Sept. 26, 2025

Episode 116: Dentists

We talk about our experiences with dentists.

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You can hear me.
Welcome back to another episode

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of A Record, My Father.
Today we're going to be talking

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about dentists.
I went about a year ago

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somewhere up in Toluca Lake, I
actually got a reminder for they

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were trying to get me to come
every six months.

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But the last time I went in,
they were telling me they're

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like, why are you even here?
Like clearly you just got your

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teeth cleaned.
And I hadn't been to the dentist

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in about a year now for two
years.

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And I was like, well, why am I
here?

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That's kind of funny.
But they tried to sell me the

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mouth guard, like the retainer
with the bottom retainer and

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then the mouth guard, right,
your mouth guard on top for a

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group price of $1200.
And I said, no, I'm going to go

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get one from the CVS.
And that's where I am today.

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They're like $7.00, right?
Yeah, 10 or. 15 Now I noticed, I

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think that they're a lot like
Doctor Dennis in particular,

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seem to push whatever is the
item that has come down that is

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voted by the American Dental
Association, that people are

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grinding their teeth too much.
So we need to have these, and

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they did custom ones and all
this other kind of stuff, 'cause

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mine, my first set, I didn't
because it's covered, but it's

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covered by insurance,
shockingly.

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So $550, you know, And then, but
slowly but surely, I ended up by

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getting an Invisalign.
And I don't, you know, so I wear

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those every night and that's
what keys my teeth kind of

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straight.
I, I went and did Invisalign

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through one doctor for two
years, which you did as well,

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because my teeth are taken.
They were taking left turns.

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I didn't realize that your teeth
always move.

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Yeah, you know that.
I had no idea.

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I mean, I'm just sorry, I'm just
stupid about teeths.

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But they move all the time.
So you know, and, and, but, but

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once you do like an Invisalign
thing, you have to wear it every

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night.
But I'm used to it so much that

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I don't I can't go to sleep
unless I got my little

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mouthpiece in, which does two
things.

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It keeps my teeth in place
because they are pretty

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straight, because people look
like, wow, your teeth are

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straight for an old fucker, you
know, and that they are.

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What are they?
They are.

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They're straight, but they're
still they're yellow as hell.

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Because I smoke and drink
coffee.

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Yeah, but that's never going to.
Change.

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But it's weird the reason why
another reason we're doing

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dentist today is I had an
appointment this morning, 65

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years old.
I have AI have a cavity right

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right in front.
Do you floss She.

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That's what she said, she said.
You're not flossing deep enough

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that I'm not not not that I'm
being too critical, you old

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fucking slow asshole, but you
got to get that shit down into

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the gum if you don't want me to
be digging a hole in your mouth.

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And I.
Said OK, and then she shot me,

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shot me and shot me again with
Mr. Novocaine and I went and I

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said doctor, doctor.
What did they did they put a

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camp on it or what?
What is the?

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No, no, they just they.
She just drilled it out with a

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with a like a mini jackhammer.
I floss pretty frequently,

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pretty much every day or every
other day.

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Then we started talking.
We talked about you and then we

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talked about Oh my God, most
embarrassing doctor's name.

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But it wasn't.
And they were because we started

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talking about doctor and I said,
what about doctor Anaal?

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And they're like and they were
laughing.

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And so we started talking about
filthy doctor names and, and

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then I said my wife, her, her
very first gynecologist name was

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what?
And they were like, what, what,

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what I and I'm like, I can't
tell you.

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It's so filthy.
And it's like, no, no, you got

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to tell me.
And I said Doctor Harry Beaver.

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And they're like so wag
bullshit.

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And I'm like, no, no, no,
really.

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Look it up.
He's actually he's a

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gynecologist in Gainesville.
We got to look that up.

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I got to look that up.
It's no, it's absolutely, it's

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it's absolutely true.
You wouldn't.

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I, I didn't when when she told
me that when she was her mother

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was taking her to her first
gynecologist when she was 12 or

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whatever the hell it was and
that that it was his name was

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Doctor Harry Beaver.
I was like, I, I just, you know,

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if I had a daughter, I wouldn't
take her to that just because

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it's like, really.
That guy seems like he's a a

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sleeper agent.
Yeah, that's that does not seem

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good.
It's like advertisement.

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Hey, but Harry Beaver, what are
you doing?

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Well, there was that
gynecologist and he goes, Yep.

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There was that guy that makes
sense in row with Beach when he

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was in the movie theaters, how
they advertise the local

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advertisements and they said
what was he was like, we'll put

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you to sleep while we do your
dental stuff.

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And it was this weird mustache
man.

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They do that all the time.
But the the photo was of a weird

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mustache man smiling and I I'll
never forget that.

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And I was like I would not want
to be asleep around that guy

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ever.
That guy looks evil.

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Yeah.
But yeah, you, you look and you

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see that there's, there's
there's things that create

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opportunity for people and they,
they go to those.

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I mean the they go to those we
call them when they do that type

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of work, whether they be
priests, whether they be

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coaches, baseball, football or
football coaches, you know, or,

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or wrestling coaches or
whatever.

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They they they move to to that
area so they can, you know, do

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their little, you know, did a
little kids.

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This is what we need to talk
about when we're talking about

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dentists.
But anyways.

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This is a great so I try this is
getting through.

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Yes, it's actually not making
me.

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But I.
Could say some filthy stuff, but

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I.
Remember in elementary school,

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they had a, a local dentist that
was opening up come in and she

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was teaching us how to brush our
teeth improperly 'cause she

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didn't know what, how to brush
teeth.

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And then she was like, come get
your teeth brushed at the local

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pediatric whatever dentistry.
And that's crazy that there was

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an advertisement during lunch at
a public elementary school.

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I will never forget that.
And I I was like, how do they

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let this happen?
It was like APSA, but it was

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APSA disguised as an
advertisement, which was

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interesting.
Let's see what that's they,

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they've been doing that for
years, you know, to a certain

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degree, but now it's even, it's
much, much worse.

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Now they're letting those Psas
write plans for students and

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paying them to write plans and
those plans in queue include

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using their services.
So it's very, you know, it's

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basically like you pay me to
write you a plan and the plan is

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that you pay me to write you a
plan.

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Yeah, I know.
That's exactly what I'm

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realizing.
You're like, well, my gosh, this

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is tax dollar is crazy that I
mean this current stuff.

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But anyway, Dennis, I go back.
Do you have Dennis horror

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stories?
Not really.

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I went to one recently.
They did a great job.

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But I really, you know, you want
to know when I noticed is that

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Moll was an amazing dentist and
she, when she would scrape my

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teeth, I was like, I actually
knew that she was doing

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something.
Whereas I feel like a lot of

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dentists pretend.
I feel like they pretend to do

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work.
And they're like, Oh yeah.

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What's the hygienist?
It kind of, it does most of the

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work.
The hygienist comes in and she

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walks over your mouth and looks
at everything and does all these

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different things and says
whether or not you need X-rays

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do do the X-rays and all that
kind of stuff like that.

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And that's how they caught the
cavity.

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But the hygienist didn't catch
it, the doctor did.

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The doctor's really nice lady.
I'm like, wow, they are really,

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really, really good.
Very, very happy with them.

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What is it?
And associates anyway?

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They're in Reston.
No, they're not giving us any

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money anyway.
They're really good.

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I look at the number of dentists
that I've had since I was a

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little kid.
I had Yarborough from all of my,

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you know, elementary years up
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And I stopped, didn't even go to
a dentist until I met my wife,

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which was Gibberman who was over
in Alexandria and we lived over

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there.
And then we had, then we had, we

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moved to his son and then I
moved to this woman in McLean

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because we lived in McLean at
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We didn't even have a dentist
when we were in, in pulmonary

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drive for seven years.
We used the Alexandria one,

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which we'd not get because it, I
think when you get a dentist,

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you feel comfortable and maybe
it's men may, I don't know if

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it's women as well, but you find
a place where you're

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comfortable.
They seem to do good work and

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they're they're easy and it's
not painful.

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I went to one in McLane and it
was an absolute Horror Story.

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It's also you start to see where
they start to look at doing

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things that aren't necessary.
I had had, what do you call them

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crowns, fillings, things, my
teeth through the years.

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And then I went to McLane and I
had a lady that said that I had

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cracks in my veneer on the teeth
on the outside and that that I

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need to have, I need to put
crowns in.

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And I didn't understand because
she talked about, she didn't say

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crowns.
She used a different word.

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And I didn't know what it was.
And I just listened because I

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always thought that you trusted
the people that were taking care

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of your mouth, just like you
trusted the people that were

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doctors, just like you trusted,
which I don't trust any of these

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people anymore.
It's all money driven but or I'm

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more suspect than I used to be.
She got me to do an appointment

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to do 3 crowns and one sitting I
got I got there at 7:30 in the

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morning and I didn't realize how
long it was going to take.

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I had a 1:00 business
appointment and at noon I'm

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trying to get out of the chair
and she's gone.

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We're not done.
So I was in the chair from 7:30

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on.
She poked the hell out of me,

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did all this stuff.
Three years later, I've had all

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three of those replaced because
they were, they were put in kind

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of shoddily.
She was a newer dentist and she

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wasn't that good because I, and
the reason I would say that is

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because I, I have, I have crowns
that were put in 25 years ago.

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Never had a problem.
I have her three crowns lasted 3

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to five years tops.
They they had problems because

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they were they're put on
incorrectly so stuff got

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underneath them.
There's all sorts of weird shit

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like.
Yeah, that's not good.

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You know, and when I talked to
the dentist, they're like, well,

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you never, you don't.
Most dentists, well, some

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dentists don't do, you don't do
preventative care.

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If you have if you have like
cracks in your teeth, you don't

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they call them fissures.
You don't like get a crown put

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in because those cracks may stay
there until you die.

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They may never change and maybe
very surface cracks.

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They can't really tell they and
just it's not like plumbing

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where if the pipe breaks and
you're not there, you're going

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to you know, it's like it's it's
absolutely absurd to do to jump

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ahead of these things with a
number of different thing.

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I mean, I'm just like that that
and it was on top of that.

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It was like 4400 bucks.
It was not cheap.

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It was not cheap and it didn't
last.

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So I had to have them all redone
one at a time.

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And it was the whole painful
thing over which made me totally

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distrust every dentist.
I went to another dentist and

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the first thing she's doing is
she's telling me that I need

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those guards.
So I go go in.

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My wife liked her.
I said, OK, cool, I'll try her

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because this is usually what
happens.

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I try something.
She she says, I, she said, do

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you like it?
I'm like, yeah, and so she'll

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try it and vice versa.
So I go in, the lady says, do

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you have night guards?
And I said, no, I, I, I have

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Invisalign.
She goes, well, are they good?

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And I go, she goes, you should
bring them in the next time.

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And, and the whole time she's
there, she has an advertisement

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for mouth guard, veneers, all
this.

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Different.
TV going on in the background

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telling me I should buy shit
from her.

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OK, which I'm like in the in the
the actual hygienist was a

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roving hygienist that worked at
all sorts of different things.

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She's really good.
The lady comes in when I bring

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them the second time and she's
literally taking them and she

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goes, well, they seem kind of
old and she's trying to snap

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them in half in front of me.
I'm like, what the fuck?

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You know, because she wanted the
$800 or 500 or 6 or whatever the

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hell.
That's a great idea.

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But she says, can you bring them
in so I can look at them and

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see.
And she goes, well, look, they

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look flimsy.
They look like there's problems.

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And I'm like, they fit in my
mouth.

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They're they're they're plastic
on both sides.

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They stop my heat from grinding.
What?

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What?
And she's like, well, they seem

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like they're and she's she's
literally taking them in front

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of my eyes and doing this.
And I almost punched her in the

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face.
I was just like, this is just

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you're.
You're just a greedy fuck.

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Those things are like a grand,
too.

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It's spot coming for the bottom
and I was slipped up.

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Yeah, let me.
Do that to your kid, you know,

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I'll RIP their fucking arms off
in front of you and say, oh,

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well, they weren't attacks
really.

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Well, fuck you, you know that.
It just that boiled my blood to

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see somebody be that overt and
they're supposed to be in a

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care.
Yeah, no, it's, it's really

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funny because it's more and more
you see people just doing the

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snake oil sales.
Bit if you're a mechanic, it's

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crazy.
I'm sorry.

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I'm talking over you because I'm
just, you see how I get really

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angry about that?
Yeah, You're like, oh, I pushed

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the wrong button.
He's being an idiot now.

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But it was just like, I mean, if
you're a mechanic and you're

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going to RIP me off, I kind of
like feel like that's sort of

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normal, you know, Hey man, it
looks like your tires low.

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That'll be $75.
Hey, man, it looks, looks like

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your windows got an extra layer
of crust on it.

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We could take that off.
But we have to put silicon, we

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have to put some something
called H2O on it and wipe it

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around and that cleans it off.
And that's a really special

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treatment.
You know, that H2O and we're

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going to put it at a high
pressure.

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So that'll be $85.
And, and you're like, OK, you're

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going to RIP me off for washing
my window with water, you know,

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but but when a dentist does it
or a doctor does it, you're

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like.
Feels a little disrespectful,

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just a little bit and
especially.

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Right in front of me, like she
was.

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You could literally see her and
she's a small Indian woman.

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She was trying to snap.
It I remember her, yeah, I

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remember her quite clearly.
Yeah, I will punch you in the

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face.
I remember I got, I meant the

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hygienist for that company and
and then the the doctor came in

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and I said, I feel like the
hygienist is more, I don't know,

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qualified.
She was not in it for the money,

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she was doing it for the
service.

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You.
Know and that's what I got and

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she was like, OK, it's just, and
she goes if she comes in and she

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tells you to do this, say no.
She's actually telling me how to

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answer questions.
And I'm like, well, that seems

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very odd that you know, said if
you don't, she said in dentistry

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you don't do anything until you
have a problem.

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Because if you do something you
create, you could and many times

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create another problem.
So it was like, oh.

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Yeah, I got a weird vibe from
her.

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I remember that.
It was like and.

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Mom got the vibe that she even
sat there and said please don't,

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can you cut the TV off?
I don't want to be sold this

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stuff.
She goes OK, and she doesn't cut

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it off.
And then and they leave her in

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there for like 20 minutes to
watch this program.

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And then at the end, at the end
after The thing is like, OK,

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we're we're going to be back in
just a minute.

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And they go up and they cut the
TV on so she has to watch it

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again.
And she's just like.

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Crazy, crazy.
Well, some people don't, I mean,

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some people do.
They get hooked on certain

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things that they think work.
And I think that she thought

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that that was marketing and she
didn't understand it.

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I mean, I don't, I don't, I
don't know.

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But maybe she was a great
dentist.

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She was a recommended dentist
but I didn't.

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I don't think people want to
make a good kind of business

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acumen anymore where you have
clients that trust you because

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it takes too long.
I feel like they'd much rather

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do the quick sell.
Whereas building an actual

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customer basis then which
customers trust you and they

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believe in you takes years and
people don't want to do that

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anymore.
People are.

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Talking I, I, I, I, I
wholeheartedly agree with that,

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that, that, that when you want
quality, you, you have to pay

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for it many times and it lasts
and also it takes time to earn

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it.
You know, you can't go in and

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just, you know, beat people and
give them a shoddy product and

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shove it in front of them.
Go here.

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It's great.
And you know it doesn't work

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that way.
You have to it, it's a slow

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process and the companies that
I've been involved in, it's like

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anytime we were doing a product,
it was it was all about

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listening to the customer,
delivering what they have and

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then when they didn't use
figuring out why and then

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changing it to make it so they
did use it as opposed to because

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a lot of people will throw
something out and or do

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something and and this is I
don't think it's any different

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than dentistry.
It's like you're, you come in

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and I start trying to push a
hard sell on you on a new mouth

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guard and shit like that.
And you're like, and you don't

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have dental insurance.
It's like, OK, I don't need to

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do that.
We don't need, you know, no.

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Yeah, I know.
I also speaking about dental

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insurance.
I don't think I've ever even had

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insurance from when I was a kid
that ever covered any dental,

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which is really funny.
Usually it's like Papa John's.

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It's like Papa John's offered a
micro dental plan.

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Yeah, don't, I mean, I, I find
that they're, they're they'll

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they'll cover your, you're,
you're what do you call it when

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you go in and you get a, an
appointment and they set it up?

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I mean, I just did this filling
this morning.

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I pay them 400 bucks a year.
So they do my, what do you call

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it, X-rays cleanings and all
that stuff.

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And then on top of this, it was
like 250.

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It was 250 for a filling.
I don't.

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Know I've never had a feeling so
I wouldn't know.

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I don't know.
I can't.

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I don't know where a place where
you would go and put this in and

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say, yeah, is this good?
High, low, good.

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But I would say that of all the
feelings I've had, it was the

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least painful.
It was quickest, easiest.

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She gave me shots three times.
I did not.

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I felt like the slide that she
put a number in like they all

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do.
They used to not put a number

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and they just take it.
They get out the big here.

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Let me stick you in or out here.
Is it feeling the same thing as

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a root canal?
It's not the same thing, right?

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No, no root.
Canals when they go down to the

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bottom of the key, then they
kill the root.

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OK.
It's rotting.

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The Two's rotting underneath or
something to that degree.

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I'm, you know, and all my dental
knowledge as I make it up as I

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go.
It sounds good, right?

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Yeah.
But I yeah, well, that's like a

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full extraction.
Yeah, it's.

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The whole thing with the what's
his name now fighting about

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fluoride and water and they want
to they're killing the

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fluoridation water and that that
when I was a kid at I mean, how

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many cavities did you have?
0.

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Do you realize that when my, in
my generation, we grow up, by

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the time you were 20, you would
have had at least 10 cavities.

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Everybody did because there was
no fluoridation in the water.

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Well, I feel like dental hygiene
was lower back then.

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I don't know.
Yes and no.

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I mean there was, there was
fluoridation, there was no

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fluoridation in the water.
And if you look at the American

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Dental Association, which does
not get paid.

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Anything for putting fluoride in
the water.

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So there is like, hey, we're
doing this because we have money

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and we get a kickback.
No, what it does is it

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strengthens your teeth.
And they used to put it on

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manually once a year.
They would do a fluoride

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treatment, which was like 12
bucks back in the 60s.

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And it was, it made your teeth
stronger and this that and the

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other.
And then they realized that if

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they added just a small, you
know, one part per billion to

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your water that, that you would
get.

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And they started doing this in
city water and all of a sudden

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cavities went away.
So people's teeth lasted longer.

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Because remember, you know, 150
years ago, we all died at 35.

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Now we all live to 70.
So our, but our teeth, you got

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to change the way you treat them
because otherwise they, they're

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all gone at 40.
You start to look around at your

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friends that are, I mean, and
usually it's economically

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disadvantaged or poor people
that don't have the money to go

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to a dentist or it's English.
The English people are funny

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because their teeth are all
crookly and and you're just

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like, what the hell, You know,
you guys don't believe in

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dentist.
I don't think they do.

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But you know, there are.
My name was my name was Chunky

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Cows.
Yeah.

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But what that I saw Pip, Pip
Terrio and rotten faith, right?

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Those are all those British
people, man, with the brown

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teeth that just are falling out
of their head.

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I don't know what that is.
This is bad tooth genomics.

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I guess they do something.
I think they had chew on bricks

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when they were a kid or
something.

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I don't.
Know, well, I think that it's

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there there's there's a direct
association between pain and a

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dentist with kids for the most
part, 100% more so more so than

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doctors because doctors the I
remember when we were kids, pain

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from the dentist was like you're
going to have a cavity.

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They're going to they my
brothers would always have the

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big drill in hand.
Go ring, ring, ring, ring, you

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know.
Or worse, was the hand drill.

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Oh geez, yeah, I remember that
with the.

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They would tell you they're
going to hand drill your mouth

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and show the big sharp bit and,
you know, just just to fuck.

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What was that?
Before or after they I?

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Cannot imagine that my brothers
were the only ones that did

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that.
I imagine that a lot of people

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they, they, you know, you, you
enjoyed instilling fear in your

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brothers and sisters on
something that you'd gone and

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done.
You know, it's like a shot, like

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my sister was the one that was
the person who didn't like

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shots.
I didn't care.

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I got, I got to a point where I
was like, I don't know why, but

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but but you know, I was the one
that would just sit there and

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they'd come in and they'd stick
me.

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Do you want, And I'm like, no, I
just look away.

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It's just take the pain and move
on.

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You got to have it.
You know, now we're all running

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away from the vaccine thing.
So, and it's funny that we get

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on to this topic while we're
talking about Dennis, because

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the fluoridation thing has
already been, it used to be

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mandatory to put it in public
water supply.

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00:23:04,880 --> 00:23:09,680
What you're going to see with no
fluoride is that many, many

444
00:23:09,680 --> 00:23:12,280
people are now going to develop
cavities.

445
00:23:12,600 --> 00:23:17,880
And it's going to be a whole new
industry for people to have, you

446
00:23:17,880 --> 00:23:20,120
know, to fill cavities because
your teeth are going to start

447
00:23:20,120 --> 00:23:23,880
falling apart because people
don't rush three times a day.

448
00:23:23,880 --> 00:23:26,000
They don't clean them.
You know, they're, they're just

449
00:23:26,000 --> 00:23:30,080
not going to do that.
You and your teeth are not, you

450
00:23:30,080 --> 00:23:33,440
know, your teeth are made of the
same thing the teeth were made

451
00:23:33,440 --> 00:23:39,080
of 150 years ago.
Those teeth lasted 35 years.

452
00:23:39,440 --> 00:23:42,720
Your teeth have to last 80
years.

453
00:23:43,360 --> 00:23:46,080
Think about that.
What are they doing differently

454
00:23:46,080 --> 00:23:49,600
with teeth now than then?
Well, you're washing them,

455
00:23:49,600 --> 00:23:51,840
you're brushing them, you're
cleaning them, you're getting

456
00:23:51,840 --> 00:23:54,560
the food out around them, and
they're living longer.

457
00:23:54,800 --> 00:23:57,080
We get a ceiling too now.
Yeah.

458
00:23:57,320 --> 00:24:00,360
Boride seal or not a fluoride
seal?

459
00:24:00,840 --> 00:24:02,800
Well, exactly.
Whatever they do at the end,

460
00:24:02,800 --> 00:24:06,000
they seal it with the the foam.
Yeah, that's fluoride.

461
00:24:06,000 --> 00:24:08,040
That is fluoride, yeah.
So.

462
00:24:08,040 --> 00:24:08,800
Think about it.
They do.

463
00:24:08,840 --> 00:24:11,280
They do a fluoride treatment in
addition to the fluoride.

464
00:24:11,480 --> 00:24:13,720
I mean, that's a problem that we
always worried about here

465
00:24:14,000 --> 00:24:19,960
because in our house, strangely
enough, this is well water,

466
00:24:20,000 --> 00:24:25,520
which has no fluoride.
So you grew up in a house with

467
00:24:25,520 --> 00:24:32,280
no fluoride, right?
And you were born here, 99, You

468
00:24:32,280 --> 00:24:36,160
know, you, you, you the, all the
water you ever drank out of this

469
00:24:36,160 --> 00:24:38,480
house didn't have fluoride.
It was only when you went

470
00:24:38,480 --> 00:24:43,960
elsewhere, you know, she, she
was on a kick for a while and I

471
00:24:43,960 --> 00:24:46,640
think we might have had some
fluoridation here and there, but

472
00:24:46,720 --> 00:24:49,720
no, but then, but you were
always like on it with the

473
00:24:49,720 --> 00:24:51,920
dentist.
That was like mouthwash, 'cause

474
00:24:51,920 --> 00:24:54,080
if I remember, Bushka said
something to some degree is

475
00:24:54,080 --> 00:24:57,200
like, there's one thing I want
to die with and it's my teeth.

476
00:24:57,200 --> 00:24:59,040
And I said that's a great goal
to have.

477
00:24:59,240 --> 00:25:02,800
That's a, that's a really
realistic goal to have one and

478
00:25:03,000 --> 00:25:06,680
it's one that you have kind of
complete control over almost

479
00:25:06,680 --> 00:25:08,120
depending on your teeth
genetics.

480
00:25:08,120 --> 00:25:11,240
But I think that that's
something that I really

481
00:25:11,400 --> 00:25:14,040
identified with when I was about
9 or 10.

482
00:25:14,320 --> 00:25:17,720
I remember watching them pull my
father's teeth out.

483
00:25:19,480 --> 00:25:23,400
That was a gross thing.
The Veterans Administration,

484
00:25:23,840 --> 00:25:27,560
1967, I went there.
I was 8 years old.

485
00:25:27,920 --> 00:25:30,120
I was, I remember going to the
Veterans Administration.

486
00:25:30,120 --> 00:25:33,520
He had, he had gone through
World War One, I mean, World War

487
00:25:33,520 --> 00:25:37,080
2 and Korea war.
He had his teeth beat out in a,

488
00:25:37,160 --> 00:25:42,400
in a he got, he got, he got beat
up by the black market strapped,

489
00:25:42,520 --> 00:25:44,240
you know, and all sorts of weird
stuff like that.

490
00:25:44,240 --> 00:25:46,880
And he had all sorts of horrible
things happen because he had his

491
00:25:46,880 --> 00:25:50,040
face punched in a bunch of
times, you know, by black

492
00:25:50,040 --> 00:25:52,240
marketeers and a few other
things.

493
00:25:52,560 --> 00:25:57,320
So anyway, he's sitting in the
chair and the chair was in a

494
00:25:57,320 --> 00:26:00,960
room like the size of this room
and I'm just sitting over the

495
00:26:00,960 --> 00:26:03,360
wall with a couple other people
and the dentist is just

496
00:26:03,360 --> 00:26:08,200
literally shot him full of gas
and just ripping his teeth out.

497
00:26:09,640 --> 00:26:14,080
And then I went out in the
hallway and I met these guys

498
00:26:14,240 --> 00:26:18,240
that were there from the Vietnam
War and they were riding up and

499
00:26:18,240 --> 00:26:20,840
down the up and down the
Veterans Administration.

500
00:26:21,240 --> 00:26:23,680
And they're, what do you call
them, wheelchairs.

501
00:26:24,240 --> 00:26:26,440
And they were doing races.
And I thought it was the coolest

502
00:26:26,440 --> 00:26:28,200
thing in the world.
I remember talking to these guys

503
00:26:28,200 --> 00:26:31,840
and they were all missing legs,
you know, but they all had

504
00:26:31,840 --> 00:26:34,080
wheelchairs and they all could
make them pop up in the air and

505
00:26:34,080 --> 00:26:35,280
everything.
And I was like, man, I wish I

506
00:26:35,280 --> 00:26:36,680
had that.
And they were like, well, I

507
00:26:36,680 --> 00:26:39,760
would trade, I would trade my
wheelchair for a leg any day.

508
00:26:40,960 --> 00:26:45,640
And I didn't, I, I mean, I was
like, I was 7 or 8 at the time.

509
00:26:45,640 --> 00:26:48,680
So I didn't really kind of grasp
what they were talking about.

510
00:26:49,440 --> 00:26:52,480
But I mean, they were just
bolting and flying.

511
00:26:52,480 --> 00:26:56,200
I could not.
They moved faster in a

512
00:26:56,200 --> 00:26:59,240
wheelchair than I did at a flat
out run at age 7.

513
00:26:59,760 --> 00:27:02,600
OK.
And I wasn't that slow, you

514
00:27:02,600 --> 00:27:08,400
know, I mean, maybe, but I was
actually pretty quick as a young

515
00:27:08,400 --> 00:27:10,640
kid because I had older
brothers.

516
00:27:11,840 --> 00:27:14,400
And that's how you survived, you
know, 'cause if you weren't

517
00:27:14,400 --> 00:27:16,760
quick, you had to be really
strong.

518
00:27:16,760 --> 00:27:18,800
And they were bigger than me by
four or five years.

519
00:27:19,080 --> 00:27:22,120
So when I threw something at
them, I had to run and I had to

520
00:27:22,120 --> 00:27:24,040
and I had to be fast so they
couldn't catch me and I could

521
00:27:24,040 --> 00:27:27,400
out.
Edwin was faster than me, but he

522
00:27:27,400 --> 00:27:30,400
could not zigzag.
Seth was fat and slow, could

523
00:27:30,400 --> 00:27:32,920
never catch me.
So I could I would just laugh.

524
00:27:32,920 --> 00:27:35,280
I would call him anything I
wanted and say, yeah, you know,

525
00:27:35,280 --> 00:27:39,200
fuck off, catch me, throw stuff
at him and you know, whatever.

526
00:27:39,480 --> 00:27:41,160
But but eventually I had to go
home.

527
00:27:41,280 --> 00:27:43,720
And that was always the rule was
like, well, you got to go to

528
00:27:43,720 --> 00:27:47,080
your room eventually.
And when you do, payback is a

529
00:27:47,080 --> 00:27:50,560
bitch.
And I would, I had, I had many a

530
00:27:50,560 --> 00:27:53,320
fight in the downstairs hallway.
I remember Edwin pick me up and

531
00:27:53,320 --> 00:27:58,920
banging me against the wall.
Ah, the old and pretty wonderful

532
00:27:58,920 --> 00:28:01,520
days.
That was man.

533
00:28:02,040 --> 00:28:04,760
Yep, brotherly love.
I don't remember Seth.

534
00:28:04,800 --> 00:28:12,920
Seth was like, oh, just, I don't
know when I was 1617.

535
00:28:12,920 --> 00:28:18,960
That's when we fought a lot.
But you know, I, I, I was crazy.

536
00:28:19,600 --> 00:28:22,040
Different time, different stuff.
Different.

537
00:28:22,400 --> 00:28:26,120
Thing completely different.
But anyway, back to Dennis, I

538
00:28:26,120 --> 00:28:29,480
think about, I've talked about,
I remember, I remember that

539
00:28:29,480 --> 00:28:36,080
Yarborough or Dennis got paid on
time that we would go there and

540
00:28:36,640 --> 00:28:41,160
I would go there with a check
for $10 and I would give it and

541
00:28:41,160 --> 00:28:44,960
the visit was like 15 or 12 or
19.

542
00:28:45,640 --> 00:28:48,520
And we'll put the rest on your
account.

543
00:28:49,040 --> 00:28:52,480
That's what I remember.
And it and it, and I would go

544
00:28:52,480 --> 00:28:57,720
there once every, I think once a
year is when we did the dentist

545
00:28:57,720 --> 00:29:05,400
then, you know, and, and we had
a dentist payment account, you

546
00:29:05,400 --> 00:29:08,320
know, but I mean, we, we all
went to the dentist.

547
00:29:08,720 --> 00:29:13,480
You know, my mother was AGS 1.
So we were living off of six of

548
00:29:13,480 --> 00:29:18,520
us were off of 5800 bucks.
Whoa.

549
00:29:19,080 --> 00:29:21,240
Yeah.
Well, that's kind of like

550
00:29:21,560 --> 00:29:25,280
grocery stores, who used to have
grocery stores, grocery store

551
00:29:25,280 --> 00:29:28,320
accounts, right?
You put that on your account or

552
00:29:28,320 --> 00:29:30,600
something like that.
Exactly back in the old.

553
00:29:30,600 --> 00:29:31,880
They kind of got rid of that
though.

554
00:29:32,360 --> 00:29:36,440
Well, they did because, you
know, people in theory made

555
00:29:36,440 --> 00:29:39,360
enough money to buy the food
that they needed to eat in a

556
00:29:39,360 --> 00:29:42,880
week.
You know, when you go like how

557
00:29:42,880 --> 00:29:47,680
in the world do we have a
society where someone cannot

558
00:29:47,680 --> 00:29:49,880
afford to buy enough food to
eat?

559
00:29:51,200 --> 00:29:54,000
And, and it's like, and you want
to always place it on the

560
00:29:54,000 --> 00:29:59,440
individual's responsibility.
It's like you can for about 3%,

561
00:29:59,440 --> 00:30:03,000
but at some point you got to say
that society is doing something

562
00:30:03,000 --> 00:30:05,680
wrong.
You know, if they can't, if they

563
00:30:05,680 --> 00:30:10,360
can't feed the people.
I mean you, I, I remember in the

564
00:30:10,360 --> 00:30:12,720
60s, India and China could not
feed the people.

565
00:30:13,480 --> 00:30:18,000
They, they had, you know, every
year 10s of thousands died

566
00:30:18,040 --> 00:30:20,200
starvation because they didn't
have enough food.

567
00:30:20,200 --> 00:30:21,840
They didn't get it to them,
didn't work.

568
00:30:22,680 --> 00:30:25,280
You know, Sudan, all, all the
different places you can look

569
00:30:25,280 --> 00:30:31,960
around Ethiopia, Bangladesh.
My question is, 13 to 14% of

570
00:30:31,960 --> 00:30:35,640
American children struggle with
food insecurity, but I don't

571
00:30:35,640 --> 00:30:37,640
really know what that means,
right?

572
00:30:37,840 --> 00:30:39,120
Yeah, I don't know.
It's.

573
00:30:39,120 --> 00:30:41,360
Well, I don't.
Know what how it's classified

574
00:30:41,360 --> 00:30:43,360
really in the USI.
Would imagine that it's you.

575
00:30:43,440 --> 00:30:46,200
You do not get one or two meals
a day.

576
00:30:47,000 --> 00:30:48,080
OK, there we go.
Yeah, that's.

577
00:30:48,080 --> 00:30:50,880
What I want the number of meals
that you get a day, the number

578
00:30:50,880 --> 00:30:52,560
of calories, because that's what
I would think is.

579
00:30:52,600 --> 00:30:54,280
Calorie intake.
You know what calorie?

580
00:30:54,280 --> 00:30:56,040
Intake would mean is like if
you're a young kid and you need

581
00:30:56,040 --> 00:30:58,960
2000 calories a day you get you
get 1500.

582
00:30:59,840 --> 00:31:04,040
That's like, well, that's kind
of less descript as the 11% of

583
00:31:04,040 --> 00:31:06,200
Americans don't have access to
clean drinking water.

584
00:31:06,240 --> 00:31:08,840
Yeah, that's.
Yeah, that's well when you

585
00:31:08,840 --> 00:31:11,040
start.
To I know what that means, yeah.

586
00:31:11,120 --> 00:31:14,720
Yeah, when you when you think of
like Flint, MI and what's

587
00:31:14,720 --> 00:31:16,640
happened there and they've never
fixed it.

588
00:31:17,520 --> 00:31:20,960
People drink bottled water.
Under any party, they haven't

589
00:31:20,960 --> 00:31:22,160
fixed it.
That's crazy.

590
00:31:22,560 --> 00:31:25,640
I mean it, well, that's, I think
the the problem is, is that we

591
00:31:25,640 --> 00:31:30,400
keep coming back to it's the
other side's fault and at some

592
00:31:30,400 --> 00:31:34,200
point it's no, it's.
That place has been entirely.

593
00:31:35,400 --> 00:31:39,840
Forgotten our fault and I think
that it would be nice if we got

594
00:31:39,840 --> 00:31:43,600
back to an America where it was
not ask what I can do, what my

595
00:31:43,600 --> 00:31:46,280
country can do for me, but ask
what I can do for my country.

596
00:31:46,800 --> 00:31:51,880
And the country was asking for
us to not be such pieces of shit

597
00:31:52,200 --> 00:31:55,760
and work together.
Yeah, I don't really think,

598
00:31:55,840 --> 00:31:59,160
well, it's, it's really in the
business acumen too, of every

599
00:31:59,160 --> 00:32:02,600
single small business now.
It's just very lecherous.

600
00:32:02,960 --> 00:32:06,880
There's a certain level of
lechery over the entire nation,

601
00:32:06,880 --> 00:32:09,680
whether you be liberal or
Republican, doesn't matter.

602
00:32:09,880 --> 00:32:14,080
I mean, it's there's a level at
which people are just taking

603
00:32:14,080 --> 00:32:18,120
advantage of one another to such
a degree that it doesn't seem

604
00:32:18,120 --> 00:32:22,440
like it's ever going away and
it's kind of upsetting.

605
00:32:22,880 --> 00:32:26,200
Well depend the the pendulum,
hopefully it will swing, but a

606
00:32:26,200 --> 00:32:28,480
lot of people say that it's I
don't think it will.

607
00:32:28,880 --> 00:32:31,320
I don't think that it will and I
don't know.

608
00:32:31,320 --> 00:32:34,120
It's not necessarily the
administration, it's more of the

609
00:32:34,120 --> 00:32:38,080
economic.
I would say I don't know, just.

610
00:32:38,080 --> 00:32:40,160
The I think they're.
Yeah, I think.

611
00:32:40,160 --> 00:32:42,880
They're absolutely, I think.
Well, you can say that, but at

612
00:32:42,880 --> 00:32:45,520
the same time, like even under
Biden, but.

613
00:32:45,520 --> 00:32:48,160
We saw the billionaires line up
in right behind the guy when he

614
00:32:48,160 --> 00:32:50,600
was being, you know, you had
every major.

615
00:32:50,600 --> 00:32:53,520
But how is that reflective of
small businesses and how is that

616
00:32:53,520 --> 00:32:56,560
reflective of other businesses
that are much smaller than those

617
00:32:56,560 --> 00:32:59,520
billion dollar companies that
are also equally as lecherous

618
00:32:59,520 --> 00:33:01,880
towards their consumers when you
say?

619
00:33:01,920 --> 00:33:03,360
Lecherous help.
Help me out.

620
00:33:03,560 --> 00:33:06,440
I just feel like every single
business I walk into now,

621
00:33:06,440 --> 00:33:09,560
whether it be anywhere, I'm
getting it taken advantage of,

622
00:33:11,000 --> 00:33:13,760
like every single one.
It's crazy.

623
00:33:13,960 --> 00:33:16,400
Even though like, I mean what we
were just saying at the dentist,

624
00:33:16,640 --> 00:33:20,480
at the doctor's office, at
anywhere and.

625
00:33:20,520 --> 00:33:23,920
Change the way that it's not
about the product, it's how can

626
00:33:23,920 --> 00:33:26,520
I scam this guy?
Exactly, exactly.

627
00:33:26,560 --> 00:33:30,120
It's it's everywhere.
It's not just those, which I

628
00:33:30,120 --> 00:33:32,600
will say it is definitely.
I'm not saying I'm not trying to

629
00:33:32,600 --> 00:33:36,040
negate that.
But it's it's trickled down to a

630
00:33:36,040 --> 00:33:38,480
point where I think that those
larger people have gotten away

631
00:33:38,480 --> 00:33:41,520
with so much that people at the
lower end of the spectrum are

632
00:33:41,520 --> 00:33:43,800
saying, well, fuck it, Why?
Why?

633
00:33:43,800 --> 00:33:46,040
Wouldn't I do this since they're
not going to hold anybody else

634
00:33:46,040 --> 00:33:48,440
accountable?
Why should I care?

635
00:33:48,440 --> 00:33:49,880
Exactly.
Exactly.

636
00:33:49,880 --> 00:33:51,240
Yeah.
And it because it is sad when

637
00:33:51,240 --> 00:33:58,000
you see people do absolute wrong
and then walk away and then, you

638
00:33:58,000 --> 00:34:02,320
know, or get held accountable
and then get pardoned.

639
00:34:02,800 --> 00:34:05,640
Or I mean, it's just thing after
thing after thing where it's

640
00:34:05,640 --> 00:34:08,520
really like, wow, you did
something wrong and you didn't

641
00:34:08,520 --> 00:34:10,520
get held accountable.
And then you get let go.

642
00:34:10,880 --> 00:34:15,040
And it's like, wow, that's not
that's not the American way.

643
00:34:15,120 --> 00:34:19,280
Thomas Hobbes said the people
are inherently evil, and I have

644
00:34:19,280 --> 00:34:21,280
believed that since about 9th
grade.

645
00:34:21,280 --> 00:34:24,560
Who's Tom Hobbes?
Thomas Hobbes was the one of the

646
00:34:24,560 --> 00:34:28,400
founders of your phones ringing.
Is he the?

647
00:34:28,440 --> 00:34:34,880
One that read the is is he the
one that did Calvin and Hobbes?

648
00:34:35,360 --> 00:34:39,679
No, he wrote the Commonwealth,
if I'm not mistaken.

649
00:34:39,960 --> 00:34:42,520
Yeah, on the original
Commonwealth, which is the

650
00:34:42,520 --> 00:34:48,679
design for American government.
But he was a theologian, and

651
00:34:49,159 --> 00:34:50,920
they're not theologian who's a
philosopher.

652
00:34:51,440 --> 00:34:54,120
Yeah.
And yeah, but he wrote a doctor

653
00:34:54,120 --> 00:34:57,080
in, I can't remember what it
was, but on how people are

654
00:34:57,080 --> 00:34:59,680
inherently evil.
And I believe that they are

655
00:34:59,680 --> 00:35:01,560
inherently evil.
And I think that that's the.

656
00:35:01,560 --> 00:35:02,960
Truth.
I don't, I I'm not there.

657
00:35:02,960 --> 00:35:06,560
I don't believe that.
I think that that that is that's

658
00:35:06,560 --> 00:35:10,120
a mindset that fits right into
the religious model.

659
00:35:10,560 --> 00:35:13,280
I don't believe that.
I think that a lot of people

660
00:35:14,360 --> 00:35:19,320
wouldn't hurt someone else just
because.

661
00:35:19,480 --> 00:35:22,680
Oh wait, so he did not believe
that they are inherently evil

662
00:35:22,680 --> 00:35:25,280
but are driven by natural
desires and aversions.

663
00:35:26,000 --> 00:35:27,000
I I.
Agree with that.

664
00:35:27,320 --> 00:35:31,880
A fear of death and hunger for
power which leads to a war of

665
00:35:31,880 --> 00:35:35,600
all against all in the absence
of government.

666
00:35:35,600 --> 00:35:39,240
That's when he wrote the
Leviathan was to enforce that

667
00:35:39,240 --> 00:35:42,520
these natural desires would not
kind of overtly take over your

668
00:35:42,520 --> 00:35:43,920
mind.
I think is.

669
00:35:43,920 --> 00:35:44,280
Really.
Yeah.

670
00:35:44,280 --> 00:35:47,000
But would you, you, you know,
when you, when you think about

671
00:35:47,000 --> 00:35:51,720
these things, it's like it's
groups like, oh wow, if how many

672
00:35:51,720 --> 00:35:53,680
people would steal if they could
get away with it?

673
00:35:54,280 --> 00:35:57,880
Well, a lot of people wouldn't.
How many people would murder if

674
00:35:57,880 --> 00:36:00,480
they could get away with it?
Well, a whole lot of people

675
00:36:00,480 --> 00:36:04,280
wouldn't.
You know, I mean, I mean, just

676
00:36:04,280 --> 00:36:07,480
start asking questions like that
and think and go like, I

677
00:36:07,480 --> 00:36:10,720
wouldn't kill anybody.
I mean, well, maybe, maybe I'd

678
00:36:10,720 --> 00:36:13,480
kill a few.
I don't know.

679
00:36:13,480 --> 00:36:16,600
Well, there's the whole thing
that Anne Rand was talking about

680
00:36:16,600 --> 00:36:18,760
and which was new.
It's.

681
00:36:19,080 --> 00:36:23,320
Anne Ryan.
It's Anne in the 16 or in the

682
00:36:23,320 --> 00:36:27,560
1960s, which was Objectivism and
how objectivist.

683
00:36:27,560 --> 00:36:30,800
We should be living our lives
selfishly and not let other

684
00:36:30,800 --> 00:36:34,360
people get in the way 'cause we
live one life, therefore nobody

685
00:36:34,360 --> 00:36:37,520
should be able to disrupt what
we are trying to achieve in this

686
00:36:37,520 --> 00:36:39,800
lifetime, which I kind of agree
with that.

687
00:36:39,800 --> 00:36:42,400
I mean, I kind of.
No, I I don't.

688
00:36:42,880 --> 00:36:46,000
I I do to some degree, 'cause I
mean, only because you're going

689
00:36:46,000 --> 00:36:48,920
to, you're going to lean down,
you're going to help somebody at

690
00:36:48,920 --> 00:36:51,160
the advent that you wouldn't be
able to accomplish your dreams.

691
00:36:51,200 --> 00:36:52,680
That's pretty much what that's
about.

692
00:36:53,240 --> 00:36:56,520
You would rather help somebody
than not accomplish your own.

693
00:36:56,520 --> 00:37:00,840
Dreams What if you What if you
make helping people part of your

694
00:37:00,840 --> 00:37:03,800
dream I mean, that's.
Well, that's the only kind of

695
00:37:03,800 --> 00:37:06,600
work around, but other than
that, yeah.

696
00:37:07,120 --> 00:37:09,080
Well I mean you don't have to
make it full time, you can make

697
00:37:09,080 --> 00:37:13,120
it part time it.
Depends, though it depends what

698
00:37:13,120 --> 00:37:15,160
your dream is and if it's
actually accomplished.

699
00:37:15,280 --> 00:37:18,600
I don't have, I didn't have any
dream whatsoever about helping

700
00:37:18,840 --> 00:37:22,680
people.
I just do it, you know?

701
00:37:22,840 --> 00:37:24,360
Well, you never let anybody get
in the way.

702
00:37:25,120 --> 00:37:27,880
Therefore you accomplished your
dream and after you accomplished

703
00:37:27,880 --> 00:37:30,440
your dream, then you were able
to help people, which is kind of

704
00:37:30,440 --> 00:37:32,360
different if you think about
that one.

705
00:37:32,360 --> 00:37:36,000
One came before the other.
Yeah, but what's I mean my

706
00:37:36,000 --> 00:37:37,680
dream?
I don't know if I've

707
00:37:37,680 --> 00:37:38,840
accomplished it.
What is it?

708
00:37:39,760 --> 00:37:41,680
I don't know.
I was just thinking in relative

709
00:37:41,680 --> 00:37:44,320
to the the business that you
started and you created, right?

710
00:37:44,560 --> 00:37:47,640
Yeah, well The thing is, if you
make that the whole life.

711
00:37:47,640 --> 00:37:50,720
Yeah, but then do you make the
second one or the?

712
00:37:50,960 --> 00:37:53,520
I think it was more maybe not
dream is the right word, but

713
00:37:53,520 --> 00:37:56,280
accomplishments or yeah, kind
of.

714
00:37:56,560 --> 00:37:58,720
Choice.
So see how that changes the

715
00:37:58,720 --> 00:38:02,360
meaning of if you let people get
in the way of your

716
00:38:02,360 --> 00:38:07,280
accomplishments that I can, you
know, you know, and I can see

717
00:38:07,280 --> 00:38:09,000
that.
That's what Objectivism is,

718
00:38:09,000 --> 00:38:10,920
yeah.
I can absolutely see that

719
00:38:10,920 --> 00:38:14,320
accomplishments is not more than
dreams, because dreams to me is

720
00:38:14,320 --> 00:38:19,280
is like, you know, I and maybe
I'm just in a nitpicking, you

721
00:38:19,280 --> 00:38:22,120
know which I do.
I am that I.

722
00:38:25,080 --> 00:38:28,680
Yeah, wow.
But no, that's what Objectivism

723
00:38:28,840 --> 00:38:30,680
was about.
That's kind of what The

724
00:38:30,680 --> 00:38:32,240
Fountainhead is all about as
well.

725
00:38:32,360 --> 00:38:34,200
And the.
Books that she wrote, Yeah.

726
00:38:34,640 --> 00:38:36,720
You're like some reader, dude.
You do this stuff.

727
00:38:36,720 --> 00:38:38,040
All what?
What in the world?

728
00:38:38,040 --> 00:38:42,480
It's weird, you know, sitting
over there with my Spider Man

729
00:38:42,480 --> 00:38:44,920
comic books and you have the big
fat book.

730
00:38:45,680 --> 00:38:47,480
I've been bad at reading this
year.

731
00:38:47,920 --> 00:38:51,400
You have not really great like
when I read like 7 or 8.

732
00:38:51,840 --> 00:38:53,080
Well, you do.
You're working.

733
00:38:53,120 --> 00:38:55,520
You're working heavily on the
documentary.

734
00:38:55,520 --> 00:38:59,400
You were gone for literally 2
months of the year and.

735
00:38:59,400 --> 00:39:01,400
I finished Treasure Island while
I was there.

736
00:39:01,920 --> 00:39:04,240
Read that.
So you did have a big book.

737
00:39:04,600 --> 00:39:07,600
That's not really big though.
That's like 200 pages and it's

738
00:39:07,600 --> 00:39:09,440
really big text.
Really.

739
00:39:09,600 --> 00:39:10,920
Yeah, really big text.
Oh.

740
00:39:11,600 --> 00:39:13,480
I thought it was really long.
No, no.

741
00:39:13,480 --> 00:39:16,560
It's like 250 pages, if that.
Oh, I got to get that.

742
00:39:16,760 --> 00:39:19,240
Yeah, really big text.
It's written in Pirate too.

743
00:39:19,240 --> 00:39:21,080
It's hard to read you.
You don't like?

744
00:39:23,040 --> 00:39:24,240
That's literally how it's
written.

745
00:39:24,240 --> 00:39:25,000
It's crazy.
What's the one?

746
00:39:25,000 --> 00:39:26,400
Did you read the red magic
purge?

747
00:39:27,440 --> 00:39:31,680
No.
That Stephen Crane that that's a

748
00:39:31,680 --> 00:39:35,520
book that touched me.
If you read that, if you read

749
00:39:35,520 --> 00:39:38,320
that and I could I there's a
scene, there's actually a

750
00:39:38,320 --> 00:39:43,000
paragraph, a visual that and I
think that's the reason that

751
00:39:43,000 --> 00:39:46,480
when you think about reading and
and for me, I don't know about

752
00:39:46,480 --> 00:39:52,320
you, but when you read the
classics that you can visualize

753
00:39:52,440 --> 00:39:57,800
the scene, the person, the
smell, the air.

754
00:39:58,920 --> 00:40:03,720
I mean, I can still do that by
that that that wow, I.

755
00:40:04,680 --> 00:40:06,320
Need to go back and read more
Charles Dickens.

756
00:40:06,320 --> 00:40:07,880
I've never really read a lot of
Charles Dickens.

757
00:40:07,920 --> 00:40:11,640
I read the The Old Curiosity
Shop, which was, I read about

758
00:40:11,640 --> 00:40:14,960
75% of that.
And that was odd that that was

759
00:40:15,000 --> 00:40:17,720
very odd.
That was his weirdest book by

760
00:40:17,720 --> 00:40:20,240
far.
And I never finished it 'cause I

761
00:40:20,240 --> 00:40:22,280
was like, I don't need to finish
this, this is strange, really.

762
00:40:22,560 --> 00:40:25,040
And then, yeah, but I want to
read Tale of Two Cities.

763
00:40:25,040 --> 00:40:27,320
Never read that.
I think I read that, I don't

764
00:40:27,320 --> 00:40:28,680
remember.
What it was I never read.

765
00:40:28,680 --> 00:40:32,040
I like his writing style though.
It's very it's.

766
00:40:32,080 --> 00:40:36,080
Very.
Old Gin St. and and small beer

767
00:40:36,080 --> 00:40:40,680
for the children because there
was no potable water in London.

768
00:40:40,920 --> 00:40:44,840
So you had children drinking
small beer which was a beer that

769
00:40:44,840 --> 00:40:48,240
was out of like a Dixie cup.
And then you had Gin St. which

770
00:40:48,240 --> 00:40:52,560
was when people, these children
eventually got older and still

771
00:40:52,560 --> 00:40:55,560
couldn't really afford it was
either potable water or it was

772
00:40:55,560 --> 00:40:57,120
gin.
They chose gin.

773
00:40:57,120 --> 00:41:00,120
And then you had people just
drinking gin all day on Gin St.,

774
00:41:00,440 --> 00:41:05,680
falling down in the gutter face
1st and not really able to do

775
00:41:05,680 --> 00:41:07,480
anything and losing their homes
and what not.

776
00:41:08,080 --> 00:41:09,320
Wow.
Yep.

777
00:41:10,280 --> 00:41:12,040
Wow.
And then they died at 35.

778
00:41:12,600 --> 00:41:14,400
Even.
Yeah, yeah, pretty much, yeah.

779
00:41:14,400 --> 00:41:16,920
I just can't imagine.
People used to regularly die of

780
00:41:16,920 --> 00:41:18,760
consumption is what they would
call it.

781
00:41:19,240 --> 00:41:20,800
And I'm like, I just can't
imagine.

782
00:41:20,800 --> 00:41:21,840
What is that?
Just diarrhea.

783
00:41:22,160 --> 00:41:25,160
No, no, it's alcoholism, I'm
pretty sure.

784
00:41:25,600 --> 00:41:27,520
Consumption.
Is consumption right?

785
00:41:28,480 --> 00:41:30,560
What is consumption?
Look it up.

786
00:41:30,560 --> 00:41:34,400
I'm I'm wondering because people
would say that oh, he's dead or

787
00:41:34,400 --> 00:41:36,240
he died of consumption.
No, I remember.

788
00:41:37,640 --> 00:41:40,200
Let's see what I'm I'm actually
curious.

789
00:41:40,360 --> 00:41:45,320
Sumption, that was.
Tuberculosis, But what is

790
00:41:45,320 --> 00:41:47,560
alcoholism?
Because they had another like

791
00:41:47,560 --> 00:41:50,400
slight off word for.
Wasting disease, especially

792
00:41:50,400 --> 00:41:53,920
pulmonary tuberculosis.
His mother died of a wasting

793
00:41:53,920 --> 00:41:55,760
disease.
Oh, interesting.

794
00:41:57,360 --> 00:41:59,880
Someone is dying from a
bacterial infection that

795
00:41:59,880 --> 00:42:03,640
typically attacks the lungs,
causes severe weight loss, a

796
00:42:03,640 --> 00:42:08,000
bloody cough, fever and fatigue.
The term consumption comes from

797
00:42:08,000 --> 00:42:10,200
the visible wasting away of the
body.

798
00:42:10,560 --> 00:42:13,480
It appeared to be literally
consumed by the disease, which

799
00:42:13,480 --> 00:42:17,200
was leading cause of death for
centuries before the discovery

800
00:42:17,200 --> 00:42:19,240
of its cause and effective
treatments.

801
00:42:20,240 --> 00:42:24,920
Caused by micro bacterium
tuberculosis bacteria primarily

802
00:42:24,920 --> 00:42:27,160
affects the lungs.
Symptoms include a chronic

803
00:42:27,160 --> 00:42:29,920
cough, often with blood, fever,
fatigue, night sweat,

804
00:42:29,920 --> 00:42:32,760
significant weight loss.
I need some consumption to get

805
00:42:32,760 --> 00:42:33,800
rid of some of my weight, I
think.

806
00:42:33,800 --> 00:42:35,640
Interesting.
There's a lot of Americans that

807
00:42:35,640 --> 00:42:37,880
could use that.
The reason why I thought it was

808
00:42:37,880 --> 00:42:40,280
consumption is because of
alcohol consumption.

809
00:42:40,680 --> 00:42:43,600
That's why I always thought
that's what that meant but I

810
00:42:43,600 --> 00:42:46,320
guess not.
I don't know there was another

811
00:42:46,320 --> 00:42:48,840
word for it I can't think though
or phrased.

812
00:42:48,840 --> 00:42:53,400
It was like he died of of this
from drinking too much and I

813
00:42:53,400 --> 00:42:56,560
can't remember what the phrase
was but it sounded similar to

814
00:42:56,560 --> 00:42:59,760
consumption if I remember
correctly.

815
00:43:00,400 --> 00:43:07,480
Well, that would be but those
different phrases for drinking

816
00:43:08,240 --> 00:43:12,880
you have alcohol poisoning,
alcohol overdose, lethal

817
00:43:12,880 --> 00:43:20,040
intoxication, ethanol toxicity.
The death is from acute or

818
00:43:20,040 --> 00:43:22,000
chronic alcohol abuse.
It's.

819
00:43:23,640 --> 00:43:27,200
Like an old time you.
Phrase deaths, End stage

820
00:43:27,200 --> 00:43:29,160
aqualism.
Death from liver disease.

821
00:43:30,880 --> 00:43:34,200
Liver disease.
Maybe, I don't know, it was more

822
00:43:34,200 --> 00:43:37,000
like a word, like a kind of
all-encompassing word.

823
00:43:37,480 --> 00:43:40,600
But yeah, I those people should
have gone to the dentist too,

824
00:43:40,600 --> 00:43:42,240
I'll tell you that much.
Yeah.

825
00:43:42,240 --> 00:43:44,080
I mean, they, they got those
people.

826
00:43:44,320 --> 00:43:46,960
Oh my gosh.
What do you get dentures by the

827
00:43:46,960 --> 00:43:49,600
time you're like 9 or 10 years
old?

828
00:43:49,680 --> 00:43:51,480
That's just.
Intemperance.

829
00:43:52,240 --> 00:43:53,960
Maybe that's what it was.
Yeah.

830
00:43:53,960 --> 00:43:55,880
Intemperance.
Yeah, that might have been it.

831
00:43:56,240 --> 00:43:59,240
Yeah.
The temperance was the old timey

832
00:43:59,240 --> 00:44:01,640
phrase to getting.
Not drinking and intemperance

833
00:44:01,720 --> 00:44:03,760
is.
That's what it was.

834
00:44:04,040 --> 00:44:06,400
That's what I'm thinking of.
Yeah, 'cause that's an old timey

835
00:44:06,400 --> 00:44:10,760
word that he was constantly
crossing the intemperance tray

836
00:44:10,760 --> 00:44:13,680
or bus or bridge or whatever the
hell is, exactly.

837
00:44:13,720 --> 00:44:16,120
What I'm thinking, yeah.
And no doubt.

838
00:44:16,480 --> 00:44:18,040
Absolutely.
You know what?

839
00:44:18,040 --> 00:44:20,440
I got to stop taking What?
What were you saying?

840
00:44:20,440 --> 00:44:22,160
I.
Was going to ask about your

841
00:44:22,160 --> 00:44:24,960
dental appointments.
I need to do another one soon

842
00:44:25,600 --> 00:44:28,800
this time, yeah.
But I mean, my teeth are pretty

843
00:44:28,800 --> 00:44:29,960
healthy.
I'm 65.

844
00:44:29,960 --> 00:44:33,840
You know when you talked about
one of the who's Abuska that

845
00:44:33,840 --> 00:44:36,400
said that the the most important
thing to him was to die with his

846
00:44:36,400 --> 00:44:39,080
teeth?
My mother had all of her teeth.

847
00:44:39,080 --> 00:44:41,360
My father lost.
I would told the story where he

848
00:44:41,600 --> 00:44:45,120
had his teeth beat out of him.
We were in the and then he lost

849
00:44:45,120 --> 00:44:51,240
him at 67 and he had dentures.
I have relatives on my wife's

850
00:44:51,240 --> 00:44:55,680
side that had dentures and the,
the grandfather didn't have

851
00:44:55,680 --> 00:44:59,680
dentures or he had an upper
plate or something like that and

852
00:44:59,680 --> 00:45:02,560
not a lower plate, you know,
and, and it's kind of funny

853
00:45:02,560 --> 00:45:04,320
because you see somebody with
dentures and take them out.

854
00:45:06,080 --> 00:45:09,880
Yeah, yeah, there's no jaw one.
What, what you're doing there?

855
00:45:10,800 --> 00:45:13,040
I don't.
Have an old turtle, man.

856
00:45:13,520 --> 00:45:16,120
Yeah, well.
You're there's a lot.

857
00:45:17,120 --> 00:45:20,560
There's a you make yourself
smile, and it's hard to smile

858
00:45:20,560 --> 00:45:23,440
without teeth, you know, So it's
an interesting thing.

859
00:45:23,560 --> 00:45:25,560
It sure is.
When I when I would get in

860
00:45:25,560 --> 00:45:27,800
arguments with the old man and
he would always take his teeth

861
00:45:27,800 --> 00:45:29,000
out and throw him out on the
table.

862
00:45:30,000 --> 00:45:33,320
It was the most disgusting thing
in the world, you know, and, you

863
00:45:33,320 --> 00:45:35,960
know, go for the I'm going to
beat your ass.

864
00:45:35,960 --> 00:45:38,720
Let me take my teeth out.
He throws the teeth on the table

865
00:45:38,720 --> 00:45:43,080
and you're just like, wow, who?
Who really?

866
00:45:43,560 --> 00:45:47,440
That's foul.
And at dinner time, it's always

867
00:45:47,440 --> 00:45:50,480
the best.
Yeah, because he throws them on

868
00:45:50,480 --> 00:45:54,360
your plate of food.
You know, what I was thinking

869
00:45:54,360 --> 00:45:58,280
about the other day is.
Having somebody else's teeth in

870
00:45:58,280 --> 00:46:00,680
your food.
Yeah, that's foul.

871
00:46:01,320 --> 00:46:05,520
Or eating with Invisalign on.
That's just the weirdest thing.

872
00:46:05,920 --> 00:46:09,480
Oh, it is, it is.
I have like acid.

873
00:46:09,760 --> 00:46:13,720
I'll have bad acid reflux late
at night and I've already put in

874
00:46:13,720 --> 00:46:17,200
my and I won't pay attention and
I'll just go in and it'll be

875
00:46:17,200 --> 00:46:21,520
2:00 in the morning and my, my
insides will be blowing up and

876
00:46:21,760 --> 00:46:23,960
I'll reach in and I'll grab my
Gammascon and I'll grab 2 pills

877
00:46:23,960 --> 00:46:25,160
and I'll throw them and I'll
start crunching.

878
00:46:25,160 --> 00:46:26,960
I'll go like.
I've done that.

879
00:46:27,560 --> 00:46:31,440
Yeah, I've done that too.
And it's like I'm I look at that

880
00:46:31,440 --> 00:46:35,040
white foaming dog.
I gotta put you on to this new

881
00:46:35,040 --> 00:46:38,440
Japanese one.
Indigestion medicine.

882
00:46:38,760 --> 00:46:41,800
Really it's I think it's made
from clove or something, but

883
00:46:41,800 --> 00:46:43,800
it's it's better than Gavis
gone.

884
00:46:44,000 --> 00:46:46,000
No way.
Nothing's better than Gavis

885
00:46:46,040 --> 00:46:47,880
gone.
This, this is 3 seconds.

886
00:46:47,920 --> 00:46:49,720
It's crazy.
You mix it with water.

887
00:46:49,720 --> 00:46:52,200
It's like a spoonful.
You mix it in the water but.

888
00:46:52,200 --> 00:46:54,760
It's not 3 seconds.
Nums nums everything.

889
00:46:55,440 --> 00:46:57,120
Really.
It's it's insane.

890
00:46:57,160 --> 00:46:59,120
I've never had my God, it might
be.

891
00:46:59,120 --> 00:47:00,800
I gotta do that.
I'll take a picture of it.

892
00:47:01,520 --> 00:47:03,640
It's it's amazing.
I'm going to buy something to

893
00:47:03,640 --> 00:47:06,400
use it because I'm, I mean, I've
had ulcers since I was in my

894
00:47:06,400 --> 00:47:09,560
20s.
I remember the doctors talking

895
00:47:09,560 --> 00:47:12,080
about that.
Well, you know how you sometimes

896
00:47:12,080 --> 00:47:14,560
get like a post belch when
you're when you have the

897
00:47:14,560 --> 00:47:16,840
Gaviscon?
Yeah, and it burns.

898
00:47:18,400 --> 00:47:20,000
Oh, you're talking.
About the one that blows up to

899
00:47:20,000 --> 00:47:21,200
your throat.
Yeah, yeah.

900
00:47:21,800 --> 00:47:24,680
Yeah, that's just normal.
This even numbs that belch,

901
00:47:24,680 --> 00:47:26,720
which is crazy.
Really.

902
00:47:26,720 --> 00:47:29,320
Yeah.
Yeah, 'cause that's like, yeah,

903
00:47:30,120 --> 00:47:32,080
it's bringing up the fruits of
the acid.

904
00:47:32,280 --> 00:47:33,600
You know, somebody's put the
battery in.

905
00:47:33,600 --> 00:47:36,520
Well, when they talk about it,
it it's like you can throw metal

906
00:47:36,520 --> 00:47:38,080
into your stomach and it would
dissolve.

907
00:47:38,080 --> 00:47:40,440
So you got to think your stomach
lining's got to be amazing.

908
00:47:40,800 --> 00:47:44,520
If you Pierce your stomach
lining, then you got to start

909
00:47:44,520 --> 00:47:49,160
getting worried that acid is
rolling into your outer, you

910
00:47:49,160 --> 00:47:52,280
know, your other skin.
I mean, I that's what ulcers

911
00:47:52,280 --> 00:47:54,240
are.
And I had a couple ulcers and I

912
00:47:54,240 --> 00:47:58,280
would tell you that as I used to
tell someone, I said it's like,

913
00:47:58,760 --> 00:48:01,600
it's like someone crawls down
into your stomach and they have

914
00:48:01,600 --> 00:48:06,880
an ice pick and they're pushing
it out and you feel the point.

915
00:48:07,120 --> 00:48:10,160
And I remember it when I was
over at Pomeroy Drive and I had

916
00:48:10,160 --> 00:48:13,120
the, and then and like when the
business started, really excel

917
00:48:13,120 --> 00:48:14,960
and it really started a lot of
pressure and a whole lot of

918
00:48:14,960 --> 00:48:18,000
things.
I would sit there and I would

919
00:48:18,000 --> 00:48:24,040
hold my finger on my stomach
where I could feel the ice pick

920
00:48:24,040 --> 00:48:29,960
coming out at at like 11:00 at
night, 12 o'clock 1:00.

921
00:48:30,040 --> 00:48:33,920
Because as soon as you lay flat,
all the acid just tears your

922
00:48:33,920 --> 00:48:36,760
guts out.
And so then you jump up and I

923
00:48:36,760 --> 00:48:40,880
drink a bottle of Milanta and I
walk around the room, you know,

924
00:48:40,960 --> 00:48:44,400
and she would roll over in her
bed and then and my stomach

925
00:48:44,400 --> 00:48:47,360
would settle down after about an
hour, hour and a half.

926
00:48:47,400 --> 00:48:48,960
So it'd be like 1:00 in the
morning.

927
00:48:49,560 --> 00:48:51,800
And then guess what happens
after you drink a bottle of

928
00:48:51,800 --> 00:48:57,800
Milanta?
Yes, you are absolutely right.

929
00:48:58,400 --> 00:49:01,840
And you go and you sit in the
bathroom and, and, and you are

930
00:49:01,840 --> 00:49:05,360
Mr. Tap Water.
And it's just like, so it's just

931
00:49:05,360 --> 00:49:07,760
a wonderful night of sleep, a
wonderful night.

932
00:49:07,760 --> 00:49:10,960
And then and then you get up the
next morning and you're so tired

933
00:49:11,240 --> 00:49:14,000
and what do you do?
You drink a half a pot of coffee

934
00:49:14,000 --> 00:49:16,520
to get you going.
And you know what that does?

935
00:49:16,720 --> 00:49:21,040
That is the dumbest thing you
can do, because then you have no

936
00:49:21,040 --> 00:49:27,680
food, no water, nothing in your
system but sixteen 2436 ounces

937
00:49:27,680 --> 00:49:31,080
of coffee.
You hop in your truck, you light

938
00:49:31,080 --> 00:49:35,320
your Marlboro, and then you
start going and you drive down.

939
00:49:35,320 --> 00:49:39,600
You drive down Georgetown Tyke
to GW Parkway and you go in and

940
00:49:39,600 --> 00:49:43,480
your guts just sort of start
setting on fire and you realize

941
00:49:43,480 --> 00:49:47,640
that you stuffed handfuls of
cookies and crackers and shit.

942
00:49:47,960 --> 00:49:50,440
Not because you like the taste
of it, because you need

943
00:49:50,440 --> 00:49:54,360
something to soak up the boiling
acid that's coming.

944
00:49:56,000 --> 00:49:59,360
And you're eating, you're eating
oh oh tips ahoy.

945
00:49:59,640 --> 00:50:03,320
And you, you literally take 4
Tips Ahoy cookies and stick them

946
00:50:03,320 --> 00:50:04,880
in your mouth and chomp them
down and eat them.

947
00:50:05,320 --> 00:50:08,440
And then I wonder why I have
dental problems.

948
00:50:08,800 --> 00:50:12,760
I think that there's some
American obsession with the

949
00:50:12,800 --> 00:50:18,000
depletion of your health over a
company or over or even in this.

950
00:50:18,000 --> 00:50:20,520
The artist in the America is
right.

951
00:50:20,520 --> 00:50:23,600
We're starting somebody who
needs to be on borderline

952
00:50:23,600 --> 00:50:26,720
suicide in order to create
something amazing.

953
00:50:26,880 --> 00:50:32,280
Yeah, if you don't give me, I
think it is, it's 612.

954
00:50:32,280 --> 00:50:34,240
Have you heard of that?
No.

955
00:50:35,360 --> 00:50:41,240
Six days a week, 12 hours a day
or there's you're on the 612

956
00:50:41,240 --> 00:50:43,440
squad.
That's a lot of the tech people

957
00:50:43,440 --> 00:50:46,440
out in San Francisco.
I think they have, there's like

958
00:50:47,040 --> 00:50:52,080
there's the six 99 or 969 or
something like that where you,

959
00:50:52,440 --> 00:50:54,240
you come in in the morning and
you work.

960
00:50:54,520 --> 00:50:57,640
It's, it's 996.
That's another one, which is you

961
00:50:57,640 --> 00:51:00,440
work 9:00 to 9:00 six days a
week.

962
00:51:01,080 --> 00:51:05,920
You know, and you think to
yourself, that mentality is to

963
00:51:06,280 --> 00:51:12,160
make something that is a
technical thing that most likely

964
00:51:12,160 --> 00:51:16,480
will be gone in five years, you
know, and it's, it's just so you

965
00:51:16,480 --> 00:51:19,400
destroy your life and yes, you
get, you get a big pile of money

966
00:51:19,400 --> 00:51:23,080
so you can have your house and
your car and your stuff like

967
00:51:23,080 --> 00:51:25,400
that.
And then, and then things change

968
00:51:25,400 --> 00:51:28,960
and it's like it becomes, I
don't know.

969
00:51:29,160 --> 00:51:31,560
I mean, if there's camaraderie
at work and stuff like that and

970
00:51:31,560 --> 00:51:34,560
the, and the, and the fun and
the culture it, it, your family

971
00:51:34,560 --> 00:51:36,600
is, is not the thing that's part
of it.

972
00:51:36,600 --> 00:51:40,400
You're more a family member of
the company than you are.

973
00:51:40,400 --> 00:51:44,440
But but the problem is, is that
the companies don't really, you

974
00:51:44,440 --> 00:51:47,400
know, the bigger ones, I think,
I think smaller ones maybe care

975
00:51:47,400 --> 00:51:53,240
more if they can, but you know,
but if it comes down to losing

976
00:51:53,240 --> 00:51:56,800
the population, I mean, company
crashing or cutting people,

977
00:51:56,800 --> 00:52:00,320
people get cut every time,
doesn't matter, you know, that's

978
00:52:00,960 --> 00:52:03,520
the way it is.
So that's a that's a weird

979
00:52:03,520 --> 00:52:07,520
thing.
I mean, as far as like I would

980
00:52:07,520 --> 00:52:11,800
like my, my teeth the last, I
feel like they will because I

981
00:52:11,800 --> 00:52:15,320
do.
I would say I do more dental

982
00:52:15,320 --> 00:52:23,880
shit now at 65 than I did it
5545352515105.

983
00:52:24,200 --> 00:52:27,600
Absolutely.
I've gotten I, I've gotten more

984
00:52:27,600 --> 00:52:30,240
and more.
And you are like your your

985
00:52:30,240 --> 00:52:35,120
mother taught you from a very,
very young age to take care of

986
00:52:35,120 --> 00:52:39,120
your teeth early and often.
And I and I think that you brush

987
00:52:39,200 --> 00:52:41,920
at least twice times a day.
Am I?

988
00:52:42,000 --> 00:52:43,360
Am I correct?
No, I do.

989
00:52:43,600 --> 00:52:45,400
You have pretty good dental
habits.

990
00:52:45,400 --> 00:52:47,720
You, I started flossing five
years ago.

991
00:52:47,720 --> 00:52:48,920
Really.
Consistently.

992
00:52:49,240 --> 00:52:50,520
Yeah.
And that and it's.

993
00:52:50,520 --> 00:52:52,520
And it's like a lot of things
when you get the habit, you get

994
00:52:52,520 --> 00:52:56,320
in the and it's if you're good
at it and it's fast, then it it

995
00:52:56,320 --> 00:52:58,200
comes and goes and it's gone.
It's easy.

996
00:52:58,600 --> 00:53:00,680
Yeah, most definitely.
That's for sure.

997
00:53:01,080 --> 00:53:03,320
Well, I think that's our episode
for this week, right?

998
00:53:03,640 --> 00:53:06,920
I think we're good.
So as always, should we take out

999
00:53:06,920 --> 00:53:08,520
our teeth?
And we're going to take out our

1000
00:53:08,520 --> 00:53:13,720
teeth for this thumbnail here.
But as always, check out the

1001
00:53:13,720 --> 00:53:15,880
website and social media.
All right, we'll talk to you

1002
00:53:15,880 --> 00:53:17,280
next week.
Bye bye.