Episode 108: Education

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Welcome back to another episode
of A Record of My Father.

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Today we're going to be talking
about education, how it took my

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dad nine years to get an
undergraduate degree and me, I

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think it took 5 or was it 4?
I don't really know.

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I don't really remember.
I think it took some kind of

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hiatus somewhere.
That's that's a sign of a good

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education when you can't
remember how long you went.

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Right.
I mean, I don't remember the

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first four years or points.
You know, there's just points

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and the, the, the crazy
drunkenness and all that kind of

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stuff like that, you know, but
it was, I mean, I was Community

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College.
Me as well.

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Me as well, but I.
Look at, So I guess one of the

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things I think about education
is like, where did it come from?

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Why, why did we, the Browns, my
mother and father's kids decide

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that we want to go to school?
We were in a blue collar

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neighborhood where it was sort
of like maybe 25% went to school

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and they would go to the
Community College, if that, you

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know, but they'd all get out and
get a job and they would work as

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a manager, a giant and you would
make a, you'd make a good

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living.
You could buy a house, have 3.7

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kids, you know, and, and, and
go, a lot of people could do

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that, you know.
So it, it was, it was seen as

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four years of or two years of
different.

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But my parents were weirdly
highly educated.

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My mother had a master's and, or
I don't know if she had a

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master's or not.
She, she went to William and

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Mary extended for something in
the horticulture.

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She had a degree from tech class
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to graduate in from the
horticulture area, which is a

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really interesting thing.
My dad had a degree from I know,

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I, I, it's really kind of fuzzy.
He had a master's and he had an

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undergrad.
He went to Boston College, he

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went to Harvard and he went to
Alabama.

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And I don't know what he got
from where.

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And he was working on his
doctorate and he was writing

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this stuff.
But I mean, he was like a, you

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know, 16th century English
history guy.

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So it's like, yeah, that's going
to go really, really far unless

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you want to teach 16th century
English history because that's

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what he was doing.
Is doctor it on?

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You're like.
What?

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What?
Well, that's so funny because I

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ended up being an English major.
I think that's the funniest

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part.
And I think that that's really

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funny that I ended up.
Shocker when it came to reading.

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I'm sorry.
Go ahead.

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No, Yeah, Yeah, He was a
photographic memory guy.

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I've never had the photographic
memory guy reading to me.

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It's something that just kind of
occurs in your subconscious, in

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your daily life.
You start doing things

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differently, right?
You start activating different

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synapses.
I think I.

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Think your nephew?
Well, would be your It's my

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mother's sister's son.
What would that be to whatever

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that is to you, great aunt,
uncle or something.

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He had a he went to Yale, a
doctor worked at NIH was like

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one of the number one people in
the world on HI on hepatitis,

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the AB CS of hepatitis.
He's like top two, top three

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spoke all over the world.
Dude like almost developed what

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turned out to be somewhat of a
cure, but it either kills you or

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cures you, which is, you know.
A lot of more like that.

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That's what they call it.
Hey, drink this medicine.

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Yeah, you did well.
We we didn't promise anything.

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Hey, drink this.
You're cured.

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Wow.
You get to live.

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You know, it's kind.
Of like during the Civil War

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when they said, well, we're just
going to cut your ankle off

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'cause you got shot in the foot,
we're just going to cut it off

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and good luck, Good luck.
Speaking of Civil War, you know

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what?
I watched the four hour

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director's cut of what was it,
Dances With Wolves.

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Yeah, you.
Feel like you're smarter than me

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now.
I feel like I really am coming

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into my white man nature now as
a an elderly 26 year old.

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I feel like you really kind of
come into yourself when you

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watch that Kevin Costner movie
paired with Mel Gibson's The

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Patriot.
No, I've actually never seen

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that.
I've never seen the Patriot, but

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I have seen Apocalypto.
I watched that the other day.

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Wow.
Yeah, I saw pieces of it and.

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That's amazing.
That's an amazing movie.

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That's that's the world
building, right?

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There, maybe I shouldn't have
been hammered so you know.

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That's a really good movie.
Yeah, Really, really good movie.

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We were talking about education.
So what is what?

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Let's let's run through our
formal education.

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High school graduated high
school.

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I think so, yeah.
I think I.

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Went to Community College, went
to Nova.

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I mean, I applied to regular
colleges and and I didn't have

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any, you know, when I graduated
high school, people had guidance

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counselors and they would go to
them and they would tell them

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how to apply to schools and get
grants and things like that.

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I didn't know that.
No one told me that I had to

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figure out on my own.
And this is to let you know

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before the Internet.
So you had to go somewhere and

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say, hey, how do you apply to a
school?

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And then you had to head up the
wherewithal to call the school

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and say, well, how do I need to
get an application?

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And then you would have to write
the school for an application.

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This application would come to
you and you'd fill it out.

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And I remember I only filled out
one.

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I filled out Mary Washington's
college because that's where my

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brothers went.
And that's where the scale was

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like 100 guys, 2700 girls,
what's not to like?

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And it was just a drunken party
for four years.

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So I was like that.
That's where I want to go.

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That'll just continue my life.
But I didn't get in.

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And I, and I remember I filled
out the application and, and

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when I and it came to the essay,
they wrote optional.

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And I never had any idea that
you really didn't.

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You if you didn't write an
essay, you you weren't getting

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in.
Yeah, that is not an optional

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essay for a lot of the people to
think it is, that is.

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I don't know why they would even
put that in there, but the

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thing.
Is is that if?

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I was, if I was like, I didn't
know.

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And that's what's so weird
because I think like the the

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coaching that you had.
Was.

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Off the charts and the coaching
that I had was 0.

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And I think like, I mean, even
in high school, your guidance

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counselor was helping people,
putting them into this way to

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file and supply to all the
schools.

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Oh yeah, it was the, the whole
Common App thing, 'cause that's

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kind of foreign to to people
that once you get on that

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website, you're like, what is
this?

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But it's really just a, a giant
application for all of the

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things.
And then I remember doing it

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again when I applied to UVA, and
it was funny 'cause I really

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didn't even need a counselor
then, 'cause I I just knew how

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to do the Common App from high
school.

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So I just redid it, basically.
That's cool, yeah.

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And then the whole thing too
was, well, what is it?

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The Yeah, well, that's the whole
thing is about institutions for

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colleges in the US if you have
like a 25, you could go anywhere

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you want really, 'cause they
really want you, their your

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money at the end of the day,
they don't care.

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They made it seem like this.
I think.

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That was thing that was
impossible to get into a college

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and I'm like no, like the 85% of
the colleges in the US, you can

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be Dumber than a box of rocks
and they they will let you in

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'cause you will pay them money
to.

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Let you.
So then that throws that goes to

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the things like, well, why go if
you're not going to?

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I mean, when you go to college,
I, I'm, I think that a lot of

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people think, oh, I mean it in
my era, we went to college to

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learn something, to get a job
and to get a job that would pay

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better than what I was currently
doing.

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I mean, that was when it came
right down to it.

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That was the nuts and bolts.
It didn't matter.

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I wasn't exploring myself.
I wasn't like trying to figure

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things out.
I in the beginning, but it was

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weird because when I went
through Nova, I, I actually, I,

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I took, I, I took this, I took
journalism first because I

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really like journalism.
But you know, being a journalist

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major and you're a freshman
doesn't mean anything because

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you're going to have to take
English, You're going to have to

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take, you're going to have to
take science, you're going to

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have to take math, You're going
to have to take all these

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different things. 2 levels of
this one level of foreign

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language 1.
You know, you had to take all

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that happy horseshit for the
first, you know, year and a half

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anyway.
So I was taking the electives

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and each time and then I would
take like a journalism course.

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And then that was the, the one
piece of advice that my father

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gave me was there are 8000 new
journalist jobs a year and

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there's 64,000 people graduating
with a journalist degree.

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How good are you?
And, and I was like, fuck that.

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And then and then, but we're,
but, but there are a lot of

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people being incarcerated And I
was, and I, and, and I really

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thought that was kind of cool
because I said, wow, man, can I

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imagine running a prison?
That would be neat.

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So I started taking correctional
counseling of all weird things.

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And also, I happen to be on
probation in high school and I

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got to know the system and I
didn't think that the system was

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really good.
And I thought that possibly, you

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know, you, there were things
that you could do to change it.

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I don't, you know, being being
wide eyed, bright eyed and bushy

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tailed to think that I could
change things to for the better

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because you know, I was on
probation for indefinite a

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period of time, which is a
little over 2 years, 2425

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months, which is just from 10th
grade, the almost graduating.

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I had to be in, I had to be in
my house at 10:00.

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I had to, I couldn't work
certain hours, I couldn't, I had

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to check in weekly.
I had to.

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And if I didn't check in, if I
didn't do any of these things,

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then all of a sudden it would
ramp up.

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There's one more step up.
But it was just, it was, you

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know, nobody.
Love Probation.

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I mean, I'm a fan, but at the
same time, what was I thinking?

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Well, a lot of times do you
think about current state of

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colleges in the US and the high
interest rates and what have

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you?
And it almost seems like it's

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going back to what it used to be
in the 1700s, where it was a

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break for men, but before they
went to work, there was kind of

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a nice break for rich men to, to
take, you know, a little

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relaxation period.
Well, you, you for me and, and,

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and the way I look at it, I
mean, I went to Community

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College for from 78 graduated
high school.

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I was in Community College that
fall and I was in Community

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College until, let me see, 83.
So what is that?

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Five years, 7879808182836 years,
5 1/2, something like that.

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And then 83, the fall of 83, I
went to Nova.

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I mean, no, not Nova.
I got accepted ODUI applied

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because somebody was going there
and I said I'm going to

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eventually I got to get a four
year degree and I went and got

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the four year degree when I
pulled the concrete story where

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I had to fire the guy that that
really set me off.

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And then I went and got my
advanced or regular college

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degree, which is in business.
And I focused on business

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probably the last year and a
half of Community College,

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taking business classes and
learning more about business,

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learning more about marketing,
learning more about things like

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that, because I think that that
that's how you'll make a living.

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And that's what, and it gave me
a really good groundwork and I

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went to Ode Dominion and it gave
me a really good, what do you

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call it?
It gave me like the four pillars

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of business, you know, marketing
foundation, a really good

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foundation because it, it, it
taught me a little about finance

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and numbers and accounting.
It taught me about marketing and

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sales.
It taught me about product.

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It taught me about management
and how to manage people and how

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to drive things and how to pull
the whole picture together to

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look at it to make it go
forward.

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You know, it didn't teach me
about strategy.

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I learned, I mean, I learned a
lot from people that I work with

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later on what they said.
And, and, and the one thing is,

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is that is whatever kind of a
person I am, I think I'm, I'm

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pretty, I'm pretty receptive to
something that you say.

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If you say something that's
better than what I think I'm

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doing now, then I'm that I'm
that I'm willing to try it.

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I will question you until I
believe you.

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So the people are like, don't be
frightened.

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When I question, it's like I'm
questioning because I'm like,

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hey, that sounds like a good
idea.

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What about?
Just think about this.

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Yeah, I did that, and this is
the answer.

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What about this?
Yeah, I'm like, well shit, I'm

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going to try that, you know?
Skepticism is is something that

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also comes from education, I
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Very, very, very heavy.
I mean, my, my parents were, you

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know, as I said, they were
probably the, they had told us

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from being little kids that we
would not be ignorant and that

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we would go to school.
Oh my God, I can't believe

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they're, you know, and they had
a, they had kind of a snobby

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view in the neighborhood they
lived in, which is kind of

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interesting that, you know, Hey,
I, I live in the same

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neighborhood and house that you
do, but I'm smarter than you and

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you're just like, well, I don't
know if that really works out

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that way that is.
Funny that it's it's an

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impoverished community and yet
the with their advanced degrees

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early.
But we're not dumbasses, right?

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And you are not dumb.
But you.

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But you don't.
When you're in it, you don't see

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it.
You don't, you don't, you know

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when you're in, when you're when
you're, when you're drowning,

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you're not looking at the woman
that's topless.

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You know what I mean?
You know, you're, you're trying

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to great analogy or something
like that.

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And it was.
The the LBJ thing that he said,

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it was also about low
socioeconomic communities and we

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were middle.
We were, I would say we were

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lower middle class.
I mean we.

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Lived in class.
We had food every we wouldn't

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know we had.
I shared bedrooms with both

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brothers until they moved out to
college.

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I always had, I always had a
roommate from growing up.

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I mean, originally I shared it
with my sister until that seemed

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to be weird.
You know she's getting boobs.

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You got to get the hell out of
that room, boy.

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But LBJ said something whatever
of if you teach a community

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racism, you can rob them blind
or something like that, and I

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thought that was really
interesting.

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And I think that I see a lot of
people fear education because

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they believe that people are
feeding ideas to your kids, to

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these people that are receptive
for ideas.

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And we were certainly when I
went to ultimen and when I went

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to Nova, I was absolutely
receptive to new things that

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were different than what I was
taught before.

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However, I was skeptical.
That was me as well.

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I questioned the institution the
entire time because during COVID

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they ramped up the tuition rate.
They made it more expensive at

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UVA while I was on zoom and.
They said we're going to teach

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you less.
We need building maintenance and

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I'm like building maintenance
for what?

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Like I don't, I don't really
understand this.

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I honestly got I'm a kind of a
harbinger of that university for

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that reason.
But they also started a brand

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new project where they tore down
the library for the next like 3

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years.
Which is the weirdest time in

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the world to do it.
And I was like, why would you,

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this is like 4 times more
difficult.

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You need like all those like
certifications of like testing

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or some of the PCRS after the
workers go home or whatever.

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And so why are you doing this?
This is crazy.

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And then, and then I graduated
and I was like whatever, OK,

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like I don't know, I did it.
I got the piece of paper that's

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worth $100,000 or whatever.
And then I was like, well, I

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made, made you guys happy.
So.

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But I also wanted to go there.
No, this was your, that was your

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choice.
You completely, 100%.

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I remember you came back from
Denver, you went to school at

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Nova and you're like, I'm going
to go and you told me that

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you're going to go to UVA in two
years.

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And I was just like.
I think like in a year, I think

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it was for.
A year, you said a year,

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something like that.
And I was just like, OK, and I

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mean you were very and I and I
was like, OK, encouraged, you

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got it.
You got to take a shot, you

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know, you got to apply, and the
fact that you applied didn't

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apply it anywhere else.
I will say that I feel a lot

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more intelligent that I went to
college.

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I feel like there's a certain
level of wanting to search for

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reading.
Reading specifically is actually

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changing life.
That's really changed my life.

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I don't think I would have read
nearly as much as I do now if it

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weren't.
For how many?

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How many books you read?
It's now.

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What month is it?
I don't know.

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It's 7.
It's July. 10.

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You've only read 10 this year.
Only 10.

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It's really low.
Wow, it's really low.

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This.
Year, I mean, you read about 30.

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How many did you read last year?
All OH. 40 or 30?

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It was like 35 or 40 last year,
yeah.

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But I mean, this year you're not
reading, you're not reading

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comic books, are you?
No, no.

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You count that as a book, see,
Because I would if I did comic

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books, I I had like a lot.
Well, I count magazines.

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Magazines count.
Magazines count with photos.

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I read.
Geographic.

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Counts I used to I mean in
business, I would read hundreds

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of articles every year, hundreds
and I mean between newspapers

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articles, a little shorts on
what's happening in the

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industry, studies, I'd read
anything about data, stuff like

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that.
But I would never like, hey,

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this is 150 page dissertation or
250 pages on blah, blah, blah.

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And I would just like I would
tilt, you know, and I've really

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been maybe it's I'll blame it on
my ADHD or.

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The phone is bad, dude.
The phone is bad.

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Yeah, I lose.
That phone isn't really bad.

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Yeah.
Oh my God.

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That encourages you more and
more to run away from it and

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not.
But I think that, you know, the

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fear of education is that people
are putting ideas in your head

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when in reality I think that
they're just exposing people to

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many different ideas.
I'm sure there's people out

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there that are trying to cram
shit in your head and make you

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believe things.
I mean, we have two different

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parties that are doing exact
that all day every day, and

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they're spending hundreds of
billions of dollars on trying to

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make you believe X or Y, you
know, or hate X or hate Y or

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love X.
Or I remember when the the

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Federalist Society approached me
during the the whatever it is,

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what is it called?
The club fair?

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And I was like, what is this?
And then people said they were

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Nazis.
And I was like, OK, but I had no

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idea what it was.
And I don't really.

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I kind of go through life a
little boring to a lot of

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situations.
I think like that.

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Well, I think that that, that,
that at your own peril, you

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know, if you don't, if you, if
you, if you don't know what's

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happening with the government
and society, then if I mean, I

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guess you could in essence
evolve on your own separately

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and have your pretty life and
not be affected if you had, if

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you had the economics and if you
had but you just, I mean, you

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know, you like.
Expats that move to like

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Malaysia or something or
coastal.

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Yeah, but if you move.
Into a, but if it gets into.

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A fear then they'll just take
those citizenships away.

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Fair, you know, and I mean we've
already seen threatening to take

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US citizenship away from people
and you're like that's that's I

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mean citizens, not not people
that were immigrated or not

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people that whatever, but just
take it away, you know, but

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we'll see we'll see.
You know, this is a lot of

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people are very optimistic that
the pendulum will swing.

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I, I have doubts with seeing
that the, the, the recent

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budgetary increases to one
particular police force went up

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twentyfold.
And I think that that's going to

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really tell what's going to
happen in society, you know.

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But as we were talking about.
Education.

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I got to talk to you about, I
remember the teachers at Nova

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seemed like they, well, one,
they had more teaching hours in

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general of the ones that were at
UVA, right?

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They taught high school and
they, they would go teach

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college at night.
And there was a certain level of

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whether it was for money or
whether it was for the joy of

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teaching.
I think it's probably more of

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the money.
But at the same time, they were

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just way more skilled as
teachers than they were at Nova.

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Because in Nova you have one
teacher, right Or not Nova UVA

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at 1 so.
You're saying that the Nova

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teachers were more skilled?
Oh, by far.

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And UVA, easily.
Because at UVA you had a

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teacher, right?
And then you had them teach this

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giant class once a week, Once,
not twice a week, probably.

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And then you'd have him and then
somebody that's one year older

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than you called the TA teach the
rest of the class, which I just

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thought was the laziest thing in
the world.

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And I'm, so I'm paying for more
a school, right?

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I'm paying for 10X, allegedly a
better school, but the better

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school is twice as lazy.
So I don't really.

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And this is where everybody
nowadays is like, well, there's

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no trust in the university
system.

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Like, you know what?
There really isn't because you,

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you pay a lot of money to go
there.

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And then it's not even the
teachers teaching you, it's the

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fucking students.
Well, it's just crazy.

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Like that's so ridiculous.
Yeah, that, that.

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Really pissed me off.
That really, really pissed me

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off.
Did you ever ask him about that?

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No, no, I never did.
I just accepted it and said.

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Because I see, I've never
understood the whole idea that

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that and I think that they
farmed it to the Tasmania more

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and more.
When I went to Old Dominion, I

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would tell you I never had ATA,
OK.

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So this is a new.
Not one class, not one class,

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every single class was taught by
the teacher.

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And I remember my father telling
the story said, you know, I went

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to Alabama and I went to
Harvard.

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You know what the difference
was?

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The in Alabama they were using.
Blah blah blah blah blah blah.

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History, 16th century, blah,
blah, blah, blah.

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And they were talking about the
author and talking about what he

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meant.
When we went to Harvard, the

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author was teaching the class.
You're like, oh, OK, he probably

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knows what he meant.
So.

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You had a, you have a different,
a different viewpoint.

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But of course this isn't.
This is in the freaking 30s and

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40s, so.
That was similar to when I had

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this poetry professor named Mark
Edmondson, and he had gone to

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Harvard at the same time Robert
Frost was teaching there.

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And so he got to see Robert
Frost.

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He got to see who else was it,
Elizabeth Bishop.

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And then also, oh gosh, WH
Auden.

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So did he just see him in a book
or did he actually meet him?

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He met them in New York and he
would see them in New York all

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the time.
And yeah, no, it was.

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It was interesting to hear about
his experiences of actually

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seeing these people 'cause they
seem mythological when you, when

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you're taught to them well,
about them.

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Because I remember learning
about Robert Frost.

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It was like, Oh yeah, 1810 or
something.

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No, it's not.
No, it's weird.

446
00:23:18,040 --> 00:23:19,920
Time registers.
Very.

447
00:23:19,920 --> 00:23:23,760
Well, I mean, when your when
your mother and I went to the UK

448
00:23:23,760 --> 00:23:26,440
and Paris and Amsterdam and did
our big trip there.

449
00:23:26,880 --> 00:23:30,600
We met Chaucer.
We were on the train and we were

450
00:23:30,600 --> 00:23:32,800
going down and we saw Canterbury
and we heard it.

451
00:23:32,800 --> 00:23:35,880
And I told her I read Canterbury
Tales in high school and then we

452
00:23:35,880 --> 00:23:38,960
need to stop there and we just
stop because we had a 15 day

453
00:23:38,960 --> 00:23:41,040
trip that was picking shoes as
you go.

454
00:23:41,560 --> 00:23:43,240
And we stayed there and we
walked through Canterbury.

455
00:23:43,240 --> 00:23:48,520
And I remember there were like
all these things that were like

456
00:23:49,280 --> 00:23:51,640
that I remembered from reading
the Canada.

457
00:23:51,640 --> 00:23:55,560
It was a book like this that you
know, and it was, and we, it was

458
00:23:55,560 --> 00:23:59,760
like 11th grade English and we
went into it in great detail.

459
00:24:00,080 --> 00:24:05,600
And I would say, and Chaucer was
the author and, and, but I think

460
00:24:05,600 --> 00:24:07,840
it was written in 1400s or
thirteens or something like

461
00:24:07,840 --> 00:24:09,320
that.
I don't remember what what what

462
00:24:09,400 --> 00:24:11,880
century it was written in.
Yeah, I think it's.

463
00:24:11,880 --> 00:24:14,520
I was making a joke.
I think it was funny, yeah.

464
00:24:15,080 --> 00:24:17,440
No, I did not enjoy that 'cause
they made us read it in the

465
00:24:17,440 --> 00:24:19,560
original Middle English.
And I'm just like, I don't

466
00:24:19,560 --> 00:24:20,800
understand this.
He's like, why don't you

467
00:24:20,800 --> 00:24:22,200
understand?
I'm like, 'cause it's not my

468
00:24:22,200 --> 00:24:24,160
language.
And that was also TA that taught

469
00:24:24,160 --> 00:24:28,880
me that book.
And, and I'm just like, and the

470
00:24:28,880 --> 00:24:31,200
guy too was like, I was a
biochemist, but I understood the

471
00:24:31,200 --> 00:24:34,880
importance of English and how I
needed to get a doctorate in

472
00:24:35,080 --> 00:24:37,440
English literature.
And I was like, he's just the

473
00:24:37,440 --> 00:24:41,080
most pretentious asshole I've
ever heard, but that's what you

474
00:24:41,080 --> 00:24:42,440
got.
You got a lot of that from

475
00:24:42,440 --> 00:24:43,960
there.
There's a lot of

476
00:24:43,960 --> 00:24:45,600
pretentiousness.
Yeah.

477
00:24:45,840 --> 00:24:50,560
Well, at least I can identify to
myself to some degree, but I

478
00:24:50,560 --> 00:24:52,080
make jokes about it all the
time.

479
00:24:52,160 --> 00:24:55,360
But I feel like the majority of
people that go there cannot

480
00:24:55,360 --> 00:24:58,600
identify it within themselves.
I feel like they're very bad at

481
00:24:58,600 --> 00:25:01,120
it.
One was Canterbury Tales

482
00:25:01,120 --> 00:25:02,600
written.
That's actually a good question.

483
00:25:03,400 --> 00:25:06,600
Yeah.
Yeah, I mean, I, yeah, great.

484
00:25:06,600 --> 00:25:09,800
University, UNESCO, World
Heritage, like 1387 to 1400.

485
00:25:09,800 --> 00:25:12,800
There we go.
Yeah, we were right.

486
00:25:13,200 --> 00:25:15,800
Very cool.
Yeah, that was very neat.

487
00:25:16,000 --> 00:25:19,360
Anyway, as far as education
goes, I think about I, I was

488
00:25:19,360 --> 00:25:21,640
never taught by ATA when I was
an Old Dominion.

489
00:25:22,360 --> 00:25:24,840
Some of my classes were.
The cool thing was is we were

490
00:25:24,840 --> 00:25:26,760
actually taught by people that
did it.

491
00:25:27,720 --> 00:25:31,720
I had a real estate class and
the guy, the real estate

492
00:25:31,720 --> 00:25:36,280
teacher, really.
Really easy going person who I

493
00:25:36,280 --> 00:25:39,280
felt like I really learned a lot
from him and basically he was

494
00:25:39,280 --> 00:25:40,960
teaching him how to sell real
estate.

495
00:25:41,640 --> 00:25:44,000
And he goes from beginning to
end of the process.

496
00:25:44,600 --> 00:25:48,600
You write a, you write a you,
you, you sales contract,

497
00:25:48,600 --> 00:25:52,880
purchase contract for a house.
You also you, you find, you

498
00:25:52,880 --> 00:25:56,760
actually do the loan document
for the mortgage you.

499
00:25:56,880 --> 00:26:00,040
I mean, it was, it was actually
like one of those few classes

500
00:26:00,040 --> 00:26:04,200
that I can look back on and say
he actually showed me shit that

501
00:26:04,200 --> 00:26:05,360
I could.
Actually use.

502
00:26:05,360 --> 00:26:07,600
That actually sounds useful.
Yeah, I have, you know, and.

503
00:26:07,600 --> 00:26:09,360
It was like, but no one taught
that stuff.

504
00:26:09,360 --> 00:26:12,160
It'd be like if you were to
teach me finance, I learned I

505
00:26:12,160 --> 00:26:16,040
had securities 485 where we
where we learned about the beta

506
00:26:16,040 --> 00:26:19,360
and securities and betas.
What you want is securities that

507
00:26:19,360 --> 00:26:21,520
have beta.
So that one goes up one point

508
00:26:21,520 --> 00:26:25,160
when the market down opposite.
You know, it's it's it's it's a

509
00:26:25,160 --> 00:26:30,200
very you know what I said?
I can't remember.

510
00:26:30,200 --> 00:26:35,280
I was going to say I can still
see the book.

511
00:26:35,280 --> 00:26:38,640
It was a brown book.
It was, and it's like the Bible

512
00:26:38,640 --> 00:26:42,960
for securities and people learn
about bonds and, but what the,

513
00:26:42,960 --> 00:26:49,000
how they affect in stocks that,
but actually, no one ever showed

514
00:26:49,000 --> 00:26:54,360
us how to like buy a stock or
buy it, you know, or what will

515
00:26:54,360 --> 00:26:57,120
you do or you should have a
balance there.

516
00:26:57,120 --> 00:26:59,040
You know what?
I know what a ladder portfolio

517
00:26:59,040 --> 00:27:00,560
is.
I know what a balanced portfolio

518
00:27:00,560 --> 00:27:02,320
is.
I know what all these different

519
00:27:02,320 --> 00:27:05,600
things are.
But whether or not you should

520
00:27:05,600 --> 00:27:07,840
trust analysts, whether or not
you should, you know, what is

521
00:27:07,840 --> 00:27:10,640
the what is the point of
listening to JP Morgan's

522
00:27:10,680 --> 00:27:15,800
analysts when you know, if you
start to look at analysts, like

523
00:27:15,880 --> 00:27:19,480
78 or 82% of their
recommendations are all buys?

524
00:27:20,840 --> 00:27:22,680
That's pretty funny.
Well, think about it.

525
00:27:22,920 --> 00:27:25,120
What That that, That's weird.
Why would that be?

526
00:27:26,000 --> 00:27:29,360
You know, I mean, there's just
so many weird things and then

527
00:27:29,360 --> 00:27:31,360
some of them just won't deal
with certain types of

528
00:27:31,360 --> 00:27:33,120
securities.
You know, they just won't do it.

529
00:27:33,960 --> 00:27:37,280
You're like, well, well, but
that what, what's that mean?

530
00:27:37,880 --> 00:27:39,760
You know that those are the kind
of things I think that would

531
00:27:39,760 --> 00:27:41,560
have been really, really good.
I had another one that was

532
00:27:41,560 --> 00:27:43,240
really, really good, a
professor.

533
00:27:43,240 --> 00:27:46,160
And this is one of the things
that I credit, I credit my

534
00:27:46,160 --> 00:27:52,560
marketing professor, I credit
and I credit my finance 420

535
00:27:52,560 --> 00:27:56,440
something professor with helping
me start a business and

536
00:27:56,440 --> 00:27:59,720
understand a business.
Because I remember the, the head

537
00:27:59,720 --> 00:28:03,000
of marketing, he was like an old
guy and he was one of those

538
00:28:03,000 --> 00:28:07,280
people in the class was, I think
it's Monday, Wednesday, Friday,

539
00:28:07,280 --> 00:28:12,320
8:00 AM Horrible, horrible time,
you know, cuz you're usually

540
00:28:12,320 --> 00:28:14,720
just still hungover.
And it happened to be, and I

541
00:28:14,720 --> 00:28:17,560
remember it rained every day.
We went there and you know, and

542
00:28:17,560 --> 00:28:21,240
I'm in Norfolk, so it's like 45°
and pouring rain and I'm a mile

543
00:28:21,240 --> 00:28:24,440
and 1/2 from the campus.
So I have to ride my bike.

544
00:28:25,080 --> 00:28:29,400
OK.
And now I'm 22, I'm on a bike at

545
00:28:29,400 --> 00:28:33,800
7:30 in the morning, riding to
school, hungover as the worst

546
00:28:33,800 --> 00:28:37,200
dog in the world, thinking like,
is it worth it?

547
00:28:37,200 --> 00:28:39,320
And then I go there.
But the things I learned from

548
00:28:39,320 --> 00:28:41,600
him was just like the basics for
business.

549
00:28:41,960 --> 00:28:44,400
You know, you can't, you can't
just build a product and assume

550
00:28:44,400 --> 00:28:46,000
people come.
You have to sell it.

551
00:28:46,360 --> 00:28:48,960
You have to find people.
You have to find a market.

552
00:28:48,960 --> 00:28:51,160
You're going to go after, you're
going to you're going to have

553
00:28:51,160 --> 00:28:52,720
to.
And when you find the market,

554
00:28:52,720 --> 00:28:55,240
you're not just going to be able
to call up Bob Johnson, say Bob,

555
00:28:55,240 --> 00:28:57,680
come by my shit.
You're going to have to sell him

556
00:28:57,680 --> 00:29:00,760
with marketing.
And then this product that you

557
00:29:00,760 --> 00:29:05,080
make here, you're going to have
to sell it for less than you

558
00:29:05,080 --> 00:29:07,760
make it.
And you better be very careful

559
00:29:07,760 --> 00:29:11,520
on how you figure out what those
costs are that go into making

560
00:29:11,520 --> 00:29:14,440
it, because it isn't just the
raw materials, it's the whole

561
00:29:14,440 --> 00:29:15,880
story.
And this is, and this is

562
00:29:15,880 --> 00:29:17,800
marketing and he's telling me
this stuff.

563
00:29:17,800 --> 00:29:19,920
And it's like that resonated
with me.

564
00:29:19,920 --> 00:29:24,760
And then I had my finance guy
who was, he was a really, I

565
00:29:24,760 --> 00:29:29,440
mean, these three people were
really wealthy or you know, they

566
00:29:29,440 --> 00:29:34,360
were, they were like they were,
they didn't have to work.

567
00:29:34,960 --> 00:29:38,800
They, the other one guy owned
his own real estate practice and

568
00:29:38,800 --> 00:29:40,360
had like 30 people working for
him.

569
00:29:40,360 --> 00:29:45,000
The other one, the finance guy
owned like 7 hotels downtown and

570
00:29:45,000 --> 00:29:46,600
he was buying different
buildings.

571
00:29:46,920 --> 00:29:51,080
And he came to his class and his
class was basically, hey guys,

572
00:29:51,520 --> 00:29:54,800
you know, when he comes in and
he's just, he's just brutal when

573
00:29:54,800 --> 00:29:59,160
it comes to if you make a
mistake, there's no, I'm sorry,

574
00:29:59,160 --> 00:30:01,360
there's you made a mistake, you
get punished.

575
00:30:01,600 --> 00:30:05,600
There's no, you know, you don't
get to through the door.

576
00:30:06,000 --> 00:30:08,760
You know, if you're, if you're,
if you get only paid if you win

577
00:30:08,760 --> 00:30:11,480
the win it, then you wouldn't
get paid if you're in second

578
00:30:11,480 --> 00:30:14,200
place.
So he's very much like that.

579
00:30:14,240 --> 00:30:15,840
I mean, he's not wrong though,
right?

580
00:30:15,840 --> 00:30:17,040
He's not.
No, he's absolutely right.

581
00:30:17,800 --> 00:30:19,960
You know, that's, I mean that
when you, when you read the

582
00:30:19,960 --> 00:30:22,960
story of Bill Gates saying, you
know, there's your parents

583
00:30:22,960 --> 00:30:24,720
aren't there to take care of
you, you know, it's like, and he

584
00:30:24,720 --> 00:30:30,800
was that way and this is an 85,
you know, but he gave us a

585
00:30:30,800 --> 00:30:34,520
company that he wanted to buy
and he said, I want to buy this

586
00:30:34,520 --> 00:30:36,920
company.
Here's all the financials to the

587
00:30:36,920 --> 00:30:38,080
company.
And he gave us these and he

588
00:30:38,080 --> 00:30:39,280
didn't tell us the name of the
company.

589
00:30:39,280 --> 00:30:41,360
He didn't tell us the location,
but he gave us all sorts of

590
00:30:41,360 --> 00:30:45,720
internal stuff to it.
He said, I want you to tell me

591
00:30:46,320 --> 00:30:48,040
whether or not it's a good
decision.

592
00:30:49,000 --> 00:30:51,440
And if it is a good decision,
what should I pay?

593
00:30:52,960 --> 00:30:55,880
And I mean, like, think about
that.

594
00:30:55,960 --> 00:30:59,240
You're in college and you're
evaluating whether or not the

595
00:30:59,240 --> 00:31:03,720
guy spends 5I mean in college.
Think about that.

596
00:31:03,720 --> 00:31:07,000
They gave us this opportunity to
evaluate business, to spend

597
00:31:07,000 --> 00:31:10,560
millions of dollars to do this
and he trusted us.

598
00:31:10,560 --> 00:31:12,440
I mean, I don't know if he
trusts this or not, but he might

599
00:31:12,440 --> 00:31:14,560
have just been, he might have
been just blowing wet sand and

600
00:31:14,560 --> 00:31:18,160
he did it all the time.
But I mean, what a great way to

601
00:31:18,160 --> 00:31:25,240
grab 25 or 30 different aspiring
minds and give them a case that

602
00:31:25,240 --> 00:31:28,760
you will actually execute on or
not based on what they say.

603
00:31:28,960 --> 00:31:31,880
And I'm just like, and he of
course had his own guy do it

604
00:31:31,880 --> 00:31:34,040
too.
And it's like, well, you aligned

605
00:31:34,040 --> 00:31:36,480
with it or you didn't align with
it, or you brought up things

606
00:31:36,480 --> 00:31:39,520
that he didn't say.
And it was just like, and it was

607
00:31:39,520 --> 00:31:42,920
all in the presentation.
I mean, he, he, they were on the

608
00:31:42,920 --> 00:31:46,520
ground floor.
I remember wanting to buy a

609
00:31:46,520 --> 00:31:52,720
block downtown in Norfolk for
self storage and self storage

610
00:31:52,720 --> 00:31:55,360
now is everywhere.
Self storage is huge now.

611
00:31:55,440 --> 00:32:00,080
There's no such thing as self
storage and people were like why

612
00:32:00,080 --> 00:32:02,840
wouldn't you?
Why would people stuff their

613
00:32:03,000 --> 00:32:06,120
their stuff from their house in
some weird square?

614
00:32:06,120 --> 00:32:08,760
Pragmatically, yeah, they would
just throw their stuff away,

615
00:32:08,760 --> 00:32:09,560
right?
Why would you ever?

616
00:32:09,560 --> 00:32:12,920
Yeah, well, I mean a.
Lot of people love just tiny

617
00:32:13,400 --> 00:32:16,000
doohickeys that just resonated
with them.

618
00:32:16,000 --> 00:32:19,320
They remember the one time that
they were a kid or something.

619
00:32:19,320 --> 00:32:25,640
Like that, remember that Norfolk
has a huge naval population and

620
00:32:25,640 --> 00:32:28,320
people are coming and going all
the time.

621
00:32:28,320 --> 00:32:30,080
Didn't even think about that.
Right.

622
00:32:30,080 --> 00:32:32,440
And that was sort of the key.
It had nothing to do with you

623
00:32:32,440 --> 00:32:36,520
and me saying, hey, I bought too
much shit that I don't need and

624
00:32:36,520 --> 00:32:38,240
I can't figure out how to give
it away.

625
00:32:38,440 --> 00:32:41,720
I want to stick it in a box
until I die and let my kids take

626
00:32:41,720 --> 00:32:44,800
care of it.
No, it wasn't that, which is

627
00:32:44,920 --> 00:32:48,560
what a lot of people do, but or
you know, but it was, it was

628
00:32:48,560 --> 00:32:52,080
about military and we were
calculating the amount of people

629
00:32:52,080 --> 00:32:54,920
that came in and out of there.
There was like, you know, and

630
00:32:54,920 --> 00:32:57,160
how long they typically stayed
was 18 months.

631
00:32:57,160 --> 00:32:59,840
So they were they had A and you
can only get a one year lease.

632
00:32:59,840 --> 00:33:02,600
So they have a two year lease.
So they're for the last six

633
00:33:02,600 --> 00:33:03,760
months.
They have to store their stuff

634
00:33:03,760 --> 00:33:05,560
somewhere before it goes before
they leave.

635
00:33:05,560 --> 00:33:09,560
I mean, so many different
things, you know, and then it

636
00:33:09,560 --> 00:33:11,320
was whether or not they would
sell it and you would figure

637
00:33:11,320 --> 00:33:13,160
that out and it was just like,
wow.

638
00:33:13,480 --> 00:33:17,120
And whether or not it was going
to be a flat or it's going to be

639
00:33:17,120 --> 00:33:21,000
a multi level, you know, do you
do a do a self storage that you

640
00:33:21,000 --> 00:33:24,240
drive into and it's just one
single or do you do a self

641
00:33:24,240 --> 00:33:28,600
storage or it's four stories
high like downtown McLean where

642
00:33:29,120 --> 00:33:34,080
you can put six times the amount
or four times the amount of

643
00:33:34,080 --> 00:33:39,080
spaces with not four times the
cost and not.

644
00:33:39,080 --> 00:33:44,720
I always love space storage wars
when people are too poor to pay

645
00:33:44,720 --> 00:33:48,920
for their storage lockers and
then somebody goes in there and

646
00:33:48,920 --> 00:33:52,080
they basically hawk their
memories, and I think that

647
00:33:52,080 --> 00:33:55,080
that's pretty interesting.
That hurts me.

648
00:33:55,200 --> 00:34:00,280
I mean, that's kind of a nice
little thing about capitalism.

649
00:34:00,320 --> 00:34:02,000
Right.
But I think, I think that a lot

650
00:34:02,000 --> 00:34:06,160
of that is just fake.
Oh yeah, I'm in ATV show for

651
00:34:06,160 --> 00:34:08,560
sure.
But they do sell storage units

652
00:34:08,560 --> 00:34:10,719
all the time.
There's this one guy I've been

653
00:34:10,719 --> 00:34:15,000
seeing on Instagram that has
bought a storage container with

654
00:34:15,000 --> 00:34:18,719
a bunch of the artwork that
somebody had over the course of

655
00:34:18,719 --> 00:34:21,960
like 20 years.
And there's like about 100 and

656
00:34:21,960 --> 00:34:24,880
5200 canvases that are painted
in there.

657
00:34:25,280 --> 00:34:27,960
And he bought it.
And I'm like, wow, that's that's

658
00:34:27,960 --> 00:34:30,360
crazy to think about.
Like that's somebody's life's

659
00:34:30,360 --> 00:34:33,560
work that's in there that you
now own.

660
00:34:33,880 --> 00:34:35,159
I don't know.
Maybe they died though.

661
00:34:35,159 --> 00:34:37,159
I don't know but.
Oh, they died.

662
00:34:37,159 --> 00:34:40,360
I guess that's I would, I would,
I would want to track their

663
00:34:40,360 --> 00:34:41,960
heirs.
That would be kind of my thing.

664
00:34:42,000 --> 00:34:43,480
I'd look for the signatures,
right?

665
00:34:43,480 --> 00:34:46,040
But even though the signatures
are like doctor's notes and that

666
00:34:46,040 --> 00:34:47,920
you have no idea what it really
says, right?

667
00:34:48,120 --> 00:34:51,120
Yeah, I don't know.
Sometimes people sign the back

668
00:34:51,120 --> 00:34:55,199
of the painting in real and then
they paint it and they're

669
00:34:55,480 --> 00:34:57,720
whatever, Salvador Dali painting
type thing.

670
00:34:58,000 --> 00:34:59,360
Things that.
People will do.

671
00:34:59,520 --> 00:35:03,200
Remember the museum that we went
to on on Barcelona, outside of

672
00:35:03,200 --> 00:35:04,760
Barcelona?
Yeah, that was the.

673
00:35:04,760 --> 00:35:07,400
Dalai Museum The Dalai Museum,
the largest.

674
00:35:07,400 --> 00:35:09,600
One on the face of the Earth, I.
Mean, I think about that was

675
00:35:09,600 --> 00:35:12,880
where he lived, though, Yeah.
And he was buried in there.

676
00:35:13,320 --> 00:35:15,720
That was amazing.
That might be the best museum

677
00:35:15,720 --> 00:35:18,680
I've ever been to in my life.
Have you ever been to a better

678
00:35:18,680 --> 00:35:22,480
one?
OK, I like the Cody Museum.

679
00:35:23,200 --> 00:35:25,600
Oh, that was really that wasn't
forgot about that one.

680
00:35:25,600 --> 00:35:28,120
Yeah, that one was really cool.
That was out in the Midwest and

681
00:35:28,120 --> 00:35:31,320
it was nothing but guns.
You ever go to the the Roswell

682
00:35:31,320 --> 00:35:33,400
Museum?
It's a UFO museum and.

683
00:35:33,400 --> 00:35:34,920
No, you went to that which thing
it.

684
00:35:35,320 --> 00:35:37,400
Was funny as hell.
It was really, really funny

685
00:35:37,560 --> 00:35:40,480
because there's a UFO ologists
that are like kind of

686
00:35:40,480 --> 00:35:44,480
self-proclaimed academics of
UFOs, and I think that that's

687
00:35:44,480 --> 00:35:48,720
really, really, really good.
There's, there's two others that

688
00:35:48,720 --> 00:35:51,360
I would put in contention, DRC,
which is in Paris.

689
00:35:51,960 --> 00:35:58,880
I went there and I mean, it has
like scream, it has it, it has

690
00:35:59,280 --> 00:36:06,640
all of the greats that you would
think from Gauguin to Monet to,

691
00:36:06,720 --> 00:36:08,760
I mean, just one after the
other.

692
00:36:08,760 --> 00:36:11,440
And you're just like, it just
blows your mind that you're

693
00:36:11,440 --> 00:36:15,280
looking at paintings that you've
seen 10,000 times, like the

694
00:36:15,280 --> 00:36:18,200
painting behind you on the wall
of Squidward.

695
00:36:18,680 --> 00:36:22,120
Maybe MoMA, because I saw the
water lilies in MoMA and I also

696
00:36:22,120 --> 00:36:24,960
saw Starry Night as well.
I saw Starry Night there.

697
00:36:24,960 --> 00:36:27,440
Yes, saw that.
And then yeah.

698
00:36:27,440 --> 00:36:30,360
So I got to say the MoMA I think
was probably the best thing.

699
00:36:30,440 --> 00:36:32,400
Yeah, that's what I'm, that's
what I'm saying, Dorsey.

700
00:36:32,440 --> 00:36:34,200
I think that's the moment.
That's what we're talking about.

701
00:36:34,200 --> 00:36:36,440
The same one.
Were you in New York?

702
00:36:36,480 --> 00:36:37,200
No, this is new.
York.

703
00:36:37,200 --> 00:36:39,520
Oh, no, that's New York.
Yeah, New York may have had them

704
00:36:39,520 --> 00:36:42,920
on loan because I saw water
Lilies in Paris and they had a

705
00:36:43,200 --> 00:36:45,680
full circular museum.
Yeah, that was the same.

706
00:36:45,840 --> 00:36:47,520
Thing at the moment panels, it
was just.

707
00:36:47,520 --> 00:36:50,920
I think they made a room for the
the water lilies at the moment,

708
00:36:51,240 --> 00:36:57,480
but also the History Museum in
New York is by far the best

709
00:36:57,480 --> 00:36:58,960
History Museum of.
The lost.

710
00:36:59,560 --> 00:37:02,280
Yeah, no, it's it's incredible.
Night at the Museum is a great

711
00:37:02,280 --> 00:37:03,760
movie.
I didn't like the Guggenheim.

712
00:37:03,920 --> 00:37:05,400
But it's fantastic.
I've never been.

713
00:37:05,880 --> 00:37:09,160
What was that?
The well, it's just like the

714
00:37:09,160 --> 00:37:12,120
spiral that goes up to the top
and it has different arts and

715
00:37:12,120 --> 00:37:13,160
it's.
Mostly it's like the Hirshhorn

716
00:37:13,160 --> 00:37:13,920
or something.
It's.

717
00:37:13,960 --> 00:37:16,760
More modern, modern Y stuff.
And I didn't, you know, it was

718
00:37:16,760 --> 00:37:18,560
like.
Palm Springs.

719
00:37:18,560 --> 00:37:21,320
Piles of junk in the middle of
the room made to be something

720
00:37:21,720 --> 00:37:24,800
and it just didn't, it didn't
resonate with me because I'm

721
00:37:24,800 --> 00:37:31,520
like, I'm very, I'm quick to
judge, but also quick to love

722
00:37:31,880 --> 00:37:37,240
when it comes to art.
And I mean Lisbon, we went there

723
00:37:37,240 --> 00:37:43,200
to a museum and I would tell you
amazing when we went there, Jim

724
00:37:43,200 --> 00:37:46,840
and I went, when we went to,
it's Portugal, Lisbon.

725
00:37:47,640 --> 00:37:49,960
We're walking along and we go to
and it's, and it's like we got 3

726
00:37:49,960 --> 00:37:51,280
museums and let's go to modern
art.

727
00:37:51,280 --> 00:37:55,320
We go to modern art walking in.
And I never thought anything,

728
00:37:55,400 --> 00:37:58,080
Andy.
I always thought like whatever,

729
00:37:58,080 --> 00:37:59,480
Campbell that's.
Kind of where I'm at.

730
00:38:01,160 --> 00:38:09,080
I until I walk in and I see
Marilyn Monroe and it just

731
00:38:09,160 --> 00:38:15,480
knocks me off my socks.
It just like it just it, it

732
00:38:15,480 --> 00:38:17,840
moved me, you know, and that's
what art does.

733
00:38:17,840 --> 00:38:20,200
I mean that that's what it does
for me.

734
00:38:20,200 --> 00:38:22,520
I can't say what it does for
other people.

735
00:38:22,760 --> 00:38:24,200
Other people may look at
statues.

736
00:38:24,200 --> 00:38:25,440
I've never gotten anything out
of.

737
00:38:25,680 --> 00:38:28,240
I went to who's the guy that did
all the stone statues?

738
00:38:28,240 --> 00:38:30,080
It's a really big dude.
Michelangelo.

739
00:38:30,560 --> 00:38:32,680
No, yeah, I've seen his work.
But I I did.

740
00:38:32,680 --> 00:38:35,920
Da Vinci kick out of.
That Da Vinci, there's a really

741
00:38:35,920 --> 00:38:37,680
well known one.
He's in Venice.

742
00:38:37,680 --> 00:38:43,400
I've seen his, I've been to the
studio there, and it was very he

743
00:38:43,400 --> 00:38:47,400
did the Thinker.
Was that not Davinci?

744
00:38:47,760 --> 00:38:49,400
No, no.
Who did The Thinker?

745
00:38:49,440 --> 00:38:53,800
Let me see who did The guy that
looks like he's sitting on a

746
00:38:53,800 --> 00:38:57,600
toilet.
Yeah, yeah, I know who you're

747
00:38:57,600 --> 00:38:58,800
talking about it.
I just don't.

748
00:38:59,760 --> 00:39:02,880
Doesn't ring a bell.
I'm not a big sculpture guy.

749
00:39:03,120 --> 00:39:05,800
Yeah, neither am I.
Even though it's incredibly

750
00:39:05,800 --> 00:39:08,040
difficult work, Oh my God.
Yeah, you think about it and

751
00:39:08,040 --> 00:39:09,120
you're like, how?
Did the dis.

752
00:39:09,160 --> 00:39:11,880
I don't understand how you
smooth it like then let's.

753
00:39:12,160 --> 00:39:17,400
Rodan, August, August Rodin.
That's the one that I'm looking

754
00:39:17,400 --> 00:39:19,960
at right there.
I saw that, you know, that was

755
00:39:19,960 --> 00:39:22,880
out.
It was just like, really, really

756
00:39:23,160 --> 00:39:25,040
wow.
You mean see the stuff and it's

757
00:39:25,040 --> 00:39:27,800
like, how long did you work on
that to make that happen?

758
00:39:27,800 --> 00:39:29,320
Oh, I guess the Acropolis is
cool.

759
00:39:29,320 --> 00:39:30,960
Remember the Acropolis?
Yeah.

760
00:39:31,200 --> 00:39:32,640
I mean, there's so many
different things.

761
00:39:32,640 --> 00:39:35,720
I mean, and and I think, do you
think that you have more

762
00:39:35,720 --> 00:39:38,680
appreciation for art because
you're you you've been through

763
00:39:38,680 --> 00:39:40,600
education?
I don't know.

764
00:39:40,600 --> 00:39:42,520
I.
Guess I would say so for certain

765
00:39:42,520 --> 00:39:44,560
aspects of art.
Definitely things that I.

766
00:39:44,600 --> 00:39:47,120
Understand it more.
I don't really care about

767
00:39:47,280 --> 00:39:50,120
classics and what have you.
But then there's they were like,

768
00:39:50,120 --> 00:39:52,640
oh, this is the first time this
sort of narrative has ever been

769
00:39:52,640 --> 00:39:54,320
spun like this.
I'm like, oh, interesting.

770
00:39:54,760 --> 00:39:57,240
And it's really, it's
interesting how we consider

771
00:39:57,240 --> 00:40:01,360
influential things in the world
to be the most important, where

772
00:40:01,360 --> 00:40:03,240
it's like, I don't know.
It's kind of like when you go

773
00:40:03,240 --> 00:40:05,760
back and you remember the good
old days, right?

774
00:40:06,000 --> 00:40:07,840
The good old days in your life,
But you don't know that you're

775
00:40:07,840 --> 00:40:09,280
in the good old days until
they're over.

776
00:40:09,680 --> 00:40:12,440
And that's the same thing with
art, is that you go back and

777
00:40:12,440 --> 00:40:14,960
then you're like, well, this was
the good old Daisy influential

778
00:40:15,080 --> 00:40:18,680
periods, right?
Right, which is, what's his

779
00:40:18,680 --> 00:40:20,160
name?
Picasso's Blue Period.

780
00:40:20,920 --> 00:40:22,360
We saw that downtown at the
Phillips.

781
00:40:22,360 --> 00:40:23,760
That was really good.
What are you with us?

782
00:40:23,760 --> 00:40:26,040
What?
Did I see the other day the red,

783
00:40:26,280 --> 00:40:29,880
the red something?
What was it not bask?

784
00:40:29,960 --> 00:40:31,880
Yeah, was.
It passo.

785
00:40:32,680 --> 00:40:35,800
It's all red.
No, the guy that did the dancers

786
00:40:35,800 --> 00:40:38,600
in the circle.
The dancers in a circle.

787
00:40:38,680 --> 00:40:42,480
Yeah, of hands the dancers in a
circle.

788
00:40:42,720 --> 00:40:44,800
Yeah.
I can't remember what his name

789
00:40:44,800 --> 00:40:50,080
was, but I was like, this is a a
kids drawing.

790
00:40:50,160 --> 00:40:53,120
I don't know.
I mean, you just said how just

791
00:40:53,120 --> 00:40:55,480
serious he was.
Yeah.

792
00:40:55,920 --> 00:40:58,560
He was it.
I I I remember.

793
00:40:58,560 --> 00:41:02,520
Exactly what I'm talking.
About he was in, not in MoMA.

794
00:41:05,120 --> 00:41:07,400
It's not say son either.
What?

795
00:41:07,600 --> 00:41:10,560
Let's not say son.
Suzanne No.

796
00:41:10,560 --> 00:41:16,880
It's not him, it's who was.
It remember the ones we saw in

797
00:41:16,880 --> 00:41:19,640
Turkey.
The ones in Turkey, What do?

798
00:41:20,160 --> 00:41:22,400
You mean the the dancers in a
circle?

799
00:41:23,200 --> 00:41:25,120
Oh, the whirling dervish was
really good.

800
00:41:25,720 --> 00:41:26,840
That was crazy.
Yeah.

801
00:41:28,720 --> 00:41:33,200
Painting Matisse.
There we go, Batisse.

802
00:41:33,240 --> 00:41:34,840
I'm not.
I'm not a fan at all.

803
00:41:35,000 --> 00:41:36,720
No, I didn't.
I didn't get a whole thing.

804
00:41:36,800 --> 00:41:40,760
I mean, dance and then, oh, you
did a lot of those.

805
00:41:41,480 --> 00:41:43,640
There's a couple of them that
are really friendly and happy

806
00:41:43,640 --> 00:41:47,000
where they show people at bars
and parties and things like

807
00:41:47,000 --> 00:41:47,920
that.
Who does that?

808
00:41:47,920 --> 00:41:50,840
I can't remember that, but I saw
a bunch of his paintings and he

809
00:41:50,840 --> 00:41:54,240
recognized his name.
It's like Fernando Picasso, El

810
00:41:54,240 --> 00:41:56,480
Dorado, Gauguin, something like
that.

811
00:41:56,480 --> 00:42:00,480
I don't know, he's really good.
But when I think, I think, I

812
00:42:00,480 --> 00:42:02,600
think we're, we're, we're
straying a little bit from

813
00:42:02,600 --> 00:42:06,240
education to art and.
I mean, museums is education,

814
00:42:06,600 --> 00:42:09,440
public education.
I think that's, I mean for me

815
00:42:09,440 --> 00:42:11,840
and it's when we, when we think
about education, it's like I

816
00:42:11,840 --> 00:42:16,000
graduated from college and I
used a lot of that, my business

817
00:42:16,000 --> 00:42:20,600
degree and many, many different
ways.

818
00:42:20,600 --> 00:42:23,760
There's parts I didn't use.
But The thing is, is like, I

819
00:42:23,760 --> 00:42:27,800
took English class, you know,
when I got out of college, Well,

820
00:42:27,800 --> 00:42:30,720
the weirdest thing in the world
that happened to me, I started

821
00:42:30,720 --> 00:42:32,840
reading classics.
I that's strange.

822
00:42:33,600 --> 00:42:38,040
And I, and I read many, many.
I did what you did where I was

823
00:42:38,040 --> 00:42:42,400
reading like 10 or 15 books a
year that were all classics and

824
00:42:42,400 --> 00:42:44,840
I would just go and I would go
like, okay, the Red Badge of

825
00:42:44,840 --> 00:42:45,720
Courage.
I never read that.

826
00:42:45,720 --> 00:42:47,600
I'm gonna read that.
Okay, I never read.

827
00:42:47,960 --> 00:42:51,120
And it was all the ones that you
would think about Dracula.

828
00:42:51,120 --> 00:42:53,080
I'm gonna read that.
Lame is I'm gonna read that.

829
00:42:53,080 --> 00:42:56,160
I mean, the jungle, I'm gonna
read that and.

830
00:42:56,160 --> 00:42:58,960
That was great up in Sinclair is
most important American author

831
00:42:58,960 --> 00:43:00,960
that time.
And there were there were ones

832
00:43:00,960 --> 00:43:03,680
that were, I remember England,
there was 1 something in the

833
00:43:03,680 --> 00:43:06,480
park.
There was this the house that

834
00:43:06,480 --> 00:43:08,520
was in a park and it was these
three women.

835
00:43:08,520 --> 00:43:11,560
And it was one of the one of the
woman authors.

836
00:43:11,560 --> 00:43:13,640
And I just never got it.
And just like this is boring as

837
00:43:13,640 --> 00:43:15,920
shit.
That was kind of what I'm

838
00:43:15,920 --> 00:43:18,040
reading now, Middlemarch by
George Eliot.

839
00:43:18,040 --> 00:43:19,480
I'm like, why did I do this to
myself?

840
00:43:19,480 --> 00:43:21,280
Yeah, yeah.
And when you just go in there

841
00:43:21,280 --> 00:43:23,320
and you just want to cut your
hands or your throat, it's.

842
00:43:23,320 --> 00:43:26,920
Kind of what it feels like
because The Jungle is

843
00:43:26,920 --> 00:43:30,800
interesting, because it's a
socialist manifesto paired with

844
00:43:30,800 --> 00:43:34,360
a really great narrative.
And that's why I think that

845
00:43:34,360 --> 00:43:36,520
that's probably the most
important book of all time.

846
00:43:36,520 --> 00:43:39,520
It's because when you say
socialism, Americans become

847
00:43:39,520 --> 00:43:40,960
afraid.
But if you pair it with the

848
00:43:40,960 --> 00:43:44,800
narrative to show that it's the
accurate price of consumption or

849
00:43:44,800 --> 00:43:48,280
of consuming goods, then you get
a little understanding that

850
00:43:48,280 --> 00:43:52,520
maybe the European guy that came
here to start a new life and

851
00:43:52,520 --> 00:43:55,440
he's dying of starvation is kind
of impacted by the price of

852
00:43:55,440 --> 00:43:56,960
goods.
So I don't know.

853
00:43:56,960 --> 00:44:00,040
I think that that's an
interesting way to do it.

854
00:44:00,440 --> 00:44:04,360
When I think about that, when I
think about the jungle, when I

855
00:44:04,360 --> 00:44:13,240
probably read it 3035 years ago,
I still have like a visual of

856
00:44:13,600 --> 00:44:18,360
the meat house where they, they
brought the animals in and they,

857
00:44:18,480 --> 00:44:22,240
they sliced off the great parts.
And then the stuff they dumped

858
00:44:22,240 --> 00:44:25,240
on the floor that went through
the hole down to the next level.

859
00:44:25,440 --> 00:44:28,960
And that's where they made
whatever.

860
00:44:29,440 --> 00:44:33,120
And then they dumped that stuff
on the floor and shoveled it in

861
00:44:33,120 --> 00:44:35,720
and it fell down to the next
through and went to the next

862
00:44:35,720 --> 00:44:38,360
floor.
And that team of butchers made

863
00:44:38,360 --> 00:44:41,080
it something else.
And then the next floor and the

864
00:44:41,080 --> 00:44:46,520
next floor and the next floor
and at the bottom was like, you

865
00:44:46,520 --> 00:44:48,160
know, whatever stuff that they
couldn't.

866
00:44:48,320 --> 00:44:50,720
I remember that.
I remember walking to work

867
00:44:50,720 --> 00:44:54,880
through the muddy streets.
I remember him trying to get to

868
00:44:54,880 --> 00:45:00,080
his, his apartment because his
apartment was a behind other

869
00:45:00,080 --> 00:45:04,000
people's apartments.
So he had to cut through, cut

870
00:45:04,000 --> 00:45:06,960
through rooms to get to his
apartment.

871
00:45:06,960 --> 00:45:09,560
And it was just, and it was very
odd for me.

872
00:45:09,560 --> 00:45:11,200
And I'm like, and that that's
what I thought.

873
00:45:11,200 --> 00:45:14,880
Like, you know, when you think
about being poor, that's when I

874
00:45:14,880 --> 00:45:17,720
was like, well, he, he lived
indoors, you know, he wasn't, he

875
00:45:17,720 --> 00:45:19,640
wasn't the.
Guy, that was the whole thing

876
00:45:19,640 --> 00:45:25,400
that when they're getting milk
from the the grocery store,

877
00:45:25,400 --> 00:45:28,800
'cause the the Jungle really
established the FDA in the US.

878
00:45:28,800 --> 00:45:32,160
That was the whole thing that
happened after and their

879
00:45:32,160 --> 00:45:35,040
daughter dies because they
bought the wrong milk at the

880
00:45:35,040 --> 00:45:39,520
grocery store that was cut with
mercury and it was blue, and

881
00:45:39,520 --> 00:45:41,720
then she died.
And then that's just a matter of

882
00:45:41,720 --> 00:45:42,880
fact.
That's just a fact that

883
00:45:42,880 --> 00:45:45,280
happened.
And then it's like, wow, well.

884
00:45:45,440 --> 00:45:54,640
I mean, pre 50s, pre polio, pre
vaccine people, kids, you know,

885
00:45:54,960 --> 00:45:58,760
you'd expect one to die.
That was sort of like one of the

886
00:45:58,760 --> 00:46:01,880
litter was going to get whacked.
That's why that too.

887
00:46:01,880 --> 00:46:06,920
Especially when you're
unfettered capitalism resulting

888
00:46:06,920 --> 00:46:13,480
in crazy products that are just
cut five ways from Sunday and

889
00:46:13,480 --> 00:46:16,040
you see hurt people.
There are a lot of people.

890
00:46:17,720 --> 00:46:20,320
And it's like, wow.
But anyways, as far as

891
00:46:20,320 --> 00:46:23,880
education, when you think about
it, you there's like this line

892
00:46:23,880 --> 00:46:26,600
of demarcation when you get out
of college and it's like, I

893
00:46:26,600 --> 00:46:31,240
mean, I feel like I've learned a
lot educationally.

894
00:46:31,240 --> 00:46:36,440
I've taken courses, short
courses, I've taken like one

895
00:46:36,440 --> 00:46:38,560
hour seminars and all this kind
of stuff.

896
00:46:38,560 --> 00:46:41,920
And when I go every year when I
would go to the various

897
00:46:41,920 --> 00:46:46,720
association meetings, they would
always have Cle continuing legal

898
00:46:46,720 --> 00:46:49,480
education.
I've actually taught continuing

899
00:46:49,480 --> 00:46:52,040
legal education multiple
different times.

900
00:46:52,280 --> 00:46:55,800
I, I would do a case, I would do
a story on not a story.

901
00:46:56,200 --> 00:46:59,880
I would do a class on 10 KS,
which are annual financial

902
00:46:59,880 --> 00:47:02,520
statements for public companies.
I do it on queues, I do it on

903
00:47:02,600 --> 00:47:06,240
the 34 Act, I've done it on the
40 Act, I've done it on Williams

904
00:47:06,240 --> 00:47:09,400
Act, I've done it on, I mean,
just every area of securities

905
00:47:09,400 --> 00:47:13,560
law, you know, not every area,
many of the areas and it'll be

906
00:47:13,560 --> 00:47:15,920
the areas from the 90s because a
lot of them don't apply today.

907
00:47:15,920 --> 00:47:18,400
When you think about that, the
way that the forms have changed

908
00:47:18,400 --> 00:47:20,800
the years, but no one would know
what I'm talking about because

909
00:47:20,800 --> 00:47:23,440
it's all gobbledygook to anybody
that's outside of the securities

910
00:47:23,440 --> 00:47:27,040
industry.
But anyway, that has been my

911
00:47:27,040 --> 00:47:28,120
education.
It's gone.

912
00:47:28,120 --> 00:47:31,400
I've, I've, and now I'm retired
and I'm like, and my education

913
00:47:31,400 --> 00:47:33,520
now is like, what the fuck, you
know, it's like, what am I going

914
00:47:33,520 --> 00:47:35,440
to do?
And I came across something

915
00:47:35,440 --> 00:47:38,680
because I wrote AI wrote a
strategy or wrote a plan of the

916
00:47:38,680 --> 00:47:40,720
things I want to do over the
next five years.

917
00:47:40,720 --> 00:47:43,320
And I it was last year and it
was like get healthy, do this,

918
00:47:43,320 --> 00:47:46,400
do this and that all these
things be less of a drunk.

919
00:47:46,480 --> 00:47:49,720
How's that going?
Actually pretty good, pretty

920
00:47:49,840 --> 00:47:51,800
good and your skin looks.
Really good.

921
00:47:52,160 --> 00:47:57,720
I really messed up my my body in
the spring of this year and I'm

922
00:47:57,720 --> 00:48:01,080
paying for it now and I'm I'm
going through trying to get back

923
00:48:01,080 --> 00:48:04,800
to where the good old days
January.

924
00:48:05,040 --> 00:48:08,400
You know, so the weird thing
about health is you don't know

925
00:48:08,400 --> 00:48:10,400
you're unhealthy until it's too
late, isn't?

926
00:48:10,480 --> 00:48:15,400
It well, I wasn't.
I mean, I was, I would say that

927
00:48:15,400 --> 00:48:19,160
I was not, I, I was just
starting out in the year I was

928
00:48:19,160 --> 00:48:21,200
going to, I was feeling I was
going to have a better year.

929
00:48:21,200 --> 00:48:24,200
And, and in the last three
years, each and every year I did

930
00:48:24,200 --> 00:48:27,920
more, I averaged like 10,000
steps.

931
00:48:27,920 --> 00:48:31,800
I averaged like 11,000.
I averaged 12/5.

932
00:48:31,960 --> 00:48:34,560
And this year was going to be
the 13th because I would amp it

933
00:48:34,560 --> 00:48:36,920
up because one of the things I
have a buddy of mine that works

934
00:48:36,920 --> 00:48:38,960
out all the time.
He's really, really in great

935
00:48:38,960 --> 00:48:41,720
physical shape and he's late
50s, you know, Mr. Strongman

936
00:48:42,200 --> 00:48:45,640
and, and he always said the
words keep moving.

937
00:48:46,000 --> 00:48:49,160
So for me, I try to lift
weights, I try to do that stuff,

938
00:48:49,160 --> 00:48:51,840
but also it's like keep moving
and and but you.

939
00:48:51,840 --> 00:48:53,720
Know The thing is the new
smoking as they say yeah.

940
00:48:54,080 --> 00:48:57,000
Yeah.
But that being said about

941
00:48:57,000 --> 00:49:00,000
education, about trying to do it
and trying to continue classes

942
00:49:00,000 --> 00:49:03,360
and things like that and trying
to learn things because, but I

943
00:49:03,360 --> 00:49:05,800
need to learn things in a more
of a compact way.

944
00:49:05,800 --> 00:49:10,640
And so I've applied.
I applied for Stan Stanford.

945
00:49:10,760 --> 00:49:14,000
Well, I wanted to learn about
artificial intelligence and it's

946
00:49:14,000 --> 00:49:16,640
something that I've really kind
of had because in my industry,

947
00:49:16,640 --> 00:49:19,600
it's my industry started out in
the paper, then it went online,

948
00:49:19,600 --> 00:49:22,880
then it went, then it went to
the Internet and then it went,

949
00:49:22,880 --> 00:49:25,880
the different technologies have
been algorithms that allow you

950
00:49:25,880 --> 00:49:30,280
to pull certain data points and
10:10 X better algorithms.

951
00:49:30,280 --> 00:49:33,640
And then now there's actually
question asking and answering,

952
00:49:33,840 --> 00:49:36,920
which is artificial intelligence
that I want to see how it all

953
00:49:36,920 --> 00:49:39,880
works, how it all shakes out.
So I started looking around like

954
00:49:39,880 --> 00:49:42,200
where would be the best place to
learn about and how can you

955
00:49:42,200 --> 00:49:45,000
learn about it?
And you can take like a dozen

956
00:49:45,000 --> 00:49:46,840
seminars online and do
everything like that.

957
00:49:46,840 --> 00:49:50,960
I'm saying and, and frankly, I'm
just a lazy person and I know

958
00:49:50,960 --> 00:49:53,760
that I cannot self apply.
I've never been able to do

959
00:49:53,760 --> 00:49:55,320
online learning.
I've never been to do anything

960
00:49:55,320 --> 00:49:57,160
like that.
I have to go in person.

961
00:49:57,400 --> 00:50:01,440
So I applied to Stanford
business education, executive

962
00:50:01,440 --> 00:50:05,000
education program.
It's happens in October.

963
00:50:05,160 --> 00:50:09,120
It's only for like 6 or 7 days,
but it's on site, it's in

964
00:50:09,120 --> 00:50:13,160
Stanford, and I think that in
San Francisco, the center of

965
00:50:13,160 --> 00:50:17,920
where AI is today is growing.
When you think about chat, BDT

966
00:50:17,920 --> 00:50:20,680
and all the people, that's where
it's happening, that this is

967
00:50:20,680 --> 00:50:25,520
where I'm going to get a true
feel for what it is and how it

968
00:50:25,520 --> 00:50:27,040
is, I think.
What it is you could tell us I.

969
00:50:27,040 --> 00:50:28,160
Don't know what I can do with
it.

970
00:50:28,360 --> 00:50:30,560
I really don't know.
I mean, I'll, I'll tell us that

971
00:50:30,960 --> 00:50:31,600
You what?
I'm sorry.

972
00:50:31,600 --> 00:50:33,680
You can tell us if Skynet's
going to take over.

973
00:50:34,320 --> 00:50:36,760
Yeah, probably.
I think it will open.

974
00:50:36,760 --> 00:50:39,800
AI just had a $200 million deal
with the US military.

975
00:50:40,600 --> 00:50:42,000
Pretty cool, right?
Pretty awesome.

976
00:50:42,000 --> 00:50:43,920
I can't wait to be killing
robots in 20 years.

977
00:50:44,640 --> 00:50:46,520
I'm so excited.
Well, I mean.

978
00:50:46,520 --> 00:50:48,880
If it's even that long from now,
it's probably 10 years out,

979
00:50:48,880 --> 00:50:52,000
maybe 5.
Well when you do a search now on

980
00:50:52,560 --> 00:50:55,080
Google it it gives you a summary
in AI.

981
00:50:55,160 --> 00:50:57,160
What robot war when we're going
to?

982
00:50:57,160 --> 00:51:01,240
Robot, war robot.
And so here's the thing, what's

983
00:51:01,240 --> 00:51:03,640
it giving you that summary from
in?

984
00:51:03,640 --> 00:51:06,160
Itself.
Yeah, but it's but it.

985
00:51:06,160 --> 00:51:09,600
But did somebody pay it to give
you that type of a summary?

986
00:51:09,960 --> 00:51:12,000
Because it's not.
Like question actually.

987
00:51:12,000 --> 00:51:16,880
It's not like these people
aren't beyond being sponsored to

988
00:51:16,880 --> 00:51:19,720
say a particular message, you
know?

989
00:51:19,960 --> 00:51:22,360
Yeah, where it's curating the
message from that is actually

990
00:51:22,360 --> 00:51:23,480
funny.
Right.

991
00:51:23,520 --> 00:51:26,840
Let's get the 10,000 things that
people would ask questions of

992
00:51:26,840 --> 00:51:29,440
this, and then let's figure out
to make curate messages that are

993
00:51:29,440 --> 00:51:31,800
this way.
Interesting.

994
00:51:32,040 --> 00:51:33,640
Yeah.
Very weird.

995
00:51:34,360 --> 00:51:37,920
I think it's.
Great, you know, we're getting,

996
00:51:37,920 --> 00:51:40,160
we're, we're, we're when we
think about, I mean, when you

997
00:51:40,160 --> 00:51:43,040
think about what's the future of
education, you see people, you

998
00:51:43,040 --> 00:51:44,160
know.
People are going to stop going

999
00:51:44,160 --> 00:51:45,720
to college.
I feel like that that's going to

1000
00:51:45,720 --> 00:51:48,480
happen because you have a low
literacy rate, a lower literacy

1001
00:51:48,480 --> 00:51:52,640
rate than 10 years ago in the US
and I think people are you think

1002
00:51:52,640 --> 00:51:56,320
are going to become increasingly
more question yeah, 56%.

1003
00:51:56,320 --> 00:51:57,760
Now I can't read about 6th grade
reading level.

1004
00:51:58,040 --> 00:51:59,800
What was it before?
46.

1005
00:52:01,160 --> 00:52:05,240
Oh, 46 to 56 mean more people
can't.

1006
00:52:05,360 --> 00:52:08,400
OK, I had it weird.
I had it weird because one of

1007
00:52:08,400 --> 00:52:11,960
the things I was looking at is
they have this thing nationally.

1008
00:52:11,960 --> 00:52:14,040
And it's one of the things that
we say about ourselves that

1009
00:52:14,040 --> 00:52:16,880
we're everybody's stupid.
We're 700 than this and that and

1010
00:52:16,880 --> 00:52:18,480
the other.
And there's something called the

1011
00:52:18,600 --> 00:52:23,120
a caps or not the Mcats, but
it's a PAP or something like

1012
00:52:23,120 --> 00:52:25,160
that.
And it's it's this International

1013
00:52:25,160 --> 00:52:31,440
Association that grades
countries on how their

1014
00:52:31,440 --> 00:52:35,600
population is, what level they
are intellectually.

1015
00:52:36,160 --> 00:52:40,160
And one of the things it does is
like we're we're third and mad.

1016
00:52:41,680 --> 00:52:44,240
But out of what though?
Like out of the whole country or

1017
00:52:44,280 --> 00:52:46,720
out of?
No, out of the world, so not,

1018
00:52:46,720 --> 00:52:51,640
but the world.
So see, now when you start to

1019
00:52:51,640 --> 00:52:57,680
look at us, if you were to
compare us to Tongo or, or to

1020
00:52:57,680 --> 00:53:10,080
compare us to Peru or to Ghana
or to New Zealand or to India, I

1021
00:53:10,120 --> 00:53:16,400
mean it it when you start to
look at it, we're, we're not as

1022
00:53:16,400 --> 00:53:21,720
bad, but for the money that we
have, we should be much, much

1023
00:53:21,720 --> 00:53:23,840
further bad.
Oh, I completely.

1024
00:53:23,960 --> 00:53:27,680
And that's the thing.
And instead of relying on

1025
00:53:27,680 --> 00:53:32,840
intelligence, we rely on brute
force or.

1026
00:53:33,520 --> 00:53:36,440
That is kind of the way the the
system has been made.

1027
00:53:36,640 --> 00:53:40,120
And well, the SAT is derived
from World War 2, which is

1028
00:53:40,120 --> 00:53:41,680
crazy.
Yeah.

1029
00:53:41,680 --> 00:53:47,400
From separating people into
different kind of classes or

1030
00:53:47,400 --> 00:53:48,960
whatever or whatever.
Have you?

1031
00:53:49,040 --> 00:53:50,320
Yeah.
What I mean, that's when you

1032
00:53:50,320 --> 00:53:54,280
start to realize that when it
it's not the same.

1033
00:53:55,760 --> 00:53:59,040
And I, and I can tell you when I
applied to college, if I had had

1034
00:53:59,040 --> 00:54:02,240
a little more money, I'm sure
that my parents would have told

1035
00:54:02,240 --> 00:54:05,160
me how to apply.
So I could have gone to

1036
00:54:05,160 --> 00:54:07,400
different schools.
They would have told me that I

1037
00:54:07,400 --> 00:54:11,440
had to fill out the essay.
They wouldn't have said it was

1038
00:54:11,440 --> 00:54:12,960
optional.
I don't know why they say it's

1039
00:54:12,960 --> 00:54:14,760
optional.
I think they do that to weed

1040
00:54:14,760 --> 00:54:17,160
people out from the initial
process, but.

1041
00:54:17,160 --> 00:54:19,000
If you think about it, it's like
they weed.

1042
00:54:19,000 --> 00:54:23,960
They weeded me out because I
didn't know, and it wasn't

1043
00:54:23,960 --> 00:54:27,320
because I was stupid, it was
because I never had anybody tell

1044
00:54:27,320 --> 00:54:29,400
me.
Hey dude, don't.

1045
00:54:29,520 --> 00:54:32,760
Don't walk across when it's a
red light you dumb ass.

1046
00:54:32,760 --> 00:54:35,480
Well, if you want to talk about
gatekeeping in society and.

1047
00:54:35,640 --> 00:54:38,760
Just simple.
And it wasn't you.

1048
00:54:38,760 --> 00:54:42,480
Know, and you think about it and
it's like, wow, what it made me

1049
00:54:42,480 --> 00:54:46,800
kind of go like, hey, Garfield
guidance sucks.

1050
00:54:46,920 --> 00:54:50,120
That's my high school guidance.
They, they, they never helped me

1051
00:54:50,120 --> 00:54:54,360
with anything ever in any
direction about anything.

1052
00:54:54,560 --> 00:54:56,440
Never.
And people say, well, you didn't

1053
00:54:56,440 --> 00:54:57,760
go to them.
And it's like, well, they're the

1054
00:54:57,760 --> 00:54:59,840
counselor.
Aren't they supposed to read?

1055
00:55:00,040 --> 00:55:02,280
They should have made an
appointment or something with a

1056
00:55:02,280 --> 00:55:05,600
student to talk to them about
what their future life was going

1057
00:55:05,600 --> 00:55:08,920
to be.
I mean, you know, Valerie, when

1058
00:55:08,920 --> 00:55:11,080
she went to her counselor,
they're like, well, you know,

1059
00:55:11,080 --> 00:55:15,000
you can get a job as a
secretary, you know, but you're

1060
00:55:15,000 --> 00:55:18,320
going to have to you better take
typing, you know, and are you on

1061
00:55:18,320 --> 00:55:21,920
birth control?
That's the that's what they're

1062
00:55:21,920 --> 00:55:23,280
asking her.
Are you on birth control?

1063
00:55:23,280 --> 00:55:28,160
You're thinking like, that's
great birth control and you can

1064
00:55:28,160 --> 00:55:30,880
be a typist.
That was it, you know, that was

1065
00:55:30,880 --> 00:55:33,320
the whole thing.
And I don't know if that's what

1066
00:55:33,320 --> 00:55:35,480
the everybody pushed.
I don't know how it was, but it

1067
00:55:35,480 --> 00:55:38,040
was kind of interesting that you
figure out like, wow, they, you

1068
00:55:38,040 --> 00:55:41,160
know, talk about sending a
message.

1069
00:55:41,600 --> 00:55:44,960
You know, we talk about teachers
directing you and stuff like

1070
00:55:44,960 --> 00:55:46,600
that.
And oh, they're, they're trying

1071
00:55:46,600 --> 00:55:49,040
to change our children.
It's like, no way.

1072
00:55:49,040 --> 00:55:52,200
They didn't have the the ones I
know all my nieces and nephews

1073
00:55:52,200 --> 00:55:53,760
that are all in it.
They just want to.

1074
00:55:54,080 --> 00:55:56,360
They want the kids to learn how
to add.

1075
00:55:57,080 --> 00:56:00,160
Just being able to know how to
read is the important.

1076
00:56:00,320 --> 00:56:05,760
Yeah, I think that's probably
one of the biggest things that,

1077
00:56:06,080 --> 00:56:08,320
you know, would be the
difference.

1078
00:56:08,320 --> 00:56:11,200
I mean, that's, I mean, that's
one of the reasons one of the

1079
00:56:11,200 --> 00:56:17,320
charities that I support is
Bluto Library Projects and they

1080
00:56:17,320 --> 00:56:23,680
build libraries in Africa, in
Zambia, Zambia, Zambia, Zambia.

1081
00:56:24,280 --> 00:56:27,520
They build libraries there for
children to learn how to read.

1082
00:56:29,120 --> 00:56:31,760
Yeah, the difference.
Yeah, the difference between

1083
00:56:32,320 --> 00:56:39,000
reading and not reading or
knowing how to read is economic

1084
00:56:39,000 --> 00:56:39,600
prosperity.
Oh.

1085
00:56:39,880 --> 00:56:41,360
Yeah, 100%.
That's where it's at.

1086
00:56:41,360 --> 00:56:43,280
And it's like, if you think
about it, it's like, Oh my God,

1087
00:56:43,280 --> 00:56:46,400
that's like probably it's, if
you look at The Economic Times,

1088
00:56:46,400 --> 00:56:49,880
it's like, wow, you've, you got
5% of the population that can

1089
00:56:49,880 --> 00:56:54,680
read and wow, they, they know
how to manipulate the other 95%.

1090
00:56:58,200 --> 00:57:00,480
But that.
Seemed to be how it goes,

1091
00:57:00,560 --> 00:57:02,600
doesn't it?
But the kids, but the kids and,

1092
00:57:02,600 --> 00:57:05,480
and, and that to me is like
really, really worthy because,

1093
00:57:05,840 --> 00:57:08,840
you know, they, they, it, it
gives them a central location

1094
00:57:08,840 --> 00:57:13,320
and, and they had a, they have a
huge pool of orphans in Africa

1095
00:57:13,320 --> 00:57:17,040
and a lot of different nations
because they, they had the, the

1096
00:57:17,040 --> 00:57:22,720
AIDS epidemic that wiped out
just droves of people, you know,

1097
00:57:23,120 --> 00:57:25,200
But that, that's such another
happy note.

1098
00:57:25,240 --> 00:57:26,840
You know, then we think about
the different things in

1099
00:57:26,840 --> 00:57:29,240
education.
What would you do to further

1100
00:57:29,240 --> 00:57:30,920
education?
What are you going to do going

1101
00:57:30,920 --> 00:57:32,720
forward that's going to further
your education?

1102
00:57:32,720 --> 00:57:33,840
I told you about the Stanford
thing.

1103
00:57:33,840 --> 00:57:36,000
Further my education specific.
Yeah, what are you doing?

1104
00:57:36,000 --> 00:57:37,440
What are you?
Doing When I get back from this

1105
00:57:37,440 --> 00:57:40,240
Mongolia thing, I want to start
taking community classes.

1106
00:57:40,240 --> 00:57:43,640
Community class or Community
College classes can't even talk.

1107
00:57:44,640 --> 00:57:47,720
You know, I go to USC.
Drawing specifically, why would

1108
00:57:47,720 --> 00:57:53,720
I go to USC when it's three
times more expensive and further

1109
00:57:53,720 --> 00:57:58,920
away than the Community College?
And I think it would be just as

1110
00:57:58,920 --> 00:58:00,760
good.
And I don't want, like, can you

1111
00:58:00,760 --> 00:58:02,560
even go to USC to just take
classes?

1112
00:58:02,560 --> 00:58:03,840
I don't think you can.
Yeah, you can.

1113
00:58:04,160 --> 00:58:07,040
Can you really?
You have to be accepted, though.

1114
00:58:07,040 --> 00:58:09,720
That's the thing.
I don't know.

1115
00:58:09,720 --> 00:58:11,080
I feel like you're just making
stuff up now.

1116
00:58:11,280 --> 00:58:12,320
You're right.
Yeah.

1117
00:58:13,000 --> 00:58:15,800
Because you have to be actually
enrolled as a student, I think.

1118
00:58:15,800 --> 00:58:16,480
I don't think.
You can.

1119
00:58:16,480 --> 00:58:18,760
You don't think you can take
class take occasional classes.

1120
00:58:18,760 --> 00:58:20,600
You audit classes.
I think that's what Community

1121
00:58:20,600 --> 00:58:22,080
College is for.
I guess you can audit.

1122
00:58:22,200 --> 00:58:24,440
College is great that way.
I love that because it's so

1123
00:58:24,440 --> 00:58:25,920
easy, in and out and all that
kind of stuff.

1124
00:58:25,920 --> 00:58:27,880
How do you you want to apply?
Yeah, it could be $5.

1125
00:58:27,920 --> 00:58:28,800
Yeah.
OK, you're in.

1126
00:58:28,800 --> 00:58:29,800
You're accepting.
Exactly.

1127
00:58:30,200 --> 00:58:32,200
Yeah, It's going to take a
couple drawing classes.

1128
00:58:32,600 --> 00:58:34,240
I think that would be really
cool, yeah.

1129
00:58:34,760 --> 00:58:38,560
I love to pound it, but I got to
tell you, I learned math.

1130
00:58:39,400 --> 00:58:44,520
I learned psychology.
I learned a lot about the prison

1131
00:58:44,520 --> 00:58:49,120
system.
I learned a lot about writing.

1132
00:58:49,440 --> 00:58:52,000
I mean, I wrote so much in
Community College.

1133
00:58:54,200 --> 00:58:57,480
What else?
I learned that I can't take

1134
00:58:57,480 --> 00:58:59,800
classes online.
I learned.

1135
00:58:59,840 --> 00:59:01,920
That.
I need to show up.

1136
00:59:02,040 --> 00:59:04,880
I'm I'm, I'm, I'm a learner if
I'm in the room, I'm not a

1137
00:59:04,880 --> 00:59:07,560
learner if I'm not.
That's just that's the way I.

1138
00:59:07,840 --> 00:59:11,080
I learned punctuality on turning
in assignments.

1139
00:59:11,160 --> 00:59:12,400
That was what we learned.
Yeah.

1140
00:59:12,680 --> 00:59:15,400
And then I learned that it
doesn't matter because I yeah,

1141
00:59:15,440 --> 00:59:19,720
that was kind of shitty early.
And I would get AB minus BB plus

1142
00:59:19,720 --> 00:59:23,680
whatever A, and then somebody
would turn it in even after the

1143
00:59:23,680 --> 00:59:26,480
semester was over and would get
a better grade than me.

1144
00:59:26,600 --> 00:59:31,840
And I then decided that college
doesn't matter and all of that.

1145
00:59:31,840 --> 00:59:34,920
These are the grades.
Know that you can turn something

1146
00:59:34,920 --> 00:59:38,320
in whenever you please.
Well, see, I remember.

1147
00:59:38,920 --> 00:59:41,480
Because I did these assignments
for history, specifically

1148
00:59:41,480 --> 00:59:44,160
history one O 1 or something and
you were supposed to turn them

1149
00:59:44,160 --> 00:59:46,880
in every Friday.
I think it was about 9 Fridays

1150
00:59:46,880 --> 00:59:49,840
in a row.
And it was like a summary of

1151
00:59:49,840 --> 00:59:56,520
what you needed to do in order
to or like what the, I don't

1152
00:59:56,520 --> 00:59:58,480
know what the your labs was or
something.

1153
00:59:58,480 --> 01:00:00,680
Your labs.
I don't know, it was just like

1154
01:00:00,680 --> 01:00:04,240
what you got from the reading.
And this one guy was like, do

1155
01:00:04,240 --> 01:00:06,680
you think I can turn them in all
right now?

1156
01:00:06,680 --> 01:00:08,600
And I was like, I don't think
so.

1157
01:00:08,600 --> 01:00:12,640
But I think he ended up being
allowed to turn them in like

1158
01:00:12,640 --> 01:00:14,080
weeks after the semester is
over.

1159
01:00:14,080 --> 01:00:17,320
I'm like, this is if, like he's
going to go through his whole

1160
01:00:17,320 --> 01:00:21,120
life now doing that, being late
to submitting assignments and

1161
01:00:21,120 --> 01:00:23,360
well, he's he's.
Learned how to schmooze and get

1162
01:00:23,360 --> 01:00:25,320
something.
Yeah, so that's how I learned.

1163
01:00:26,080 --> 01:00:28,560
That a lot of people do that.
Doesn't matter.

1164
01:00:28,600 --> 01:00:30,080
Like, I don't know.
The gift of GAP?

1165
01:00:30,080 --> 01:00:32,760
Well, no, it only matters to
those that don't question

1166
01:00:32,760 --> 01:00:34,560
authority, right?
Yeah, exactly.

1167
01:00:34,680 --> 01:00:37,080
Because he questioned and he
went after it and he tried to

1168
01:00:37,080 --> 01:00:41,400
change his personal situation
and he was successful, you know?

1169
01:00:42,080 --> 01:00:45,080
That's a fairpoint.
Yeah, so it's not really, even

1170
01:00:45,080 --> 01:00:47,480
though you want a lazy fuck, you
have to say to yourself like

1171
01:00:47,520 --> 01:00:50,520
teacher bad.
Yeah, that's what I would say.

1172
01:00:50,520 --> 01:00:51,680
I would say teacher.
Bad.

1173
01:00:51,680 --> 01:00:54,120
Every single one of them.
That's every single one.

1174
01:00:54,120 --> 01:00:56,960
Whether they were in Community
College or UV eights didn't seem

1175
01:00:56,960 --> 01:01:00,080
to matter at all.
Well, I don't know.

1176
01:01:00,200 --> 01:01:03,400
I think I mean the weird thing
for me is that going through

1177
01:01:03,400 --> 01:01:07,600
high school and having like a
1.6 GPA and then going to

1178
01:01:07,600 --> 01:01:10,880
Community College and having a
three two and then getting into

1179
01:01:10,880 --> 01:01:15,840
Old Dominion and or two nine.
It wasn't because I, I, I would

1180
01:01:15,840 --> 01:01:19,480
just not stop going to a class
and, and, and Community College

1181
01:01:19,480 --> 01:01:22,160
and just get an F and then not
even think about it until I

1182
01:01:22,160 --> 01:01:26,240
realized that, hey, that affects
your GPA, you dumb ass.

1183
01:01:26,560 --> 01:01:30,760
Anyway, I get out of school and
I'm looking at my grades and I'm

1184
01:01:30,760 --> 01:01:34,080
like a I'm about a three O like
that.

1185
01:01:34,120 --> 01:01:39,040
And, and, and then I'm but I'm a
3-4 if I only looked at certain

1186
01:01:39,040 --> 01:01:41,680
classes, like finance classes.
So I put that on my resume.

1187
01:01:41,680 --> 01:01:44,280
And I mean, I think about it to
this day that that was one of

1188
01:01:44,280 --> 01:01:50,160
the lines.
Attained 3.4 GPA in finance

1189
01:01:50,160 --> 01:01:52,280
directed classes.
You know, that was one of my

1190
01:01:52,280 --> 01:01:55,480
selling points when I applied
for jobs and I and I was

1191
01:01:55,480 --> 01:01:58,480
thinking like, and I think about
the grades today and I'm like,

1192
01:01:59,320 --> 01:02:03,960
you know, are the are.
The Anybody's looking at your

1193
01:02:04,440 --> 01:02:08,360
thing once I got into UVAI still
cared, but not as much.

1194
01:02:08,520 --> 01:02:09,480
Not as much.
Nearly.

1195
01:02:09,480 --> 01:02:11,120
Because I was like, I did.
I did the thing.

1196
01:02:11,600 --> 01:02:14,160
I got in here, and then I still
was on the Dean's list or

1197
01:02:14,160 --> 01:02:15,960
something for a couple semesters
in a row.

1198
01:02:16,280 --> 01:02:19,120
But then when it became the TAS
that were just absolutely

1199
01:02:19,120 --> 01:02:22,920
pulling my pants down and
ruining me, I decided to say

1200
01:02:22,920 --> 01:02:24,320
fuck it.
And I was just like, whatever,

1201
01:02:24,800 --> 01:02:26,920
Yeah.
I mean, that's kind of sad.

1202
01:02:26,920 --> 01:02:29,960
That's sad that that.
Was like, really screwed me over

1203
01:02:29,960 --> 01:02:31,760
a lot.
And then when the normal

1204
01:02:31,760 --> 01:02:35,160
teachers would grade my papers,
they were where they should be,

1205
01:02:35,160 --> 01:02:37,040
like B + A or something like
that.

1206
01:02:37,080 --> 01:02:39,320
Yeah.
And the TAS always just were

1207
01:02:39,320 --> 01:02:42,040
coming up with a reason to just
shit on you.

1208
01:02:42,080 --> 01:02:43,960
Yeah.
And it's 'cause what do you

1209
01:02:43,960 --> 01:02:44,880
think?
They just say that because

1210
01:02:45,080 --> 01:02:48,360
master's power, General.
What power?

1211
01:02:49,440 --> 01:02:51,480
Yeah, I think so.
I think it was.

1212
01:02:51,480 --> 01:02:53,120
I think it was.
Yeah, but if you're nice to them

1213
01:02:53,120 --> 01:02:54,960
and bought them beers and stuff
like that, you would have got

1214
01:02:54,960 --> 01:02:56,840
hired.
They were all pretentious as

1215
01:02:56,840 --> 01:02:57,720
hell too.
See.

1216
01:02:57,760 --> 01:03:01,000
So you didn't know how to crazy,
You didn't do what the one guy

1217
01:03:01,000 --> 01:03:03,360
did that said he got to turn his
stuff in late because he knew

1218
01:03:03,360 --> 01:03:06,280
how to kiss the right right ass
or write the right check.

1219
01:03:06,280 --> 01:03:09,120
That's true.
Say the right things.

1220
01:03:09,120 --> 01:03:14,320
It's funny that that
salesmanship is a way to.

1221
01:03:14,880 --> 01:03:16,720
It's almost like a skill that
you learn in college.

1222
01:03:17,000 --> 01:03:19,040
It absolutely is and and it's a
way to never really.

1223
01:03:19,040 --> 01:03:20,840
Thought about that.
It's a great way to avoid

1224
01:03:20,840 --> 01:03:23,160
responsibility, OK?
Oh, 100%.

1225
01:03:23,280 --> 01:03:26,120
It really, it really is, which
good, bad or indifferent, you

1226
01:03:26,120 --> 01:03:27,840
can say what you want, but if
you look at it, if you're a

1227
01:03:27,840 --> 01:03:30,880
really good salesperson, you can
avoid responsibility.

1228
01:03:31,000 --> 01:03:34,080
And but if you're a really good
salesperson and you're

1229
01:03:34,080 --> 01:03:37,440
responsible, Oh my God, you're
the home run, you know?

1230
01:03:37,960 --> 01:03:39,200
Exactly.
Yeah.

1231
01:03:39,800 --> 01:03:41,720
Well, on that note, what do we
have for time here?

1232
01:03:42,040 --> 01:03:43,840
Oh my God, you, you guys are
gabbing by.

1233
01:03:43,880 --> 01:03:45,400
We're gabbing our education.
That's why this.

1234
01:03:45,400 --> 01:03:47,120
Will be the longest episode
we've done in a while.

1235
01:03:47,560 --> 01:03:50,160
Yeah, it's like 700 hours, man.
No one's going to listen to this

1236
01:03:50,160 --> 01:03:51,600
thing.
Nobody's going to listen to it.

1237
01:03:51,640 --> 01:03:54,800
Nobody ever does, all right.
We'll talk and learn, man.

1238
01:03:55,320 --> 01:03:58,280
Thank you guys for listening.
As always, take classes, take

1239
01:03:58,280 --> 01:04:02,280
classes, expand your horizons,
do some push ups.

1240
01:04:02,280 --> 01:04:02,960
We'll.
Learning.

1241
01:04:02,960 --> 01:04:10,000
Learning isn't always about
being able to apply it that day

1242
01:04:10,280 --> 01:04:13,160
for monetary gain.
Oh, very.

1243
01:04:13,160 --> 01:04:14,920
That's a great piece of advice
right there.

1244
01:04:16,040 --> 01:04:17,720
All right, see you later.
How are you?