Episode 127: Shoes

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Welcome back to another episode
of Record, my father.

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Gosh, 127 of these feeling
great.

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Yeah, we're talking about shoes
today and I was thinking about

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this 'cause I don't know how
many of you out there have wide

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feet, but my pinky toe goes
underneath my foot.

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And I, I was wearing these,
these Solomon shoes, the the

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popular Solomon GTX shoe in
Japan earlier this year and we

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were clocking about 20,000 steps
a day and my pinky toe was just

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going underneath my ring toe.
I guess is the ring toe exist

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probably and just had the
biggest, biggest blister on it.

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But yeah, as I get older, I
don't know.

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I've really high arches too.
My ring tone goes under my my

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other one.
Yeah.

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I mean you got the higher arches
for me because I'm like when I

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used to walk like wet foot on a
on a carpet or on a tile floor,

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I would leave 2 pads when I
stepped like the front of your

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suit and the back.
That's how high my arch was.

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The middle arch never touched.
There was no even line.

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And as I got older and fatter,
the line started to develop and

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then it developed into the rest
of the foot on the side.

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And now it's a whole thought,
you know, fat flat foot.

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But I had but I mean, it's like,
whoa, you see the difference in

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and, and you know, just in that.
And I remember that and you

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know, and The funny thing is, is
like my, my my foot size was a

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lot smaller than now it's like
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Standing at work my feet hurt
more than other people 1 cause

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of a weak person but also I just
feel the ball of my foot and

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then the front of my foot.
I don't feel the middle at all.

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Touch the shoe.
No, there isn't.

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At all.
And I'm like, gosh.

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Makes for great runners.
Yeah, that is true.

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Which I was at one time.
You know, I, I, I don't know.

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I wouldn't say great.
I'd say above average is above

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average is a 5 minute mile above
average.

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I don't know.
I don't know.

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I feel like a lot of 18 year
olds could just do that no

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problem.
I don't know, you know.

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Well, it, I mean, it's, it's
like, I have no idea what's

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average, average mile, what's.
But shoes, what what I I'm a

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loafer guy.
Later in life here at the age of

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26, really old and I started
wearing, oh gosh, what is it

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the, the Ferragamo loafer about
7 years ago.

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And that's a lifetime shoe.
That's a lifetime shoe there.

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Say what you will about
designer, I think it's BS

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personally, but Ferragamo,
those, the leather on the shoe,

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fantastic.
There's also, oh gosh, the brown

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ones I have that I can't
remember.

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OK, here we go.
Very, very good.

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The average mile time for an 18
year old male varies

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significantly by fitness level,
ranging from beginner's time of

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8 minutes to a high level
recreational time of under 5

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minutes.
On average, an 18 to 1330 year

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old male runs a mile in
approximately 7 minutes and 30

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seconds so.
Wow, OK, wow.

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Competitive is 6 or faster.
But when you're thinking about

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mile times, getting 30 seconds
off is hard.

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Like, right?
When you're thinking about

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running times in general, one
second off is yeah, exactly.

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How do you do it better the next
time?

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The next time?
I mean, it's, well, when you

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think about it, it's isn't it
Like it's like weightlifting?

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Yeah, you can, you can you start
out with your little curls and

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stuff like that or your press?
Like you do your bench press and

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you do, you just do the bar and
you put, when you do your 45 LB

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bar and you do that a bunch of
reps.

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And then the next set you do,
you put 5 lbs on the end, 10 lbs

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on the end, 20 lbs on the end,
25 lbs on each end.

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Then you're doing 100 lbs.
And then it's like, OK, so then

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you get it in depending upon
whatever your strength level is,

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you start adding 2 1/2.
He started paying 5-10 each time

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to.
But I I'm more of a Rep guy so I

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don't know how we went from
shoes to weightlifting but.

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I mean, you wear shoes while you
weightlift, don't you?

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I mean, that's that's.
That's that's one of the things

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I'm being sold on.
I, I don't, I subscribe to the

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Arnold Pump Club and they sent
out a, like a weekly e-mail and

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it's always be points to
scientific studies to prove what

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type of things you should do for
physical activity and all these

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different things and want to.
And one of the things they talk

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about is shoes and say that,
that the problem with a lot of

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people that are just, hey, I'm
going to go to the gym workout.

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What are you wearing a track
shoes?

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Well, that's not what you're
supposed to do because you're

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not running Your, your, your,
your, your feet and your ankles

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are up higher than the front
balls of your feet.

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When you when you're
weightlifting, you want flat

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shoes, you want 0° rise in the
front or the back because you

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want the whole set of your foot
lifting the weight, right, I

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mean.
Somewhat true.

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It's.
Just it's just logical, you

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know, and you might want a
little more bounce on the, I

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mean, I don't whatever the side,
you know.

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And so they sell shoes.
Of course they tell you what's

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the best ones.
That, I would say is that you

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have the squat shoes, which have
a heel on them so that you can

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go deeper.
Yeah, so that you can squat

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deeper if your flexibility and
your hamstrings isn't there,

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which is.
Yeah, I don't have it either,

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which is why you know that
wooden board, the angled wooden

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board, which makes you, allows
you to go deeper.

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We have a couple discs We we
have a little squares that

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they're lift and you got one for
each foot and it allows you to

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stand on them.
There you go.

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Yeah, exactly.
That works.

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That works, you know.
Well, I wore skate shoes for a

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long time too.
I think about that for like 13

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years.
I think about that a lot and how

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growing up skateboarding and how
what I why I wear the clothes I

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wear now is definitely heavily
influenced by that and how

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skateboarders influenced largely
in the majority of a lot of

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fashion in the US and worldwide.
I think so.

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Well, they did.
They did, yeah.

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I mean in your group of people
that you deal with, right?

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Well, you know how Carhartt
became something huge, became a

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luxury brand two years ago?
People were wearing Carhartt 8

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years ago in skateboarding
people were Carhartt was

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actually sponsoring
skateboarders and sending new

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clothes.
So it like the double knee

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clothes or?
'Cause you're the cool dudes.

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Exactly.
Everybody wants to be a

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skateboarder until they turn 30
and then that's not cool

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anymore, you know, like that's,
that's what it's all funny.

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Well.
Then you have no knees, you have

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no knees, you have no ankles.
Your wrists are messed up.

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And and I, I just like today.
I, I mean, I'm 66, when I get up

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in the morning and I walk, I can
feel until I get moving a little

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bit.
My ankles are stiff.

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My, all my bodies are stiff.
I mean, all the different joints

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and everything and they're just.
And yeah.

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But back to shoes.
Couple shoe stories.

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I mean, shoes.
I, I remember the earliest pair.

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What's the earliest pair of
shoes you can remember you had?

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I remember the earliest pair of
shoes was when I was in 4th

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grade and mom got a
recommendation from Debbie

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Hughes to go to this place
called Shoe Train and we went to

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Shoe Train because apparently
they had a.

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Shoe train called shoe train.
I don't know why.

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And the guy tied my shoes there.
I got to talk to her about that

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actually and see if she
remembers that because I

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remember that so prolifically of
them trying my shoes on for the

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first time and tying them.
Whereas before, I think when

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you're a a child or a toddler,
it's kind of like, well, his

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chicken nugget foot looks about
that size.

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Let's get him a chicken nugget
and.

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Then we just stick it on you and
you know, if it's, it's got room

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for growth, room for growth.
That's what they always say room

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for growth.
It's like, because if you don't

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get room for growth, it you'll
be, you'll be giving away new

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shoes, you know, but I, I'm not
my first shoes were go to the

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store shoes were Jeepers and
they were tennis shoes and I got

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them at Sears and Sears had a
sit down shoe department.

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And that is the first time that
I had a person bring me shoes

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and put them on my feet and
measure my feet.

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And it was like an experience.
I think it was 7 or 8, you know,

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And I just all of a sudden I
thought we were rich when we

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were, we were not, obviously.
And.

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Obviously.
Well, The thing is, is like, I

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mean, that's The funny thing
about poverty and being rich and

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stuff is like if you live in a
neighborhood and all the houses

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are the same, which is pretty
much what we did, and all the

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people have maybe 1020, they
might have nicer clothes than

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you or maybe a nicer car than
you or something like that.

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But you know what?
If it's so freaking rich, what

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are they doing living across the
street from you?

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Yeah, you know, so.
So at some point, you, you, you

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in life, you will recognize
that.

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You don't recognize that when
you're a kid, you're always

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like, Oh my God, little Johnny
got a full bag of army men.

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And all I got was this little I
got AI got a hot dog to eat, you

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know, or whatever the hell it
is.

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You know, it's always something.
So there's always and chasing

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the brands, you know, you had to
have when I was growing up,

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Converse were a big deal.
Chuck Taylors were a big deal.

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Wasn't Chuck Taylor converse?
It's not the same thing.

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I I don't know, maybe Chuck
Taylor's is part of a converse,

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one of their brands, but you had
to there were there was Converse

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was the company.
Chuck Taylor was the brand.

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It's kind of like.
I see.

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I see.
Nike is the brand and and

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Michael Jordan is the shoe.
Yeah.

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And then you have the Athena or
things like that.

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Yeah.
Yeah, and all the other things.

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And then he's got all the sub
brands because he's, you know,

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made Nike pretty much, you know,
when you start to look at it,

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that that's what drew people
there.

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But I think about through the
years, the shoes I wore, I mean,

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I wore boots for a long, long
time.

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And, and I, I got to tell you,
work in construction.

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You get up in the morning, the
first thing you do in the

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morning put on your boots and
you got to lace them up and you

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got lace and you got the little,
the little, your little Criss

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crosses the hook and you hook
and you hook.

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Any time at the top, you double
knot them and you go to work and

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you're working those boots.
And when they're new, you get

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blisters and you get wet.
If you get, if you get crappy

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boots, they don't last a season,
but you make them last a season.

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So the last, you know, the
little bit of the season your,

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your feet get torn up.
And the season was summer.

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Because this is when I was, you
know, or, or when I didn't, when

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I when I worked through the
winter, that was that that was

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one of those epiphanies about
realizing that this isn't what I

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want to do.
What did you?

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Yeah.
What did you?

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Do in the winter construction.
What was that like?

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Mostly I'm going to say the
different ones I did were I

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worked asphalt, you worked in
the shop and you cleaned

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everything and you washed the
trucks and you did all the stuff

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like that and you and you ground
up the asphalt in the yard to

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get it ready for the spring for
when you could lay the asphalt.

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Anytime you could lay asphalt
you would if you could do pot,

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if it was a warm enough day, you
could, you could, you could do

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potholes, but there was always
something.

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But even that we only worked
until I think I worked till

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November, mid November when I
work concrete.

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I got, I ended up working
probably until early December.

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And we would, we would, if it
was going to be a good day, we

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would pour.
And I got to tell you, and I

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think it had to be 45 or 50 or
something like I don't remember

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the exact temperature to pour
concrete.

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And you would get it more
liquid.

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So it would wouldn't set up as
fast because if you had heavily

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slump is what they used to call
it is the higher the slump, the

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more liquid the concrete we
would get like a lower slump.

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I mean, one of the other you
would get it.

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So you would be more liquid.
So you can move it around in the

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forms and stuff like that.
And they still try to do houses

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as many as they could in the
winter.

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And this is in the early, early
80s when interest rates were

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really high.
So everybody was, you know, they

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didn't want to do block wall
because block wall took three

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weeks and a, a poured wall took
three days.

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You know, and you figure an
insurance, I mean, you figure an

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interest rate.
It's, it's a lot of money

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because you're talking $100,000
piece of property sitting idle

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for an extra 3 weeks.
So it made it, it made a huge

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difference.
It was concrete was hot.

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Poured walls were just
immediate.

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And you still see it to this
day.

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It's it's, it's it's most people
build that I've seen in the

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neighborhoods, in the houses,
they do poured walls because

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it's faster.
And also I'm not sure if it's

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not stronger either, but I'm
imagining that it is because

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solid concrete's more much
stronger than block, right.

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And block is one guy laying one
block at a time, or 10 guys

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playing each day in 10 blocks.
Whereas poured concrete, you

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hook up the forms, you poured a
concrete down the middle, you

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take the forms off the next day,
you know?

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Yeah.
I mean, you got to be.

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It's a little more than that,
but.

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Just a little, little more than
that.

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I remember there was one pair of
shoes, the Nike Lucas Puke ADV,

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that I wore for a year and a
half, two years.

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Maybe the longest shoe I ever
wore in my life.

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Now, a year and a half and kid
times, what's that like?

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Well, I was skating in these
shoes, so it was 19 or 18/18/18

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or 19 and I wore those shoes
because they never tore.

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And the Lucas White.
'Cause you had a white pair, but

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you had a brown pair.
I remember brown pair you had.

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Yeah, they were Adidas, Lucas
Bug ADV, Adidas best skate shoe

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ever made.
I will endorse that 100% 'cause

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I don't know what it is about.
It's a low shoe, it's a gum

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sole.
But at the same time, for for

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some reason, the construction of
the shoe is good.

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Also, never buy shoes on Amazon,
ever.

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Never do that, 'cause I was
doing that and I bought a Lucas

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Bug ADV on Amazon and it was
falling apart in all these

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different ways.
And I'm like, that means that

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Adidas is not the distributor
there.

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Oh.
Remember when we went to

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Vietnam?
Yeah, in the.

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You had shoes made and they
were, and that's where Nike

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makes their shoes.
And you're like, we can make any

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Nike brand.
We'll make it just like, you

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know.
And so we're like one of the

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leather pair of tennis shoes.
Remember, they made you a

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leather pair of tennis shoes.
Yeah, and they were the worst

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things ever.
No support, nothing.

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They were just they they looked
OK.

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They didn't even look that good.
No, they didn't.

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Yeah, they were.
But it was, it was an

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experience.
They built them.

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They made them in a day.
Yeah, that is true.

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Yeah, that is a good point.
Also a jacket.

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It made me a shirt and pair of
pants in a day.

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It was kind of interesting too,
that I think they were more, I

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think Vietnam's more textile,
more clothing than it.

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Is.
Oh yeah, absolutely.

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Gobbling for sure.
I think that that is definitely.

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I thought there was a huge,
there was a they were saying

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that if I remember there we were
in way there were, there's a

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Nike factory there.
Oh, I didn't know that.

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Yeah, so there was there was a
Nike factory there.

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And that's what that was one of
the reasons like, wow, these

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people work at Nike and here.
And I'm thinking like, well, you

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know, if they're working at
Nike, they ain't working here.

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Well, The funny thing about that
too, is I'm reading that Shoe

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Dog book right now that came out
in 2015 about Phil Knight.

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And it's, well, it's not about
him.

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It's his memoir, right?
And he's talking about, he's

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establishing his first thing in
Taiwan right now.

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But even when they were like a
$5,000,000 company, they had

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that money.
It was so weird.

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Like I don't know why 'cause
like the, the bank kicked them

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out for overdrafting on opening
this new factory, All of the

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employees paychecks bounced in
the new factory.

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And he's like, I had to go back
and fix this.

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We had to go get a loan from
Japan.

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And I'm like, there was a lot of
financial error and, and like in

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the creation of Nike, even when
they were like making $10

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million a year.
Yeah, but 10 million is not that

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much.
In the 80s.

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Really.
No, no.

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I mean it was it, it's.
In the 70s it's a good size.

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Company, but it's not like, you
know, I'm thinking in the 80s to

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get to 10 million that would
mean you would need 100

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employees.
Oh, fair enough.

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That's a lot of SO.
It's not that big.

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It's.
A lot of shoe sales too, if you

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think about it.
Oh yeah, yeah.

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I mean, 10 million times.
Let's say they're 50.

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Bucks, I think they were selling
them for like 2550 or something.

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OK, Yeah.
I mean, if you think at that

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level, you're saying let's do
this calculator here because

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that's what we do here, because
we only work in fact.

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Right Only in fact, yeah.
Record of my father fact podcast

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only about. 10 million divided
by what'd you say, 25?

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2550, yeah. 400,000.
Shoes.

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Oh my gosh, yeah.
Divided by.

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Getting shit from Japan too is
crazy 'cause I was their

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manufacturer.
That's that's 1000 pair a day.

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Wow.
Is that crazy?

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Yeah.
But how many stores?

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You know, they have 100 stores.
So that's really.

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They didn't have that many
stores, Really.

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Yeah, Not if they're not.
If they're making that, if

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they're making 5,000,000 bucks,
you don't have a. $100 I think

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they have like 7 stores or
something at this time.

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Maybe they're distributing
through all the others.

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You know Nike was distributing
through, you know 3. 1000

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colleges as well.
They would go to colleges and

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find the track coach and then
sell it to the track.

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Like they did that at the
college that Phil Knight went

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to, and I can't remember off the
top of my head, it's Oregon

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because he had Refontaine there,
who then tragically died in a

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car accident.
Refontaine was one of the first

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Nike people where he died.
Yeah.

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And he wore them to, I can't
remember.

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It was 1980 something Olympics.
Was he the one that did the mile

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in 4 minutes?
Yeah.

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He was, yeah, he was one of the
fastest mile times at all.

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I don't.
Know and we were talking about 5

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minutes being wow fast.
Yeah, like he was like 401 or

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something did.
He bust the four.

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Maybe he maybe he busted the
four in that.

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'Cause there was somebody that
broke the four that made it all

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like, well, it doesn't matter
now. 315, who cares?

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Yeah.
If you bring more and you're

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like, whoa, exactly.
When every second matters.

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I mean, as you get as you get
higher and higher.

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It was the same thing I was that
that's what I was alluding to

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with the weight.
Is it once you get to where you

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can't do any more, adding an
ounce becomes like 1000 lbs.

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Adding shaving off a half a
second, you know, you talk to,

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you start, you hear people
swimming and they're, they're,

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you know, when they're in the
high school, they're shaving off

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tenths of a second.
Nope.

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You're like, whoa, whoa.
So you are like, you know,

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highly, highly, highly
competitive.

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When was the?
Last time you swam I can't even

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remember.
I didn't swam the last time we

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were in water.
For I don't even remember the

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last time I was in water.
I don't like getting wet

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anymore, you know, like I.
Don't mind it in the beach, but

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I mean, I, I wouldn't.
Yeah.

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Well, at beach it's salt.
It's salt water.

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So.
And I mean, your beach sucks out

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there 'cause it's cold as hell.
Well, it's full of sewage run

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off too, and that's the.
Problem.

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I don't care about that
actually.

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Superhuman.
But no, I I don't.

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Toxic Avenger, That's a great.
Movie.

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I need to watch that.
You got to watch Toxic.

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Avenger.
It's cold out here though.

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Like we went to Carmel, CA in
2022 and we swam there and it's

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even colder in the north and it
was an overcast day and it was

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in the 60s.
That's lower than that.

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I think it's, I think it was
like 58 or something or 57.

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No, we the ocean out there is
like in the 60s where is it can

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get up to like 72 or 73.
Yeah, yeah.

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This was, this was really cold.
This was really.

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Which is, which is cold, but if
it's 85 outside it, you can get

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in and out of it.
And I found that when I'm in,

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when water is like, I just hold
my hands up.

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If you hold your hands out,
'cause one of the things that,

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yeah, I, I learned about cooling
off and heating up is that you

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run the water over your wrist,
'cause you have the Blues, blood

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moves out throughout your body
and that cools you really,

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really quickly.
But oh, shoe story when we

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started talking about this, I
got a ping from a a a buddy of

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mine from when I worked in
intelligize Chris Wilunas, and

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he had a shoe story and I don't
I'm going to tell it

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incorrectly, I know, but I
remember that I forgot he was

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having a really bad day.
I forgot what happened and

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everything went South and he was
upset about something and I

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don't remember.
And this is in the early days.

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So this has been like 2010,
11-12, something like that.

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So like 1520 years ago, you
know, when we just start now.

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And he was a researcher and, and
he was working for Intelligize

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and I was there.
I, I started right after that.

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I was already an advisor, but I
wasn't like working.

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But he was having a bad day.
So the CEO, Gary Sanga took him

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out and took him to the shoe
store and bought him a pair of

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shoes.
And it was like Gucci shoes.

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And I mean, of all the things in
the world that you would imagine

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that somebody would do, it was
like it, it, it just, it didn't

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make sense.
It's like, give him a piece of

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party.
You know, it's all these other

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things that and but that was the
most unusual thing that I've

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ever thought of or her.
And you know, it's like you, you

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bought them shoes and they were
they were Gucci.

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They were not like he was so
proud.

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They were just the coolest pair
and wow, amazing.

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I will say that we.
Still tell that story to this

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day as as I'm doing right now.
Exactly.

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A good loafer goes a long way.
A good loafer goes a long, long

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way.
There is something biochemically

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made-up in your head that when
you dress well, that you can

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perform well.
I think that that's true.

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And if you have, it's not even,
you know, what was interesting

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is a, a podcast episode that I
came up with idea that we might

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do next time is the difference
between faith and trust.

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And it's like, so somebody the
other day did this to me where

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it was like, oh, but you have
faith in your car that the

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brakes will work.
And I'm like, no, I have trust

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because I know how brakes are
made.

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There's not.
Faith is something that that you

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have.
It's not based on evidence.

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The trust that I have is based
on that.

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I've used these breaks 100 times
before and I can see them

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working.
That's not faith.

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And I was like, I don't know
what you're talking about.

442
00:23:13,000 --> 00:23:14,160
I don't know what you're
talking.

443
00:23:14,280 --> 00:23:20,880
Faith, Faith.
Is you believe that there's a

444
00:23:20,880 --> 00:23:23,400
guy in the sky?
You could say that faith is.

445
00:23:23,400 --> 00:23:26,360
Because there's no, there's no
evidence that he exists, OK.

446
00:23:26,680 --> 00:23:28,560
It's blind trust, that's what it
is.

447
00:23:28,560 --> 00:23:29,920
It's blind trust.
It's.

448
00:23:30,360 --> 00:23:35,720
It's it is, it is believing and
something without evidence.

449
00:23:36,440 --> 00:23:41,800
I believe that on the other side
of Mars that there is a candy

450
00:23:41,800 --> 00:23:46,760
factory that makes the Mars bars
and we don't know about it.

451
00:23:46,880 --> 00:23:51,360
So I have faith that it's there.
That is faith.

452
00:23:51,600 --> 00:23:55,080
OK, because there's no evidence
that it's there, but there's no

453
00:23:55,080 --> 00:23:57,880
evidence that it's not 'cause
people say there's no evidence

454
00:23:57,880 --> 00:24:00,840
that it's not, or you can't
explain this.

455
00:24:00,840 --> 00:24:02,880
And when you can't explain
something, that just means that

456
00:24:02,880 --> 00:24:04,600
science hasn't figured it out
yet.

457
00:24:04,840 --> 00:24:07,200
OK.
I think that's.

458
00:24:07,200 --> 00:24:10,120
All that means too confused.
Way too much nowadays.

459
00:24:10,160 --> 00:24:13,800
Yeah, way, way too much.
Well, you also see the

460
00:24:14,120 --> 00:24:19,360
disillusion of the OR the
dissolving of church and state,

461
00:24:19,360 --> 00:24:23,120
which is great, I love that.
But as I think about that.

462
00:24:23,120 --> 00:24:25,800
Is that everywhere or is that
mostly just it seems like it's,

463
00:24:25,920 --> 00:24:28,400
it's been a big, it's been a big
push here for the last.

464
00:24:28,440 --> 00:24:36,360
I think, I don't know, I I think
that people use religion as a

465
00:24:36,400 --> 00:24:38,880
control mechanism for.
Other Oh yeah, and a money

466
00:24:39,640 --> 00:24:40,560
maker.
Same thing.

467
00:24:40,560 --> 00:24:42,320
The way the NFL works, Same,
same thing.

468
00:24:42,760 --> 00:24:44,760
Anything works like that?
NFL sell food.

469
00:24:45,320 --> 00:24:48,320
Yeah, 100%.
But I mean, that's the funniest

470
00:24:48,320 --> 00:24:50,880
commercial they have is when
they say we do this just to sell

471
00:24:50,880 --> 00:24:54,760
food and you're like, you know.
$40 hot dog.

472
00:24:54,760 --> 00:24:56,000
I mean, it makes sense.
Yeah.

473
00:24:56,360 --> 00:25:00,520
You know, $40 hot dog.
But shoe wise, I remember

474
00:25:00,520 --> 00:25:03,560
getting track spikes for the
first time and my time changed

475
00:25:03,560 --> 00:25:05,320
drastically.
Yeah, that mattered.

476
00:25:05,560 --> 00:25:07,480
It's crazy.
They really do change,

477
00:25:07,880 --> 00:25:10,160
especially with cross country
spikes as well.

478
00:25:10,360 --> 00:25:13,360
I'm surprised I never rolled my
ankle in those, you know?

479
00:25:13,560 --> 00:25:15,960
Yeah, you know I never.
Because there's just nothing to

480
00:25:16,000 --> 00:25:19,840
them.
Yeah, it's just webbing on top

481
00:25:19,840 --> 00:25:23,640
and then carbon fiber.
Oh yeah.

482
00:25:24,040 --> 00:25:25,960
Under sole or whatever it is,
yeah.

483
00:25:26,400 --> 00:25:28,080
I think we threw those away.
Yeah.

484
00:25:29,320 --> 00:25:35,120
I have, what is it Ultras?
I think now the, and they are,

485
00:25:35,640 --> 00:25:38,240
they're, they're pretty much
designed for old people that

486
00:25:38,240 --> 00:25:44,640
have wide toe boxes and there's
zero rise in the front of the

487
00:25:44,640 --> 00:25:46,280
back.
So your foot is flat.

488
00:25:46,920 --> 00:25:51,520
So it's easier for people like
me that are flat footed now in

489
00:25:51,520 --> 00:25:56,200
our, in our advanced age.
I'm 6/6 and I'm, I need one more

490
00:25:56,200 --> 00:26:02,640
6 and I'm done.
You know, but, but yeah, so, so

491
00:26:02,640 --> 00:26:07,240
for me, it's like they, it's,
it's, it's a shoe that you try

492
00:26:07,240 --> 00:26:10,080
on that's immediately
comfortable, which is rare.

493
00:26:10,520 --> 00:26:12,760
You know, I think about the
different shoes I have.

494
00:26:12,760 --> 00:26:15,840
I have a pair of fried boots.
I, I really, really, really like

495
00:26:15,840 --> 00:26:17,840
them.
I like to wear them.

496
00:26:18,720 --> 00:26:24,560
I absolutely hate to take them
off and I hate to put them on

497
00:26:24,840 --> 00:26:28,120
because I got a damn near
unleash lace them all the way

498
00:26:28,440 --> 00:26:30,520
and I got to pull.
I mean, it's just, and usually

499
00:26:30,520 --> 00:26:31,960
at the end of the day when
you're tired.

500
00:26:32,400 --> 00:26:34,520
I mean, that was the cool thing
about construction boots.

501
00:26:35,040 --> 00:26:38,080
At the end of the construction,
at the end of the day, you just

502
00:26:38,320 --> 00:26:42,960
you untop the tie, you untie the
knot at the top and then whoosh,

503
00:26:43,200 --> 00:26:47,360
you drop it drops down 4 lace
areas and then you can just pop

504
00:26:47,360 --> 00:26:50,280
the shoe off and then you to put
it on in the morning.

505
00:26:50,400 --> 00:26:54,400
You put it on, you tighten the
lace and then you go up through

506
00:26:54,400 --> 00:26:56,480
the little whatever those little
hangout things that.

507
00:26:56,760 --> 00:26:57,800
Oh, I see what you're talking
about.

508
00:26:57,800 --> 00:27:00,400
You know what I'm talking about.
They the, the lace goes through

509
00:27:00,400 --> 00:27:03,920
on each side up three or four of
those and then you tie it at the

510
00:27:03,920 --> 00:27:07,840
top and then you're done.
And it's like, that is so, I

511
00:27:07,840 --> 00:27:13,040
mean, convenience is just an
amazing thing when especially

512
00:27:13,040 --> 00:27:17,760
for footwear, 'cause it's like
it's, it's I, I want really cool

513
00:27:17,760 --> 00:27:20,960
looking, but also I want comfort
to some level.

514
00:27:20,960 --> 00:27:23,760
I'm not, I haven't bought into
the whole female side of the

515
00:27:23,760 --> 00:27:29,320
thing where if it actually hurts
amazing a lot that it must be

516
00:27:29,320 --> 00:27:32,000
good looking, you know?
Well, Speaking of that, I

517
00:27:32,000 --> 00:27:35,040
rediscovered what Chinese foot
binding is recently.

518
00:27:35,160 --> 00:27:38,800
You ever, you ever hear that?
Oh my, I saw photos and I'm

519
00:27:38,800 --> 00:27:41,160
like, Oh my gosh, 'cause when I
they taught us that for some

520
00:27:41,160 --> 00:27:44,720
reason in elementary school
about Chinese foot binding.

521
00:27:45,120 --> 00:27:47,280
And I remember that and they're
like, yeah, they used to bind

522
00:27:47,280 --> 00:27:48,880
their feet.
I'm like, oh, they used to like,

523
00:27:49,200 --> 00:27:50,400
like just.
In Japanese?

524
00:27:50,520 --> 00:27:52,480
Japanese was it?
No, it's Chinese.

525
00:27:52,480 --> 00:27:53,640
I'm pretty sure.
Really.

526
00:27:53,760 --> 00:27:57,680
Let's see.
Let's let's Google here.

527
00:27:57,680 --> 00:28:03,680
Hold on, Chinese football.
I'm 90% sure it was Chinese.

528
00:28:04,880 --> 00:28:07,360
Chinese foot binding was a
painful centuries old practice.

529
00:28:07,360 --> 00:28:09,400
Let's see, did the Japanese do
foot binding too?

530
00:28:09,560 --> 00:28:12,080
A lot of them did.
A lot of the Asian countries

531
00:28:12,080 --> 00:28:14,000
did.
What binding was a painful

532
00:28:14,000 --> 00:28:17,160
Chinese custom from the Sung
dynasty 10th century to the

533
00:28:17,160 --> 00:28:21,280
early 20th century, where young
girl's feet were broken and

534
00:28:21,280 --> 00:28:23,400
tightly wrapped to create tiny
Lotus feet?

535
00:28:24,000 --> 00:28:26,240
No, the Japanese did not
practice foot binding.

536
00:28:27,480 --> 00:28:29,600
Oh, it was a Chinese tradition.
Ha ha ha.

537
00:28:30,520 --> 00:28:35,120
They started binding their
there's doing, you know, binding

538
00:28:35,120 --> 00:28:37,680
and where they push the toes
underneath, breaking the bones,

539
00:28:37,680 --> 00:28:41,920
wrapping them with clock to
prevent growth, to achieve feet

540
00:28:41,920 --> 00:28:47,120
around 3 or 4 inches long.
Yeah, there's photos, yeah.

541
00:28:47,320 --> 00:28:48,960
I don't understand how you walk
like that.

542
00:28:48,960 --> 00:28:52,000
I don't really get it, 'cause
it's like your whole foot is

543
00:28:52,040 --> 00:28:55,480
like a it's a wedge, basically.
It looks like a wedge.

544
00:28:55,480 --> 00:28:58,440
There's no toes or anything it.
Became a prerequisite for

545
00:28:58,440 --> 00:29:00,600
marriage.
Yeah, it can.

546
00:29:00,720 --> 00:29:05,280
It will confine women at home.
I mean, it did all the things

547
00:29:05,440 --> 00:29:10,640
that you would think and it.
But after China fell in 1911 and

548
00:29:10,640 --> 00:29:14,880
stronger bands after the
communist revolution in 49, some

549
00:29:14,880 --> 00:29:17,080
rural areas still did it in the
30s.

550
00:29:17,800 --> 00:29:21,480
It's now seen as barbaric.
You know, when are they going to

551
00:29:21,480 --> 00:29:25,160
stop doing circumcision?
Oh my gosh, whacking guys,

552
00:29:25,160 --> 00:29:30,080
little wee wee's, you know,
because somehow that's it's, you

553
00:29:30,080 --> 00:29:32,600
don't want your guy to have an
anteater, you want him to have a

554
00:29:32,600 --> 00:29:34,120
helmet.
Well, there's the whole thing

555
00:29:34,120 --> 00:29:36,960
too, that it's like a father's
like, well, mine should look

556
00:29:36,960 --> 00:29:39,480
like his, right?
Mine should look like his.

557
00:29:39,520 --> 00:29:42,440
And also, if you talk to the
majority of women in the world,

558
00:29:42,640 --> 00:29:44,880
they don't like the uncut.
It's true.

559
00:29:45,160 --> 00:29:48,000
Yeah, I was going to say.
The majority of women thinks it

560
00:29:48,000 --> 00:29:50,120
looks weird unless they're from
Europe.

561
00:29:50,120 --> 00:29:53,520
Unless they're from Europe.
I actually know somebody that

562
00:29:53,520 --> 00:29:55,880
had has changed.
No, he didn't in.

563
00:29:55,960 --> 00:29:58,040
His late 20s.
Oh my God.

564
00:29:58,480 --> 00:30:00,840
And I'm like, no way, he said.
It was the most painful thing he

565
00:30:00,840 --> 00:30:02,400
ever did.
I would never do that.

566
00:30:02,480 --> 00:30:04,480
I wouldn't.
Never because he had an anteater

567
00:30:04,480 --> 00:30:07,800
and and he said every girl was
just freaked out by the

568
00:30:07,800 --> 00:30:09,800
anteater.
And I'm like, really?

569
00:30:10,040 --> 00:30:12,720
Because he came to the US and he
came from, you know, Eastern

570
00:30:12,720 --> 00:30:16,720
Europe and he was like, whoa,
that's crazy.

571
00:30:17,080 --> 00:30:18,920
But the fact he would tell me
this is even funnier.

572
00:30:18,920 --> 00:30:21,800
But good friends, you know,
Yeah, yeah, I know.

573
00:30:21,800 --> 00:30:23,000
I have a lot of people that tell
me shit.

574
00:30:23,000 --> 00:30:26,720
That's just, that's the reason I
have I can talk now and tell all

575
00:30:26,720 --> 00:30:29,520
these stories and, you know,
there's there's minimal

576
00:30:29,520 --> 00:30:33,440
embellishment, believe me.
Minimal, Minimal, minimal,

577
00:30:33,440 --> 00:30:36,360
minimal.
You know what I remember shoe

578
00:30:36,360 --> 00:30:39,000
wise?
I remember the Vibrams where you

579
00:30:39,000 --> 00:30:42,880
had the toes in each pocket.
It was like 5 toe shoe.

580
00:30:43,520 --> 00:30:44,120
Was that?
Shoes.

581
00:30:44,120 --> 00:30:45,760
Or was that socks?
Those were.

582
00:30:45,760 --> 00:30:48,360
Socks I guess first.
Oh, yeah.

583
00:30:48,480 --> 00:30:50,920
And then they had, they had the
foot ones that people would wear

584
00:30:50,920 --> 00:30:53,480
to the gym and you'd look at
them like, all right, monkey

585
00:30:53,480 --> 00:30:55,480
boy.
Yeah, I always love to.

586
00:30:55,480 --> 00:30:58,280
I, I would love to wear a pair
of those just to see what

587
00:30:58,280 --> 00:30:59,960
they're like, you know, I don't
know.

588
00:31:00,560 --> 00:31:03,240
I I.
Before those came along, they

589
00:31:03,240 --> 00:31:06,480
had socks and girl.
They were like girl socks that

590
00:31:06,520 --> 00:31:09,080
they covered individual toes.
Yeah, yeah.

591
00:31:09,080 --> 00:31:10,520
Yeah.
I think that's the.

592
00:31:10,520 --> 00:31:13,040
Women have always had, I mean,
for some reason men want to

593
00:31:13,040 --> 00:31:16,360
destroy their feet, you know?
There's something about.

594
00:31:16,360 --> 00:31:19,600
They got to be taller, they got
to be on stilts, they got to

595
00:31:19,600 --> 00:31:21,600
wear this, They got to wear the
weirdest.

596
00:31:21,720 --> 00:31:25,720
It's like every single fashion
designer who designed shoes as a

597
00:31:25,720 --> 00:31:26,920
man.
Isn't that kind of weird?

598
00:31:27,280 --> 00:31:28,960
The.
Majority of them are like, it's

599
00:31:28,960 --> 00:31:31,360
very strange.
Oh, we should make them

600
00:31:31,360 --> 00:31:33,600
comfortable.
What?

601
00:31:34,600 --> 00:31:35,680
I know.
I mean, you make a billion

602
00:31:35,680 --> 00:31:37,440
dollars if you made a
comfortable woman champion.

603
00:31:37,600 --> 00:31:41,640
Well, you, you, you have well,
but you have the mentality.

604
00:31:41,640 --> 00:31:45,480
I think that there's a lot of
women that that that think and

605
00:31:45,480 --> 00:31:51,480
have been sold for hundreds of
years that standing on spiky

606
00:31:51,480 --> 00:31:55,040
things makes them sexier because
they're taller.

607
00:31:55,280 --> 00:31:57,760
And if they weigh a little more,
it makes them thinner.

608
00:31:58,120 --> 00:32:01,200
You know, there's all these
things that have been pounded

609
00:32:01,200 --> 00:32:05,040
into little girls heads forever
that say, hey, you don't look

610
00:32:05,040 --> 00:32:07,640
good if you don't, if you don't
have high heels, if you don't

611
00:32:07,640 --> 00:32:09,880
have this, if you don't have
that and you look at them and

612
00:32:09,880 --> 00:32:12,880
you're like, Ari mean you ever
put high heels on?

613
00:32:13,240 --> 00:32:17,080
No, no, I mean, my mom had the
Cladato Hawk.

614
00:32:17,080 --> 00:32:21,400
She was, she had size 10 so I
could put my foot in her shoe

615
00:32:21,440 --> 00:32:24,040
and stand.
And it was like me stand on a

616
00:32:24,040 --> 00:32:27,960
skateboard, same thing, which is
exactly the same thing.

617
00:32:27,960 --> 00:32:29,840
It was just like, are you
kidding me?

618
00:32:29,840 --> 00:32:32,320
How in the world?
And then when you see people

619
00:32:32,320 --> 00:32:41,640
walk fast and then like DC, they
have a, they have a race and

620
00:32:43,600 --> 00:32:47,880
it's in DuPont and they have all
of the, what do you call it, all

621
00:32:47,880 --> 00:32:51,400
of the servers.
They come and they gave them

622
00:32:51,400 --> 00:32:55,360
like two or three glasses of
champagne and they put it on,

623
00:32:55,680 --> 00:32:58,960
you know, on a carrier, you
know, whatever plate, whatever

624
00:32:58,960 --> 00:33:03,200
they they and then they have a,
a race and each one of them has

625
00:33:03,200 --> 00:33:07,800
high heels on and they have a
race to see if they can, you

626
00:33:07,800 --> 00:33:10,120
know, whoever wins, I guess, I
don't know, wins champagne or

627
00:33:10,120 --> 00:33:12,240
whatever the hell it is, but
it's a big deal.

628
00:33:12,240 --> 00:33:16,440
It happens every year.
It's like it's the something I

629
00:33:16,440 --> 00:33:17,520
don't, I can't even think about
it.

630
00:33:17,520 --> 00:33:21,200
It's ADC spiked till champagne
race or something.

631
00:33:22,120 --> 00:33:25,200
That's kind of a.
That almost reminds me of the

632
00:33:25,400 --> 00:33:29,880
Oktoberfest ones where, yeah,
they stack all the beer glasses

633
00:33:29,880 --> 00:33:32,120
and they have to walk around
with the beer glasses on it.

634
00:33:32,520 --> 00:33:36,400
You know what I'm talking.
About This is the High Heel Race

635
00:33:36,400 --> 00:33:40,320
is an annual iconic event Dupont
Circle neighborhood Washington

636
00:33:40,400 --> 00:33:42,680
typically held on Tuesday before
Halloween.

637
00:33:42,680 --> 00:33:46,320
It features costume drag Queens
and community members racing

638
00:33:46,320 --> 00:33:48,960
down 17th St. while wearing high
heels.

639
00:33:48,960 --> 00:33:55,040
The event is a major celebration
of the annual race.

640
00:33:55,720 --> 00:33:57,280
Competitors are costume.
Drag.

641
00:33:57,280 --> 00:33:58,840
Is it on pride?
It sounds like it would be a

642
00:33:58,840 --> 00:34:00,560
pride day thing.
That's what it sounds like.

643
00:34:00,560 --> 00:34:02,600
It's the week before Halloween.
I don't know what I don't know.

644
00:34:02,600 --> 00:34:04,080
Pride.
I think that is that is pride,

645
00:34:04,080 --> 00:34:05,400
right?
No Pride's in the summer.

646
00:34:05,480 --> 00:34:07,280
Pride's in the summer.
Must be, must be.

647
00:34:07,560 --> 00:34:10,639
Yeah, yeah.
Well, this is interesting when

648
00:34:10,639 --> 00:34:13,760
you start to look at all the
different things that, you know,

649
00:34:13,760 --> 00:34:15,520
are based on it and that we
don't.

650
00:34:15,639 --> 00:34:19,120
I mean, what are what?
I mean American shoes, when you

651
00:34:19,120 --> 00:34:21,639
think about wonderful shoes, I
think of Italian leather.

652
00:34:21,639 --> 00:34:28,000
I mean, the ones I have, I have
a pair of Santorini, something

653
00:34:28,000 --> 00:34:31,920
like the Santolini, something
like that Italian shoe loafers

654
00:34:31,920 --> 00:34:34,679
that are really nice.
And then of course I have my

655
00:34:34,679 --> 00:34:42,199
What are the Lamborghini ones?
Oh, Lamborghini ones.

656
00:34:42,320 --> 00:34:44,199
Not Gucci.
Ferragamo.

657
00:34:45,239 --> 00:34:47,040
Oh yeah, you do.
Yeah, I think I have the same

658
00:34:47,040 --> 00:34:49,040
issue.
So we can, you know, Father,

659
00:34:49,040 --> 00:34:50,400
son.
I didn't realize you had the

660
00:34:50,400 --> 00:34:51,760
same.
I thought you had Gucci ones for

661
00:34:51,760 --> 00:34:53,000
some reason.
Oh, Gucci.

662
00:34:53,000 --> 00:34:55,040
Yeah, it was Gucci.
I got I, I guess it was Gucci.

663
00:34:55,040 --> 00:34:57,680
It's whatever the the wife may
be by Charleston.

664
00:34:57,680 --> 00:35:01,560
And I bought them and I wore
them once and they're sitting

665
00:35:01,560 --> 00:35:05,680
and I, I, I mean, I have my, you
know, what is it?

666
00:35:05,960 --> 00:35:08,320
Wife killer shoes?
You don't know Maglys.

667
00:35:08,320 --> 00:35:10,760
Yeah, yeah.
You know what advice I gave

668
00:35:10,760 --> 00:35:12,920
myself recently?
Well, just wear them.

669
00:35:13,000 --> 00:35:14,800
Just wear them.
Just wear it.

670
00:35:14,880 --> 00:35:17,280
Just wear that thing.
Wear that thing that you think

671
00:35:17,280 --> 00:35:19,400
is too fancy to wear.
Wear it.

672
00:35:19,640 --> 00:35:21,280
Just do it.
Just just wear it 'cause they're

673
00:35:21,280 --> 00:35:23,360
shoes.
'Cause you'll never wear them if

674
00:35:23,360 --> 00:35:25,840
you don't do it.
And it's an object.

675
00:35:26,200 --> 00:35:29,560
It's an object in your head,
your manifestation of oh, this

676
00:35:29,560 --> 00:35:31,880
is too expensive to wear, then
you will never wear it.

677
00:35:31,960 --> 00:35:36,040
My first wedding every 10 years.
Yeah, I had the light brown

678
00:35:36,040 --> 00:35:38,760
ones, the one that OJ Simpson
used to always wear and all of

679
00:35:38,760 --> 00:35:41,720
his things, and they became
known as the wife killer shoes.

680
00:35:42,200 --> 00:35:45,200
And then I had bought a pair
when my wife and I went to

681
00:35:45,240 --> 00:35:47,560
Italy.
And this is before he hacked his

682
00:35:47,560 --> 00:35:50,480
wife up.
So and I and I wore them.

683
00:35:50,480 --> 00:35:52,360
I loved them.
Great.

684
00:35:52,400 --> 00:35:55,560
And then after I wore them,
she's like, you sure you should

685
00:35:55,560 --> 00:36:00,040
wear those?
Yeah, I was thinking about

686
00:36:00,040 --> 00:36:03,040
chopping your head off the
night, dear, but I guess I can't

687
00:36:03,040 --> 00:36:04,800
wear my shoes, so it's not going
to happen.

688
00:36:05,720 --> 00:36:09,880
You ever see the interview with
him in the, what is it, the news

689
00:36:09,880 --> 00:36:12,400
reporter?
And she was like, oh, I was 10

690
00:36:12,400 --> 00:36:16,640
minutes late to my meeting with
OJ, and he decided to surprise

691
00:36:16,640 --> 00:36:18,560
me.
And she opens the door and he

692
00:36:18,560 --> 00:36:22,960
has a knife and he's like.
No.

693
00:36:22,960 --> 00:36:24,840
He's out, dude, and this is
real.

694
00:36:25,080 --> 00:36:27,560
It's crazy.
It's super crazy.

695
00:36:28,160 --> 00:36:29,080
Oh my gosh.
And this is.

696
00:36:29,080 --> 00:36:31,000
Before Is this after he whacked
his?

697
00:36:31,080 --> 00:36:31,640
Wife.
Yep.

698
00:36:32,040 --> 00:36:33,640
After.
Oh wow.

699
00:36:33,640 --> 00:36:36,720
After Yeah.
They said he almost cut her head

700
00:36:36,720 --> 00:36:39,680
off.
Yeah, and now he's dead.

701
00:36:39,840 --> 00:36:42,080
He's dead now.
Yeah, well, they went.

702
00:36:42,080 --> 00:36:45,000
They pursued him forever after
that, you know.

703
00:36:45,440 --> 00:36:48,400
He never really recovered well.
He got arrested a second time

704
00:36:48,680 --> 00:36:52,240
'cause he was stealing his own
football card out of somebody's

705
00:36:52,240 --> 00:36:56,160
house.
No, no hotel, hotel room.

706
00:36:56,160 --> 00:37:00,480
He went to a hotel room 'cause
people had his memorabilia, they

707
00:37:00,480 --> 00:37:04,680
had his football, they had a a,
you know the one he did 2000

708
00:37:04,680 --> 00:37:07,480
yards and they had his helmet
and then they had a bunch of his

709
00:37:07,480 --> 00:37:11,160
other stuff and it was stolen,
he believed.

710
00:37:11,720 --> 00:37:14,400
And so he shows up at the hotel
room with a gun.

711
00:37:16,600 --> 00:37:19,280
Not a not a not I mean.
Especially after you're already

712
00:37:19,280 --> 00:37:22,560
off for murder.
Not a not a good idea.

713
00:37:22,720 --> 00:37:28,800
And he got and and usually, you
know, Grand Theft Auto or grand

714
00:37:28,920 --> 00:37:32,200
larceny, which is what it was.
And there was a question about

715
00:37:32,200 --> 00:37:36,320
intent that the gun wasn't
loaded or whatever, that most

716
00:37:36,320 --> 00:37:37,920
people would have got a whole
lot less.

717
00:37:37,920 --> 00:37:41,680
But the judicial system want
wanted to punish him 'cause he

718
00:37:41,680 --> 00:37:45,880
got away what every what a lot
of people believe was murder and

719
00:37:46,960 --> 00:37:49,280
but I mean.
Do you think you did it?

720
00:37:50,240 --> 00:37:52,680
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
I think there's just too much,

721
00:37:52,680 --> 00:37:54,320
there's too much evidence that
points towards it.

722
00:37:54,640 --> 00:37:59,040
The problem is we had, well, it,
well, it's becomes questionable

723
00:37:59,040 --> 00:38:03,560
because the evidence they had
nowadays that I'm looking at

724
00:38:03,560 --> 00:38:07,040
what's happening in the judicial
system and like even at the

725
00:38:07,040 --> 00:38:10,000
Department of Justice where
they're manufacturing stuff and

726
00:38:10,000 --> 00:38:14,240
they're finding out years later
that police withheld stuff

727
00:38:14,240 --> 00:38:16,400
prominently for black people.
Oh yeah?

728
00:38:17,080 --> 00:38:19,840
Well, that's the whole Bob to.
Keep them in jail, you know, or

729
00:38:19,840 --> 00:38:22,520
to try them.
And it's like, hey, you killed

730
00:38:22,520 --> 00:38:24,440
this person.
It's like I wasn't there.

731
00:38:24,640 --> 00:38:26,080
And then they're like, well,
we're not going to let your

732
00:38:26,080 --> 00:38:30,040
witnesses speak.
No jury of your peers.

733
00:38:30,040 --> 00:38:32,320
You know, and then, well, can I
have adna test?

734
00:38:32,320 --> 00:38:35,600
Well, now 3, five years later,
it's like, well, the DNA that,

735
00:38:35,760 --> 00:38:39,080
you know, the guy raped her
wasn't his, you know, and

736
00:38:39,080 --> 00:38:40,520
they're like, oh.
Exactly.

737
00:38:40,520 --> 00:38:42,480
There was that guy that was
falsely imprisoned for 10 years,

738
00:38:42,680 --> 00:38:43,680
Yeah.
There's not.

739
00:38:43,720 --> 00:38:46,000
It's not there's.
There's like a hundreds,

740
00:38:46,000 --> 00:38:47,600
thousands of.
People and it and it's and it's

741
00:38:47,600 --> 00:38:53,200
a rarity when one of the falsely
imprisoned is a white person.

742
00:38:53,200 --> 00:38:56,120
Damien Echols, There you go.
You know, so you got one.

743
00:38:57,520 --> 00:39:00,680
Yeah, I mean, that's the that's
the sad thing is, is that our

744
00:39:00,680 --> 00:39:04,960
system is just so based upon
it's wins.

745
00:39:04,960 --> 00:39:08,080
But it The thing is, is it
seems, well, it's case it's.

746
00:39:08,080 --> 00:39:09,760
Closed.
That's what it is.

747
00:39:09,760 --> 00:39:12,240
That's what it's all about.
As case is closed because it's.

748
00:39:12,240 --> 00:39:14,840
Also remember it's case is
taken.

749
00:39:16,120 --> 00:39:18,400
I thought it was case.
You don't have to take a case.

750
00:39:18,840 --> 00:39:22,280
Yeah.
I mean, I have to as a as a

751
00:39:22,280 --> 00:39:27,120
prosecutor, if you've done
something wrong, I have to

752
00:39:27,160 --> 00:39:33,040
recommend it to a grand jury.
OK, If I don't recommend that

753
00:39:33,040 --> 00:39:37,760
Zac Brown, white Lily white rich
kid goes to grand jury.

754
00:39:37,760 --> 00:39:42,760
It don't happen if if people,
unless I get outside pressure, I

755
00:39:42,760 --> 00:39:44,720
push the grand jury, it comes
back.

756
00:39:44,960 --> 00:39:48,560
Well, OK, I prosecute at that
point, depending upon how much

757
00:39:48,560 --> 00:39:50,760
money and how many attorneys you
have.

758
00:39:51,120 --> 00:39:54,560
And I'm not going to, I'm not
going to refer something to

759
00:39:54,560 --> 00:39:56,920
grand jury that I think I'm
going to lose, right?

760
00:39:57,560 --> 00:40:00,520
That's a good point.
And, and The thing is, is that I

761
00:40:00,520 --> 00:40:05,320
can put three people, 3 black
people on death row for every 1

762
00:40:05,320 --> 00:40:07,720
white person I can put away for
five years.

763
00:40:08,000 --> 00:40:10,680
I mean, that's just fact.
You know, you can look at

764
00:40:10,680 --> 00:40:13,960
whatever you want in the
judicial system, but we tend to

765
00:40:13,960 --> 00:40:19,200
believe that we that for some
reason that that's that's and

766
00:40:19,200 --> 00:40:23,000
it's like, why is that?
You know that.

767
00:40:23,080 --> 00:40:25,640
And So what are you going to do?
Who are you going to do?

768
00:40:25,640 --> 00:40:27,880
I mean, if you're a prosecutor,
you're going to indict the black

769
00:40:27,880 --> 00:40:31,640
guy first only because you're
based on wins.

770
00:40:32,320 --> 00:40:36,360
And if you withhold evidence
five years from now when you had

771
00:40:36,360 --> 00:40:39,640
found DNA at the scene and you
didn't want to do ADNA test and

772
00:40:39,640 --> 00:40:44,440
you kind of hit that shit if you
get caught, you know what they

773
00:40:44,440 --> 00:40:49,720
say what shouldn't have done it
bad guy, they let you, they let

774
00:40:49,720 --> 00:40:53,720
the black guy free and then or
they might after he fights for

775
00:40:53,720 --> 00:40:56,480
trial or something like that,
but nothing happens to the

776
00:40:56,480 --> 00:40:58,240
prosecutor there.
There's no, there's no

777
00:40:58,240 --> 00:41:02,200
prosecutorial background justice
where they, I mean, it seems to

778
00:41:02,200 --> 00:41:07,440
me that if I hid evidence that
made you go to jail for years,

779
00:41:07,960 --> 00:41:13,400
my ass should be in jail for at
least a good percentage of the

780
00:41:13,400 --> 00:41:16,080
amount of time that you were in
jail, because it might put you

781
00:41:16,080 --> 00:41:19,120
personally in jail.
You know, and you see this all

782
00:41:19,120 --> 00:41:22,880
the times where the cops lie.
You know, it's not like, and,

783
00:41:22,880 --> 00:41:26,680
and everybody has got this
overwhelming trust and it's

784
00:41:26,680 --> 00:41:31,080
like, I don't, I, I don't, I
don't, I don't believe them.

785
00:41:31,080 --> 00:41:32,960
I don't trust them.
I don't think there's anything

786
00:41:33,040 --> 00:41:35,640
anymore that they do.
They're, they're, I think

787
00:41:35,640 --> 00:41:37,920
they're no different than
anybody else out there.

788
00:41:38,360 --> 00:41:41,840
Yeah, no, I I completely agree.
I get paid on wins.

789
00:41:42,480 --> 00:41:44,400
Guess what?
I'm going to help you win.

790
00:41:44,640 --> 00:41:47,600
Yeah, it's a it's an industry
like any other.

791
00:41:48,040 --> 00:41:51,240
It's definitely an industry like
any other where it's a money

792
00:41:51,240 --> 00:41:53,160
making industry.
It's also an extension of

793
00:41:53,160 --> 00:41:56,480
slavery, 'cause they always take
these people in the low

794
00:41:56,480 --> 00:42:00,280
socioeconomic classes where they
also don't even have access,

795
00:42:00,280 --> 00:42:03,360
really easy to win any of their
files or any sort of personal

796
00:42:03,360 --> 00:42:05,200
information.
And then they make them

797
00:42:05,200 --> 00:42:06,800
disappear.
And I mean, yeah.

798
00:42:06,800 --> 00:42:09,800
And what is it, $60,000 per
prisoner or something that they

799
00:42:09,800 --> 00:42:11,680
make a year off them?
Crazy.

800
00:42:11,680 --> 00:42:16,400
Think about that crazy.
But flip flop wise, I got lucky.

801
00:42:16,400 --> 00:42:20,400
Flip flops, Yeah, two years ago.
I'm not going to lie, it took a

802
00:42:20,400 --> 00:42:23,600
long time to break them in.
I don't think I got them fully

803
00:42:23,600 --> 00:42:27,040
broken in until this last year.
Like maybe no, not even this

804
00:42:27,040 --> 00:42:29,840
last year. 4 months ago, four
months ago, they finally got

805
00:42:29,840 --> 00:42:32,440
broken.
And when we went to Mongolia and

806
00:42:33,640 --> 00:42:34,880
'cause you know what it felt
like.

807
00:42:34,920 --> 00:42:36,800
They're flip flops.
They're flip flops.

808
00:42:36,800 --> 00:42:39,320
I've never liked the big toe
thing sticking down the middle

809
00:42:39,320 --> 00:42:41,000
between my big toe and my.
That doesn't.

810
00:42:41,000 --> 00:42:43,080
Bother me.
My nose picker toe well bothers

811
00:42:43,080 --> 00:42:43,760
me.
That one.

812
00:42:43,880 --> 00:42:48,400
Is the iron nose picker toe?
It's a longer one.

813
00:42:48,560 --> 00:42:49,960
I like that.
I'm looking at mine right now.

814
00:42:50,480 --> 00:42:53,920
I do like that mine are huge,
but what was it?

815
00:42:53,920 --> 00:42:55,920
Yeah, the second one can get all
the way in your nose.

816
00:42:55,920 --> 00:42:57,560
The first one can.
It just bounces.

817
00:42:57,560 --> 00:43:01,040
Yeah, it feels like grip tape on
the underside of my foot that

818
00:43:01,040 --> 00:43:03,720
these flip flops, for like the
first year and a half I had them

819
00:43:03,760 --> 00:43:04,920
like it.
You just get.

820
00:43:04,920 --> 00:43:08,720
Chafing, and I don't know about
you, but I've never been chafed

821
00:43:09,000 --> 00:43:11,320
on the bottom of my foot from
flip flops.

822
00:43:11,320 --> 00:43:13,800
I find that ridiculous.
That's super absurd.

823
00:43:13,800 --> 00:43:15,240
I have.
What are those?

824
00:43:16,440 --> 00:43:19,560
Where they they're kind of a
fancy brand Terra.

825
00:43:20,480 --> 00:43:21,880
Tiva.
Tiva.

826
00:43:22,000 --> 00:43:25,480
Exactly.
I have those that are I I just I

827
00:43:25,480 --> 00:43:28,160
really like the style.
There's a ton of Tivas I've had

828
00:43:28,160 --> 00:43:30,520
that I hate.
These fit me.

829
00:43:30,520 --> 00:43:34,360
They're this black rubber.
They are easy to put on, easy to

830
00:43:34,360 --> 00:43:36,600
take off.
They get wet, water flows right

831
00:43:36,600 --> 00:43:39,640
through them.
I really like those.

832
00:43:39,640 --> 00:43:44,120
I love my Crocs, which I laughed
at for years and made fun of

833
00:43:44,120 --> 00:43:46,880
people that had Crocs and
thought anything about them.

834
00:43:46,880 --> 00:43:50,040
But then you made bought me a
pair.

835
00:43:50,520 --> 00:43:52,000
Now you have the minion Crocs,
Yeah.

836
00:43:52,040 --> 00:43:54,040
You bought me the you bought me
the yellow ones, and then you

837
00:43:54,040 --> 00:43:55,560
bought, did you buy me the mini
ones?

838
00:43:56,160 --> 00:43:57,720
Yeah.
Yeah, I buy you the minion ones.

839
00:43:58,160 --> 00:44:00,400
And now I got Minion ones, and I
wear those out, and people just

840
00:44:00,400 --> 00:44:04,640
look at me like, those are so
cool.

841
00:44:05,440 --> 00:44:06,800
Yeah, I can get away with it
because I'm old.

842
00:44:06,840 --> 00:44:09,440
You know, That's fair, I think.
I think younger people can't get

843
00:44:09,440 --> 00:44:12,960
away with, you know, you can't
go down and get naked in the

844
00:44:13,680 --> 00:44:16,320
local fountain and take a shower
there and then leave.

845
00:44:16,320 --> 00:44:19,160
Oh, that's just Phil.
He just does that on Tuesdays.

846
00:44:19,360 --> 00:44:20,800
He's old.
I can't wait.

847
00:44:21,280 --> 00:44:24,720
I'm excited for that.
That's a privilege, Yeah.

848
00:44:24,720 --> 00:44:27,400
That's a privilege that you want
to grow up to and be able to do.

849
00:44:27,400 --> 00:44:29,960
You know, you think about that.
But I love my Crocs.

850
00:44:30,040 --> 00:44:37,320
Crocs, I've got probably, I mean
my leather shoes, I got the

851
00:44:37,320 --> 00:44:40,240
Bruno Magli that I wear, the
black tie UPS that are just

852
00:44:40,360 --> 00:44:43,840
really smooth, comfortable.
And I mean, we were talking

853
00:44:43,840 --> 00:44:45,960
about, you were talking earlier
that you really like the slip

854
00:44:45,960 --> 00:44:49,560
ONS.
Well, Michael, who's the guy

855
00:44:49,560 --> 00:44:54,160
that wrote the book about the
S&L savings and loan crisis?

856
00:44:54,920 --> 00:44:58,400
Oh, Michael Berry or something?
The same guy that wrote the

857
00:44:58,400 --> 00:45:01,520
thing about the market break in
2012.

858
00:45:01,520 --> 00:45:02,760
The Big short is that.
What you're talking about?

859
00:45:03,000 --> 00:45:04,480
The Big Short, same guy wrote
that.

860
00:45:04,880 --> 00:45:07,560
Well, he wrote about Michael
Milken and he wrote about the

861
00:45:07,560 --> 00:45:10,440
bankers, the investment bankers.
Michael Lewis.

862
00:45:11,080 --> 00:45:13,440
Yeah, Michael Lewis was the guy
that wrote the book.

863
00:45:13,880 --> 00:45:18,920
But if you read the book that he
wrote on Mike, on Michael Milken

864
00:45:19,400 --> 00:45:22,640
Milken and moved Drexel Burnham
Lambert out to the West Coast

865
00:45:22,640 --> 00:45:25,200
and they had West Coast and they
and they didn't have West Coast

866
00:45:25,200 --> 00:45:27,360
hours, they had New York hours.
So they'd get up and go to work.

867
00:45:27,360 --> 00:45:29,400
They'd be at work by 5 and
they'd be off by 1.

868
00:45:30,000 --> 00:45:36,800
And but they all wore, they all
wore slip ONS.

869
00:45:37,840 --> 00:45:41,560
And at that time, and I've heard
this over and over and over and

870
00:45:41,560 --> 00:45:44,880
over that no one takes you
serious if you wear slip ONS.

871
00:45:45,000 --> 00:45:47,640
You have to wear tie shoes.
If you don't have tie shoes,

872
00:45:48,920 --> 00:45:51,360
then you're then you're just not
a serious person, you know,

873
00:45:51,360 --> 00:45:54,920
which is kind of, I mean, it's
kind of weird that they think

874
00:45:54,920 --> 00:45:57,200
that and it's like that.
And they made fun of them and

875
00:45:57,200 --> 00:46:00,080
that and that was what he was
saying is, is that when no one's

876
00:46:00,080 --> 00:46:03,440
taking milk and serious until
the, you know, he bought a, you

877
00:46:03,440 --> 00:46:07,000
know, a $500 million company and
now that's nothing.

878
00:46:07,000 --> 00:46:11,680
But in 1986, five $100 million
company was a big company.

879
00:46:12,360 --> 00:46:15,840
You know, Yeah, the world has
changed, but isn't it funny?

880
00:46:15,960 --> 00:46:18,480
Now everybody wears loafers
because loafers are the best.

881
00:46:18,840 --> 00:46:21,800
What do you think about shoes?
Shoes that that that you have

882
00:46:21,800 --> 00:46:23,720
right now?
You got a favorite pair?

883
00:46:24,800 --> 00:46:27,600
The Chelsea boot I have, I've
been wearing for the last six

884
00:46:27,600 --> 00:46:31,240
years and that's finally showing
some wear.

885
00:46:31,240 --> 00:46:35,080
On Do you have a leisure suit?
Leisure suit I have a Sport coat

886
00:46:35,080 --> 00:46:37,640
that I can wear, but not.
A No, but that's not a leisure

887
00:46:37,720 --> 00:46:40,480
suit.
You got to have a a polyester

888
00:46:40,680 --> 00:46:42,400
suit.
A leisure suit is like a

889
00:46:42,400 --> 00:46:46,600
polyester thing with the pants
in the top that match like a

890
00:46:46,600 --> 00:46:52,440
lime green because those boots
you wear or what old guys wore

891
00:46:52,440 --> 00:46:55,280
in the 60s.
Oh, I see what you're talking

892
00:46:55,280 --> 00:46:57,360
about.
Yeah, and they would wear those

893
00:46:57,520 --> 00:47:00,320
full on boots and, and when I
saw you had those, I was

894
00:47:00,320 --> 00:47:02,440
laughing.
And there's a derivative those

895
00:47:02,440 --> 00:47:06,480
called go go boots.
And yeah, go go boots were worn

896
00:47:06,480 --> 00:47:11,560
by Bobby Sherman, the Monkeys.
And I think The Beatles had them

897
00:47:11,560 --> 00:47:15,480
for a while in the 60s.
But they're called go go boots.

898
00:47:15,480 --> 00:47:17,400
And they were those slip on
boots.

899
00:47:17,760 --> 00:47:21,200
And it's just so funny.
And then you wear them like 40

900
00:47:21,200 --> 00:47:24,200
years, 50 years later.
Yeah, these are cool.

901
00:47:25,040 --> 00:47:29,640
It was the idea that I think The
Beatles had some sort of impact

902
00:47:29,640 --> 00:47:31,880
too on those because they wore
them all the time.

903
00:47:31,880 --> 00:47:33,720
Yeah, but comfort is the thing.
They're you.

904
00:47:34,040 --> 00:47:37,320
Know they're easy to put on they
they have good arch support too.

905
00:47:37,320 --> 00:47:38,840
Really really good arch.
Support.

906
00:47:39,360 --> 00:47:42,680
Unlike every single shoe I wear
on those actually have the best

907
00:47:42,680 --> 00:47:45,160
arch support.
And they require.

908
00:47:45,440 --> 00:47:48,360
Little to no effort, little to
no effort at all.

909
00:47:48,600 --> 00:47:51,440
I don't really wear the Crocs
anymore because I don't go near

910
00:47:51,440 --> 00:47:52,840
water.
So it's like, what's the plan?

911
00:47:52,840 --> 00:47:56,000
I just everything I wear here,
what I wear more of than

912
00:47:56,000 --> 00:47:59,120
anything are I wear my ultras
because I hike.

913
00:48:01,320 --> 00:48:05,360
I mean, I do a couple miles a
day, four days a week, maybe

914
00:48:05,360 --> 00:48:09,720
five days a week with the dogs
or I hike with buddies and I

915
00:48:09,720 --> 00:48:11,280
wear my tennis shoes every time
I used.

916
00:48:11,280 --> 00:48:14,600
I have AI, have the great boots,
you know the boots, those green

917
00:48:14,600 --> 00:48:17,280
boots, that these are the ones
that killed.

918
00:48:17,520 --> 00:48:18,880
Who was it?
Not Obama?

919
00:48:19,040 --> 00:48:20,600
Who's the other guy?
Osama.

920
00:48:21,080 --> 00:48:23,880
Osama bin Laden, They advertised
them.

921
00:48:24,080 --> 00:48:26,440
At the Solomon G twos or
something.

922
00:48:26,440 --> 00:48:28,000
Like that.
Yeah, yeah, these are the, these

923
00:48:28,000 --> 00:48:30,480
are the boots that they wore
when they killed him.

924
00:48:30,480 --> 00:48:32,040
It's like, yeah, that's good
enough for me.

925
00:48:32,320 --> 00:48:36,040
But anyway, they're they're
they're really uncomfortable,

926
00:48:36,040 --> 00:48:38,080
really good boots.
But they weigh a little bit,

927
00:48:38,080 --> 00:48:41,360
whereas the ultras are really
light and it's easier to walk in

928
00:48:41,360 --> 00:48:43,280
them.
And unless I'm walking through

929
00:48:43,480 --> 00:48:47,040
water or it's cold, screw that,
I don't need it, you know?

930
00:48:47,480 --> 00:48:52,840
And then the around here I have
my Olakis that is that what they

931
00:48:52,840 --> 00:48:54,480
are, the Hawaiians.
What is?

932
00:48:54,800 --> 00:48:56,880
That yeah.
And they're like a leather,

933
00:48:57,200 --> 00:49:00,520
they're a leather shoe.
They're really they're they're

934
00:49:00,520 --> 00:49:04,880
slip ONS and I thought they were
trash, but I got to tell you

935
00:49:05,720 --> 00:49:10,040
they are perfect.
They are a really a perfect.

936
00:49:10,040 --> 00:49:12,200
Do you mean to show you?
I'll show you one second.

937
00:49:12,880 --> 00:49:19,120
Right there, keep talking.
Bring them back here.

938
00:49:19,560 --> 00:49:23,880
But I remember when I was a kid
around 5 or 6, I used to have a

939
00:49:23,880 --> 00:49:25,640
pair of cowboy boots.
Oh, here they are.

940
00:49:26,000 --> 00:49:30,720
Oh, oh, oh, that's interesting.
Almost remind.

941
00:49:30,720 --> 00:49:32,120
These guys.
Dude.

942
00:49:34,040 --> 00:49:40,040
I bought those probably 8 months
ago and the fact that the rear

943
00:49:40,040 --> 00:49:45,880
goes down like that means, means
that you can slip into them

944
00:49:46,120 --> 00:49:49,680
really, really easily.
They're warm, they have a, they

945
00:49:49,680 --> 00:49:52,760
have a hard soul.
I can wear them in the backyard.

946
00:49:52,800 --> 00:49:54,960
I'm aiming there.
I can wear them in the store and

947
00:49:54,960 --> 00:49:58,320
A and a pinch.
I try to be a little better

948
00:49:58,320 --> 00:50:00,520
dressed up even though I'm old
and retired and I don't give a

949
00:50:00,520 --> 00:50:02,920
shit, you know, for the most
part.

950
00:50:02,920 --> 00:50:05,400
But but to some degree I try to
change that.

951
00:50:06,440 --> 00:50:11,240
If anybody's got any shoe
stories want to hear Chris, if

952
00:50:11,240 --> 00:50:14,040
you want to tell that story,
correct me on it.

953
00:50:14,040 --> 00:50:16,680
I would love to hear corrections
and we can issue them in the

954
00:50:16,680 --> 00:50:20,600
next one.
That was my the Gucci loafers

955
00:50:20,600 --> 00:50:23,880
that Luna's got.
Life's a party, man.

956
00:50:24,080 --> 00:50:28,040
Well, we're at almost an hour.
So sounds good to me.

957
00:50:28,200 --> 00:50:29,640
All right, we'll catch you next
time.

958
00:50:30,040 --> 00:50:32,000
Yeah.
Here in the record of my father.

959
00:50:32,000 --> 00:50:34,640
Go check out the website and
TuneIn every Friday.

960
00:50:34,920 --> 00:50:37,480
All right, we'll see you later.
Bye bye skiing at Beaver Creek.