Episode 128: Roomates

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Welcome back to another episode
of Record, My Father.

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Today we're going to be talking
about roommates.

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I've had pretty terrible luck
with roommates my whole life,

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except for recently.
In the past two years I've been

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living with two gentlemen and
it's been going well, it's been

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going really.
It's pretty easy.

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It's probably the easiest living
situation I've ever lived in,

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whereas prior I've had a little
never do the Ren roommates

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assignment.
I think that's crazy.

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There's things called bungalow.
There's something called

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Bungalow in LA, which is an
application for random roommate

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assignments with complete
strangers that aren't even in

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the universities, which I think
is even.

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That's like playing a Russian
roulette with all the bullets

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and the gun.
I just don't think that that's a

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good idea.
What do you think?

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I did it it's it was good and
bad.

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You did random roommate.
Yeah, but I think, I think what

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I when I look at my roommates, I
look back to my first roommate

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was my sister.
My sister was my roommate until

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I was about 8, maybe she was 9
or 10.

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And then we separated and I went
downstairs.

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She was upstairs, you know, the
room, there were two bedrooms

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upstairs and there was kind of
one bedroom downstairs where all

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the guys.
And then my Seth moved out and

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it was me and Edwin were in the
room until he left for college.

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So that was like 8 years or
something.

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And and then when I went off to
college, my first, I mean, I

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would go down on a Friday after
I would, I would take off

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Friday, go down to Old Dominion
as I got accepted to college.

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And this is after I went to Nova
for five years.

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So I was all ready to go.
That's not an exaggeration

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either if you're listening for
the first time.

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And then the I went and I had a
girlfriend at the time and she

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went with me.
We went around the different

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roommate places and we go to
this one lady and she's renting

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out a garage that has a bath in
it and all this kind of stuff

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like that.
But she comes to the door and

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she's probably mid 30s and her
job is she paints paracels and

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she is in a bathrobe because I'd
called her from the college

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because I went there on Friday
night, got there, got up

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Saturday morning, went to
housing because I'm moving in.

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I got all my stuff in the
trailer, everything.

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I don't have a place and I'm
moving in Monday, right?

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So I go there and I got to find
a place.

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So it's it's real serious.
So I I'm looking and I find this

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woman that's has a a rent and
it's like a hundred 25150 bucks

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a month, something like that.
I'm looking for like the

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cheapest I can stay.
I didn't care.

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I looked at I looked at one
place.

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It's a frat house and they
wanted to rent me a closet.

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I mean literally a closet.
It was a walk in closet that was

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like half a walk in closet and
it was only 50 bucks a month.

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But I but it was in the main
hallway and I was like, there is

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no way I can do this.
This will be this will be the

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end of me.
Like, you know, because being my

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own drunkenness and craziness.
And if I was to stay at a frat

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House of 14 guys, whatever it
would have been, it would have

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been a mess.
Anyway, we're at that lady's

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house.
She shows us around and my

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girlfriend's like, oh, like
what's wrong, man?

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I'm like, what's going on?
She goes, I, I don't want you

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staying there.
Like what do you mean I, I don't

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want you staying there.
Why?

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She's like, I, I think that
something's going to happen.

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What do you mean?
She goes, she answers the door

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in her bathrobe.
What do you think's going to

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happen?
And I'm like, oh, so it's going

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to be rent free.
She didn't like that idea.

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I ended up rooming with another
guy, Brian Jackson and Stewart,

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I don't remember his last name.
He rode a motorcycle, Stewart,

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Little, something like that.
But he was a gay guy, which I

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didn't.
Openly gay?

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Well, I didn't know if.
He was gay, but he, he, he

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wasn't gay when I met him, all
right, but he, he gave the vibe.

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And then I realized he was when
I moved in because he had

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boyfriends.
And then the other guy was an

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engineer that had graduated from
Old Dominion and was working in

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the shipyards in Norfolk.
So that, and I was a mile and

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1/2 from campus and they were
great roommates.

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I paid 110 bucks a month for, I
mean, think about that, 110

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bucks a month.
I could, I could, I could pay

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for school and rent and
everything.

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Stayed there for the summer.
I was there for that whole

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summer.
Then the next year I went, I did

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the same thing all over again.
I go down on a Friday.

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I didn't have a girlfriend
anymore.

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She dumped me.
That was a heartbreak.

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Well, that's a fast.
That's a long story.

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No, that was like her.
That was like her third year

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dating.
Second year.

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Second year, I was in love.
She wasn't.

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You know, you know how that
works.

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You know, we're everybody's.
I think most people in life find

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themselves on the short end of
the stick anyway.

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That was a heartbreaker.
But not to go into that, but the

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I rented a place, I showed up.
It was at 860 W 46th St.

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It was right across the street,
one house down from a place

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called the Q Club.
And the Q Club once again was

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the largest gay club in Norfolk.
Well, this is where the Navy is

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right isn't right.
And so the Navy, the Navy guys

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would come there like they had,
they would, they would have big

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parties on Fridays and
Saturdays.

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And then Sunday night was drag
night.

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And we would sit on the front
porch and drink beer.

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And we would guess because the
people would park all up and

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down our street And they'd be
walking up the street and you'd

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see somebody dressed to the
nines and spiked heels and all

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this kind of stuff.
And you'd be like man or woman.

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And we would, you know.
It's kind of interesting that

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you talk about Norfolk like
this, because when we went down

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there, it was nothing of the
sort of popular, even populated.

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It wasn't even really that
populated.

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It seemed like a a ghost town of
some sort, like the graduation.

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It seems like everybody that was
there was for the graduation.

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Nobody lived in the town.
Very weird.

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Very, very strange.
We lived in that area that is

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now those office buildings and
all those buildings cause all

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those buildings were like
ramshackle houses and

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warehouses, nothing but
warehouses.

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And the, and the Q Club was a
warehouse.

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I did go into the Q club like
twice.

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I had a buddy from the Navy that
came and said we should go

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there.
And I'm like, OK, so we go in

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there and he goes, we're going
together and we could just say

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we're together so we don't have
to worry about being head on.

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And then they came in and
they're looking at him because

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he's 66 and you're tall.
Drink of water.

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We did not dance with anybody.
We went in we had a beer and we

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said OK, this is not for us.
And then we left and but that

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place there I showed up on a
Saturday and I met a friend of

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mine, current friend of mine
today doggy was painting the

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house and he was painting the
house for like the first two

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months rent or something the
whole inside he tried to get me

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to paint because he had two
cases of beer.

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He said help me paint.
I'm like hell no, you know, I'll

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just drink your beer and I'll
talk to you the whole time

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you're painting because he was
amazing.

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He was just like he'd slop it,
put it up, paint it real good.

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It was a wooden floor house.
It had two full baths. 1 bath

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was what was it was clogged and
it was like 4 inches of water

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and it was muddy.
There was there was a rat in the

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kitchen dead underneath the
stove.

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You can see the tail sticking
out and I and all I can think of

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myself is I said, you know, it
was, it was, I think it was a.

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100 it was. 110 bucks a month
and I can eat out.

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There you go.
At least the rat wasn't alive.

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You know, I'd rather be but.
I, I never could afford to eat

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out.
I, I ended up doing the ramen

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thing and all that and I, I
would go to, I would sell plasma

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for 15 bucks 'cause it was
closer to the plasma station.

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I'd sell the plasma and then
come back and get quart of vodka

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or bourbon and I got a quart of
Senators club and I get like 10

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ramens, maybe 12.
I get a a pound or 22 oz or

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something like that of it was
called cheese type product.

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It didn't it didn't melt in a
pan.

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I tried it.
I I got on the skillet, threw

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threw the cheese in there,
turned black on once I flipped

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it over, turned.
Black in there.

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It would get a little melting,
but but, but that's all it would

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do.
And it was like, so it was so

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comic.
But the roommates, I mean, you

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know, we were, we got along
pretty well.

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Ganter came in.
He was a finance guy.

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There was another guy named
Moose.

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He came in, his parents came
and, you know, they were buying

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him stuff and and he was the
rebellious, you know, 18 year

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old, Oh, I don't want to wear
this.

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I don't want to go to class and,
and doggy's over there and doggy

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is like 27 at this time and I'm
like 23 or, and I'm like, dude,

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if, if you don't want them, I'll
wear them.

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And his parents were like
looking at me and he's going

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like, Oh, I said, those are
cool.

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I'd wear those.
And then he immediately wanted

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his shoes.
And his parents like loved me

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right after that because I kept
saying, you know, you got to go

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to class, man.
If you can't go to class, don't

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take 8:00 classes if you can't
make it.

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And you know, I don't think he
ever graduated.

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He kind of fell to the wayside.
We had Doggy's cousin moved in,

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which was, I call him Vito.
It's funny, I don't know his

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name and he moved in.
And I mean it was.

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Just it was like a non-stop
party.

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You know, we would, we would, we
had a, we had, the house was

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pretty cleaned.
We had a rule that in the

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kitchen that every day somebody
had a kitchen duty and kitchen

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duty meant do all the dishes,
clean the counters, put

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everything away and clean the
table or you eat.

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And if you don't do it by
midnight, you got to buy a case

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of beer and, and we would buy a
case of Milwaukee's best was 599

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at 7:11.
So the whole time during the

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year, people would, you know,
you didn't want to spend 6 bucks

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it it was 6 bucks worth doing
the dishes and that's what it

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was.
So you'd every so often somebody

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would skip 1, you get a case of
beer and everybody would say

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party time and so and so's not
doing his dishes and then maybe

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the next day.
But if you got him like after

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two or three days it was
horrible.

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The thing is that during exam
time people would like like I

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had during exam week and the pre
week I just bought 2 cases of

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beer, brought him in and said I
ain't doing the next two times.

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Doggy says I ain't doing the
next two times.

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Yeah, well, that's what I was
thinking too.

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Is like what happens after that?
Would you have?

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Like we had every dishes dirty,
6 or 8 cases of beer sitting in

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there and we drank time but.
Then no dish.

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Wouldn't.
And when you wanted food, you

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had to wash your dishes.
You had to pull them out of they

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were all over the counter
because we had more dishes than

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would fit and, you know, and the
skillets was dirty.

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You know when you'd wash that
and you'd make your food and

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then and I remember I'm eating
ramen and like Bologna

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sandwiches, you know, or I mean
that.

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And occasionally I got a carton
of eggs.

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I think eggs were like $0.99 for
a dozen.

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So you would, you eat eggs and
dinner was, you know, you get a

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burrito, it's Speedy's for
$1.25.

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So you had, it was really cheap
food.

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I could, I could live pretty
well.

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I mean not not well.
Pretty well, yeah.

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Better than I did living.
Yeah, fair enough.

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So.
The food was there was, you

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know, you, you, I, I didn't go
hungry.

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Let's just say that, you know,
so that worked out pretty well.

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But the, the roommates were
great.

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And then when I got out of
college, I roommate with a, a

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friend of mine, Leroy, his
brother Larry, and we, we got a

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place at Larchmont Village
Apartments in Alexandria.

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And I remember it was 430 No 535
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And so it was cheap, you know,
and for me, you know, I was, I,

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I got a job working downtown DC
and it was 13 38th St. by

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Charles E Simon and Company.
And we were right across the

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street from where the
prostitutes were.

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You know, there's a little pull
in right by the church and every

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night I get off work at like 6
and I walk out there and there

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was a line forming and there's
like a line of like 15 or 20

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prostitutes waiting for the guys
because the guys would pull in.

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They'd hop in, negotiate a
price, and then they'd drive

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around the corner and go down
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And I parked down the alley in
the garage there.

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So I'd walk past people having
coitus in or whatever you call

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it, it was whatever but and then
drive home.

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But that, I mean that he was a
good roommate, but the problem

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with roommates is they get
girlfriends And his first

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girlfriend he brought in was who
is this?

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That was Larry, his first
roommate he brought in was OK

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because it's like he said, oh,
I, I have, I, I'm now going to

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bring her in.
So I think I should pay like 1/3

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or 20% more or something like
that.

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And we negotiate a fee.
And I was like, yeah, that's

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cool.
I didn't care because he was, he

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brought it up.
I didn't bring it up.

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Oh, that's nice.
Second roommate, second time he

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had a girlfriend, he broke it
with that girlfriend was really

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interesting.
He she turned into a stripper

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and she did a show in the house.
I remember my brother called me

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and he goes what you do?
And I said, well, my roommate's

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girlfriend's dancing on the
coffee table right now and he's

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got four of his buddies there
and they're giving her dollars,

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you know, which I mean, that
would never have happened if I'd

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had a different roommate, I
think.

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And, but I mean, he was
interesting character.

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We went to, we went to Canada.
And I remember when we crossed

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the Canadian border and we got
money, We got Canadian money.

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And it was like a dollar seven
for a dollar.

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He's like, Oh my God, why, why
doesn't everybody do this?

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And like, what do you mean?
He goes, well, we, we just got

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more money and we should just go
get more American dollars and

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come here and get more money.
And I was just like, but but

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when we go back, we only get a
dollar for the dollar seven.

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No, no, we'll just spend the
dollar seven over in America.

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And I said, but it's Canadian
and, and it, and it, I, I, well,

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it also happened that I took
about a quarter pound of weed

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with us and we were stoned the
whole time we were going, you

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know it.
Was this close to discovering a

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forex like exchange trading like
that?

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He was this close, you know, it
was really.

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Close.
So funny because he was just

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like, why wouldn't why wouldn't
everybody do this?

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We would just go across the
border and get more money, you

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know, why would we do that?
Well, you know, if you think

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about it, that's called
arbitrage.

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What you look for is currency
trading, where one currency's

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overvalued and another
currency's undervalued and you

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buy the undervalued and you
trade it for the overvalued and

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then you go to a third currency.
Yeah, people that manipulate it.

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I mean, Soros is the biggest one
that did.

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I think he did it in Venezuela
or Brazil where he bought like a

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billion dollars worth of
currency, you know, and he

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cornered the market on the on
the dot on the currency.

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So the currency rises through
the roof and then he sells, you

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know, contracts, he buys short
contracts and he makes, you

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know, $100 million.
And they started figuring it

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out.
And then the countries were

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like, no, you're not going to
come and screw with our currency

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just to line your pockets 'cause
they figured a hole in the

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system.
And that's what financial guys

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do.
They figure out a way to make

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money from doing nothing or, you
know, manipulating price

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differentials.
And that's what they talk about

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arbitrage is that and M&A
arbitrage, which is something I

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did later, was when you're
looking for something, you know,

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you're looking for an
undervalued asset.

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You know, you make a tender off
for a company for $30, it's

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trading at 20.
I want to buy that stock, right?

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I want to buy it at 2020220426,
2726.

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And it's all about whether or
not the deal is going to go

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through because then it'll be
27.

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It might be raised 28 or 29 or
30, or it might just fall back

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to 15 if it fails.
And remember, my first day was

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Black Monday so I saw a lot of
deals fall apart real quick.

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But anyway, he was the third
roommate, 4th, whatever whatever

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number.
But he cut out like on a Monday

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before the end of month with his
girlfriend and left a note and

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then.
What did the notes say?

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What?
What do the notes say?

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That he was, he was worried and
that he, he didn't feel

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comfortable and he left because
we had, I was fighting with her

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because people were calling
there and she would answer the

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phone and they, and they say hi,
it's Phil there.

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And then she'd say no and hang
up.

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And then I would never know
anything.

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And then people would say, well,
you never call me back.

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I'm like, what do you mean?
It's like, well, I called you

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and some woman picks up the
phone and hangs up on me and I'm

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like, oh, and then I cornered
her and and we got in a

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screaming match and he freaked
out that I was yelling at his

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girlfriend because, well, the C
word may have been used and.

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But to not even write a note
down to be like, yeah, your mom

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called.
I, I, I work as a secretary all

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day.
It's not my job.

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And, and here's the thing, they
weren't paying any rent for her.

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So, you know, it was, it was, it
was, it was a painful thing, you

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know, and then his brother
wanted me to go with him camping

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that Friday when and I, I was
like, Nah, I'm like, Nah, I

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don't want to.
Go Did you know the brother at

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all?
Yeah, the brother and I were

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friends since Manny's, so he
wasn't.

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Going to like leave you out in
the woods or anything.

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Yeah, he was.
You think so?

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Yeah, he was going.
To leave me to go back.

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Because his brother moved out
when I said no to camping and if

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I would have gone camping with
Leroy, I think his brother would

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have Leroy would have left me
there, gone back, helped his

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brother move out and then and I
never heard from him again after

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that.
That's.

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Such a weird thing though, if he
could have just moved out

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anyway.
Yeah, why would he need to leave

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you in the woods?
That doesn't make any sense.

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Well, because then he could
have.

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It would have been easier.
How would it?

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How would it have been easier?
You know, I don't know, I, I've

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often wondered what the, what
the whole deal was because I

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mean, him and I hadn't been
camping or doing anything in

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years.
And then he wanted to go

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camping.
That's hard.

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And I knew I was in a big
stressful situation with his

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brother.
Maybe he just wanted to move out

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sooner, you know?
Because brother said he was

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going to move out and he's like,
OK, we'll move out at the end of

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the month.
That's, I mean, well the lease

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wasn't up for another two
months, so you would have had to

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pay for the other two months,
right?

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That's fair.
You have a lease to the it'd be

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like you're it's December now.
Your lease is up what, end of

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February?
Yeah.

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Let's say that I come out there
and I take Alex and Jordan

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camping and then and then you
and and your girlfriend move out

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to her house while we're out
there and then I just leave them

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out there.
I don't really understand the

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leaving part 'cause if they go
to work well then.

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They'd come back, we'll see you.
There was never any

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confrontation.
They might have been worried

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that there might have been a
confrontation 'cause I was

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thinking that he, he was going
to move out over the weekend and

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that's the reason that he wanted
to get me to go 'cause then he

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would have, he would have had
two full days to move out.

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Instead, he had to move out
completely in one day.

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There we go.
When I left in the morning, from

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when I left in the morning to
when I came home, I came home

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and the electricity was off.
No, the phone was off.

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The electricity was on.
And I was just like, what?

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And I had no idea, you know?
Wow, and that's in the What was

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this the 80s?
Yeah, I had to pay rent for two

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months and then and then
weirdly, I go in and I have

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this.
I worked at Charles E Simon.

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There's a girl that was there.
What the heck was her name?

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Oh, gosh, I can see her.
They used to call her Glitter,

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but her and three other girls,
two other girls were moving into

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a house on what is the last
Metro line in Maryland, the Red

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Line?
Arundel.

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No, no, not that far up north of
Bethesda.

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What's the very next woman,
honey?

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No, not Huntington, north of
Bethesda.

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Real big one.
Oh, I know what you're talking

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about.
Colesville.

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No, Colesville's up there.
No, no, no, Metro and Metro and

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Maryland.
But anyway, I moved in with her.

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Chevy Chase North Chevy Chase is
north of Bethesda, right?

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Or is that kind of the same
area?

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Kind of the same area, honestly.
Chevy Chase and Bethesda are

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like, right next to each other.
Fun fact about that Chevy Chase,

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MD, named after Chevy Chase's
the famous actor's father.

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Actually funny enough.
Yeah, and the reason why it's

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called Chevy Chase, MD is
because he owned a large amount

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of car dealerships in Chevy
Chase, MD and that's why it's

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named after him.
Funny enough, I'm.

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Trying to remember this because
it's interesting story.

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Metro Red Line.
Yeah, I can't remember off the

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top of my head, 'cause I used to
drive to Colesville.

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I remember that and even which.
Was far.

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This was not.
This was not that far up.

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It was
Metro, North Grove, Nerbessa

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Medical Center, Friendship
Heights, Silver Catoma, Wheaton,

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Glenmont.
Glenmont wasn't there.

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I don't remember.
That one.

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No, I I would gosh, this is so
weird N something It was north

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of Tacoma.
It was.

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It was.
Tacoma.

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I forgot about that one.
Yeah, it was 17 stops.

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Yeah, 17 stops well.
Yeah, it was 17 stops to get to

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the what was OK here I have, I
have the metro in front of me.

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I won't.
The metro in front of me well on

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the.
Shady Grove.

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Shady Grove.
Shady Grove, Last stop and Shady

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Grove and I would come in and I
would go all the way to

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Judiciary Square and that was
123456789101112131415.

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That's the transfer too, right?
Where was 15/16/17?

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No, no transfer.
Oh, no transfer.

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So, but if you didn't get a if
you didn't get a seat at Shady

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Grove, and a lot of times if you
didn't get there early enough,

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the whole train was full.
And so you're standing for 17

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stops and usually, you know,
you're in your 20s, so you're

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hungover.
That's just the way it was.

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And you know, and I remember
giving up my seat like in in

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you'd see people from Rockville
was the very next stop, which

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was a big stop and old people
would come on or Bethesda.

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And but anyway, I live with the,
the them for a little over a

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year.
And then I was talk, I was

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friends with doggy cause doggy
graduated and he said, hey, we

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should get a place.
And I'm like, yeah, well, let's

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get a place.
And then I moved out of there

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00:24:57,720 --> 00:25:00,880
and moved to Huntington.
And I lived in Huntington with

444
00:25:00,960 --> 00:25:03,920
with doggy for probably 2 years.
Oh wow.

445
00:25:04,280 --> 00:25:08,240
And then wait.
Huntington, Maryland.

446
00:25:08,800 --> 00:25:11,800
Huntington Metro, which is in.
Is that Maryland?

447
00:25:11,880 --> 00:25:17,400
Alexandria, Alexandria Just
outside the Beltway and the

448
00:25:17,400 --> 00:25:20,560
Yellow line and the Huntington
was the last stop there.

449
00:25:21,160 --> 00:25:24,760
And that's when I started dating
Valerie.

450
00:25:24,760 --> 00:25:28,400
It like a year into it, a year
and a half into it.

451
00:25:28,400 --> 00:25:33,800
I dated other women, but you
know, they were all youthful and

452
00:25:35,200 --> 00:25:39,840
or not in this country and
anyway or not in the state that

453
00:25:39,840 --> 00:25:42,000
I lived in.
I was really good at dating

454
00:25:42,000 --> 00:25:44,160
people at a far distance at that
point in my life.

455
00:25:44,160 --> 00:25:48,200
So it was very different, but,
but I lived with doggy for a

456
00:25:48,200 --> 00:25:52,040
year, maybe 2 years.
I think it was, it might have

457
00:25:52,040 --> 00:25:55,520
been just a year.
Maybe it was 2 years, might have

458
00:25:55,520 --> 00:25:57,640
been two years.
And at the end of two years is

459
00:25:57,640 --> 00:26:01,920
when I like four months in six
months into the second year I

460
00:26:01,920 --> 00:26:06,520
met Valerie and then we were
dating and then we, I remember

461
00:26:06,520 --> 00:26:10,280
we were at the, we got serious
pretty quick.

462
00:26:10,520 --> 00:26:17,760
You know, I remember we were at
Red Hot and Blue and, and we're

463
00:26:17,760 --> 00:26:19,680
sitting here talking.
It's like, well, you know, my

464
00:26:19,680 --> 00:26:21,640
lease is coming up.
She goes, yeah.

465
00:26:22,080 --> 00:26:25,240
I say, well, you know, maybe we
should like she goes live

466
00:26:25,240 --> 00:26:27,840
together.
I'm like, yeah, I'd be at that.

467
00:26:27,840 --> 00:26:30,320
And she goes, well, you know, it
would be something that we're

468
00:26:30,320 --> 00:26:33,360
like, it's going to be more
permanent.

469
00:26:33,360 --> 00:26:34,960
And neither one of us would say
marriage.

470
00:26:35,520 --> 00:26:38,440
We say, yeah, you know,
something more permanent long

471
00:26:38,440 --> 00:26:41,840
term, but let's let's move in
together because for the most

472
00:26:41,840 --> 00:26:43,320
part, I wasn't in Huntington.
I was at her.

473
00:26:43,480 --> 00:26:47,040
I was at her place because she
lived and South Barton St. which

474
00:26:47,040 --> 00:26:49,000
was like 15 minutes from my
work.

475
00:26:49,000 --> 00:26:52,360
Huntington was like 45.
So I pretty much married her

476
00:26:52,360 --> 00:26:54,520
because you live closer to my
work.

477
00:26:54,520 --> 00:26:58,960
But that's.
You were 38. 38 What?

478
00:26:59,120 --> 00:27:02,560
By this time.
No 3729.

479
00:27:03,000 --> 00:27:05,680
Oh, really?
29 You knew her 10 years from

480
00:27:05,760 --> 00:27:06,560
now.
You had a kid.

481
00:27:08,360 --> 00:27:11,000
We were 38 or 39 when we had
you.

482
00:27:11,080 --> 00:27:15,080
We got married when we were 30.
OK, so was it about a decade

483
00:27:15,080 --> 00:27:16,200
later?
OK, gotcha.

484
00:27:16,360 --> 00:27:19,560
I never really thought, but she.
Was my last roommate so far, you

485
00:27:19,600 --> 00:27:20,840
know?
Yeah, well, you had me.

486
00:27:20,840 --> 00:27:23,200
I was kind of a roommate.
Yeah, you were kind of a

487
00:27:23,200 --> 00:27:24,320
roommate too.
There was.

488
00:27:24,320 --> 00:27:26,840
Some probably the.
Worst, you were the hardest one

489
00:27:26,840 --> 00:27:29,520
to live with.
But yeah.

490
00:27:29,520 --> 00:27:31,640
And then of course, we had the
cats and the dogs.

491
00:27:31,640 --> 00:27:33,280
But they're, I mean, they're a
little different.

492
00:27:33,280 --> 00:27:35,360
They they, they give you a lot
more love than kids do.

493
00:27:35,640 --> 00:27:38,280
Yeah, kids are terrible.
I'm not going to say.

494
00:27:39,280 --> 00:27:43,280
But we know it's, it's, it's, I
think it's the 7030 rule, you

495
00:27:43,280 --> 00:27:46,440
lose 30% or 7040 and you gain
70.

496
00:27:46,440 --> 00:27:49,720
So, well, I just.
Think the ages from 14 until

497
00:27:49,720 --> 00:27:55,200
about 22 are just probably the
worst, hands down.

498
00:27:55,920 --> 00:27:57,040
Oh my.
God, I I think you need to

499
00:27:57,040 --> 00:27:59,800
ratchet down that 14 to around
12.

500
00:28:00,360 --> 00:28:03,880
OK, gotcha, late twelves.
Late twelves is when you start

501
00:28:03,880 --> 00:28:07,800
to, that's when a lot of people
start smoking cigarettes.

502
00:28:07,800 --> 00:28:10,760
That's when they get introduced
to weed, that's when they get

503
00:28:10,760 --> 00:28:13,960
introduced to different drugs.
And it's not that that's

504
00:28:13,960 --> 00:28:18,920
horrible and alcohol, but then
they're becoming they, they know

505
00:28:18,920 --> 00:28:23,120
more than you.
And that doesn't dissipate until

506
00:28:24,040 --> 00:28:28,840
probably 20.
Well, sometimes it never does.

507
00:28:29,040 --> 00:28:30,240
Too.
Yeah, yeah, that's true.

508
00:28:30,240 --> 00:28:33,880
The ignorance.
Kind of just lays down and

509
00:28:33,960 --> 00:28:35,880
exists for the rest of their
lives, right?

510
00:28:35,880 --> 00:28:39,040
Depending on how educated you.
Are because you, you know you

511
00:28:39,400 --> 00:28:46,880
it, it's you are unaware of my
experiences or the, the the

512
00:28:46,880 --> 00:28:51,760
child is unaware of the parents
experiences and the parent is

513
00:28:51,760 --> 00:28:55,200
not going to tell the child
every nasty dirty thing they

514
00:28:55,200 --> 00:28:58,680
ever did and got caught for and
was horrible.

515
00:28:59,120 --> 00:29:01,320
They just don't want the kid to
go through that kind of stuff.

516
00:29:01,400 --> 00:29:03,080
Exactly.
So you're kind of what I

517
00:29:03,080 --> 00:29:06,800
realized later on is that you
guys were trying to protect me

518
00:29:06,800 --> 00:29:08,600
from the world to some degree,
right?

519
00:29:09,080 --> 00:29:12,720
And that's what, And then what I
kind of went off on my own and

520
00:29:13,080 --> 00:29:15,520
went through a bunch of
experiences that I didn't even

521
00:29:15,520 --> 00:29:18,240
really need to go through, but I
subjected myself to, you know,

522
00:29:18,720 --> 00:29:21,680
like I realized much later, I'm
like, wow, I could have

523
00:29:22,120 --> 00:29:25,240
abstained.
I could have not seen this part

524
00:29:25,240 --> 00:29:27,920
of the world that nobody ever
really should see, you know

525
00:29:28,560 --> 00:29:29,840
well.
Do you do you?

526
00:29:29,920 --> 00:29:33,280
I, I think that that there's
something about that that allows

527
00:29:33,280 --> 00:29:36,000
you to grow.
You know, I think from when I

528
00:29:36,000 --> 00:29:42,600
was when I graduated high school
to when I was 19 or 20 when I

529
00:29:42,640 --> 00:29:46,440
started to go to Old Dominion or
21, something like that.

530
00:29:46,760 --> 00:29:49,960
I was doing Nova, but I was also
working construction a lot.

531
00:29:50,520 --> 00:29:53,240
And I had a lot of experiences
that taught me how to manage

532
00:29:53,240 --> 00:29:59,000
people and how to deal with
people that were, I mean, they

533
00:29:59,000 --> 00:30:02,160
were bright in what they did,
but they were not bright about

534
00:30:02,160 --> 00:30:03,600
finance.
They were not bright about, I

535
00:30:03,600 --> 00:30:09,160
mean things like that, which I
knew a lot about and I knew

536
00:30:09,160 --> 00:30:11,720
about like why people were
selling to you and marketing to

537
00:30:11,720 --> 00:30:15,920
you and all that.
And and it just like it just it

538
00:30:15,920 --> 00:30:20,520
just made me like wow.
I mean, I always tell that story

539
00:30:20,520 --> 00:30:23,840
about the Corona, remember?
Yep, you've heard it, I think.

540
00:30:23,960 --> 00:30:26,880
Have I told that on here?
Yeah, a couple times, but only,

541
00:30:26,880 --> 00:30:28,040
only.
A couple times.

542
00:30:28,280 --> 00:30:32,840
Only a couple times, yeah.
That's what happens when you're

543
00:30:32,840 --> 00:30:34,640
old.
You keep reliving your youth and

544
00:30:34,640 --> 00:30:36,600
telling stories where you're
like, Oh my God, I'm going to

545
00:30:36,600 --> 00:30:38,960
have to pay for those people.
Yeah, I'm thinking my last

546
00:30:38,960 --> 00:30:41,440
roommate, it's probably going to
be these guys, right?

547
00:30:41,440 --> 00:30:43,840
Because I think we'll move in
with what's her face if all goes

548
00:30:43,840 --> 00:30:50,560
well at the age of 28, probably
because I think 28 is moving

549
00:30:50,560 --> 00:30:53,400
out.
So we're going to have to take

550
00:30:53,400 --> 00:30:57,880
over this MF for together or
we're going to have to move out

551
00:30:58,640 --> 00:31:00,880
one of the two.
But our landlord currently is

552
00:31:00,880 --> 00:31:05,680
looking for places through
Wiseman that are are local so we

553
00:31:05,680 --> 00:31:09,520
don't have to fucking pack EU
haul and drive it 40 miles or

554
00:31:09,520 --> 00:31:12,040
something.
Also the further W you go here

555
00:31:12,840 --> 00:31:16,600
in LA it it gets quite
expensive.

556
00:31:17,240 --> 00:31:19,480
It gets quite expensive.
The further W you go, the

557
00:31:19,480 --> 00:31:22,040
further.
Now you tell people what is it

558
00:31:22,040 --> 00:31:26,080
like you pay twelve 1500 bucks a
month each. 3100 between three

559
00:31:26,080 --> 00:31:27,800
of us.
So it's about 1200 per person,

560
00:31:27,800 --> 00:31:32,080
1234, which is unheard of right
now 'cause we were consulting

561
00:31:32,400 --> 00:31:35,360
somebody, a Wiseman, he was,
Alex was, and they're like,

562
00:31:35,360 --> 00:31:39,680
you're paying 31 for that.
And they're like, oh wait,

563
00:31:39,680 --> 00:31:41,920
sorry, it's not pretty.
It's whatever 1200 is.

564
00:31:41,920 --> 00:31:43,960
It's like 1234.
That's 37.

565
00:31:44,040 --> 00:31:47,880
I thought you paid 37 and 3837?
And she's like, that's unheard

566
00:31:47,880 --> 00:31:49,560
of.
Like that doesn't exist anymore.

567
00:31:49,800 --> 00:31:52,080
Ever since the fires, that
doesn't exist.

568
00:31:52,240 --> 00:31:57,200
But it does, Only you would have
to ratchet down the idea that

569
00:31:57,200 --> 00:32:00,200
you wanted glass windows.
Yeah.

570
00:32:00,200 --> 00:32:01,800
Or you didn't want to live in
Compton.

571
00:32:01,840 --> 00:32:04,560
Yeah, something like that.
Like you don't like the because

572
00:32:04,840 --> 00:32:08,320
the further SE you go, the
cheaper it's going to get.

573
00:32:08,320 --> 00:32:11,560
But even in Compton, in those
areas, it's not that cheap.

574
00:32:11,680 --> 00:32:15,000
Like, it isn't, it's not that
cheap unless you're getting

575
00:32:15,000 --> 00:32:18,320
government money for Section 8.
That's the only part where

576
00:32:18,320 --> 00:32:20,000
you're really going to find that
it's cheaper.

577
00:32:20,160 --> 00:32:22,200
And it's not even that much
cheaper.

578
00:32:22,200 --> 00:32:24,600
It's kind of crazy.
Like they were going over what

579
00:32:24,600 --> 00:32:28,240
it is to pay rent in the
Tenderloin in San Francisco, and

580
00:32:28,240 --> 00:32:31,120
I was amazed that it was still
$1000 a month.

581
00:32:31,120 --> 00:32:32,920
Like, it's it's still quite
crazy.

582
00:32:32,920 --> 00:32:35,240
Yeah.
It's like 900 to 1000 for

583
00:32:35,240 --> 00:32:37,120
government housing and that's
why.

584
00:32:37,120 --> 00:32:41,240
People live outside.
Yeah, exactly, 100%.

585
00:32:41,240 --> 00:32:44,080
I mean, that's just so crazy.
So what other you got roommate

586
00:32:44,080 --> 00:32:45,360
stories?
Give me a roommate story.

587
00:32:45,360 --> 00:32:47,280
I.
Remember moving in with Grant

588
00:32:47,280 --> 00:32:51,240
and I remember getting a phone
call at 2:00 in the morning and

589
00:32:51,240 --> 00:32:55,160
saying that Austin had jumped
off the balcony and I said what?

590
00:32:55,160 --> 00:32:56,680
Who's Austin?
And then I remember that was

591
00:32:56,680 --> 00:33:01,000
Grant's friend.
And then I, I remember that

592
00:33:01,000 --> 00:33:04,160
phone call so prolifically,
'cause then I called Jordan, who

593
00:33:04,160 --> 00:33:06,120
had been called earlier that
day.

594
00:33:06,560 --> 00:33:10,320
And then because he called
Jordan first, 'cause I didn't

595
00:33:10,320 --> 00:33:12,000
answer the first phone call and
I called him back.

596
00:33:12,320 --> 00:33:14,320
No, that's, that's what it was.
Jordan texted me.

597
00:33:14,320 --> 00:33:17,040
He says you should really call
Grant or something like that or

598
00:33:17,040 --> 00:33:18,320
Austin jumped or something of
the sort.

599
00:33:18,320 --> 00:33:20,640
And then I called Grant, cause
Grant called me late at.

600
00:33:20,640 --> 00:33:21,840
Night.
What floor were you on?

601
00:33:22,320 --> 00:33:25,080
The 4th floor, the 4th floor and
that.

602
00:33:25,080 --> 00:33:28,520
Was and he landed on.
Concrete, concrete.

603
00:33:28,560 --> 00:33:33,080
He was in the hospital for 70
days, 80 days, something like

604
00:33:33,080 --> 00:33:34,920
that.
He moved 4.

605
00:33:34,920 --> 00:33:38,360
Stokes and then went to grad
school after, which is pretty

606
00:33:38,360 --> 00:33:39,800
crazy.
Went to Comm school.

607
00:33:39,800 --> 00:33:42,360
I don't know what he's doing
now, but that's pretty insane.

608
00:33:42,720 --> 00:33:44,920
Probably not those quantities of
drugs and alcohol.

609
00:33:45,040 --> 00:33:47,320
No, no, I heard he was naked or
something.

610
00:33:47,320 --> 00:33:50,600
I don't know.
But everybody was not having a

611
00:33:50,600 --> 00:33:53,160
great time during the pandemic
because I remember him.

612
00:33:53,680 --> 00:33:56,960
He was working at Walmart for
about a year and a half during

613
00:33:56,960 --> 00:33:58,840
the pandemic.
And he's like, well, that would

614
00:33:58,840 --> 00:34:02,720
really make me wonder why I went
to a public Ivy League school,

615
00:34:02,800 --> 00:34:05,120
right?
If I was gonna go be a greeter

616
00:34:05,120 --> 00:34:08,360
at Walmart, I, that would
nothing short of make me

617
00:34:08,360 --> 00:34:11,639
extremely suicidal.
That would, Oh my gosh, yeah.

618
00:34:11,639 --> 00:34:15,280
And the world is gonna end and
all I can do are drugs and

619
00:34:15,280 --> 00:34:19,239
alcohol, you know, And you
really have no course of action

620
00:34:19,480 --> 00:34:21,320
in your life.
You really have no direction,

621
00:34:21,679 --> 00:34:23,679
which is really, really
upsetting.

622
00:34:23,679 --> 00:34:26,520
And not not to shame people for
working at Walmart, cause no, no

623
00:34:26,520 --> 00:34:27,920
job should ever be shamed,
right?

624
00:34:28,280 --> 00:34:31,159
But at the same time, it's like
you go to four year school, you

625
00:34:31,159 --> 00:34:33,800
go into all the student debt to
just go to an entry level

626
00:34:33,800 --> 00:34:36,199
position that you could have
done to begin with.

627
00:34:36,520 --> 00:34:37,719
Out of high school.
Yeah.

628
00:34:37,880 --> 00:34:39,639
And it's like you're not even.
I don't know.

629
00:34:39,639 --> 00:34:42,920
Yeah, what you learned, you are
not applying to that job and

630
00:34:42,920 --> 00:34:44,480
that's I think that's kind of
the thing.

631
00:34:44,639 --> 00:34:47,000
But you also got to look at
yourself that it, I think that

632
00:34:47,360 --> 00:34:52,320
it used to be not always, but it
used to be that you would you

633
00:34:52,320 --> 00:34:55,679
would go to school.
Some people go to school to

634
00:34:56,239 --> 00:35:00,480
broaden their horizons and learn
about life and things and live

635
00:35:00,480 --> 00:35:02,320
with other people because
they've always lived with their

636
00:35:02,320 --> 00:35:03,880
family.
And then that would be the first

637
00:35:04,040 --> 00:35:07,200
shot that they got to move out
and live with somebody else and

638
00:35:07,200 --> 00:35:09,280
learn what it was like to
interact with people.

639
00:35:09,680 --> 00:35:12,520
Interact with people from all
over the, all over the state,

640
00:35:12,520 --> 00:35:14,680
all over the country, all over
the world.

641
00:35:15,280 --> 00:35:18,200
So then now you're getting
exposure to people outside that

642
00:35:18,200 --> 00:35:20,040
have different viewpoints and
different things.

643
00:35:20,200 --> 00:35:21,560
So you learn how to deal with
that.

644
00:35:21,560 --> 00:35:23,840
And I think that that is a,
that's a way to grow.

645
00:35:24,240 --> 00:35:26,920
Some people can grow, some
people, some people just lock

646
00:35:26,920 --> 00:35:29,400
themselves in the ruse and you
know, and do what they do.

647
00:35:29,720 --> 00:35:32,800
Intellectual due diligence is
kind of what you're talking

648
00:35:32,800 --> 00:35:35,080
about.
And at the same time now it's

649
00:35:35,080 --> 00:35:36,960
like, do you, you look at it and
you're like, well, is

650
00:35:36,960 --> 00:35:39,960
intellectual due diligence worth
$120,000?

651
00:35:39,960 --> 00:35:42,120
And I'm not going to be able to
pay it off until I'm 60 years

652
00:35:42,120 --> 00:35:43,680
old.
Is it worth it?

653
00:35:43,800 --> 00:35:45,120
I don't know.
You asked me.

654
00:35:45,120 --> 00:35:47,160
Could you get it from your own
interests?

655
00:35:47,320 --> 00:35:50,160
Say before going into college
that you knew that you wanted to

656
00:35:50,160 --> 00:35:51,920
be a writer and you were already
an avid reader.

657
00:35:52,280 --> 00:35:54,680
Is college worth it?
I would say no, it's not worth

658
00:35:54,720 --> 00:35:56,120
it.
People that go to school for

659
00:35:56,120 --> 00:35:59,320
creative writing will only see
themselves creatively castrated

660
00:35:59,760 --> 00:36:01,520
time again.
The actors that I have seen that

661
00:36:01,520 --> 00:36:04,200
have gone and gotten Mfas are
worst actors coming out.

662
00:36:04,200 --> 00:36:06,240
They just are.
I think that that's what it is.

663
00:36:06,240 --> 00:36:08,880
You, you need to establish a
process and you need to

664
00:36:08,880 --> 00:36:14,280
establish a way that you can
creatively work in your kind of

665
00:36:14,280 --> 00:36:16,360
vocation, right?
And then there's a lot of people

666
00:36:16,360 --> 00:36:19,560
learn that from people that have
failed doing that in because

667
00:36:19,560 --> 00:36:22,120
they're teachers.
Those that teach acting are

668
00:36:22,120 --> 00:36:23,680
failed actors.
That's a fact.

669
00:36:23,880 --> 00:36:28,240
I mean, it just is.
Same with writers.

670
00:36:28,280 --> 00:36:30,440
I mean, actually that's not
always true because I had a

671
00:36:30,440 --> 00:36:35,120
poetry professor who was
published by Simon Schuster 10

672
00:36:35,120 --> 00:36:37,240
or 15 times.
And I'm like, there you go, OK,

673
00:36:37,240 --> 00:36:38,920
that's a writer that is actually
published.

674
00:36:39,200 --> 00:36:41,640
But be able to teach creative
writing who aren't published, I

675
00:36:41,640 --> 00:36:44,560
don't have any respect for.
I don't understand why you're

676
00:36:44,560 --> 00:36:49,120
teaching me a failed kind of
schedule or a failed kind of way

677
00:36:49,120 --> 00:36:50,880
about you.
Would want to learn from well

678
00:36:50,880 --> 00:36:53,520
see in theory.
I mean, I remember my dad

679
00:36:53,520 --> 00:36:57,360
telling me the story about he
went to Alabama, then he went to

680
00:36:57,360 --> 00:37:00,480
Harvard and he said when he went
to Alabama and this is when Paul

681
00:37:00,480 --> 00:37:02,880
Barry Brown was there.
So this is a lifetime ago.

682
00:37:02,880 --> 00:37:06,400
If anybody knows that is.
Anyway, he said the difference

683
00:37:06,400 --> 00:37:12,920
between the two is the book that
we used in Alabama was being

684
00:37:12,920 --> 00:37:16,960
taught by a teacher with a four
year degree and the and we used

685
00:37:16,960 --> 00:37:21,560
the same book in Harvard.
But the guy teaching the class

686
00:37:21,640 --> 00:37:23,600
wrote the book.
Yeah.

687
00:37:23,600 --> 00:37:26,200
And that was it.
You got you got some insight and

688
00:37:26,200 --> 00:37:30,480
intuition and, and and that and
that certain brain power of what

689
00:37:30,480 --> 00:37:33,920
they had.
And a lot of those people that

690
00:37:33,920 --> 00:37:37,920
are there are really successful
on their own, you know.

691
00:37:38,160 --> 00:37:41,800
Well, that was they.
Think at UVA is you had all the

692
00:37:41,800 --> 00:37:45,440
teachers, they graduated from
Harvard or Yale and they taught

693
00:37:45,440 --> 00:37:49,960
at UVA, which is interesting,
but also the roommate situation

694
00:37:49,960 --> 00:37:53,520
at and then I live by myself
that second year, which got to

695
00:37:53,520 --> 00:37:56,240
say that was amazing.
Yeah, that was incredible.

696
00:37:56,480 --> 00:37:58,880
I had Roly polys on the ground
all the time because it was a

697
00:37:58,880 --> 00:38:01,160
fucking basement apartment and I
didn't think about that.

698
00:38:01,160 --> 00:38:03,480
Never live on a ground floor
ever again.

699
00:38:03,480 --> 00:38:05,120
An apartment complex, never
again.

700
00:38:05,240 --> 00:38:06,760
Yeah, that wasn't even ground.
That was.

701
00:38:06,760 --> 00:38:08,480
Base roaches.
Roaches go downhill.

702
00:38:09,000 --> 00:38:10,520
Yeah, exactly.
They don't go up.

703
00:38:10,520 --> 00:38:13,560
They never do.
And what was I thinking about?

704
00:38:13,560 --> 00:38:16,600
Yeah, I lived under the
Realtors, and this woman wore

705
00:38:16,600 --> 00:38:19,680
heels every day, and there was
no carpet on the hardwood floor,

706
00:38:19,680 --> 00:38:21,840
so she'd come in at 6:30 in the
morning and wake me up every

707
00:38:21,840 --> 00:38:23,320
day.
And that was great.

708
00:38:23,320 --> 00:38:26,360
And many times I was hungover
and I thought about setting the

709
00:38:26,360 --> 00:38:30,840
whole fucking building on fire,
but that other than that, no, I

710
00:38:30,840 --> 00:38:32,080
never did never set the
building.

711
00:38:32,080 --> 00:38:33,680
What about Denver?
How was Denver?

712
00:38:33,800 --> 00:38:36,480
That was kind of a nightmare.
I mean, that was random.

713
00:38:36,480 --> 00:38:39,760
Roommate Adam was nice.
Ronan was a good guy, but he was

714
00:38:39,760 --> 00:38:43,400
a recovering addict as well as
well.

715
00:38:43,400 --> 00:38:45,680
Not I mean, Grant wasn't
recovering at that point.

716
00:38:45,680 --> 00:38:48,720
He's kind of just active.
And so I got kind of double down

717
00:38:48,720 --> 00:38:50,560
there.
I mean, first with Adam, then

718
00:38:50,560 --> 00:38:53,000
with Grant, then I was like,
wow, the world is just a magnet

719
00:38:53,000 --> 00:38:54,960
on my forehead for fucking drug
addicts.

720
00:38:54,960 --> 00:38:56,440
It's crazy.
And then.

721
00:38:57,520 --> 00:39:00,720
But Adam kind of reignited his
drug addiction and I kind of

722
00:39:00,720 --> 00:39:04,440
discovered mine there and then.
Yeah.

723
00:39:04,440 --> 00:39:08,800
And then he left on medical
leave and then so on and so

724
00:39:08,800 --> 00:39:11,120
forth.
But no, he was good for the time

725
00:39:11,120 --> 00:39:13,200
being.
I wouldn't say good for me.

726
00:39:13,600 --> 00:39:15,440
But was he violent?
No.

727
00:39:15,440 --> 00:39:18,360
Was he clean?
No.

728
00:39:18,360 --> 00:39:19,440
Was.
But he was.

729
00:39:20,560 --> 00:39:23,440
He was nice.
He was pleasant to, yeah.

730
00:39:23,520 --> 00:39:24,960
Yeah, we had good.
I mean, we had good.

731
00:39:24,960 --> 00:39:27,800
I, I, I mean, I've been lucky
that most of my roommates have

732
00:39:27,800 --> 00:39:29,280
been pretty good and pretty
reasonable.

733
00:39:29,280 --> 00:39:31,440
I've never been like.
A violent altercation, Yeah.

734
00:39:31,440 --> 00:39:33,920
Which has been great, you know,
because I've heard stories,

735
00:39:33,920 --> 00:39:37,040
stories, stories, stories about
confrontation that leads to

736
00:39:37,040 --> 00:39:39,280
violence and things like that.
Just the other day, when I got

737
00:39:39,280 --> 00:39:43,560
my wallet stolen, I went to the
police station to report it

738
00:39:43,560 --> 00:39:46,760
after going to LA Fitness.
And this guy was talking to me.

739
00:39:46,760 --> 00:39:48,920
I was talking to him.
And then he steps up after me,

740
00:39:48,920 --> 00:39:50,720
files a police report.
He's like, yeah, I'd like to

741
00:39:50,720 --> 00:39:53,920
report a, an assault on me.
My roommate just punched me in

742
00:39:53,920 --> 00:39:55,960
the face and I'm like, Oh my
gosh.

743
00:39:56,000 --> 00:39:57,960
And I me and Alex get back in
the car because Alex got his

744
00:39:57,960 --> 00:39:59,520
wall and stolen too.
And I was like, man, isn't that

745
00:39:59,520 --> 00:40:00,960
great that we just donate each
other?

746
00:40:00,960 --> 00:40:02,280
And he's like, yeah, that's
fantastic.

747
00:40:02,800 --> 00:40:03,840
I thought that was funny.
Yeah.

748
00:40:03,840 --> 00:40:05,320
Well.
What's a shocker because you, I

749
00:40:05,480 --> 00:40:09,760
mean it, it, The thing is, is
that people, when you learn how

750
00:40:09,760 --> 00:40:11,600
to give, you got to be able to
give and take.

751
00:40:11,640 --> 00:40:15,120
And I think The thing is, yeah,
reciprocation.

752
00:40:15,120 --> 00:40:17,040
You got to have reciprocation
because a lot of people don't

753
00:40:17,040 --> 00:40:19,280
understand it.
They just take and then other

754
00:40:19,280 --> 00:40:22,320
people are they're just givers
and then they just wait and then

755
00:40:22,320 --> 00:40:25,840
they explode.
And I think that's the whole

756
00:40:25,840 --> 00:40:30,040
idea about rules and saying this
is what we should do and we're

757
00:40:30,120 --> 00:40:32,680
all going to agree to this.
And you have each other in the

758
00:40:32,680 --> 00:40:35,080
room and you talk about it and
you make sure that you have

759
00:40:35,080 --> 00:40:38,680
clear idea of what's going to
happen and who has to clean what

760
00:40:39,000 --> 00:40:40,240
because you have to have some
sense.

761
00:40:40,240 --> 00:40:41,680
We never.
Agreed on that.

762
00:40:41,680 --> 00:40:43,160
And I think that that's
interesting.

763
00:40:43,240 --> 00:40:46,040
I don't know.
I always thought when I did that

764
00:40:46,840 --> 00:40:49,520
at at the college one, that was
really good.

765
00:40:49,520 --> 00:40:52,280
When we were at the first
college one, everybody was

766
00:40:52,280 --> 00:40:54,440
pretty clean.
I mean, I didn't live with pigs

767
00:40:54,600 --> 00:40:57,000
and I've been, I've been kind of
blessed with that.

768
00:40:57,840 --> 00:41:01,360
Larry was somewhat of a pig, but
they were only a pig when we

769
00:41:01,360 --> 00:41:02,760
weren't doing the dishes and
stuff.

770
00:41:02,960 --> 00:41:05,440
You know, as long as it as long
as the kitchen's clean, It's

771
00:41:05,440 --> 00:41:10,360
like the whole place we were, we
were supposed that is, I mean,

772
00:41:10,480 --> 00:41:13,840
you know, yeah, he was a pig.
But as long as we as long as we

773
00:41:13,840 --> 00:41:16,560
would have agreements to do the
dishes and we were doing, we

774
00:41:16,560 --> 00:41:18,320
would do schedules and stuff
like that.

775
00:41:18,320 --> 00:41:24,600
And, and I found that the bit,
the biggest deal was to make a

776
00:41:24,600 --> 00:41:27,720
schedule in the beginning and to
be very, you know, and be

777
00:41:27,720 --> 00:41:29,840
flexible and say, well, OK, how
do you want to work this?

778
00:41:30,520 --> 00:41:33,520
And then and I, and The thing
is, is I'm known.

779
00:41:33,720 --> 00:41:35,800
And one of the reasons that I
think a lot of people get along

780
00:41:35,800 --> 00:41:38,840
with me is because I like to lay
out what's going to happen and

781
00:41:39,520 --> 00:41:43,320
anticipating, you know, what's
going to happen ahead of time.

782
00:41:43,320 --> 00:41:45,400
OK, we got 2 rooms.
One room's bigger than the

783
00:41:45,440 --> 00:41:47,440
other.
It's only fair if someone has a

784
00:41:47,440 --> 00:41:49,760
bigger room, they pay a little
more or they get something or

785
00:41:49,760 --> 00:41:52,720
something else happens.
You know, there's, there's, it's

786
00:41:52,720 --> 00:41:57,080
only fair that, that somebody
cleans the kitchen every day.

787
00:41:57,080 --> 00:42:00,200
We have to do the dishes every
day, you know, I mean.

788
00:42:00,520 --> 00:42:02,320
People just do their own dishes
where I live.

789
00:42:02,400 --> 00:42:03,720
I mean, that's kind of the way
it goes well.

790
00:42:03,880 --> 00:42:08,320
We, we just, we just did it all
together because he, he had some

791
00:42:08,320 --> 00:42:09,640
dishes, but he didn't have that
many.

792
00:42:09,640 --> 00:42:11,760
And I had dishes that were
nicer.

793
00:42:12,040 --> 00:42:14,960
And, you know, we kind of, we
coexisted everything we're.

794
00:42:14,960 --> 00:42:17,360
All coming from places where we
live by ourselves.

795
00:42:17,800 --> 00:42:19,800
So I mean, we all have our own
kind.

796
00:42:19,840 --> 00:42:20,600
Of all your own.
Stuff.

797
00:42:20,600 --> 00:42:23,240
Even though everybody loves to
use my fucking cutting board.

798
00:42:23,240 --> 00:42:25,640
I don't know what that is, but
everybody enjoys that.

799
00:42:26,200 --> 00:42:28,560
But other than that, it's
because it's wooden.

800
00:42:28,560 --> 00:42:31,480
And you know, in the last year
or so, people were like, oh, if

801
00:42:31,480 --> 00:42:34,560
you use a plastic cutting board,
it scrapes off and it gets in

802
00:42:34,560 --> 00:42:37,080
your brain or something.
Yeah, I eat the plastic.

803
00:42:37,840 --> 00:42:39,400
Yeah, I swear I got plastic.
That's.

804
00:42:39,400 --> 00:42:42,320
Always good, man.
I I've got so much stuff in my

805
00:42:42,320 --> 00:42:43,760
brain.
It's like plastic's not a thing

806
00:42:43,760 --> 00:42:45,440
I'm worried about.
It's all the other stuff I got

807
00:42:45,440 --> 00:42:46,680
in the brain.
No, exactly.

808
00:42:46,680 --> 00:42:47,840
Yeah, yeah.
I mean, you think about all the

809
00:42:47,840 --> 00:42:52,040
different roommates that that
like Doggy is somebody I met in

810
00:42:52,040 --> 00:42:55,880
college and he's still a friend
today and I still have, I still

811
00:42:55,880 --> 00:43:00,880
meet him and I and I'm going to
meet him in a couple weeks and I

812
00:43:00,880 --> 00:43:04,320
meet him every quarter and we go
out and have lunch and I meet

813
00:43:04,320 --> 00:43:05,600
him.
He lives up in Colombia.

814
00:43:06,040 --> 00:43:08,720
He grew up around here where I
live now.

815
00:43:08,800 --> 00:43:11,760
And that's what it is funny.
And he knew my aunt, my aunt and

816
00:43:11,760 --> 00:43:14,320
my uncle when we came in and it
was like a really interesting

817
00:43:14,320 --> 00:43:16,160
thing.
And he likes to drink beer, and

818
00:43:16,160 --> 00:43:16,720
I like to.
Drink.

819
00:43:16,720 --> 00:43:19,080
He knew your aunt and uncle?
Yeah, I didn't.

820
00:43:19,080 --> 00:43:24,160
Know that his dad was an artist
and his dad taught the levies

821
00:43:24,160 --> 00:43:26,240
which were really good friends
with the hoof knuckles.

822
00:43:26,720 --> 00:43:28,600
Interest.
I never knew that well and.

823
00:43:29,000 --> 00:43:31,840
There was always some rumors
about things that happened

824
00:43:31,840 --> 00:43:32,840
there, but we won't go into
that.

825
00:43:32,840 --> 00:43:34,280
Oh, I see what you're talking
about, Yeah.

826
00:43:34,440 --> 00:43:36,920
You know, there's, there's all
those things, you know, you,

827
00:43:37,000 --> 00:43:39,840
you, you hear the scuttlebutt
about this, that and the other

828
00:43:39,840 --> 00:43:43,000
and who did what to whom and how
they did it and all that other

829
00:43:43,000 --> 00:43:45,800
kind of stuff like that.
And we're old people, you know,

830
00:43:46,000 --> 00:43:50,200
they're all, they're all pro
creators, you know, whatever you

831
00:43:50,200 --> 00:43:53,240
want to say.
But as far as like other

832
00:43:53,240 --> 00:43:56,200
roommates, that's, that's like
all my roommates.

833
00:43:56,200 --> 00:44:00,920
I've been, you know, I, I think
I've been pretty lucky with the

834
00:44:00,920 --> 00:44:03,760
number of roommates.
I think there's the, the whole,

835
00:44:03,760 --> 00:44:07,280
the end of the Larry thing was
bad, but for, for so long it was

836
00:44:07,280 --> 00:44:09,720
great.
It was, it was a good situation.

837
00:44:09,720 --> 00:44:12,440
It was him and I, I mean, we, we
had a road trip.

838
00:44:12,440 --> 00:44:19,040
We went to, I don't remember
going when we went to Canada and

839
00:44:19,040 --> 00:44:22,200
he had his, what the hell was
that?

840
00:44:23,200 --> 00:44:25,720
A Mustang 2?
And we drove that up and then it

841
00:44:25,720 --> 00:44:30,080
broke down on the way back and,
and we, we just, we drank and

842
00:44:30,080 --> 00:44:33,440
got stoned and smoked the whole
time and lived in the woods and

843
00:44:33,600 --> 00:44:36,160
camped on a lake and all this
kind of stuff like that.

844
00:44:36,160 --> 00:44:42,200
It was just a great time.
And, you know, and, and in

845
00:44:42,200 --> 00:44:45,480
college with Doggy and the guys,
we, I mean, we had keg parties

846
00:44:45,480 --> 00:44:48,720
at the house.
The police came and raided once

847
00:44:48,720 --> 00:44:50,800
and arrested a bunch of people.
I wasn't one of them.

848
00:44:51,120 --> 00:44:53,600
They arrested my roommate.
He was taking cash at the door

849
00:44:53,600 --> 00:44:55,720
and he got arrested and then two
other people got arrested.

850
00:44:55,720 --> 00:44:56,320
What are you?
Arrested.

851
00:44:57,680 --> 00:45:01,240
For he will sell alcohol.
We had a, we had a weekend party

852
00:45:01,240 --> 00:45:03,280
there and it was Greek week,
right?

853
00:45:04,120 --> 00:45:07,400
Which is Greek is this big
fraternity for colleges and

854
00:45:07,400 --> 00:45:10,240
stuff like that.
And we had a, a Saturday night

855
00:45:10,240 --> 00:45:15,800
party and we, and we put out all
these things GRWK ladies free.

856
00:45:16,440 --> 00:45:21,880
And we, we were charging guys 2
bucks at the door and we had 18

857
00:45:21,880 --> 00:45:24,520
kegs.
We had two kegs in the back and

858
00:45:24,520 --> 00:45:27,680
we were, and we were, and we had
a runner who would run to the

859
00:45:27,680 --> 00:45:30,480
local store and bring another
keg back when one got empty.

860
00:45:30,480 --> 00:45:33,880
So we didn't have to pay for
them as as we got money, we

861
00:45:33,880 --> 00:45:36,200
would get another as we got
money, we'd get another as.

862
00:45:36,200 --> 00:45:40,280
And it was so cool.
And at, at like in the

863
00:45:40,280 --> 00:45:44,880
afternoon, the head of the Greek
organization came to our house

864
00:45:44,880 --> 00:45:46,840
and Ron Gander's in the front.
No, it wasn't afternoon.

865
00:45:46,840 --> 00:45:49,680
It's like 11:30 in the morning.
He started drinking at 9.

866
00:45:50,680 --> 00:45:52,400
I had a few beers.
I wasn't.

867
00:45:52,520 --> 00:45:54,840
And he had a stamp on his
forehead that said paid and on

868
00:45:54,840 --> 00:45:58,480
each cheek that said paid.
And he was wearing a, you know,

869
00:45:58,480 --> 00:46:04,240
like a fighter robe, didn't have
anything underneath it.

870
00:46:04,720 --> 00:46:08,960
And the and the and the guy
comes up and he's telling us

871
00:46:08,960 --> 00:46:11,840
that, you know, why are we
having an unsponsored Greek

872
00:46:11,840 --> 00:46:13,080
party?
And we say we're not having a

873
00:46:13,080 --> 00:46:15,120
Greek party.
And they say, well, what it says

874
00:46:15,120 --> 00:46:17,640
GRWK.
And we're like, that means great

875
00:46:17,640 --> 00:46:21,440
weekend.
And and he and he is, he's

876
00:46:21,440 --> 00:46:22,880
pissed.
And his girlfriend's like right

877
00:46:22,880 --> 00:46:24,360
behind him.
Yeah, you better not.

878
00:46:25,960 --> 00:46:29,400
You know, she's like, she's
she's doing the mean look, but

879
00:46:29,400 --> 00:46:32,840
she doesn't really say anything.
And he turns and he starts to

880
00:46:32,840 --> 00:46:35,920
walk away and as he turns Ganner
and I are sitting on the front

881
00:46:35,920 --> 00:46:40,360
porch and Ganner just flops open
his robe and just flashes her,

882
00:46:40,640 --> 00:46:44,920
which I'm sure that's that's not
good now, but at the time she

883
00:46:44,920 --> 00:46:50,360
just went and I of course tapped
him and I said he's already paid

884
00:46:50,360 --> 00:46:55,240
for.
Anyway, they left alcohol board

885
00:46:55,240 --> 00:47:01,280
shows up at 10 with Paddy
wagons, probably 10 police cars,

886
00:47:02,840 --> 00:47:05,800
you know, and they, they, they
arrest a lot of people.

887
00:47:05,800 --> 00:47:09,600
They, they took my wallet.
I saw one guy in the front front

888
00:47:09,600 --> 00:47:11,040
that was actually pointing at
him.

889
00:47:11,280 --> 00:47:13,040
He was a bartender.
And he said they can't arrest

890
00:47:13,040 --> 00:47:16,320
people for not doing anything.
And the guy and and it's Norfolk

891
00:47:16,320 --> 00:47:18,280
Police.
Yeah, they're not.

892
00:47:18,600 --> 00:47:21,400
They've all got clubs, there's
dogs, there's everything.

893
00:47:21,560 --> 00:47:25,080
He points at one of them because
the guy goes, give me your ID.

894
00:47:25,080 --> 00:47:26,840
He goes, I don't have to show
you an ID.

895
00:47:27,080 --> 00:47:28,880
And he goes, you and he goes,
you can't.

896
00:47:28,880 --> 00:47:32,560
And when he said that, the cop
grabbed his finger, twisted it,

897
00:47:33,440 --> 00:47:37,240
turned, dropped them down to his
knees, whips out his cuffs,

898
00:47:37,440 --> 00:47:41,320
cuffs, cuffs them and starts
dragging them across the lawn.

899
00:47:41,880 --> 00:47:43,920
Have you ever been handcuffed?
Yeah.

900
00:47:44,320 --> 00:47:46,480
You know what happens when they
pull and they carry you by?

901
00:47:46,480 --> 00:47:49,320
The tighter it gets tighter.
Yeah.

902
00:47:49,320 --> 00:47:50,960
And I know that.
I already knew that.

903
00:47:51,280 --> 00:47:52,920
And they never dragged him girls
along.

904
00:47:52,920 --> 00:47:55,480
I already knew that.
And the cop, the cops yelling at

905
00:47:55,480 --> 00:47:56,640
me.
Give me your ID.

906
00:47:56,640 --> 00:47:58,280
What you do, do do do you live
here?

907
00:47:58,280 --> 00:48:00,240
Do you do this?
And then he's on one side.

908
00:48:00,240 --> 00:48:02,560
And then there's another guy
with a German Shepherd who's

909
00:48:02,560 --> 00:48:06,120
jumping at me barking.
And he's yelling in different

910
00:48:06,120 --> 00:48:07,560
orders at me.
And I'm just like.

911
00:48:08,040 --> 00:48:10,320
And then and then when I would
answer one guy, the other guy

912
00:48:10,320 --> 00:48:12,960
was like, shut the hell up.
You know, he's cussing at me.

913
00:48:13,360 --> 00:48:15,000
Give me.
And I hand him my I pull out my

914
00:48:15,000 --> 00:48:16,920
ID and he grabs it and he just
takes off.

915
00:48:18,360 --> 00:48:20,680
And I'm freaked out.
And that's when they told me.

916
00:48:20,680 --> 00:48:22,720
They said if you don't, you
have.

917
00:48:24,400 --> 00:48:28,040
And I said, everybody's inside,
you know, so you can't come in

918
00:48:28,040 --> 00:48:29,480
the house.
We wouldn't let them in the

919
00:48:29,480 --> 00:48:30,920
house.
And they said, OK, we're gonna

920
00:48:30,960 --> 00:48:32,680
camp.
We're gonna camp outside.

921
00:48:33,440 --> 00:48:37,520
And anybody that comes out, if
anybody's underage, we're gonna

922
00:48:37,520 --> 00:48:41,600
come inside in force and we're
going to write everybody a

923
00:48:41,600 --> 00:48:43,240
ticket.
And I want you to know that if,

924
00:48:43,280 --> 00:48:50,600
if it's a $5000 fine to serve
alcohol to underage people per

925
00:48:51,000 --> 00:48:53,360
person.
So I go in the house.

926
00:48:53,720 --> 00:48:56,760
So I go in the house and our
house is literally it's a 5

927
00:48:56,760 --> 00:48:58,560
bedroom house.
It's huge.

928
00:48:58,760 --> 00:49:03,200
There's probably 150 people
stuffed in the living room, the

929
00:49:03,200 --> 00:49:07,520
dining room, the kitchen, all
the way up the stairway into the

930
00:49:07,520 --> 00:49:10,160
back, the bedrooms.
And I said, anybody underage

931
00:49:10,160 --> 00:49:11,720
here?
I said the cop is anybody

932
00:49:11,720 --> 00:49:14,760
underage here?
And like 20% raise their hands

933
00:49:16,440 --> 00:49:19,560
like fuck.
And I said, he said we could all

934
00:49:19,560 --> 00:49:23,840
leave if we leave immediately.
But if we don't and we stay

935
00:49:23,840 --> 00:49:26,600
here, he's going to write a
ticket to each and every one of

936
00:49:26,600 --> 00:49:29,760
us for all the people serving,
for us serving underage.

937
00:49:29,760 --> 00:49:33,280
And it's a $5000.
And I never got the word fine.

938
00:49:33,280 --> 00:49:36,320
Out the door pops open,
everybody leaves.

939
00:49:36,680 --> 00:49:38,920
Like it was a huge pool of
people.

940
00:49:38,920 --> 00:49:41,880
They all went out.
You know the cops in the back,

941
00:49:41,880 --> 00:49:44,440
they took the taps from the they
took.

942
00:49:44,440 --> 00:49:47,280
We had one tap, we had two kegs.
They spiked the other keg and

943
00:49:47,280 --> 00:49:48,520
they dumped them all on the
ground.

944
00:49:49,040 --> 00:49:52,520
So they're all leaving.
They left, the music's blaring,

945
00:49:52,960 --> 00:49:54,680
the cops take off.
They gave me back my ID.

946
00:49:54,680 --> 00:49:58,840
I'm the only one there.
And there's a 12 pack in the

947
00:49:58,840 --> 00:50:02,600
corner on the front porch and
nobody saw it.

948
00:50:02,600 --> 00:50:04,160
Nobody did it.
And somebody must have brought

949
00:50:04,160 --> 00:50:06,600
it.
And I went over and I just sat

950
00:50:06,600 --> 00:50:09,120
there drinking a beer.
And then Ganter came in at like

951
00:50:09,120 --> 00:50:11,080
12:30 and goes, where is
everybody?

952
00:50:11,480 --> 00:50:15,040
I'm like jail, jail.
Because it was a lot of his,

953
00:50:15,040 --> 00:50:18,840
his, his, his graduate, because
he was ahead of me in college.

954
00:50:19,160 --> 00:50:21,320
He was a he was a finance major
accountant.

955
00:50:23,200 --> 00:50:26,920
But yeah, that was a great,
great, wild, wild time.

956
00:50:27,520 --> 00:50:31,800
But we had those.
I mean, he was the one that I

957
00:50:31,800 --> 00:50:32,560
had.
I see.

958
00:50:32,560 --> 00:50:38,000
I was 22 or 23 then, and I
bought my gun with me.

959
00:50:38,760 --> 00:50:41,480
I had 357 Magnum and it was in
my top drawer.

960
00:50:41,480 --> 00:50:43,200
And you know, if somebody's
going to mess with me, I was

961
00:50:43,200 --> 00:50:45,520
going to blow them away.
That was my kind of attitude,

962
00:50:45,720 --> 00:50:50,960
always was.
Anyway, he'd never shot up a

963
00:50:50,960 --> 00:50:54,880
magnum.
So we go in Norfolk, downtown

964
00:50:54,880 --> 00:50:57,920
Norfolk.
We're not 2300 yards from the

965
00:50:57,920 --> 00:51:03,600
campus in the backyard.
And it was, and we were drunk.

966
00:51:03,840 --> 00:51:05,560
It was like a Sunday drunk, you
know.

967
00:51:05,560 --> 00:51:08,480
So we started drinking about
10:30 in the morning and, and we

968
00:51:08,480 --> 00:51:11,840
were really pretty wasted by
about 3:00 in the afternoon.

969
00:51:12,720 --> 00:51:15,040
And he goes out there and he
pulls off.

970
00:51:15,040 --> 00:51:17,440
He squeezed off a couple rounds.
He squeezed off one round.

971
00:51:18,360 --> 00:51:22,360
It, it lights up his whole area.
He freaks out.

972
00:51:23,360 --> 00:51:27,200
I take the gun, I go inside and
we're inside and we're smoking

973
00:51:27,200 --> 00:51:30,320
weed because Leroy's there and a
couple others and he has like a

974
00:51:30,320 --> 00:51:33,000
four foot tall bong and all this
kind of stuff like that.

975
00:51:33,520 --> 00:51:36,320
And we don't think any of it.
We're listening to music and I

976
00:51:36,320 --> 00:51:38,840
put the gun away and we all
laughed and thought it was crazy

977
00:51:38,840 --> 00:51:40,160
and we're getting drunk and
everything.

978
00:51:40,560 --> 00:51:45,160
And then there's a knock on the
door and it's and it's and I

979
00:51:45,160 --> 00:51:48,400
look at and I go to the door and
I look and there's an

980
00:51:48,400 --> 00:51:51,800
intersection here.
And there's an intersection down

981
00:51:51,800 --> 00:51:54,080
here.
There are three police cars at

982
00:51:54,080 --> 00:51:55,920
this intersection.
There's three police cars at

983
00:51:55,920 --> 00:51:59,280
this intersection.
There's cops everywhere.

984
00:51:59,280 --> 00:52:02,200
And they're going from house to
house and they're going.

985
00:52:03,560 --> 00:52:05,680
We had a report of a disturbance
in the neighborhood.

986
00:52:05,680 --> 00:52:08,440
Somebody's fired a gun.
Did you hear anything?

987
00:52:08,880 --> 00:52:11,680
And I'm so stoned.
I'm like, no, I didn't hear

988
00:52:11,680 --> 00:52:15,520
anything.
And and I go back inside.

989
00:52:16,400 --> 00:52:20,080
You're like, OK.
And then they smile and then I

990
00:52:20,080 --> 00:52:23,360
shut the door and then they go.
And then they come back and

991
00:52:23,360 --> 00:52:25,760
there's like 8 of them at the
front door now because they

992
00:52:25,760 --> 00:52:28,520
realized that everybody on the
block.

993
00:52:28,640 --> 00:52:31,400
And he goes, I just want you to
know that the guys next to your

994
00:52:31,400 --> 00:52:35,200
left, they heard it.
The guys to your right, they

995
00:52:35,200 --> 00:52:37,360
heard it.
The house behind you on the next

996
00:52:37,360 --> 00:52:40,280
street, they heard it.
Why didn't you hear it?

997
00:52:41,000 --> 00:52:43,920
And we had put a cowboy hat over
the bong, so we didn't get him

998
00:52:43,920 --> 00:52:45,120
to see it.
We thought that hit it.

999
00:52:45,760 --> 00:52:49,400
And he's looking at us and we're
and we're, we're gassed, didn't

1000
00:52:49,400 --> 00:52:53,000
know what to do.
Moose, our roommate who was, was

1001
00:52:53,000 --> 00:52:55,840
just coming home from I think he
was working, he was working at a

1002
00:52:55,840 --> 00:52:58,760
gas station and then he dropped
out of college, but he was still

1003
00:52:58,760 --> 00:53:01,320
living there.
He, he comes in, he sees us

1004
00:53:01,320 --> 00:53:03,400
there.
He knows what he knew that I, we

1005
00:53:03,400 --> 00:53:06,400
fired a gun.
He runs, he goes upstairs, he

1006
00:53:06,400 --> 00:53:11,040
comes down and he goes, you lit
off my last M80 man, you suck.

1007
00:53:11,760 --> 00:53:13,320
And he says that right in front
of the cop.

1008
00:53:13,320 --> 00:53:18,640
And the cop goes, oh, and I
said, well, and he and he turns

1009
00:53:18,640 --> 00:53:20,240
to Moose and he goes, do you
have any more up there?

1010
00:53:20,240 --> 00:53:23,120
And he goes, no, I just had that
last one and I was saving it.

1011
00:53:23,120 --> 00:53:26,040
And these assholes lit it off.
And I'm like, oh, yeah, I'm

1012
00:53:26,040 --> 00:53:28,800
sorry.
And we're like, don't you do

1013
00:53:28,800 --> 00:53:29,720
that?
You're not allowed to do that,

1014
00:53:29,720 --> 00:53:31,920
you know?
And he, he gives me the, the

1015
00:53:31,920 --> 00:53:34,400
hardcop thing.
And then they turn around and

1016
00:53:34,560 --> 00:53:38,920
all the cops go away.
And I was just like, I think I

1017
00:53:38,920 --> 00:53:40,840
bought Moose a bottle of liquor
for that.

1018
00:53:41,240 --> 00:53:44,640
That was, I mean, he just, he
saved us from jail because, you

1019
00:53:44,640 --> 00:53:48,400
know, firing off a firearm in.
Was it a registered firearm or

1020
00:53:48,400 --> 00:53:50,280
it was unregistered?
Yeah, yeah, it's registered, but

1021
00:53:50,400 --> 00:53:53,240
it doesn't matter.
Yeah, I I mean, I bought that

1022
00:53:53,240 --> 00:53:53,960
one.
It was 21.

1023
00:53:54,880 --> 00:53:57,200
But it didn't have like serial
numbers scratched off or

1024
00:53:57,240 --> 00:53:58,920
anything, right?
Well, yeah, a couple of them are

1025
00:53:58,920 --> 00:53:59,800
messed up.
That was the.

1026
00:54:00,760 --> 00:54:02,560
Well, that's that can be
conspiracy to murder.

1027
00:54:02,600 --> 00:54:05,520
That's I got.
Well, no, it's just I got, I got

1028
00:54:05,520 --> 00:54:09,160
arrested for me and a guy.
We're doing target practice in

1029
00:54:09,160 --> 00:54:15,600
Dale City in the in the woods
power lines, but not far back

1030
00:54:15,680 --> 00:54:17,160
enough.
And the cops showed up and they

1031
00:54:17,160 --> 00:54:19,160
asked me, they said people are
firing back.

1032
00:54:19,160 --> 00:54:21,400
And I said yeah, yeah, we're
doing target practice because

1033
00:54:21,400 --> 00:54:24,120
you got a gun.
And I said, yeah, he goes, where

1034
00:54:24,120 --> 00:54:25,080
is it?
And I said, it's under the seat

1035
00:54:25,080 --> 00:54:28,400
in my car, you know, oh, can I
see it?

1036
00:54:28,400 --> 00:54:31,680
And he show it to me and they
look at it and my, my serial

1037
00:54:31,680 --> 00:54:38,160
number is messed up all my 357
Magnum and he's trying to run it

1038
00:54:38,160 --> 00:54:40,080
and he can't run it.
And this is like before

1039
00:54:40,080 --> 00:54:42,960
computers and everything.
And he said, and he, and he

1040
00:54:42,960 --> 00:54:44,280
took, he didn't take a picture
of it.

1041
00:54:44,280 --> 00:54:45,680
What did he do?
He wrote it down and wrote a

1042
00:54:45,680 --> 00:54:48,240
little report and all this kind
of stuff like that and said, you

1043
00:54:48,240 --> 00:54:49,680
can't do that.
I said, I didn't realize.

1044
00:54:49,680 --> 00:54:51,840
I thought we, we just came out
here and we, and I showed him, I

1045
00:54:51,840 --> 00:54:54,800
said, we, we loaded up, we put
some cans and they're against a

1046
00:54:54,800 --> 00:54:56,480
hill.
So he knew we weren't going to

1047
00:54:56,480 --> 00:54:58,760
have any problem.
And it's a cubby, so there's no

1048
00:54:58,760 --> 00:55:00,400
way anybody's going to get hurt
or anything.

1049
00:55:01,200 --> 00:55:02,720
And he didn't see the beer that
we had.

1050
00:55:03,040 --> 00:55:08,000
And because you never go, you
never go shooting without beer.

1051
00:55:08,000 --> 00:55:09,680
It's just a it's, it used to be
a law.

1052
00:55:09,680 --> 00:55:11,400
I think the law has been changed
since then.

1053
00:55:11,840 --> 00:55:13,440
But that was that's what we did
then.

1054
00:55:13,440 --> 00:55:15,960
It was just, that was one of
those stories.

1055
00:55:16,040 --> 00:55:19,280
Roommates, aren't they fun?
They sure are.

1056
00:55:19,480 --> 00:55:20,720
Well, I think we're wrapped up
here.

1057
00:55:20,720 --> 00:55:24,640
That's a great note to end on.
Oh my gosh, roommates are fun.

1058
00:55:24,800 --> 00:55:26,960
Wow.
They sure are well as always

1059
00:55:27,280 --> 00:55:29,800
record of myfather.com go check
us out.

1060
00:55:29,960 --> 00:55:33,840
The websites updated as per last
week so go check that out.

1061
00:55:33,840 --> 00:55:35,400
New clips.
I need to start uploading on the

1062
00:55:35,400 --> 00:55:37,640
YouTube again.
We're about like 50 episodes

1063
00:55:37,640 --> 00:55:39,240
behind on the YouTube.
I know, but I did.

1064
00:55:39,240 --> 00:55:40,960
I did a bunch of links to all
our shorts.

1065
00:55:40,960 --> 00:55:43,240
A lot of people haven't seen a
little shorts on YouTube, and

1066
00:55:43,240 --> 00:55:47,000
there's probably 40 of them and
they're like comical things of

1067
00:55:47,000 --> 00:55:50,360
me doing stupid stuff.
And some of it's funny, some of

1068
00:55:50,360 --> 00:55:53,880
it's crazy, some of it's just
probably against the law.

1069
00:55:54,360 --> 00:55:57,480
Yep, it sure is.
It sure is.

1070
00:55:57,480 --> 00:55:58,800
All right, we'll catch you next
Friday.

1071
00:55:58,840 --> 00:56:00,160
See.
You party on bye bye.