Episode 129: Location Services

0:09 Welcome back to another episode of Record My Father. Today we're going to be talking about apps tracking you. What's tracking you? When are you being tracked? Pretty much all the time. From what I understand, every time I go on an app, it says, do you want to allow location services? I say no every time, but then chances are doesn't really work that well, you know? Right, You have a you have a phone, you get up in the morning, you, you, you when you sign into your phone with your code first time, it knows where you are. And from that point forward, it will track where that phone goes. Provide it could be you, it may not be you, but if it's your phone, most likely it's you. And then you'll go and you'll get in your car and then you'll drive somewhere. And if you have one star, which is 1, and I know Tesla does it and a lot of the newer models, they track everything you do. So they're tracking your vehicle, your speed, all the different things that you do.

1:00 And they share that with people if they're required to. Like you never think about this. But if I get in an accident and I'm speeding and you say, no, he's not speeding, you subpoena the the tracking records of the vehicle that you were driving and you can come back, you know, and, and that then you'll see whether or not he was going over the speed limit, which if you're speeding, your fault, right? Allstate tried to do that to me months ago. They were saying, oh, do you want to put that thing in your car? And I said no. I said no, I don't want to do that. We'll give you a discount. No, you won't. No, you, yeah, you'll just hike it up. That's all. That happens every single time with that. I know. It's crazy. But you think about like Facebook, like all the different when you, when you go into Facebook, it's like I've got a, a book of information that Facebook collects about me.

1:48 And I mean all the pictures, all my birthday, all, everybody I connect to, what I say, what is the, who I connect with, how I connect with them, what is my, my, my whole being. LinkedIn has my whole professional career back for 25 years, 30 years, 40 years and everybody else's. And it knows all the people I'm connected with. It knows everything that I speak about and what I talk about and how I put it online. Instagram, if you post on Instagram, they track every single thing. Messenger, which is a, the Facebook Messenger. They, they're really big on that. That's the reason I never put the messenger on my phone.

2:30 Threads. It's interesting when you look at threads, the, the Meta app shares 68% of collected data with third parties. So they're selling all that stuff, Snapchat, TikTok X WhatsApp, you know, when you do the international phone calls now, I don't know what they do. Do they collect your voice? Wouldn't shock me, you know? It's all the AI wouldn't. Shock me. I mean, you know when you're sitting there and you have your phone next to you and we have a conversation and we start talking about baby diapers that all of a sudden if you look on Facebook, you'll see discounts for the baby diapers.

3:12 Isn't that funny? We didn't exercise in high school during history class where we basically said Nike as many times as we could in the course of I think of 5 or 10 minutes, and then everybody in the class had Nike ads on their phone. I think that that was pretty wild. Yeah. And so you weren't, you didn't type it into anything. You didn't do anything. You just had a conversation while you had the phone there. So that's tracking you. Think about maps, where you've been, Google Maps, where you want to go, all that stuff, YouTube, Google itself, every single search you've ever done, you know all the porn sites you've been to, they know and they know for how long. So they know how how viral you are and how often you're viral.

4:00 They do. And I think the weird thing is, is I never thought about this, but PayPal, your financial details, who you pay, your browsing history, your contacts, your device ID, Amazon, you Amazon, all the stuff you do on Amazon, all that stuff you buy, you think about, I go to giant and safe and I just go to Safeway and they had those codes that you put in to get a 5% or 7% off discount, right? That tracks every single thing you buy. So you know, and as a marketer, it's great because you think about it. I can, I know how long between your your buys of toothpaste are. And I know when you're going to buy toothpaste again pretty much because you're going to use at about the same rate.

4:43 So I know when to give you discount coupons for a different brand of toothpaste. And you know what else I know how to do? I know your friends that use that use my toothpaste and I will send them a coupon if they can get one of their friends to use my toothpaste. And that would be you. And see, they triangulate that way. So you think about the way marketing works, and it's like, whoa. So you, you, you know, the whole idea of this free choice is like, whoa, you know, the other day said. Capitalism is an illusion of choices, and I thought that was pretty interesting. It's. It's not a it seems. Like it's becoming more and more of an illusion every day. Yeah, I mean, I, I, I, I now like I'm, I'm a ranter on Facebook and I go to sites and just poke people and stuff like that.

5:30 And I guess you're trolling and, but Facebook in particular, it's always been, you know, my narcissistic release. And you know, you post all the different great things you're doing because you're having a wonderful life and nobody else is having a good life as good as yours. So you post all the pictures on there and you show all the different things that you do and all the different places you go. And then every single one of those they take and then they sell them to other people who then come after you and say, hey, want to go to Spain? Hey, want to go to Portugal? Hey, want to go to Istanbul? Hey, want to go, you know, and of course all of these things that I'm saying right now are I'm staying in proximity of my phone. So I will see advertisements for travel at the end of this, I'm sure. How do you?

6:10 Feel about your information being sold. Do you feel like that you deserve to be paid for that? I, I, I think so. And I think Facebook is going to get at some point where people are going to, I mean, I'm kind of at that point now. I'm and I'm, I'm, you know, my narcissism is, is going back and forth with my, my need to not be so angry at when, when you look at that, it's like they give me things that make me react and I feel like a puppy, you know? It's like they wanted 2016, yeah. You know, but it's, it's, it's, it's really, I think it's really amplified now. I, I used to see and, and say 10 posts, I would see five friends. And in the beginning I would see nine friends. Now I see like 1, maybe 2 friends on and 9 posts, 10 posts.

7:08 So it's really, they've really jacked it up. And all the other 9 posts are things that you know, will trip me off about a, you know, about the political situation, about the economy, the things that they know that bother me. And it's. Funny that you mention that because I took about a a week off of Instagram here and I deleted those apps, Facebook and Instagram off my phone. So I I just have Instagram and Facebook on my computer now, right? Yeah. The reason why I did that was because I was vicariously living through other people. I wasn't living my own life. And I think that that's really frustrating. And then you compare yourself as well to other people and you say, well, they're doing better in their career. Oh, gosh, what am I doing? These things in my life are taking too long. This, that or the other.

7:53 And I can see gosh, on the youth these days. I can't imagine feeling as if I was not as good as my other if I was in middle school or high school. That would be so frustrating because you're already comparing yourself at those ages to other people. But if it's just blanketed in your face all the time, like there was this thing going around a while ago where it's like, why are all these people going on vacation when they're 2524 years old? How could they afford this? It makes no sense. And it's like, well, their parents, I mean, I mean, that's what it is. Their parents are are well off or well to do, and a lot of people forget that, that it's not the the possession of their own lives over their own domain, but The Who, where they're from and who their parents are, right?

8:35 Where they happen to be warm, you know, luck of the draw. Well, that was like the Kylie Jenner self-made first self-made woman billionaire. And I thought that that was rather funny that her whole family had no impression on her life whatsoever. She made her own billion dollars. And I'm like that's and I just don't, well, you. See it? I mean, you're, you're in the industry. You see, you see it out there where when you start to bump into people and you see actors and you start to see that, oh, father was an actor. Like, who is it? Ben Stiller is Stiller and Mirror was parents, so they're heavily into, you know, and then there's cousins and uncles and relatives and, you know, everybody's George.

9:19 Clooney's mother, you know. Yeah, Singer. Singer Yeah. I mean, that's how you get in, is you. It's who you know. 100%. You know they well, that's. Also why people are bankers as well. Or I mean, if I wanted to, if I could have done things differently, I don't know if I would have ever entered law. But I mean, like, you were in the law firm right field and research information field, to be specific, for 40 years. And I mean, it would have been a whole lot easier for me to go into that field, I gotta tell you that much. Yeah. Oh, yeah. A recommendation from somebody that has been doing it for 40 years. And if, well, imagine your dad was in that information or in that field. Tell you what to say when you walk in the door to impress them.

10:01 'Cause you ate lunch with some guy one time and and that's yeah. Or you had a well, there's a relationship. There's back and forth because I've cut up a bunch of people's heads soft, so, you know, and then they and they end up at another, you know, at a firm. And then my kid shows up and they're like, Phil's good. Yeah. I think I'm going to kill this guy, you know, figuratively, Sir, not literally, but you, you, you burn a path in the ground. And it can be a good one or it can be a not a good one. And the people that follow it can they? If they run into all the people that love you, well, that's wonderful. But they're going to run into people that don't love you. That's what I always worry about when I make recommendations, especially to like, what is it?

10:48 The big four, Big 5, If you go to work for Thompson or go to work for Relics or go to work for Kluwer or go to work for Bloomberg, I've had interactions with hundreds of people at each one of those organizations. And by and large, most of them are really good interactions. But there are a few where I disagreed with what people said and I told them and that would leave and they lost. And when they lose, well, long come you and I'm just living my life to get even with Brown. You know, I, I don't know if people do that or not.

11:28 I don't, I don't have, like I wouldn't, I wouldn't go after someone's offspring that that did me wrong. You know, I, I don't, I can't, I can't envision that or, or, or their product was better than me or they got budgeting and I didn't. I wouldn't, but I'm but I'm not putting that past a lot of people because I think a lot of people would, you know, because they would think you say you have the same attributes and you're just going to be a loudmouth shit like me. And they don't want that, you know, so that that can be that that can be, that can be very detrimental. Are we talking about?

12:08 To the, I feel like, I don't know, narcissism is more evocative than ever when this kind of world and what I was talking about in maybe a few episodes ago, the Kali Yuga and the the diminishment of moral ethics and kind of this understanding of humility is just kind of disappearing. Is what the fakery of it all, too? You know when you start to see the fakery, you're like, whoa. Well, if you asked me if I was an old Western man from the 1800s, eighteen 90s, if snake oil sales in the future, in 100 years, 200 years would exist, I would tell you no. I would say that snake oil is going to go away, that it won't ever be a thing anymore because we will be able to figure out those people and that they're selling us lies.

12:56 But but in reality, it's it's become the opposite and it's snake oil is more common than ever, I think in the world. I think that people, maybe it's our economic system and maybe it's that, But at the same time you look at famous communist reigns and these have also time and time again been full of snake oil as well, right, 'cause it's not really authentic communism, it's more of somebody that leads a communistic effort, right? It's not true communism. Right. You point you and it was as long as you point to the people that you can blame for your shortcomings. And that's what a lot of people need because then they don't have to do.

13:38 And, you know, reflection. Yeah, you can. You can sit back and say, oh, I think the reason that I didn't get to where I wanted to be in business or I didn't get to where I wanted to be in life, or I never got to date the woman was because they're all bitches. Those guys are all Snooty Ivy League people. People are just out to get me is and I've heard that a lot. Well, that was your kind of birth of the incel, right? Right. In the 20 tens, I think is when we started hearing that term. And now more than ever, it's like we have a male loneliness epidemic when in reality we have two genders that don't want to understand each other because the propaganda that's put on social media. And I think that at the same time, people look at themselves and their social media profiles in their lives and they say, well, I'm too good for these other people in this world. I'm too, I deserve better.

14:33 And when there's a million and one options compared to the 80s or the 70s when you were really just with your inner circle and who you would see everyday. Now your inner circle has exploded into 1000 X and you these random people that you see on dating sites. And then ever. There's this ready access to 1 for adultery or for otherwise, and I think that it's. And then there's those with completely different motives that come in out of nowhere and they're pods or bots. You know, they talked about the X the other day. It's a week ago or two weeks ago. Where must turn on the location of everybody replying, which I thought like, wow, that would be the coolest thing in the world. If you saw everybody that posted a meme, you wouldn't get their name and the name's fine, but you would pick like, you know, country and province or state just that. And then and it turned out that 60% of the people that were replying to a lot of the things were from Russia and India, you know, so 60% of the followers that are saying what you want to hear or don't want to hear and remember, they're going to get what, what the more people that poke you and make you type another line makes Meta, makes Facebook, makes Instagram, makes YouTube, make somebody money.

15:58 That's, that's it. That's dead. Internet theory and the idea that the Internet is just compiled of a bunch of people that are bots and it's bots talking to one another. And I think that that is extremely accurate and it's actually proven. There's a few of us in there. But a theory it's it's. True, yeah, the majority of the things that are there and it and it's, it's funny when you when I talk to buddy of mine and we, we go into Newsmax every so often and post something derogatory and that that we know will set the people off and it gets me a dozen responses like immediately, you know, troll, you know, you know, they, they just come back with really canned nasty responses and you're just like, oh, you should be dead. I know done so much wrong stuff.

16:51 I should have been dead a long time ago, you know, but it's, it's, it's interesting on how and, and that's what's shaping us right now. It's kind of and, and in a lot of ways. Are we going to get stronger and realize that this is not the way we want the future to be? Do we want the future to be where I can show you a perfect pretty life online when in reality it's not? Or, you know, to 500 people of which I know 8, you know, and that's what I think about LinkedIn. I think I have like 500 followers or 1000 or something like that a bunch. You know, you're supposed to get over 500, so it says 500 plus. And that's what they tell you to do. So you, it looks like you're, you know, one of those. But you start to realize that I don't, you know, I mean, I look through them and I'm like, I don't even know who these people are and how I got connected to them. That's what happened to me when I deleted the apps the other day.

17:47 And I also did it because Denzel Washington said something in an interview the other day and sang after Round Table and he said if I was an actor coming up today, I would ignore social media. I wouldn't interact with it at all. I wouldn't put anything on there but one that's extremely out of touch, right, 'cause the way that you establish yourself as an actor is you meet a director who's willing to put you in things. And really low level kind of networking deals happen on social media all the time. I mean, artists meet other artists and what have you. Even larger companies such as Adidas scout for creative directors, scout for actors, scout for other people on there. But at the same time, what people are missing is that you need a skill in which you can sell to people and which you don't have yet. So what he's kind of saying is develop that skill to a point to which it's actually sellable, which is a great point, a fantastic point.

18:42 But at the same time, you could be the best actor in the world. And if you can't sell your skill, then you're not. Nobody's gonna know you the best actor in the world. That's just what's going to happen. We ever seen anything about the smartest people in the world and usually like 20% of them are homeless. They're they're brilliant guys. The guy that figured out, I think the guy that figured out string theory was 1 and that they had AI saw some it it was a meme and it shows them holding the book there. And maybe this was just a slam on higher education, who knows, to get people to dislike and say that it's not worth it because that's a big, that's a big push. You start to see that how people talk about, yeah, you should be an electrician and you should be a tradesman.

19:25 You don't need to be that, you know, and meanwhile, there's 4 billion people in line to be electrician. So get real, you know, so and and it ain't easy and it ain't easy to get apprenticeship and it's not easy to work at it for five or six or seven years before you get anywhere and where you can make a, a good living, you know. No, yeah, it does take a while to become master. I have a friend that's becoming a master I think this year. Actually, and most construction trades your, your body breaks down long before, you know, you get you, you, you see this? I mean, I saw it in concrete, you know. Well, same thing with brick layers.

20:07 Yeah, brick layers. So Oh my gosh, I couldn't imagine being on my knees laying bricks low bearing walls and things like that. Oh my gosh, That would be a very, very hard work, but very well paid work that is. Huge forearms, man. You get the Berkeley reunion, you get, you get paid a good, good wage to do good work. You work 8 hours a day. You don't work 12:14. You get a break in the in the morning, you get you get a decent lunch and you get a, a wage that you can support a family with, you know, and that's, you know, and I think that he goes to who is it that Bill Burr said that? He said. I think that if, you know, somebody works 40 hours a week, you know, every week they should be able to live indoors and have food, you know, and they should have, they shouldn't have to worry about whether or not if they get hurt, that they would go bankrupt and go out on the street, you know? It's.

21:00 Crazy. It's not. We're tracking, but we're now we're into employment and stuff and it's kind of funny like that, isn't? It it all kind of works together, but I mean at the same time. What I think about too is when you put things in your cart and then you don't buy them, and now algorithms are generated off what people don't and do buy just based on the Internet cart, which is just such an interesting idea. So you don't go around and just put stuff in your cart and leave it for fun. I do all the time. And then you get and then you get all these texts, emails and stuff. I try to bait the website, so I do. I say am I going to buy it? Am I going to do it? Am I going to do it? Yeah, that's what I would say. I get I get a bag of dildos, I get a carton of cigarettes, bottle of liquor, 500 oxy and Star Wars movies.

21:49 Sounds. Like what, what, what, what? And a pillow. A new pillow? Yeah. A new pillow and some luggage. And a luggage. Yeah, you got to get some luggage, man. I went luggage shopping the other day. Do you know how expensive luggage is? It's really expensive stuff it. Depends. Why? Why is it so expensive? You got to go to What's the little Quickie Mart over here? We went to Macy's and Macy's is costly. Yeah, and Macy's is not the most expensive place for luggage. It's really pricey stuff too. It's like a small bag is $150.00 there. What's the the one over here that is. It was next to the party store. The party store, Yeah.

22:31 To me or something. It's something, no, not Toomey Toomey's really. I mean, I have a little bag for them and it's like 480 bucks, but I have, I have had that for 12 years now. I took it every week to New York for 10 years. So and I would roll that bag from 30th up to 5th. I mean from 28th to 30th, 30th all the way up to the top 29th and then go up to 5th Ave. And then and at the end, the last four years I was doing it crosstown. So I was going from 30th and 8th over to 44th and 5th, which was a is a long distance for those that don't know cross streets and and up streets and all that.

23:18 It was, it was a hoof, you know, but hey, and the bag works. The bag just it's, it always zips. It's always open. It zips open. It's easy, It's dented. It's got all these little scratches all over it and it's like a huge green. It was half off because it's so freaking ugly. It's just an ugly bag. My wife's like, why would you get such an ugly bag? And it's like nobody has it. When my bag comes off at the airline, I know it's my bag. I had a black bag I. Had a black bag for about a week and I was like, I don't want a black bag. Everybody's got a black bag. The. Blue suitcase I have now is so common, it's crazy.

24:00 Everybody has like there's a specific design for a suitcase now that has like these ridges on top of it. Everybody has it. It's. Like potato chips, it's. Crazy 'cause this blue one. Ruffles on ridges. Yeah, it's 100%. It's a ruffled chip. You ever have the all dressed the Canadian chip? It's like. Paprika. Salt, pepper, vinegar, all in one one flavor. It's one of the best flavors I've ever had. I. Remember, Japan had fish. Fish just flavored, Yeah, fish flavored potato chips, which were kind of nasty. And I got AI got an interesting what the heck was it? It was another weird one, dragon flavored and all sorts of weird weird flavors. Marilyn does crab chips now.

24:49 In the international market, you can buy and they're from Korea. When you get really weird tasting chips, you know, like sushi flavored chips and it's like, what the Hell's a sushi flavored chip? You know, just just really bizarre, strange stuff. Yeah. So we will see. I hope to get some discount coupons for the international market now and sponsor us. Sponsor us, anybody, sponsor us. Our conversations are that good. Sponsor, sponsor, sponsor, sponsor. That means I'll get a lot of emails with sponsor on. I get a whole lot more of those. Got a ton of them. You know, I notice that my, my inbox is just tons of that. And then everything is that comes in and says following and I never, I never checked it or it says follow, follow, follow, you know, in the upper. Yeah, I was wondering because I was like, who are these people? And it says follow and it's like some, you know, you know, Bilbo Baggins follow and then he says something that either you love or you hate one of the other.

25:52 It's never, it's never like have a nice day or take it easy, dude. It's not that. It's always some you know, political rant or economic rant or foreigner rant, you know, something or higher education rant or stupid people rant or gun rant or you know, you can just the topics are all there. There's there's 3040 topics that immediately drive people crazy. I think the most ridiculous thing is LinkedIn influencer. You got LinkedIn influencers now and you got short form content, IE reels on LinkedIn.

26:33 And I'm like, when did we make LinkedIn such a cesspool of just it's Facebook and everybody's like, oh, I've my father killed himself 60 years ago today and that taught me to be a great CEO And I'm like, this is keep your private life out of your professional. Oh, I miss that. I miss being able to separate. Have any source? Public from private. Between your own identity and then your own identity, 'cause I firmly believe that that should still exist. Well, I, I love the ones where they post something very personal and they say that, you know, what is it that you really need to focus on your private time and your private life and you're thinking like, and you're doing this in a business format, so you're not doing what you say we should do. I always look at people that are on there too, and they're trying to write something really profound. But it was clearly just a prompt on ChatGPT. All of those posts with the kind of, what is it? Not the, oh geez, the bullet point, but it's the dash. And it's like if I was gonna do top three things in my life #1 And it's all clearly ChatGPT format, 'cause you see the hyphenated things between the words that aren't really hyphenated, but ChatGPT throws in these hyphens. And yeah, I'm like, how lazy do you have to be? Made-up stuff Well, because it it's, it's, it's a lot of really cool ideas that are put together that sound really good until you start to go through them and

28:05 say, no, this is not true. No, this is, you know, that's where they come down to what is it the ghosting or where is it ghosting? Is that what they call it when we saw when they make references to things that aren't there? Oh, I'm not sure. Yeah, I forgot what that's called. I always love these people too. They're like how to break into the industry? What I would do is I would do this really renowned thing called making my own project with a small group of people. It's not, it doesn't have to be a lot of money. It just, you know, you just need to write something and you need to make it with your friends. I'm like, this is not a new idea. This is not a new idea.

28:45 Stop pretending like you are this guru that has just figured it all out 'cause you're not and you're a snake oil salesman. I hate those people so much. I really, really do 'cause they're just full of it. They're just so full of it. Yeah. Yeah. Well, I think that they're they're looking for things that are. What do you call it? I think it's generalizers career advisor. Hallucinations, that's what. It's not ghosting, it's hallucinations. Interesting. They, they, they. Their tendency to generate convincing but false information, that's the problem. You got a lot of that where it sounds really, really good. And I mean, I, it's funny, I was in a product meeting actually this year and we went through that and they were talking about these things that they were considering.

29:36 And I was listening and I was just like, did you do any research on the market? Well, look, it shows the markets this and this and this. And I'm like, that's not right. What do you mean? And then I proceeded to point out some things to them. And then they and then they realized that it was wrong, You know, you know, I mean, those are the, those are the over and over and over. Yeah, I mean, lawyers are doing that too. They're they're they're having responses to suits that are coming against them and they're throw it all into to ChatGPT or perplexity or, you know, whatever AI thing. And then they get a response and then they don't check it and they send it and they don't use their own legal intelligence to realize that what they're saying is horseshit.

30:18 You know Orson. Welles did a kind of this little one page essay on how to be a great writer and it's broken up into I think 10 bullet points. And the majority of the bullet points kind of summarize the idea that just tell it like it is, be straightforward. And I think nowadays convolution is so, so rampant. Or you're trying to sound smart, but if you just got to the point to begin with, you'd be a whole lot smarter than using, I don't know, elongated phrases to say nothing. It's. It's really, really frustrating. They will come out with a good interesting idea and you'll say, wow, plane to Mars, That's cool.

31:03 And then and then, but then all of their supporting points are you see 400 points that prove that this is the greatest thing since sliced bread #741 says blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. And you're like, that's not true #421 that says blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. But that's not true. And then you start to realize that, you know, once you start to look into it and you got a lot of supporting points that that you would, should do something that, and these are the points that support it. And the points are wrong. And once and and and it should be that if you got one, if you get once you get the two points wrong, you should say throw the shit away, do it over.

31:43 If you, if you're, if you come to me and you say, Hey, I think we can, I think we can start this company, we can do this. And I say, OK, So what makes you say that? It's like, well, because I can pull a rabbit out of a hat, OK, that's number point #1 #2 I can, I can drive my car with no gas. And then I say, OK, show me you can pull a rabbit out of hat and you're like, well, I don't know. You're like, OK, you can't do that. OK, I can drive my car without gas. OK, prove that I, I can't. OK, So no, your idea is not good. Or it may be good, but you, you don't know how to support it, so I don't want you to do it. You know, something like that. It's like it's so it's interesting.

32:25 Meanwhile, you're being really is. Everything you do is being tracked at all. Times. And it's and it, and here's the thing, and this is the thing I see a lot of there's so many falsehoods coming out, right? That are all these chat bots, all of this information. And now remember that all of the the large language, the LLMS, large language models that Perplexity, Chatchi, BT, AI, whatever, whatever model they use, they're using the Internet and they're using all of that false information and they're not. Or even generated bias too. Well, right, so, so if if if you say you want to say that it's a 60% chance that the commanders are going to beat the Cowboys, which is really false.

33:17 They're they're they're going to get slaughtered, right. But what you do is you post 10, you send out a bot and you can buy these. Now I saw these, 'cause I was thinking about us getting something to, you know, an influencer that would influence people to come to our podcast. Very good idea. And you can pay a fee and they will have 3000 bots that you can rent per month and each one will post on 10 different sites. OK. Think. About think about that number, you know? Exactly. 3000 * 10 per month.

33:58 And if you and if you wanted to pay more, you can get 50, you can get 100. Well, if you think about it too, Joe. Rogan and Theo Von have all of these weird YouTube channels. They just come up and it's like Pod highlight 123 or like highlights for podcasts 201 and like there's so many of those. Same with Instagram that there's a long time when you all I saw on my explore page was Theo Von Highlights, which was very, very interesting. They push it. They push it and they they know how to they, they pay the right marketing engine to put their information out there. And that's the problem 'cause we were in hopes. That you will get pulled pulled in to actually listen to the thing.

34:39 I have never listened to a whole Joe Rogan thing. I have seen, I would say no less than 10,000 of his shorts easily, easily. Same thing with Theo Von. I've probably seen probably a couple thousand of his. But also, let's go the other way. Denzel Washington, you pointed out earlier, I probably seen 3000 of his. Even though he says nothing about social media. He is all over social media. I mean his image, his his words, his little shorts from movies they are. Everywhere. And they came. Out to be a wonderful guy. But you know what he does too? That he forgets he might have a personal kind of thing with social media.

35:23 Course he does. His agent doesn't. His manager doesn't the. People that they know, they know his. Marketing team doesn't. Their money is based upon what he makes right? So the better they drive his name out into the and the more parts that he gets and the more options he gets, the more they make, the better the image. Precisely. If they can sell his image, just his image or his older image, and they can sell that after he's gone. Think about what, what kind of that's a, that's a, a Commission in perpetuity for a dead person, I mean. Wow, a lot of celebrities make more money after they're dead too, which is really interesting.

36:06 Well, it doesn't really do them any good at that point. I guess so. We should kill ourselves, is what I'm saying. We got to kill ourselves. Tomorrow we can. Try. And then we'll get really, really big. That's what it's. Yeah, but the there's a downside to that. What? What is a downside? You'll be dead. Oh yeah, yeah, you. Don't want to be dead. Nobody wants to be dead. Well, some people want to be dead. That's a sad thing. Suicide's pretty high, yeah, we don't need to talk about that, but. Yeah, well. When you think about the way social medias in the, in the, in the way that like I think about high school, like if I did something wrong, I mean, I remember I got in altercations or things with, with two or three people and all of a sudden six or eight people knew it and it was horrible.

36:51 I can't imagine if 3700 people knew that size of this whole school 'cause everybody would know. And there's a video of you getting beat up or something and it was. Yeah, or me saying something stupid, you know, which happens every day, every second. Yeah. And if you don't like edit, you don't hear the first 3 words and the last three words. It sounds worse. OK, we do that all the time. I think. I think it would be, I'd be hard pressed to find anybody that does anything, doesn't do anything stupid. And that's why when you see people on they, they say something. Who was it? Kevin Hart, when he said that and he got kicked off of the Academy Awards because he said something about gay people saying I wouldn't, I think.

37:39 He should. I remember I, I do. Remember that I wouldn't want my kid to be a faggot or something. Something silly, silly, bad, wrong that he said 10 years ago and he apologized and it was gone. And then all of a sudden here he is to be, you know, the MC and it comes up again and they're like, apologize again. And it's like, why? I already did and it was already gone. Why do you, you know, I did this 10 years ago and they're like, no, you have to grab more. And you're thinking like, Nah. And that's what he did. He had the balls to walk away, which was kind of cool, but you know. Williams said something something really interesting about him, specifically Kevin Hart, and he said do you remember anytime before 2000?

38:25 I don't know, 11 Do you ever hear of Kevin Hart? You ever see a? Stand he was chosen when you listen to Katt Williams, he talks about all the people that get chosen and they said then they put him in a dress. Black people in a dress got to put you in a dress. They wanted to, they wanted to disintegrate you. And he said every big black actor that you can talk about has been in a dress at one time or another. Like really? And it's like, you just go through and you're like, Oh my God, I. Could think of it, yeah. Yeah, Oh, my God, they did that. Oh my God, they did that, you know, And he said, it's these, these the, the muckety mucks at the stadium at the audience. And you listen to him and you're like, whoa, he's, he's not wrong. Of course that happens for a lot of people. I mean, white people do it too.

39:06 They, they are all in dresses. I don't know if they all have to be in a dress, you know, and many of them push back and say I'm not going to be in a dress, you know, and then, and then you're tough to work with. But I I guess that's. Well, that's the thing that the producer says jump, and then the actor says how high? Yeah, that's that's really what it is. Yeah, that's it. Is the. Director is the producer or the director? Director says it. Producer and then director. Executive producer first, right? Yeah. And then director. He has a silly idea. But even the director's kind of controlled, unless it's some kind of James Cameron where he owns his own kind of studio and everything like that, like George Lucas did, but. They own soup nuts, Yeah. Yeah, if it's not them that it's the the EP or other people, yeah. Yeah, Opms, other people's money, You know about money. Yeah, it's good, but it's expensive. I mean, that's always the problem with venture capital when you think about it, you're giving away, you give away a big chunk and but they take a big chunk of risks. So that's part of it.

40:10 What? One out of 10? One out of 12. Oh well. Or home runs. Was it really bad home run? One of the walls are pretty still pretty high, Yeah, but I mean for the capital. I mean you put you put $1,000,000 in 11 companies and they all lose it. Yeah. And they go belly up or they drag knuckle or whatever they do, you know, maybe a few of them break even. And then one gives you $80 million back. You're like, oh, not bad, you know? And that's the OR you have an Uber. You have an Uber that makes billions. Right. That gives you 800. Big difference, you know. You destroy the cab economy and people in foreign countries as well, and they'll have to fight for their right to eat and drink water and. Then the leader dude is just just a horrible, it seems like a horrible person for what they the Travis Kappanak or whatever, Not the football player guy.

41:05 The guy that was the head of Uber would say misogynist, real. You know, I didn't know that. Yeah. Yeah, very. He got in all sorts of trouble for saying things, doing things, and they ousted him and kicked him out. But it's really hard to kick Aceo out. Who doesn't want to go when he owns 20% of the company? Yeah, we were a guy. Yeah, yeah, he was. So now he's coming back. They're giving him money again. They gave him 300 million this time around. Didn't you see what happened last time with SoftBank? Like I don't understand how you. He got out of that, they got out of that and and that was the dirtiest and most scummy thing I I can imagine.

41:46 It reminded me of the Facebook thing. But that was Jared Leto's best performance in the last five years, 5 or 6 years. Jared Leto was amazing in that and and Hathaway. That casting was phenomenal. But you look at that and you watch that and you see how he all those people were working incredible hours and getting bare minimum wage. 8090 hours a week, yeah. And they're that they were going to options and the options are going to be worth a ton of money. So he runs it till it gets to be billions. Then he breaks the bank by risking going into foreign countries and opening up, you know, all this silly stuff where he wants to have, you know, we stink and we wash and we and all these other well. Who's buying these 20 year land leases on rental properties? It was like, it's the fastest growing company of all time and like but but not when you're not making any money. But money goes down.

42:40 Yeah, exactly. And then when he lost it and they were forced and they forced him out, they're forced into bankruptcy, right. So SoftBank cuts a deal with him because he has voting. He has some voting control and they end up paying him hundreds of millions of dollars and they and the settlement to buy the company out is he gets like 500 million or something like that and they get a bunch of money. They don't get even they're they only lost like half of their money or something like that. But you know who gets nothing? Employees, right? They, they, they. Stiffed all the employees that worked all those years for nothing and I'm just like. And you know, I never didn't even get paychecks either. They got paid in stock only, right? And.

43:30 You had to work a side job just so you could survive working at this. Point. I'm sure people ended up homeless because of that, yeah. Because they weren't New York. And it's like. You see it a lot, a lot, a lot where fast growing companies do this. Employees are become automatons and you know, and they get used and then they throw them aside. You see it over and over. I mean, I've seen it so much in so many different places that you know, it's, it's, it's buyer beware, you know, or worker beware. You can't. That's why unions are good. You know, you, you try to make sure. And, and because not everybody is or when it comes down to money, most people believe that a dollar for them is better than a dollar for you. Or or.

44:22 They might give you something, but they're only going to give you a little bit. There's always the thing where it's like, well, they don't know how to spend that money, you know, and they wouldn't. Yeah. They don't know. They don't know what they would do with that. They don't know you give them. $1000 they're they're set for life. And you're like, are you stupid? You know, it just, it's, it's, it's, it's sort of, I mean, you saw the whole Zuckerberg did it with the buddy that actually his best buddy in college put him up, put up money for it and he sold them out. I mean, he, he cut it, he, he watered down his options and he end up getting sued and he had to pay the guy $3 billion. But you know what, that was a drop in the bucket. And they're now, you know, it is what it is, but it was the dirtiest deal you'd ever seen. He just, he just, he screwed him. He screwed the Winklevoss's, the Weworks guy screwed all the employees.

45:12 And then those people are still there and they're they're top and they're pinnacles. And it's like Jobs. Steve Jobs did it to the number four guy when they went public. It was. Yeah, it was kicked in at there was him was and maybe it was the number three guy. There was a couple others that yeah, it was. Three or four and all the guys after that didn't get any stock. He wouldn't give them anything. And they're like, why the hell? Why wouldn't you share? You're worth, you know, hundreds of millions of dollars. It's no, you didn't sign an agreement. You know, I don't know what I don't know what the reasoning was, but I mean, I, I was like God, you know, that's just that's. I remember this guy was going into acquisition with Steve Jobs for an app. I can't remember which app it was, but Steve Jobs was like, yeah, we'll give you 200 million. He's like, but the deal says it's 5:50, so it's 550 million. And and then Steve Jobs turns around. I was like, well, what if I just banned your app from the App Store and pay you nothing?

46:05 What about that? All right, I'll take 250. I'll I'll take 250. I will. Take, I'll take a half. I'll take a half to please. Don't that's the monopoly yeah, that's see that's what everybody wants they want to be able to take my ball and go home. Then I have complete control and complete control halves I have I can make unlimited money. You know, that's like when you see the, the, you know, the people change the, they change the rules of the game. And we keep thinking like capitalism's a level playing field when it's not. That's the. The illusion of choices. Yeah, the illusion of choices. If you have a lot of money, you, you, you have a, you have a much better field. Well, it's much better. For you, that was what a lot of people were saying for a long time where they're like, oh, I love a 24 movies. They're so different and they're so personally curated around a hyper niche where it's like you have these 4 quadrant demographic movies that satisfy everybody and it's like, well, a 24 is owned by Disney.

46:57 So it's not really, it's just a different mask that they're throwing up. Same with Searchlight Pictures, owned by who is it, Warner Brothers? I mean, it's a smaller production company to give the illusion that it is this kind of ornate ND type. ND there we go. ND type movie, man, we're really laid back here. You know, we got to get away from the bad name. I mean, that's, you know, and I'm sure Targets going to start open up different stores if their numbers keep getting hit for being wishy washy. I mean, they're all they're all they all do it. They just, yeah, you know, you got to figure out a way to make money. You know what I learned the other day? Target has like a year long return policy. You can return it without a receipt for over a year. It's crazy.

47:43 Some somebody that I work with was talking about working retail at Target, you know, yeah, people would come in all the time. You had a used furniture like a bed frame for a whole year and then returned it. Wow. So and then I was, I was joking with him. I was like, wow, I can't imagine just going fully furnishing my apartment, then returning everything when I move out at the end of the year. Yeah, like 'cause it's kind of just like it's. What they would do, it's just, I mean, people will do it. Furniture on leaves. I wouldn't do it. Even though I know and it's like, I, I mean, I remember I bought AI bought a pair of boots. I had a pair of boots from REI and I, I trained from O5 and I climbed Kilimanjaro with him. I did the Inca trail with him.

48:28 I did Fitzroy and Torres Delpine. So and year five, I think I probably had thousands of miles on the boots. The bottom was ripping. So I go back in, I said I got a new, new pair of boots, hiking boots. And the guy looks at them and I have them in the back and I show them to him and he goes, oh, we'll just replace them. What I'm like, no, I, I can't do that. He's what do you mean? They're, you know, they're, it's free. They're defective. And I'm like, no, they were not defective, not in any way, you know, and he's like, no, no, we'll replace them. I'm like, no, I, I want to buy a new pair. I don't feel, I feel like that's stealing, you know, is weird, but it was weird.

49:09 And they were really nice and, and yeah, and I was like, and he would, they would replace anything that that it was messed up or whatever. I mean, I had my arc Terex. I love them, but you pay nuts. I mean, the arc Terex rain jacket was 550 bucks and I wore that thing. I wore that thing up that mountain up all every single one of those trips I had. And the zipper never failed. None of the zippers failed. Nothing like that. It had just, it was perfect, perfect shell just never had a better jacket. It was that light blue, you know, so you can see it from 10 million miles away. Well, Yub Yub decides to eat the you have these things that tie down and tie the headpiece down to you.

49:55 You have the drawstrings. She eats those off and then chews off part of the the corner. And so I call, I send them a message and they're like, well, you can return it and, and it's take pictures and we'll see if we can repair it. And I take pictures and they go, well, we can't repair that. You know, it's, it's, it's eaten. You know, I said, yeah, yeah, I didn't expect so. And they said, but if you return it, we'll give you a second. I'm like what? They said you can return it. You'll get a second. And I'm like a second. Does that mean you go poop on it? And you know, no, it's, it means they gave me a, a blood red one, which I've had now for 10 years.

50:37 You know, I remember that and I didn't feel bad about that. I don't know why. I think I I didn't feel bad because I paid so much the first time. They honor the the return policy. Yeah, they really do. More so than any other brand I've ever seen other than like, steel chainsaws. Steel chainsaws also really honors. They're like, you can send a chainsaw chain in you bought 10 years ago and they'll sharpen it and they'll redo it. Yeah. Yeah, I love my steel. Yeah. They're a really small company too, funny enough. But they're good. They're really, really good. Very. Small manufacturing facility. In the in the olden days, for one summer on the one day off I had when I was working concrete, I quit doing me in a gardener. I started cutting wood.

51:20 We bought some Poulan Poulan chainsaws, the 18 inch bars and we went out and we, we had a, we knew a lot of builders and they were taking trees down and we would cut the trees down and we would borrow Reed Foundations truck. And they had a flatbed that we could use. And we cut down a bunch of wood, throw it on the back of the truck, take it to his yard and dump it and then sell it by the cord. Right. Well, Oolan was just this amazing chainsaw and then they got a Home Depot contract and Home Depot was like, we need 5 billion Mulans each week because that's what we sell. And now they're, they just the, the, the quality's gone to shit.

52:02 And I think that's the, that's the problem when they go into the mass production, they can, they can definitely keep the, some parts of it are good, but for the most part the quality drops. It's kind of like tracking, you know, that's what I often wonder about the tracking and stuff like that. We go back. I'm, I'm trying to get, I'm trying to circle back around to that, you know, and I think about one of the things I think about is DNA where they, where people do this 33 and me and stuff and how 20. Three and me. 23andMe now that's been sold and that data is now owned by other people. And the problem is, is that I was reading about what those are that those are called a quick DNA and a quick DNA is is is not an accurate DNA. It's a pretty good DNA, but it's not a really highly accurate DNA.

52:52 So when you start to pull one of those down and find out that, hey, I murdered somebody over on 7th St. Well, maybe not because it's so inaccurate to the quality of the DNA that comes up. And so it it, it, it kind of adds to me. It adds to me when I think about all the tracking and all the information that's out there on you. That is it now. I mean, you're certainly your DNA is out there, you know, all these markers that if you've done that or if you've ever done anything, any blood tests or we'll think about what's happening at the airports now, all those things clear where they do an eye thing. You know, your eyes, your eyes have been scanned, your face has been scanned, all that stuff.

53:36 You don't think that's not in the public? No, it definitely is. Yeah, and that idea that they ever remove records that you? No, they don't. No, you know, it's all that that that information is readily available and it basically what it is. If you want to target somebody, you want to sell them or you want them to think a particular way. And you and I would believe that we have free thought and that people can't manipulate us. But if you keep showing me something that over and over and over and over and over, it's not too good to be true. But it sounds like it couldn't be true. But if I see it enough, I'm going to try it only because I've been marketed to.

54:21 If I see it and I see it in all the different places and then you offer, you come in and offer me a coupon for it, I'm like, oh, OK. Well, Zach says it's OK, but then they market to you. And I don't know that. And then they mark it to my wife and then they mark it to my sister. And then they mark it to my brother and they mark it to, you know, my dad, mother. And then they mark it to all these different people. She probably doesn't do do anything with the information they give her. You think? No. Probably not. Probably not. Yeah. Well, I think the interesting thing is we, we kind of covered how to, we haven't said anything about preventing apps to track you. You know, you can have settings and if you go to your iPhone users, you open your settings there, There's a thing in there you can toggle off allow apps to request a track and that will prevent them from me even asking review the apps that you're looking at.

55:14 Do the same thing with Android. Uninstall unused apps to reduce risk. Prefer secure browsers, Firefox, Duck Go, Brave, Add privacy. Duck go. Yeah, I think it's going to become the future of. Add privacy tools like Ghostery or U block Origin for more web privacy. Reset your device's Idi mean you think every time you go log on to to your every time you go into your your iPhone, you're pumping in that number and then that number is used to get into your Google Chrome. So those two are linked. You know a near unnecessary permissions is the biggest thing.

55:56 I don't when you see every single time you go to a new website now, it's like accept cookies, don't accept you don't have to. No, you don't, and I've learned them recently. Yeah, 'cause I often thought, well, I can't if you would. I can't access it, yeah. But that's not true. You just say no and and they're real weird because they will. The really sketchy ones will say accept all or manage and manage. You have to go in and click all the ones you don't want. You're like, but if you go to the bottom of the page, it's unclick all and you're like, Oh my gosh, we're going to sell it to your old girlfriend. We're we're going to, we're going to sell it to your neighbors. We're going to, we're going to, we're going to give it to them at a discount, you know, and, and to the banker and to the, your future employer and all this other stuff like that. It is kind of interesting how how much is out there and how much you get tracked.

56:51 I think that people are foolish to think that they don't get tracked because I hear a number of people say, well, I don't get tracked. I'm like, you got a bank account, don't you? Exactly. Well, all of your financial transactions are done to buy things and sell things. Those things are tracked. You know, unless you buy money cards or whatever, those cash things, money orders and send those in to pay your monthly bills, your online monthly usage. I mean my power usage, you know how much power I use? You know how much, how much electricity, how much gas, how much, all that stuff. You know I'm a light bill.

57:33 You know, you can look up and see what I paid for my house. You would know if you look, you can look back to 1998 and know that I bought the house that I live in right now for 645,000. You want to look it up, go look it up. It's on the Fairfax County record. It's right there and it'll tell you what it's sold for. It's sold for in 1972 before that for 72,000. So you can go and look, it's funny how that is, that you can go track all these different things. And that's just that you want to look at my criminal record. You want to see you go to local courts. You can look online for all the different courts. Well, if you go to if you have a product like the company needs to work for Lexus, they allow you to pick all the courts in the country. So if I move say 3 or 4 times to hide my criminal activity, which I'm not going to tell anybody where I've moved from, they can you can look at all the courts and see did he ever. And then you got to worry because Phil Brown. The cool thing about me is my name is common. So you know, if it, if it was like Salvor Salazar Ala wishes perplexity, Ala stupid.

58:41 There's only one of them. That dude stands out. But Phil Brown, there's, there's like, I think there's 29 in Fairfax County. Same thing with me. That's why I'm not worried. There's more of me than there are even Philip Brown, I think. Well, there's 11. There's 11. Philip L Browns. And. I'm a Philip L Brown, so I mean, really, it's crazy. I don't know what the middle names are, but that was the thing. I was like, Oh my God, there's 29 Phil Browns in in Fairfax County, and it's. Like. I got relatives I didn't even know so I'm going to start tracking them. Well, on that note, I think we're at time here, right? Yeah, we're going to track our relatives. We're going to go track our relatives. Thank you guys for listening as always. Easy Look at the website.

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