Episode 114: Framing

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Welcome back to a record, my
father.

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Today we're going to be talking
about framing.

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So I went to Hey Framer
recently.

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I actually, you know, what's
really funny about this framer

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is that I've been going to him.
There's this thing that I'm

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looking at now.
It's the first movie poster for

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the the short film I did last
year.

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And the framer's name is Phil.
I shit you not his name.

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Is Phil.
I'm not even kidding.

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And me and this guy like really
struck it off.

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Really did a great job.
He did a great job on this.

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Frame.
Can you go into detail on what

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struck it off means 'cause I
have that.

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Struck it up, struck it up, I
guess.

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I don't hit it off, is what some
of us say.

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Yeah, struck it off is something
that well that.

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Kind of sounds bad, doesn't it?
It does sound bad.

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It sounds bad.
We.

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Really hate it off because when
I was in Mongolia this.

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Did you guys talk about facial
hair?

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No, no we didn't, but he is a
mustache too much like mine.

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Similarly, I see you grew the
mustache and he everybody's

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giving you greed and.
He's like, I'm not that good of

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a painter.
I he literally is one of the

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best painters I've ever seen.
Like he's showing me images of

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his paintings and this guy's
like probably 60.

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I don't know.
Does he do paint by numbers?

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No, no, no, no, he does just
hand freehand painting.

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You can take a picture now, you
can take a picture now, you can

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send it away and they will come
back with the paint by numbers

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of that picture and it really
looks like it.

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I think there's something about
framers that's like the last

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artisanal thing, or the.
And when you say framer, you're

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talking about someone that
actually makes the frame for the

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painting.
Exactly.

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Yeah, well, not a.
Doggy does that.

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Your uncle Doggy does that.
Yeah, it's a the last craft I

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feel like I.
Mean he's like amazing what's.

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Going on but he.
He also does the touch up

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because he works for a lot of
people that resell art and they

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sell them to people to fill
their houses.

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And what he does is he makes
custom frames.

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They'll come in with a, they'll
come in with a painting, it's

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100 years old and the frame will
be all messed up and the the

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corner will be burnt.
He will repaint the corner.

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He will remake the the the
frame.

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You know what he uses?
What?

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Body putty?
Oh, like the wood Like yeah,

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instead of wood.
He.

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I mean, no magic wood.
He goes Nah, Nah, I can't paint

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on that.
And it doesn't dry and it's just

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not hard enough and it doesn't
do this.

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And I mean, he's got, he says he
uses like a Bondo body, the body

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putty that you put on a car.
And he said that's what he

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remixed his frames with, because
it's stronger than the frame

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itself.
I remember you guys came over.

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They came over one time and you
guys were doing cigar boxes like

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you were customizing cigar boxes
'cause you had so many with this

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clay, this fast, dry clay that
you put in the oven.

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And he made a frog, and it was
the best frog out of clay I'd

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ever seen in my life.
It was crazy.

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He's an artistic dude.
He just can't do it.

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He has, he looks at things
differently in a way, and he

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kind of looks like Frank Zappa.
So he.

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Does I never thought about that
he.

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Kind of has that, that
otherworldly thing and that, you

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know, and it's like when you,
when you look at an empty trash

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can, what do you see?
And some people see, oh, it's a

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5 gallon bucket of water and but
it's empty.

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And other person says, oh, I
could use it for this.

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They want to fill it up.
Other people can say, oh, it

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could be a hat.
Some people would say, oh, I can

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make it into, you know,
clothing, you know, And it just

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like it's really cool to meet
people that look at things

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completely out of any
perspective that you would ever

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grab.
But this guy, Phil.

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So I just went in one day.
I said I needed this poster.

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Frame, are we related?
I mean, his name's Phil too.

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Right now it's now it's in the
frame.

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Right now it's in the frame.
This woman in Mongolia gave me a

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postcard, right of thank you for
coming to my country and helping

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me tell my story to the world.
And and it's written in

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Mongolian and on the front it
says a leader is only happy when

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his people are happy.
And that's Chingus gone on it.

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And then it has like the, the
kind of the silk book, it's

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Chingus in Mongolia, it's Gangus
outside of Mongolia.

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And then I put $200 bills that
are Mongolian, $100 bills, which

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is less than I think 2 cents or
something.

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It's the equivalent of the, the
money or the transaction rate or

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whatever.
And then so he's framing that in

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this beautiful bamboo wood
frame.

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And I can't wait to see it.
But that's why I brought up the

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framing thing because I did that
yesterday and it's going to be

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double sided because on one side
this chink is gone, on the other

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is the written note, right?
And I was like, how do you do

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that?
And he's like, he's like, we're

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going to cut the mat out.
And so it's going to be double

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sided glass on both sides so you
can flip it over.

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Are you?
Are you this woman that gave

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this to you?
Are you going to send her

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anything?
Yeah, I could the I have her

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address on the postcard, so oh,
that'd be kind of cool and send.

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It back to her as a package.
Yeah, I can make it.

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Well, I can make another one.
There's only one postcard that

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she wrote to me so.
Oh, and he put the original on

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there.
Yeah.

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Yeah.
Oh, OK, yeah.

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But it looks I'm excited for it.
What would be cool for you is to

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have your whole team sign a
photo of your whole team

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together.
And she had a guest.

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Book that we all signed and that
with the e-mail phone number and

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then I think address actually.
So I don't know, maybe they'll

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maybe they'll come out here.
You never know.

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So there's a water cup on my
desk that's about to spill from

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the microphone.
Got it, saved it.

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What's that song?
Sun Sun Sun Microphone.

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But no, I was thinking about
framing too because oh you're

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getting an unknown call, That's
nice.

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I applied for insurance
yesterday and I've gotten 14

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calls between today and
yesterday and I hate it and I

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don't even remember.
I think I clicked on the website

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and they got my phone number
somehow.

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I I'm never doing that ever
again.

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No, no, I, I did that.
They they came after me in a

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very, very big way.
No, it's really.

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Very big way when I, when I,
each time I went on, I would be

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and even after I signed up, I
was just getting like when I did

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the Anthem one, they were just
crazy.

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Like that's what's happening.
We can do better, we can do

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better.
Mutual of Omaha, every single

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one.
Well, The thing is, is they have

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leads and when you register,
they buy the they buy the

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registration leads and they,
they give the leads first to the

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people that paid for them and
they give them like 24 hours.

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And then they sell them to a
secondary, they sell them to a

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tertiary.
And it's like, oh, these leads

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are 48 hours old.
These are 72 hours.

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That means people have already
pinged them twice, provided

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they're worth of crap.
I can't wait for a week from now

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when I don't get 14 calls every
day because today's been bad.

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You probably.
Get.

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Well, what happens is. 7:00 this
morning already.

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Sometimes it escalates.
I got to stop answering.

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Yeah, yeah.
Oh gosh, you never answer.

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That's, that's that will make it
escalate every time.

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I mean, unless you want to have
them do you, but they'll,

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they'll, they'll commit you and
they'll say, well, we can move

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forward here with your credit
card.

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Then we'll just bill it right
away.

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I mean, you cannot.
Once you get into it, it's like

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you've you've, you've touched
the pit of hell.

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Yeah, no, it's I feel like I'm a
mist in the pits of hell now.

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But the framing wise remember
when I did that brass rubbing in

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elementary school?
It's hanging in our.

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Library, I mean, it's hanging in
our our living room that.

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Was the my first experience with
what it is to get something

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framed because I think we went
to Michael's or something and I

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don't think Michael's does
framing anymore.

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Do they?
They it?

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I think they stopped.
They do.

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No, Michael still does.
They still do.

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Color wheel was the one that
doggy used to do.

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He he worked for them.
I think he still does.

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He does all their framing.
They do like, but he works at

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home, though.
Yeah, but he gets the work from

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them and then he puts it
together and it brings it back

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to them.
So yeah.

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So it's like that.
All these people subcontract out

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that stuff to to experts.
I think that's so cool.

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Experts.
Experts generally don't have a

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hey, we just do my name is Bob.
I'll just do framing.

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So I opened a framing shop.
Instead of that, they go to a

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big place and they say, hey,
we'll do all your framing.

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I have a shop.
I don't really need a, I don't

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want to deal with people and
buying and selling stuff.

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I'd just rather do the work
'cause I'm really good at the

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work, not at the other side.
And it's like, you know, you,

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you compartmentalize the things
that you're better AT.

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And that's that's one of the
reasons it's gone that way.

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I love niche craftsmanship so
much, specifically woodworking.

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I don't know why I have such an
affiliate.

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I think every man in the world
has a huge affiliation with

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woodworking.
I don't know why I couldn't tell

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you, but if there's something
about it that is just so

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enticing.
On that line, we have three big

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wooden gates that go into the
backyard and there's they're the

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western, the red western cedar.
They are 1 is like a a giant.

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It's got a Round Top on it.
It looks like, you know, and

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it's connected to stone walls
and it's really cool one.

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It's a single giant swinging
gate.

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I've got another one that's like
224 inch, 30 inch swinging gates

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back and forth.
And then I've got another two in

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the backyard and those are two
swinging gates.

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I mean these gates probably
weigh 5075 lbs.

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You really think they weigh that
much, those things?

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Are the right, the, the one in
the, the big one over there

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probably weighs, probably weighs
over 100 lbs easy, you know,

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and, but we put those in in
2006.

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We have done nothing to them,
nothing Western red cedar never,

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never sealed, never do anything.
Because I talked to somebody and

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said, ah, you can seal it and
then you got to seal it all the

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time to make sure it continues
And, or you can just leave it

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out and see what happens.
And it kind of Grays and it

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looks nice and, and now it is
2025.

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So it's been 19 years and I'm
replacing them.

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Yeah, I sealed them one summer.
I remember that.

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I I did.
That that's why you, that's why

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they're all messed up, 'cause
you, you met, you sealed them.

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No, no, no.
I think they lasted 900 years

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because I sealed them.
Yeah, I got the water seal and

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then that was great.
You remember.

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I think somebody said that, but,
you know, once they've been

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already waterized, then, you
know, and I, I don't really

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care, you know.
That's kind of a good point.

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If you seal it after it's
already been rained on it for 10

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years, you're just holding it.
Isn't it just like locking in

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the moisture?
I would, I would think, but I'm

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not.
I, I, I don't, you know, I'm not

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a wood guy.
No.

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I know when you think about it.
You know what I think is cool

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too is machinists.
You don't really hear about them

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anymore.
Machinists.

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Doggy Doggy's brother's a
machinist.

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And then I I have somebody in
Florida.

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That's somebody that makes
tools, right?

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Ken.
Ken Robinson.

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He's a, he's a machinist as
well.

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No.
Well, it depends.

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I mean, he would make anything.
His brother would make anything.

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I remember him saying something
about making a light Saber.

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That's so cool.
That worked.

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He made a light Saber that
worked.

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So that's kind of cool.
You know, the whole handle and

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everything and you know, you're
like, but just the whole idea to

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take a piece of metal and make
it round and cylinder impressive

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things.
And the hand grip and then the

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silver button and the green
button and do.

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And when you start seeing people
mix metals, it's like, I mean,

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when I see copper and I'll like
an aluminum mixture together,

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it's just like, wow, that is so
cool.

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Well, that was like the man that
taught me science, the king of

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random me the YouTube channel,
and he would turn a microwave

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into a spot welder and it was
amazing stuff, really.

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Then he got into the what was
it?

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It's the airplane thing where
you have a fan on the back and

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it's like a go Kart and you have
a parachute on.

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Top and he's dead.
He was. 42 and he ran into a

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wall in New Mexico, died and he
had three children and a wife

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and he was like maybe late 30s.
I don't think he was 40 yet, but

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he taught me so much science.
The king of random.

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He was great.
His YouTube channel blew up the

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last 10 years.
He died in like 2016 or 2017.

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That was such a travesty because
that was that really was the

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last time the tragedy.
Not interested in science,

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that's what I just said.
No, I went, I went to AI, went

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to a really good school.
Tragedy.

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I just said that.
What are you talking?

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About I thought you said
travesty.

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No, I said tragedy, but I bit
the side of my mouth yet 2 days

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ago and a hole in the side of my
mouth does not feel great.

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You ever wipe the side of your
mouth when you're sleeping?

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You ever do that?
Yeah, I only want to get really

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fat or really drunk.
Yeah, that, that's a fairpoint

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when?
You're a little bit of both.

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You know, when I'm I'm, I'm, I'm
flubbery and then my mouth

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drops.
But now I wait.

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I I always wear these inserts so
it doesn't matter.

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I I stopped doing it.
I stopped wearing my retainer.

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I.
Stopped wearing the frame for my

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teeth my.
Teeth fall around.

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Well, mine split in half.
I lost the top part of it

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because it's split in half and
then the other bottom part split

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in half.
Oh wow, you order them again?

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When's the last time you framed
something though?

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Me, I would say we framed.
My gosh, we framed a lot of

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things.
We we never framed your diploma

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when you graduate.
UV No, that's funny.

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We never did that.
It sits in the closet in the

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tube.
I mean, I've asked you a couple

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of times and it's like 400 bucks
to do it, but you're like, Nah,

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I don't want it. 400 Really.
I think so.

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Yeah, you can.
UVA will do it for.

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You, I got a deal on this, this
one that I'm looking at, it's

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100 bucks I think.
Wow.

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And it's small.
It's about the size of a diploma

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too.
Well, pick it up and show it to

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me.
What are you talking?

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About I think I just didn't want
to give UVA any more money.

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I think that that's what it was.
I was, I was mad.

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I was like, I'd rather go to do
a private frame.

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You want to see it, let me grab
it.

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Grab it.
Let's see here.

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Oh, I remember that.
Yeah.

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That's.
There were trees.

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Yeah.
First thing I've ever done.

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Yeah, you're going to have a lot
of those, huh?

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Yeah, I got the the postcard
post or done for if we ever get

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an office.
I don't really know office space

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in just day and ages.
Is that what you're going to

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call?
It, I don't know, that's a

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working title.
Yeah, that's certainly a working

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title.
But and totally, I really want

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to edit it because it's 90 hours
of footage.

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Yeah, you got to edit it.
And then the title generally

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comes out of that.
When you edit, when you edit and

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do that, do you have to have a
storyline?

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I mean, do you think OK
beginning?

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Because you generally have a
storyline for narrative.

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This isn't narrative, this is
Doc, right?

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So you really find the storyline
within the documentary with what

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you shot.
So the editing, it's funny

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because I, I think, I don't
know, I said this before, but

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it's like the movie is not the
director's medium.

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It's not the writer's medium,
It's not the actor's medium.

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It's the editor's medium.
Because the editor does

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everything, really.
Yeah, the editor compiles all of

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the important things and then
really tells the story.

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Who's the editor?
We're looking for editors right

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now are.
You going to be part.

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Of the, we have a couple leads
and then I'm working.

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I contacted translator today
actually.

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Did you ping?
What's his name?

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Who's what's his name?
Ken Burns.

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No, no, no, not yet.
I have.

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Done.
I mean, if you're thinking about

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people.
That I want to cut a trailer or

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no really a teaser first to have
something no, because you when

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you contact somebody with empty
kind of promises it's really not

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great that's why I've kind of
learned is that if you contact

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people too prematurely they
become disinterested right and

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it's like why would you contact
them six months before you have

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anything or two months really
it's going to be a month of a

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month or two so.
You're going to have to put

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something together, otherwise
you're going to be selling it

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through your mouth and you want
to sell it through the.

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Actual medium?
Exactly.

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I like that.
That's a that's a good idea.

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Having a physical thing to say.
Prepared, yeah.

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Man, my mouth hurts.
What's the difference between

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having an idea and a plan and
actually having a prototype of

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something you want to do?
100%.

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It's a huge difference.
When we did conflicts authority,

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when we were pitching, that is
like we were talking about what

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we were going to build and they
were like, yeah, can you show me

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something?
Can you show me something?

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Can you show me something?
Can you show me something

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without a prototype?
I can't really, you know?

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And they always had all these
different ways out of not

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funding.
And so then we came up with a

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prototype and then it was like,
well, this is really cool.

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That's the whole thing too.
It's like a lot of, specifically

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with the entertainment industry,
it's like, oh, it'd be great if

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you could help me do this.
It'd be great if you could help

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me film this.
And it's like, no, I've already

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done it.
I've already done it and the

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whole idea is that if you've
already done it, you should have

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some sort of representation that
you actually did it instead of

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just saying I have 90 hours of
footage.

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I went there for 25 days and
it's like, sure, you have the

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the Instagram post, but you
don't have the actual teaser.

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You don't have the trailer.
You don't.

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Have any cut right and putting
that together is.

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Yeah, no, exactly.
Yeah.

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Wow.
Oh my heart.

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God, I've been getting this
heart thing.

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It's kind of annoying.
I think I think it's the mold.

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Through your armpit.
Yeah.

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But yeah, I framed that thing
recently.

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And then you're going to frame
the poster for the animated

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thing too.
The animated thing is now done,

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animation is done.
It needs to be edited together

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and then we're completely done
with that with the the edit, and

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then it's going to be scored.
I think Casey's been working on

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the scoring, which is great.
I think about the, the cool

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things that we've had framed
were, I remember the pictures of

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you when you were like 6 months
old that we did out in the front

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yard.
There's me and you and your

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mother family was there and we
were all wearing suits and ties

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and all that kind of happy
horseshit.

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And, and we had a professional
photographer come over and take

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the pictures and then we sent
them out.

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We framed certain ones and you
know, when you go framing and

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you pick the frame, you pick the
color, you pick the backing or

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whatever it is, you pick like
whatever the stuff is that goes

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around the, the, the inside.
You know, how, what kind of

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hanger do you want?
Do you think it'll need 2?

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Do you need one?
Is it going to do this?

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And, you know, just like on and
on, Do you want to put glass on

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it?
No, I don't want to.

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What do you want to do with how
do you want to be touchable?

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And then there's one we did a
sampler.

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My grandfather had a sampler of
his grandmother that was done in

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1830.
What is a sampler?

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A sampler is something that in
the olden days, grandmothers

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used to sew things about their
life.

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And it was like a little, you
know, story of some sort.

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And but she sewed it on a like a
potato sack, you know, like a

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really rough potato sack.
And you could see it And it was

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about, it was about two feet by
by 1820 inches, OK.

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And it was literally
disintegrating because it's 180

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years old.
So we took it, affixed it to a

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surface and said you're going to
have to fix it if you want to

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get this to stay or survive.
They do that.

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And then you put the backing.
I mean, not the backing.

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What is it you put the like the?
Little the mat.

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The mat, you put the matting
around it and the frame and the

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glass and everything like that,
and then you seal and your vapor

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seal is this thing in so it
doesn't rot anymore.

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I mean, just a gorgeous piece,
but gave that to the sister

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because she wanted that.
Who's the sister?

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Your sister.
My sister Leslie, and then I

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remember my mother, had these
two.

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She had an Audubon book of
flowers and birds, beautiful

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beautiful pictures and it was
Encyclopedia John Jay, Audubon,

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semi whatever.
There were pages that were

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ripped out of certain things
like 2 squirrels.

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There was another one that was a
picture of a Lily I think it

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was.
And I got the two squirrels and

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the two squirrels in my parents
house were just sort of slapped

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into a frame and covered and I
brought them home.

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And then when I got them after
my mother died in 90 No 2000, I

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had them reframed and took
because there was there's a lot

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of residual smoke on it and
everything like that that had

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and had to be literally pried
apart.

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And then you take the and it was
literally just, it's a piece in

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one page of a book.
And that's what the that's what

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the picture was, But it was just
like.

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I mean it the the dudes, the
dudes paintings were just the

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Audubon paintings.
Oh my gosh, the detail.

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I mean, the squirrels look alive
and it hangs right in my front

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door.
The Autobahn painting, what are

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you talking?
About.

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Yeah, yeah, It's an Autobahn
painting.

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Let me see.
I'll send it to you.

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I'll send a picture.
Of it after this, is that the

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one in the hallway upstairs?
No, downstairs as you walk out

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the front door on to the right.
To the left is the Barrymore,

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the John Barry.
And.

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If you look online you will see.
John James Autobahn, is that

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what you're talking about?
Yes, and if you look to the

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left.
There's a of this style.

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There's a John Barry, there's a,
a lithograph John Barrymore,

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right?
Yeah.

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And if you look at online for
him, there's like one painting

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that he did that's really
famous.

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It's copied by millions of
people and it's very difficult

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to find an original.
And but she has a lithograph and

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it's like 71, but you don't know
if it's it's actually truly from

449
00:21:27,360 --> 00:21:30,160
the original lithograph or it's
just a stolen one.

450
00:21:30,600 --> 00:21:34,560
But it still looks really cool
and it's and it and it shows an

451
00:21:34,560 --> 00:21:38,920
old man standing next to a
junked out car in front of his

452
00:21:39,000 --> 00:21:42,200
what it looks like his house.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

453
00:21:42,200 --> 00:21:43,560
And always look at a granddad
or.

454
00:21:43,600 --> 00:21:46,120
Something it was supposed to be
a self-portrait of.

455
00:21:47,120 --> 00:21:48,560
Is it?
I think it's Lionel Barrymore.

456
00:21:49,040 --> 00:21:50,760
Oh, Lionel Barrymore, that's who
it.

457
00:21:50,760 --> 00:21:53,200
Is and if you think about the
Barrymores, you and you start to

458
00:21:53,200 --> 00:21:57,080
look back, yeah, yeah, you look
at like, what's her name?

459
00:21:57,320 --> 00:22:01,880
Who's the little he?
Was also an actor John Barrymore

460
00:22:01,880 --> 00:22:03,640
and Lionel Barrymore, but the
actors.

461
00:22:03,880 --> 00:22:05,040
But who's the one that's
current?

462
00:22:05,160 --> 00:22:08,520
She has her own show.
Both the graph Barrymore.

463
00:22:09,200 --> 00:22:10,920
Oh, Drew Barrymore.
Yeah.

464
00:22:12,280 --> 00:22:14,000
OK.
No, it wasn't Lionel Barrymore.

465
00:22:14,000 --> 00:22:16,200
You're right.
Because he signed lithograph

466
00:22:16,240 --> 00:22:17,800
prints.
And this is the exact same

467
00:22:17,800 --> 00:22:19,080
style.
Yeah.

468
00:22:19,320 --> 00:22:21,920
That.
Lionel Barrymore.

469
00:22:21,920 --> 00:22:22,960
Yeah.
Yep.

470
00:22:23,360 --> 00:22:28,120
Wow, you think about those old
like all the different things.

471
00:22:28,120 --> 00:22:30,400
I mean, I'm looking around in
here and I have, I have one

472
00:22:30,400 --> 00:22:34,640
printing a lithograph that
Doggy's mother did and it's 2

473
00:22:34,640 --> 00:22:40,480
flowers surrounded by a, a large
leaf.

474
00:22:40,680 --> 00:22:43,120
It looks like, almost like a, a
firm leaf.

475
00:22:43,280 --> 00:22:46,920
And we have it in blue.
And then there's ones that

476
00:22:46,920 --> 00:22:49,160
you've done, but usually yours
are on canvas and you just.

477
00:22:49,160 --> 00:22:51,440
I did a bunch of lithographs in
your year.

478
00:22:52,240 --> 00:22:54,480
I'm just, no, I'm looking into
ones like you painted.

479
00:22:54,480 --> 00:22:59,120
You painted a mountain scene,
you painted a weird square.

480
00:22:59,640 --> 00:23:01,840
You know, what do you call it?
What is it, Van Gogh?

481
00:23:01,840 --> 00:23:07,320
It's Cubism.
Reginald Marsh is my favorite,

482
00:23:08,760 --> 00:23:10,880
my favorite lithographer.
If I remember correctly,

483
00:23:11,040 --> 00:23:13,520
Reginald Marsh was a really big
guy there's.

484
00:23:13,600 --> 00:23:16,680
So many we're getting into
photography now as opposed to,

485
00:23:16,680 --> 00:23:19,520
well, what's the guy named?
Did those out in Utah?

486
00:23:21,560 --> 00:23:24,720
Oh, you mean in New Mexico?
Are you talking about the

487
00:23:24,720 --> 00:23:28,320
photographer Ansel Adams?
Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's some

488
00:23:28,320 --> 00:23:33,000
cool stuff, 'cause the stuff is
really, it makes you go there.

489
00:23:33,280 --> 00:23:36,200
I think that's sit in a chair
for like a week and then.

490
00:23:38,000 --> 00:23:41,480
Well, you would see what it all
what what the picture looked

491
00:23:41,480 --> 00:23:44,840
like at different times of days
and nights, different types of

492
00:23:44,840 --> 00:23:47,760
weather and then decide which
one was the best.

493
00:23:48,280 --> 00:23:50,560
That was the thing I most looked
forward to in elementary school

494
00:23:50,560 --> 00:23:54,000
was Mom used to come in and do
these PowerPoint presentations

495
00:23:54,000 --> 00:23:55,240
with I think three other
mothers.

496
00:23:55,240 --> 00:23:57,440
It was like the Arts Community
committee or something.

497
00:23:58,040 --> 00:24:04,040
And they did Da Vinci and then
they did Ansel Adams.

498
00:24:04,600 --> 00:24:07,320
Yeah, I think they did one other
person, but I think they only

499
00:24:07,320 --> 00:24:09,600
did it twice or three times in
6th grade.

500
00:24:10,040 --> 00:24:13,400
But that was my, I think my
favorite part of the entire six

501
00:24:13,400 --> 00:24:16,560
years that I was there.
Yeah, that was great.

502
00:24:16,840 --> 00:24:20,320
And lunch.
Yeah, I love the the Mexican

503
00:24:20,320 --> 00:24:22,280
pizza.
No, no Friday lunches.

504
00:24:22,280 --> 00:24:23,120
It's so.
Weird.

505
00:24:23,440 --> 00:24:25,560
Oh yeah, that was good.
But you don't remember Friday

506
00:24:25,560 --> 00:24:26,600
lunches.
Oh my gosh.

507
00:24:26,960 --> 00:24:28,800
Oh my gosh.
I'm so hurt.

508
00:24:29,000 --> 00:24:31,760
I don't remember at all.
No, I have no idea.

509
00:24:32,400 --> 00:24:35,720
Subway, Yeah.
Well, all your friends like me

510
00:24:35,720 --> 00:24:38,360
because I'd always bring Subway
and extra chips and they would

511
00:24:38,360 --> 00:24:41,800
be there and I remember that.
No, yeah, I do.

512
00:24:42,360 --> 00:24:44,040
Yeah.
But yeah.

513
00:24:44,040 --> 00:24:46,120
But that has nothing to remember
Thanksgiving.

514
00:24:47,640 --> 00:24:51,800
Remember Thanksgiving lunch at
the the elementary school?

515
00:24:51,800 --> 00:24:55,240
That was just nasty.
It was like boot on a plate, you

516
00:24:55,240 --> 00:24:57,840
know, I.
Remember eating and like how did

517
00:24:57,840 --> 00:25:01,480
the pilgrims survive?
How did the Pilgrims survive

518
00:25:01,480 --> 00:25:03,080
this?
It's amazing.

519
00:25:03,080 --> 00:25:05,720
Oh, they survived by giving the
Native Americans smallpox, and

520
00:25:05,720 --> 00:25:08,040
then they.
Well, yeah, but you, you know,

521
00:25:08,080 --> 00:25:11,640
you you've never been hungry.
No, Yeah, yeah, that's a very

522
00:25:11,640 --> 00:25:13,320
good point.
I mean, so there's, there's

523
00:25:13,320 --> 00:25:16,040
like, I mean, that's the thing
that we, we forget when we

524
00:25:16,040 --> 00:25:20,600
become choosy is that we, we
have the opportunity to be

525
00:25:20,600 --> 00:25:23,440
choosy.
And when we're not choosy, you

526
00:25:23,440 --> 00:25:26,840
know, it's like, that's why in
the olden days, it used to be

527
00:25:26,840 --> 00:25:29,000
eats what's on your plate.
And it's like, because there's

528
00:25:29,000 --> 00:25:30,880
nothing else.
They never, they never finished

529
00:25:30,880 --> 00:25:34,400
that statement.
And you'd be like, oh, as though

530
00:25:34,400 --> 00:25:37,520
you had a choice in what you
could and could not eat.

531
00:25:37,960 --> 00:25:40,680
And parents would yell at you
and be mean to make you eat what

532
00:25:40,680 --> 00:25:44,560
they served you.
But in reality, it's all they

533
00:25:44,560 --> 00:25:48,680
had.
So eat it, shut up or eat And,

534
00:25:48,680 --> 00:25:52,520
and they want to eat something
and they and you know, and, and

535
00:25:52,520 --> 00:25:57,320
many parents knew like a basic,
you know, vegetable, meat,

536
00:25:57,800 --> 00:25:59,480
carbohydrates, that kind of
stuff.

537
00:25:59,720 --> 00:26:02,920
I mean, that's kind of whatever
that drove all the food, you

538
00:26:02,920 --> 00:26:05,600
know, So it's weird, you know,
that we need organization.

539
00:26:05,600 --> 00:26:08,880
Tell us how to what kind of food
we need and what whether or not

540
00:26:08,880 --> 00:26:11,120
we should or should not eat
vegetables and fruits every day

541
00:26:11,120 --> 00:26:12,440
and all that kind of stuff like
that.

542
00:26:13,160 --> 00:26:16,640
But I mean.
Well, that was Big Dairy.

543
00:26:16,640 --> 00:26:20,160
When I was in elementary school,
USDA sponsored public elementary

544
00:26:20,160 --> 00:26:24,160
schools and they had a food
pyramid which had the milk as

545
00:26:24,160 --> 00:26:26,840
the biggest part of the pyramid.
And they said you needed to

546
00:26:26,840 --> 00:26:29,560
drink at least three glasses of
milk a day to be a healthy kid.

547
00:26:29,800 --> 00:26:32,120
And when I was a kid, you
weren't allowed to drink water

548
00:26:32,120 --> 00:26:34,440
at anybody's houses.
They only gave you milk.

549
00:26:34,440 --> 00:26:37,160
And when I asked for water when
I was 6 through 9 years old,

550
00:26:37,160 --> 00:26:40,200
they told me go fuck myself.
And it was just, it was crazy.

551
00:26:40,200 --> 00:26:43,360
So is that what was that the
exact words that the mothers

552
00:26:43,360 --> 00:26:44,800
used?
Yes, exactly.

553
00:26:45,480 --> 00:26:46,840
But they would say, no, that's
unhealthy.

554
00:26:46,840 --> 00:26:48,920
You can't drink water as a kid.
And I'm like, that's the most

555
00:26:48,920 --> 00:26:51,760
ridiculous thing ever.
And now you see the reverse of

556
00:26:51,760 --> 00:26:54,160
it.
Big water is making people this

557
00:26:54,160 --> 00:26:57,680
big fad on hydration that you
need way more water than you

558
00:26:57,680 --> 00:26:59,560
really need.
They're like you need. 3 gallons

559
00:26:59,560 --> 00:27:01,320
a day a day.
And I'm like, and you know who

560
00:27:01,320 --> 00:27:02,960
says that?
Probably fucking Dasani.

561
00:27:03,200 --> 00:27:05,120
Dasani probably says that or
Nestle.

562
00:27:05,120 --> 00:27:06,640
Because water isn't a human,
right?

563
00:27:06,960 --> 00:27:09,400
And it's crazy.
It's crazy.

564
00:27:09,400 --> 00:27:12,680
I love that I see Bill Burr
thing where he's like, they they

565
00:27:12,680 --> 00:27:14,560
should kill that guy.
He said.

566
00:27:14,680 --> 00:27:18,400
The CEO of Nestle says that, you
know, hey, maybe we should get a

567
00:27:18,600 --> 00:27:21,920
maybe we should all get together
and control the water, you know,

568
00:27:21,920 --> 00:27:24,480
and he goes like, water's not a
right.

569
00:27:24,680 --> 00:27:27,280
Oh my gosh.
Not a human right?

570
00:27:27,280 --> 00:27:30,160
Yeah.
Wow, that's that's that's very

571
00:27:30,160 --> 00:27:30,680
sad.
I just.

572
00:27:30,680 --> 00:27:33,920
Don't know how we looked at the
jungle as Neanderthals and said,

573
00:27:33,920 --> 00:27:37,320
you know what, let's make money.
Let's make let's make us pay for

574
00:27:37,320 --> 00:27:39,960
this instead of making it free
for everybody.

575
00:27:40,360 --> 00:27:43,320
Well, there's a, there's a sense
that you get more choices when

576
00:27:43,320 --> 00:27:47,720
you do that and you start to
you, you segregate your

577
00:27:47,720 --> 00:27:50,600
workflow.
That's a, that's way too much

578
00:27:50,600 --> 00:27:55,600
complicated words.
But what you do is you didn't

579
00:27:55,600 --> 00:27:58,080
have to survive completely on
your own.

580
00:27:58,080 --> 00:28:00,640
You had somebody else that made
wood for the house, somebody

581
00:28:00,640 --> 00:28:03,840
else that made roofing for the
house that was better.

582
00:28:03,840 --> 00:28:06,800
Than the gatherers.
Somebody else that would make

583
00:28:07,640 --> 00:28:10,320
that would, would give you would
have the the seeds that you

584
00:28:10,320 --> 00:28:12,920
would need to grow the food
because just otherwise you would

585
00:28:12,920 --> 00:28:15,480
have to gather the seeds
yourself, dry them and and grow

586
00:28:15,480 --> 00:28:18,640
them yourself.
So there's like, there's so many

587
00:28:18,640 --> 00:28:23,880
things that make distributed
things like that easier and

588
00:28:23,880 --> 00:28:25,360
better.
You know, it was like the Ford

589
00:28:25,360 --> 00:28:27,560
line.
What do you call it when you

590
00:28:27,560 --> 00:28:33,240
invented the, what was it?
The the.

591
00:28:34,760 --> 00:28:37,040
Assembly line.
Assembly line, yeah, I mean it's

592
00:28:37,040 --> 00:28:40,560
that, but I mean assembly line
was really sort of a just thing,

593
00:28:40,560 --> 00:28:44,040
a change from what we were
already doing with so many

594
00:28:44,040 --> 00:28:46,640
different things.
In a line it was around the

595
00:28:46,640 --> 00:28:48,320
factory.
But it was in a line and it was

596
00:28:48,360 --> 00:28:52,440
on one conveyor belt and didn't
stop and all that kind of stuff.

597
00:28:52,440 --> 00:28:55,480
And that was that was the
beginning of that, you know, so

598
00:28:55,920 --> 00:28:58,200
different, different thing.
Yeah, most definitely.

599
00:28:59,720 --> 00:29:01,080
But I'm thinking of other
frames.

600
00:29:01,080 --> 00:29:03,680
When you think about framing I,
I would hear.

601
00:29:04,280 --> 00:29:06,640
Business plan is a frame frame
for a business.

602
00:29:07,360 --> 00:29:09,560
Yeah.
Well, that that would be a

603
00:29:10,760 --> 00:29:14,600
framing, a thought or framing a
plan is where you get the

604
00:29:14,600 --> 00:29:18,320
outline of what you think it
should be and then you, then

605
00:29:18,320 --> 00:29:21,080
you, then you, then you fill in
the guts and the guts are

606
00:29:21,080 --> 00:29:23,840
different from framing.
Can you frame that for me or, or

607
00:29:23,840 --> 00:29:26,760
the conversation?
I'd like to frame that with, you

608
00:29:26,760 --> 00:29:30,320
know.
Oh yeah, I I forgot about that.

609
00:29:30,760 --> 00:29:33,480
If you think about that context,
that's why when you first said

610
00:29:33,480 --> 00:29:35,600
it, I think it's funny that we
started out this conversation on

611
00:29:35,600 --> 00:29:39,600
framing when 5 minutes before we
had discussed multiple different

612
00:29:39,600 --> 00:29:42,800
topics and framing was not in
any of them.

613
00:29:43,160 --> 00:29:46,720
So it was really just a shocker
and that's why it is sort of.

614
00:29:47,120 --> 00:29:48,440
Awful.
You know what just crossed my

615
00:29:48,440 --> 00:29:51,480
mind?
Oh my gosh, silicosis.

616
00:29:51,880 --> 00:29:57,200
And if you inhale clay dust, you
can get silicosis and die.

617
00:29:58,000 --> 00:30:02,840
And it's when you inhale clay
dust or dust of some sort like

618
00:30:02,840 --> 00:30:04,440
cement dust.
When I.

619
00:30:04,880 --> 00:30:05,960
Understand.
Cement dust, Yeah.

620
00:30:06,400 --> 00:30:10,080
Yeah, yeah.
And I remember in high school,

621
00:30:10,400 --> 00:30:13,400
this guy, there's like, AI think
somebody dropped a pot on the

622
00:30:13,400 --> 00:30:16,600
ground or something, and then
it, like broke into a bunch of

623
00:30:16,600 --> 00:30:19,120
different pieces.
But it wasn't like, I don't

624
00:30:19,120 --> 00:30:20,400
know.
It wasn't, it didn't go through

625
00:30:20,400 --> 00:30:23,480
the firing process yet or
something, but it was just dried

626
00:30:23,480 --> 00:30:25,600
out and cracked.
And then he snorted a line of

627
00:30:25,600 --> 00:30:28,640
clay in front of the teacher and
she was not happy.

628
00:30:28,720 --> 00:30:30,880
And she said you can get
silicosis and die from that.

629
00:30:32,720 --> 00:30:35,240
I thought that was hilarious.
I guess if you were to snort a

630
00:30:35,240 --> 00:30:38,120
bunch of lines, but I mean the
whole idea that I, I worked in

631
00:30:38,120 --> 00:30:43,440
concrete for a couple years and
there was, there was a constant

632
00:30:43,440 --> 00:30:48,320
cloud of dust, you know, So you
know, when you, when you, once

633
00:30:48,320 --> 00:30:51,480
you, when you do poured walls
and then you RIP the panels off.

634
00:30:53,120 --> 00:30:57,120
Now the walls are oiled, but
there's, there's a residue or a

635
00:30:57,120 --> 00:31:00,080
dust that falls around, you
know, there's all that stuff.

636
00:31:00,080 --> 00:31:02,680
And when you're taking the pins
and wedges out of the out of the

637
00:31:02,680 --> 00:31:07,560
aluminum panels, there's, you
know, concrete gets around them

638
00:31:07,560 --> 00:31:10,800
and there's, you smash it and
there's always everywhere and

639
00:31:10,800 --> 00:31:14,640
you're always breaking up bits
of pieces and, and you're

640
00:31:14,720 --> 00:31:17,520
jackhammering pieces and you're
not wearing a mask.

641
00:31:17,520 --> 00:31:20,720
Nobody wore a mask and nobody
even wore headphones or ear.

642
00:31:20,720 --> 00:31:24,160
Ear.
Only pushing that that's

643
00:31:24,160 --> 00:31:25,600
ridiculous.
That was the hole.

644
00:31:26,600 --> 00:31:28,720
Well that was like that was a
construction mantra.

645
00:31:28,720 --> 00:31:32,520
I I remember that and we you.
Know yeah the same thing when we

646
00:31:32,520 --> 00:31:36,960
moved to the wheel portion of
ceramics this I remember this

647
00:31:36,960 --> 00:31:40,400
one kid would be trying to make
a bowl and kids would throw

648
00:31:40,400 --> 00:31:43,240
balls of clay from across the
room when he almost completed

649
00:31:43,240 --> 00:31:45,920
the bowl and he was like taking
the wire to cut it off the thing

650
00:31:45,920 --> 00:31:48,960
off the wheel and just.
Destroy the ball every time.

651
00:31:52,440 --> 00:31:55,000
I don't think I've never made a
bowl the whole semester.

652
00:31:55,000 --> 00:31:57,680
The teacher, you're horrible.
No, the teacher was mad at me

653
00:31:57,680 --> 00:32:00,560
too because I never made a bowl.
And I was like, do you not see

654
00:32:00,560 --> 00:32:03,280
what happens?
Every day for the past six

655
00:32:03,280 --> 00:32:08,160
months in this class, I make a
bowl and then she they throw the

656
00:32:08,160 --> 00:32:10,320
balls of clay from across the
room, destroy the bowl on the

657
00:32:10,320 --> 00:32:13,360
wheel and never made anything.
Because it was always destroyed

658
00:32:13,360 --> 00:32:15,280
and.
Then she just thought I was too

659
00:32:15,280 --> 00:32:19,520
stupid to make a bowl I guess.
Or just too, too inherently

660
00:32:19,520 --> 00:32:23,640
terrible at ceramics that she
just gave me somebody else's

661
00:32:23,640 --> 00:32:24,880
bowl.
And then somebody said that's

662
00:32:24,880 --> 00:32:26,760
that's my bowl.
And I said, yeah, the teacher

663
00:32:26,760 --> 00:32:27,880
gave it to me.
He's like, can I have a bag?

664
00:32:27,880 --> 00:32:28,840
And I'm like, yeah, you can I
have a bag.

665
00:32:28,880 --> 00:32:30,680
It was interesting.
Yeah.

666
00:32:31,720 --> 00:32:32,840
It was such an interesting.
Really.

667
00:32:33,800 --> 00:32:36,320
Yeah, that's what happens.
I always thought it was you were

668
00:32:36,320 --> 00:32:39,000
too stupid to make it so.
I'm really stupid, I'm not going

669
00:32:39,000 --> 00:32:41,000
to lie, but what is, what is on
your hat?

670
00:32:41,000 --> 00:32:43,920
What does that say?
So it seems like Bond shot.

671
00:32:44,560 --> 00:32:45,960
It's Beaver Creek.
Beaver Creek.

672
00:32:45,960 --> 00:32:47,400
Yeah.
I got to wear this now.

673
00:32:47,400 --> 00:32:51,040
I got that whole head cancer
thing, you know the pre cancer.

674
00:32:51,040 --> 00:32:52,640
You do.
I've seen that thing on the top

675
00:32:52,640 --> 00:32:53,520
of your head.
It's not good.

676
00:32:53,800 --> 00:32:55,680
So I got to put, so I got to
wear a hat.

677
00:32:55,680 --> 00:32:58,360
They told me to wear a hat and
put some stuff on it and all the

678
00:32:58,360 --> 00:33:00,560
stuff and it'll go away.
And it's not real.

679
00:33:00,560 --> 00:33:04,440
It's it's, it's doctor stuff.
So no big deal.

680
00:33:04,600 --> 00:33:06,840
I don't know, they call it
practicing medicine for a

681
00:33:06,840 --> 00:33:11,520
reason, but yeah, I've been.
When I moved here, I felt my

682
00:33:11,520 --> 00:33:14,520
scalp burning all the time.
Yeah, I felt it burning because

683
00:33:14,520 --> 00:33:15,440
I don't think.
Wear a hat.

684
00:33:15,440 --> 00:33:16,800
The top here has wear a hat used
to the.

685
00:33:16,800 --> 00:33:18,240
Sun.
Yeah.

686
00:33:18,640 --> 00:33:20,680
Well, you gave me the gift of
having thin hair.

687
00:33:20,840 --> 00:33:23,000
Same with Granddad, who's dead
and.

688
00:33:23,240 --> 00:33:24,760
No, I think he gave it all to
you, man.

689
00:33:24,760 --> 00:33:26,040
He he beat you.
Really.

690
00:33:26,040 --> 00:33:26,560
Bad.
Yeah.

691
00:33:26,560 --> 00:33:28,240
He beat me up genetically with
that, yeah.

692
00:33:28,640 --> 00:33:30,400
Yeah, well that.
Kind of ran it.

693
00:33:31,120 --> 00:33:35,600
Kind of ran half in their family
and then not weird.

694
00:33:35,680 --> 00:33:36,280
Right.
Having.

695
00:33:36,600 --> 00:33:38,800
Yeah, I think so, because half
the brothers have it, half of

696
00:33:38,800 --> 00:33:40,640
them don't.
Yeah, I think when.

697
00:33:40,640 --> 00:33:42,840
You think about when I think
about framing, I just look at

698
00:33:42,880 --> 00:33:46,200
your head right now and I look,
do you see yourself in the

699
00:33:46,200 --> 00:33:49,360
reflection?
Yeah, right above your head is

700
00:33:49,360 --> 00:33:52,240
what, Squidward?
And he's looking through a

701
00:33:52,240 --> 00:33:54,760
window frame.
It looks like he's looking

702
00:33:54,760 --> 00:33:56,680
through the wall.
Yeah, it looks.

703
00:33:56,680 --> 00:33:59,320
Like he's like looking in from
the outside wall and that's like

704
00:33:59,320 --> 00:34:01,040
a window frame.
That's what I was saying.

705
00:34:01,640 --> 00:34:03,160
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Well, that's the point of the

706
00:34:03,600 --> 00:34:06,160
the tapestry is if you look at
it, if you get it tight enough

707
00:34:06,160 --> 00:34:10,520
on the wall or taut enough on
the wall that it it gets, it

708
00:34:10,560 --> 00:34:12,120
appears that it's coming through
the wall, which I.

709
00:34:12,120 --> 00:34:15,440
Think how do you teach tapestry?
How do you teach tapestry?

710
00:34:15,440 --> 00:34:17,480
Or get it tight enough you need
nails.

711
00:34:17,880 --> 00:34:20,480
You said you taught it.
You're funny, you're a funny

712
00:34:20,480 --> 00:34:26,280
guy.
But I digest here and so head

713
00:34:26,280 --> 00:34:27,679
cancer.
How's that going?

714
00:34:29,159 --> 00:34:31,040
Oh, that has nothing to do with
the.

715
00:34:31,199 --> 00:34:33,280
What do you call those things?
Do you hang on the wall?

716
00:34:33,560 --> 00:34:35,120
Oh, OK, so you don't want to
talk?

717
00:34:35,120 --> 00:34:39,600
About that France, No, no, it's
just like it's, it's I think

718
00:34:39,600 --> 00:34:43,199
it's a very common thing that is
you get older, that you get

719
00:34:43,199 --> 00:34:47,800
these spots, age spots, whatever
and they're moles or whatever

720
00:34:47,800 --> 00:34:50,159
and they start to grow.
And if they start to grow, that

721
00:34:50,159 --> 00:34:54,960
means that that you could at
some point possibly develop skin

722
00:34:54,960 --> 00:34:57,640
cancer.
And that's why, oh, that's why

723
00:34:57,640 --> 00:35:00,040
they call it free.
Which I mean, in reality,

724
00:35:00,600 --> 00:35:03,160
everything's precancer that
doesn't have it right.

725
00:35:03,560 --> 00:35:06,560
Yeah, I mean, hey, exactly.
This, this cup.

726
00:35:07,240 --> 00:35:13,400
This cup is precancerous.
OK, There's probably more things

727
00:35:13,400 --> 00:35:17,080
that go into calling it that
than what it is.

728
00:35:17,480 --> 00:35:19,960
Saying it's precancerous means
that at some point, inevitably,

729
00:35:19,960 --> 00:35:23,600
it will become that if you don't
do anything with it.

730
00:35:24,320 --> 00:35:26,520
Exactly.
You get scraped off your face.

731
00:35:26,560 --> 00:35:28,600
All that means is like do
something.

732
00:35:28,600 --> 00:35:31,440
So you do something and you
don't have to do a lot to make

733
00:35:31,440 --> 00:35:33,160
it not happen.
And you don't have to like

734
00:35:33,440 --> 00:35:37,880
people will go on and on and
worry about, you know, oh, oh, I

735
00:35:37,880 --> 00:35:38,960
have this and that and the
other.

736
00:35:38,960 --> 00:35:42,960
And it's like I, I just, I don't
have that many years left in my

737
00:35:42,960 --> 00:35:45,920
life to focus on stuff that
might happen.

738
00:35:47,000 --> 00:35:49,680
I agree.
Don't take, don't take the small

739
00:35:49,680 --> 00:35:52,440
thing or the big thing slightly
or something like that.

740
00:35:52,840 --> 00:35:54,800
Yeah, yeah.
You know what I read there

741
00:35:54,800 --> 00:35:57,240
though, in Mongolia, I read
Treasure Island.

742
00:35:58,040 --> 00:35:59,160
Really.
I read that book.

743
00:35:59,520 --> 00:36:02,120
Good book.
I think it's an interesting

744
00:36:02,120 --> 00:36:04,400
choice to be a Mongolian read
about Treasure Island.

745
00:36:04,400 --> 00:36:08,360
Well, I came up with an idea
since the studios are wasting

746
00:36:08,360 --> 00:36:10,160
hundreds of millions of dollars
on movies.

747
00:36:10,400 --> 00:36:13,160
You go to Mongolia, you build an
ocean, and then you make a

748
00:36:13,160 --> 00:36:15,440
pirate movie in Mongolian in the
landlocked country.

749
00:36:15,560 --> 00:36:22,240
What do you think about that?
It's not the stupidest thing

750
00:36:22,240 --> 00:36:24,600
I've heard.
Right, you can make the frame.

751
00:36:24,600 --> 00:36:27,000
You could frame there we go, the
ocean.

752
00:36:27,240 --> 00:36:30,240
You could frame the ocean and
there make a big giant.

753
00:36:30,240 --> 00:36:32,120
So who would you hire?
Would you hire that guy that did

754
00:36:32,120 --> 00:36:35,440
the bamboo frame to frame it?
Either that guy or, you know,

755
00:36:35,440 --> 00:36:38,200
what I was thinking too, is
Michael Fassbender, but he plays

756
00:36:38,200 --> 00:36:41,120
30 different characters.
And then there's like Robert

757
00:36:41,120 --> 00:36:42,640
Downey Junior, who plays one
character.

758
00:36:42,960 --> 00:36:45,000
So it's say it's like a pirate
ship, right?

759
00:36:45,000 --> 00:36:47,320
Michael Fassbender is every
pirate on the ship.

760
00:36:47,880 --> 00:36:51,040
And then who is he?
He's Assassin's Creed.

761
00:36:52,120 --> 00:36:56,280
He is Prometheus.
He is that movie that just came

762
00:36:56,280 --> 00:36:58,800
out.
The killer he is that didn't

763
00:36:58,800 --> 00:37:00,440
just come out.
That came out like a year ago.

764
00:37:02,320 --> 00:37:04,840
I think he just did something
else like the black suitcase or

765
00:37:04,840 --> 00:37:06,720
something like that.
Yeah, yeah.

766
00:37:07,360 --> 00:37:09,720
But I think.
He does a lot of murder flicks.

767
00:37:12,720 --> 00:37:15,760
Would you consider the prequel
to Alien a murder flick?

768
00:37:15,760 --> 00:37:17,040
I don't know.
I think it's sci-fi, yeah.

769
00:37:18,240 --> 00:37:20,640
Sci-fi killer All of.
That I liked the prequels.

770
00:37:20,640 --> 00:37:22,240
People said they were bad.
I liked them.

771
00:37:22,440 --> 00:37:23,520
That was the first rated R
movie.

772
00:37:23,520 --> 00:37:24,360
Ever.
I didn't see them.

773
00:37:26,160 --> 00:37:26,520
They were.
Good.

774
00:37:26,520 --> 00:37:32,040
I mean, I did the original 1 and
that was really good and I think

775
00:37:32,040 --> 00:37:35,400
I've watched pieces of the other
ones, but it's like I don't

776
00:37:35,400 --> 00:37:37,920
really.
I don't get a rise out of sci-fi

777
00:37:37,920 --> 00:37:41,040
horror is what I look at it.
Well, if you think about it too,

778
00:37:41,040 --> 00:37:43,960
Alien really framed the whole
sci-fi horror genre.

779
00:37:44,600 --> 00:37:46,960
I think that it really did what
Ridley Scott did.

780
00:37:46,960 --> 00:37:48,600
Is that Ridley Scott?
Alien?

781
00:37:48,960 --> 00:37:49,720
Yeah.
Yeah, right.

782
00:37:49,720 --> 00:37:51,680
OK quote.
Anyway to look it up, I need to

783
00:37:51,680 --> 00:37:52,960
watch the duelist.
Apparently.

784
00:37:52,960 --> 00:37:54,760
That's really good.
Never saw that duelist.

785
00:37:54,920 --> 00:38:01,360
Yeah, that's Ridley Scott's
first feature film, 198070

786
00:38:01,360 --> 00:38:03,240
something.
That's not is that with John

787
00:38:03,240 --> 00:38:06,640
Wayne.
No, no, this was with two other

788
00:38:06,640 --> 00:38:09,160
guys and they were sword
fighters.

789
00:38:10,360 --> 00:38:12,680
OK, because the one I'm talking
about is.

790
00:38:12,800 --> 00:38:17,400
This is not a Western.
John Wayne was It was the last

791
00:38:17,400 --> 00:38:21,640
movie he made and he had cancer.
1977.

792
00:38:22,720 --> 00:38:24,240
What was the one that John Wayne
did?

793
00:38:24,600 --> 00:38:26,720
This is Ridley Scott.
Oh, the duel.

794
00:38:26,720 --> 00:38:28,240
Wait, no.
Adapted from the duel The

795
00:38:28,240 --> 00:38:33,480
Duelists.
And this is Harry or Harvey

796
00:38:33,480 --> 00:38:39,040
Keitel and Keith Carradine.
What's his name looks?

797
00:38:39,120 --> 00:38:43,000
Really good.
John Wayne.

798
00:38:44,240 --> 00:38:47,800
Such an interesting movie.
What is Harvey Keitel doing

799
00:38:47,800 --> 00:38:50,800
these days?
I don't know.

800
00:38:50,920 --> 00:38:53,720
He's old.
Yeah, how old?

801
00:38:53,760 --> 00:38:56,520
86 His shootist.
Wow.

802
00:38:56,760 --> 00:38:58,640
That's what it was, not the
duelist.

803
00:38:58,640 --> 00:38:59,720
That's the one I was thinking
of.

804
00:38:59,800 --> 00:39:03,680
Sounds like a he did and you
know when he did it 76 and you

805
00:39:03,680 --> 00:39:06,040
said what's his name said?
No, that's funny.

806
00:39:06,280 --> 00:39:08,320
That's funny.
It's where he's an aging, he's

807
00:39:08,360 --> 00:39:10,240
played an aging dying gun
fighter.

808
00:39:11,200 --> 00:39:13,240
And the final scene is him
shooting everybody up.

809
00:39:13,240 --> 00:39:17,080
And it was really kind of wild
because he had he, he sees Jimmy

810
00:39:17,080 --> 00:39:18,880
Stewart.
Jimmy Stewart makes fun of how

811
00:39:18,880 --> 00:39:22,160
he's going to die and says that,
you know, and he gives them to

812
00:39:22,160 --> 00:39:24,080
Lauden.
And that's the first time I

813
00:39:24,080 --> 00:39:26,080
heard of the words to Lauden and
said, what's that?

814
00:39:26,080 --> 00:39:29,480
It's an opium derivative and
I've had a lot and I've had it

815
00:39:29,480 --> 00:39:31,800
shot in my spine when I had
problems and it was like.

816
00:39:32,080 --> 00:39:34,240
They put it into your spine.
Probably not.

817
00:39:35,080 --> 00:39:37,440
And your vein.
No, they gave, they were, they

818
00:39:37,440 --> 00:39:39,600
were giving me the drip and they
gave me three shots and it

819
00:39:39,600 --> 00:39:42,320
didn't make any difference.
And then it was like, and then I

820
00:39:42,440 --> 00:39:45,320
was still jumping off the table
and they're like, it's like you

821
00:39:45,320 --> 00:39:47,600
got any more and they're like,
well, no, we'll kill you if we

822
00:39:47,600 --> 00:39:48,920
do.
That's upsetting.

823
00:39:50,880 --> 00:39:51,800
OK, what are we?
What are you?

824
00:39:51,800 --> 00:39:54,360
What are you going to do now?
We're going to send you home.

825
00:39:54,880 --> 00:39:56,760
We're going to send you out.
Yeah, we're going to itemize

826
00:39:56,840 --> 00:39:57,920
the.
We're not going to itemize these

827
00:39:57,920 --> 00:40:00,080
receipts.
And what we're going to bill you

828
00:40:00,080 --> 00:40:02,560
for is $40,000.
No, it was.

829
00:40:02,640 --> 00:40:03,240
It was.
We're in the.

830
00:40:03,240 --> 00:40:05,080
Hospital.
It was all afternoon.

831
00:40:05,160 --> 00:40:09,000
It was around 9800.
Oh, only that's kind of

832
00:40:09,000 --> 00:40:10,680
shocking.
And, and, and they did

833
00:40:10,680 --> 00:40:14,320
absolutely nothing and they gave
me multiple shots of the law and

834
00:40:14,320 --> 00:40:16,480
then they said to get all.
And then they said they're going

835
00:40:16,480 --> 00:40:20,800
to, they're going to release me.
And I just turned and got up off

836
00:40:20,800 --> 00:40:23,840
the table and they're like, you
can't you, you shouldn't be able

837
00:40:23,840 --> 00:40:25,840
to what?
And then it was like, what?

838
00:40:26,440 --> 00:40:31,560
I was fine.
But the man in the car, Zach,

839
00:40:31,560 --> 00:40:34,680
when he was nine years old, saw
you screaming.

840
00:40:34,680 --> 00:40:35,840
I remember that.
You remember that?

841
00:40:35,840 --> 00:40:36,480
Oh.
Yeah, this is the.

842
00:40:36,560 --> 00:40:38,800
That's the thing I'm talking.
About is that pre or post?

843
00:40:38,840 --> 00:40:40,960
Oh, that's probably pre.
I pre saw you go to the

844
00:40:40,960 --> 00:40:43,040
hospital.
You saw me before I went to the

845
00:40:43,040 --> 00:40:46,600
hospital, you just after I was
at the hospital for hours, you

846
00:40:46,600 --> 00:40:49,480
know, doing my screaming thing.
That was great.

847
00:40:49,640 --> 00:40:52,200
Framing the screaming.
I don't think I've ever seen so

848
00:40:52,200 --> 00:40:55,440
many that much pain in my life.
I don't think I, well, I mean,

849
00:40:56,200 --> 00:40:58,760
I.
Heard them when they called in

850
00:40:59,360 --> 00:41:03,760
as they have a they have a gauge
of where you are in pain right?

851
00:41:04,720 --> 00:41:11,200
And the firefighter guy or a
paramedic goes 10 out of 10, 10

852
00:41:11,400 --> 00:41:14,640
out of 10, because I am like
ready to pass out because I'm

853
00:41:14,840 --> 00:41:17,320
screaming.
And he goes and he's remember

854
00:41:17,320 --> 00:41:20,040
how he talked to me.
Slow you're breathing down, Slow

855
00:41:20,120 --> 00:41:22,600
you're breathing.
He was, he was like, he was

856
00:41:22,600 --> 00:41:25,360
actually really good at his job.
Well, I remember they couldn't

857
00:41:25,360 --> 00:41:28,200
move you because every time they
moved you, you would scream.

858
00:41:28,240 --> 00:41:32,280
Did they drop you on the ground?
On the on the on the stairwell,

859
00:41:32,280 --> 00:41:33,680
yeah, but.
Yeah, that's what I thought.

860
00:41:33,680 --> 00:41:36,600
Whatever.
But I went to when I went to my

861
00:41:36,600 --> 00:41:38,560
doctor and I said, So what,
what?

862
00:41:38,560 --> 00:41:42,400
What does all that mean?
And he goes, well, a gunshot

863
00:41:42,400 --> 00:41:48,760
wound is 6.
I'm like, oh, and he said you

864
00:41:48,760 --> 00:41:51,800
had 10 out of 10.
And he said, I heard you when

865
00:41:51,800 --> 00:41:54,720
you called.
And I didn't answer the phone,

866
00:41:54,720 --> 00:41:56,320
but I heard you through the
phone.

867
00:41:56,600 --> 00:41:59,360
Oh my God.
He said.

868
00:41:59,360 --> 00:42:02,320
I was in the room when they
picked up the phone and I heard

869
00:42:02,320 --> 00:42:04,520
you on the phone.
Wow.

870
00:42:05,040 --> 00:42:06,320
And he's.
Like what do you think that was

871
00:42:06,320 --> 00:42:09,840
from?
Well, it was the IT was the bone

872
00:42:11,760 --> 00:42:15,920
pushing into my spine.
My the, the, the the central

873
00:42:15,920 --> 00:42:17,520
nervous system of your whole
body.

874
00:42:17,600 --> 00:42:20,800
But that seems.
Like you don't just do that.

875
00:42:20,800 --> 00:42:22,480
Like that doesn't just happen
from aging.

876
00:42:22,600 --> 00:42:25,720
Like that happens from.
Well, I guess it flaked off or,

877
00:42:25,800 --> 00:42:27,960
you know, I'm falling apart or
something like that.

878
00:42:27,960 --> 00:42:31,320
But you were like 40 something
or were you 50?

879
00:42:31,960 --> 00:42:34,240
I was in my 50s, yeah.
Well, I mean, you were 50

880
00:42:34,240 --> 00:42:36,440
something.
Yeah, you would think.

881
00:42:36,440 --> 00:42:38,200
Do you ever remember what it was
from?

882
00:42:39,560 --> 00:42:41,240
They never had any idea they.
They ended.

883
00:42:41,240 --> 00:42:44,560
Up doing back surgery and they
cleaned it out and that was it

884
00:42:44,840 --> 00:42:47,560
that that's what it ultimately
that's what ultimately fixed it

885
00:42:47,560 --> 00:42:48,720
so to.
Speak and that just seems so

886
00:42:48,720 --> 00:42:51,360
random that you you think that
there's a reason why.

887
00:42:51,400 --> 00:42:53,840
They call it, they call it a
floating fragment and it was a

888
00:42:53,840 --> 00:42:58,240
just a piece of the inside of
your spinal, which is bone

889
00:42:58,880 --> 00:43:01,080
breaks off, floats in the spinal
fluid.

890
00:43:01,440 --> 00:43:05,240
And periodically you have your,
you know, you have your, your

891
00:43:05,560 --> 00:43:07,640
spine going down and in the
middle of your spine is all the

892
00:43:07,640 --> 00:43:10,520
nerves of your body.
So each time it pokes into

893
00:43:10,520 --> 00:43:16,240
there, it's like, I can't really
describe it because it's, it's

894
00:43:16,240 --> 00:43:21,360
sort of like you cannot, there's
certain, like I've had lots of

895
00:43:21,360 --> 00:43:25,720
pain that, that, you know, if
you hit your finger with a, a

896
00:43:25,720 --> 00:43:28,440
hammer or something like that,
it hurts and you scream and all

897
00:43:28,440 --> 00:43:33,400
that.
But this is so it's, it's total

898
00:43:33,400 --> 00:43:35,800
body.
It it wasn't.

899
00:43:36,240 --> 00:43:40,240
I mean, I have like finger hit.
I have like I hit, I have like

900
00:43:40,240 --> 00:43:42,200
hit me in the head with a
baseball.

901
00:43:42,200 --> 00:43:43,600
I've been hitting the head with
a bat.

902
00:43:43,840 --> 00:43:46,920
I've been hitting the shoulder
with a bat in the arm.

903
00:43:47,160 --> 00:43:49,920
I've broken my ankle.
I've been, I've ever been

904
00:43:49,920 --> 00:43:52,880
stabbed, well, not really deeply
stabbed, but just lightly

905
00:43:52,880 --> 00:43:55,200
stabbed.
I I've been I've all sorts of

906
00:43:55,200 --> 00:43:58,960
little things that are many
times and and up until that

907
00:43:58,960 --> 00:44:02,400
point, the most worst thing I
ever had done was I had a.

908
00:44:02,400 --> 00:44:06,600
Weird thing.
The index finger, I had a, a

909
00:44:07,120 --> 00:44:13,680
splinter go all the way up to
the, the quick and I was 8 years

910
00:44:13,680 --> 00:44:19,160
old and they decided to snip.
They, they either had to put me

911
00:44:19,160 --> 00:44:21,600
to sleep to take it out, which
then they said they didn't have

912
00:44:21,600 --> 00:44:25,480
anything that could deaden my
arm or they had to cut.

913
00:44:26,600 --> 00:44:29,360
What was it?
They had to put me to sleep or

914
00:44:29,360 --> 00:44:31,400
they could just do it all.
Not sure out.

915
00:44:31,880 --> 00:44:34,800
And, and I was like, I don't, I
don't know whatever you think.

916
00:44:34,800 --> 00:44:37,160
And so they're like, well, you
know, operating room in the

917
00:44:37,160 --> 00:44:39,120
whole canine yards.
And my mom didn't have the money

918
00:44:39,120 --> 00:44:40,960
for that kind of stuff because
it would have been more.

919
00:44:41,280 --> 00:44:46,000
So I sat on this nurse's lap and
another nurse sat on her and

920
00:44:46,000 --> 00:44:48,320
they held my and then they had
somebody hold my arm.

921
00:44:48,560 --> 00:44:52,600
And then the doctor held my
finger and he would snip and I

922
00:44:52,600 --> 00:44:54,360
would scream.
He would snip and I would

923
00:44:54,360 --> 00:44:55,720
scream.
He would snip and I would

924
00:44:55,720 --> 00:44:57,440
scream.
And he literally cut my

925
00:44:57,440 --> 00:45:02,840
fingernail off 1 snip at a time
right down the middle, over to

926
00:45:02,840 --> 00:45:05,920
the side.
And he removed it and he raked

927
00:45:06,600 --> 00:45:10,480
the what was behind the
fingernail with a a thing to get

928
00:45:10,560 --> 00:45:13,000
because it wouldn't release the.
Cutter wouldn't release.

929
00:45:13,160 --> 00:45:18,480
Because it actually was in it.
So that was up until that

930
00:45:18,480 --> 00:45:21,440
fragment, the most worst thing
I'd ever felt.

931
00:45:22,560 --> 00:45:25,360
But even that, well, that's.
The idea that.

932
00:45:25,360 --> 00:45:27,120
Was that?
That was very crazy.

933
00:45:28,400 --> 00:45:30,520
People slammed my finger in a
door.

934
00:45:31,240 --> 00:45:33,960
And then do you remember the
thing that heats up to about

935
00:45:33,960 --> 00:45:36,640
1000�� and they touch your
fingernail and then it drills

936
00:45:36,640 --> 00:45:39,120
the hole straight through and
then it like you don't feel it

937
00:45:39,120 --> 00:45:40,280
at all, 'cause it's on your
fingernail?

938
00:45:40,800 --> 00:45:42,280
Yeah, you, you really could have
used that.

939
00:45:42,280 --> 00:45:43,720
Then it's like heat up a needle.
Yeah.

940
00:45:43,880 --> 00:45:45,400
It would have been great.
That would have been that would

941
00:45:45,400 --> 00:45:46,160
have been that.
I'm surprised.

942
00:45:46,160 --> 00:45:47,120
They didn't do something like
that.

943
00:45:47,120 --> 00:45:49,880
That seems very like, well, this
is like 6D.

944
00:45:50,000 --> 00:45:55,840
Seven in Alexandria Hospital it
it was like an emergency because

945
00:45:55,840 --> 00:45:58,760
it you know, and nobody could do
anything with it because it was

946
00:45:58,760 --> 00:46:01,800
like it was in a place that a
little kids finger, you know,

947
00:46:01,800 --> 00:46:04,000
what are you going?
To do Yeah, they.

948
00:46:04,000 --> 00:46:06,320
Didn't you know, they didn't
have that kind of experience?

949
00:46:06,320 --> 00:46:12,040
And Oh my gosh, that it was it
was A and I, I'd have a, you

950
00:46:12,040 --> 00:46:15,600
know, nothing hurt like that.
Nothing.

951
00:46:15,760 --> 00:46:18,720
I mean, I kicked those nurses
bruised.

952
00:46:18,960 --> 00:46:22,480
I didn't do it on purpose.
I just my feet were were just

953
00:46:22,760 --> 00:46:26,720
flapping like this back and
forth and I had a square leather

954
00:46:26,720 --> 00:46:30,040
shoes on at that point, but
there were bruises on the lady

955
00:46:30,040 --> 00:46:32,400
behind me.
The other they just looked at me

956
00:46:32,400 --> 00:46:37,320
with like looks of horror.
That's I freaked them out, you

957
00:46:37,320 --> 00:46:41,840
know, because it was like I and
I was I, I, I screamed so much I

958
00:46:41,840 --> 00:46:46,440
couldn't cry.
And then and then when it ended,

959
00:46:46,840 --> 00:46:50,400
it was like within 5 minutes.
It didn't hurt.

960
00:46:51,440 --> 00:46:52,520
Bandage it up, go home.
Nothing.

961
00:46:52,520 --> 00:46:54,520
I don't think nothing, no big
deal.

962
00:46:55,000 --> 00:46:56,400
Let it grow back.
Never a problem.

963
00:46:56,800 --> 00:46:58,880
I never, I never had it not
stick or anything like that.

964
00:46:58,880 --> 00:47:03,120
No problem.
Now the back, the back was

965
00:47:03,320 --> 00:47:09,040
literally years it.
It made my whole body jump that

966
00:47:09,040 --> 00:47:10,600
fragment just that well I
remember.

967
00:47:10,600 --> 00:47:13,280
Seeing you just driving for
years and I think you had

968
00:47:13,280 --> 00:47:16,040
sciatica.
I think sciatica was something

969
00:47:16,040 --> 00:47:19,360
that was a after kind of deal
for you for a while or.

970
00:47:19,360 --> 00:47:22,360
Whatever the little ball is that
hardens up in the left hand

971
00:47:22,360 --> 00:47:23,960
side.
Is that sciatica?

972
00:47:23,960 --> 00:47:25,680
Because it runs down your leg,
right?

973
00:47:26,280 --> 00:47:27,560
Yeah.
That's sciatica.

974
00:47:27,640 --> 00:47:29,760
Yeah, that's sciatica.
Because I get that when I'm on a

975
00:47:29,760 --> 00:47:35,240
plane, if I sit for a long time
down my left leg from my from my

976
00:47:35,920 --> 00:47:39,200
left cheek basically goes down
to my ankle.

977
00:47:39,560 --> 00:47:43,320
And if I don't stand up and like
move it then it gets it hurts.

978
00:47:43,680 --> 00:47:46,920
Yeah, well, I wonder if it's
because we have, you know, I

979
00:47:46,920 --> 00:47:51,520
have like no ass, hamstrings,
all my stuff tight.

980
00:47:51,520 --> 00:47:53,440
Hamstrings I think is a big part
of it.

981
00:47:53,440 --> 00:47:55,880
Well, you knew that I'm tighter
than Wow.

982
00:47:56,080 --> 00:47:58,760
Yeah, I think tight hamstrings
is a big part of it, because

983
00:47:58,760 --> 00:48:00,120
then it's really activating
that.

984
00:48:00,120 --> 00:48:01,480
Do you think that's liquor
consumption?

985
00:48:02,320 --> 00:48:05,000
Well, I think the dehydration
that comes from alcohol

986
00:48:05,000 --> 00:48:07,240
consumption is not helpful to
your.

987
00:48:07,240 --> 00:48:09,880
Muscles 'cause I always.
Thought dehydrate your body a

988
00:48:09,880 --> 00:48:12,160
big.
Thing and I have my whole body

989
00:48:12,160 --> 00:48:16,000
is just nothing but lactic acid.
Yeah, no, the dehydrating.

990
00:48:16,040 --> 00:48:18,000
Life.
Is really, really bad.

991
00:48:18,000 --> 00:48:20,360
I would say so 'cause what is it
too?

992
00:48:20,360 --> 00:48:23,760
It's like alcohol stunts your
protein synthesis in your

993
00:48:23,760 --> 00:48:27,280
muscles, which is your ability
to create protein through ATP,

994
00:48:27,280 --> 00:48:30,560
right?
And then by 25% compared to

995
00:48:30,560 --> 00:48:33,480
normal protein production from
ATP.

996
00:48:33,520 --> 00:48:35,760
You're you really want making me
want to go to the liquor store

997
00:48:35,760 --> 00:48:37,320
right now.
Right, it helps.

998
00:48:37,640 --> 00:48:40,240
So how can we frame that?
How do we frame that?

999
00:48:40,240 --> 00:48:43,640
Drink a bunch of protein?
Drink a protein shake with a

1000
00:48:44,120 --> 00:48:45,680
tequila in it.
That's what I would say.

1001
00:48:45,960 --> 00:48:48,440
Tequila protein shake.
Why haven't they made that yet?

1002
00:48:48,560 --> 00:48:51,800
I don't know.
But on that note, I think we're

1003
00:48:51,840 --> 00:48:53,400
are we wrapped up here?
What are we at?

1004
00:48:53,600 --> 00:48:54,680
I don't know.
We could be.

1005
00:48:54,680 --> 00:48:57,840
We're at like 4849, almost 50
minutes.

1006
00:48:57,960 --> 00:48:59,720
That sounds like a good place to
stop.

1007
00:48:59,720 --> 00:49:01,240
Well.
Let's ask that question one more

1008
00:49:01,240 --> 00:49:02,400
time.
When you think about framing,

1009
00:49:02,400 --> 00:49:05,440
what I mean in summary, we
talked about in the beginning

1010
00:49:05,440 --> 00:49:07,040
about actually making the wooden
frame.

1011
00:49:07,040 --> 00:49:10,600
We talked about the, the, the
idea of framing different topics

1012
00:49:10,600 --> 00:49:12,400
and subjects and the way that
you frame it.

1013
00:49:14,080 --> 00:49:17,240
We, we can look at our little
presentation here and we have

1014
00:49:17,240 --> 00:49:22,040
the framings of our faces, but
are we leaving anything out

1015
00:49:22,640 --> 00:49:25,240
maybe framing houses?
We didn't, we didn't talk about

1016
00:49:25,240 --> 00:49:27,520
that.
I, I, I, I did work on framing a

1017
00:49:27,520 --> 00:49:32,160
house once, but that's, that's
another summer, that's another

1018
00:49:32,160 --> 00:49:34,480
construction job, but it was
actually an addition.

1019
00:49:34,480 --> 00:49:36,200
It wasn't a whole house.
And we did the outside.

1020
00:49:36,200 --> 00:49:40,960
It was really I am an incredible
carpenter's helper, but I can't

1021
00:49:40,960 --> 00:49:43,680
do anything.
You know, I I I would never

1022
00:49:43,680 --> 00:49:46,720
settle about to do it myself
because I need direction when it

1023
00:49:46,720 --> 00:49:49,280
comes to things like that are
that are built.

1024
00:49:49,920 --> 00:49:51,800
Measure twice, cut once.
That's what you.

1025
00:49:51,800 --> 00:49:53,320
Say, well, yeah, but everybody
says that.

1026
00:49:53,320 --> 00:49:56,960
But yeah, I always measure twice
and still cut it 1/2 an inch.

1027
00:49:56,960 --> 00:50:00,040
Cut 7 times.
Well, no, I always get, I get, I

1028
00:50:00,040 --> 00:50:04,840
get worried, so I add an eighth
of an inch every time because

1029
00:50:04,840 --> 00:50:07,400
I'm worried if I cut it too
short, it's no good.

1030
00:50:07,720 --> 00:50:10,000
So I cut it a little longer
because I feel like my

1031
00:50:10,000 --> 00:50:12,560
measurement's shitty.
And then I take it there and I

1032
00:50:12,560 --> 00:50:16,880
put it in and it's too tight and
it's too tight and it's too

1033
00:50:16,880 --> 00:50:18,680
tight.
And then I cut it because I get

1034
00:50:18,680 --> 00:50:21,680
frustrated because I go back the
third time and I cut like a foot

1035
00:50:21,680 --> 00:50:23,760
off the board and it's too
short.

1036
00:50:26,600 --> 00:50:32,680
And I, and I know I do this, but
I still do it because I'm like,

1037
00:50:32,680 --> 00:50:36,360
I want it to fit perfectly and
every so off, every so often it

1038
00:50:36,360 --> 00:50:39,240
does because I measured wrong
and me making a little long

1039
00:50:39,240 --> 00:50:42,400
makes it fit perfectly.
But, but most of the time I just

1040
00:50:42,400 --> 00:50:43,760
don't trust my measurement
skills.

1041
00:50:43,760 --> 00:50:46,560
So it's really kind of funny and
I go through that process like

1042
00:50:46,560 --> 00:50:48,280
all the time.
That's like, why is this so?

1043
00:50:48,720 --> 00:50:51,960
Why is it shorter?
I cut it three times.

1044
00:50:52,680 --> 00:50:55,360
Maybe that's the problem?
Maybe.

1045
00:50:55,480 --> 00:50:57,200
Maybe.
Yeah, yeah.

1046
00:50:58,040 --> 00:51:02,040
Well, as always, reckon
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1047
00:51:02,040 --> 00:51:08,080
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1048
00:51:08,080 --> 00:51:10,920
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1049
00:51:11,440 --> 00:51:12,000
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