Episode 140: Ethics

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Welcome back to another episode
of Record, My Father.

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Today we're going to be talking
about ethics, business ethics,

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and then I think also moral
ethics because I don't know, we

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were talking about this the
other day.

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They should, I think, intersect,
but go ahead.

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I think they, they definitely
intersect, you're right.

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And there's a depletion, there's
a depletion and there's a wait

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in this country that feels
heavy, I think.

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And I think that it's because
the lack of moral integrity that

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day-to-day life just feels kind
of hard.

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I don't know what it is in any
sort of circumstance that you're

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in.
Because going to different

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countries recently, it seems
like that weight isn't there,

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that the people aren't as hard
or as conniving as they are in

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the US currently.
And it isn't all for me.

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It's it's for us, you know, I
don't know.

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What do you think?
Well, I think that that that one

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of the things I noticed is that
when you when you sit there and

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if if you see somebody that you
support and care about and have

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voted for whatever and that
person does something abhorrent

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to you, that typically in
today's environment, instead of

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accepting responsibility and
dealing with it, you will turn

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and point to what somebody else
did.

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Now, if I had two kids and one
kid threw a rock at another kid

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and hit him and that kid turned
to me and said, well, my older

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brother Zach did it.
I'd smack the shit out of him.

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I mean, I wouldn't that wouldn't
be a good enough excuse.

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But but somehow in today's, you
know, childless environment,

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that seems to be OK if you could
just point to what the other

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guys did because that means that
you're OK and you were like,

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well, actually it doesn't.
You know it means that you're

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both pieces of shit.
I couldn't agree, just one of

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you.
I couldn't agree more.

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Especially with people my age as
well.

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I feel like I'm seeing a more
this is the way I am, I'm this

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way and you just got to accept
it.

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And or everybody else does it.
That's that will never help

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anybody else other than myself,
because why would I, you know?

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Right fuck that that is that's
just so selfish, nasty.

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Whatever it is, I don't care.
I totally disagree with that

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idea that we don't help our
fellow man, fellow woman, fellow

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person.
You know, I just, that to me is

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just it just, and I don't know
why.

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I mean, you know, we were, we
were not helped by many.

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We were helped by some growing
up.

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But as far as like reaching out
and helping others is like a big

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thing.
But we, I mean, we were talking

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about ethics and I was really
excited about this because I

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had, and I think ethics
something that is with you

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throughout your life and you
have choices and there are many

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choices in your life you're
going to have, and some of them

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are going to be huge ethical
questions that are going to come

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to you.
And it's going to be a moral

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path that you're going to have
to take.

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You're going to have to say, I
will do this.

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And this means from now on, I'm
going to go in this direction or

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I'm going to do this and I'm
going to go in this direction.

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You know, because I, I remember
back in the 80s, you know, back

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before anybody that listens to
this podcast was alive that we

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had, we just started our first
business, Global Securities

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information.
And we have one of our key

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customers who was with us and I
would say probably responsible

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for 60% of our revenue.
And he point blank told us that

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since he was financing our
company, even though he was

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doing, we were, we were like,
you're not financing a company,

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we're doing research and you're
paying us for, you're paying a

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going rate for the reverse
because we're the best research

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in the field and we were the
best research.

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And that was the key.
He's like, be that as it's May,

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I think I deserve something in
return and I want to see cash

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and I want to see it weekly.
And he said this to me because

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I'm a pushover.
Everybody asks a question to me.

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They always say, you know, hey,
I want to have sex with your

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sister.
They'll ask me.

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I mean, everything is all these
filthy, hard questions.

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They come to me because I'm the
easy guy.

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I'm the nice guy, right?
So I can go to my partner,

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Richard Harrison.
Great.

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You know, and to this day,
probably hard to find somebody

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with that kind of level of
integrity.

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And I have the same kind of
integrity and I, you know, he's

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helped me, I've helped him,
whatever the case may be.

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But I, I told him the scenario
and I said, I already know what

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I want to do, but if I'm going
to destroy the business, you're,

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you're the other half.
So I got to talk to you because

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that's only fair.
And he's like, it's, there's no

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question.
We, we, he, it's nothing.

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And we didn't, I told him, I
said, now we can't, we can't do

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it.
We're not going to do it.

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OK.
He pulls off his services, our

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revenue drops by half.
It's real tight.

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And this is like end of year 1,
you know, we just started to do

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a little bit of dovetail up.
So we're doing pretty well and

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he kills us for like 2 months,
just nothing, no revenue, no

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things and I saw him I'd see
him, you know, and, and, and no

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other work that they were doing.
And it's it, it's this is a top

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25 law firm in the world that
I'm talking about research

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person had a research.
So not, not something down low.

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He came back.
He came back and started using

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US and there was no words
spoken, nothing came back and

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just started giving us all his
work again because he realized

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that we were the best.
We were the best in the field.

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And people were coming to us
because we were better than

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other services.
They were not coming to us

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because, you know, they could
get craft.

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And that was, that was a very
defining moment because if we

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had done that, if we had started
paying him money for research,

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we would have got caught.
And if we never got caught, we

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would have to do it for other
people because it would have got

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out.
You know, it's kind of like once

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you pay off the mafia, you got
to pay off everybody.

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You, you can't, you can't do it.
It's a line that you cross.

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And once you cross that, you
know, and it's, it's you're,

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you're done, you're done.
And that that's what we felt,

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that it was better to have no
business at all then be under

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the foot or under the thumb of
some, I don't know, piece of

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shit.
But anyway.

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Well I'm confused.
Can you explain this to me real

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quick?
So he's using a subscription

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based service, which is your
service, No?

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Oh, he's not.
Pay as pay as you go.

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Pay as you go.
OK, I need I need I need 310 KS

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and I need their articles and
bylaws and I need it.

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I need it today and I need it
fast.

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But he'd use.
Your service, but he wanted to

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be paid in return for what
research though?

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What was the research?
His law firm was paying our

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bill.
Yeah.

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OK, So he orders three
documents.

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It's $500.
Gotcha.

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It the law firm pays the 500 for
using our service.

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He wants 50 bucks.
Interesting.

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Oh, I see what you're talking
about now.

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OK, I understand.
OK, I understand.

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Now that makes sense.
We.

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Had we had seen this?
Never to that degree.

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I mean, I've had librarians push
me for heavy discounts and stuff

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like that and you know,
whatever, but I don't, I

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consider that part of the
business world.

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I've had a, you know, push for
dinners, which we've, we've done

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extensive, you know, $5000
dinners for five people, you

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know, so we've done some amazing
things for customers, but I

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don't but that, but that didn't,
I don't think that that never

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changed what they did.
And another, I had another

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ethical question came a few
years later.

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We were online at the live Edgar
platform was all online.

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It was being used and we were in
like all the major law firms and

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we had top ten law firm partner
at that top ten law, which is a

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big deal in a law firm if you're
a partner.

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He was a senior partner and he
wrote us a letter and in the

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letter, and he wrote it to me
and he wrote it to Richard.

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He didn't write it to Nick, who
was the 3rd partner with the

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technology guy, but we were, I
was the CEO and Richard was the

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president.
So he wrote us a letter and he

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said that he wanted us to donate
to a particular cause.

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And I won't bring the cause up
and I won't bring the law firm

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up because it would be
incendiary to do that.

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You know, it's sort of like it
doesn't really matter.

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But he was very clear in his
letter that we spend hundreds of

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thousands of dollars with you as
a vendor and we expect and no,

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and I expect you to support my
cause.

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Please let me know how much
you're going to donate and win.

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That's a big control thing.
Yeah, well.

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You know, very odd.
Yeah, that was, that was very

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odd.
Yeah.

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Well, because he's implying
didn't say it, implying that

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they wouldn't use us if we
didn't donate.

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Didn't say it, just implied it.
You know, there are many fenders

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in the field.
We use you to the tune of such

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and such.
Never said we will switch if you

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don't donate.
He didn't, he just had to.

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He implied it all the way
throughout.

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And this is this is not your,
this is not line research guy.

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This is fucking leader in the
firm and this is a firm that

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everybody that's in the legal
community would know the name of

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if I said it.
And the cause is very big too.

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So very scary, you know that.
And, and we sat there, didn't

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answer the first one, then he
sent us another one like within

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within a week.
And then we replied and said the

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the global securities
information does not pick

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charities for anybody.
And we don't do anything to

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anybody.
And individually, we, we decide

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our own charities on our own
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We actually had to write a
letter and send it to him.

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It was so weird.
You know, what was the reaction?

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Nothing.
He just went away.

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Oh, he stopped using the
service.

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No, he didn't.
He never used it.

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He never used it anyway.
He wasn't even in the, he

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wasn't, he wasn't even in the
securities industry.

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He was just, he was just shaking
us down.

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He was a litigator, you know,
and it was like, but you know,

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it is what it is.
He seemed to have the power, but

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we were like, we're not.
And, and how do you, how do you

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address that?
And that's something that that

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I'm going to post when we post
this thing, when I post on

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LinkedIn, I'm going to say I got
2 ethical questions.

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If a, if a, if a person came to
you and said, pay me and I'll

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use your services because they
have a big budget, would you do

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it?
And the second question, and,

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and if you wouldn't and you knew
it was going to hurt your

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business, what would you do?
Listen to the podcast.

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And then the second question is,
is if a senior leader at one of

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the publications that that spent
a lot of money with you ask you

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to donate to his cause, would
you do it?

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Because those two things could
be pivotal.

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And he could have accused us of
many things for not donating.

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He could have vocally said a lot
of that.

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We were.
The thing is, is in your mind,

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when you're a small business and
a big, big named customer comes

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at you, you, you can't.
You can't respond in a hostile

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way.
You have to.

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You have to sit and take it and
try to make it go away and

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disappear as opposed to, you
know, you never whip out the

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double fingers.
Fuck you.

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Because once you just do that,
once you get into a fight,

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you're going to lose.
Don't burn bridges.

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Yeah, you can't.
So so we we, you know, and it's

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it's a very, very both of those
were tricky.

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Both of those in my mind,
morally and ethically were wrong

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for those two to ask that.
Absolutely.

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You know, we made the right
choice.

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We could have been destroyed by
the first one.

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We could have been semi
destroyed by the second one.

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I mean, we've seen these things
play out where where a customer

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gets upset about something and
tells the world, you know, and

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they and they frame it in their
own way because he could have

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framed it in his own way.
And, you know, he's a senior

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partner law firm.
People believe him over us any

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day of the week.
And we knew that that's the

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fear.
So we had to live with that fear

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for a little while, which is
very, very stressful.

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And those are those are my two
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I mean, I have many, many, many
other moral dilemmas, you know,

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You know.
Well, that was kind of

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interesting to just to bring
this up.

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I don't know why I'm thinking
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Was the guy that did Citizen
Kane, what was his name?

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Orson Welles.
Yeah, there we go.

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And he was in an interview and
they were like, do you regret

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anything about your life?
He's like, I regret absolutely

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every decision I've ever made in
my life.

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And I've never heard somebody
say that because 1.

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You have a lot of people that
say they'll lie and say, oh, I I

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well, I don't have any regrets.
I don't have this, that or the

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other.
But then you have a lot of

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people that say, of course I
have some regrets, but they're

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not really that's dying right at
like, my life wouldn't have

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changed that much.
And then you have Orson Welles.

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They regretted absolutely
everything.

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And I think that that's
incredibly interesting.

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And that's sometimes on a basics
basis of ethics, but also on a

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basis of where your decisions
lie and where your interests

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lie.
Yeah.

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But you might, you might just
take that to the next level and

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say that it's not about regret.
It's more like if all the

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decisions I made, I actually
made the other side, then I

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have, my life would have been a
completely different path.

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What would have looked like,
right, 'cause he talked about

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getting into movies and he was
saying I wish that I never did,

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'cause it cost.
It's costly one.

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And then also at the same time,
it's an interest that has

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consumed my life that I lost
relationships over, that I've

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never really fallen in love with
anybody because of this

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interest.
And at the same time, I want, I

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think it was more of a wonder of
what that looks like of.

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What of?
A different life, what it looked

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like, 'cause have you mind you,
Citizen Kane destroyed his life.

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It destroyed his life
completely.

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He became a pretty huge drunk
after.

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Cause the guy that that movie
was about went after him first.

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Horribly.
Yeah, there we go.

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William Randolph 1st.
And when?

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After him?
Strikingly so after.

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That well, that's what they
that's what he was brought

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today.
If you bad mouth Trump, you get

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in trouble and not only from
him, but one of his his

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64,000,000 followers, you know,
you have to move.

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It goes there's a huge backlash.
You know, many years ago, I

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don't think that and the
presidents didn't attack

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individuals.
So there's things like, I mean,

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you know, there, you're like,
that's don't, don't want to

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raise the ire, you know, because
think about every single thing

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you do.
And if there's, there's tons of

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reasons that the government
could look at you.

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There's tons of reasons that
people that don't like you could

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drive by your house and just
throw the trash in your front

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yard.
There's, I mean just.

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I'm worried about the security
state thing.

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I think the on the basis of
ethics for that cause China has

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it now.
It's called the Red List.

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And they have such good facial
recognition software that if you

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jaywalk or if you commit any
sort of like these misdemeanor

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crimes that you can be stripped
from leaving the country.

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I would.
That's a very interesting

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concept if that were to happen
in America, because I thought we

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were against this kind of.
Ordinal Well, they're, they're,

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they're doing that.
They're doing that to a certain

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degree.
And I was just reading an

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article in Atlantic about a guy
that didn't realize a Canadian

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and he wrote an article that was
not favorable to the

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administration.
Crazy.

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And he was coming into LA, He
never say anything about it.

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Had his name wasn't I don't know
if his name was in the byline or

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not, but the but the people stop
him at customs and say, you know

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why we're stopping you, don't
you?

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He's like, what?
You know why we're stopping you?

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Why?
Because you wrote that article.

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Wild, that is.
That's what we're doing in the

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US right now.
We're stopping and, and

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ethically for me, I don't really
care what you wrote about

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anybody.
I may not like you or like you,

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but that should not allow me to
control where you go and how you

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go in my country.
You shouldn't have to love our

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administration just to come to
this country.

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That's just stupid.
We have such an obsession with

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our Constitution as well, and I
don't know, under the 1st

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Amendment.
Only when it's advantageous to

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us.
Oh, I love that that's.

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Great.
We're not, we're not obsessed

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with the Constitution when it's
when it's against what we want.

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Yeah, when the Supreme Court
votes against us, we're like.

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Well, that was the whole Second
Amendment, the whole Second

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Amendment thing that me and you
were talking about the other

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day, that was about.
The well regulated militia.

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There we go.
Yeah, It's the right to bear

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arms in a well regulated
militia.

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It's not the right to bear arms
in each citizen because of the

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Quartering Act, which was what I
was led to believe.

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That is what really I was led to
believe was the Quartering Act

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was enacted, which was to what
make so British soldiers could

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stay in your house as as
colonists.

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And the whole reason you had a
Second Amendment right was to so

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that you could protect yourself
from them.

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But I don't know where I kind of
drew that conclusion from.

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It's interesting, yeah.
Funny, but how's what's that

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have to ethically?
When you look at your life,

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you've you've had apartments,
you've had people, you've had

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things.
What if you had like a a moral

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conundrum come to you?
Not in the business really.

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I I just paying people on time
is something that I've always

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been big on, paying people on
time and paying people properly.

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Personally.
Is something that I've, I've

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been, I've been big on
personally.

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Have I had a moral conundrum?
Not really.

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I can't really think of.
So I'm sure I have, I'm sure,

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but not one to to really think
about right now.

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I guess during when we were
shooting the movie, there was

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something about these people
when we arrived and even with a

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language barrier, it's kind of
funny.

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It's very self-evident that
these people were kind of saying

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in Mongolian that our story is
more important than those people

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over there because they want to
be on camera and and being able

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to visibly see that is
interesting because you

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contacted this person prior to
say we're going to do the

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interview on her.
And then a little do do you know

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that like the whole community
comes out and like, but she's

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this, she's this, that or the
other.

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She's not us.
We're the important people.

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And it's kind of interesting to
read that even with a language

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barrier is is because and when
they were explaining it to us

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Even so you can read in between
the T line on your face, like

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when people are lying to you.
I don't know.

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It's very obvious to me.
Yeah.

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And that is something that we
had to deal with and to kind of

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construct more so reconstruct
the story a little bit while we

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were there or not really even
that just what we're going to

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shoot, you know?
Morals and ethics I think about.

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I got another story Nationwide,
our insurance guy, Matt, Matt

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Stone, really good guy, comes to
our, comes to our office when

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we're growing and we're about 55
people and he goes, well, you

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know, and I just got moved in my
own office.

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I finally got I, we, they moved
us in our own office because

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when I would sit down, we used
to be just an open air place.

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And and I'm a known cusser and I
cuss and I cuss at the sky, and

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I cuss at my computer and I cuss
at my phone.

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And I don't cuss at people, but
if you're sitting, you know, 20

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feet away from me and you're
psychotic, you you might believe

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that I'm talking about you.
And we had people in the room

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that thought I was talking about
them.

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And he said it's better that you
go in another room.

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And also it was really, really
good because it helped us think.

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It helped us jump past just
being researchers.

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It helped us move to the next
level.

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So I credit Eric with that, you
know, But anyway, the The thing

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is, is the agent sitting there
and we're sitting across my desk

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and he goes, oh, because you got
you got to go over 50 people now

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because you know what happens
then?

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And I'm like, what?
He was well, well, people are

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like rabbits, man.
And I'm like, what?

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And he said they're they're
procreating in this office now.

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I'm like, what?
He said, well, they're not

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probably not.
They're probably attempting to

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everywhere.
And he's and he looks at me and

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he goes, do you do you wipe your
desk off in the morning?

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I was like, what?
And he goes, you need to start

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doing that.
I'm like, what?

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And he's like, yeah, they're, he
said this desk is the number one

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place that everybody wants to
procreate on.

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And I was just like, is that a
moral or an ethical thing?

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I don't know.
I.

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Think that that's funny?
That's coming from an insurance

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guy.
Yeah, and that was the insurance

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guy and I was just like, OK, I I
will wipe this down.

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He said it's it's good to know
because you do not want to eat

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your lunch on his desk after
somebody's ass has been on it or

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or never said ass.
He he was like after somebody's

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derriere has been laying here
and there might be something

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left behind that would wouldn't
go well with food, you know, and

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just something to that effect.
And I was just like, Oh my gosh,

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the olden days.
Yeah, we had a we had a lot

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that, that that's more moral
than.

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And I don't know if it's it is
it unethical to have sex on the

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boss's desk?
I don't, I mean.

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I don't even know if that's
really a question of it.

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I guess I.
Guess, I don't know.

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It's, it's just like it's is it
a moral thing?

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I don't, you know, is the thing
of power.

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I can't, you know.
But there were many.

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There were many, many, many
people that came to me afterward

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and said, Oh, yeah, sorry.
Well, I think the world has

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become so fast-paced that it's
hard to have any sort of

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identity that's interlaced and
it's your own because I think

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before, before the Internet, you
didn't have people projecting

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different personalities that you
24/7 or as you go on social

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media now.
And it's like here I am building

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my new tower, Studio 2.
And then you swipe down and then

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say, here I am, I love guns.
And then it's here I am, I'm a

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book reader, here I am, I went
to here, here, here.

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And this is my life as a truck
driver now.

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And it's like all of these
different lifestyles are

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projected at you 24/7 that it's
hard to even identify your own

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anymore of what you're you're
personally interested in and

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what a pursuit of, I don't even
know, hobbies looks like for the

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individual now.
That's very interesting.

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Do you think that it's that you
allow the projection and that

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you can turn it off?
It's an addiction.

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It's become an addiction.
It is an addiction.

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I, I would not argue with that.
I, I would not push away from

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that.
And I see them trying to

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legislate it a little bit and
there's huge push back in the

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industry about, you know,
narrowing any reason or use for

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the phone.
But I mean, it's like it isn't

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you, you know, I look at it too
much and I look at stupid stuff

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way too much.
I go through periods where I

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delete Instagram because it's
just the reels.

447
00:23:54,400 --> 00:23:57,160
The algorithm is too good.
The algorithm it's really good.

448
00:23:57,240 --> 00:23:58,600
It's too, too good.
I can't.

449
00:23:58,600 --> 00:24:00,440
I don't even want to know what
the algorithm is going to look

450
00:24:00,440 --> 00:24:02,200
like for.
Five I go to Facebook and I and

451
00:24:02,200 --> 00:24:05,120
I wheel through the 1st 3 or 4
posts.

452
00:24:05,560 --> 00:24:09,160
Nobody I of course I know.
And then I go to the reels and I

453
00:24:09,160 --> 00:24:12,200
go to like, and I watch the
reels and those reels are just,

454
00:24:12,680 --> 00:24:15,640
they are addicted, the short of
reels, you know, and it's just

455
00:24:15,640 --> 00:24:18,000
like, whoa, whoa, well.
It's cut for the three second.

456
00:24:18,000 --> 00:24:19,880
Yeah, yeah.
They're the, they're the best 30

457
00:24:19,880 --> 00:24:23,360
seconds of every movie I've ever
watched, you know?

458
00:24:23,800 --> 00:24:27,520
It's like, whoa, there was this
comedian that was talking about,

459
00:24:27,520 --> 00:24:30,000
he was on I think David
Letterman or something recently

460
00:24:30,400 --> 00:24:33,560
and he was talking about they're
like, oh, what are you doing?

461
00:24:33,560 --> 00:24:37,640
He's like, well I'm watching The
Godfather in three second

462
00:24:37,640 --> 00:24:42,320
intervals on YouTube Shorts.
Exactly the reels for YouTube

463
00:24:42,360 --> 00:24:42,880
and it's.
Fun.

464
00:24:43,240 --> 00:24:45,360
I've seen it.
I've I've watched, I've watched

465
00:24:45,360 --> 00:24:47,600
pieces of that.
I've watched what's the Denzel

466
00:24:47,600 --> 00:24:51,760
Washington one equalizer
equalizer where he goes through

467
00:24:51,760 --> 00:24:53,680
and kills them all.
I I watch that.

468
00:24:53,680 --> 00:24:57,080
I watch pieces of that probably
100 times.

469
00:24:57,080 --> 00:24:59,600
I love that I would and I've
seen the movies.

470
00:24:59,600 --> 00:25:02,440
I've seen them all, but here I
was watching little set things

471
00:25:02,440 --> 00:25:07,240
there because essentially what
it is is it's hello.

472
00:25:08,120 --> 00:25:10,600
I'm a good person.
This is a bad person.

473
00:25:11,040 --> 00:25:13,400
He's going to suffer and that's
what you see.

474
00:25:13,400 --> 00:25:16,680
And he sucks and that's it.
It's it's very, very quick.

475
00:25:16,680 --> 00:25:19,200
It's hello.
I'm a good person.

476
00:25:19,920 --> 00:25:21,880
I'm getting he.
This guy's done bad things.

477
00:25:22,360 --> 00:25:27,160
Here's his retribution, you
know, very, very, very quick.

478
00:25:27,400 --> 00:25:31,560
And that to me is just, you
know, and it and just over and

479
00:25:31,560 --> 00:25:34,080
over and over formulation.
Yeah.

480
00:25:34,080 --> 00:25:36,320
Or Matt Damon when he goes in
there and he's doing the same

481
00:25:36,320 --> 00:25:41,560
thing with, with his Bourne
movies and he's in there and

482
00:25:41,560 --> 00:25:45,200
it's just, you know, cuz the
funny comedic long thing where

483
00:25:45,200 --> 00:25:47,280
you got to tell a joke doesn't
work.

484
00:25:48,120 --> 00:25:52,000
If you tell a joke quickly that
shoots, then it's then it, you

485
00:25:52,000 --> 00:25:54,280
know, and it hits.
It's stupid, it's silly, but

486
00:25:54,280 --> 00:26:02,360
it's short, you know, you know,
abject racism, you know, sexism.

487
00:26:02,720 --> 00:26:06,200
I mean, some of that sells.
I feel like, you know, for me,

488
00:26:06,200 --> 00:26:07,160
no.
It definitely does.

489
00:26:07,440 --> 00:26:13,080
Morally, the whole sexual and
racial stuff bothers me, but I,

490
00:26:13,120 --> 00:26:15,520
I, I, I can't, I, I would not
watch that.

491
00:26:15,680 --> 00:26:18,800
I remember Meme showed me a
video the other day, there was

492
00:26:18,800 --> 00:26:23,800
this cat on a motorcycle and it
was AI video and it was a

493
00:26:23,800 --> 00:26:26,880
motorcycle with like a house
that was like attached to it or

494
00:26:26,880 --> 00:26:28,360
something.
And it was like a cat house.

495
00:26:28,880 --> 00:26:32,760
And Meme was just watching these
cat motorcycle AI videos for I

496
00:26:32,760 --> 00:26:35,920
think it was like 2530 minutes.
And it's like, it's so

497
00:26:35,920 --> 00:26:37,640
interesting.
I don't know to like for

498
00:26:37,640 --> 00:26:42,000
somebody that grew up washing
painter's pants in lie in the

499
00:26:42,000 --> 00:26:46,840
basement for her husband and to
watch, I don't know, to blame

500
00:26:47,120 --> 00:26:51,920
mahjong on an iPad and watching
AI motorcycle cat house videos.

501
00:26:52,120 --> 00:26:57,080
It's such interesting.
I don't know transfer of

502
00:26:57,080 --> 00:26:59,760
identity.
I guess to say I don't know

503
00:26:59,760 --> 00:27:01,800
transfer of.
Well, they have punched the

504
00:27:01,800 --> 00:27:03,760
monkey now to do.
Have you heard about that?

505
00:27:04,160 --> 00:27:05,920
Yeah.
I have heard, I mean it's

506
00:27:05,920 --> 00:27:11,600
nothing more than a 32nd 12
second video where the monkey

507
00:27:11,600 --> 00:27:15,080
gets bullied, he runs over and
he gets a little fake tuffy doll

508
00:27:15,080 --> 00:27:17,680
and that saves him.
Well, the monkey his he was

509
00:27:17,680 --> 00:27:20,840
abandoned as a child, and that
they gave it to him as like a

510
00:27:20,840 --> 00:27:22,880
mother.
Get over it, a lot of people are

511
00:27:22,880 --> 00:27:25,160
abandoned.
Well, that was the so, so funny

512
00:27:25,160 --> 00:27:28,280
as I saw a meme that was like,
my life is 1000 times worse than

513
00:27:28,280 --> 00:27:30,720
punch the monkeys.
That was a meme that I saw.

514
00:27:30,720 --> 00:27:33,920
I was like, that's so.
Funny, my life is 1000 times,

515
00:27:34,560 --> 00:27:37,360
but there's people going to
Japan now to see Punch the

516
00:27:37,360 --> 00:27:40,080
Monkey and the lines are around
the Really.

517
00:27:40,520 --> 00:27:41,680
Yeah.
And then I asked.

518
00:27:41,680 --> 00:27:43,040
I was.
Last night we were coming home

519
00:27:43,040 --> 00:27:43,440
from.
Dinner.

520
00:27:43,440 --> 00:27:47,520
And I asked, I asked your mom.
I said, hey, should we go see

521
00:27:47,520 --> 00:27:49,480
punch the monkey?
And she goes, I'm not going to

522
00:27:49,480 --> 00:27:52,080
Japan to see a monkey.
And I said, well, we would see

523
00:27:52,080 --> 00:27:53,600
other things.
Well, you would.

524
00:27:53,600 --> 00:27:56,240
Go see the snow monkeys in the
north, which I wish I saw.

525
00:27:56,640 --> 00:27:59,200
I wish I saw those guys because
they're weird looking and

526
00:27:59,200 --> 00:28:00,560
they're really, they're really
weird looking.

527
00:28:00,560 --> 00:28:02,600
Yeah, they look like monks and
it's kind of nice.

528
00:28:03,400 --> 00:28:05,600
But she's very adamantly opposed
to Zeus.

529
00:28:06,720 --> 00:28:11,200
I don't know when the monkey
gets its legs cut off because it

530
00:28:11,200 --> 00:28:13,960
was abandoned or something and
it was a baby and then it needs

531
00:28:13,960 --> 00:28:17,080
to be sanctuary because.
Going to be killed and eaten out

532
00:28:17,080 --> 00:28:17,560
in the.
Wild.

533
00:28:17,560 --> 00:28:20,000
It's either die, live in a cage
for the rest of your life or be

534
00:28:20,000 --> 00:28:22,400
dead.
And so, I mean, some people

535
00:28:22,400 --> 00:28:23,880
would say I'd rather be dead,
not going to lie.

536
00:28:24,320 --> 00:28:28,160
But like when we were at the
Denver Aquarium and there was a

537
00:28:28,160 --> 00:28:31,240
Bengal tiger in the Denver
aquarium, you remember that?

538
00:28:31,680 --> 00:28:34,600
It just looks sad the whole
time.

539
00:28:35,160 --> 00:28:37,720
And I was like, why is there a
tiger in aquarium?

540
00:28:37,720 --> 00:28:40,160
Made no sense.
And I don't know.

541
00:28:40,280 --> 00:28:41,840
That was interesting.
Well, they get hurt.

542
00:28:41,840 --> 00:28:47,520
It's like when we went to the
aquarium at I mean, and that's a

543
00:28:47,520 --> 00:28:51,080
good ethical question.
If you get a bird that is hurt

544
00:28:51,960 --> 00:28:54,640
and if you put them in a cage,
he can live forever.

545
00:28:55,040 --> 00:28:57,640
But if you leave him outside,
the crows are going to kill him

546
00:28:57,640 --> 00:28:59,720
in an hour.
Owl.

547
00:28:59,720 --> 00:29:01,800
You remember the owl when I was?
There we saw the owl in our

548
00:29:01,800 --> 00:29:03,480
backyard.
We saw that and we went and we

549
00:29:03,480 --> 00:29:07,280
picked it up, put in a box, we
took it to the vet and they were

550
00:29:07,280 --> 00:29:09,800
like, it died.
Oh, did it died?

551
00:29:09,880 --> 00:29:11,600
We didn't tell you that.
I just told you that right now,

552
00:29:11,600 --> 00:29:12,960
Yeah.
You told me that it made a full

553
00:29:12,960 --> 00:29:14,160
recovery.
I did.

554
00:29:14,160 --> 00:29:15,080
I lied.
That's.

555
00:29:15,080 --> 00:29:17,080
Crazy.
Actually, that's a crazy.

556
00:29:17,080 --> 00:29:19,960
Thing that was a beautiful owl
and we picked it up, we got it

557
00:29:19,960 --> 00:29:22,840
out of there, but it was a
really, really old owl and it

558
00:29:22,840 --> 00:29:26,520
was just at the end of its life
and it, it wandered out of its

559
00:29:26,520 --> 00:29:30,280
hole and, you know, in the, in
the dirt daylight crows were

560
00:29:31,160 --> 00:29:35,200
hitting it, trying to kill it
and eat it, just like 20 or 30

561
00:29:35,200 --> 00:29:36,760
crows.
And there was a couple of those

562
00:29:37,000 --> 00:29:40,360
Turkey vultures around.
Remember it was crazy 'cause we

563
00:29:40,440 --> 00:29:44,440
heard it straight.
But that's what happens in the

564
00:29:44,440 --> 00:29:48,240
wild, you know, that's sadly,
you know, that's, that's what

565
00:29:48,240 --> 00:29:52,520
they do is they, you know, it
dies 'cause it's old and weak

566
00:29:52,920 --> 00:29:56,000
and they eat it.
Or if it's young and not not

567
00:29:56,000 --> 00:29:58,200
fully developed, they you know,
that's, that's what happens in

568
00:29:58,200 --> 00:30:00,080
the industry and that's what
happens to everything.

569
00:30:00,080 --> 00:30:01,680
You know, you know, that's how
the.

570
00:30:01,680 --> 00:30:04,600
Whole thing now too, is that I
think a lot of people run their

571
00:30:04,600 --> 00:30:07,240
lives based on the animal
Kingdom and they're like, well,

572
00:30:07,240 --> 00:30:11,120
if animals don't provide a
morality or ethics in their own

573
00:30:11,120 --> 00:30:13,920
circumstances, why should I?
I'm an animal.

574
00:30:14,000 --> 00:30:16,400
I'm I'm a an excerpt of a
monkey.

575
00:30:16,800 --> 00:30:18,640
And fuck off, we pay.
Taxes and.

576
00:30:18,640 --> 00:30:20,680
Fuck off.
We take care of your kids.

577
00:30:20,680 --> 00:30:22,840
We take care of health care.
We take care of things.

578
00:30:23,040 --> 00:30:24,840
Stop that.
That's that's silly.

579
00:30:24,840 --> 00:30:26,720
That's absurd.
If you want to be.

580
00:30:26,760 --> 00:30:29,080
Should I care about people?
We're just if you want to be

581
00:30:29,080 --> 00:30:31,440
part of society, you need to
care about other people.

582
00:30:31,440 --> 00:30:33,800
Sorry, that's just it.
I completely agree.

583
00:30:34,240 --> 00:30:36,760
Otherwise, go live in the
mountains and leave.

584
00:30:37,400 --> 00:30:39,600
Don't take any resources because
people say, well, I don't have

585
00:30:39,600 --> 00:30:42,680
any kids.
We ride on the roads and you get

586
00:30:42,680 --> 00:30:45,760
to eat the burgers that they
make and they're getting it and

587
00:30:45,760 --> 00:30:48,720
they got educated by my dime and
your dime.

588
00:30:48,920 --> 00:30:51,680
So they're going to be better
and better for society and make

589
00:30:51,680 --> 00:30:54,200
you payless taxes later because
they're going to make more

590
00:30:54,200 --> 00:30:56,480
money.
So think about it.

591
00:30:56,520 --> 00:31:00,480
And and also it's the right
thing to do.

592
00:31:02,000 --> 00:31:07,160
Leave the world a better place,
and if you can't leave the world

593
00:31:07,160 --> 00:31:09,280
a better place, just the people
around you.

594
00:31:09,480 --> 00:31:12,800
That's the one thing.
It's not that hard to just

595
00:31:13,440 --> 00:31:16,400
stretch out and reach out to the
people around you and show them

596
00:31:16,400 --> 00:31:22,720
that, you know, life is we.
We can have happiness and short

597
00:31:22,720 --> 00:31:23,720
bursts.
We don't.

598
00:31:24,120 --> 00:31:25,800
You know you can't always have
it all the time.

599
00:31:27,320 --> 00:31:29,440
That's what I think Cub Scouts
taught me.

600
00:31:29,840 --> 00:31:31,640
Leave No Trace and things like
that.

601
00:31:33,160 --> 00:31:34,480
Yeah, I thought beating up the
guy.

602
00:31:34,880 --> 00:31:36,760
Well, yeah, don't get caught
sexually.

603
00:31:36,760 --> 00:31:38,400
Or something.
Children, either man, that was

604
00:31:38,400 --> 00:31:41,120
crazy.
You see that come out a couple

605
00:31:41,120 --> 00:31:44,440
years ago.
The huge string of Cub Scouts

606
00:31:44,440 --> 00:31:47,280
that people were, or maybe it
was Boy Scouts, was a Boy Scout.

607
00:31:47,280 --> 00:31:49,160
USA is dissolved because of
that.

608
00:31:49,240 --> 00:31:50,800
Because of the molestation.
Wow.

609
00:31:51,160 --> 00:31:52,600
Yeah, My gosh.
We had.

610
00:31:52,640 --> 00:31:54,680
We had.
Sadly enough though, I I learned

611
00:31:54,680 --> 00:31:57,320
a lot in the Cub Scouts, man.
We had one.

612
00:31:57,320 --> 00:31:59,320
We had one in our midst.
We didn't know it.

613
00:31:59,880 --> 00:32:02,760
And then he just disappeared.
And then I thought he.

614
00:32:02,760 --> 00:32:05,360
Applied and you're like, well
why is the guy applying to work

615
00:32:05,360 --> 00:32:07,080
with children if he has no
children?

616
00:32:07,360 --> 00:32:09,840
That's weird.
There's, there's a lot of guys,

617
00:32:09,840 --> 00:32:12,560
there was a lot of guys in
scouts that are that way,

618
00:32:12,640 --> 00:32:16,120
that's, and then you start to
realize that maybe that's bad.

619
00:32:16,120 --> 00:32:18,440
And, and like when we were in
the scouts, there was a guy that

620
00:32:18,440 --> 00:32:22,160
came around and said he wanted
to take photos and the moms are

621
00:32:22,160 --> 00:32:23,920
like, oh, that'd be great.
We would have CDs.

622
00:32:23,920 --> 00:32:27,080
And when they do this, you're
like, I don't think that's why

623
00:32:27,120 --> 00:32:29,520
we coming here.
Well, you know, what's

624
00:32:29,520 --> 00:32:32,200
interesting too is I heard
about, you know, those I DS I

625
00:32:32,200 --> 00:32:34,880
used to get when I was a kid.
It was the no child or it was

626
00:32:34,880 --> 00:32:38,160
the missing children report or
something as a white card and it

627
00:32:38,160 --> 00:32:40,600
had the kids ID on it.
Apparently that was funded by

628
00:32:40,600 --> 00:32:42,320
Jeffrey Epstein.
Crazy enough.

629
00:32:42,760 --> 00:32:46,280
Yeah, that he was interlinked
with that whole organization

630
00:32:46,280 --> 00:32:47,760
because if you think about it,
it's so.

631
00:32:47,760 --> 00:32:51,040
Then he can have a set of.
National interface with like

632
00:32:51,040 --> 00:32:54,360
every child in America, every
child in the public school was

633
00:32:54,360 --> 00:32:56,680
in that interface.
Isn't that funny?

634
00:32:56,880 --> 00:32:59,160
Crazy.
That's crazy.

635
00:32:59,800 --> 00:33:01,400
Oh my gosh.
Well, you'd want to look at them

636
00:33:01,400 --> 00:33:05,160
in the poorest things in the
poorest area and that's what

637
00:33:05,160 --> 00:33:06,280
they targeted.
Well, that was.

638
00:33:06,280 --> 00:33:10,280
Like when we live right on the
bridge of Maryland and women of

639
00:33:10,280 --> 00:33:14,320
color that were like teenagers
were disappearing on a weekly

640
00:33:14,320 --> 00:33:16,760
basis.
On a weekly basis, they

641
00:33:16,760 --> 00:33:19,160
disappear like that in Maryland
and they're like, oh, they're

642
00:33:19,160 --> 00:33:20,600
all runaways.
So I'm like, you're saying that

643
00:33:20,600 --> 00:33:23,560
there's 500 runaways like every
two months.

644
00:33:23,920 --> 00:33:27,920
That's that's not right.
No, that doesn't make sense.

645
00:33:28,360 --> 00:33:30,360
That's crazy.
That's all lazy.

646
00:33:30,360 --> 00:33:32,120
To this work.
No, exactly.

647
00:33:32,120 --> 00:33:33,400
They've never done anything
anyway.

648
00:33:33,400 --> 00:33:35,080
They show up after the crime has
been committed.

649
00:33:35,320 --> 00:33:39,080
It's a it's a wasteful job.
Oh my gosh, I did myself.

650
00:33:40,160 --> 00:33:47,160
So as far as ethics, as far as
like, I feel that the way that

651
00:33:47,160 --> 00:33:51,680
we perpetuate better ethics and
better morals and better, better

652
00:33:51,680 --> 00:33:57,120
society as a whole is to emulate
them is to show them to others

653
00:33:57,120 --> 00:33:59,400
in public and to do the right
thing.

654
00:33:59,600 --> 00:34:02,680
And I think that we, you know,
over and over and over again.

655
00:34:02,680 --> 00:34:04,880
And, and I guess basically what
I'm saying is I'm going to have

656
00:34:04,880 --> 00:34:07,080
to sign off to Facebook because
I'm really a horrible person

657
00:34:07,080 --> 00:34:08,600
there.
I need to take another social

658
00:34:08,600 --> 00:34:10,760
media break as well.
It's it's exhausting.

659
00:34:11,000 --> 00:34:13,239
It's it's very tiring because
then you feel like you have all

660
00:34:13,239 --> 00:34:15,000
these options in front of you.
You're like, what should I do

661
00:34:15,000 --> 00:34:16,679
with my life?
And then you do nothing, you

662
00:34:16,679 --> 00:34:19,760
know, like, I don't know.
It's really, it really is that.

663
00:34:20,159 --> 00:34:22,719
I'll just smoke another joint
and sit here and think about it.

664
00:34:23,159 --> 00:34:24,960
Yeah, exactly.
No.

665
00:34:24,960 --> 00:34:27,560
It's well, it's also there's a
level.

666
00:34:27,560 --> 00:34:31,199
Of Self importance in American
culture too, I think ever since

667
00:34:31,320 --> 00:34:33,960
my generation, which was the
generation of participation

668
00:34:33,960 --> 00:34:37,040
trophies since and self
importance as well.

669
00:34:37,400 --> 00:34:40,880
And I think that there was a lot
of people that were saying,

670
00:34:40,880 --> 00:34:43,560
well, you should go out and do
this 'cause they vicariously

671
00:34:43,560 --> 00:34:48,480
lived through their children,
but even society more so it was

672
00:34:48,480 --> 00:34:51,480
pushed not only through those
relationships that people had

673
00:34:51,480 --> 00:34:55,040
with their children, but also it
was influenced by sports teams.

674
00:34:55,239 --> 00:34:59,800
It was influenced by adolescent
sports, adolescent clubs.

675
00:34:59,800 --> 00:35:02,480
You should always be the most
important person in the room.

676
00:35:02,760 --> 00:35:04,520
And I think that that's where we
are now.

677
00:35:04,520 --> 00:35:08,440
It's the society is that all of
these self important people grew

678
00:35:08,440 --> 00:35:10,040
up and are now adults.
And they're self important

679
00:35:10,040 --> 00:35:11,840
adults, you know?
Yeah.

680
00:35:12,360 --> 00:35:15,520
Sad and you see it you see it
through the government, you see

681
00:35:15,520 --> 00:35:19,480
it through Congress, you see it
through place after place after

682
00:35:19,480 --> 00:35:22,680
place and it's you know, and we
talk about ethics.

683
00:35:22,680 --> 00:35:26,040
It's like I, I, I see today that
it, it's OK.

684
00:35:26,320 --> 00:35:28,760
There's too many things that are
OK today that wouldn't have been

685
00:35:28,760 --> 00:35:31,640
OK five years ago.
Completely agree.

686
00:35:32,120 --> 00:35:36,520
You know, there's just so many
things that are it just seems to

687
00:35:36,520 --> 00:35:42,280
be openly taking money and doing
things that would would have

688
00:35:42,280 --> 00:35:44,800
been three or four years ago,
five years ago, illegal.

689
00:35:45,360 --> 00:35:48,400
It it's just, it's, it's just
one more thing.

690
00:35:49,040 --> 00:35:51,560
It's, it's, it's there's not
enough time to deal with that.

691
00:35:51,560 --> 00:35:52,680
We got to move on to the next
one.

692
00:35:52,680 --> 00:35:54,280
The next.
One, there's no moral baseline

693
00:35:54,280 --> 00:35:57,880
anywhere, anywhere.
Yeah, it seems weird that you

694
00:35:57,880 --> 00:35:59,280
know, and it's not and and it's
the.

695
00:35:59,280 --> 00:36:01,040
Absolutely.
That's what it is.

696
00:36:01,040 --> 00:36:06,880
Has nothing to do with religion.
OK, not nailing the souls of

697
00:36:06,880 --> 00:36:10,120
Christians on my feet is not
going to make me be a better

698
00:36:10,120 --> 00:36:12,040
person.
It's not going to happen.

699
00:36:13,240 --> 00:36:17,040
I know a lot more people that
are evil to go to church every

700
00:36:17,040 --> 00:36:20,080
Sunday than the people that
abuse drugs every Saturday and

701
00:36:20,080 --> 00:36:21,400
Friday.
One day a week, you know,

702
00:36:22,480 --> 00:36:23,200
religious.
People.

703
00:36:23,200 --> 00:36:26,400
Yeah, yeah, those people are
very nice.

704
00:36:26,400 --> 00:36:27,840
Yeah, Yeah, You don't.
I don't.

705
00:36:27,880 --> 00:36:30,200
You, you don't.
I mean, I'm a firm believer that

706
00:36:30,200 --> 00:36:34,480
you don't need it can help you.
It can give you a moral compass.

707
00:36:34,480 --> 00:36:36,600
It can give you a direction.
It can give you a crutch,

708
00:36:36,600 --> 00:36:38,760
something to lean on to make
your life better.

709
00:36:38,760 --> 00:36:40,480
Absolutely.
But it's not a necessity.

710
00:36:40,960 --> 00:36:42,600
It's not a necessity to be a
good person.

711
00:36:42,600 --> 00:36:44,320
It's not a necessity to make the
right decisions.

712
00:36:44,320 --> 00:36:45,600
It's not.
It's not, it's.

713
00:36:45,600 --> 00:36:49,200
It's an institution that is
really projected.

714
00:36:49,200 --> 00:36:52,560
If you look in these these third
world countries, the US being

715
00:36:52,560 --> 00:36:56,400
one of them now or becoming 1,
you see these people that are

716
00:36:56,400 --> 00:37:01,200
told, oh, don't work on your
life, just pray and life will

717
00:37:01,200 --> 00:37:04,320
change for you.
And why do you think that these

718
00:37:04,320 --> 00:37:07,960
nations have struggled with all
of this rampant missionary work

719
00:37:07,960 --> 00:37:12,880
for so long and they haven't
been able to really advance

720
00:37:12,880 --> 00:37:15,200
forward?
And it's because they were given

721
00:37:15,200 --> 00:37:17,840
the belief that if they prayed
hard enough, the life would

722
00:37:17,840 --> 00:37:21,600
change for them.
And if in the last 100 years,

723
00:37:21,880 --> 00:37:26,560
200 years, it hasn't really
changed that much, the praying

724
00:37:26,560 --> 00:37:29,040
hasn't changed and it hasn't
advanced their society.

725
00:37:29,400 --> 00:37:31,920
So I don't know.
Well, they they've enriched

726
00:37:31,920 --> 00:37:35,520
those that came to subjugate
them.

727
00:37:36,160 --> 00:37:38,360
Exactly.
You know they've done well with

728
00:37:38,360 --> 00:37:41,720
that and subjugate them with
religion and authority.

729
00:37:43,360 --> 00:37:46,000
You know, you look at all these
countries and that's, you know,

730
00:37:46,000 --> 00:37:49,720
religion was the lead lead to
get in to change everybody to

731
00:37:49,720 --> 00:37:53,360
make them non heathens.
And once they became that then

732
00:37:53,360 --> 00:37:56,640
all of a sudden they were good
citizens.

733
00:37:56,640 --> 00:38:00,480
But you know, there's the center
of pedophilia.

734
00:38:00,480 --> 00:38:03,280
You know you're.
Like, wow.

735
00:38:03,880 --> 00:38:07,480
Yeah, and all you got to say is,
oops, I'm sorry.

736
00:38:07,800 --> 00:38:09,160
May I ask forgiveness?
God?

737
00:38:09,840 --> 00:38:13,920
And then no, I, I would my
forgiveness would be a meat

738
00:38:13,920 --> 00:38:17,800
grinder, but and I would have no
problem with throwing somebody

739
00:38:17,800 --> 00:38:21,320
in chipper.
You know, at that point, you

740
00:38:21,320 --> 00:38:24,800
know, as long as you can confirm
that they were the 1, you know,

741
00:38:24,800 --> 00:38:25,960
that's the, that's the.
That's.

742
00:38:26,000 --> 00:38:29,920
The issue you have now, you
know, it seems to be an

743
00:38:29,920 --> 00:38:32,840
overwhelming thing.
No, that's.

744
00:38:32,840 --> 00:38:35,160
We put you in jail for smoking a
joint, but hey.

745
00:38:36,120 --> 00:38:38,320
California three strike program.
That was crazy.

746
00:38:38,320 --> 00:38:42,560
We had that for a while where if
you get caught with any sort of

747
00:38:43,600 --> 00:38:48,040
life, weight of marijuana or any
sort of things, it's life in

748
00:38:48,040 --> 00:38:51,160
prison.
California three strike, my guy.

749
00:38:51,160 --> 00:38:53,440
Yeah, I remember seeing that.
You know, it's funny, as I first

750
00:38:53,440 --> 00:38:55,360
discovered that was an issue
when me and you were watching

751
00:38:55,360 --> 00:38:56,920
Locked Up Raw.
Maybe I should have been

752
00:38:56,920 --> 00:38:59,960
watching it when I was 11/12.
And there's a guy playing guitar

753
00:38:59,960 --> 00:39:01,720
and he's really good at guitar.
He's like, this is the only

754
00:39:01,720 --> 00:39:04,440
thing that I have.
I got caught with one ounce of

755
00:39:04,440 --> 00:39:08,400
marijuana three times in 82.
I think it was 92.

756
00:39:08,400 --> 00:39:09,920
It was like 10 years apart.
It was crazy.

757
00:39:10,400 --> 00:39:13,640
And then like right before 2004,
which is I think when they

758
00:39:13,640 --> 00:39:16,240
overturned it or something, or
maybe it was 2008 when they

759
00:39:16,240 --> 00:39:18,320
overturned it.
And he's like, I have been in

760
00:39:18,320 --> 00:39:21,680
prison for I, I think it was
like 20.

761
00:39:21,680 --> 00:39:22,840
I don't know, something at that
point.

762
00:39:22,840 --> 00:39:27,000
He's like a decade, over a
decade at this point, or 3

763
00:39:27,000 --> 00:39:28,920
ounces of marijuana.
And I'm like, that's crazy.

764
00:39:29,080 --> 00:39:31,680
And the weirdest thing is when
we decriminalized it, we didn't

765
00:39:31,680 --> 00:39:33,920
release those people that had
been arrested for life in

766
00:39:33,920 --> 00:39:35,480
prison.
Why wouldn't you?

767
00:39:35,600 --> 00:39:38,840
I I don't understand that.
Well, it's 'cause they make the

768
00:39:38,840 --> 00:39:40,680
state money, that's what they
do, right?

769
00:39:41,040 --> 00:39:42,800
I I hate that we should talk
more.

770
00:39:42,800 --> 00:39:46,000
We did the prisons once. $1000 a
person, yeah.

771
00:39:46,120 --> 00:39:51,240
It bothers me so much that and
then their labor is free, you

772
00:39:51,240 --> 00:39:54,320
know, in some states.
California's a low pay state

773
00:39:54,320 --> 00:39:57,680
which I think it's like $0.10 an
hour, but it's like why even pay

774
00:39:57,680 --> 00:39:59,320
them at that point?
I don't really understand.

775
00:39:59,320 --> 00:40:00,600
Exactly.
That's silly.

776
00:40:00,880 --> 00:40:05,560
In Louisiana it's $0.02.
So I don't understand what are

777
00:40:05,560 --> 00:40:09,000
you going to save up for what?
Well, I guess commissary if you

778
00:40:09,000 --> 00:40:10,960
think about that.
But I don't even know what

779
00:40:10,960 --> 00:40:13,840
prison commissary is like.
I think it's overtly expensive

780
00:40:13,840 --> 00:40:14,360
if I.
Remember.

781
00:40:14,360 --> 00:40:15,120
Really.
Yeah.

782
00:40:15,240 --> 00:40:17,280
Same with the phone calls.
You have to pay for phone calls

783
00:40:17,280 --> 00:40:19,720
coming in and going out.
Commissary should be illegal as

784
00:40:19,720 --> 00:40:21,520
hell.
I don't understand that.

785
00:40:21,520 --> 00:40:23,880
Yeah, that's crazy.
Makes no sense.

786
00:40:24,200 --> 00:40:25,800
Well, what are we out of here
for?

787
00:40:25,800 --> 00:40:27,720
Time.
Oh, we're at 57.

788
00:40:27,920 --> 00:40:30,880
There we go.
All right, well, thank you guys

789
00:40:30,880 --> 00:40:35,600
for listening as always,
recordmyfather.com and go watch

790
00:40:35,800 --> 00:40:38,360
Facebook, Instagram.
We now have all the socials.

791
00:40:38,360 --> 00:40:39,640
It's crazy.
TikTok.

792
00:40:39,680 --> 00:40:41,720
We have TikTok.
Now go look at the TikTok.

793
00:40:43,640 --> 00:40:45,560
Ethics, man.
Do we have something else?

794
00:40:45,560 --> 00:40:47,360
I don't know, Go go look at this
all platforms.

795
00:40:47,360 --> 00:40:49,320
Now we need more.
We need more ethics.

796
00:40:49,360 --> 00:40:51,800
Very thankful for the social
media team that has been running

797
00:40:51,800 --> 00:40:53,320
our ship.
Thank you guys.

798
00:40:53,760 --> 00:40:55,000
All right, bye.
Bye.

799
00:40:55,400 --> 00:40:55,560
Bye.