Episode 107: Gyms

0:09 Welcome back to another episode of A Record of My Father. So they were going to be talking about gyms that we've been in in the past, I guess, our entire lives. The one that I'm currently going to is LA Fitness, the one in Hollywood, Central Hollywood I guess. And I gotta tell you, nobody re racks the weights properly, even the staff at this point as just putting weights in random spots on the rack just 'cause they're just to rack them. It's. Why do you think that is? Because nobody re racks them properly at the the Central Hollywood location cause the traffic is so high. But in Brentwood it's funny. I think there's also a certain kind of demographic of people. Not necessarily ethnicity wise, but just the kind of person that goes to the Hollywood fitness.

0:58 Hollywood LA Fitness is a little a little different than the one that goes to Brentwood. I'm just going to say that you. Mean they're they're I think they're snotty bastards. No, they're less snotty and they're kind of trash can gremlins in my opinion. That's kind of everybody. Every time I go in there you. See that was that was the LA Fitness with you and I went here, remember? I wouldn't say those people were gremlins, though. I would say that that, well, that was. Weird trash cans. Pretty close man. Because it was Sport X is what the old place was. And it was just like, yeah. And there was like, and everything was empty and the spa was closed and there was urine on the top of the well. We won't go into that. Well, that wasn't the the people, the the clientele is what I was talking about, no. The clientele seemed really, they were all really nice. They they just it and I'm assuming that it's that's like a cheap club.

1:45 Well, yeah, LA Fitness is $40 a month nationwide, which is amazing, which is only $30 more than your Planet Fitness, which is $10 a month. But primarily Planet Fitness. Their demographics are homeless people and then also people that forget that they have a gym membership like that is what they're kind of whole market is on is. Old people forget. That they have a gym membership? Yeah, exactly. But for $10 a month, you're kind of. Like what was the one that was bubbles or something like that for the old people got together Spanx or Schwanks or? Oh, it's like orange something orange theory. No, your mother and her mother did it. They went.

2:28 They used to go there and what was that old lady Jim? And they had one. Oh, I remember what you're talking about. Lady Jim, what was it called? Shapes or something. Oh, there you go. What was it? Let's see what it was. But yeah, no, LA Fitness acquired export in Virginia, and that export specifically in the Mosaic District is designed so strangely. I don't know what it is like you're trying to leave the the gym we went to and you go downstairs and you think you're going to leave, but then it's a Rockwall. But there's doors.

3:11 But it's like if you leave, out of these doors will strip your membership. And they also have equipment from the 1930s, it seemed like. And it was really interesting that a lot of it was broke. There we go, There we go. I I get sorry, I got, I just got sidetracked and I can't think about anything and I get focused. I'm kind of like a junkyard dog sometimes. Well, that was more of like a a a class based thing, right? No, no, it had it had things and you signed up and they had all this. I remember meme going to that Meme is your your grandmother for non French people, but for seemingly French historian people, meme is what you call the grandmother. Anyway, the curves is where they were into and I think it was probably in the 90s that it was big in 2000s because it it just took off and exploded.

4:08 You know, because of well, you can go there and you don't have to worry about all these men oogling you and trying to be all white and hot and beautiful and all that and that not white but just hot, you know, and it was just very. Well, that was the whole thing. It played to the older middle-aged person and when you think about it. That's a good. Population was population was aging. So you had a lot of people in their 40s and 50s that had money and wanted to look like they were in their 20s and they weren't going to be able to and they really weren't going to actually ever go to the club. So they would go to the club and talk about it and it was it was, it was very, how do you say female based? Yeah, curves are OK and it's OK to be bigger.

4:51 So they didn't have like grunting and all that kind of stuff that you freak out about when you when you go to like men's places and you go like, Oh my God, they're screaming at each other. Oh, he dropped the weights and he went. You're. Like, well, the long the, the longest one that we really went to together was sport and health and sport and health. There was a man in there that every time, because I got really into the gym about 2018-2019 I think is when I started. I lived at home and I was, I was transitioning into doing Community College and I didn't want to go to the Community College gym if you guys were paying $130.00 a month or whatever it was. So I was like, let me go to the nice gym. But there was a man in there just that would scream at the top of his lungs on the AB machine, on the AB machine of everything, not even a compound exercise, right? And I thought that that was, I loved it. I loved it frankly.

5:40 I live for that. I live for people expressing themselves so loudly that other people have to look at them. I think that that is nothing short of joyous. It's a joyous occasion. Well, it's, it's almost like you know. Do you make any noise when you have sex? I don't know you. Know I he probably silenced, probably reversed, but you know what I was thinking about the other day. Imagine you open a he just goes you open a gym, but there's a there's an open bar in the gym. Think about that. There's drink. Carts at every machine so you can make a martini while you're working out. Isn't that a good idea? Heavy machinery and alcohol always kind of bodes well for. See, that's why I don't understand why they don't have like a roving waitresses when you're at gun stores. You should be able to drink in a. Gun Store I.

6:30 Want a drink when I What was that? One we did an episode on. What was it, The fish, the big Oh, bass pro Yeah, Bass Pro I mean, wouldn't it be cool if they had like a person going around with a plate of martinis? I think that'd be great, yeah. Are we still doing? We got to go to Memphis at some point this year. Yes, we do well. That's going to be great. What we need, I need for you to pick a time. Is it going to be, I mean, Memphis is like. More of a summer. Place. September, I don't care. OK, So we're going to do for September, we'll do it for three or four days. Mom, your your mother does not sounds great really have any interest. She doesn't want to stay at the pyramid. She does not wanna stay. I wanna stay. I wanna stay at the best profile. So but we're gonna fly there and they're gonna be like, oh, what are you in down for?

7:14 You. You on a road trip, or you? Yeah, we're on a road trip just. No, me and him flew here to stay at the Pyramid, which I find to be the funniest thing. And we can use my bass pro shops credit card. Okay, but then we're now we're going back into the old episode. We're talking about gyms here. I went to a rock climbing gym for a while. It was six months, seven months. Is that there or is that here? We got a couple here. So there's a Hollywood Boulders, which is the big one here, and that's kind of a subsidiary of a bunch of other gyms called Touchstone Gyms. That's what it is. And the Touchstone Gyms kind of span, I think there's about 8 or 9 in the area and you get membership to one is 130 a month. And then you get to go to all of them. And then you could do top roping or you can do which is the long rope, you know, with the 90 foot ceiling or whatever. Or you can do bouldering, which is what I always did because I'm scared of tying ropes 'cause when I went back to Virginia, I saw Remy and there's this guy that just got certified for Blaine.

8:15 And then he barely passed his blay test, apparently. And this guy said, oh, that's good enough. And and then they were like, he's gonna blay you. And I was like, oh, oh, OK. And then I remember I was up at the top of the wall and he's like, let go, let go from the wall, 'cause you have to, you have to let go 'cause then it, it's easier to get down, right? It's less dangerous. And I was like, man, if I fall like 90 feet onto this mattress, I'm going to not be happy. I'm not going to be happy. But I didn't die. Did you fall? No, no, no, I didn't. No, but I. But the whole idea that they're they're, you know, he was certified in a body and. Barely certified. Yeah, he got certified like the day before he was there. And I was like, Oh my God. Somebody had to be first.

8:55 Right. Yeah, I mean, yeah, I guess you're right. You always got to get certified. So I think about climbing and we, I mean, you remember when we climbed and you were five years old and six years old and we used to go out to Great Falls and climb the climb along the, the river. Yeah. And up and down with the Helmet River. Yeah. Next to the people. That was so funny. I remember we, we were climbing and we were going up and down along the side of the Great Falls where the river comes down and it's like a sheer Rockwall, but it's, it's got a million hand holes in foothold. So it's really like, kind of like walking up and down stairs, you know, with, with all your body. Parts you could walk up. It essentially is what, Yeah. Yeah, yeah. And it wasn't that big a deal, but these, these people had, they had their ropes and they had their helmets and their glasses and gear and they were all cool looking. And Zach and I come around this corner and we're kind of like belaying that we're, we're, we're, we're rock walking along the side of the wall.

9:46 We're finding little paths and hanging on and all that kind of stuff like that. I did not realize at that time that one out of 10 people that falls in dies. Well, the water too is 'cause we used to do this thing where we would blow up the raft on the side at Scotts Run and then we'd forge the river like old western colonial types. And it's so short that, but like the average person drowns in like 4 feet of water or something, right? So it's, that was the thing. We would forge the river and then we, I still want to go down it, dude. I still want to go to Chesapeake. Kind of the whole thing. That'd be sick. Well, we'd have to get one up here and take it down and go go ways and see and go over the dams. And I mean, I'm, I'm cool with that.

10:26 We can rent one and go, you know, if you want me involved. But but, but we can do it. We can do it. We can do it. Yeah. I don't like you either. I don't like you. And Speaking of that, we were talking about gems. And I remember what when you were about five years old, sport and health, the wife used to drop you. We she would go there and I would go there periodically, but she would be there during the day because she was the mom and I was actually working, you know, actually doing stuff that matters. Not like I take care of a kid. It doesn't matter. He's such a sweet guy. That's you. He's such a sweet guy anyway. Anyway, or any who your your mother would drop you off at their place 'cause they have like a a nursery which was you know, and it was kids. But that wasn't sport and health. That was near golfdom.

11:10 That was the gym near next to golfdom. Remember that You know golfdom and Tyson's. Quiet. Oh my God, no. But that was sport and health. That was the original. That was the original sport and health. The other one was, you know, Abu Dhabi, blah blah blah blah blah blah, whatever. It does look like it's an Abu Dhabi. Yeah. And then they and then they grew into it. But that I, yeah, exactly. They had upstairs, the downstairs, they dropped you in the front right to the left there. That area was that gym was gigantic it. Was it was crazy it. It's an REI now. But they had the big nursery there and they dropped you off and they had a nursery that had a like a, a climbing area for you. But you would go in there and there were like two kids, brothers that would gang up on you and and mess with you.

11:54 I never knew you knew about this. That's Oh yeah, yeah, I knew about. That that's pay him to beat the shit out of me. I think that's. What it is but, but it's, you know, 'cause we would taunt you and we wanted you to be tough, so we would hit you with boards with nails in them, you know, 'cause that way we'd toughen your skin up. But the. And that, that's where my infamous. Well, if somebody pushes, you punch him in the face. And, and I, I think it's around that time that I may have said that and I don't know if I regret it or not. You know, 'cause people say, oh, you should, you should negotiate and understand and do all this stuff. And, and, and I'm not sure. I mean, in your life, is it, is it been better?

12:34 Is is that been more of a Well, actually it's been a big detriment 'cause I like had to. I've seen you wipe out crowds of people and when they when they, when they snapped your. I always think I would have been a good boxer, you know, your reasonableness, but that's something I wish I got into when I was a kid. Is being trained as a boxer 'cause I think I would have been, really. Hardest thing in the world, I mean, got to be got to be the hardest thing in the. World I think I would have been really good at it but at the same time we're going to start your second book coming out here. Watch out for this everybody in the next 6 months. Child Rearing by Phil Brown, and I think that that that's going to sell really well. Chapter one, punch him in the face. Chapter 2, kick him in the shins. Chapter 3 Take No.

13:20 No, there was never a kick him in the shins. It would never be kick him in the. IT really was no kick him in the. Shins it was. Punch him in the face. I guess you can if you do it like those Roundhouse kicks when you kick somebody in the leg. Those are just brutal. Oh well, The thing is, is it takes 10 lbs of pressure to turn your knee backwards. Well, I hear. That all the time, but you need a perfect hit to do that usually. What you're going to do is you kick them in the sidekick even. Really hard, as hard as I can. And I use the top of my foot and I kick you in your thigh. You will fall to your knees and you will cry and you will not be able to move. OK. I mean, when you look at like Joe Rogan to them where they do that, what do they call that kick?

14:01 Like the sidekick? Yeah, the leg kick, that looks like it hurts so bad. You ever had your leg kicked even softly? That looks like it hurts so bad. I saw some guy. My chiropractor slapped me in the side of my leg and I just screamed. And he said, yeah, I was in a fight once, said I was a notorious brawler when I make my teens and stuff. And he said, and I did this and I'm sitting there and this guy, you know, let's go and he Hicks me. He kicks me in my thigh. Like he does those sidekicks that they do on MMA and he does really hard and I and it hit me and I dropped on my knees and I and I, they were like my eyes teared. It was so painful.

14:45 I could tear your ACL too if it kicks the side of the knee like that. No, he didn't. Do the knee, he did the thigh. Oh. My gosh. You know, the upper thigh or the calf, if you kick the calf or the the pain that comes from that muscle if it's not trained to take a kick, I don't have to think about it. If I just hit you. Remember when you touched me on my thighs and I used to scream? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Can you imagine if you kicked me? Oh my gosh, I would just poke you in the thigh. I remember that cause well. That's what he was doing. He's like, what the Hell's wrong with you? And it's like there's something wrong with you. I don't know what. We haven't stretched in about 65 years, no. No, I stretch all the time now. Well, now for the first time in 65 years, but it's too. Yeah, that's the thing.

15:29 Nah, Nah. You said they're just going to snap. You know, you don't worry about it and they snap. We'll glue them back together or we'll do they don't snap all the way so you can just exercise like my ankle and my knees, but all that. But Planet Fitness is what I used to go to and college because and during the college times at UVA, you had to reserve a gym slot and there was about 30,000 undergraduates that wanted to also reserve gym slots because everybody wanted to commit suicide at that time. And so I never served it. Exactly. It was COVID. You were. In school and the only time you could go to to gym is when you had a Oh my God. Needed a reservation. It was like months in advance because and I was like, I'm not going to work out once every four months. Like that's just, I'm not going to do it at all then. So what I would do is I just went to the Planet Fitness because Virginia was still pretty lackadaisical and got a gym membership there and just started working out there. And I think that's how I got COVID five times, I'm pretty sure.

16:24 But I remember you. Yeah, I remember when you came back here and went. You and I went to Planet Fitness over in Bailey's Crossroads. Yeah, a couple. Of months, yeah. I mean, I've been in so many different gyms with you, it's like, wow, I started. I mean what about avid exerciser for about 6 years now 6 or 7? Years. Well, you and I did the gem on Galapagos, remember? Oh, that was what? On the boat or the one that. Was in the boat. Oh OK. The one in keto was built in the 1980s. That one. Yeah, remember that one? We went to that one too. That was. It. It, it was a, how I mean, it was, it was a, it was like almost a, a building square. It was huge. It had three million pieces of equipment in it.

17:07 It had six people. Yeah, there's no and there. And we were. We needed to pay to get it into to a hotel gym which I was like what is? Well, we paid, we paid. We just added 15-A head, a head for. Whatever in your life. I thought that was crazy. I was like, we were playing paying to be at a a Johnny Walker. What is it? Hyatt or something? Hyatt by Johnny Walker or? Something. No, I think it's Marriott. Or Johnny Walker, Marriott. Whatever it is. Whatever. Johnny Walker was on the front, because I remember that. You know they have Johnny Walker Hotels in the USI didn't know that. Was that that was you and I coming back from Galapagos, or was that? That was going, that was going that. Was going OK. And then the boat one was cool. I mean, you had so. Tiny. You had a one machine and then you had two treadmills and then.

17:49 But you got to look out over the ocean, which is cool. Yeah. And then the one in Antarctica was a rowing machine and then a treadmill with no wind in a windowless room, and it was 90° in there. And I was like, you know what? I'm not going to work out. I think I'm good. I think I'm good for the two weeks. Yeah, I think that was. Crazy. Well, we just what we did is we we substituted our drinking for working out. I think we already had a, we already had a good time of drinking and then we added another two hours of drinking a day to fix, you know, to fix our non workout schedule. Did we get that drunk in Antarctica? I don't think we did more so Galapagos, Galapagos. No, Galapagos was just a sloppy that was so bad.

18:32 Waking up with bruises all over your body. I was like, I don't see you walk to the bathroom. I was like, you were purple. You were like an Oompa Loompa or something. I was like, what happened? You're like, I don't know. I don't know what happened. I don't know what's bad, what happened. I don't know. Oh my God. Oh my God, the bartender the next day I was like, did you see us fall down the stairs? And he's like, no. So my my theory is that you rolled out of bed in the middle of That's what I thought. I thought so too, because remember, we're on a boat and it's doing this during the night and and you're always like, and then you get hammered and you're on a boat and it's like. We don't really remember either of you roll out of bed. It's kind of interesting.

19:17 Well, if you're asleep and then you're in the air and then you hit the ground, then you know that somehow you got there. And when you're hammered, you just kind of get up and get back in bed and you don't give a shit. And then the next morning you're like, my God, I don't know what I did, but it hurts. And you look around and you see bruises and broken bones and shit and you're like, that's not good. Well, that was like, what was I going to say? That's. When Carlos started watching us. Yeah, Carlos is. Well, that's how we met Carlos because he was like, please don't jump over the side when you get too drunk. And I said OK. But then he came and visit us for two weeks in in America. And he was telling he was funny when I picked him up, he's like, yeah, my mom was telling me you guys were going to steal my organs.

19:58 I was like, no. And then we didn't steal. You were until he told us that. But funny enough, he met, we got, he got to see where his dad went to College in Annapolis, which is crazy. And then he got to go to New York. We got to go to New York and he saw a woman that he hadn't seen in five years and then he had a child with her. So I think that that's really cool. And the weirdest part is that there's an F Scott's Fitzgerald quote that you sent me on my phone and this was like 4 years ago. And I walk into her apartment and that quote is on the wall. And I thought that that was the weirdest thing in the world. That's right. You told me that and then you were like, man, maybe I should go out with her and I. Was like, I don't seems like you're well. That's when you know you're in the right place. Doing the right thing, I think, is when everything points to an experience that is well. Isn't positive and reinforcement in general? What the action of coincidence?

20:48 Well, the action of feeling good about what you're doing, where you're going. I mean, I was talking to, I, I do a weekly call with a buddy of mine that, for lack of a better word, is the Vagabond Bushka. And he's, he just did the Latvian countries. And now he's going to do, I mean, he's telling me like, I think I'm going to go, I haven't been to Ireland in a while and I'm going to go to Istanbul. I'm going to go to Turkey. And, and he's going to start doing it. He's just going to hop on the train and go. And he said, because I don't really have anything holding me here because this is a rental place and all my stuff stored. And I have, you know, and then the wife kind of headed back here for the summer. So he's got like 2 months and he's going to hit like 15 countries and he's just going to be somebody that's like out of high school going there. So it's kind of interesting because of the differences. And I'm like, wow.

21:33 Because that's me. That was being Christian. When we were in Mongolia, I was like, we're already out here. You want to go to Seoul? And he's like, yeah. And then we went to Seoul. Saw Jing Chang, Jing Chung. Jing Chung. Jing Chung, you know, was a middle school friend of Christians that he hadn't seen in like 8 or 9 years. And who did you see? I saw Thomas Clark, who I hadn't seen in five years, and he's like, what are you doing here? So funny. It's like I was, I, I, I, I was already over here. I committed 7 felonies. I've run out of the country, they're chasing me and I thought I would just naturally go to Thomas Clark's house. I keep saying, you know what's funny is when I get back and I people are like, oh, where have you been? I always say, well, I've been travelling abroad now, like abroad to where I'm like to Virginia. But I think intrinsically, when we think about public gyms, I mean, you're in the pandemic, right? You put in a private gym.

22:25 So think about that. I mean, I no longer had to go to the gym for a long time. I could just go in the basement. But I did go to the Planet Fitness during College in times. But when I would come back, that kind of changed your life, didn't it? Oh, yeah, yeah, I think the I think probably the one of the the best things I ever did for my health was to make the stuff at home. And I took I started out, I only used one Bay of the garage. It really it started with you living in this room and you, you buying some weights and you bought that. You bought the the Crouch thingy. I bought them off, what was it the, the Craigslist and then with Sam McCarty of all people. And then I, well, I was telling him, like, if the guy wants us to go into his basement, we won't buy it. And then as soon as we get there, he says, well, the bench press is in my basement.

23:17 And I was like, well, I'm all right. And so we go down in there and his son or his nose, his nephew had recently given up on collegiate rowing. And then I said, all right, well, if his dream is gone, mine still exists. So I bought a bench press for $200. It converts into a squat rack. And then that's where we got that from, which was originally up in the the cottage house. And then and then we started like moving the stuff down and we moved it downstairs to 1 Bay. We filled up the one Bay with stuff. And then I bought the pulley machine and I think that that really set me off because it was like, I could go there and I could do the pulleys and the pulleys was like, it was like 1500 bucks. It wasn't like $5000.

23:59 And it's got a, it's got a, a bar across the top. It's got the. Cable machine. Cable machine, cable pulley, same thing. Come on, get. Me and that's essentially is just a pulley, isn't it? Yeah, yeah. So it's, it's, and that is probably got like 50 different exercises you can do from your ankles to your eyebrows all the way up, everything from face pulls to curls to. And then I started buying stuff like I got the big bar that goes behind me so I can do the rear delts because I have a crappy back. And I mean, just so many different things. And I think in, in when you're working out in gym, you, you get tired of the same routine.

24:40 So you're always looking for new and unusual things. You know what I mean? It's like, it's like you want to change. And so it started out being 1/4 of the Bay, half of the Bay. And then it's like, I just want enough room in here to park my car. So my wife has a convertible Audi, you know, like a 2013 and it's, it's worth $1,000,000 or I don't know, 5000, something like that. And she wanted to park it in the winter 'cause she's worried about the roof. It's worth. About I think 4 grand now. Yeah, but slowly but surely, this selfish fuck just squished her out, you know, And I took the whole garage. I said, hey, you have a studio. And I like, I don't need more. A little kid lives in it now. And so that's exactly your voice too, right now. And.

25:22 You love portraying women properly, don't you? That's your thing. But she moved up to a studio upstairs in the house because she took your old bedroom and made it into her studio. And her studio is really wild looking. You know, she used to have it out here where she made glass. But we did it down there. We did the gym and I just kept adding stuff to it because it's like, oh, I want something new. I want something new. And I get another bench and then, you know, with the pulley machine. And then we had weight racks and we had all the little tiny dumbbells and it was like, and so now and, and, and probably more than anything else, if I get in there, I work out and it's in my garage and my garage is not attached to my house. It's like 30 feet away.

26:04 So it's really, really, really hard for me to go too many days without going in that in the gym and working out. And because when you're in there, it's like, well, I'm here, I'm retired, I don't do anything. So an hour is like nothing. And, and then I went through all the physical ailments that I had in the spring and everything and it that kind of like that was more recent, but this happened what, two years ago 3. Years ago? What happened two years ago? We started we did the gem when COVID hit right? Pandemic I think well not really because it was started it. I bought the bench press 20/18/2018 right 2019 20/19/2019 yeah 201829 Summer of 2018 I want to. Say, yeah, we were sitting, we were still getting blind drunk in, in the pandemic downstairs in the I had not removed the smoking thing and all that kind.

26:59 Of stuff 'cause it wasn't. Well, the gym equipment was upstairs, that's why, right? Yeah. And so, so I didn't feel like that I could, I could come in 20. 18 summer of 2018 I think is when I got that bench press right. And, and you physically, your body changed, you know, you became Mr. Hall. Well, I was a skateboarder too, which really, it was great cardio too, which I really need to get back into. I really need to start doing that again. But yeah. And then when do we move everything down? I think 2021 right, 2021 so we. Did we set it up? Pandemic kind of deal. And I bought all these rubber mats, like the little square put together, charcoal things, whatever, so you have a place to stand on and all that kind of stuff.

27:44 That's when I got the pulley machine and then it really just took off. And I think that it's really added a lot to me physically because I feel I feel drawn to it every day or two. I really want to go every day. But you know, I'm so busy doing nothing that it that it makes it difficult to get out there. It's because you you feel like a lazy piece of garbage. For me that's kind of what I feel like because it's been 6 years, 6-7 years and if I don't work out I feel like a piece of shit. You feel better. You feel like feel better. Just end it all, you know, I think it you get. Yeah, I think that I am. And for a long time there, I would get up in the morning, drink my 3 cups of coffee, be ready to go, be jumpy as hell. And you'd be like, get away from me. And I go out in the gym and I work it off for I was doing, I do about 8 different exercises, two to three. I was doing 5 sets of each one, but I was only doing 10. And I was doing heavier weights.

28:39 And then each time I would switch. And now, now post torn tendon and ankle Achilles and all that, now I'm back to I'm doing 7. I did 8 yesterday and I won't do any today. I did a lot of walking today. I did the hike with Jose and we did it's 2 1/2 miles and it goes up and over a hill. It's in Great Falls. Oh yeah, the mile and a half one. Yeah, I know you're. Talking then then I came home and the wife has this on a weekly class on Qi Dong which is QIDONG if you want to make something filthy out. Of chi I think does. Isn't that chi?

29:21 Yeah, well, it's all about your chi. It talks too. Qi is pronounced chi, I'm pretty sure. OK, so maybe it is chi, if I remember. Yeah, you. Yeah, she talks about chi all the time and how you got to get your chi out in this end and you get a balance to your third. I. And you know, and then you work on your, your, I mean for me more than anything, since I am like, I am tight, I'm a really, really full strand rubber band that this really loosens me up. You are you are the the most lactic acid man in the world, even of lactic acid for five to six people. Yeah, well, I think it's the the, the booze for 40 years or. 50 I think it is the booze for 40 years. But you've always been a water drinker, right? Which is interesting.

30:03 I drink water all the time and then in between when I'm not drinking. Well, the problem is I drink, I drink water, booze, iced tea, beer, wine, exactly the same. There is no difference. So which is, which is there's no like slow down. Oh, you're, you're drinking 130 proof bookers. And it's like, yeah, yeah. There isn't really a difference between water and liquor for you, I have to say that. Yeah, because you're always like, don't you enjoy it? And I said, well, you enjoy water. And it's like, yeah, I guess. But I do enjoy water. I'm not going to lie, I do enjoy that. But you don't. I don't understand how there's people out there that say I don't like the taste of water and then they need like a 25 calorie crystal light in it. Those people I will never understand. I don't get it.

30:54 I I simply don't get it because I really do at the end of the day, enjoy the taste of water more than anything. I think that that is. Tequila's a close second. That is, the only kind of evidence of God that I've seen in the entire universe is how good water tastes. Oh, I thought you were talking about the tequila. The. Oh, and that and that tequila. The 1942. Tequila is. Oh my God, you don't even need ice. You hardly need ice. Well, that was Pappy's was the same way. You know, the first time he's had a sip, you're like, what's the big deal? And then you get and then when you get a water glass of it and you take a drink and you're like, oh, this, this is. Really is same thing with the vodka Red Bull of rail vodka and and a nice sugar free Red Bull. Yeah, it reminds me of all the times like puked and alleys it reminds.

31:44 It really makes you want to throw up like I I really don't know what it is which it really makes you. I think I'm allergic to taurine cause about after the 1st 13 vodka Red Bulls I woke up the next morning not feeling so great. And well, I feel like there's there should be a certain lethal dose of vodka Red Bulls right? Because if you drink enough caffeine it'll kill you. But how much caffeine is too much caffeine Is the the real question. Yeah, when you when you start to go Yeah, I I get those when I drink too much. I can feel and and as a as a former amphetamine user in my, you know, post high school days, pre real college days, I remember I get the little I I get the bugs running through the hair with Stacey Makers through scalp sweating.

32:33 This is sweat. I know crystal meth guys will relate to me on that one, but. Yeah, by the way, if any of you smoke crystal meth out there, feel free to contact us at our PO Box. And it's 18. Send us your favorite samples. 65 N Hollywood Way, 9006 please. The blue or just the same Blue Man? That's right, he. Can't he can't beat that. I don't know. I I mean it's not. Clear. It all looks like ice. That's why it's called ice. But as I digest here, what other what other gyms have you been to? I mean. What I think about the gyms, when we first started, when I was first dating your mother, and we moved in together. We moved in together after like seven months. I mean, it was like we proposed.

33:23 After six, right? No, I didn't propose. I think you did. I didn't propose until I went to the track and then she was kind of freaked out that I did. But I asked all these guys and every single person said don't get married. It's stupid. You shouldn't be married, and they're all married for like 20 years. It was just so comical. The track is in is in the dog track or what a. Horse track. We went to the horse track and we won some money or something lost. They got dog tracks in West Virginia. Yeah, that's kind of, I don't know. Why is that bad but the horse track isn't bad? They're. Both bad. They're both bad, just they're horrible to the animals. They're just like the animals are like the jockeys. They're pieces of meat to be used to make entertained people and then thrown aside as soon as they're injured or wounded.

34:07 Well, my thing, the jockeys. Could. You how could you critique animal cruelty at a track or any other way when you're eating meat? That's what my question is. It's like as a society, like if you're vegan and you're and you're having kind of disgruntlement towards animal treatment, whether it be on the horse track or in the in the for food, that makes sense. But I don't know when you eat meat, do you really have any ground to stand on for animal cruelty? I don't. I don't really know. Well, if you're a hypocrite and see, I'm a hypocrite, so that's OK. Hypocrisy is the new drug of 2025. I I got to tell you it it feels great. The high has never been better. And yeah, I think I'm going to keep chugging hypocrisy here.

34:50 Well, you also got to think about, I mean, we were talking earlier about the gem and it's the one thing I was thinking about is like, what about pet peeves? Is there things that people do at the gem that just like they should do like? Use more than one machine at once. I I had one funny, really kind of weird. The guy had set up a circuit. I didn't know this in a circuit was he was like he was doing sit ups on a ball and then he was doing pull ups and then he was doing curls and then he was doing another thing. And then he was coming over and running on the end machine. And I went to the end machine and it you know, it was it was there and had a towel right here, you know, just a balled up towel like somebody left it behind, which you know, that is pet peeve leaving your shit behind us.

35:35 And but I just set it up and he had it and he had it connected and I disconnected it and I kind of had an idea that it might have been subset number six for him. And then he comes over and he gives me this look like I was using that machine. And I was like, and I was like 4 minutes into my run. So and I just kind of looked at him and I said, oh, I've been running here for a bit. I'm sorry, I didn't know that I can move. No, you don't have to move now. It's all changed. And I was like, OK. Those people are the worst.

36:17 I think that they should be sentenced to death. There was one guy who is morbidly obese, about 200 and 52160 lbs. Not that I have an issue with people who are morbidly obese, but people that are morbidly obese taking up four machines really pissed me off. And I remember at the Planet Fitness there was this guy and it was a cable machine, right? You know, like the cable towers now there's like 1 cable machine on each two sides of the tower, right? Because it's, it's 4 sided, right? It wraps around, right. The ones that are connected to another 4 tower kind of thing. He was using all four cable machines. And I was like, this is crazy. This is this is crazy. It's it's selfish. It's, it's insane because, well, you have no power at the job that you work at.

37:00 So then you go to something where you pay $10 a month and you have some sort of small amount of power. It's kind of like when somebody gets a jacket that says security on it and it seems like they can be slave owners. And it's really upsetting to to see that in the society. I mean, we go back to the Stanford prison experiment and that's pretty much what that is. You've. Seen a lot of a lot of a lot more people seem to be coming out as being more judgmental to what's going on in society today and. Judgmentalism of what? Well, they broke the law. They should go. And you're just like. Oh, yeah, there's a lot of people that want to sentence other people to death.

37:42 And I think that's that's why I mean, everybody's intrinsically terrible. We're all terrible human beings. And there's really. No, me and you are good and sometime I have doubts. About well, I'm the best, I'm the I'm not just good, I'm the best, but. Well, not according to my studies. I don't know, according to mine I'm the best. That's good, that's good. You do your own independence. Other pet peeves when I see a guy that is, and usually it's never a fat guy. It's usually like Mr. Bulky Guy and he lays down on the bench press and he does his, you know, monster 4 benches of £3,000,000. And then he gets up and it's a sweat mark all the way down and he walks away and he leaves, you know, the 150 or 200 lbs on the rack.

38:33 And I'm just like, and I'm thinking, is he coming back? And then I go and I do my curls and I look back over and he didn't do it. And I'm just like, OK, whatever. And you know, you just take them off and you don't say anything. And just like, and then you got to wipe the machine down. And I am, I don't mind if you're not. I mean, I think it's funny because I always see like little tiny, pristine women that are exercising there that aren't sweating at all. And they are like disinfecting every square inch of every piece of equipment they touch. And then before and after they get get on it and when they get off of it. And they don't really need to because they're not really. But then I see people that are that are, you know, they just sweat.

39:15 If you say sweat and they lay down on a machine and their back sticks to it through their shirt and they leave it. And I can't. I just. That is just. I don't know, I enjoy it. Well, the one, what was the one Jim we went to was really good. Ryze. Ryze. Yeah, that one was really Rockwall in there too. They had AI mean the, the, the roof was 70 feet, 80 feet high. It was, it was really high. So it you had a big opening and all the equipment, every single piece of equipment had a spray, clean bottle and strag next to it so you could actually clean the equipment. Yeah, the microfiber tile.

39:57 Well, I love that. That might be the nicest gym I've ever been inside of. Yeah, and it was just like, this is just a pleasure to go to. Even when it was full, there was still, there was no matter what I did, there was open equipment and I and weirdly, weirdly, we would go there during the summer when we were up there, we would buy our, you could buy like 20 sessions and then go whenever you could go and then get your ticket punched and do that there. They take it off on the computer. But but the cool thing is, is that I didn't have I, I don't remember anybody hogging machines. It's just, it just it wasn't. People that went there actually worked out, that's why. Right.

40:40 They were very, very cognizant. You would see a guy do curls on the coral bar 'cause it was, they had a really cool curl bar thing that I really working on my upper muscles and stuff like that, 'cause I, I wanted to be something other than chicken arms. And, and I see the guy working out and he's, he's a sweater. Soon as he puts the bar, he walks the bar over the rack, walks back the machine, sprays it, wipes it, does everything, puts it down and then walks off. And I'm like, oh, and then I go and I work out and I do mine. And then he comes back because he's doing a rotation and he does another set. After I'm done, he does another set of curls, soaks the damn thing down, sprays it, cleans it, walks away, goes to do his other set.

41:25 And I'm like whoa, not like expecting it to be not touched because it has shit all over it. Sticky, slimy, sweaty, whatever body fluid. We love cognizant people and I was just like. I almost wanted to just like, thank you man, you know? Foam to the men's locker room. You know, I never know. Yeah, but it was just. They had so many great machines there, so much I that that to me was it's the probably the best gym I've ever been. That's the best gym I've ever been inside of. Ryze in Raho with beach Delaware. Go check it out. By far looking for sponsorships even though we can't really use the membership. But Ryze if you're out there, please sponsor us. So we really don't want anything from it.

42:07 I don't know. Yeah, send us some vitamin water. Send us Yeah, send us a. You know why we don't clean our equipment here? Favorite Vitamin Water flavor? Me, yeah, I don't drink it. I I don't, I mean, I wouldn't I? Used to drink it when I was an adolescent and I got to say the dragon fruit flavor was so good. Really. Oh my God, that one was is it blue? No, it's dragon fruit is kind of like a pink. OK. And the Triple X, which was an anti antioxidant one. That was the last one that came out that I can remember from 2013. No, that was like, yeah, it was like 2013 actually. But the dragon fruit flavor. Oh, wow. Yummy, yummy.

42:48 That was good. I like that a lot. No, that was really, really good. Flavor I've always been a a a lover of fireballs for me. That's not a Vitamin Water flavor. The original Fireball was that I would just pop one in my mouth and it would last like a jawbreaker. Like a what are they like super cinnamon and and they burn and I put that in and then I could go work out for an hour and then it was just, it would work down to just what was like this big, you know, and I wouldn't bite it. You should just start dipping instead. It was the same thing. It was kind of like. I'm going to work out. My dip was a ball that would get in my throat and kill me. That's even better. Yeah, you know, that's what it was. It was started out that way, but by the end of it, it was just a tiny little thing that would just tap my tonsils or whatever but.

43:33 I'll never forget when I got my wisdom teeth out and I try to throw a lip in the same day and that was really dumb. That was really dumb. Wouldn't do that. Wouldn't recommend doing that. I had my wisdom teeth taken out and this is back when they didn't have any limitations on the drugs they gave you. And they gave me a bottle of Percocet and I had what year was it? My God, this is probably, this is 80s like 8483, something like that. And I was, I had, I had taken I think four or five because I'm like, you know, you're saying, hey, it says take two. And I said, well, that's four for Phil because I have a, you know, big drug tolerance, but not always. And each time I take a new drug and I'm like, man, I didn't have any tolerance with this one, did I? Well, I did that.

44:28 But The thing is, is I I remember I had AAI had beers and I was having a tall boy and I was drinking Bud tall boy and then or maybe stroves, maybe stroves tall boy. Then that was in the early days of before stroves got bought by Schlitz and turn into shits, you know, but I remember that and I was sitting in the I had a the the we had a recliner in the basement. I was leaning back on the recliner and I had to use the bathroom and I'm just talking to myself and I was talking to myself at that point. Can't figure out why my teeth. I got the funny mouth and I I had the Percocet and I'm drinking the beer, which is really stupid. OK, just to let you know, that's just asking for dumbassery to happen.

45:13 And I was deciding whether or not I should get out of the chair to go pee. And then I was thinking like, you know, I could probably just throw a towel on the floor and pistol on it from here. And I was trying to. I mean, it was just. So, so just bad thoughts. Very, very bad thoughts, you know. Like the one experience I had when I thought I broke my neck, they gave me a Vicodin at the hospital and I I could barely walk. Wow. I was like, oh, my God. Like my feet. Yeah. Yeah, I just had one. And, well, that also, if you ever take a hydromorphine small pink pill, I took one of those one time.

45:54 Well, you feel like you're melting through the couch. It's crazy. You and the couch are one. It's a. Beautiful. Now you've got a new drug that I need. To do so well, next episode you're going to, it's going to be crafting A lifelong heritage with Phil and Zach. Heroin edition. We're going to shoot up heroin on the next episode. I don't have a problem with smoking it, but I I I have a weird thing about sticking a needle in my. Arm I I thought we were going to share a needle. I thought that that's kind of the deal. Just keep it in the. Family are you HIV? Because if you're not, you will be. I used to be not anymore, but not anymore. You got that anymore. Not anymore, but so this was a great episode on Jim's.

46:37 What, what do we have for time here? Well, what other we're at like 25 minutes. We're we're, this is the second-half of the first half because we had a power outage here at the the Brown Studios. Yeah, I got to edit these together now. He's always making me work. I. Don't know. Yeah, get out of bed. Toilet head. Maybe you should looking in the background there. Maybe you should clean up your room a little bit. You know, it's pretty. Clean in there. Am I going to want? Look at this man. This is I mean, this whole room is wow, just. Yeah, it's always clean when I leave. Yeah, here, here, here, here. Yeah, Yeah, here we got. To do that, let's see it, then you're going to pick the couch. Let's see it. There we go. Oh. Yeah, I see it. Look at that. Look at the bed. Look at the mirror there. The that. Yeah, your mother.

47:18 Looks like that. Is so disgusting she really and then we used. It for that purpose. Highlights. And then you go here, and then here he is again. So you see the old man this. Is this is the Brown studio? The toilet's over there. Over there? No, it's over there, over there, suit. It's on the other side of that and there's your little wet bar there and the TV. Is that a? Is that considered a wet bar, or is that just a sink? It's just, it's just a sink. I call it a wet bar 'cause it sounds cooler. I love the sound. Like we looked at an apartment a couple years ago that actually had a full wet bar in the bedroom and I thought that was so sick. I thought that was so imagine keeping your liquor in with a full sink. That other thing I don't.

48:01 Need that? Well, that's just like a place to vomit, I mean. Pretty much pretty. Much do we really need that kind of encouragement? I mean, there's, there's things that, you know, is a is a lifelong drinker that, that you have to think at some point that you need to make things that are bad for you a little less accessible. Did you ever drink morning liquor? Did you ever do a morning liquor? Kind of. Thing oh gosh, that's that's the last time I went to Vegas, but Jeff and I were there and he got he. Oh yeah, yeah. Yeah, he he ordered the the 36 ounce. What do you call them? Bloody? Yeah, double S. 36 ounce How big is I don't even know how big. It's like, it's like containers like this, they may have been 24.

48:46 I might be exaggerating and you know that I exaggerate all the time. So there's any order? Two of them. It's 7:30 in the morning with like a it was a $250 breakfast. OK. We had been up till, I had been up till 2 the night before and I was passed out in the other room. We were in a giant suite at not Bellagio, but the other one, the one that overlooks the sphere. So I am, I don't know, Palacio, Palampolo, whatever. Yeah, one of those. It's, it's Italian 1, whatever. Is it Caesar's? Is that what you talking? About no, no, it wasn't the Caesar's. It's it's it's cooler, it's newer and all. That. No, that's the different one that the. Flamingo. No.

49:29 No. Desert Inn. No. What was the other one? Oh, it's a, it's a gold miners or something. He lost my you're trying to lose my train of thought. Anyway, he orders the breakfast. I I mean I didn't get up till 10 and he is just shit faced. It was so funny. So I'm like immediately I got to catch up and he's like, I got to take a nap. So he has to take a nap at 10:00 in the morning. Well, that's when I went down to the, that's when I went to the casino because I brought my Social Security. My first Social Security check was $25132. I only took 2500 to Vegas and I put it all on black and I doubled my money and the guy goes, you going to let it ride? And I'm going like Nope.

50:13 And I have 5 grand and I'm walking out of there and I'm thinking like I would rob me right now. Well, people, that goes. In hundreds, man, it's $5100 bills. That's pretty cool. It's a stack. I mean, it was just like, whoa, this is so cool, you know? And then I went up and I immediately put in the safe and I think I pissed away probably a grand over the next two or three days, but not much. I'm not a gambler. I I just do it it for like, wow, that's cool, you know? I don't enjoy it. I'm not a big gambler guy, Never. I I I enjoy win, but that doesn't that doesn't happen often you. Know that happens about never for me when. We went to the Derby and we won that $968 win, and then the time before I went to the Derby, I had a on what was it? Seth's death.

51:03 Death they bet was for the Derby race was like, what was it was like 26126 because he, he, I think he, what was the date 6612? I forgot whatever tax day, No 415 I did 145. That was the day he died on. And I bet that because he when he was alive was a horse person and we would go to the track occasionally and he would bet and then he was a, you know, that kind of thing. And he bet my, my when he bet my father's death date after he died, he won like 900 bucks. And then he bet my mother's death date when she died and he won like, you know, 7 or 800 bucks. And I was like, that's a message. So I went and did it and I got like, I think it was 1278. I that number sticks in my head for some reason. But if you use 8IN in a statement, it's a lie. So it's it was 12721276 something like that. I was shocked, but I was just like, thanks dude, that's great. It was so funny because it's a 145 mint and you know, it's like, and I still have, I have a copy. I took a picture of it and everything like that turned it in and I had to fill out a tax form because anything over 1000 you need, you need to report.

52:30 They report it there like OK, whatever you want to do, I don't care. I'm not going to pay taxes on it anyway. I'm That's so ridiculous. And I'm a, I'm a fraudster. But no, I, I, I, I, I I strongly believe in paying taxes. I do that, yeah. I'm good at that. Me as well, I believe in being your type. Mine got recepted or received? That's really good. Yeah. Yeah. No penalty. Yeah, we could. We could talk eons about taxes. I can tell you all the stories. I have a lot of stories on taxes. Maybe the next episode now. Yeah, maybe the next episode will do Taxes, man. I dropped this gingerbread London tower that was a gift to me about one minute after somebody handed it to me and it snapped off. I bought glue for it though, so that's good. Did you eat it?

53:11 No, no, he's still here. He's just broken apart. All right, well, we'll talk to you next week. Thank you guys for listening. Do your squats. Do your squats, go to the gym. Go to a gym you like. Don't go to a gym you hate. That's my advice. Any sort of routine that you can keep consistent is a good routine, all right. I work out more when you come here because having a partner makes all the difference in the world. It sure does. So that's a cool thing to remember, having a partner. To keep you honest, to keep you honest and keep you true to yourself. All right, we'll talk to you later. Bye. Bye underwear daily. Daily, whether you. Think you need it or not? That's a good idea. That's a good idea. Bye bye.