Episode 121: Halloween

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Welcome back to another episode
of Record My Father.

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Today we're going to be.
Talking about Halloween, I

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remember I dressed up as a
Viking some number of years ago

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and it was maybe my best costume
of all time.

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That was good.
I would, I think if you were to

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look at, look at your, your,
your costumes, that's probably

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one of your, one of your top,
but what else have you dressed

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up as?
I don't even remember, I think

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some number of years ago, my
last costume was Flying

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Squirrel.
I I've been lazy these past

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couple years.
I've been doing a NASCAR jacket,

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you know.
Yeah, yeah.

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But I, I, I'm, I'm doing the the
old retired guy.

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Yeah.
Just don't shave and I come to

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the door all creepy and hand out
lollipops and heroin capsules.

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That's an everyday kind of
costume.

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That's a costume that you put on
every day.

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But I'm costume wise, I'm trying
to remember what other ones I

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did.
I think I was a a pumpkin first

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time.
Well, when you, when you, when

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you think about Halloween, if I,
if I think back to my childhood,

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the different, I mean, I can't
remember that many.

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I remember in probably 2nd
grade, a bunch of guys on the

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block dressed up as women.
OK, So, you know, and I remember

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I had my mom's shoes on and, you
know, went out there and I

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dressed out as an old lady.
And there were a couple people

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that dressed up as old women,
but of a different color, which

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was, you know, this is the 60s.
So racism was OK then And maybe

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coming back, I'm not sure.
It's not a good thing.

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But let me think what else?
What other kind of costumes?

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We were like army man.
I mean, just very, very, you

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know, grab a gun off the shelf.
And then the mom would say no

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bullets.
And then you would take that and

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that would be your outfit.
You know I.

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Remember when I was a kid, they
started doing the the guns need

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to have orange tips for school
or for or any of the sort,

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because that was a problem.
Yeah.

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I remember when when I went over
your a friend of yours house

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Pakistani and you guys were in
the front yard and you had

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pistols that look like 40 fives
and you were doing airsoft

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shooting each other and you had
ripped the orange tips off so it

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looked like you had guns.
No, those didn't have orange

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tips, ever.
He had a full metal Luger that

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it looked like a handgun.
It was.

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I looked.
At that.

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And you guys were like middle
school maybe?

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And this is when all the cops
were starting to shoot kids.

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Yeah, that was like.
And then I was like, no.

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No, no, you can't do that.
Can't do that anymore.

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No, no, no, you can't do that
'cause you guys were on a public

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corner.
You know you were not.

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This wasn't in way in that
somebody's backyard.

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You were running.
Around in front of the yard

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which in his house right up.
If you had an asshole neighbor,

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they would have just, they would
have killed you, you know, They

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would have just come over, shot
you 'cause you had a gun.

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And you stop.
And no kid in his life has ever

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stopped.
When he said stop, he turns and

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looks at you and then you shoot
him, you know, And it's, it's

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well, you didn't listen.
It's like he's 7.

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What the hell do you want, you
know?

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Exactly.
I remember the the falsified

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notion of razor blade apples.
Oh yeah.

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Which never were a thing.
I, I don't know why.

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And then I remember even more
recently, they said they're

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putting marijuana in the candy
so that your kids are going to

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get high.
And I'm like, I think that this

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is just contrived propaganda
from the cigarette industry and

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to convince.
Wonder.

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Yeah, I started that propaganda.
Because no self respecting drug

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addict would ever share their
stash with anybody else.

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And if they did, they wouldn't.
I mean kids.

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That's just weird.
That makes no sense.

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That's that's just beyond silly.
I'm sure there are people out

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there that put things in apples
and things and apples became no

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more you wouldn't give away like
fruit and stuff that people

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would when.
I was a kids pre packaged.

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Yeah, everything was pre
packaged.

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Everything was pre packaged.
It's all like, you know, you

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can't give them something, you
know, I'd give them a bottle of

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pills and people always had a
problem with that, but I don't

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know why.
That's odd.

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I don't know why they had a
problem with it and.

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I just say, hey, don't worry,
It's it's good and plenty, you

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know?
I don't like good and plenty.

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I don't know.
What he does because it tastes

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like that, it tastes like
Tylenol.

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Well, what's the?
Difference between good and

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plenty and Mike and Ike's.
No good and plenty is peppermint

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and and what's the other one you
had it good and fruity is

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closer.
That one's good.

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I like that one.
But.

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But Mike and Ike doesn't have a
sugar coating on the outside,

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whereas they have the crackly
coating on the outside for good

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and fruity.
So that was the difference.

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You know, it wasn't that much,
but I don't even know if the

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same company owns them and I
don't know, Mike and Ikes has

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sort of stayed out there.
I haven't seen good and fruity

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in a while.
But if you look online, I'm sure

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you can find any candy you want
and it doesn't taste like it

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used to because I I'm a I'm a
fireball addict.

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Which I never understood.
I probably admit to that.

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Well, for me, you know, when I
work out, if I do something and

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it's like a 20 minute task and I
can't smoke while I'm doing it,

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so I can't smoke a cigar, I
will, I, I will take a fireball,

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throw it in my mouth and then
start working out or start

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running or start doing
something.

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And it takes my mind off of it
because it's hot enough and

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you're thinking about the heat
and you're not thinking about

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the tasks that you're doing.
And now the ones that they have

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are, are not all that Sinead.
They're not all that spicy and

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they taste like there's some
kind of weird sugars type

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substance in them to make them
taste that way.

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And you just don't know what
that is.

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And it's just, it's, they're
just not good anymore.

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I haven't found them.
And I went to Brock's, I went to

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all the different companies and
they're, they're trash.

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And that was your.
First costume ever other than

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the the cross dressing one.
I remember the cross dressing,

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but I don't.
You know what's weird?

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I started thinking back to what
my costumes were.

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I was a clown, but that wasn't
until I was married.

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Well, you were Shrek one year,
right?

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No, mom.
Mom was Fiona.

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Who are you?
No, I was.

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You're a pirate.
I was a pirate.

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Yeah, I was a full pirate one
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Another time I was an axe
murderer because I had I had the

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the guy that the gallows guy
because I had a Black Hat over a

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black face mask over the top and
the big thing and I had a the

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double edged axe that I was
supposed to chop people's heads

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off.
You know when you go to the

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gallows and they chop your?
Head.

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That's what it was supposed to
be.

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Or not the gallows.
You go to the guillotine or the

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chopping block or whatever.
I was that one year I was.

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We went to a party when after we
had become clowns and both of us

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stayed kind of dressed up as
psycho clowns.

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We took pictures of that.
And that's kind of funny.

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I remember my a buddy of mine
came to the party and he was,

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he's that he was, he was dressed
as the Exxon Valdez.

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Yeah, a ship coming out his
chest with a big oil spill.

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That's really funny.
I like.

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It was just like originality and
costumes were really kind of

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cool.
But I remember, you know, the

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80s was a really big time, 70s
and 80s in particular in

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Georgetown, if you if you're
familiar with Washington, DC.

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They still do the bar crawl, you
know that.

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Well, there used to be a ton of
bars there.

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Now there's like a ton of
stores.

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And I think is is restaurant
bar.

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That's the only one I can think
of.

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But there's very few pubs that
there used to be.

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There was this saloon, there was
a Crazy Horse, there was

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Gunchers, there was Max, there
was what the heck was on the

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corner?
Desperados is the club my

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brother worked at.
Across the street was the cellar

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door that was there.
Up around the corner was the 3rd

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addition.
Winston's was there.

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I remember going there during
the week, going to Crazy Horse

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and drinking rusty nails.
Oh my God.

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What is a rusty nail?
It's it's really rot gut bourbon

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mixed with some other stuff that
tastes bad.

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With a nail.
They get you hammered really,

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because it's, it's really, it
bites you, it hits you in the

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head.
It's just, and when you're in

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your 20s, it's like I was in my
20s.

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I might have been 1920 right at
that time because I'm old enough

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that we aged in.
We were able to drink liquor in

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DC as soon as we turned 18.
You know, everywhere else it was

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beer and wine, and then liquor
came along and, you know, just

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sort of added to the massive
drunkenness of younger children

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because life is good when you
can't find your shoes.

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You know what I remember so
specifically about Halloween is

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the SpongeBob Halloween movie.
Great movie with the Flying

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Dutchman.
You remember that one?

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Oh my God.
I.

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Love that.
That was really good.

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Oh my God, that was within the
first 3.

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Seasons.
Remember those?

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Powerful seasons of that show.
I think the scariest movie ever

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watched.
Well, there's a couple of them.

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The scary ones were Exorcist,
the first one.

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But it was weird to watch it
because I watched it and I was

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probably like 16/17/16 probably.
And I watched it Mary Washington

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College, my brother was down
there and we went to the local

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theater there, small campus just
off campus.

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And it was filled with college
students and everybody had beer.

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Everybody smuggled in two 40s
each.

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So everybody's in the audience
and they're smoking weed and

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they're passing dudes around.
I'm 16.

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I'm so for me, it's just like,
wow, this is heaven.

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And they're all drinking beer.
And I am literally scared to

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death.
I am scared to death of this

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because it's like, you know,
the, the whole exorcist thing

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just kind of caught me and made
me go, whoa, this is some scary

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stuff.
You know, And my brother's

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saying that he went to, they
went to Day of the Dead, the

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night at Halloween, came home
and he's downstairs in our house

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in, in Woodbridge and a buddy of
Seth come by at like 12:30

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because Seth got off work at
midnight or 11:00 or something

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like that.
And he, and back then people

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would just walk in our back door
and say, Hey, hey, hey.

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Well, Edwin had seen Day of the
Dead or Night of the Living

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Dead, the original, the George
Romero, the really if you see

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that and black.
I know what you're talking

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about, yeah.
And and he hears this person

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fiddling with the back a window,
couldn't get in the window.

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He went over to the other window
because they climbed through the

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window.
And then he went to the back

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door and black door was
unlocked, which is like, why

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would you go to the window?
That's silly.

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And he comes in and Edwin hears
them and he picks up.

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We had an axe, a battle axe.
It was it had a full size head

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on it, but it had a really short
like 18 inch handle.

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So if you you could do some
damage.

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He was right around the corner
and a buddy assess is there and

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walking and he's like ready to
hit him and waste him and and

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before he walks to the doorway,
he goes SAP, SAP and Edwin stops

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and he turns the corner and he
looks at Edwin and Edwin's like

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with the with with the ethics
looking at.

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Him.
Oh, was that like that?

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I don't know.
That's interesting.

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So was that like one of the
first horror movies you ever

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saw?
I guess.

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Oh, yeah, yeah.
Back in back in the olden days,

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we would, you know, you needed
to be scared.

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You know, my more recent one, I
think I, I, I, I remember, I

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think I took a girl to it.
I was frightened to death was

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which was I was trying not to be
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Was Halloween the first
Halloween when Jason Was it

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Jason, whatever the hell his
name was, when he kept waking

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up?
Yeah, yeah, Jason the oh, wait,

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that's different though.
Mike Myers is the yeah, the

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Halloween guy.
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Yeah, but at the end of the
movie when they shoot him a

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bunch of times that he falls off
the thing and they and they look

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run to the balcony and they look
down and he's laying down there

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and he's dead.
And they're like.

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And then the movie's coming to
an end and they're talking, and

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then they look back out and
he's.

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Scary.
And I was just like, I was

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freaked out by that, that just
like, Oh my God, he's out there.

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He's out there looking for us.
But you were talking about

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costumes.
And I went to our favorite

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perplexity and printed out all
those great things about

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Halloween.
The best telling costumes, most

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iconic cost costumes by year.
You ever heard of Rumi?

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Rumi.
No.

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From K pop Demon demon hunters.
I have not.

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That's for this year, and that
is neon purple hair, combat

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boots and a glowing sword.
I don't even know who that is.

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Last year was supposed to be
Shrunken Head Bob which I don't

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know about that. 2023 was weird
Barbie.

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You know that was just the
Remember the Barbie movie.

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20/20/22 was Huggy Wuggy from
the horror game Hoppy Play time.

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2021 is Reya and the last
Dragon.

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Oh, and then 2020, I remember
Joe Joe Exotic from Tiger King.

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Oh, that was huge when I
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That was very big.
See, some of these are bigger

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than the others.
It's like 2019 was VSCOVSCO girl

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based on the breedy Beachy
social media trend, blah, blah

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blah.
I don't you know, I'm see, this

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is from this is from artificial
intelligence.

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This is from perplexity.
This is, you know, I did best

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costumes ever for Halloween.
You don't like thinking, huh?

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2018 Skull trooper from
Fortnite.

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I mean I don't remember that.
2017 UMA from Descendants

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2/20/16 I do remember Harley
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Oh, that was huge.
Yeah, the.

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'Cause she was the Suicide
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I think some of these are huge,
you know.

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I mean, they have the classics,
you know, Spider Man, Superman,

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Wonder Woman, Jack Sparrow,
Chuck.

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You are getting funnier, I feel
like.

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Well, they're going.
To do, they're all, everybody's

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doing that and they're they're
kind of an uproar, but they're

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not an uproar about doing the
Charlie Kirk thing.

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'Cause if I was.
Around the blood coming off

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them.
Is somebody doing that?

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Yeah, yeah.
There's a lot of people doing

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that and that's going to, you
know, be altercations or

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whatever.
I don't know.

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It's well that.
Was years and years ago, there's

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a woman that dressed up as a
Boston Marathon bombing victim

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and then she went to her office
party like that.

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And I don't understand how you
can wake up that's just morning

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and think that that's a good
idea.

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No, that would be.
That's a good idea.

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I think another person wanted
Saddam Hussein or something and

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that.
That didn't go over well either,

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as you can imagine.
Remember Harry when he went to a

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Halloween party and he was
dressed up as an s s officer?

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Who's Harry?
Prince Harry.

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Oh, what did he do that?
Yeah, you gotten a lot of shit

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for that.
I wonder why?

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When you start to think about
the different, how do?

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You think that's a good idea?
I I don't get it, you know, and

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now we have.
People get funny either.

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I don't know that's.
A little they just had somebody,

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they just had somebody do that
in Atlanta and he went, I saw

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that, you know, and you're like.
And then he got.

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What do you think?
Need as you should.

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Yeah, you know if.
We If I see a person dressed

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like that, I will punch them in
the face right away.

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I don't even wait the.
Whole thing, it's like it's

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illegal in Germany but it's
legal here and I don't get that.

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I don't get why the First
Amendment covers hate speech.

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I don't understand how it could
cover that.

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It makes no sense.
Why would you?

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Well, I mean, would you dress up
as a rebel?

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No, I wouldn't.
Either.

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That why would it?
Why?

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I don't understand a good
occasion to do that, right?

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I don't understand why you would
do that.

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It's not.
Well, we had.

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It's not witty.
It's not funny.

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Like, no, that's what
Halloween's about.

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It's about being witty, funny
and sexy, right?

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Well, in the 80's, the 80's, the
biggest, the biggest thing in

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the 80s was Michael Jackson and,
and people that were white, you

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know, because he sold across all
genres.

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Yeah, people dressed up in
blackface, you know, because

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they want, Yeah, they want to be
Michael Jackson, you know?

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I've seen new, new Michael
Jackson costumes where they

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don't do that.
Yeah, well, they don't they.

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Just wear the glove with the
the.

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Yeah, and you know who, you know
who they, you know, but the

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whole the whole thing is and and
I know there's cultural

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appropriation, but screw that.
It's Halloween.

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We're not talking about.
You're not stealing the I I

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don't see it that way.
OK, It's, but it's I think we're

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in a time where there's certain
things that are really

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insulting.
Is is that, is that as insulting

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is walking around with with the
Charlie Kirk bloody thing coming

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out of your side?
I mean, yeah.

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Yeah, that's, I mean I.
Mean that's, that's, that's

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you're, you're trying to be
incendiary, right?

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No, you are.
You're trying to get a reaction.

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Yeah, you're trying to get a
reaction from people that don't

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agree with you.
You're you're trying to stick.

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You're sticking your nose.
You're sticking your finger in

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their eye.
You know, if they have

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something, it would be kind of
like dressing up like Jesus.

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Exactly.
You know, Hey, I got, I got

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nailed today.
Do you have a hammer?

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You know whatever you know.
People do Jesus, but they don't

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do it with the the crucifixion
very often.

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Where he's carrying the cross
around.

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So they did.
Yeah, I think there was a.

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Guy that did that a couple
Halloweens ago and it did not go

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over well.
They would say that he was

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carrying around the giant cross
and it did not go over well.

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No, people don't.
People don't they're, they're,

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they're willing to let a lot of
things go.

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But you know, when you, when you
go to the heart of the religion,

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you got a you, you, you got a
tiptoe.

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You know, Muhammad, if you, if
you have his picture that, that

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that's a sin.
And they can.

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I don't know if it's a fatwa or
whatever they do.

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The Charlie Hebdo thing, yeah.
Yeah, they went and they, you

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know, he posted his picture and
did it.

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But there's a lot of people have
done it subsequently, you know?

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Oh yeah, that has dressed up as
him for how?

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Oh yeah.
Yeah, yeah, Al parked in an

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episode on that and.
Was there ever a fatwa on them?

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I, you know, I don't.
I don't think so.

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Well, that was The Who was it
that got stabbed in the eye

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recently?
Who wrote the the Satan.

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Salman Rushki.
Yeah, there we go.

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He got stabbed, but he was also
they they did they not set off a

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bomb another time?
No, I, I think they just stabbed

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him in the eye 'cause it was
about a decade or two decades

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that it took them to find him at
a point and then for somebody to

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actually act.
But he has a new book out called

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Knife, which is interesting.
But there's also the thing that

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when you read that book, I can't
remember exactly what it's

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called.
It's the Satanic Virtues or

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something like that.
It.

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Verses.
Verses, There we go.

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I was close.
Has nothing to do with Islam.

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It's very interesting.
If you read the book, you don't

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see really contextually how it
makes sense.

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And it was just a like, like
many Bible verses, it's kind of

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interpretation.
It's an interpretation of making

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fun of Islam or maybe just
outing Islam as a force, which

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is what people thought it to be.
But I don't know.

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I.
Don't think Christians do.

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And then and then Muslims think
that Christianity's fake and

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then that exactly think that
both of them are fake, you know,

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and everybody, you know.
What is it that Ricky Gervais

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says about religion?
How many religions are there?

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There's 3971.
How many do you believe in?

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I don't believe in one.
The true religion, it goes well,

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I just believe in one less than
you.

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Well.
There was the whole thing that

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Solomon Rush you talked about.
Have you ever heard the story of

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the shadow?
It's about a man and one day he

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sees his shadow appear and then
his shadow is accomplishing

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things on the side and outdoing
him at every move.

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Like this man wants to fall in
love with this woman, his shadow

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does it instead.
This man wants to become king.

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The shadow is able to be king
and then the shadow ends up

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killing him at the end.
And this whole idea is exactly

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what Solomon Rushd's entire life
has been about.

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It's this vision that he's anti
Islam and what have you.

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That's his shadow.
But in reality, he's just an

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author trying to make a living,
and he's just an artist.

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I think he might be I, I'm not
sure.

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I'm not too sure about.
You see that and you're like.

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Yeah, no, but it that that story
is very, very interesting.

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You see that your alter ego to
the world and the way that

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you've been kind of analyzed by
the general public is a

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completely different version
than who you actually are in

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real life.
And I think that is a a

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fascinating kind of.
Wow.

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Yeah.
I'm looking at like the infamous

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couples Heidi Klumman and her
partners Shrek and Fiona.

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Yeah, Shrek and Fiona is.
Huge and Lydia Beetlejuice and

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Lydia Love Island.
Yeah, they came out with a new

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Beetlejuice movie.
I never watched it.

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Did you watch the new one?
Yeah, it.

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Was I didn't like the first one,
really.

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I thought the first one was all
right.

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But the the my favorite part of
that one was the claymation worm

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man.
When they go through the door

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and you have that, it's not CGI,
guess it is CG, but it's really

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miniatures.
It's stop motion miniature.

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That's what it is.
Yeah.

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And I love that in the original
movie.

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I thought that was phenomenal.
That was my favorite part of the

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entire thing.
The use of miniatures in Tim

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Burton's movies time and time
again have been so impressive

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and really kept me interested.
Same thing with Edward

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Scissorhands, right?
And that, that kind of Dolly

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shot at the beginning of the
town.

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But that's a miniature.
That's a miniature town that

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they built.
Practical effects are going

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away.
And it's really sad 'cause

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there's artistry in that.
There's a, there's a profound

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amount of artistry that's going
to disappear if we allow it to.

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I mean, people say AI is a tool,
but it's a tool to get people

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fired and for them to no longer
work.

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I mean, if you want to say that
that's a tool.

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And people keep telling me, oh,
Zach, what's for film makers

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that don't have access to grand
budgets to do things?

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I'm like, I partially agree with
that, but I partially also

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00:22:25,200 --> 00:22:28,800
disagree that I don't know.
You should be able to assemble a

449
00:22:28,800 --> 00:22:31,840
team that's willing to make a
film for a little bit amount of

450
00:22:31,840 --> 00:22:33,080
money, but you should still pay
people.

451
00:22:33,080 --> 00:22:34,120
I don't know.
I don't know.

452
00:22:34,120 --> 00:22:36,120
If you can't pay people, should
you be making it in the first

453
00:22:36,120 --> 00:22:37,280
place?
I don't know.

454
00:22:38,640 --> 00:22:44,040
Yeah, that's when we think about
people that hire only prisoners

455
00:22:44,040 --> 00:22:45,920
to do the work for pennies on
the dollar.

456
00:22:45,920 --> 00:22:47,960
Exactly.
So they can, you know, mail

457
00:22:47,960 --> 00:22:50,200
order places are infamous for
that.

458
00:22:50,400 --> 00:22:52,520
You don't even get trick or
treat this year anymore, do you?

459
00:22:53,160 --> 00:22:56,240
We might get one but I bought I
bought about $40.00 for jeans

460
00:22:56,480 --> 00:22:58,560
so.
I I saw you have the king size

461
00:22:58,680 --> 00:23:00,480
candy, all of them.
It's so funny.

462
00:23:00,720 --> 00:23:02,920
I got huge amounts.
No, I just love.

463
00:23:02,920 --> 00:23:04,680
I love the whole idea of seeing
the kids.

464
00:23:04,680 --> 00:23:07,320
When we were over at Pulmonary
Dr. I loved it.

465
00:23:07,320 --> 00:23:11,040
We would get about 15 or 20
trick or treaters, and the

466
00:23:11,040 --> 00:23:13,600
wife's like, why'd you buy $100
worth of candy?

467
00:23:13,600 --> 00:23:17,000
And I'm like, man, you know, I
want a kid when he comes to my

468
00:23:17,000 --> 00:23:18,400
house.
They think like wow.

469
00:23:20,120 --> 00:23:21,480
This neighborhood I'm not going
to.

470
00:23:21,600 --> 00:23:24,160
I'm not going to this guy's
house, ever.

471
00:23:25,600 --> 00:23:27,640
This neighborhood's always been
interesting to trick or treat.

472
00:23:27,640 --> 00:23:31,840
And because I remember this guy
left a bowl on his front porch,

473
00:23:32,080 --> 00:23:34,720
but he has a private gate.
So you needed to go past the

474
00:23:34,720 --> 00:23:38,000
gate on the side of it and walk
down a hill that was about like

475
00:23:38,000 --> 00:23:41,080
half a mile to his house.
And then there was a bowl there

476
00:23:41,080 --> 00:23:43,040
and says please take one.
We, of course we took it all,

477
00:23:43,320 --> 00:23:47,840
but yeah, now that was very,
very interesting that he'd even

478
00:23:47,840 --> 00:23:48,560
leave anything out.
We.

479
00:23:48,640 --> 00:23:50,400
Used to.
We used to hit the Bayview

480
00:23:50,400 --> 00:23:55,240
apartments and there were
48121616 apartments to the

481
00:23:55,240 --> 00:24:00,280
building and you would you go to
the the basement floor and

482
00:24:00,280 --> 00:24:03,880
there's 122 on the sides, two in
the back.

483
00:24:04,280 --> 00:24:05,800
And that that was the way it was
all the way up.

484
00:24:06,120 --> 00:24:11,360
And usually two or three people
would be doing candy on each

485
00:24:11,360 --> 00:24:16,080
floor.
So you could hit like 10 places

486
00:24:16,120 --> 00:24:18,680
in every apartment building, but
you run up and down the steps

487
00:24:18,680 --> 00:24:21,160
and there'd be tons of kids just
crazy.

488
00:24:21,160 --> 00:24:25,000
And the thing that's weird is
that they had more traffic than

489
00:24:25,000 --> 00:24:27,800
anyone and they were like the
poorest people, you know, the

490
00:24:27,800 --> 00:24:31,200
people living in the apartments
where, you know, they were

491
00:24:31,200 --> 00:24:34,680
working Quantico or for Elvar.
And they're like, he's like,

492
00:24:34,680 --> 00:24:37,200
wow, I got no kids.
And now I got to feed these

493
00:24:37,200 --> 00:24:39,760
little rats coming over.
And we were coming over from we

494
00:24:40,120 --> 00:24:43,280
were in the acres in Beverly and
the baby apartments in the acres

495
00:24:43,280 --> 00:24:44,800
as well.
But you would see this and it's

496
00:24:44,800 --> 00:24:47,360
just like, but we would do that.
And it's the same thing here.

497
00:24:47,840 --> 00:24:49,640
People go over at Kings Manor
which are the.

498
00:24:50,160 --> 00:24:53,040
That was an amazing time.
King's Manor might be the best

499
00:24:53,040 --> 00:24:54,920
trick or treating Northern
Virginia hands down.

500
00:24:55,400 --> 00:24:59,440
I can't think of better.
The biggest you did was what's

501
00:24:59,440 --> 00:25:01,840
that community over there by
Langley High School?

502
00:25:02,840 --> 00:25:05,680
Oh I totally forgot about that,
don't really remember what it's

503
00:25:05,680 --> 00:25:07,040
called.
Langley Oaks or something?

504
00:25:07,040 --> 00:25:09,600
Langley It's yes, it is Langley
Oaks.

505
00:25:10,000 --> 00:25:12,120
We went through there.
We went through the houses and

506
00:25:12,120 --> 00:25:17,880
you came home and we weighed
your candy and it was 27 lbs.

507
00:25:19,560 --> 00:25:22,800
I remember that.
It's 27 because remember I was

508
00:25:22,800 --> 00:25:24,920
like, use a pillowcase and I'm
like, why?

509
00:25:24,920 --> 00:25:27,400
It's because because then then
if somebody comes to cut your

510
00:25:27,400 --> 00:25:30,200
bag, you hit them with it and
you're on, you know, because we

511
00:25:30,200 --> 00:25:32,560
even learned that being in our
place, we would always have

512
00:25:32,840 --> 00:25:37,000
bigger kids would wait, come out
at like 10/30, 11:00 and they

513
00:25:37,200 --> 00:25:40,080
grab the little kids bag and
tell them to piss off and take

514
00:25:40,080 --> 00:25:45,120
their bag, you know, Yeah, yeah.
The, the fun with bullies and

515
00:25:45,360 --> 00:25:48,160
and good neighborhoods, you
know, or, or not so good

516
00:25:48,160 --> 00:25:49,920
neighborhoods.
And you would just you'd see

517
00:25:49,920 --> 00:25:52,080
that go.
Like I can't remember the last

518
00:25:52,080 --> 00:25:54,040
year I stopped trick or treat.
Was it 12?

519
00:25:54,480 --> 00:25:56,160
Was 12 the last year or was it
13?

520
00:25:57,520 --> 00:25:59,120
What was it 14?
It might have been 13.

521
00:25:59,120 --> 00:26:00,200
It might have been right in
there.

522
00:26:00,200 --> 00:26:03,040
I think, I think it was 12.
When it's 14 and 15, that's when

523
00:26:03,040 --> 00:26:05,840
you're going out to get beer.
I mean, we're always trying to

524
00:26:05,840 --> 00:26:07,440
get high and get drunk at that
point.

525
00:26:07,440 --> 00:26:11,960
We were, we would, we would use
candy as an excuse to be away

526
00:26:11,960 --> 00:26:15,360
from the parents till, you know,
midnight or 1:00 in the morning.

527
00:26:15,760 --> 00:26:19,800
And basically it was just to who
can we get, who has beer that

528
00:26:19,800 --> 00:26:23,680
you can steal out of their
parents garage refrigerator, who

529
00:26:23,680 --> 00:26:29,200
has wine, like whatever they
had, you know, and I think 15 we

530
00:26:29,200 --> 00:26:32,720
were in the weed too.
So that was, you know, if if you

531
00:26:32,720 --> 00:26:35,360
got stoned, you never got any
beer, 'cause you just sit around

532
00:26:35,360 --> 00:26:37,240
and talk about what you were
going to do and you never did.

533
00:26:38,440 --> 00:26:45,120
Exactly the the great motivator.
The great, great motivator.

534
00:26:45,240 --> 00:26:46,960
Wow.
But it's funny when you think

535
00:26:46,960 --> 00:26:49,440
about Halloween.
Let's listen.

536
00:26:49,440 --> 00:26:53,720
I I'm looking at the origins in
history and it's like ancient

537
00:26:53,720 --> 00:26:56,800
Celtic festivals.
I always heard it's like you

538
00:26:56,840 --> 00:26:58,800
can't.
It's like they mark the end of

539
00:26:58,800 --> 00:27:00,760
the harvest season and the
beginning of the winter.

540
00:27:01,160 --> 00:27:04,960
And they later merged with
Christian traditions such as All

541
00:27:04,960 --> 00:27:06,920
Hallows Eve.
In the Middle Ages, it became

542
00:27:06,920 --> 00:27:10,200
common for people to dress up as
the Saints, the dead, natural

543
00:27:10,760 --> 00:27:13,960
supernatural peoples, and Irish
and Scottish through the

544
00:27:13,960 --> 00:27:16,520
immigrants that are brought
Halloween customs to North

545
00:27:16,520 --> 00:27:17,560
America.
You know.

546
00:27:17,920 --> 00:27:19,920
And that's how it's going to
grown.

547
00:27:19,920 --> 00:27:23,280
You know, it started in the 19th
century, but I can't imagine

548
00:27:23,280 --> 00:27:25,320
just walking around in people's
houses and not going to give me

549
00:27:25,320 --> 00:27:26,880
some candy.
London.

550
00:27:26,880 --> 00:27:29,080
When I was just there about 3
days ago, they did it.

551
00:27:29,400 --> 00:27:32,720
I didn't realize that it was
kind of international.

552
00:27:32,720 --> 00:27:34,600
I thought it was mainly just an
American thing.

553
00:27:35,000 --> 00:27:38,640
But now people had their their
houses all drawn up with the

554
00:27:38,680 --> 00:27:41,640
decorations and what have you.
I was rather surprised.

555
00:27:41,640 --> 00:27:43,520
Well.
If they didn't get out candy, we

556
00:27:43,520 --> 00:27:48,200
would toilet paper and eggs and,
and when I worked Halloween

557
00:27:48,200 --> 00:27:53,360
night, that was usually we would
leave the restaurant And I

558
00:27:53,360 --> 00:27:57,120
remember getting a, a case of
tomatoes and they were old and

559
00:27:57,120 --> 00:28:00,280
rotting.
And we're driving down the road

560
00:28:00,280 --> 00:28:03,080
and someone will catch me for
this just 'cause we're, we're in

561
00:28:03,080 --> 00:28:05,520
the back of somebody, somebody
had a pickup truck.

562
00:28:05,520 --> 00:28:08,800
I, I, I don't remember, I don't
want to out them here.

563
00:28:09,240 --> 00:28:13,080
It's, it was probably a felony.
And we're driving down the road

564
00:28:13,280 --> 00:28:15,640
and I and I grabbed one of the
tomatoes and I pitched down at

565
00:28:15,640 --> 00:28:18,440
the rear of this this truck,
'cause I was going to just hit

566
00:28:18,440 --> 00:28:21,440
the truck with a tomato and he
hit the rear window and went

567
00:28:21,440 --> 00:28:24,040
right through it.
How did a tomato go through a

568
00:28:24,040 --> 00:28:25,520
rear window?
That doesn't make it easy.

569
00:28:25,520 --> 00:28:29,880
It was it was it was a a cab on
the back of a truck and had one

570
00:28:29,880 --> 00:28:32,000
of those pull down, pick up and
down window.

571
00:28:32,000 --> 00:28:33,560
So they're they're a.
Lot of hard tomato.

572
00:28:33,560 --> 00:28:35,040
It must have been one hard
tomato.

573
00:28:35,200 --> 00:28:36,800
It went man, it just shattered
it.

574
00:28:36,800 --> 00:28:39,800
I, I felt, I still feel guilty
that that's one of those regrets

575
00:28:39,800 --> 00:28:42,200
that, you know, when you're just
trying to mess things up and

576
00:28:42,200 --> 00:28:45,320
make it a little messy and throw
some eggs on things and you

577
00:28:45,320 --> 00:28:46,960
know.
Just we never said anything on

578
00:28:46,960 --> 00:28:49,600
fire, did anything like that.
I can't remember doing any of

579
00:28:49,600 --> 00:28:50,280
that.
I think I remember.

580
00:28:50,360 --> 00:28:52,480
There was somebody doing bags of
poop, that was.

581
00:28:52,520 --> 00:28:55,920
Yeah, that's a big one.
But I don't know 'cause the area

582
00:28:56,320 --> 00:28:59,200
is not conducive for that.
They're going to see you do it

583
00:28:59,560 --> 00:29:01,640
right 'cause the the house you.
Can't do it here.

584
00:29:01,640 --> 00:29:05,440
Together we were always
supervised, except for that one

585
00:29:05,440 --> 00:29:09,240
year as well.
From 12, I think 12, I wasn't no

586
00:29:09,240 --> 00:29:11,240
longer supervised when we did
that.

587
00:29:11,480 --> 00:29:15,360
Well, I remember we went over to
override Churchill Rd.

588
00:29:15,360 --> 00:29:19,040
We walked around there.
We went over to Debbie's place

589
00:29:19,440 --> 00:29:23,360
and they had a wagon and they
had a a cooler full of beer.

590
00:29:23,360 --> 00:29:25,080
That's funny.
And we walked around the

591
00:29:25,080 --> 00:29:26,800
neighborhood, it was, it was
great.

592
00:29:26,800 --> 00:29:28,840
You guys were just running from
house to house to house.

593
00:29:28,840 --> 00:29:31,080
And we just let you run, you
know, and it's like, make it

594
00:29:31,080 --> 00:29:34,160
back to the house before it's
too late, whatever too late is,

595
00:29:34,160 --> 00:29:37,000
you know, which is about 9:00,
you know, because.

596
00:29:37,000 --> 00:29:39,080
Exactly.
That's all ending at 9 or 10,

597
00:29:39,080 --> 00:29:40,920
yeah.
Because then get away.

598
00:29:40,920 --> 00:29:42,080
I'm out of candy.
I hate you.

599
00:29:42,720 --> 00:29:46,280
Yeah, little vermin.
What was it your your mother was

600
00:29:46,280 --> 00:29:47,640
talking about?
The one time she took you

601
00:29:47,640 --> 00:29:50,080
somewhere and he went to the
door and the lady had run out of

602
00:29:50,080 --> 00:29:51,760
candy, so she gave me some
saltines.

603
00:29:52,480 --> 00:29:54,520
Oh, yeah, The.
Well, they were shocked that was

604
00:29:54,520 --> 00:29:55,480
on this street.
Actually.

605
00:29:55,480 --> 00:29:57,040
The couple still lives there.
Really.

606
00:29:57,080 --> 00:30:01,600
They didn't remember that that.
Well, they never they didn't.

607
00:30:01,600 --> 00:30:03,560
They remembered it was
Halloween, but they didn't.

608
00:30:03,640 --> 00:30:04,920
They've never had trick or
treaters ever.

609
00:30:05,560 --> 00:30:07,880
Yeah, we was.
We gave us one or two.

610
00:30:07,880 --> 00:30:09,120
We're lucky.
Yeah.

611
00:30:09,120 --> 00:30:11,600
The breadsticks were funny.
I thought that was interesting.

612
00:30:12,040 --> 00:30:14,720
Yeah, 'cause there was that one
year we hit 3 neighborhoods and

613
00:30:14,720 --> 00:30:16,960
then our own SO4 neighborhoods
and that was.

614
00:30:16,960 --> 00:30:20,080
Crazy was with that with the
hollers.

615
00:30:21,240 --> 00:30:22,680
Oh yeah, I forgot about that one
too.

616
00:30:22,680 --> 00:30:24,400
That's when I had the pickup
truck and they were you guys

617
00:30:24,400 --> 00:30:26,560
were riding in the back of a
pickup truck.

618
00:30:26,600 --> 00:30:29,400
Yeah.
You know, and I think Rick and I

619
00:30:29,400 --> 00:30:30,720
were in the front chugging
beers.

620
00:30:31,040 --> 00:30:33,640
That's funny.
I'm like, hey, we're only going

621
00:30:33,640 --> 00:30:34,920
10 miles an hour.
We can go wrong.

622
00:30:35,640 --> 00:30:38,000
You can just kill all the kids
in the back, you know?

623
00:30:39,480 --> 00:30:41,360
Oh, nobody.
Nobody takes risks like that

624
00:30:41,360 --> 00:30:43,400
anymore.
Oh, nobody has fun.

625
00:30:43,560 --> 00:30:47,600
Well, we like, you know, it's
it's it's the horror of

626
00:30:47,600 --> 00:30:50,560
judgement.
Yeah, it's the punishment.

627
00:30:50,560 --> 00:30:52,480
Just the judgement, right?
Somebody felt.

628
00:30:52,560 --> 00:30:54,160
It you did that, that's the most
war it.

629
00:30:54,160 --> 00:30:56,280
Goes on the Internet and.
Everything's over.

630
00:30:56,280 --> 00:31:01,640
You did this, you know exactly,
you know, egg parties, toilet

631
00:31:01,640 --> 00:31:04,920
paper parties.
And now they're going, oh, we

632
00:31:04,920 --> 00:31:09,880
got to have a, a trick or
treating party and they had an

633
00:31:09,880 --> 00:31:13,120
online sign up sheet so you
could be involved.

634
00:31:13,160 --> 00:31:15,800
And if you signed up, then you
were a safe house to go to.

635
00:31:15,800 --> 00:31:18,120
And I was just like, what the
hell?

636
00:31:18,480 --> 00:31:21,160
Well, that was like, I think in
a couple episodes prior we

637
00:31:21,160 --> 00:31:25,120
talked about the No Child Left
Behind cards or the, that's not

638
00:31:25,120 --> 00:31:27,200
what it was called, but it was
called something else.

639
00:31:27,200 --> 00:31:29,080
And I got an ID when I was five
years old.

640
00:31:29,400 --> 00:31:32,160
And they always, I don't know,
it's the cultures of fear kind

641
00:31:32,160 --> 00:31:35,160
of deal, 'cause we needed
something to be afraid of after

642
00:31:35,160 --> 00:31:39,360
911 and it turned out to being
like this random man that was

643
00:31:39,360 --> 00:31:41,840
gonna abduct you from school,
which never happens.

644
00:31:41,840 --> 00:31:43,360
It's always your uncle or
something like that.

645
00:31:43,840 --> 00:31:47,200
They like kidnaps you or.
More of a non molested.

646
00:31:47,200 --> 00:31:51,400
Mom or the step dad or something
like that where they kidnap you

647
00:31:51,400 --> 00:31:55,120
and then they take you away to.
Yeah, I mean, your relatives are

648
00:31:55,400 --> 00:31:57,480
the biggest sexual assault.
There's who?

649
00:31:57,520 --> 00:32:00,320
Uncles.
Yeah, usually sadly.

650
00:32:00,520 --> 00:32:01,960
It's it's.
That's what it seems like.

651
00:32:02,720 --> 00:32:06,480
Usually uncles.
Very rarely do you see, well,

652
00:32:06,480 --> 00:32:09,080
that's not the same time the
biggest human trafficking kind

653
00:32:09,080 --> 00:32:13,040
of ring is the US government.
I mean, you look in Maryland

654
00:32:13,120 --> 00:32:17,600
every week you see pictures of
young black women that are

655
00:32:17,600 --> 00:32:20,560
disappeared, that disappeared.
I think Maryland is one of the

656
00:32:20,560 --> 00:32:26,280
largest disappearing capital of
young women, and it's.

657
00:32:26,280 --> 00:32:32,280
Crazy they they find an area
that is soft, which is PG county

658
00:32:32,280 --> 00:32:34,400
where the police aren't
monitoring that aren't doing

659
00:32:34,400 --> 00:32:36,520
anything about it but.
I think that's the government.

660
00:32:36,640 --> 00:32:38,880
I'm pretty sure that's the
government doing that.

661
00:32:38,920 --> 00:32:40,920
I don't know, because that's
very odd.

662
00:32:40,920 --> 00:32:44,520
Well, like we always blame these
drug dealers for destroying

663
00:32:44,520 --> 00:32:47,080
society, right?
But at the same time, who are

664
00:32:47,080 --> 00:32:48,880
the biggest drug dealers but the
CIA?

665
00:32:49,240 --> 00:32:51,680
So I don't know.
Well, see, that's the thing I've

666
00:32:51,680 --> 00:32:54,840
always had a problem with when
people say the drug dealers are

667
00:32:54,840 --> 00:32:57,040
horrible.
And it's like, actually, no, I

668
00:32:57,040 --> 00:32:59,920
don't remember them contacting
me ever.

669
00:33:00,000 --> 00:33:03,720
When I was like in my drug
stages, it was always the other

670
00:33:03,720 --> 00:33:05,760
way around.
And all my friends are made-up

671
00:33:05,800 --> 00:33:08,280
Facade.
They were all looking for the

672
00:33:08,280 --> 00:33:10,560
no, the drug dealers were not
pushing a product.

673
00:33:10,560 --> 00:33:12,800
They didn't have a they didn't
have a sign out saying Hey, I'm

674
00:33:12,800 --> 00:33:16,000
selling this, I'm selling that.
You know, we did have one guy.

675
00:33:16,000 --> 00:33:20,240
I remember when when Ted Nugent
came out with this album.

676
00:33:20,240 --> 00:33:22,920
Remember cat scratch fever?
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

677
00:33:22,920 --> 00:33:26,400
This guy's nickname was Cat and
they would say like cats, he's

678
00:33:26,400 --> 00:33:29,480
scratching, which means he was,
he's going to score like a

679
00:33:29,480 --> 00:33:31,640
pound.
You know, the cat's scratching,

680
00:33:31,640 --> 00:33:33,560
the cat's scratching and
everybody like really, because

681
00:33:33,560 --> 00:33:37,680
he always gave good counts, you
know, and then and the and the

682
00:33:37,680 --> 00:33:39,200
cat's scratching, he's got the
fever.

683
00:33:39,520 --> 00:33:43,760
And that meant that he was like
really giving huge because he

684
00:33:43,760 --> 00:33:46,720
would get a good deal on weed
and then cut it up and give

685
00:33:47,000 --> 00:33:49,520
really big counts and for a good
price.

686
00:33:49,560 --> 00:33:51,400
You know, it was like shopping
at Costco.

687
00:33:51,760 --> 00:33:53,440
You know.
You got to get, you got to get

688
00:33:53,440 --> 00:33:57,080
the good deal on the good drugs,
you know, But then I mean, weed

689
00:33:57,080 --> 00:34:00,480
has changed so.
Now it has nothing like it used

690
00:34:00,480 --> 00:34:01,560
to be.
We don't really know the

691
00:34:01,560 --> 00:34:04,320
neurological effects on 35% THC,
you know.

692
00:34:05,000 --> 00:34:08,800
Yeah, we don't sit around and we
would do bong hit contests and

693
00:34:09,120 --> 00:34:12,520
you know, we you'd get tired of
doing bong hits.

694
00:34:12,520 --> 00:34:18,800
Not like today.
Hey, I did 2 and you're, you're

695
00:34:18,800 --> 00:34:20,679
a zombie, you know, and it's
done.

696
00:34:20,719 --> 00:34:25,440
And then it was just like you,
just, you would just keep going,

697
00:34:25,440 --> 00:34:28,719
trying to catch it, trying to
keep it 'cause it, it, it was

698
00:34:28,719 --> 00:34:32,040
such a mild hit, you know, it
was crazy.

699
00:34:32,880 --> 00:34:36,040
Exactly.
No, it's rather times have

700
00:34:36,040 --> 00:34:37,760
changed.
Times have definitely changed.

701
00:34:37,760 --> 00:34:39,320
I wonder how Halloween has
changed.

702
00:34:39,840 --> 00:34:41,880
I don't really know.
I wonder if you see the same

703
00:34:41,880 --> 00:34:45,040
amount of trick or treaters that
once existed when I was a kid,

704
00:34:45,040 --> 00:34:49,679
'cause there was, my gosh, like
when I was a kid, jeez.

705
00:34:49,679 --> 00:34:51,400
I remember King's Manor was
covered.

706
00:34:51,520 --> 00:34:56,440
It was hundreds, hundreds, if
not thousands of people.

707
00:34:56,639 --> 00:34:58,360
Crazy, crazy, crazy.
We.

708
00:34:58,360 --> 00:35:00,520
Should go through there right
now and throw eggs at all the

709
00:35:00,520 --> 00:35:01,840
kids or something.
That's what you do.

710
00:35:02,400 --> 00:35:06,600
We could definitely make it on
to social media really big that

711
00:35:06,600 --> 00:35:07,680
way.
I'm sure people.

712
00:35:07,680 --> 00:35:09,480
Would I think the the a?
Lot of that.

713
00:35:10,120 --> 00:35:14,120
The interesting thing is one of
the things they poured here is

714
00:35:14,480 --> 00:35:18,520
that commercially, Halloween is
the second largest commercial

715
00:35:18,680 --> 00:35:23,680
holiday in the US.
How better than better than

716
00:35:23,680 --> 00:35:27,520
Thanksgiving, Better than
Mother's Day, Better than

717
00:35:27,520 --> 00:35:30,920
Father's Day, Better than
Valentine's, Valentine's Day?

718
00:35:31,040 --> 00:35:32,120
Halloween.
Beats it out.

719
00:35:32,120 --> 00:35:34,600
Beats them all out.
You were talking to me about

720
00:35:35,240 --> 00:35:37,600
what was it?
Oh Jesus.

721
00:35:37,600 --> 00:35:40,840
Oh, the Spirit, Yeah.
And the the business model of

722
00:35:40,840 --> 00:35:41,840
spirit.
Halloween.

723
00:35:42,160 --> 00:35:43,200
Yeah.
And they were talking.

724
00:35:43,200 --> 00:35:47,520
About that yeah, because they
they, they are they have managed

725
00:35:47,520 --> 00:35:50,760
to get short term leases and
they get short term leases near

726
00:35:50,760 --> 00:35:53,640
the end of the year and they're
usually cheaper because you

727
00:35:53,640 --> 00:35:56,520
you're not going to get no one
else is hunting for you know,

728
00:35:56,520 --> 00:36:00,520
short term real estate property
after somebody went bankrupt in

729
00:36:00,520 --> 00:36:04,560
June you come along in July and
rent it for August, September,

730
00:36:04,560 --> 00:36:08,520
October, whatever November and
you have a you have a Halloween

731
00:36:08,520 --> 00:36:11,440
shop and then you turn it into
Christmas shop and then you and

732
00:36:11,440 --> 00:36:14,000
you load it up with all I never.
Knew they did Christmas too.

733
00:36:14,000 --> 00:36:16,440
That's something that dawned on
me when he told me about the

734
00:36:16,440 --> 00:36:19,160
other day.
If they get, if they get a long

735
00:36:19,160 --> 00:36:23,840
term, a long, long term, you
know, the three month lease as

736
00:36:23,840 --> 00:36:27,280
opposed to it one month or
two-month, you know, and they're

737
00:36:27,280 --> 00:36:29,000
going to get it at a huge
discount.

738
00:36:29,000 --> 00:36:32,880
So it's really cheap property in
a heavily trafficked Perrier

739
00:36:32,880 --> 00:36:38,520
like ICE and center.
And, you know, and or the strip

740
00:36:38,520 --> 00:36:41,320
malls, they'll put them in strip
malls because strip malls, you

741
00:36:41,320 --> 00:36:45,040
know, something gets reasonable
amount of foot traffic or people

742
00:36:45,040 --> 00:36:48,160
will go to a that's a
destination thing, you know,

743
00:36:48,240 --> 00:36:48,760
Wow.
Well.

744
00:36:48,760 --> 00:36:51,920
It's an experience to go look at
what costumes are this year.

745
00:36:51,920 --> 00:36:53,840
Yeah, and I'm not even.
That's a big part of it.

746
00:36:53,840 --> 00:36:55,520
I'm not dressing up.
I'm not doing anything.

747
00:36:55,520 --> 00:36:57,480
And I go look and I'm just like,
this is cool.

748
00:36:57,920 --> 00:36:59,280
Wow.
I think I'll buy some long

749
00:36:59,280 --> 00:37:01,320
fingernails or whatever the
hell, you know?

750
00:37:01,640 --> 00:37:04,640
Exactly.
Or, or I used to love the

751
00:37:04,640 --> 00:37:09,800
vampire teeth.
I'd wear those, you know, good

752
00:37:09,800 --> 00:37:12,640
old days when you think about
all those things that you did

753
00:37:12,640 --> 00:37:16,320
for Halloween.
But we were mostly we were I, I

754
00:37:16,360 --> 00:37:20,600
mean, I remember Halloween in
the early years to some degree

755
00:37:20,680 --> 00:37:22,960
that I mean, I remember the
dressing up as a woman.

756
00:37:22,960 --> 00:37:26,240
I remember the cot.
But after that, I mean, I think

757
00:37:26,240 --> 00:37:33,240
I was in 6th grade.
We did a we did a, a report on

758
00:37:33,240 --> 00:37:38,040
Vietnam and it's cool.
And so we dressed up as

759
00:37:38,040 --> 00:37:40,840
Vietnamese people and I had a
Vietnamese hat and I remember

760
00:37:41,040 --> 00:37:45,120
trick or treating in that in 6th
grade, I would have been

761
00:37:45,320 --> 00:37:56,480
probably 1966 or 67.
So back then 6868 probably, you

762
00:37:56,480 --> 00:38:01,200
know what the peak of rebellion
and you know, and here I was

763
00:38:01,680 --> 00:38:04,880
pretending and I had a headband
and a red headband and I had the

764
00:38:04,880 --> 00:38:08,200
whole top.
I was an NVA Viet Cong, you

765
00:38:08,200 --> 00:38:12,600
know, and you don't understand
what I'm that's.

766
00:38:12,600 --> 00:38:14,720
Pretty wild.
Well, that's like dressing up as

767
00:38:14,760 --> 00:38:16,600
a Taliban.
Kind of.

768
00:38:16,600 --> 00:38:18,040
That'd be.
Yeah, that would be.

769
00:38:18,600 --> 00:38:21,560
In the early 2000s.
Yeah, I think that that would

770
00:38:21,560 --> 00:38:24,280
be, well, I think it was
different because I don't think

771
00:38:24,720 --> 00:38:29,840
that the American people hated
the Vietnamese, the Vietnamese

772
00:38:30,080 --> 00:38:32,240
the way that they hate the
Taliban.

773
00:38:32,640 --> 00:38:35,680
Yeah, we were, I would say.
So the propaganda that hate the

774
00:38:35,680 --> 00:38:38,880
Taliban was pretty high.
No, exactly.

775
00:38:38,880 --> 00:38:40,440
And it was a much.
Better, much better.

776
00:38:40,440 --> 00:38:42,040
Or remember, there was no way on
that.

777
00:38:42,800 --> 00:38:44,680
You had to watch TV to know who
to hate.

778
00:38:45,200 --> 00:38:47,800
Well, at the same time that war
was one of the most protested

779
00:38:47,800 --> 00:38:51,680
wars of all time and you could
if not the most protested war of

780
00:38:51,680 --> 00:38:55,120
all time I think.
And people did not like what was

781
00:38:55,120 --> 00:38:58,080
going on with, well, they also
being sent there.

782
00:38:58,440 --> 00:39:05,400
But they also the the military
and, and the Iraq war and also

783
00:39:05,400 --> 00:39:10,160
in Afghanistan, they did not
allow the journalists to see

784
00:39:10,160 --> 00:39:12,640
everything.
They kept them in the bases.

785
00:39:12,640 --> 00:39:16,080
They would not allow them to go
out on patrol and stuff like in

786
00:39:16,080 --> 00:39:18,120
Vietnam.
You would, you would they would

787
00:39:18,120 --> 00:39:23,560
go out on Recon and I remember
watching the six O clock news

788
00:39:23,560 --> 00:39:26,080
every night.
And it was just, it was, it was

789
00:39:26,080 --> 00:39:29,280
a little war scene because
they'd get the footage from from

790
00:39:29,280 --> 00:39:34,200
Vietnam and Walt would run it
and you would see these guys

791
00:39:34,200 --> 00:39:38,520
walking through this really
dense jungle walking through

792
00:39:38,680 --> 00:39:39,440
here we are.
What's up?

793
00:39:39,440 --> 00:39:44,160
But over there, over there.
And then boom, you know, and

794
00:39:44,160 --> 00:39:46,440
they hear screaming and a guy
hit.

795
00:39:46,440 --> 00:39:49,200
And I mean, I remember 1 where
he hit and it blew out his

796
00:39:49,200 --> 00:39:51,840
midsection because they had
these things called bouncing

797
00:39:51,840 --> 00:39:54,480
betties that popped up when you
stepped on it.

798
00:39:54,640 --> 00:39:58,560
It popped up to about 2 1/2 feet
and it just blew up right at

799
00:39:58,560 --> 00:40:00,680
your guts because they didn't
want to kill you.

800
00:40:00,880 --> 00:40:03,920
They just wanted to wound you
because then two guys got to

801
00:40:03,920 --> 00:40:06,600
take you back.
Think about what you did and

802
00:40:06,600 --> 00:40:08,560
then emotionally what that does
to you.

803
00:40:09,200 --> 00:40:11,480
And it's always the point guy,
you know?

804
00:40:11,760 --> 00:40:13,280
It always is.
Yeah, I knew.

805
00:40:13,280 --> 00:40:15,160
Especially when they were going
in the tunnels.

806
00:40:15,280 --> 00:40:17,160
Oh my.
God, he told me the stories and

807
00:40:17,160 --> 00:40:22,400
it was just like, you know, he,
they the he was always the point

808
00:40:22,400 --> 00:40:25,120
guy and he would go on long
range Recon and he was a green

809
00:40:25,120 --> 00:40:28,440
Beret and they would talk about
the stories that, you know, you

810
00:40:28,440 --> 00:40:32,000
would go out with five and come
back with three, you know, and

811
00:40:32,000 --> 00:40:34,920
three carrying two.
And that was the and, and it was

812
00:40:34,960 --> 00:40:36,360
not.
To mention the tiger drops.

813
00:40:36,640 --> 00:40:41,200
And whoever got, whoever got
point was most likely going to

814
00:40:41,200 --> 00:40:46,640
be at least wounded.
And usually the The thing is, is

815
00:40:46,640 --> 00:40:51,200
that in that war we had a way to
pick people up and move them to

816
00:40:51,200 --> 00:40:54,440
a hospital better than in any
other war.

817
00:40:54,960 --> 00:40:59,360
So the casualty rate was really
high, but the death rate was a

818
00:40:59,360 --> 00:41:01,720
lot lower.
Because I think in World War Two

819
00:41:01,720 --> 00:41:09,040
it was like, it was like for
every four people shot, two of

820
00:41:09,040 --> 00:41:11,840
them died.
Whereas in Vietnam, it was like

821
00:41:12,440 --> 00:41:15,240
one out of six.
It was, it was a completely

822
00:41:15,240 --> 00:41:18,560
different thing because we
could, we could save people, you

823
00:41:18,560 --> 00:41:22,280
know, but do you save them?
And, you know, their hearts are

824
00:41:22,280 --> 00:41:26,080
gone, you know, and now we're
looking at that in Afghanistan.

825
00:41:26,080 --> 00:41:30,240
And we, you know, you got like a
lot of people have come back

826
00:41:30,240 --> 00:41:33,360
from Afghanistan, but
Afghanistan I don't.

827
00:41:33,600 --> 00:41:37,360
They had intense fighting, but
it was much more pocketed as

828
00:41:37,360 --> 00:41:42,200
opposed to Vietnam and it was
much more.

829
00:41:42,200 --> 00:41:46,320
I would say it seems like it was
a lot more mountain warfare.

830
00:41:46,320 --> 00:41:48,160
Where?
Well, that country had been

831
00:41:48,160 --> 00:41:51,040
fighting for 60 years, right?
Yeah, they.

832
00:41:51,040 --> 00:41:52,440
Were they were a lot better at
it.

833
00:41:52,440 --> 00:41:55,680
I mean, the whole idea that we
went in there was just, you

834
00:41:55,680 --> 00:41:59,480
know, I, I, we, we protested.
And when it happened, you know,

835
00:41:59,480 --> 00:42:01,400
here we are talking about
Halloween and now we're talking

836
00:42:01,400 --> 00:42:04,560
about the Taliban and how, yeah,
it was, it was a bad idea.

837
00:42:04,640 --> 00:42:08,120
It was a bad idea to do it.
Hindsight, 2020.

838
00:42:08,520 --> 00:42:10,520
Right, right.
There was a whole lot of

839
00:42:10,520 --> 00:42:13,760
foresight then, but the all.
The news stations.

840
00:42:13,920 --> 00:42:15,120
The news ideas.
Selling it.

841
00:42:15,280 --> 00:42:17,320
They were selling it as they've.
Sold.

842
00:42:17,320 --> 00:42:20,080
Everything we were all going to
run in there and everybody was

843
00:42:20,080 --> 00:42:22,440
going to roll over and be happy
and it was going to be the and

844
00:42:22,440 --> 00:42:23,800
if you think about it, it would
have been the 1st.

845
00:42:23,800 --> 00:42:25,200
'Cause they want to be freed,
right?

846
00:42:25,200 --> 00:42:25,600
That's.
What?

847
00:42:25,600 --> 00:42:26,560
Nobody.
Nobody.

848
00:42:26,840 --> 00:42:28,480
Nobody's given over their
country to you.

849
00:42:28,520 --> 00:42:32,160
No, it's not happening.
You don't go soup, you know

850
00:42:32,280 --> 00:42:33,960
we're.
Not like the Persians in the

851
00:42:34,920 --> 00:42:38,480
1000 BC, right?
Yeah, not like.

852
00:42:38,480 --> 00:42:41,280
That or 800.
CE or something like that, yeah.

853
00:42:41,280 --> 00:42:44,480
You have to rule with an iron
hand and kill people that oppose

854
00:42:44,480 --> 00:42:47,720
you and slaughter them and have
your prisons and all that kind

855
00:42:47,720 --> 00:42:50,320
of stuff like that.
And that's how you stay in, you

856
00:42:50,320 --> 00:42:53,360
know, power.
Sadly, when the people are not

857
00:42:53,360 --> 00:42:58,360
with you, you have a strong man
and a lot of people there to

858
00:42:58,360 --> 00:43:00,760
support them.
It's just like it's crazy.

859
00:43:01,360 --> 00:43:06,080
Back to Halloween, if you could
be anything this year, what

860
00:43:06,080 --> 00:43:08,960
would you be?
Well, I have a flying squirrel

861
00:43:08,960 --> 00:43:10,720
costume.
I haven't ever been really

862
00:43:10,720 --> 00:43:13,720
thoughtful about the costumes
that I've worn.

863
00:43:13,720 --> 00:43:15,440
I've never really given them
much thought.

864
00:43:15,520 --> 00:43:18,520
I As I said before, I've been
wearing a NASCAR jacket for the

865
00:43:18,520 --> 00:43:22,120
past two years, and that's fine,
but I guess I'll put on the

866
00:43:22,120 --> 00:43:24,960
flying squirrel costume for fun.
I think I'll do that.

867
00:43:25,720 --> 00:43:29,400
I would want to be in a
barbershop quartet.

868
00:43:30,160 --> 00:43:32,000
That's a big mustache.
Big, big.

869
00:43:32,000 --> 00:43:34,080
One of those big handlebar
mustache is wearing the

870
00:43:34,080 --> 00:43:36,800
checkered shirt and a hat and
the whole thing like that and

871
00:43:36,800 --> 00:43:40,040
play the harmonica.
That's what I want to be and I

872
00:43:40,040 --> 00:43:42,200
just be by myself and I walk up
and start playing the harmonica

873
00:43:42,200 --> 00:43:43,480
and open up my game.
That's.

874
00:43:43,480 --> 00:43:45,240
Funny, I like and then people
would be like.

875
00:43:45,240 --> 00:43:46,680
What the hell?
You're weirdo.

876
00:43:47,120 --> 00:43:49,840
You know, I think that would
that, that would, that would.

877
00:43:49,840 --> 00:43:52,840
It's just, it's innocuous, it's
funny, it's different.

878
00:43:52,840 --> 00:43:56,080
It's that.
I'd be a merman, but I would.

879
00:43:56,080 --> 00:43:58,000
I'd be the top fish in the
bottom human.

880
00:43:58,000 --> 00:44:00,600
That'd be funny.
Yeah, never wear a rubber mask.

881
00:44:00,600 --> 00:44:02,880
That just was never.
They smell too.

882
00:44:03,120 --> 00:44:06,120
Yeah, they smell, but it's also
you can't, you can't see, you

883
00:44:06,120 --> 00:44:08,120
can't talk, you can't do all
sorts of things.

884
00:44:08,400 --> 00:44:10,040
You can't.
You can't drink beer when you're

885
00:44:10,040 --> 00:44:12,480
walking there's.
There's all of the costumes that

886
00:44:12,480 --> 00:44:14,560
I always chose were trick or
treating forward.

887
00:44:14,560 --> 00:44:17,920
It was always about the economy,
the candy economy, and it was

888
00:44:17,920 --> 00:44:23,080
all about what costume can I use
or wear that will be the most

889
00:44:23,080 --> 00:44:26,120
flexible for go.
Speed Racer go.

890
00:44:26,760 --> 00:44:29,120
Exactly.
Yeah, there were years I wish I

891
00:44:29,120 --> 00:44:31,760
had a car.
Bridal was bridal the little kid

892
00:44:31,760 --> 00:44:35,480
in the trunk?
Oh, I don't remember.

893
00:44:35,920 --> 00:44:37,480
It was the dog or the kid.
I love the name.

894
00:44:37,480 --> 00:44:39,120
Spridal, I remember emailed.
I tried.

895
00:44:39,120 --> 00:44:41,280
To name you Spridal.
But the wife said that was a bad

896
00:44:41,280 --> 00:44:44,600
idea.
Call him Spridal.

897
00:44:45,080 --> 00:44:46,760
Spridal.
I think I'm gonna start calling

898
00:44:46,760 --> 00:44:47,800
you Spridal.
What do you want?

899
00:44:47,800 --> 00:44:49,640
I think it's never too late to
change your name.

900
00:44:49,840 --> 00:44:51,480
Yeah, I think you're.
Don't change your name to

901
00:44:51,480 --> 00:44:54,600
Spridal.
Spridal, Zack Spridal.

902
00:44:54,840 --> 00:44:57,920
Zack, I think we're we're
reaching time here.

903
00:44:57,920 --> 00:44:59,560
What do you think?
Oh my gosh, yeah.

904
00:44:59,800 --> 00:45:02,960
I think this is a great.
Episode This has been fun a lot

905
00:45:03,080 --> 00:45:04,520
of.
The walk through memory lane.

906
00:45:04,960 --> 00:45:08,640
Timely and Halloween and talking
about the chill.

907
00:45:08,640 --> 00:45:13,640
Well, thinking about Halloween,
what do you, what do you think

908
00:45:17,480 --> 00:45:21,800
it is it anything that you would
expect to change or happen after

909
00:45:21,800 --> 00:45:23,200
this Halloween?
It's it's.

910
00:45:23,200 --> 00:45:24,080
Not really.
It's.

911
00:45:24,120 --> 00:45:25,480
Not really.
Not a reoccurring.

912
00:45:25,520 --> 00:45:28,080
Thing cycle of time.
Yeah, it's something.

913
00:45:28,160 --> 00:45:30,040
Yeah.
Well, they used to have the

914
00:45:30,040 --> 00:45:32,600
Wilding and all that kind of
stuff and say how crazy people

915
00:45:32,600 --> 00:45:35,480
get on Halloween and they do all
those bad things and.

916
00:45:35,560 --> 00:45:39,560
And you just never.
I mean, I hung out with quite a

917
00:45:39,560 --> 00:45:44,160
few thugs and they would, you
know, they, they would talk

918
00:45:44,160 --> 00:45:46,760
about, hey, we're going to go
throw a dozen eggs at a bunch of

919
00:45:46,760 --> 00:45:49,520
houses, OK?
I never saw any of that.

920
00:45:49,560 --> 00:45:51,880
Yeah, I never knew.
People that didn't well, you

921
00:45:51,880 --> 00:45:54,280
were sadly, you weren't poor.
That's fair.

922
00:45:54,560 --> 00:45:56,880
That's a fair point.
So you couldn't afford to throw

923
00:45:56,880 --> 00:46:01,160
away eggs.
That's true, you know, but it

924
00:46:01,280 --> 00:46:03,360
but just but well, no, it was
all the getting even.

925
00:46:04,800 --> 00:46:07,160
I mean when it all came down to
it, that was like the get even

926
00:46:07,160 --> 00:46:09,200
night, the Halloween trick or
treat, right?

927
00:46:10,040 --> 00:46:11,720
The what?
It's trick or treat, right?

928
00:46:12,280 --> 00:46:14,000
Yeah, yeah.
And we would go around at the

929
00:46:14,000 --> 00:46:16,200
people that didn't give us stuff
or lock the doors.

930
00:46:16,200 --> 00:46:18,920
You'd do stuff like that.
I Remember, Remember, I think I

931
00:46:18,920 --> 00:46:22,040
told the story about the
newspaper where we did that,

932
00:46:22,040 --> 00:46:25,440
that I think it was Halloween
day when she wouldn't pay her

933
00:46:25,440 --> 00:46:27,560
bill, when she.
Yelled about it.

934
00:46:27,960 --> 00:46:29,960
That's the first episode we ever
did of the second, yeah.

935
00:46:30,080 --> 00:46:33,520
When we lit the paper on fire in
front of her house and of course

936
00:46:33,520 --> 00:46:37,040
Bayview apartments.
And then my brother whips it out

937
00:46:37,040 --> 00:46:39,800
and pees on it and puts it out.
Oh my God, it's a horse smell,

938
00:46:41,160 --> 00:46:42,320
you know.
So you got this smoking

939
00:46:42,320 --> 00:46:48,000
Washington Post at 4:30 in the
morning put out by urine and

940
00:46:48,000 --> 00:46:51,040
it's, and she was in the, she
was on the 1st floor.

941
00:46:51,040 --> 00:46:55,040
So it just sort of emanate.
It's just like nasty, you know,

942
00:46:55,200 --> 00:46:57,600
I, I said, well, that's a pretty
good Halloween prank, you know?

943
00:46:57,840 --> 00:46:58,960
That is pretty good.
I like.

944
00:46:59,160 --> 00:47:02,880
That it was one of the better
ones, you know, talk about most

945
00:47:02,880 --> 00:47:05,280
of it wasn't.
Yeah, but we wouldn't like you

946
00:47:05,280 --> 00:47:07,520
would never want to break
anything or hurt anything.

947
00:47:08,120 --> 00:47:09,640
I just want to make you wash
your car.

948
00:47:09,640 --> 00:47:13,360
I just want to make you have to
clean your stuff, clean your

949
00:47:13,360 --> 00:47:16,640
drawer, store, pick the tape,
toilet paper out of your tree,

950
00:47:16,640 --> 00:47:18,800
you know, something like that.
That you would look at it and it

951
00:47:18,800 --> 00:47:21,880
would be like, hey, I poked you.
I poked you.

952
00:47:21,880 --> 00:47:23,680
Not it.
I mean, not not even to hurt

953
00:47:23,680 --> 00:47:26,040
you, but just maybe piss you off
a little bit.

954
00:47:26,480 --> 00:47:29,280
And and I could laugh about it
later.

955
00:47:29,600 --> 00:47:32,520
Exactly.
I just now, I never, I mean, I

956
00:47:32,560 --> 00:47:34,960
had a lot of friends that were
in destruction, but I was never

957
00:47:34,960 --> 00:47:36,080
into that.
It just doesn't.

958
00:47:36,520 --> 00:47:39,320
I mean, we didn't have anything.
So for for you to break

959
00:47:39,320 --> 00:47:42,000
something seemed like, well, why
wouldn't you just steal it?

960
00:47:42,840 --> 00:47:45,360
I can't, I couldn't imagine
that, you know.

961
00:47:45,360 --> 00:47:48,320
So in Halloween, one of the
things I would like to say

962
00:47:48,320 --> 00:47:52,080
before we sign off here is it's
better to steal than it is to

963
00:47:52,080 --> 00:47:53,640
break.
Remember that.

964
00:47:54,080 --> 00:47:56,560
That's for sure.
I agree that's a good thing.

965
00:47:56,640 --> 00:47:58,440
Be creative with your pranks out
there.

966
00:47:58,440 --> 00:48:01,080
Don't be don't be small minded
and break things.

967
00:48:01,440 --> 00:48:02,440
Yes.
All right.

968
00:48:02,440 --> 00:48:04,640
Well, it was great talking to
you guys.

969
00:48:04,680 --> 00:48:08,040
Go find us@recordmyfather.com,
sign up on the mailing list.

970
00:48:08,360 --> 00:48:10,440
Do it right now.
All right, We'll talk to you

971
00:48:10,440 --> 00:48:11,560
next time.
Next Friday.

972
00:48:11,680 --> 00:48:12,880
Next Friday.
We'll talk to you then.

973
00:48:13,080 --> 00:48:13,440
Bye.
Bye.

974
00:48:13,680 --> 00:48:14,400
Yep.
Party.