Episode 117: Private Prisons

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There we go.
Welcome back to another episode

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of Record My Father today this I
don't know I think this this

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kind of topic of private prisons
here we go is came from us

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watching locked up raw when I
was a kid I was six years old

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seven years old.
What show did we share together?

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Locked up Raw and the first one
of the. 1st We also watched The

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Simpsons.
Yeah, yeah, OK.

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But one of the first episodes I
ever saw was about when the

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California three strike program
was a kind of initiated and you

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had this guy in there that got
caught with an ounce of

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marijuana three times.
And then he was in prison for

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life.
And he was, I think, 64 years

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old at that time.
And I think that that's pretty

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crazy back in 2008.
I don't know what.

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Do you think about that?
It's there's just so many things

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that go into the prison system.
I mean, the thing that kind of

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shocks me is that I looked, I
got this prison policy

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initiative, mass incorporation,
the whole pie.

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Wendy Sawyer, Pete Wagner wrote
this in March of 2025.

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It's this year.
It's actually really, really

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cool because it kind of breaks
down like who, where, what, when

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and why 2 million people are
incarcerated in the US And, and

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think about this, 25% of those
over 25% are just in jail

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waiting trial.
So it's not like, I mean, my

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gosh, we have a lot that that
that, I mean, just that's those

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statistics on their own make you
think like, wow, 560,000 people

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in jail waiting for trial.
Well, it's like you see here is

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457,000 people are not convicted
yet.

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Right.
You're looking at, you're

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looking at a similar, a similar
thing.

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I mean, it's just when you start
to look at the sheer numbers,

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well, you know, we're, we're,
what are we, 300 million people,

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right?
Something like that So.

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What kind of a what kind of a
population are we talking about

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that 2 of 300 is, is here
somebody do some divisional long

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here Klee 2 / 300 equals it's
0.6% of the population, not even

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one percent, 1% will be
3,000,000, OK.

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Yeah, I'm not going to lie, I
thought.

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Wait, no, no, no, no, I yeah, 1%
would be 3,000,010%.

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So it's not even 1% of the US
population.

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So it's it's a.
Lot.

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It's a whole lot.
But I've always seen the numbers

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like 6% and all this and, and it
seems very odd when you start to

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look at the numbers that you
know, and, and this is a policy

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initiative from, from, from the
prison system.

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So I, I actually believe it, you
know, and.

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And I'm sure it's about a year
or two.

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Oh, this is.
Oh, yeah.

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March 11th, 2025.
Yeah.

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That's another thing too because
most of the policy stuff I was

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seeing was from 20/22, which is
right after COVID and COVID.

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We had a huge drop off of people
being arrested.

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Weird how that is.
You would have thought that

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people in them that do, they'd
be out robbing.

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Yeah, no, exactly.
Well, that's kind of what

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happened after.
I remember being in

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Charlottesville and Labor Day
weekend, it seemed like

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everything came back.
There was like 7 shootings in

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one strip mall that weekend.
I'm like, well, I guess the

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world's the sun is out, guys.
Oh my God.

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People are out again and they're
murdering.

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It's great.
I don't know, it's just kind of.

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Well, I think that the the
weirdest thing that I look at

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this kind of policy is that when
you start to look at like what

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are they in for?
In the state prisons of the

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million people that are in
there, we have 167 or murder

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20,000 are manslaughter, rape
177,000 that's all white men

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robbery 131,000 assault 138,000
other violent crimes 42,000.

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So and that runs out to a total
of I think I can read it right

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is 691,000.
So almost 700,000 of the state

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prisons are violent criminals,
right?

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Or they do some Yeah, violent
I'm looking at.

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I think I'm looking on the same
graph that you're looking at.

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Yeah.
It's like 691,000 are violent

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people are violent offenders,
which is kind of surprising to

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me.
I don't know.

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I would have thought it would
have been more drugs, I don't

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know, than drug possession
because that's easier to do.

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That's an easier offense to get
people for.

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And I feel like you can lock
them up for I guess not as long

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though.
Right.

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If you're looking at them on
federal, federal prisons, much

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higher percentage.
Federal prisons and jails have

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203,000 people right
incarcerated.

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Of that, of that group, 68,000
are in drugs.

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So they are much fit.
You're much more likely to be in

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a federal prison for a drug
offense than in a state prison.

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State prison is, you know, 3/4
are violent criminals.

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OK, and and I and I'm cool with
that.

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You know, if you're violent and
you, you, you hurt people.

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I would like to see more, I
mean, from my perspective, not

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necessarily property crimes, but
more we don't seem to do

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anything against white collar
crime.

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That that's when I when I think
about when I think about all the

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things that people are hurt.
When you think about the Enron,

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for instance, they, they put in,
they were going to put in jail I

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think 3 people, two or three
people total of the senior

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management.
Kenneth Lake died and he didn't

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get charged or he didn't get
convicted.

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So he was never, never served
any time.

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I think Sutskow, Tutskow,
whatever his name was, Gutskow,

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he got 10 years.
He's out now.

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He's doing a, you know, run
around the country talking about

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how bad, you know, things are
and all his kids.

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Killed themselves, right?
Was it all that that was Madoff?

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That was Madoff.
That was Madoff's kids killed

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themselves like I got you, but.
He's like one of the few

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outliers that gets this huge
giant sentence for for basically

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stealing your money.
And you think about it and and

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this is the thing that bothers
me and it bothers me, the Jordan

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Belfort same thing Wolf on Wall
Street and people say, oh, you

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know, oh, that's really cool.
We got to do pounds of cocaine.

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The thing you don't remember or
they don't really post in the

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wolf of Wall Street.
A lot of people have attacked

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Scorsese over this is there was
no there wasn't even a slight

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nod to the victims.
Nothing because the way that

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they did that crime is a sad in
New Jersey and they called

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retired people in New York and
and and Florida pretty simple.

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They made friends with the
people.

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They sold them stock that was
worthless or near worthless.

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They pumped it up and then they
sold the stock, took their money

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and the, you know, a lot of
people were eating dog food

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after that.
Same.

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Thing same.
Thing with Enron, you had, you

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had people that were, that there
was like a lady that was a nurse

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married to a doctor.
I I just saw the individual

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stories and they were
heartbreaking.

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And that they had to, they lost
their house, lost every dollar

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that he'd ever made was put in
with Madoff.

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That was made off, right.
And she was going back to work

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as a nurse's assistant at 68
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That's what it is.
Your grandparents, right?

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I mean, that's.
Right.

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And they're they're all just
getting and but they're the, you

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know, they're the poor that
can't really, you know, and she

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wasn't poor.
The people that he robbed, a lot

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of them, you know, you know
they've.

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Saved up the retirement fund and
then all of a sudden this great

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opportunity comes by that is
referred to them by either

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somebody that they know or their
children.

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And it's a new way to make money
and then you put your retirement

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into it and then because they're
fleecing this and then you get.

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Screwed as long as you're
friendly.

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It's it's easier to fleece old
people because remember, you

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know, I don't talk to you
everyday.

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I don't have any, but I'm alone,
not I'm married, my wife.

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No, I'm not alone.
But if I was alone and I lived

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in Florida and you know, when
I'm getting by and I save, you

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know, 3400 grand, I think 200
grand is the average amount the

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people have saved in a lifetime.
Something around there, you

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know, and then they live off of
that with their Social Security

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and they're barely getting by.
And then some young kid calls me

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and he starts talking to me
about things that are of

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interest to me.
And he engages me in

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conversation when nobody else
will.

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And he becomes my friend.
And then he takes my money, you

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know, and, and, and then I have,
Nope.

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I cannot afford rent anymore
because he can't take my Social

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Security.
We can take all my savings.

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And, and that's what they were
doing.

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And I just don't understand the
level of how horrible you could

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be to take the money of an old
person and make them homeless or

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near homeless so you could have
a better time today.

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And I just that, that, that
mentality, I just, I, I just, I

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just want to hit him with a bat,
you know, And that's why when

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people.
Lazy too, if you think about.

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It when people elevate Jordan
Belfort and the wolf on Wall

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Street, you know, it's like, I
just want to beat the guy with a

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bat that just that, you know,
that is just, you know, and and

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he's never paid the money back.
No, and he made.

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A bunch of money off the movie
and he was hiding it and then

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they went after it and there's
all these different things that

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happen, you know, but it's just
like.

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What's interesting too is what
you were talking about, the 457

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people, 457,000 people awaiting
trial, but the median bail

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amount is $10,000.
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The bail and, and one of the
myths in the prison policy is

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that, you know, bail makes
people cut and it doesn't.

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It doesn't, it doesn't, it
doesn't increase the crime rate.

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It doesn't do anything other
than it puts poor people in jail

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and makes the system earn more
money or it costs more money.

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And if it's in a, if it's in a,
you know, you got bail bondsman,

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you got all these different
people that are making money off

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of the system.
When in fact, we, we, we should

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try to figure out different ways
to limit the amount.

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You know, it's like private
prisons, 22 states don't allow

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them.
You know, it's predominantly red

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states going to politics.
They allow private prisons and

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they were actually in a downturn
after COVID because so many few

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people being arrested.
It really dropped.

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You know, people are being
nicer.

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I don't know, crime rate dropped
and you know, and it's the

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violent crime rates down.
Everything's down.

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So it's like, well, how are we
going to squeeze more money out

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of this egg?
And the way they're doing it is

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they push the immigration
policy.

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So private prisons have spiked
up because they're now

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incarcerating immigrants.
What I'm thinking about too is

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if you have a private prison
complex and you're getting paid

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by the state, the average or
median, sorry median not average

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cost per prisoner in the US is
around $65,000 is what I'm

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familiarized with, but also in
some states.

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It exceeds. $100,000 per inmate
per year, and that's not crazy,

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Yeah.
And and and and.

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And.
What exactly is that doing?

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Well, I mean, what, what?
What?

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I mean, what is the point of
prison?

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Is it vengeance?
Yes.

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Is it that does it?
Do you want to have people

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incarcerated who don't do the
crime again?

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I mean, I think back through my
lifetime and my interactions

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with police and when police
should have interacted.

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I can go back to when.
I mean, the first time I got

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caught shoplifting, they just
scared me.

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They didn't do anything.
The second time, when my brother

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and I were robbed at night
point, you know, we didn't do

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anything.
We went to the neighbor, the

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kid.
There were two, two guys that

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did it.
We went to one and went talk to

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the dad and the dad was like a
normal guy and was just like my

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son did that.
And then he was that kid is on

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the straight and narrow or he's
now older than me at the time

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now, but but, but that changed
everything.

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We didn't go to the police and
say arrest this guy for armed

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because it would have been armed
robbery and they were 16 or 17

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years old.
And it's like what would have

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happened?
And and you know, did I did I

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did we stop somebody from do we
do we by talking to him and

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keeping that kid out of jail and
having him never go do anything

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bad again?
I mean, I didn't track his whole

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history and everything, but he
turned out to be a normal guy.

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The other guy was just a just a
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You know bugs have.
Happened, you know.

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But then I, I, I have been, I
got DWIS, you know, in the 80s,

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like plural, you know, and, and
I remember going in and it's

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like it that I, I don't see it.
And that is one of the missing

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policy is, is that if you, if
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it again.
And the answer is no, it's not

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because anybody, and I don't
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our listeners that have
committed crimes that did you

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actually think about the
consequences before you did it?

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I mean, I don't, you know, you
know, there's so many crimes of

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passion and things like that,
but I'm not quite sure a lot of

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people really care about the
consequences.

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You know, when you when you
drink 8 beers at a bar and you

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hop in your car and drive home,
you don't think that being

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pulled over and being arrested
and going to jail overnight and

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having your having your car, you
know, impounded and then paying

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$1000 to get the car out, paying
a couple $1000 for a lawyer,

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$1000 for a fine.
And then being on this Sr. 71,

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whatever the insurance is for
three years, which adds 5 GSA

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year to your insurance bill.
So insurance companies make a

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lot of money.
Police make money, court system

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gets cluttered more, you know,
and it's like, and did that

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change anything in me?
What I think about is my

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reckless speeding ticket that
was on federal property, right?

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And I was, I was going really
fast, I will agree with that.

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But the punishment I remember
was a $400.00 fine or it was a

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year in jail.
And I was like, wow, that's

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crazy.
It was either or and I've never

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heard it be that very that
visible like it that apparent

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that those with lower
socioeconomic reaches would have

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to take a year off their life
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That's crazy.
And I think it was, it was so

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different because it was on a
federal park property or

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whatever, like that was on
Turkey, which is funny as if you

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think about it, you have.
Speed all the time.

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You have the the GW Parkway,
which is, yeah, that was where

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it was.
It was on federal property and

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what do you know?
I've I've never gone over 90 on

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the GW.
He can, it's just difficult.

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Not anymore, no.
In the in the vehicles I've had

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even with the Porsche, the
Porsche, I mean, actually the

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fastest I ever went on there was
with my I think with my pickup

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truck, I.
Think it was in like 86 or

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something, but it was for like 4
seconds and it was long enough

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for that guy to clock me.
Yeah, but.

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You were doing it in the
straightaway, which is where

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they all hang out, which is
like.

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Yeah, you know exactly.
I remember when that happened.

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I.
Was like and they they policed

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the lower part, not the upper
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Yeah, he was just driving too.
Yeah, he wasn't even.

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He wasn't even on the sides.
Yeah.

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You blew past him.
Yeah, I think I was.

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What was that, like 19?
Yeah, something like that.

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But I.
Never.

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I never got a ticket in the
Porsche.

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That's crazy.
Of all the things that I

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remember my my mom had
Alzheimer's and I would go pick

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her up on Sunday mornings and
then we go out on 66 and I just

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blow it out.
And that's where I would do the

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fastest thing I've ever been.
It's like 135 when right in that

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range there with my mom in the
passenger's seat.

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And I would tell him, I told her
I said, hey, if we could pull

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over.
You tell him you were driving.

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She's like, OK all.
Right.

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We, we were driving down the
road at 66 on a Sunday morning

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at like 7:30 in the morning of
all stupid things going out

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towards Front Royal.
And I remember there was this SK

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Mercedes that goes past us and
we're doing 90 right.

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And I'm like going, hey, mom,
look over to the right.

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And, and I said, when we pass
them, I want you to wave at

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them.
So I just floored it.

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And that's what I did my fastest
ever.

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I think I did 140 or 138 some
somewhere in there 'cause I'm

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not really looking at the
speedometer.

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I'm looking over doing this,
this, this, this, trying to make

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sure that I don't kill anybody.
But if we passed them, 'cause

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they were only doing like one,
15120 just blew past them and

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they were, they looked over and
my mom waved at him like this.

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She waved at him like this.
So it's the most insulting thing

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in the world.
You can do, you know, and you're

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like, Oh my gosh, you know, that
was just crazy, just crazy good

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old days.
But I, you know, when you think

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about that, I, I mean, I ran on
the ball field and like mid 90s,

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I was like mid 30s.
I got arrested for criminal

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trespass and I didn't interrupt
the game.

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It was a, it was a rain delay.
They pull the tarp out across

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the whole field.
The Cardinals are playing the

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Warriors.
It was in the, the new stadium.

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And for all you people that want
to know, there is a jail and a

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new stadium and yours truly has
been in it.

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But I, you know, I was there
with a, with a bunch of people.

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We drank a case of beer in the
90 minute drive up.

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And then I went to Boob Pals and
we got double bourbons and, you

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know, really a lot of thinking
going on here and I and then I

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was with one guy that said, hey,
it's only $50 fine if you're on

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the field.
And I'm like, Oh my God, I'd do

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that.
That'd be cool.

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And it was a rain delay, so I
figured sliding on that tarp

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would be amazing.
And so we get down to the bottom

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and my partner, our business
partner was there and he comes

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up to me and he goes.
Give me your keys.

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Give me your keys.
And I'm not thinking because I'm

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pretty hammered and I hand him
my keys and I don't understand

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why he wants my keys because he
knew I was going to jail and I,

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you know, didn't get it.
And so we, we, he, the, the guy

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I was with jumped over the wall
and he starts running and he's

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running towards first base.
And I realized I can't beat him.

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So I, no, I jumped over the
wall.

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I started to trot to home plate
and was going to do the whole

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round.
He blows past me and I'm like,

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I'm not going to let him beat
me.

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So I run to the, the, the
pitcher's mound and I do a front

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face slide, second base, jump
up, stand up.

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It's it's raining now, OK, And
I'm jumping up and down the.

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Whole.
Stadium goes nuts.

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It was crazy.
It was like it was the coolest

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thing in the world.
It was like when you're on a

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stage and then you start to
realize what it's why people get

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adulation, what it does, what it
does to you, because it was like

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the best drug in the world.
Then I ran.

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I slid into third base.
All the doors opened up when I

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started to stand up and the
doors all the way around opened

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up and you saw these, these
mountain size men, you know,

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656667 and and in the doorway,
in the silhouettes, you couldn't

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see anything past except for
over their shoulders, the light

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coming from inside the doors.
And there's, I don't know, 10 of

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them maybe.
And I just walked over, held my

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hands out and the guy looks at
me, shakes his head and damn,

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I'm going to miss the rest of
the game.

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And he just starts walking away.
And I just followed him up.

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And, you know, we did the whole
thing.

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And then we go to we, we, we
thought we'd be let out with a

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fine and a warning.
And they didn't do that.

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They threw us in a Paddy wagon
and took us down to Baltimore

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Central.
We got put in jail there, but

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fingerprinted and all that kind
of stuff.

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They give us a call.
I remember he called his, his

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wasn't his fiance.
He didn't ultimately marry her.

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And they have a bunch of kids
and all that stuff.

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But it was her birthday and she
was freaked out.

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It was just, it was, it was
crazy.

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I could hear her cussing at him
over the phone.

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And he was holding the phone,
outgoing Liz and the and the

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guard was sitting there
laughing.

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And then I get my call and I
call your mom.

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And I'm like, I didn't, I
didn't, I'm not going to make it

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home tonight.
And she's like, oh, you did the

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responsible thing.
And I was like, well, not

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exactly.
And she goes, you're in jail,

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aren't you?
I'm like, what, how would you

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know that?
I mean from she said, oh, you,

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you did the responsible thing.
You you rented a room.

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You're going to stay there
overnight because you had too

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much.
And I was like, not exactly.

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And she goes, you're in jail,
aren't you?

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And I was just like, how in the
hell would she know that?

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And it wasn't, there was no
caller ID, so she didn't know

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that I was calling from jail.
But she said in the morning I

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had a look in my eye and that
was crazy.

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And she knew something bad was
going to happen.

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I said, can you tell me that
next time when I go out before,

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but that that I think is that my
last arrest?

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I think I had AI did have two,
two others weapons, other shit

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like that.
What else?

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Yeah, I think that's that's the
whole gambit.

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There's like 5 or 6 times that
I've interaction with the law

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and it's like I, it was never in
the intent to hurt people, which

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doesn't always mean anything if
you're drunk and you're driving

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and you can kill people and that
happens.

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But you know, I don't, I don't,
I, I, that's my experience with

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the, with the legal system.
And it was pay the lawyers a lot

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of money to get off or to
shorten your sentence or to make

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sure that you can still work and
drive.

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I mean, I remember my DWII was
working seven days a week and

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they were trying to restrict my
driver's license and they're

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like, so so you have a job and
yeah, when do you work?

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Monday to Saturday, 6:00 to
6:00, Monday through Friday,

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6:00 to 3:00 on Saturdays.
OK, so we're going to restrict

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your license on Sundays.
And I said, well, I have a part

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time job on Sundays.
I work from 9:00 to 4:00.

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And he's like, you can't, you
got to give me a day.

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I said, what if I just do my
evenings?

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And they ended, they ended up
saying I could just take my

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evenings off.
It was just, it was comical that

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they were trying to figure out a
way to restrict my license so I

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can still go to work.
And they're like, man, you work

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too much, you know, and, and,
but it was 90 days and then the

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whole thing and then $15,000 to
the insurance company for the

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next three years.
I mean, all the things that go

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with that are just, you know,
and I never wrecked a car.

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I've never done anything like
that.

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So it's like I just paid money
to the, the ultimate grifters

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and the, the lawyer was, you
know, $1000 and.

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I'll get you off, I'll get you
off.

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We all beat all these cases all
the time.

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Well, actually, we're just going
to settle and that's there.

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Have been times when I go in and
it's like man, I would have been

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better off if I just wanted
myself.

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My God.
Jesus.

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Yeah, well, it's also, I think
they interpret it as somewhat

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disrespectful if you don't hire
an attorney, because I've seen a

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lot of these judges in the way
they react to say, oh, you're

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going to represent yourself.
You know, you really should have

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an attorney here.
And it's, I don't know, it's

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kind of like wearing AT shirt to
the court or wearing A and I

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think that's funny in itself.
It's like, you're going to send

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me to jail and I need to dress
up for you like a fucking

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monkey.
Like what the fuck is that

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about?
When we ran on the field, we

443
00:24:38,200 --> 00:24:41,760
were the only two in suits and
the Baltimore County, I mean, in

444
00:24:41,760 --> 00:24:44,720
the, in the arraignment or
whatever the hell, not the

445
00:24:44,720 --> 00:24:49,440
arraignment, but actually the
trial that day they went through

446
00:24:49,840 --> 00:24:53,000
and they stated all these
different people and stating is

447
00:24:53,000 --> 00:24:55,880
where they're going to set the
verdict aside.

448
00:24:56,800 --> 00:24:59,200
And then if you commit a crime
in the next 12 months, then they

449
00:24:59,200 --> 00:25:01,560
will come back and sentence you
for that crime and the crime

450
00:25:01,560 --> 00:25:03,520
that you already committed, No.
They didn't give you some suit?

451
00:25:04,480 --> 00:25:08,400
No, they gave me a jumpsuit on
the day that we arrested, but we

452
00:25:08,400 --> 00:25:13,520
actually went to court like nine
months later and you know. 2.

453
00:25:14,200 --> 00:25:16,480
Grand lawyers and all this other
stuff like that.

454
00:25:16,920 --> 00:25:22,160
But I remember that they, they
stared at everybody.

455
00:25:22,760 --> 00:25:26,520
I mean, they, they had, they had
strong arm robberies and all

456
00:25:26,520 --> 00:25:27,640
sorts of stuff.
And they're letting all these

457
00:25:27,640 --> 00:25:30,200
people go and they didn't say a
question.

458
00:25:30,360 --> 00:25:35,600
But then the judge looks at me
and goes and he says, you too

459
00:25:35,680 --> 00:25:38,200
step forward.
So we step forward.

460
00:25:38,200 --> 00:25:40,040
Out of out of all the people
there, we're the only ones in

461
00:25:40,040 --> 00:25:44,440
suits, you know, we're also, you
know, and he's like, what in the

462
00:25:44,440 --> 00:25:48,200
world possessed you to interrupt
a game?

463
00:25:48,200 --> 00:25:49,800
And I was like, I didn't
interrupt the game.

464
00:25:50,400 --> 00:25:56,960
We just ran on the field.
And then he said, he goes, why

465
00:25:57,120 --> 00:26:00,320
did you do it?
And my lawyer told me beforehand

466
00:26:00,320 --> 00:26:03,360
that he was a Big O's fan.
And he said, if you admitted to

467
00:26:03,360 --> 00:26:05,800
drinking or anything like that,
he's going to add that to the

468
00:26:05,800 --> 00:26:07,360
offense and charge you right
there.

469
00:26:07,880 --> 00:26:11,240
So he said, and he goes, why did
you do it?

470
00:26:11,600 --> 00:26:14,080
I'm sitting there going like,
should I lie to the judge?

471
00:26:14,640 --> 00:26:18,560
And my lawyer stepped forward.
This, this is the reason that I

472
00:26:18,560 --> 00:26:21,080
paid him.
He goes, it was youthful

473
00:26:21,080 --> 00:26:27,280
exuberance.
I was 35 and, but, and the judge

474
00:26:27,280 --> 00:26:29,600
just looked at him and looked at
me and I'm like, and I and I

475
00:26:29,600 --> 00:26:32,800
just kind of like pointed at
him, like I didn't say anything.

476
00:26:33,440 --> 00:26:36,720
And then he started us too.
And then we, you know, it was

477
00:26:36,720 --> 00:26:39,080
supposedly expunged for my
records, but I still can't get

478
00:26:39,080 --> 00:26:43,800
Global Entry because of that.
You had it for a while though, I

479
00:26:43,840 --> 00:26:45,320
remember.
I had it for a while and they

480
00:26:45,320 --> 00:26:48,760
figured out I had criminal
trespass of a ballpark, which I

481
00:26:48,760 --> 00:26:52,120
guess is, you know, is a horror,
a crime worse than terrorism or

482
00:26:52,120 --> 00:26:53,120
something.
I have no idea.

483
00:26:53,120 --> 00:26:54,800
Well.
It's like any crime I think is

484
00:26:54,840 --> 00:26:57,240
it will get it stripped.
I think that that's kind of.

485
00:26:57,320 --> 00:26:58,760
I don't think so.
Really.

486
00:26:59,040 --> 00:27:01,120
Yeah, I, I, I, you know, I don't
know.

487
00:27:01,240 --> 00:27:03,920
I, I have no idea.
I, I don't know how the system

488
00:27:03,920 --> 00:27:07,320
works, but we were told that a
record was a sponged.

489
00:27:07,600 --> 00:27:10,960
But when I went to the guy that
was, you know, when he checks in

490
00:27:11,600 --> 00:27:14,200
and a global entry, they're
like, nothing's expunged once,

491
00:27:14,240 --> 00:27:16,120
once you're in, you're in,
you're in the system forever.

492
00:27:16,160 --> 00:27:18,760
Don't, don't let people lie to
you and say that you get

493
00:27:18,760 --> 00:27:20,400
removed.
You get removed from the public

494
00:27:20,400 --> 00:27:26,360
record system, but not from the
FBI system, not from the ICE

495
00:27:26,360 --> 00:27:27,960
system.
None of those systems take your

496
00:27:27,960 --> 00:27:29,920
records away.
You're, you're, you're in there.

497
00:27:29,920 --> 00:27:31,760
You're in there forever once you
get in.

498
00:27:31,760 --> 00:27:34,800
And that's why people are so
don't, don't get, don't get a

499
00:27:34,800 --> 00:27:38,280
number once you get a number
because I, I got my numbers, you

500
00:27:38,280 --> 00:27:41,400
know, but.
Speaking of which, you see in

501
00:27:41,400 --> 00:27:45,600
the news those ICE detainees
have mysteriously disappeared

502
00:27:45,600 --> 00:27:47,800
from Crocodile Alligator
Alcatraz.

503
00:27:47,960 --> 00:27:50,320
I don't.
What does that mean?

504
00:27:50,760 --> 00:27:52,600
What does that mean?
Disappeared.

505
00:27:52,800 --> 00:27:55,640
Well, I mean, people in the
federal justice system disappear

506
00:27:55,640 --> 00:27:59,520
all the time, so I mean.
Yeah, I think that that it's

507
00:28:01,240 --> 00:28:03,760
that and then nobody will be
held accountable.

508
00:28:03,760 --> 00:28:06,960
And I think that The thing is,
is, and we talk about laws

509
00:28:07,360 --> 00:28:10,080
trying to keep people
accountable and yet we don't

510
00:28:10,080 --> 00:28:12,480
keep the legal people
accountable.

511
00:28:12,480 --> 00:28:16,280
The like the prosecutors that
make up shit to get people and

512
00:28:16,280 --> 00:28:17,800
put them in jail.
And then they find out years

513
00:28:17,800 --> 00:28:21,640
later that they lied or they
misstated or they hid evidence

514
00:28:21,960 --> 00:28:29,640
that that would have exonerated
the subject that that nothing

515
00:28:29,640 --> 00:28:32,520
happens to him.
And it's like, OK, so you only

516
00:28:32,520 --> 00:28:37,000
care if my record is on wins, so
I'm just going to make a win no

517
00:28:37,000 --> 00:28:38,880
matter what.
And then you're not going to

518
00:28:38,880 --> 00:28:41,760
punish me if I cheat, you know?
And then you sort of think like

519
00:28:41,880 --> 00:28:44,640
a man that just gives you such a
dirty taste, you know?

520
00:28:44,640 --> 00:28:47,600
And I think that's why that's
why I have a not a very positive

521
00:28:47,600 --> 00:28:49,040
view of the police because I
haven't.

522
00:28:50,120 --> 00:28:53,040
I'm trying to think where
they've helped me, you know?

523
00:28:53,800 --> 00:28:56,040
Well, that would show.
Up after the crime is committed.

524
00:28:56,040 --> 00:28:58,920
You ever think about that?
Yeah, which is there's no

525
00:28:58,920 --> 00:29:00,960
prevention.
You know, they don't really

526
00:29:00,960 --> 00:29:04,640
prevent anything from happening.
I mean, we were at that school

527
00:29:04,640 --> 00:29:06,360
shooting.
They sat outside with their

528
00:29:06,360 --> 00:29:10,040
Punisher phone case and then I
think it was like 5 of them

529
00:29:10,040 --> 00:29:11,280
killed themselves.
So I'm like, you know what?

530
00:29:11,280 --> 00:29:13,360
I don't care.
I don't care at all.

531
00:29:13,400 --> 00:29:16,080
Make me feel bad for you when
you didn't do your job that

532
00:29:16,080 --> 00:29:18,960
you're paid like what $80,000 a
year to do?

533
00:29:19,400 --> 00:29:22,520
They had mothers jumping the
fence, coming in the back

534
00:29:22,520 --> 00:29:25,840
windows trying to get the kids
out and they were arresting them

535
00:29:26,040 --> 00:29:30,120
and they arrested them and
you're just like you're peting

536
00:29:30,120 --> 00:29:31,840
investigation.
No, I'm not I'm trying to save

537
00:29:31,840 --> 00:29:35,920
my kid, you know, and that and
and maybe this is just the media

538
00:29:35,920 --> 00:29:40,560
because you know, whatever, but
it but it really it, it really

539
00:29:40,560 --> 00:29:45,840
sparks to those that incarcerate
people and put 562,000 people in

540
00:29:45,840 --> 00:29:50,840
jail that are waiting trial.
I mean, drug offenses to me seem

541
00:29:51,560 --> 00:29:58,280
silly to have you pay a bond.
You know, cashless bail should

542
00:29:58,280 --> 00:30:03,400
be a should be a national thing.
I, I don't, you know, it, it,

543
00:30:03,840 --> 00:30:07,720
you know, the facts, the studies
actually prove that it doesn't

544
00:30:07,720 --> 00:30:10,800
make any that, that all it does
is save us, the federal

545
00:30:10,800 --> 00:30:14,920
government and the state
government's money, which for

546
00:30:14,920 --> 00:30:17,120
the private prison system, they
don't like that they want more

547
00:30:17,120 --> 00:30:18,600
people in.
They're always trying to get

548
00:30:18,600 --> 00:30:20,600
more people, you know, and then
they find.

549
00:30:21,080 --> 00:30:23,320
Thread that I saw, well they had
the judge.

550
00:30:23,320 --> 00:30:26,760
They had the judge in Maryland
that just that got pardoned by

551
00:30:27,280 --> 00:30:31,080
the Nazi in charge.
He got pardoned and he was the

552
00:30:31,080 --> 00:30:35,560
one that was making sure that
people got incarcerated into the

553
00:30:35,560 --> 00:30:39,120
private prison.
He was being paid by them to

554
00:30:39,120 --> 00:30:40,120
give them the.
Commonality.

555
00:30:40,640 --> 00:30:43,400
And you're like, and he didn't,
you know, And he was going to

556
00:30:43,400 --> 00:30:49,760
serve time because he put
hundreds of people in jail for

557
00:30:49,760 --> 00:30:52,200
no reason.
Well, that's what the guy said

558
00:30:52,200 --> 00:30:55,880
the thread was like.
Yeah, If you corral a couple

559
00:30:55,880 --> 00:31:00,560
investors and you buy a private
prison, he did this for 50 to 60

560
00:31:00,560 --> 00:31:02,680
million.
And in a couple of years the

561
00:31:02,680 --> 00:31:07,080
return rate was insane.
It was like 135 million within

562
00:31:07,080 --> 00:31:10,480
the first three years and then
it was a billion after the next

563
00:31:10,480 --> 00:31:13,160
eight or nine years and then
like this, this.

564
00:31:13,240 --> 00:31:17,120
Provided provided you always get
more.

565
00:31:17,120 --> 00:31:19,320
You get paid by the state a
certain amount per person.

566
00:31:20,040 --> 00:31:25,320
And, and you think to yourself,
like, why would I spend 30,040

567
00:31:25,320 --> 00:31:31,440
fifty $60,000 a year to take a
person who has an ounce of weed

568
00:31:31,600 --> 00:31:36,920
or, or even a couple grams of
coke off the street and put in

569
00:31:37,200 --> 00:31:41,720
jail when, when I could just put
them in a rehab program and

570
00:31:41,720 --> 00:31:46,360
house them for a year instead of
paying this person.

571
00:31:46,360 --> 00:31:49,040
And then there's, there's more
of a chance that, that, that

572
00:31:49,040 --> 00:31:52,880
they will not reoffend.
And that's, that's, you know,

573
00:31:52,880 --> 00:31:56,440
it's like the facts actually
prove otherwise.

574
00:31:56,760 --> 00:31:58,400
Then what?
Then what we're doing in it?

575
00:31:58,400 --> 00:32:00,440
And it's like we're, we're doing
the same thing over and over and

576
00:32:00,760 --> 00:32:04,040
people are pushing for more jail
terms and more harsher sentences

577
00:32:04,040 --> 00:32:06,200
and stuff like that.
You're thinking like, why do you

578
00:32:06,200 --> 00:32:10,240
do that?
Well, on the news, Well, if it

579
00:32:10,240 --> 00:32:12,640
was your daughter that was
raped, you know what do you?

580
00:32:12,720 --> 00:32:17,320
And you're like, really?
Do you know that the US crime

581
00:32:17,320 --> 00:32:21,080
rate too was the lowest since
it's been in well from 2024 was

582
00:32:21,320 --> 00:32:23,920
as low as 1961?
I know which is crazy.

583
00:32:24,120 --> 00:32:26,040
And then everybody.
'S it's crime?

584
00:32:26,120 --> 00:32:28,920
I'm scared.
Well, I think that we, we, we

585
00:32:28,920 --> 00:32:34,080
have a, a media apparatus that
is just always posting, yeah,

586
00:32:34,200 --> 00:32:36,840
the horrible things that happen.
Cultures of fear.

587
00:32:36,840 --> 00:32:40,320
I mean, since McCarthyism, the
America has always had an enemy,

588
00:32:40,640 --> 00:32:44,880
whether it be people that are
Muslim after 911 or whether it

589
00:32:44,880 --> 00:32:47,560
be what they're doing with trans
people now, which is like,

590
00:32:47,800 --> 00:32:51,600
there's 10 trans people in the
entire US and they're trying to,

591
00:32:51,600 --> 00:32:55,440
like, demonize this.
Less than 110th of 1%, Yeah.

592
00:32:55,440 --> 00:32:58,800
It's 110th of 1% of the states
like like Florida for instance,

593
00:32:58,800 --> 00:33:01,560
it's.
Crazy, and it makes no sense.

594
00:33:01,560 --> 00:33:04,600
Like in Florida?
Something with more of a larger

595
00:33:04,600 --> 00:33:09,240
population forms.
Like 505 hundred to 600 people

596
00:33:09,240 --> 00:33:11,920
that are trans.
So it's like you, you're making

597
00:33:11,920 --> 00:33:16,120
a law for what is the state, 30
million people it affects.

598
00:33:16,240 --> 00:33:19,320
I mean, they're spending all
that money and time and effort

599
00:33:19,320 --> 00:33:23,120
on this tiny little group and
the group doesn't do anything.

600
00:33:23,120 --> 00:33:25,680
They're not murderers.
They're not this, I mean.

601
00:33:25,840 --> 00:33:27,560
People.
Oh yeah, look what they did.

602
00:33:27,560 --> 00:33:30,960
They they.
Find one case where the guy that

603
00:33:30,960 --> 00:33:35,000
did the shooting of the Kirk guy
and he wasn't even trans and

604
00:33:35,000 --> 00:33:38,800
there's there's still a causal
link or a correlation link, but

605
00:33:38,800 --> 00:33:42,720
there isn't a causal that his
the buddy that he was living

606
00:33:42,720 --> 00:33:45,520
with was a trans.
So was he, were they lovers?

607
00:33:45,520 --> 00:33:47,880
Were they not?
We don't know, you know, there's

608
00:33:47,880 --> 00:33:50,720
all sorts of things and media,
of course, jumps to the

609
00:33:50,720 --> 00:33:54,240
conclusion that we need to kill
trans people, you know, and

610
00:33:54,240 --> 00:33:57,440
that's, and that was what the
Kirk guy was saying.

611
00:33:57,960 --> 00:34:01,120
Well, think about the Unabomber,
think about Timothy McVeigh,

612
00:34:01,480 --> 00:34:05,280
think about all the actual
terrorists in the US, think

613
00:34:05,280 --> 00:34:09,320
about the long history of
homegrown terrorists and how

614
00:34:09,320 --> 00:34:13,280
we've been more affected by them
than anybody else, any foreign

615
00:34:13,280 --> 00:34:16,760
legion or anything like that.
It's the ones that we create

616
00:34:16,760 --> 00:34:20,960
ourselves, and I think this is
the first time we see it.

617
00:34:21,159 --> 00:34:23,679
One trans person fucking I.
Have.

618
00:34:23,679 --> 00:34:26,760
Well, I saw the one where.
An assassination, which I don't

619
00:34:26,760 --> 00:34:28,920
even think is, is so far
fetched.

620
00:34:28,920 --> 00:34:32,199
It's crazy.
Like what was Kash Patel was

621
00:34:32,199 --> 00:34:36,239
talking about how he
disassembled the rifle on the

622
00:34:36,239 --> 00:34:40,840
roof and then reassembled it
later and then we're I.

623
00:34:40,840 --> 00:34:43,040
Don't believe that it.
Was crazy and then he

624
00:34:43,040 --> 00:34:45,280
reassembled it again.
I'm like what would be the point

625
00:34:45,280 --> 00:34:48,719
of him reassembling it again
after the assassination?

626
00:34:48,960 --> 00:34:51,040
'Cause he he brought it up in
his pant leg.

627
00:34:52,320 --> 00:34:58,480
Which is impossible to climb a
roof with a gun in your pant lid

628
00:34:58,480 --> 00:35:00,800
with an AR.
I don't know I I would say that

629
00:35:00,800 --> 00:35:05,280
I have had when I stole a night
stick, I stuck it down my pants

630
00:35:05,280 --> 00:35:07,840
and held up my legs and he
walked with a It's not nearly as

631
00:35:07,840 --> 00:35:08,360
long.
It's.

632
00:35:08,360 --> 00:35:11,320
But he said the rifle was
assembled when it was in his

633
00:35:11,320 --> 00:35:13,120
pants, didn't he?
Yeah, it was.

634
00:35:13,280 --> 00:35:14,200
So it wouldn't.
It didn't.

635
00:35:14,560 --> 00:35:17,160
There was no like there was,
there was no sense to it.

636
00:35:17,760 --> 00:35:20,440
And how would he know that
unless they had video on it?

637
00:35:20,440 --> 00:35:22,320
And if they had video on it, why
didn't they stop it?

638
00:35:22,760 --> 00:35:25,960
So it's like it, it's.
Now they're talking about how

639
00:35:25,960 --> 00:35:30,360
there's all these, there was
this one flight that flew from a

640
00:35:30,360 --> 00:35:35,880
local airport 4 minutes or
something South of that airport,

641
00:35:35,880 --> 00:35:39,160
and it was labeled by this one
guy and it was contracted by the

642
00:35:39,280 --> 00:35:41,480
US government at that time.
And it was crazy.

643
00:35:41,840 --> 00:35:44,160
I don't know.
It's I don't know.

644
00:35:44,160 --> 00:35:47,160
The CIA has been doing terrible
things forever.

645
00:35:47,160 --> 00:35:49,440
So I don't know.
It would be shocked me.

646
00:35:49,800 --> 00:35:53,560
If you really wanted to look at
what's doing those mass

647
00:35:53,560 --> 00:35:58,600
shootings, you know you're
you're looking at white bales

648
00:35:58,600 --> 00:36:00,600
between 1825.
Every time.

649
00:36:01,000 --> 00:36:03,480
And they're all.
Dis disenchanted and they're

650
00:36:03,480 --> 00:36:06,000
not, you know, they're
predominantly heterosexual,

651
00:36:06,720 --> 00:36:09,600
whether they're right or left.
I mean, that's the team.

652
00:36:09,600 --> 00:36:12,840
Why is why aren't why aren't
women doing it?

653
00:36:13,720 --> 00:36:15,760
You know, why aren't black
people doing it?

654
00:36:15,760 --> 00:36:18,360
Why aren't Asians doing it?
Why aren't, why aren't, you

655
00:36:18,360 --> 00:36:19,760
know, why aren't Muslims doing
it?

656
00:36:20,400 --> 00:36:22,600
I mean, you would think that
they would have a reason to go

657
00:36:22,600 --> 00:36:25,280
out and do some mass shootings,
you know, from all the hate that

658
00:36:25,280 --> 00:36:29,480
you give them, you know, so, so
why is that group, the group

659
00:36:29,480 --> 00:36:32,000
that that that seems to be
expanding, you know?

660
00:36:32,080 --> 00:36:35,040
Because I feel like all of those
other demographics have felt

661
00:36:35,040 --> 00:36:37,960
disenfranchisement forever and I
feel like.

662
00:36:38,120 --> 00:36:39,680
So they're used to it.
Yeah.

663
00:36:39,840 --> 00:36:42,040
So now when you're saying, all
right, now you got all the white

664
00:36:42,080 --> 00:36:43,440
people, it's a hard time.
I mean, you're.

665
00:36:43,520 --> 00:36:48,320
Having time specifically, I feel
disenfranchised and therefore,

666
00:36:48,320 --> 00:36:51,160
but even the under this
government standpoint, you would

667
00:36:51,160 --> 00:36:55,200
think that they would feel, I
don't know more, more support.

668
00:36:55,200 --> 00:36:56,520
I don't know, it's kind of
funny.

669
00:36:56,520 --> 00:36:59,640
Well, I think that that they're
giving them more lip service,

670
00:36:59,640 --> 00:37:01,760
but they're actually not
supporting them more.

671
00:37:01,760 --> 00:37:04,480
And that's because you're seeing
that where they're, they're

672
00:37:04,480 --> 00:37:06,600
cutting the programs that help
the people.

673
00:37:06,880 --> 00:37:09,440
You know, the mental health
programs are cut back by

674
00:37:09,760 --> 00:37:12,680
billions.
The I mean one thing after the

675
00:37:12,680 --> 00:37:17,360
other that is supporting and
hopefully, you know, job growth

676
00:37:17,360 --> 00:37:27,120
programs, score program or core.
The what was the one that God, I

677
00:37:27,120 --> 00:37:28,240
can't remember it.
Peace Corps.

678
00:37:28,600 --> 00:37:31,160
I mean, one after the other,
getting hammered and getting

679
00:37:31,160 --> 00:37:32,440
caught.
And you know, when you're

680
00:37:32,440 --> 00:37:37,000
thinking like and, and you know,
the, the unemployment of the

681
00:37:37,000 --> 00:37:40,640
youth is really high.
And this is, that's a recipe for

682
00:37:40,640 --> 00:37:42,480
terrorism in any, in any
country.

683
00:37:42,880 --> 00:37:48,240
Well, I'm looking at job kind of
or the ability to get a job out

684
00:37:48,240 --> 00:37:52,000
here due to the industry
absolutely falling apart.

685
00:37:52,000 --> 00:37:56,240
And I'm thinking to myself, I
remember when I was 16 and 15

686
00:37:56,240 --> 00:38:00,360
and then 17 or whatever and how
I was able to get a job by just

687
00:38:00,360 --> 00:38:03,000
calling places, right, right.
And how I worked at McLane

688
00:38:03,000 --> 00:38:05,040
Hardware, what have you.
And I'm like, does the use of

689
00:38:05,040 --> 00:38:06,680
today even have that
opportunity?

690
00:38:06,680 --> 00:38:08,480
Like I don't see kids working
anymore.

691
00:38:08,640 --> 00:38:12,040
Like I don't see like teenagers
having that first work

692
00:38:12,040 --> 00:38:14,720
experience and I'm like, if
they're not able to establish

693
00:38:14,720 --> 00:38:17,800
work experience now, like that's
going to be, it's going to be a

694
00:38:17,800 --> 00:38:18,280
problem.
It's.

695
00:38:18,760 --> 00:38:21,720
Going to be a different society.
Well, The thing is, is that when

696
00:38:21,720 --> 00:38:26,960
you go to McDonald's and you get
something, it's Hispanic or it's

697
00:38:26,960 --> 00:38:29,640
old people.
Oh, the work now.

698
00:38:29,760 --> 00:38:31,120
Is that what?
You yeah, I mean, that's what

699
00:38:31,120 --> 00:38:32,640
you see when you go into rural
places.

700
00:38:32,640 --> 00:38:35,720
It's always, you know, retired
Bob is the checker and you're

701
00:38:35,720 --> 00:38:40,040
just like, Oh my gosh.
And I don't, I'm that's

702
00:38:40,040 --> 00:38:42,480
antidotal.
I don't have statistics in front

703
00:38:42,480 --> 00:38:45,960
of me that say that that's true.
But I know that a lot of people

704
00:38:46,160 --> 00:38:49,400
cannot survive.
So they need to get that income.

705
00:38:49,680 --> 00:38:51,880
So you see them all working at
Home Depot, you see them all

706
00:38:51,880 --> 00:38:54,600
getting jobs that you know,
there those places.

707
00:38:54,600 --> 00:38:58,760
So you know, your opportunities
have dried up because I, because

708
00:38:58,760 --> 00:39:04,640
when I was a kid, I could get a
construction job once I turned

709
00:39:04,640 --> 00:39:10,160
18 in five days, I could get 1
somewhere, you know, very

710
00:39:10,160 --> 00:39:14,640
quickly.
I could get a like a Pizza Hut

711
00:39:14,640 --> 00:39:17,080
restaurant server dishwasher or
something like that.

712
00:39:17,440 --> 00:39:20,400
I could get that in a day.
I could, I could absolutely just

713
00:39:20,440 --> 00:39:22,320
the, the restaurants, I would
just walk to them.

714
00:39:22,520 --> 00:39:24,960
It wasn't, it wasn't online.
You didn't do all this kind of

715
00:39:25,280 --> 00:39:27,720
hokey, pokey shit where you got
to fill out forms and do all the

716
00:39:27,720 --> 00:39:29,480
stuff.
You'd show up and say hey, you

717
00:39:29,480 --> 00:39:32,760
got help wanted, can I help you?
Or you knew people that were

718
00:39:32,760 --> 00:39:35,800
hiring and your friends were.
They got a job somewhere and

719
00:39:35,800 --> 00:39:37,400
they would tell you.
Oh yeah, we need more.

720
00:39:37,400 --> 00:39:39,520
People and you would either go
like, hey, I want to work with

721
00:39:39,520 --> 00:39:42,040
Zach or now Zach's an asshole, I
don't want to work with him.

722
00:39:42,040 --> 00:39:45,120
I want to go work with Billy Bob
because Billy Bob is a nice guy

723
00:39:45,120 --> 00:39:46,600
and I want to go and be friends
with him.

724
00:39:46,920 --> 00:39:49,920
So then you would do that and
that that moved you around.

725
00:39:50,920 --> 00:39:53,160
I mean, the thing about the
Internet too is that it's this

726
00:39:53,160 --> 00:39:56,680
falsified notion of productivity
which is like, it doesn't, I

727
00:39:56,720 --> 00:39:59,800
don't know, It just doesn't work
as well as.

728
00:40:00,240 --> 00:40:04,240
Significantly raised commerce.
Like I've gone in to places and

729
00:40:04,240 --> 00:40:06,360
they say apply online.
I'm like, I'm I'm here.

730
00:40:06,640 --> 00:40:08,600
Like I don't, I don't understand
that.

731
00:40:08,920 --> 00:40:11,080
And then they're like, well,
like, yeah, this out of the

732
00:40:11,080 --> 00:40:12,760
other.
But now you have here,

733
00:40:12,760 --> 00:40:19,880
especially in LA, this really
high, highly educated population

734
00:40:19,880 --> 00:40:23,520
that just got fired, that have
been working for 8 to 9 years in

735
00:40:23,520 --> 00:40:26,640
these industry kind of jobs such
as executive assistant.

736
00:40:26,640 --> 00:40:28,480
I looked at this woman's resume
the other day.

737
00:40:28,480 --> 00:40:29,960
A friend sent it to me.
She's like, can you help her

738
00:40:29,960 --> 00:40:31,800
find work?
She's been working as an

739
00:40:31,800 --> 00:40:33,880
executive assistant for 9 or 10
years.

740
00:40:33,960 --> 00:40:38,520
And I'm like, no, I can't.
She's more qualified than me in

741
00:40:38,520 --> 00:40:40,600
every single facet of the
industry.

742
00:40:40,600 --> 00:40:42,400
And I'm like it's.
Crazy.

743
00:40:42,400 --> 00:40:44,120
So you copy your resume and
you've submitted that.

744
00:40:44,240 --> 00:40:47,680
As well then now that woman is
competing with people that don't

745
00:40:47,680 --> 00:40:51,920
have that level of one work
history or also education,

746
00:40:52,160 --> 00:40:53,760
right?
So it's like you're going to

747
00:40:53,760 --> 00:40:57,400
have this very highly educated
working class, which is going to

748
00:40:57,400 --> 00:40:58,840
be very interesting in the
coming.

749
00:40:58,840 --> 00:41:03,200
Well, you realize that that
that's going to change that,

750
00:41:03,200 --> 00:41:05,120
that you're not going to be
getting educated.

751
00:41:05,120 --> 00:41:07,000
You're going to slow down on
that because you're going to go

752
00:41:07,000 --> 00:41:09,200
to work earlier and earlier.
And you're starting to see that

753
00:41:09,840 --> 00:41:14,040
a lot of states are changing the
state working laws for kids

754
00:41:14,040 --> 00:41:18,800
because I couldn't get a real
job until I was 1615 and eight

755
00:41:18,800 --> 00:41:20,000
months.
I think it was something like

756
00:41:20,080 --> 00:41:22,280
that because you couldn't, you
weren't allowed to work more

757
00:41:22,280 --> 00:41:25,560
than six hours and you had to
have a break at every three

758
00:41:25,560 --> 00:41:27,920
hours.
And, and they all violated that.

759
00:41:27,920 --> 00:41:30,120
I got AI got a job when I was 15
and a half, 16.

760
00:41:30,120 --> 00:41:32,120
And before that I worked as a
paperboy.

761
00:41:32,560 --> 00:41:34,600
And that's when we got robbed.
But that was another thing all

762
00:41:34,600 --> 00:41:37,600
together.
But it's like, and, and I just

763
00:41:37,600 --> 00:41:39,600
went to work.
My brother was at a restaurant

764
00:41:39,600 --> 00:41:41,800
and I went there and they're
like, oh, OK, work.

765
00:41:42,000 --> 00:41:44,200
You wash the pots and you know,
they show you how to wash the

766
00:41:44,200 --> 00:41:46,440
pots and they did tell you do a
shitty job and you do them

767
00:41:46,440 --> 00:41:48,240
again.
And you know, they tell you how

768
00:41:48,240 --> 00:41:51,960
to do the dish Rd. the dish rack
and run it to the dishwasher

769
00:41:51,960 --> 00:41:54,880
and, and you do it and spray
them off.

770
00:41:54,880 --> 00:41:59,240
And it's, it's, it's mindless,
simple, redundant work, but it

771
00:41:59,240 --> 00:42:02,000
needs to be done because you
need, you need specification

772
00:42:02,000 --> 00:42:03,800
people.
You can't just dump stuff in

773
00:42:03,800 --> 00:42:06,720
them, you know, especially when
you're serving food and and

774
00:42:06,720 --> 00:42:08,920
they're looking more and more to
these automated, you see

775
00:42:08,920 --> 00:42:11,600
automated food places, right?
Yeah.

776
00:42:12,280 --> 00:42:13,160
Where you go?
In the the.

777
00:42:13,360 --> 00:42:15,000
Kiosks you.
Yeah.

778
00:42:15,240 --> 00:42:17,160
And now, now that's the front of
it.

779
00:42:17,200 --> 00:42:20,320
In the back of it, they're
figuring out more and more ways

780
00:42:20,880 --> 00:42:23,840
to allow you to pick.
I want a cheeseburger, a Coke

781
00:42:23,880 --> 00:42:27,480
and a a fries.
And it will cook them, measure

782
00:42:27,480 --> 00:42:30,240
them, put them into a bag.
And then you know what?

783
00:42:30,240 --> 00:42:32,560
At some point you're going to
see just come out on a conveyor

784
00:42:32,560 --> 00:42:35,320
and you're going to pick it up.
I think it would.

785
00:42:35,320 --> 00:42:38,960
Be one person instead of 10 in
the back, you know, and that's

786
00:42:39,520 --> 00:42:42,240
what we're seeing.
I, I think the biggest thing

787
00:42:42,240 --> 00:42:45,040
that we're going to see that
it's going to, that it's going

788
00:42:45,080 --> 00:42:48,720
to change the way we do things
is when we have automated

789
00:42:48,720 --> 00:42:51,720
driving.
We already kind of see that way,

790
00:42:51,720 --> 00:42:54,000
MO.
We're starting to see it, but

791
00:42:54,000 --> 00:42:55,640
we're not.
We're not really seeing, I mean,

792
00:42:55,640 --> 00:42:57,920
when you look.
At the number in the big cities

793
00:42:57,920 --> 00:43:01,440
here, it's really popular yeah,
the number of.

794
00:43:01,440 --> 00:43:07,560
People that do that do Uber and
taxis, which is a mindless job.

795
00:43:08,600 --> 00:43:10,520
You just got to have a car or
you got to have a friend that

796
00:43:10,520 --> 00:43:11,880
has a car.
Well, you have to have a car

797
00:43:11,880 --> 00:43:15,280
that's actually was in the past
two years.

798
00:43:16,000 --> 00:43:19,160
It it has to be a new model.
Yeah, which is interesting.

799
00:43:19,160 --> 00:43:23,080
I didn't know that.
You think about that and and

800
00:43:23,080 --> 00:43:27,520
that is just, that's crazy.
That is just it, it's just those

801
00:43:27,520 --> 00:43:31,320
people, they're going to be out
of jobs, you know, and they're

802
00:43:31,320 --> 00:43:34,680
and they're, they were doing
well and now they squeeze them.

803
00:43:34,680 --> 00:43:38,440
So now they're doing OK, and
soon enough they'll be

804
00:43:38,440 --> 00:43:42,000
subsistence, and then they will
be eliminated, you know.

805
00:43:42,200 --> 00:43:44,360
Well, you're.
Going to see what I really want

806
00:43:44,360 --> 00:43:47,880
to see is so automation is going
to move in.

807
00:43:47,880 --> 00:43:52,360
You're going to see that kind of
upper class and then lower class

808
00:43:52,360 --> 00:43:55,440
kind of divide even more.
There's going to be a lot more

809
00:43:55,440 --> 00:43:57,120
murders that are going to be
happening.

810
00:43:57,560 --> 00:43:59,120
There's going to be that.
We're going to see the angry

811
00:43:59,120 --> 00:44:00,960
white.
Guy that can't get a job, you

812
00:44:00,960 --> 00:44:02,360
know there's.
Going to be that guy that flew

813
00:44:02,360 --> 00:44:04,800
his plane at the IRS.
There's going to be people like

814
00:44:04,800 --> 00:44:06,160
that.
There's going to be, it's going

815
00:44:06,160 --> 00:44:08,240
to be a lot more within the next
10 years.

816
00:44:08,440 --> 00:44:10,360
And I'm excited because they
deserve it.

817
00:44:10,360 --> 00:44:12,280
I mean.
Is it the, is the government

818
00:44:12,280 --> 00:44:14,800
system problem or is it the
people's problem?

819
00:44:14,800 --> 00:44:16,880
It's the corporation.
I mean, you get to the roots,

820
00:44:16,880 --> 00:44:18,560
guys, in immigration.
We're talking about the

821
00:44:18,560 --> 00:44:21,480
problems, but now we're getting
to the root of incarceration.

822
00:44:21,480 --> 00:44:23,880
Why do people do it?
You know, why do people sell

823
00:44:23,880 --> 00:44:25,800
drugs?
They sell drugs because they

824
00:44:25,800 --> 00:44:30,640
can't get a job that will make
that kind of money doing it and

825
00:44:30,640 --> 00:44:33,920
even close to it and even
survive.

826
00:44:34,320 --> 00:44:37,160
You know, if you can't get a job
at the store that makes enough

827
00:44:37,160 --> 00:44:39,560
money so you can eat at least to
pay your Think about this.

828
00:44:39,560 --> 00:44:44,760
If you work 60 hours a week at
making a minimum wage job, you

829
00:44:44,760 --> 00:44:49,480
can't afford your rent.
I mean, forget food, rent.

830
00:44:49,640 --> 00:44:57,920
And you're like, wow, you know,
and it's like, how do you, how

831
00:44:57,920 --> 00:45:00,960
is society going to change that?
Because putting people in jail

832
00:45:00,960 --> 00:45:02,920
is not going to work.
And when you see the what is it?

833
00:45:03,640 --> 00:45:06,760
You're going to have more, a
larger homeless population.

834
00:45:06,920 --> 00:45:12,480
Homeless population is growing,
you know, and you wonder, you

835
00:45:12,480 --> 00:45:17,280
know, when you hear people on,
on TV saying that we should just

836
00:45:17,440 --> 00:45:22,480
give them, you know, lethal
injection, you're like, think

837
00:45:22,480 --> 00:45:26,160
about that, that you can say
that publicly on TV and have

838
00:45:26,160 --> 00:45:29,680
like next to no ramifications.
Oh, I'm sorry.

839
00:45:29,680 --> 00:45:31,560
I, I, you know, I spoke out of
turn.

840
00:45:33,360 --> 00:45:36,360
I I got caught.
Who said that?

841
00:45:36,920 --> 00:45:41,240
Brian Kilmeade said that on Fox
News and he said why can't why,

842
00:45:41,400 --> 00:45:43,600
You know, we have this homeless
problem because when you think

843
00:45:43,600 --> 00:45:46,320
about when you go to cities in
like in Lai don't know, do they

844
00:45:46,320 --> 00:45:48,240
bother you?
No, not at all.

845
00:45:48,360 --> 00:45:50,360
Not really.
They do their own thing here.

846
00:45:50,360 --> 00:45:53,960
You know what happened?
It was JFK who got rid of the

847
00:45:53,960 --> 00:45:56,480
asylums, I think, and ever
since.

848
00:45:56,520 --> 00:45:58,520
That was, that was Ronnie.
That was Ronnie.

849
00:45:58,520 --> 00:46:00,320
It was Reagan.
Oh yeah, sorry, my mistake.

850
00:46:00,320 --> 00:46:03,480
JFKI was actually probably the
last great president we had.

851
00:46:03,880 --> 00:46:08,000
But yeah, Reagan got rid of the
the asylums.

852
00:46:08,000 --> 00:46:12,280
And ever since then you have
people that are highly

853
00:46:12,280 --> 00:46:15,360
schizophrenic, that are
medicated, that are out in the

854
00:46:15,360 --> 00:46:18,520
streets and they kind of just do
their own thing.

855
00:46:18,520 --> 00:46:20,480
I don't know how they survive,
really.

856
00:46:20,480 --> 00:46:24,000
Frankly, I don't.
I don't understand, but they do.

857
00:46:25,000 --> 00:46:27,840
Well, you've worked with me
downtown at some.

858
00:46:28,280 --> 00:46:30,480
But there's, you've seen the
schizophrenia down there, like

859
00:46:30,480 --> 00:46:32,520
there's schizophrenia in LA,
Yeah.

860
00:46:32,520 --> 00:46:36,680
There's that's different, that's
socioeconomic purely, that's not

861
00:46:37,160 --> 00:46:38,680
whatever is out here.
Yeah.

862
00:46:38,680 --> 00:46:40,800
And you see people come in and
it's like they're, they're,

863
00:46:40,800 --> 00:46:42,760
they, they're.
And I mean, you see people come

864
00:46:42,760 --> 00:46:45,120
in and construction workers to
eat breakfast there.

865
00:46:45,760 --> 00:46:47,560
And it's like, yeah, they don't
turn anybody away.

866
00:46:47,560 --> 00:46:51,120
They, they're, they're serving.
Last time I worked there, it was

867
00:46:51,120 --> 00:46:52,920
probably a couple years.
It's been like two or three

868
00:46:52,920 --> 00:46:55,840
years since I've been there.
And every so often I just go

869
00:46:55,840 --> 00:46:58,240
and, you know, volunteer and
cook breakfast.

870
00:46:58,240 --> 00:47:01,680
And when you and I did it, you
were like, what, 1415?

871
00:47:02,440 --> 00:47:05,840
Did it for how much was it 13?
13 We did it for two weeks,

872
00:47:05,840 --> 00:47:07,920
yeah.
And, and, and it got a real

873
00:47:07,920 --> 00:47:10,040
sense of what the other side
was.

874
00:47:10,040 --> 00:47:13,200
And you got to see people every
day that came in and, you know,

875
00:47:13,200 --> 00:47:15,120
and they were wearing their tie
and their suit and everything.

876
00:47:15,120 --> 00:47:17,880
And you could tell that they
were like fighting drug

877
00:47:17,880 --> 00:47:21,600
addiction or something, just
trying to get to the day.

878
00:47:21,960 --> 00:47:25,400
But that was a lot of people.
You had fentanyl and then meth

879
00:47:25,400 --> 00:47:27,480
as well.
We don't have the meth, I don't

880
00:47:27,480 --> 00:47:30,120
think was as popular back then.
That was more crack.

881
00:47:30,520 --> 00:47:34,080
Which honestly, bring the crack
back, bring it back like that

882
00:47:34,080 --> 00:47:37,760
was back when it was, I think at
least sustainable.

883
00:47:38,040 --> 00:47:40,640
With meth you can't really even
sustain anything.

884
00:47:40,640 --> 00:47:45,000
Well, with crack they were just.
I mean, it was a way to empty

885
00:47:45,000 --> 00:47:46,720
the cities of black people.
I.

886
00:47:46,800 --> 00:47:49,720
Mean that's fair, but at the
same time in prisons?

887
00:47:49,720 --> 00:47:52,440
With black people, we pushed the
drugs on black people.

888
00:47:52,440 --> 00:47:55,120
We sold it.
The CIAI mean, my gosh, they

889
00:47:55,160 --> 00:47:57,320
were importing it, you know, and
it's well, it was really the.

890
00:47:57,320 --> 00:47:59,880
Brand.
It was the branding, I would

891
00:47:59,880 --> 00:48:02,480
say, and how George Bush.
One was doing that.

892
00:48:02,640 --> 00:48:06,280
I mean, she's so sad.
The prison sentence that

893
00:48:06,680 --> 00:48:09,080
compared to powdered cocaine,
which I think was ridiculous,

894
00:48:09,360 --> 00:48:12,840
but I'm talking about overall
consumption of crack rather than

895
00:48:12,840 --> 00:48:14,440
consumption of meth and
fentanyl.

896
00:48:14,440 --> 00:48:20,120
Well, I think is way better.
Is it interesting that meth use

897
00:48:20,120 --> 00:48:24,320
rose when during the term of
Breaking Bad?

898
00:48:25,880 --> 00:48:27,640
That doesn't shock me, but I
don't.

899
00:48:27,640 --> 00:48:29,880
Is that really true?
You're not actually true.

900
00:48:31,680 --> 00:48:33,880
I don't know but.
It seems like you just made that

901
00:48:33,880 --> 00:48:35,040
up.
I did.

902
00:48:35,520 --> 00:48:37,120
But it sounds really cool,
doesn't it?

903
00:48:37,600 --> 00:48:44,720
Did did meth?
The claim that Breaking Bad led

904
00:48:44,720 --> 00:48:47,600
to increased meth usage is
debated, and while some sources

905
00:48:47,600 --> 00:48:50,680
suggest that it shows increased
awareness, curiosity about meth,

906
00:48:51,040 --> 00:48:53,600
others argued that it did not
lead to a significant rise.

907
00:48:53,880 --> 00:48:56,920
A study indicated that there was
a 400% rise in meth smuggling in

908
00:48:56,920 --> 00:48:58,880
Britain shortly after the show
aired.

909
00:48:59,360 --> 00:49:02,000
But the show's influence rather
than the direct increase in

910
00:49:02,000 --> 00:49:03,840
usage, I think that's just a
correlation.

911
00:49:04,400 --> 00:49:06,320
Yeah, we.
Don't know if it's causation.

912
00:49:06,440 --> 00:49:10,800
No, that sounds completely from
January 2008 to September 2013.

913
00:49:11,080 --> 00:49:17,080
Now the thing pre show 2006.
Now let's look at the numbers

914
00:49:17,080 --> 00:49:20,000
reported.
There were 731,000 meth users

915
00:49:22,680 --> 00:49:25,440
during the show.
By 2012 the user dropped to

916
00:49:25,520 --> 00:49:28,400
440,000.
So it actually no it didn't.

917
00:49:29,240 --> 00:49:31,240
Yeah, I was.
Going to say, well, you said

918
00:49:31,240 --> 00:49:32,920
those.
This one's pretty made-up.

919
00:49:33,160 --> 00:49:35,000
Yeah, it is made-up.
But the but the thing that you

920
00:49:35,000 --> 00:49:40,720
forget is that during this time
we had oxy and oxy was.

921
00:49:40,720 --> 00:49:42,360
Oh yeah, that was a big.
Problem.

922
00:49:42,360 --> 00:49:44,520
You know that was the.
But you didn't have.

923
00:49:44,880 --> 00:49:46,560
Like, how sad is it?
How sad is it?

924
00:49:46,560 --> 00:49:49,080
When you think about prisons, we
think about all the people

925
00:49:49,080 --> 00:49:53,720
incarcerated for all the bad
things and the drugs that these

926
00:49:53,720 --> 00:49:59,440
people, the sack, the Sacklers,
they're the ones that owned.

927
00:50:00,480 --> 00:50:03,320
Purdue Pharma.
Purdue Pharma, they do

928
00:50:03,320 --> 00:50:07,760
Oxycontin, they distribute it.
They literally killed 10s of

929
00:50:07,760 --> 00:50:10,960
thousands of people sort of
indirectly by selling.

930
00:50:11,760 --> 00:50:14,200
Right.
Way more than that because it

931
00:50:14,280 --> 00:50:16,080
directly leads to heroin
addiction.

932
00:50:16,560 --> 00:50:18,320
Hundreds of thousands of
addicts.

933
00:50:18,320 --> 00:50:25,680
They created and not and, and,
and they made $12 billion off of

934
00:50:25,680 --> 00:50:28,960
Oxy and they're fighting.
They were fighting with the

935
00:50:28,960 --> 00:50:32,360
criminal justice system to only
pay 6 billion.

936
00:50:33,120 --> 00:50:34,800
So they're going to get to keep
6 billion.

937
00:50:35,760 --> 00:50:41,440
No one, no one, not one person,
not one executive, not one

938
00:50:41,440 --> 00:50:45,280
salesperson, no one has been
incarcerated for that.

939
00:50:45,320 --> 00:50:49,040
None.
So we think like when you, how

940
00:50:49,040 --> 00:50:51,240
can you look at and the same
thing with Enron when there was

941
00:50:51,240 --> 00:50:54,560
one person, as I was talking at
the very beginning of this, when

942
00:50:54,560 --> 00:50:59,840
you see that, that, that I want
to say guts cow.

943
00:50:59,840 --> 00:51:02,680
I can't remember his name, but
he got 10 years and he was ACFO.

944
00:51:03,080 --> 00:51:12,920
And but it's like they took,
they had 6000 employees at Enron

945
00:51:13,960 --> 00:51:18,000
and management was seriously
encouraging everyone to buy

946
00:51:18,000 --> 00:51:19,680
Enron stock, buy into the Enron
stock.

947
00:51:19,680 --> 00:51:20,960
It's going to go, go, go, go,
go.

948
00:51:20,960 --> 00:51:26,240
So like 92% of everybody there
had all their money tied up in

949
00:51:26,240 --> 00:51:29,320
Enron.
When the story hit, it went

950
00:51:29,320 --> 00:51:33,200
from, you know, being $110 a
share stock to 0.

951
00:51:33,520 --> 00:51:37,280
So people that have worked there
for 15/20/20, 5:30 years that

952
00:51:37,280 --> 00:51:42,200
had millions of dollars saved
all of a sudden had zero.

953
00:51:43,160 --> 00:51:46,200
And you think about that and you
go like, how can they do that,

954
00:51:46,600 --> 00:51:48,960
you know?
Sounds like we worked when they

955
00:51:48,960 --> 00:51:52,640
were paying the interns like 12
grand a year and it was it was

956
00:51:52,640 --> 00:51:55,720
actually just a kind of perk to
work at we work.

957
00:51:55,960 --> 00:51:58,080
Well, because you got options
and the options were going to be

958
00:51:58,160 --> 00:52:01,120
worth 100 million and then they
finally did the deal.

959
00:52:01,120 --> 00:52:02,320
Did you?
You remember the terms of the

960
00:52:02,320 --> 00:52:04,160
deal.
I no, I don't.

961
00:52:04,240 --> 00:52:08,120
If you can, you reiterate.
When when they were falling

962
00:52:08,120 --> 00:52:15,400
apart and what's the bank?
Silicon Valley Bank, SoftBank.

963
00:52:15,600 --> 00:52:20,200
SoftBank had a big position.
So SoftBank agreed to take like

964
00:52:20,200 --> 00:52:24,640
2 billion and they paid off the
CEO, who's the one that was

965
00:52:24,640 --> 00:52:27,320
robbing everybody.
They paid him like 350 million.

966
00:52:28,080 --> 00:52:33,160
And it was all predicated upon
the workers getting nothing.

967
00:52:34,360 --> 00:52:38,120
And they they stamped out all
their stock and they reissued,

968
00:52:38,480 --> 00:52:40,680
they reissued securities just
for these guys.

969
00:52:41,200 --> 00:52:46,720
And you're like, Oh my God, it
was like the most royal screwing

970
00:52:46,760 --> 00:52:51,720
of literally thousands of people
that work there for, you know,

971
00:52:51,720 --> 00:52:53,560
and they thought they made a
bunch of money and they didn't.

972
00:52:53,560 --> 00:52:56,200
And it's like, I guess that
tells you right away, don't

973
00:52:56,200 --> 00:53:00,120
trust corporate America unless
you have a very thick legal

974
00:53:00,120 --> 00:53:03,040
document.
And but you see this all the

975
00:53:03,040 --> 00:53:05,680
time where, where, where
companies, you know, rape the

976
00:53:05,880 --> 00:53:10,120
the bottom people at the bottom
and use them and rarely to the

977
00:53:10,120 --> 00:53:15,520
people at the bottom actually
when something happens, you

978
00:53:15,520 --> 00:53:16,800
know.
No.

979
00:53:17,200 --> 00:53:20,400
It's, it's very strange, but
and, and, and the sad thing is,

980
00:53:20,400 --> 00:53:23,520
is there's no, there's no
consequences.

981
00:53:23,840 --> 00:53:25,880
I mean that guy is now funded to
do something again.

982
00:53:26,040 --> 00:53:28,400
Yep, he started another.
Company and they're even talking

983
00:53:28,400 --> 00:53:31,360
about who was the woman that was
the the blood test woman.

984
00:53:33,280 --> 00:53:35,760
The blood test woman.
Yeah, she got 12 years.

985
00:53:37,200 --> 00:53:40,280
Elizabeth Holmes.
Oh yeah, I, I don't know the

986
00:53:40,280 --> 00:53:42,120
story.
I see that all over 'cause they

987
00:53:42,120 --> 00:53:46,240
did a a documentary on her about
five years ago, four years ago,

988
00:53:46,240 --> 00:53:47,080
something like that.
And I.

989
00:53:47,080 --> 00:53:51,680
I remember when she she was
dressing like Jobs, Steve Jobs

990
00:53:51,680 --> 00:53:54,240
with the black turtlenecks and
everything, and she was the

991
00:53:54,240 --> 00:53:59,400
hottest thing.
And they had investors like I

992
00:53:59,400 --> 00:54:03,240
think Buffett put money in.
Who's the guy that owns News

993
00:54:03,240 --> 00:54:06,400
Corp?
You know who they are?

994
00:54:06,720 --> 00:54:09,000
They own.
Fox News, I don't know who you

995
00:54:09,040 --> 00:54:11,120
I'm, I know about News Corp.
Yeah, yeah.

996
00:54:11,440 --> 00:54:15,120
They they.
The Murdoch's, yeah, there we

997
00:54:15,120 --> 00:54:16,440
go.
The whole bunch of people have

998
00:54:16,440 --> 00:54:18,400
put big powerful people, put
money into it.

999
00:54:18,400 --> 00:54:19,680
That's the only reason she went
to jail.

1000
00:54:20,200 --> 00:54:26,840
I mean, her, her, her, her
cohort, CFO lover, Ras Swami or

1001
00:54:26,840 --> 00:54:30,200
whatever, I don't know his name.
He got like 15 years or

1002
00:54:30,200 --> 00:54:32,520
something like that.
She got, I think 12.

1003
00:54:33,640 --> 00:54:37,800
But it's in a, you know, let's
go fed prison, which is really

1004
00:54:37,800 --> 00:54:40,120
kind of nice.
You know, that's not nice.

1005
00:54:40,160 --> 00:54:43,480
You're you're incarcerated.
I mean, being in jail is, is I,

1006
00:54:43,480 --> 00:54:47,040
I can't imagine that, you know,
having your every waking moment

1007
00:54:47,040 --> 00:54:49,120
under control is something that
could be good.

1008
00:54:49,520 --> 00:54:52,600
Well, at least you get to play
tennis, and I think that's kind

1009
00:54:52,600 --> 00:54:56,080
of nice, you know?
Somebody, one of her cohorts

1010
00:54:56,400 --> 00:54:58,960
from that business started
another blood testing program

1011
00:54:58,960 --> 00:55:00,680
and they're funding it and
you're just thinking like.

1012
00:55:01,840 --> 00:55:04,040
Well, that was the whole thing
with the guy that started the

1013
00:55:04,040 --> 00:55:08,360
metal credit card and then, no,
he started the fire festival.

1014
00:55:08,360 --> 00:55:11,760
That's what it was, yeah.
And then he was going to go to

1015
00:55:11,760 --> 00:55:15,840
prison for the fire festival
cause of the massive amount of

1016
00:55:15,840 --> 00:55:17,800
fraud.
And then he started a metal

1017
00:55:17,800 --> 00:55:20,360
credit card business.
And then he got slammed for

1018
00:55:20,360 --> 00:55:23,920
fraud again within, I think it
was within five years of the

1019
00:55:23,920 --> 00:55:26,440
fire festival.
And then now he's, I think, in

1020
00:55:26,440 --> 00:55:28,080
prison.
I think he's in prison now,

1021
00:55:28,080 --> 00:55:29,560
yeah.
Until he gets pardoned.

1022
00:55:29,760 --> 00:55:31,800
Yeah, exactly.
Because it seems like you can

1023
00:55:31,800 --> 00:55:34,520
buy a pardon, you know, for
somewhere between 1 and 5

1024
00:55:34,520 --> 00:55:36,920
million to the to the
administration.

1025
00:55:36,920 --> 00:55:38,680
And I wonder if that's just the
way it's going to be going

1026
00:55:38,680 --> 00:55:42,800
forward, that that as long as
you steal enough, you can go

1027
00:55:42,800 --> 00:55:45,720
free, You know, like the
Sacklers, they, you know,

1028
00:55:45,880 --> 00:55:50,760
billions destroyed 10s of
thousands of lives.

1029
00:55:50,920 --> 00:55:54,200
And, and what I mean, you could
always ask the question, would

1030
00:55:54,200 --> 00:55:55,360
they have been an addict
otherwise?

1031
00:55:55,360 --> 00:55:58,160
And I think a lot of people
wouldn't have been because they

1032
00:55:58,160 --> 00:56:01,800
were told and doctors, doctors
were getting kickbacks, they

1033
00:56:01,800 --> 00:56:03,680
were getting trips and all sorts
of things.

1034
00:56:03,680 --> 00:56:08,360
They still are prescribing this
drug that, you know, they were

1035
00:56:08,360 --> 00:56:10,080
saying was not addictive.
And it is.

1036
00:56:10,560 --> 00:56:11,920
I got to tell you, it's a great
drug.

1037
00:56:11,920 --> 00:56:14,520
I love oxy.
What they did too was the pain

1038
00:56:14,520 --> 00:56:18,920
scale was originally for
Oxycontin when it was initially

1039
00:56:18,920 --> 00:56:20,400
released before they did the
rebrand.

1040
00:56:20,400 --> 00:56:22,840
Because they did the rebrand,
which is what happened and why

1041
00:56:22,840 --> 00:56:25,920
it became so addictive was on a
pain scale.

1042
00:56:25,920 --> 00:56:29,560
It only covered 7 through 10 and
a lot of people don't even reach

1043
00:56:29,560 --> 00:56:33,360
7 or 10 and that's why it wasn't
being sold.

1044
00:56:33,520 --> 00:56:37,040
But then they readjusted the
pain scale from one through 9 or

1045
00:56:37,040 --> 00:56:41,600
something, and therefore you
could then prescribe it for a

1046
00:56:41,600 --> 00:56:45,040
headache or a broken leg.
Which is amazing.

1047
00:56:45,240 --> 00:56:48,400
And the way they did it, how did
they do it?

1048
00:56:48,480 --> 00:56:51,040
One of the ways they did it is
they had to get DEA approval,

1049
00:56:51,160 --> 00:56:53,920
right?
Yeah, when they put these drugs

1050
00:56:53,920 --> 00:56:56,560
out there that are, that are,
that are, what do you call them

1051
00:56:57,160 --> 00:57:00,120
addictive drugs, they have to
get signed off by the DEA and

1052
00:57:00,120 --> 00:57:02,080
this and the DEA would not sign
off on it.

1053
00:57:02,600 --> 00:57:06,720
And then the guy that was the
head DEA officer that actually

1054
00:57:07,360 --> 00:57:10,520
got hired in the interim, I
don't know what the issue was,

1055
00:57:10,960 --> 00:57:14,920
but that signed off on it.
Then he went to work for Purdue

1056
00:57:14,920 --> 00:57:17,600
Pharma afterward and he was
making like quarter $1,000,000 a

1057
00:57:17,600 --> 00:57:19,440
year.
I think I remembered that you

1058
00:57:19,440 --> 00:57:21,320
should watch that show
Painkiller.

1059
00:57:21,440 --> 00:57:22,960
Yeah, and you're just like.
Oh my God.

1060
00:57:22,960 --> 00:57:25,760
Ferris Bueller.
Ferris Bueller, the actor.

1061
00:57:26,080 --> 00:57:30,240
We just we see that the prison
systems is full of poor people.

1062
00:57:31,120 --> 00:57:35,120
Always is.
Well, it's meant to keep classes

1063
00:57:35,600 --> 00:57:37,360
the way that they're supposed to
be.

1064
00:57:37,440 --> 00:57:41,560
Quote, UN quote, which is, yeah,
separated, right.

1065
00:57:41,880 --> 00:57:44,400
And I think that that's what
it's always going to try to do.

1066
00:57:44,400 --> 00:57:47,840
And if I rob a bunch of old
people of all their money and

1067
00:57:47,840 --> 00:57:50,880
they're all destitute and some
commit suicide and all sorts of

1068
00:57:50,880 --> 00:57:54,280
things like that, and you
wonder, it's like, well, how is

1069
00:57:54,280 --> 00:57:59,360
that worse Then?
You know, Billy Bob is at the

1070
00:57:59,360 --> 00:58:03,600
corner liquor store and beats
the guy's head in with a with a

1071
00:58:03,600 --> 00:58:08,360
bat and he gets 40 years.
Well, it goes back to the

1072
00:58:08,360 --> 00:58:09,920
age-old thing.
It's like if you're driving a

1073
00:58:09,920 --> 00:58:13,600
train, would you rather run over
one person or would you rather

1074
00:58:13,600 --> 00:58:16,040
run over 5?
And it's I don't know.

1075
00:58:16,920 --> 00:58:18,840
Yeah, but you would think there
would be at least the same

1076
00:58:18,840 --> 00:58:21,280
offense.
Yeah, you would hope so.

1077
00:58:21,520 --> 00:58:22,880
You would hope because something
like.

1078
00:58:23,080 --> 00:58:25,640
That and I think the problem is
is that we we start to see that

1079
00:58:25,640 --> 00:58:29,400
there's such a disproportionate
people of four people of color.

1080
00:58:29,680 --> 00:58:31,640
You know, you always hear that.
I mean, you used to hear that

1081
00:58:31,640 --> 00:58:34,400
with the the Kirk guy say well.
Look if mostly black people are

1082
00:58:34,400 --> 00:58:36,800
in jail.
And it's like, well, because

1083
00:58:36,800 --> 00:58:38,360
they commit most crimes and
that's that.

1084
00:58:38,400 --> 00:58:43,120
That's the, that's the hell.
But then the story is is that I

1085
00:58:43,120 --> 00:58:46,560
don't get pulled over every day.
That's also just a lie too

1086
00:58:46,560 --> 00:58:53,480
'cause it's like less than 40%
so I mean well. 58% of rapes are

1087
00:58:53,480 --> 00:58:56,400
committed by white men.
Oh yeah, I mean, that doesn't

1088
00:58:56,440 --> 00:58:56,920
shock.
Me.

1089
00:58:56,920 --> 00:58:59,040
Most murders are committed by
White.

1090
00:58:59,120 --> 00:59:02,200
Men, do you know who commits or
receives the most welfare?

1091
00:59:03,400 --> 00:59:05,200
Wait, women?
Yeah, yeah.

1092
00:59:05,200 --> 00:59:09,320
So, but it's like, well, most in
percent are are all different,

1093
00:59:09,320 --> 00:59:11,520
but you start to look at these
stats and then you start to

1094
00:59:11,520 --> 00:59:14,000
really say that that it's that
it's ugly.

1095
00:59:14,000 --> 00:59:16,320
And I mean, I, I'm looking,
we've been talking for an hour

1096
00:59:16,560 --> 00:59:19,600
and I think we need to call this
Part 1 'cause I think.

1097
00:59:19,960 --> 00:59:23,920
Part 1 I'm sure we'll have a.
Part 1A This is great.

1098
00:59:24,000 --> 00:59:26,880
A lot about the private system
and, and, and our own personal

1099
00:59:26,880 --> 00:59:28,400
experiences in the private
system.

1100
00:59:28,400 --> 00:59:34,680
And it's it my, I, I, I think
it's not that it's not working

1101
00:59:35,080 --> 00:59:40,760
because we are seeing a reduced
crime rate, but we can do

1102
00:59:40,760 --> 00:59:42,840
better.
And I think that that's, that,

1103
00:59:42,840 --> 00:59:46,120
that one of the things that I
think that that we need to see

1104
00:59:46,320 --> 00:59:52,320
in society today is not to say
the right's doing it wrong or

1105
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the left's doing it wrong.
We have to start saying we can

1106
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do better as a society.
We can.

1107
00:59:59,000 --> 01:00:01,480
We can, we can.
And I agree.

1108
01:00:01,640 --> 01:00:05,480
And we have to stop pointing
fingers at, you know, you young

1109
01:00:05,480 --> 01:00:08,320
people that are coming on that
can't do this instead of saying,

1110
01:00:08,680 --> 01:00:12,240
what can we do to make it
better?

1111
01:00:12,240 --> 01:00:16,600
And I think that that would be,
I mean, I, I, I feel like we

1112
01:00:16,640 --> 01:00:19,080
should, we need a T-shirt that
says we can do better.

1113
01:00:19,400 --> 01:00:21,520
Maybe we'll drop the merchandise
line soon.

1114
01:00:22,160 --> 01:00:24,960
All right, well, you guys, thank
you for listening.

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Go check out the website and go
check out the social media.

1116
01:00:27,640 --> 01:00:30,000
We will talk to you next Friday.
See you then.

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01:00:30,360 --> 01:00:30,920
Where are you on?