's a metal box with a chair.
Think like, think outhouse,
532
00:26:03,680 --> 00:26:06,000
right?
But it's smaller and it goes in
533
00:26:06,000 --> 00:26:09,560
your regular house and you go in
there and you think really hard
534
00:26:09,560 --> 00:26:12,120
and then you you exit, you close
the door really quickly and
535
00:26:12,120 --> 00:26:15,680
apparently it harnesses the
energy from your mind and it
536
00:26:15,680 --> 00:26:18,720
exists in a box.
William Burroughs used to use
537
00:26:18,720 --> 00:26:21,440
these in every single place that
he lived and he lived in.
538
00:26:21,440 --> 00:26:23,920
Wasn't he a heroin addict too?
He was a heroin addict for about
539
00:26:23,920 --> 00:26:26,320
50.
Years, yes and no, wait, sorry,
540
00:26:26,320 --> 00:26:29,960
39 years.
But he was a a big believer and
541
00:26:29,960 --> 00:26:32,400
it's a huge pseudoscience.
But I mean, it's a really a
542
00:26:32,400 --> 00:26:34,640
pseudoscience if it works.
I don't think so.
543
00:26:35,000 --> 00:26:37,640
I don't think it's a
pseudoscience if it works well.
544
00:26:37,680 --> 00:26:40,640
The question is, is.
When you say it works, that's
545
00:26:40,640 --> 00:26:42,720
the, I mean that's the problem
that they have with the current
546
00:26:42,720 --> 00:26:46,440
guy that's in Health and Human
Services Kennedy, where he's
547
00:26:46,440 --> 00:26:50,160
saying that the vaccine doesn't
work or this does and this does
548
00:26:50,160 --> 00:26:51,840
work.
You should take some Corykin or
549
00:26:51,840 --> 00:26:55,280
something like that.
And in reality it doesn't work.
550
00:26:55,360 --> 00:26:57,520
They have they don't have any
studies that prove that those
551
00:26:57,520 --> 00:27:02,200
things that he's saying to take
or do actually work OK and
552
00:27:02,200 --> 00:27:05,160
that's that's the that's the
problem that's really a problem
553
00:27:05,160 --> 00:27:07,320
when you give miss different
page to people, especially when
554
00:27:07,320 --> 00:27:08,800
you do it from a position of
power.
555
00:27:09,120 --> 00:27:10,840
Well, I think it's kind of
interesting there's.
556
00:27:10,840 --> 00:27:15,240
This comedian that was reviewing
the the Kennedy kind of deal
557
00:27:15,240 --> 00:27:18,280
about the the summer Easter egg
hunt for autism.
558
00:27:18,320 --> 00:27:21,440
And so the comedian was putting
it and he's like, by the end of
559
00:27:21,440 --> 00:27:24,360
the summer, we're going to
figure out what gives people
560
00:27:24,360 --> 00:27:28,320
autism, whether it's the way you
raise your children or if it's
561
00:27:28,320 --> 00:27:31,160
from vaccines.
And I think that it's funny that
562
00:27:31,160 --> 00:27:33,360
I think isn't it just a genetic
mutation?
563
00:27:33,440 --> 00:27:35,320
Like I think that that's what we
already know about it.
564
00:27:35,320 --> 00:27:37,040
And that's, well, there's, I
mean, and I think the.
565
00:27:37,080 --> 00:27:39,600
Some of the stuff they say is
just absolutely stupid.
566
00:27:39,600 --> 00:27:41,600
You know, we never know.
We never had this many kids have
567
00:27:41,600 --> 00:27:44,920
autism and we never did.
And it's like, well, but we
568
00:27:44,920 --> 00:27:49,560
didn't know what it was.
OK, Well, I think also people.
569
00:27:50,160 --> 00:27:54,600
Kids don't have polio anymore.
They used to have polio all the.
570
00:27:54,600 --> 00:27:57,080
Time and what happened?
They would die.
571
00:27:58,240 --> 00:28:00,840
And you know what happened?
Vaccinated them.
572
00:28:01,240 --> 00:28:02,440
Well, that's what happened too.
You have.
573
00:28:02,440 --> 00:28:04,560
These parents that are
vaccinated for smallpox and
574
00:28:04,560 --> 00:28:06,040
they're like, well, I'm not
going to vaccinate my kids.
575
00:28:06,040 --> 00:28:07,440
And then their kids die and then
they're sad.
576
00:28:07,880 --> 00:28:11,360
And it's like, I think that
that's, well, the the worst.
577
00:28:11,360 --> 00:28:13,080
Of the ones that say I'm not
going to get, I'm not going to
578
00:28:13,120 --> 00:28:16,160
give any new kids measles
vaccines when their kids die of
579
00:28:16,880 --> 00:28:19,240
measles and you're just like, oh
really?
580
00:28:19,240 --> 00:28:22,040
They die on that hill.
Yeah, they die on that hill.
581
00:28:22,040 --> 00:28:23,560
They die on that hill.
And that to me is like.
582
00:28:23,800 --> 00:28:27,600
If I had made a mistake and I
had believed something and it
583
00:28:27,600 --> 00:28:31,000
made you die, I would not.
Well, maybe I wouldn't.
584
00:28:31,400 --> 00:28:32,800
You can answer a question for
me.
585
00:28:32,800 --> 00:28:37,800
Is it better to be alive and
sick for a period, period of
586
00:28:37,800 --> 00:28:42,280
time or dead and not sick?
I'm gonna go with alive and sick
587
00:28:42,320 --> 00:28:45,880
on that one.
I'm gonna go alive and sick on
588
00:28:45,880 --> 00:28:47,640
that one.
I mean, I think that.
589
00:28:47,840 --> 00:28:53,400
That if I could live and be
healthy for 65 years the whole
590
00:28:53,400 --> 00:28:56,840
time or I could live and be
healthy for 50 years, but I
591
00:28:56,840 --> 00:29:01,160
would, but I would live to be
say 80 and my last 30 years
592
00:29:01,160 --> 00:29:04,760
would be sick.
I would take 65 healthy.
593
00:29:05,360 --> 00:29:07,520
You know what I mean?
I mean sick is in like.
594
00:29:07,520 --> 00:29:09,040
You get measles and you actually
survive.
595
00:29:09,040 --> 00:29:11,320
That was the point of the the
analogy.
596
00:29:11,400 --> 00:29:15,720
But yeah, no, I'd rather be
alive and sick.
597
00:29:15,800 --> 00:29:18,520
But no, I mean, not really.
But if, if we're talking
598
00:29:18,960 --> 00:29:21,760
vegetative state, no.
Well, people always people
599
00:29:21,760 --> 00:29:23,280
always.
Say that they get, oh, I get
600
00:29:23,280 --> 00:29:24,920
sick from the vaccine.
It's like, well, you know what
601
00:29:24,920 --> 00:29:26,960
it is?
It's, it's because people, it
602
00:29:26,960 --> 00:29:29,520
seems like people don't
understand what it is that it's
603
00:29:29,840 --> 00:29:31,840
absolutely.
It's a little piece of the.
604
00:29:32,080 --> 00:29:35,880
The the, the disease itself and
they're in and they're getting
605
00:29:35,880 --> 00:29:37,880
your immune system to build up
against it.
606
00:29:37,880 --> 00:29:41,520
So if you were, if you were
going to have a really, really,
607
00:29:41,520 --> 00:29:45,360
really hard time the first time,
if you get really sick from it
608
00:29:45,400 --> 00:29:49,520
when you get the vaccine, then
you were, your body was totally
609
00:29:49,520 --> 00:29:53,920
unprepared to get sick from it
'cause you would have just died.
610
00:29:54,040 --> 00:29:55,160
This kind of goes back to our
whole.
611
00:29:55,160 --> 00:29:57,200
Conversation on how America
doesn't understand what
612
00:29:57,200 --> 00:30:00,040
socialism really is as well.
And it seems like there's been
613
00:30:00,040 --> 00:30:02,680
these misdirections in MIS
education.
614
00:30:02,920 --> 00:30:06,080
But it's also on purpose though,
'cause you see the the textbooks
615
00:30:06,080 --> 00:30:09,560
that are sold in different
States and that sell better than
616
00:30:09,560 --> 00:30:11,400
the others.
But back to loneliness.
617
00:30:12,280 --> 00:30:16,000
Yeah, yeah.
Do you think the loneliness is?
618
00:30:16,240 --> 00:30:22,080
Is makes a high suicide rate.
I feel like I don't know.
619
00:30:22,080 --> 00:30:24,680
Well, you look at China and you
look at other countries like
620
00:30:24,680 --> 00:30:26,480
that.
Japan, they're overworked,
621
00:30:26,560 --> 00:30:28,280
they're overworked.
They're not lonely.
622
00:30:28,320 --> 00:30:31,160
Do you think they're overworked
more so than they're lonely, or
623
00:30:31,160 --> 00:30:32,800
do you think it's a common?
I definitely think it's a
624
00:30:32,800 --> 00:30:36,040
combination, but I don't know.
Well, Japan.
625
00:30:36,040 --> 00:30:38,000
'S yeah #1 suicide.
I think it's Japan.
626
00:30:38,240 --> 00:30:39,600
It's the overworking and then
the.
627
00:30:39,600 --> 00:30:42,080
Embarrassment with comes with
not meeting project deadlines, I
628
00:30:42,080 --> 00:30:46,160
imagine, which is which I guess
is being isolated from a main
629
00:30:46,160 --> 00:30:49,520
group, which is kind of lonely.
How you think about that?
630
00:30:50,320 --> 00:30:52,320
Yeah, when you're fighting.
Against the group, it's hard.
631
00:30:52,720 --> 00:30:54,440
I mean, you, you've done that.
I've done that.
632
00:30:54,960 --> 00:30:58,520
It's very difficult to fight
against a a large group and to
633
00:30:58,520 --> 00:31:00,600
disagree with them.
That's true.
634
00:31:00,600 --> 00:31:04,200
But you know I mean.
That's been pretty much my whole
635
00:31:04,200 --> 00:31:06,840
life.
When I think about the different
636
00:31:06,840 --> 00:31:09,120
businesses that we started and
people said, oh, no one's ever
637
00:31:09,120 --> 00:31:12,840
going to do that.
And you're like, I disagree, you
638
00:31:12,840 --> 00:31:14,720
know, Well, that's what I'm
doing now.
639
00:31:14,720 --> 00:31:16,960
It's like, I'm gonna go shoot
this project in Mongolia and
640
00:31:16,960 --> 00:31:19,080
people are like, but you've
never done a feature before.
641
00:31:19,080 --> 00:31:22,440
And I'm like, I know people who
are almost 40 that say, well,
642
00:31:22,440 --> 00:31:23,840
I'm not really ready for my
feature.
643
00:31:23,840 --> 00:31:25,120
I'm not really ready to shoot a
feature.
644
00:31:25,120 --> 00:31:27,240
You got to fuck it up now.
When are you gonna?
645
00:31:27,240 --> 00:31:28,240
When are you gonna be?
Ready.
646
00:31:28,320 --> 00:31:29,680
I mean, it's gonna be ready.
There's so.
647
00:31:29,680 --> 00:31:32,400
Many people that.
Say that that are never ready,
648
00:31:32,760 --> 00:31:35,640
you're never, never willing to
jump off the Cliff and it's like
649
00:31:35,640 --> 00:31:37,760
you'll die then and you'll never
have done it.
650
00:31:37,760 --> 00:31:40,400
And it's just 'cause every day
is a gift.
651
00:31:40,400 --> 00:31:41,920
Every day that I wake up is a
gift.
652
00:31:42,200 --> 00:31:44,840
Every day that I wake up when I
get to use my legs to walk to
653
00:31:44,840 --> 00:31:50,320
the kitchen or use my, my mind
to think of picking up my phone
654
00:31:50,320 --> 00:31:52,880
and being doom scrolling for
hours on it is a gift.
655
00:31:53,360 --> 00:31:56,120
And I think that that is
incredible.
656
00:31:56,160 --> 00:31:59,400
But at the same time, you can't
squander the gift without having
657
00:31:59,400 --> 00:32:02,840
to take some sort of risk.
And I think that that's, that's
658
00:32:02,840 --> 00:32:05,600
the biggest truth.
That's the biggest truth, yeah.
659
00:32:05,600 --> 00:32:08,160
The risk, the gift.
Is earned well, that's what I
660
00:32:08,160 --> 00:32:10,520
want.
I mean when I there there's
661
00:32:10,520 --> 00:32:17,080
nothing you can do to make me
more proud than to live your 20s
662
00:32:17,640 --> 00:32:21,920
Find out what truly find out
what true direction makes you
663
00:32:21,920 --> 00:32:24,800
happy.
You know I mean it would be cool
664
00:32:24,920 --> 00:32:27,280
if you went and got your four
year business degree got out
665
00:32:27,280 --> 00:32:29,560
became an accountant or a lawyer
and did the whole thing like
666
00:32:29,560 --> 00:32:32,000
that and you had this structured
thing going up and everybody
667
00:32:32,000 --> 00:32:35,360
would be they could measure you
against society and things like
668
00:32:35,360 --> 00:32:37,240
that.
But I think the fact that you're
669
00:32:37,240 --> 00:32:41,240
doing something that to me is
harder than anything I ever did,
670
00:32:42,080 --> 00:32:45,480
but that that's what it's just
like, wow, that that I can't
671
00:32:45,480 --> 00:32:48,640
imagine, you know, when you
started out and you're going
672
00:32:48,640 --> 00:32:50,960
after acting and then and then
you're now you're doing
673
00:32:51,480 --> 00:32:53,400
producing and you're like, no,
I'm going to, I want to be AI
674
00:32:53,400 --> 00:32:55,400
want to, I want to be a
executive producer.
675
00:32:55,400 --> 00:32:57,520
I'm going to do this.
I'm going to well, it's because
676
00:32:57,520 --> 00:32:58,440
I'm going to do this.
I'm going.
677
00:32:58,440 --> 00:33:00,320
To do this.
You know, and I'm like, Oh my
678
00:33:00,320 --> 00:33:04,880
God, this is just.
And to see it happen, it's just
679
00:33:04,880 --> 00:33:06,760
from beginning to end, soup to
nuts.
680
00:33:06,760 --> 00:33:09,080
It's just like, that's wild.
As soon as I did that last
681
00:33:09,080 --> 00:33:10,320
project.
I'm like, why am I not doing
682
00:33:10,320 --> 00:33:12,320
this under my own company?
I should just do it under my own
683
00:33:12,320 --> 00:33:15,000
company.
Yeah, 'cause that's what a bunch
684
00:33:15,000 --> 00:33:17,160
of famous production houses have
done.
685
00:33:17,800 --> 00:33:20,880
Is it just whether they realize
that they're amiable and that
686
00:33:20,880 --> 00:33:24,600
they're good at one finding
funny, but they're also good at
687
00:33:24,600 --> 00:33:27,280
reading a script or putting
together a team?
688
00:33:28,000 --> 00:33:29,680
And I think that that's what I
realized that I'm good at.
689
00:33:29,680 --> 00:33:33,760
And then more so, I also like
the, I think the acting classes
690
00:33:33,760 --> 00:33:36,200
I was taking.
I was shaking before every
691
00:33:36,200 --> 00:33:38,120
single scene.
I'm like, I don't like doing
692
00:33:38,120 --> 00:33:40,120
this.
I don't like doing this.
693
00:33:40,120 --> 00:33:43,200
I like creating the art and
doing the team and then even
694
00:33:43,200 --> 00:33:45,760
standing behind the camera and
associating myself with the
695
00:33:45,760 --> 00:33:47,160
different shots that we're
taking.
696
00:33:47,160 --> 00:33:49,760
We're coming up with an idea of
shooting a full length project
697
00:33:49,760 --> 00:33:51,680
in that's foreign country and
establishing those
698
00:33:51,680 --> 00:33:54,360
relationships.
I love that, but I don't like
699
00:33:54,720 --> 00:33:56,920
being an actor.
I don't enjoy it except for the
700
00:33:56,920 --> 00:33:58,520
time in college.
For some reason, it was
701
00:33:58,520 --> 00:34:00,160
different than I think that it
was.
702
00:34:00,800 --> 00:34:03,640
If I had more access to stage
work, I think that I would be
703
00:34:03,760 --> 00:34:06,880
more apartment.
But camera work is just nothing
704
00:34:06,880 --> 00:34:10,840
short of the 9th circle of hell.
I think I would.
705
00:34:10,840 --> 00:34:13,760
I would say yeah, Yeah.
Oh.
706
00:34:13,760 --> 00:34:17,000
Wow, but you don't think you're
lonely?
707
00:34:18,920 --> 00:34:23,159
Not really.
Ever since I I'm pretty well
708
00:34:23,159 --> 00:34:26,199
surrounded with people and and
that's another.
709
00:34:26,199 --> 00:34:29,679
Thing that I've done is that
I've I've been conscientious and
710
00:34:29,679 --> 00:34:33,840
reaching out to people from my
past and making sure that I see
711
00:34:33,840 --> 00:34:36,199
them periodically.
That's what I just did for the
712
00:34:36,239 --> 00:34:37,560
one.
Way or the other if I don't do.
713
00:34:37,560 --> 00:34:39,840
That I won't ever.
We'll never be friends.
714
00:34:39,840 --> 00:34:41,280
We'll just drift away.
We'll drift apart.
715
00:34:41,560 --> 00:34:43,600
I, I, I started, I set time
frames.
716
00:34:43,600 --> 00:34:45,719
Like when I meet my college
buddy.
717
00:34:45,719 --> 00:34:47,920
I meet him every three months
for we do.
718
00:34:47,920 --> 00:34:52,080
We do lunch at his house or my
and I said, I don't care if you
719
00:34:52,080 --> 00:34:53,800
come or don't come.
I'll drive there every time.
720
00:34:53,800 --> 00:34:56,800
I care less because I'm going to
you matter, you know, and I have
721
00:34:56,800 --> 00:35:00,200
like the shaws.
They matter and Conrad matters
722
00:35:00,200 --> 00:35:04,120
and Jim matters and Jose matters
and there's all these people in
723
00:35:04,120 --> 00:35:09,560
my life that matter.
And so I make an effort to to
724
00:35:09,560 --> 00:35:11,520
reach out to them because I
think that's important.
725
00:35:11,520 --> 00:35:16,240
Isn't it funny how?
You can know somebody for 50 and
726
00:35:16,240 --> 00:35:19,480
you know, let's say if we're
infinite beings and you've known
727
00:35:19,480 --> 00:35:24,960
somebody for as long as you can
remember and when it comes down
728
00:35:24,960 --> 00:35:28,760
to driving, that's when human
beings start to split airs.
729
00:35:29,160 --> 00:35:31,120
I think that that's really
that's really interesting
730
00:35:32,200 --> 00:35:33,480
travel.
It's coming in your.
731
00:35:33,480 --> 00:35:36,520
Direction.
But then I remember, I mean, we
732
00:35:36,520 --> 00:35:39,320
had relatives that lived in
Southwest Virginia and they
733
00:35:39,320 --> 00:35:41,520
would come up and we lived in
Woodbridge.
734
00:35:42,040 --> 00:35:46,880
They would go to the Potomac
Mills Mall, up the Potomac Mills
735
00:35:46,880 --> 00:35:49,360
Mall, which was 5 miles from her
house.
736
00:35:50,000 --> 00:35:51,520
And they would stay at a hotel
there.
737
00:35:51,600 --> 00:35:53,840
And they would not tell us they
were in town.
738
00:35:55,600 --> 00:35:56,920
I mean, we, we would come over
like you.
739
00:35:56,920 --> 00:35:58,160
I don't think they like, I
don't.
740
00:35:58,160 --> 00:35:59,600
Know, I think everybody kind of.
Hated us.
741
00:35:59,640 --> 00:36:01,360
I think they, they, I don't
think they liked you.
742
00:36:01,600 --> 00:36:03,120
That's why, yeah, they.
Don't I?
743
00:36:03,120 --> 00:36:04,560
They didn't like my.
Mother, they didn't like my
744
00:36:04,560 --> 00:36:05,760
father.
They didn't like anybody.
745
00:36:05,760 --> 00:36:12,400
And so it sort of seemed, you
know, I think that was it.
746
00:36:13,120 --> 00:36:15,800
Yeah, probably so.
And I don't know if it.
747
00:36:15,800 --> 00:36:17,800
Was deserved or?
Not, you know, you can't.
748
00:36:17,840 --> 00:36:19,840
You can't 'cause you weren't
there at the time.
749
00:36:19,960 --> 00:36:22,720
Well, I know I've met a lot of.
People in my life that I off the
750
00:36:22,720 --> 00:36:24,760
first RIP, I don't like and I'm
like, why would I try this
751
00:36:24,760 --> 00:36:25,960
again?
That's kind of like that.
752
00:36:26,280 --> 00:36:28,560
But then I do, and there are
some people that I've These were
753
00:36:28,560 --> 00:36:30,000
relatives, though these were
not.
754
00:36:30,320 --> 00:36:31,360
These were.
Relatives.
755
00:36:31,480 --> 00:36:34,520
I think that that's a very.
Abject thing as well I think
756
00:36:34,520 --> 00:36:39,720
that the idea that these are
like brothers of my mother OK I
757
00:36:39,720 --> 00:36:41,840
mean if you had a brother that.
Would be like that, would be
758
00:36:41,840 --> 00:36:46,680
like Edwin coming here and
coming to McLean and eating at
759
00:36:46,680 --> 00:36:48,520
the third.
Cousins or something eating this
760
00:36:48,560 --> 00:36:51,960
eating at the Silver diner.
And not telling me, oh, I went
761
00:36:51,960 --> 00:36:55,720
up to Tyson's, I was shopping
there and I and I and oh, you
762
00:36:55,720 --> 00:36:59,680
were here for five days and you
and you didn't call.
763
00:36:59,840 --> 00:37:01,480
That's crazy.
I would be like.
764
00:37:01,960 --> 00:37:04,000
I I would be.
You're kidding me, for some
765
00:37:04,000 --> 00:37:06,400
reason I read this more.
As extended family and not
766
00:37:06,400 --> 00:37:08,520
necessarily oh extended family
like uncles.
767
00:37:08,520 --> 00:37:11,320
Of cousins if it was like a. 3rd
I was reading this as third
768
00:37:11,320 --> 00:37:12,760
cousin I wouldn't care but this
was.
769
00:37:12,840 --> 00:37:16,240
No, these people were, you know,
direct relatives and you were
770
00:37:16,240 --> 00:37:18,600
just like, that's that's fucked
off.
771
00:37:18,800 --> 00:37:20,520
Yeah, no, that never mind.
I take that.
772
00:37:20,520 --> 00:37:21,640
Yeah, they were.
They were.
773
00:37:21,880 --> 00:37:24,200
That's a little crazy, I mean.
You know, preachy.
774
00:37:24,200 --> 00:37:27,360
And all this kind of stuff like
that, but just abject assholes,
775
00:37:27,360 --> 00:37:29,360
I would say.
Yeah, no, that's.
776
00:37:29,480 --> 00:37:32,440
That's pretty terrible.
That's Yeah, that's so.
777
00:37:32,760 --> 00:37:35,880
That's awful.
Yeah, that's what I.
778
00:37:35,880 --> 00:37:37,440
Thought that's not great.
That's bad.
779
00:37:37,440 --> 00:37:40,960
That's what I thought.
You know, oh wait, what's the?
780
00:37:40,960 --> 00:37:44,280
Runtime here.
Oh, we're at about. 40 minutes.
781
00:37:44,480 --> 00:37:45,520
40 minutes.
OK.
782
00:37:46,040 --> 00:37:49,360
What are you getting old?
You can't talk.
783
00:37:49,400 --> 00:37:51,000
As long as you used to.
Can you?
784
00:37:51,000 --> 00:37:53,200
Well, the muscle is an.
Exercise right now.
785
00:37:53,400 --> 00:37:56,640
And I'm also still jet lagged
AF.
786
00:37:57,840 --> 00:37:58,840
Yeah.
Got back yesterday.
787
00:37:58,840 --> 00:37:59,800
Oh, yeah.
Well, you know, we could fill
788
00:37:59,800 --> 00:38:02,360
the last 10 minutes with that.
Where'd you go?
789
00:38:02,720 --> 00:38:06,520
I went to Mongolia and then
Mongolia research.
790
00:38:06,520 --> 00:38:11,360
I actually messaged somebody and
they said here's my cultural
791
00:38:11,360 --> 00:38:14,840
correspondent.
And then I met with a cultural
792
00:38:14,840 --> 00:38:17,600
correspondent.
She drove us with another man
793
00:38:17,600 --> 00:38:21,760
who was a local celebrity, not
local, I mean local celebrities
794
00:38:21,760 --> 00:38:23,880
in the entire country.
Like he would walk into people's
795
00:38:23,880 --> 00:38:25,840
houses and they would be like,
oh, you're that guy from that
796
00:38:25,840 --> 00:38:27,400
movie.
It was crazy.
797
00:38:27,440 --> 00:38:33,360
And then we did like probably 9
interviews on our protagonist.
798
00:38:33,360 --> 00:38:36,680
So we're doing we're.
So the research phase of the the
799
00:38:36,680 --> 00:38:39,920
project is done with the project
is a feature link documentary
800
00:38:40,640 --> 00:38:42,640
and it's going to be broken up
into three different people's
801
00:38:42,640 --> 00:38:46,080
lives.
And it's about a lot of things.
802
00:38:46,160 --> 00:38:49,880
It's about the effect that
mining has had on Mongolia for
803
00:38:49,880 --> 00:38:54,600
the past, since Soviets laughed
really, and how you've had these
804
00:38:54,600 --> 00:38:59,160
foreign entities come in and rob
the land of its nutrients.
805
00:38:59,160 --> 00:39:03,760
And it's about memory of what
was before this happened.
806
00:39:03,760 --> 00:39:08,000
And it's also about what
Mongolia has always based on and
807
00:39:08,000 --> 00:39:11,000
how Mongolia has taken over the
world twice with the strength of
808
00:39:11,000 --> 00:39:15,760
its horses, and now its horses
are also implied of the stoicism
809
00:39:15,760 --> 00:39:18,760
that is in the people there.
And I think that that's really
810
00:39:18,760 --> 00:39:21,120
what it's about.
Wow, That's exactly what it's
811
00:39:21,120 --> 00:39:23,920
about.
And no, there it was.
812
00:39:23,920 --> 00:39:27,600
The hospitality was nothing
short of probably the best thing
813
00:39:27,600 --> 00:39:30,480
I've ever seen in my life.
Hands down the most hospitable
814
00:39:30,480 --> 00:39:32,560
people.
This guy's walking in people's
815
00:39:32,560 --> 00:39:34,960
houses, and I was like, he knows
these people, right?
816
00:39:34,960 --> 00:39:36,680
She's like, no, he's never met
him in his life.
817
00:39:36,920 --> 00:39:40,120
And it was just nothing short.
They didn't shoot him.
818
00:39:40,120 --> 00:39:41,240
It was a gift.
Exactly.
819
00:39:41,240 --> 00:39:43,080
That's what we were saying, was
like, you walk in somebody's
820
00:39:43,080 --> 00:39:44,040
house and, you know, it's your
dad.
821
00:39:44,840 --> 00:39:46,440
She was like, really?
That's all I want.
822
00:39:46,440 --> 00:39:48,360
I'm like, yeah, yeah, they're
stupid.
823
00:39:48,760 --> 00:39:51,200
Yeah.
Because your immediate thing is.
824
00:39:51,200 --> 00:39:53,400
To think bad?
No, exactly, we think.
825
00:39:53,400 --> 00:39:55,440
Evil.
Well, Canadians even leave their
826
00:39:55,440 --> 00:39:58,680
houses open all the time.
They just leave their front door
827
00:39:58,680 --> 00:40:00,000
unlocked.
And this one guy was like, well,
828
00:40:00,000 --> 00:40:01,240
the worst thing that ever
happened was these.
829
00:40:01,560 --> 00:40:04,440
Teenagers came and took like 1/5
of my liquor or something.
830
00:40:04,440 --> 00:40:08,040
Left and he's like, oh, OK,
yeah, that's not that bad.
831
00:40:08,920 --> 00:40:10,440
Not that bad.
But yeah.
832
00:40:10,520 --> 00:40:14,000
Then I went to Korea after and I
saw Thomas Clark, who I've known
833
00:40:14,080 --> 00:40:17,960
for 15 years and.
Yeah, fifth grade.
834
00:40:17,960 --> 00:40:18,840
What are you?
How old are you?
835
00:40:18,840 --> 00:40:21,920
In fifth grade, Like 10?
Yeah, about 15 years.
836
00:40:21,920 --> 00:40:26,360
Yeah.
So I saw him and then I saw my
837
00:40:26,360 --> 00:40:28,720
friend's friend who's he's since
middle school.
838
00:40:28,720 --> 00:40:31,960
So probably more like what is
that in like 10 years?
839
00:40:32,240 --> 00:40:35,080
And then Thomas is doing well.
He moved to Korea.
840
00:40:35,400 --> 00:40:40,120
Is it the Tank Engine or no?
That was that was a that was a
841
00:40:40,120 --> 00:40:42,760
low joke.
Try to make him funny next time
842
00:40:46,080 --> 00:40:47,800
you like that.
I was you trying to be a
843
00:40:47,800 --> 00:40:49,480
comedian.
That was that was pretty
844
00:40:49,800 --> 00:40:52,000
flippant.
Yep, it was.
845
00:40:52,160 --> 00:40:57,520
And then, and then it came back.
Yeah, it was 13 days, but then
846
00:40:57,520 --> 00:40:59,520
we're going to go back in August
and then we're going to shoot
847
00:40:59,520 --> 00:41:00,600
the whole bunch.
Yeah, you're just, you're
848
00:41:00,600 --> 00:41:04,280
tanking my.
Trip, I blame you the the trip
849
00:41:04,280 --> 00:41:05,880
you planned.
Today I'm going to, Yeah, I
850
00:41:05,960 --> 00:41:07,040
know.
I'm going to call them and I'm
851
00:41:07,040 --> 00:41:08,480
going to.
Tell them that we have.
852
00:41:08,600 --> 00:41:10,680
Well, maybe we can go later, but
I have no idea.
853
00:41:10,680 --> 00:41:14,400
I think August is like the month
for doing that because it's so
854
00:41:14,400 --> 00:41:17,600
cold otherwise.
You know they, but they.
855
00:41:17,600 --> 00:41:20,480
Have a whole bunch of trips in
June, July and August.
856
00:41:20,480 --> 00:41:22,840
Those are the big ones.
So we'll probably go in 2026.
857
00:41:22,840 --> 00:41:25,760
That's what I'm thinking.
OK, you know, I, I'm just
858
00:41:25,760 --> 00:41:28,720
thinking I'll do that cause and
I really want to do, but it's 14
859
00:41:28,720 --> 00:41:30,840
days and I was like, that's a
long time.
860
00:41:30,880 --> 00:41:33,360
That's a long time.
I mean that that's the, that's
861
00:41:33,360 --> 00:41:35,080
the.
Kicker I I was like, that's 14
862
00:41:35,080 --> 00:41:35,920
days.
That's painful.
863
00:41:35,920 --> 00:41:40,440
We certainly won't be lonely.
Watch it 13 and I'd say 11.
864
00:41:40,440 --> 00:41:42,960
Day 11.
I was like, OK, we're in Korea
865
00:41:43,600 --> 00:41:46,440
because we kind of, it kind of
added like a company retreat
866
00:41:46,440 --> 00:41:48,880
aspect to it because we were
doing research for 9 days
867
00:41:48,880 --> 00:41:52,960
straight every every single day,
24 hours a day we were on except
868
00:41:52,960 --> 00:41:54,160
for the 8 hours we were
sleeping.
869
00:41:54,160 --> 00:42:00,240
So I guess not the full 24.
But yeah, that was really rough.
870
00:42:00,440 --> 00:42:04,840
It was really rough.
And but we overcame and then we
871
00:42:05,240 --> 00:42:08,280
made, did some of the best
research, no, the best research
872
00:42:08,280 --> 00:42:12,160
I've ever done in my life.
So incredibly rewarding
873
00:42:12,160 --> 00:42:14,880
experience.
And then I was like, we, we
874
00:42:14,880 --> 00:42:17,040
need, we need some sort of
relaxation.
875
00:42:17,120 --> 00:42:19,520
So I went to Korea and it was
great.
876
00:42:19,880 --> 00:42:23,240
And I relaxed and I saw some
people and I learned about Korea
877
00:42:24,440 --> 00:42:28,000
and now I'm back.
It's funny, I'm waking up here.
878
00:42:28,000 --> 00:42:31,520
I'm like, where am I?
Because I woke up and I was
879
00:42:31,520 --> 00:42:33,080
like, I asked my girlfriend
like, where are we?
880
00:42:33,920 --> 00:42:36,440
And then she's like, we're.
In my apartment, I was like your
881
00:42:36,440 --> 00:42:41,040
apartment where because I've
been in like, Oh my God, because
882
00:42:41,040 --> 00:42:43,960
it a hotel.
It's like I I never stayed in a
883
00:42:43,960 --> 00:42:48,360
place in one day more than like
or one place more than a day.
884
00:42:48,360 --> 00:42:51,720
And it's just been yeah, go, go,
go.
885
00:42:51,960 --> 00:42:53,040
Yeah, it's been.
Go, go, go.
886
00:42:53,280 --> 00:42:56,720
We've had trips like that.
Yeah, it's hard when you when
887
00:42:56,720 --> 00:42:59,480
you travel every two days then
that's why the wife and I won't.
888
00:43:00,320 --> 00:43:03,960
Yeah, we go places.
We, we, we have to stay two to
889
00:43:03,960 --> 00:43:07,120
three nights in every hotel
'cause it's like if 33's
890
00:43:07,120 --> 00:43:11,400
optimal, but 'cause then you get
a chance to land and take, take
891
00:43:11,400 --> 00:43:12,960
your underwear out of the
suitcase.
892
00:43:12,960 --> 00:43:16,520
Otherwise it's and you can't.
And we, we generally don't stay
893
00:43:16,520 --> 00:43:19,920
longer than 10 days anywhere.
Yeah, I'm glad.
894
00:43:19,920 --> 00:43:22,320
We even Sicily was long.
I was like, yeah.
895
00:43:22,320 --> 00:43:23,600
And that was 10 days.
And it's like.
896
00:43:23,600 --> 00:43:27,040
OK, that's that's, that's plenty
well, I think in hindsight.
897
00:43:27,240 --> 00:43:29,520
Well, there's two different
generations of thought here.
898
00:43:29,880 --> 00:43:34,840
With your generation, it's like,
oh, having a plan and like going
899
00:43:34,840 --> 00:43:38,280
somewhere with a plan I go, no,
I really don't have a plan
900
00:43:38,280 --> 00:43:40,200
anywhere I go except if like
this kind.
901
00:43:40,200 --> 00:43:41,760
I kind of did actually.
That's not true.
902
00:43:42,120 --> 00:43:44,800
I had a whole guide.
Yeah, but she messaged me one
903
00:43:44,800 --> 00:43:48,800
day before we left and so but I
already had like 6 or 7 meetings
904
00:43:48,800 --> 00:43:50,760
set up there anyway.
Right, right.
905
00:43:50,760 --> 00:43:52,920
So like we went to the, she did
a lot of stuff planned.
906
00:43:53,400 --> 00:43:56,680
She knocked it.
Out of the park, like the
907
00:43:56,720 --> 00:44:01,920
translator and the driver were
nothing short of a miracle.
908
00:44:01,920 --> 00:44:03,160
Didn't you say they're going to
be dead soon?
909
00:44:03,160 --> 00:44:03,920
Because.
They're so old.
910
00:44:04,360 --> 00:44:07,480
No, Well, he's like. 60
something and then she's like
911
00:44:07,480 --> 00:44:10,000
third forty.
Oh, she's not going to be dead.
912
00:44:10,000 --> 00:44:11,800
Anytime soon?
What's his name?
913
00:44:11,800 --> 00:44:15,480
Big Daddy.
Big man, big.
914
00:44:15,480 --> 00:44:19,120
Man, OK, that's funny.
Yeah, he's celebrity.
915
00:44:19,240 --> 00:44:20,880
I should.
I'll link their SO.
916
00:44:20,880 --> 00:44:22,880
That guy is a celebrity.
The one the pictures he's a
917
00:44:22,880 --> 00:44:24,120
celebrity.
Be well, he'll just.
918
00:44:24,120 --> 00:44:26,040
Go out and we were talking to
nomads.
919
00:44:26,040 --> 00:44:29,080
We stayed with one and then we
stayed in a mining camp and he
920
00:44:29,080 --> 00:44:32,040
they'll just be like, we know
who you are 'cause there.
921
00:44:32,040 --> 00:44:35,080
He live streamed a portion of
the documentary on Facebook
922
00:44:35,080 --> 00:44:36,840
Live.
Cause what it's about, I'll just
923
00:44:36,840 --> 00:44:39,440
explain what it's about.
It's about these horses, they
924
00:44:39,440 --> 00:44:41,320
run back to their birthplace
'cause they remember where
925
00:44:41,320 --> 00:44:45,360
they're born.
And so they run like salmon 3000
926
00:44:45,360 --> 00:44:48,400
kilometers.
And then there's a story about
927
00:44:48,640 --> 00:44:52,000
this horse that went to Vietnam,
is a Mongolian horse,
928
00:44:52,000 --> 00:44:56,560
specifically a Mongolian horse,
and ran back from Vietnam all
929
00:44:56,560 --> 00:44:58,560
the way to Mongolia to where he
was born.
930
00:44:58,560 --> 00:45:02,240
And it was a true story.
And he's been basically
931
00:45:02,240 --> 00:45:05,160
recreating these stories.
And it's, it's turning out to be
932
00:45:05,160 --> 00:45:08,840
true that these horses remember
where they're born, which is
933
00:45:08,840 --> 00:45:14,240
crazy.
And so, yeah, it's, it's
934
00:45:14,240 --> 00:45:16,680
amazing.
It's it's really amazing stuff.
935
00:45:16,680 --> 00:45:19,360
Yeah.
No, it makes you think about.
936
00:45:19,400 --> 00:45:21,400
It makes you think of.
Yeah, well, salmon do that
937
00:45:21,400 --> 00:45:23,320
though.
Well, you know a human.
938
00:45:23,320 --> 00:45:26,520
Goes down the woods, they get
lost, and then they
939
00:45:26,520 --> 00:45:29,240
statistically walk around in
circles.
940
00:45:29,680 --> 00:45:30,280
Yeah.
And then?
941
00:45:30,640 --> 00:45:35,480
We and then we die 'cause we're
stupid, yeah, you know, yeah,
942
00:45:35,640 --> 00:45:37,920
that's what they.
Do yeah, Salmon.
943
00:45:37,920 --> 00:45:40,160
Do do that, yeah, they the.
Same with a lot of fish,
944
00:45:40,160 --> 00:45:42,520
actually.
Birds, I don't know, sense of
945
00:45:42,520 --> 00:45:44,600
direction.
It's really well, that's how the
946
00:45:44,600 --> 00:45:48,040
Bears get.
Fed Oh yeah, because they're.
947
00:45:48,040 --> 00:45:51,320
Swimming upstream, yeah, I mean,
bears living the same. 5 miles
948
00:45:51,320 --> 00:45:56,640
for their whole life, you know,
in the area, but a it is what it
949
00:45:56,640 --> 00:46:00,360
is more like 30 miles. 40 miles.
Or it might be, but then again.
950
00:46:00,360 --> 00:46:02,080
It can't be if that's what it
is.
951
00:46:02,720 --> 00:46:05,880
Well, mant if it's.
If it can't, 'cause then it
952
00:46:05,880 --> 00:46:08,640
chant, right?
Well, that's what it is.
953
00:46:09,280 --> 00:46:11,640
That's what they say it is, but
I don't know.
954
00:46:11,640 --> 00:46:14,400
I mean, I they, they think that
that's that.
955
00:46:14,400 --> 00:46:17,480
But is it really that if it's
kind of close to it?
956
00:46:17,480 --> 00:46:19,160
I don't know.
I think we're coming to the end
957
00:46:19,160 --> 00:46:20,160
here.
I think we are.
958
00:46:20,280 --> 00:46:21,840
So thank you.
Guys for listening as always
959
00:46:21,840 --> 00:46:25,720
recordmyfather.com find us on
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960
00:46:26,160 --> 00:46:28,520
we'll catch you next week with
another episode.
961
00:46:28,520 --> 00:46:32,160
Maybe I kind of like this which
riffin it's just great.
962
00:46:32,240 --> 00:46:33,960
I'll show you and we got a
little bit as.
963
00:46:34,160 --> 00:46:36,280
We go.
We'll show you.
964
00:46:36,520 --> 00:46:38,360
Our Social Security numbers next
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965
00:46:38,720 --> 00:46:41,000
Stay tuned for that.
All right, bye bye, everybody.
966
00:46:41,760 --> 00:46:41,960
Bye bye.