Episode 103: Bass Pro Shop

0:09 Hey everybody, welcome back to a record of my Father's Day. We're going to be talking about bass pro I recently they assessed. Pro Shop. Yeah, they recently I went in there on my trip to San Francisco and they said if we do a hard credit pull, you can get a free ad. And I said fucking A. All right. Sounds great. If you do a hard what? Credit pull. So basically if you're like eligible for their credit card, you can have a free hat. So basically they gave me a free hat because I was eligible for the card. Didn't think they were. Basically, you basically basically what? I don't you know what, episode 1. What is this one O 4 now is? I think it's too many. I think I'm done and I don't think I need to talk to you anymore.

0:50 I think that we're at we're at a level where I, I'm done with this and I'm turning it into a record of my Zack. And today, today is needle. Zack Day Needle. I'm just following the rules, dude. I, I don't know, man. That's just the way it is. What? What was the last week? Birthdays. Yeah. Now we were doing skin care and you came out and started talking about bass. I think the funniest thing is, is that we start out these episodes with the idea that we're going to do something and we'll start. Usually we actually the first sentence or 2 is about that topic, but but we were talking about skin care and then it's like oh, and then you just pop on a Bass Pro Shops and I was just like. OK, my question is when did Cabela's acquire bass pro Because if you look at this, they send me the, this junk mail kind of it's about earning points, right, 'cause I have the bass pro shops credit card.

1:40 We'll review kind of what's going on here. So that's a 9% APR. And then also you have a chance to earn points for Cabela's items, right? Like you get earn points like for instance this the. Way it was, The chain was founded by Richard N Cabela and Jim Cabela in 1961. Cabela's was acquired by Springfield, MO based Bass Pro Shops in 2017 and it's been a subsidiary ever since. The brand retail locations feature wildlife exhibits and outdoor other things. It's a really cool place to go visit. Living is. I, I mean, I go in it, but it's like it's, it's, I feel like I need to buy a gun to shoot something, but I'm not. Well, I mean, yeah, well, I just came up with this idea where I would go in and I wanted to buy a handgun, right. But I wouldn't like want to test them by hand feel. I'd want to test them by mouth feel. And I think that that would be the funniest thing that you could possibly do.

2:40 Yeah, no, no, I, I mean I need one with a smaller grip so I can get it all the way around. Otherwise it's not. Exactly that That's. Kind of what I was thinking about. Do you have a rifle? I can work with my toe, you know, so when you're holding the barrel in your mouth, you can, you can pull the trigger with your toe. What about a line of shotguns named after Kurt Cobain songs? Kind of you know, that wouldn't be a bad idea. I mean, they could they should hire me. What is the what was that thing? And thank you for smoking. That was the three Rs or something like the the the smoking industry, the alcohol industry and then the arms industry or the guns industry. You remember that? And they talked about how they're the worst and how they all 'cause like 75% of the deaths in the US And I think that that I could go automobiles. That guy.

3:30 Yeah, I don't. Thank you for smoking. Great movie. Harvey Dent was in that movie. Remember Batman Begins, not Begins, but Batman. The Dark Knight Rises. Yeah, no, that was a good movie. But back to Cabela's, I mean. Cabela's are Bass Pro shops cause Bass Pro shops is now who they are. Well, they're all the same thing. It's all the same thing I'm pretty sure now. No, it's not the same. Thing. No, you don't think so. Some are owned by Missouri, some are owned by Canada. I don't know. Yeah. When I go into them, they all seem about the same to me, except I think you know what it's dependent upon. It's dependent upon the aquarium. Do you think that there's aquariums in the Cabela's and not in the bass pro That's my. I mean, the coolest thing I ever saw it was when I went to what's that little clothing store shop, the one out of John Deere or something like that. I can't remember the name of it.

4:20 Clothing, Clothing. Where's clothes? No, it's, it's like old people, old people, old people. It was enticing. LL Bean. Yes, LL Bean, they had a bass pond in there. I missed that. That's what. I was just like, Oh my God, you have a bass pond. I could catch bass here. This would be really easy because I could see them. The water out of that, when they took the water out of that, that's when I realized that childhood in adolescence never existed anymore because there's no more fun in the mall. It's not like there's these cool interactive things like Rainforest Cafe. What happened to Rainforest Cafe? I'm here asking the tough questions about why people are saying, oh, we have such an accelerated youth now.

5:05 They're growing up and basically by the time they're 13, they're adults and it's good to have no time to be a kid. They're. Given a military games when they're 6 so it's. Like there's nothing in public anymore that's fun. There's no good time. Oh my God. Drive you out there? Well, there's, I mean, and it seems like most of the public places are surrounded by a drug culture, you know what I mean? I would say, so go to the basketball court, go to the, go to the skate park, go to the I mean, it's like a drug culture around it, you know, So you're like, oh, and so the parents are more worried. But then all like they're said, you know, your kid builds resilience or he doesn't, right?

5:46 I don't think that. You got to experiment with drugs to be cool, I think. I don't think that you you can. I don't think that. I think addicts are born, not made, you know? Born not made. Oh well. Do you think the the genetic predisposition is a thing? Yeah, I think I think a lot of people have an addictive behavior, right? And I don't know how and and it and it's hard and and and and I'm I'm definitely talking out my ass here. I don't think it's something that just because I have many relatives that are Alcoholics makes me an alcoholic. It it is because, yeah, I mean, I think that the, and they are that because it's genetic as opposed to it is just we're all just a bunch of weak fucks who have to get drunk all the time, you know what I mean? I think it's a.

6:36 Disease, right? They say it's a disease, and I think that that's a lazy way to put it. I don't know. That's kind of why I think a A is a very lazy way to look at it, because you have to give all your power over to something that you've never seen. Other than yourself. But when in fact you don't even have any power to begin with. And I think so, if you. Don't have any power? Then you know you. It doesn't make any sense. It doesn't make any sense. You're not solving the addiction crisis, you're actually just changing what you're addicted to. Exactly. Which is I mean meetings, which I mean, isn't the. Word thing, which is as long as the behavior you're you can fit into society if you're an A A member, but you can if you're constantly a drunk, of course, if you're the Secretary of Defense, you can, but that's different, you know, so. Yeah, Steve Bannon said that thing the other day. There's like some headline that what was he talking? He was talking about like David Mamet or something, the playwright who said I don't know, he said something that was interesting.

7:33 I don't know. I thought you picked that up. No. No, no, I know. I just know about the whole eggs, that thing and that he's a, he's a power drinker and you know, and he promises he won't drink while he's home. It's just like. Whoa. Well, that's the majority of people in America, I think, because what we did is that we labeled it as alcoholism. Whereas you go to Europe and you drink 3 beers of lunch and you're just considered cool. You're just considered a guy and I think that that's a very big difference in the drinking culture in America is by the time you're 1617 one the collegiate activities right you're going to drink more. You haven't been drinking since you were like 12 or 13 because you're. Yeah, a lot of people I know started that are younger and European were were like, yeah, I had wine.

8:16 We had wine at dinner when I was like 12. They thought it was a big, you're now a man here, you can have a glass of wine and I drink it. It wasn't, it wasn't one of those things that you can't do this, you know, So there wasn't the aura of keeping someone from doing something seems to be a it never, never seems to work. You know no but. Surely or or not, I won't say never. Most of the time it doesn't seem to work when you start to think about, oh, we look, we're just saying no to drugs, don't give them drugs. And you know, it's like, you know, when you're, when you're, when you're. And, and then the the propaganda that they push that it's just not true.

8:56 And I think that that that kind of lends to it. Well, this reminds me of the public speaking project I did at Nova where I did one on Mothers Against Drunk Driving and how they shifted the drinking age. I think it was beer and wine was 17 and 18 was liquor. And then when they went up to 21 because they were like, oh, all these kids are dying. You know what happened? It was just the death toll shift. It shifted to 20. I didn't, you know, I never realized that till you told me that. I thought like that. It was, I said, well, you know, no matter what kind of ship bags they are, at least they saved a lot of kids. But in reality, all they did is give the kids three more years. It literally did nothing yeah. They didn't tackle the issue of drinking in the 1st place. They just.

9:39 Which I mean, making something legal at a certain age just kind of puts it off like you were saying right? But they also withheld Hwy. funds from states that wouldn't change over. So it was a very forceful thing that they did and the. Government, Federal government, shove it down your throat. Because what is that kind of, it's kind of like the same thing when you buy something with a credit card and they say, can you sign for this? It's security theatre. It's we have a security theatre kind of propaganda in the US in which there are these things that are supposed to help you like the TSA, but when in fact they don't do anything. They need money. There's a reason that you sign. There's only one reason, Interstate Commerce Commission, it's the law to that you create a contract if you sign it, If you don't physically sign it, then it isn't creating a contract.

10:28 So there's always an issue if you've never signed a receipt and and that's why they make such a big no matter what you do, as long as you scribble something, that means that you signed. So it's a legal transaction and I, I believe it was the ICC, or maybe I'm wrong about the agency that, that, that overhead oversight, but it's actually key. And they've tried to repeal that over and over and over. But the problem is, is that a lot of transactions are predicated upon having a signature of both parties. And so if you, how would you say, oh, you only have to sign for deals over 80 or 90 or 100? And you're starting to see that in credit card companies like like when you go to Giant and you buy $25 and you just put and you put in and you punch in your code and you're, and you're, and it goes and it pays and you zip your card and you don't have to sign. You just have to say, OK, right up to like up to like $100 now, because they've, they've changed the laws on that. It's actually, it's actually the laws just being behind where the rest of the public wants to go.

11:31 You know, it's the same thing with weed. You know, everybody people don't care about, you know, the banking laws are way behind weed. You know, weed's never going to go anywhere until the banking laws change and the banking's, the bankers are like, no reason to you, you, you don't make enough money to make a difference. And, and besides, you know, and, and it seems kind of weird. You know, it's billions of dollars, but it's billions of dollars and you know, 2500 banks really isn't that much money. Yeah, that's kind of what I was thinking too. I mean and. It's negative and it's negative and it and it's you know what? You know what banking laws are. Banking laws for weed are like beards. Occasionally they're seen as very positive. Most of the time they're neutral and then a good percentage of the another good percentage of the time they're negative. So given note that knowledge.

12:25 If you were to bet against it, you're OK, right? If you're going to say don't have a beard because people's perception of you is going to be not having a beard is not negative, having a beard is going to could be negative not having a beard as positive, not having a beard and. That's what you're saying. That's what you're saying now? So, so it's actually it's a safe bet not to change the banking laws and and bankers for the most part, unless they have the government to bail them out, are relatively, they're supposed to be, you know, conservative and safe, you know, although most many. Unlike in 2008, when nobody went to jail. Nobody.

13:10 Went O7O6O6 and O7 is the reason that we had 2008 and it it had a lot to do with the banking loans. It had a lot to do with the, well, the. Disguising of bonds? Wasn't that what it was? No good, no duck loans when you, when you, when you, when you need need a job and you didn't need anything that they started loaning money to people that and they were loaning to them just for the fee that was generated. And then they would sell it, package it. And Moody's would then say this is AAA. If you had three or four AAA bonds in there and all the rest of the middle tranches and lower tranches were just negative crap, They, they wouldn't rate that, they would rate the whole package AAA.

13:50 And it's like. But they weren't really AAA, right? No, they're shit. They were like Bea Moody was. Just doing a shitty job. That's what I got. Caught and Moody's I think they paid a couple 100 million in fines and then they added new regulation to them on you know but but nobody went to jail you know and they and which. Makes me upset we. Spent We spent 766 trillion on that failure. And I imagine people died in homelessness because of that. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Lots of people, mortgages went underwater and they just ran away from their homes. A whole lot of things happened. It was very horrible. And the people at the top, just, you know, hey, government wrote them all checks, you know? But when I think about bass pro shops, I think about how you can buy boats there on the on site.

14:43 You can buy a boat on site. You want to own a boat though. No, the best, what I've heard is the best time in your life is when you buy your boat and then the next best is when you sell it. And I, I don't think because I don't fish, if I was a fisherman, maybe that would make sense. Maybe that would make sense going on. And I. Will fish what I'm drinking. Well, I drink when I fish, I guess. I don't know. That's it, that's it. I mean, there's there's things that are encouraging. I mean, I used to go fishing with Seth and it was only because we were drinking beers and because I'm hanging out with my brother. I could give a crap, but he's like a master fisherman. Edwin. I don't think I've ever been fishing with Edwin. I used to go fishing with a lot of buddies and basically it was to get high and drink. Well, me and you went out with Seth on the canoe one year.

15:26 Yeah. You remember that when I was like 8 or 9 and we near him wherever, What up was he off the Potomac? Yeah. What river was that? The Potomac River. It was like a 20 minute drive. Yeah, it's we went. Out to it. Was amazing. What is it, Quarter rocks? I'm not sure. Is it what? Whatever happened to the canoe, by the way? Is that still with you? I think I gave it to somebody I forgot because we sat over here forever. And then and then somebody was saying, can I borrow it? And I loaned it to them. And I said, too bad it you, you can't give it back. What do you mean? And it's like you get it, you, you use it, you keep it. It has a hole in it I think or something. Yeah, but I, I, you know, somebody had it and they patched it and it worked for a while.

16:10 I think Travis patched it, but then I think they poked a hole. I don't remember. How do you? Poke a hole in that too. It was like it wasn't. It's resin or whatever that is, yeah. Yeah, well, you don't know. You hit a rock. That's fair. You hit a rock, you got you got you you're on. It wasn't a it wasn't flat bottomed. Oh, you're right. So if you stand on it, you could actually crack the side and if you crack the side you you that's trouble. There's all sorts of little things that could go wrong, but. You can also put AT VS a bass pro shops on the on the lot which is crazy. You can go to some Bass Pro shops, a lot of them Cabela's Bass Pro Shops or Bass Pro Shops. I don't mind renting canoes and renting things like that, but I'm just like, I'm at the point in my life and I've always been this way with a boat.

16:57 I was like, I never thought that that owning a cabin cruiser, I I would feel like I was indebted to go to it every week, even though we owned a big house and. You know, it's the funniest way to put that. That's that's might be the best way to put it. You're not getting any value if you don't go there. And if you don't go there every day of the summer, your pro, your, your, your boat just sitting there in the water is dropping in value, you know, a couple grand a week, you know? I think the most. Ridiculous part. Use it or a dies. We got to pay too to keep it at a Marina and it's like and you got to pay to. Put it in the water, you got to pay to take it out of the water. You got to if it's a bigger boat, you got to have it cleaned. You got to gas any time we're. Not even talking about gas yet.

17:38 Yeah, we, yeah. The title of this episode's going to be We Hate Boats. bass pro shops. Oh, it's bass pro shops. I know. I thought we hate boats. You know, when was the last time you went to a Bass Pro Shops? I went to one in Canada I think. We need to go. Oh, you know what we could do? Or no, it was out in Manassas. I think I we're driving. I, I don't it was, I think it was with you. Me. Yeah, I. Haven't seen you in a. Couple of years, yeah. I mean, it's a couple of years ago. It's been a couple of years. It's not my it's not my thing to go hunting bass. But I look at them and I like them and I think they're cool, but they're not like, you know, I may of when I went, Conrad and I and your mother and his wife, when we were driving to Niagara Falls, we stopped in a parking lot from to recharge and it took like 1/2 an hour.

18:37 It takes. Even longer and I had to go potty. I had to go potty and I went to a bass pro shops. I think that's where I was. I think that's the last time as I went and I, you know, I threw the cigars there and then that was that. You know what I think about too? The most beautiful fish I've ever seen is the rainbow trout. Yeah, in the LL Bean when I was a kid. Well, that fish is so specific. And you know what was cool too and why I always strictly believe in indoor water features is because of that LL Bean like indoor water features really bring something of a mysticism. So the human life experience because things that are outside when you put them inside, really that's the ultimate conquering of nature. If you think about I, it's the most beautiful thing ever when you put a tree inside a mall.

19:25 Oh my God I love stuff like. That I did bass fishing, probably when we went down to what was that? Oh my God, I'm wearing them. Am I wearing them? You are in the waiters. Oh, you went fly fishing that one year? Yeah. And I went to. What's the name of this place? What is that? Oh, Sentara. No, that's a gold company, etcetera. No, it's close, right. Is it close? Let me see. What does it say on the the the pant? Like can we see it here? Sky Terra. There we go. Sky Terra. Yeah, we go. I went. There and I took AI took first one ever fly fishing lesson, went out in the morning, put on the boots, got up at like 5:30 in the morning, cold as hell.

20:14 They had some shitty lukewarm coffee and I down at the place where the guy was taking me for the lesson. And we get in, I put on my boots and I got the rubbers all the way up to minimal and waist. It actually makes you look skinnier. And we're walking into the we're walking into the marsh. It's a little narrow, like stream, maybe 25 feet wide, maybe 6 feet deep. And it feeds into a lake. And we're right. And the guy goes, we'll go to the mouth and we do it. So I, I, I, he's showing me how to flip back and forth, right, And to get a hit. And I get a hit and then I bring it in and the way you bring it in and you reel and you pull and you reel and you do all this. I've completely forgotten what you do. But I got 1 and it's about this big, I got a picture of it and we can show the two pictures and, and they can be the, they can be the front.

21:03 Well, then I do that and I'm fishing still and he's fishing and he doesn't get anything. He keeps showing me how to, how to cast and he casts like it's more of a physical operation in fishing. It's not just sitting there getting shit faced because you got to, you got to, we got to. Stand in the damn water too. Well, I was only I was right on the edge, so I was in about a foot and a half of. Water, right? You're still in the water. Yeah. Yeah, yeah. So it's very, very cool. And it's muddy, sloppy, muddy all the way up to it. You know, it's really, I mean, it's kind of, but you know, you're cold, but you're also a little excited. And I get a hook and it's going back and forth. It's going back and forth. And I keep tugging and pulling a little bit and goes don't pull a Hulk, don't pull a horn. And I I pull this thing and consider that I lied a lot. So I would say 30 minutes, but it's really about 15 to 15 to 18, maybe even 20, maybe as many as 20 minutes, probably 15 minutes back and forth, up and down, you know, and then the guy is telling me like, you know, at some point you got to cut the line if you can't pull him in.

22:05 And so I'm pulling and pulling and pulling because you got like a 7 LB test and it'll snap. It's a light. It's a really light thing. Because you got to whip the shit out, yeah. Yeah, I finally get him in. I pull him out. It is a small mouth bass. It's over £5. He sees it and he said I've never caught one that big. And he looks at me and he's coming like you've done this before. And I go no, he's like, I've never seen anybody pull in one that big out of this, out of this lake in this area. I said, how long you been doing? For 20 years.

22:46 I'm like, whoa, I got a picture. You got to see it. It's just, it's amazing. Well, that's like when we went to Antarctica, I saw 40 whales and people were like, well, we've been down here for 10 years and never seen anything like that. Yeah, when we pulled into that thing, I I mean, things like that happen to me a lot when people talk about it being the first time ever, you know? Yeah, I don't know, you know, I mean, that has happened to me quite a few times. When I saw the when I was doing the Inca trail and I was in the front and I and I'm a fast, I'm a, I'm a pretty fast Walker usually. It used to be now that all my tendons are torn away, nothing but but but. Now that my legs are broken, now my legs are. You know, you know, spaghetti noodles, whatever. The I, I, I'm always first.

23:31 I, I Jose. I was a mile ahead of him every time we hiked, but I'm in the front. No, it wasn't there. It wasn't Machu Picchu, it was taught as Delpine and I was in the West and I was ahead of everybody. And he said, and I said, so if I walk ahead, you have a problem. And he goes, no, no, no, just go as go whatever place you want because I'm a really fast Walker and these are older people and I think I might have been near the youngest there. Besides the crew that's going with them, they were in their 50s and 60s or I was still in my 40s anyway. No, I've been in 5051. Anyway, I walked up on an Andean deer.

24:13 Andean or Indian? Andean ANDAN like tiny, you know, smaller, very dark, no spots, really, really freaking cool looking nice snapped picture. And then it, you know, when it it I, I always swear there was a pick a left or pick a right. That's where I would stop and wait for everybody to catch up and they all caught up and then we had tea there because that was the thing that they did. We had tea for morning and afternoon and and just a a metric shit ton of wine at dinner. We had a pre drunk and then a dinner drunk and then a night drunk and then go to bed and get up and do another 15 miles the next day. Anyway, I took a picture and I told him I I saw a deer and he goes, no, I couldn't have been a deer. And he said, well, I said, well, they're here, right? He goes, yeah.

25:06 And he goes, I said, what it look like? And I said as a little thing, I had this leers. He goes, what do you describe? Like it's Andian deer, But you know, I've been coming here for 30 years and I've never seen one. I said I took a picture. He just went quiet and I showed it to him and he just shook his head. He goes, that's an Andian deer. And the same thing I was when I, I was walking, it was, it was, it was, it wasn't pouring. It was like, you know, just just heavier than a drizzle. And we were out walking and we were doing I think the second leg or something like that.

25:47 We might have been known Fitzroy at that time, which has been there's Argentina and what the heck is it? What's the other hateful country? Not Brazil. Not Venezuela. Were you talking about the top of South America? Yeah, by Uruguay, Chile and Argentina. We were on the board. They're doing Argentina, they're coming from Chile and or vice versa. Anyway, we, I was walking and it was raining and just above the drizzle and I'm walking faster than everybody. I'm in the front and I come across this tree and it was like a little tiny, kind of like a, it looked like a maybe a Willow because it had all the, the will it kind of a Willow tree, kind of a Willow looking tree, but just short little branches everywhere. And it had eight or 9 owls on it. Little tiny guys just all perched around in there. It looked like a nest of owls and it was just wild. And I took a picture of that too. I said, you see owls down here he goes, yeah, they have the South American blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. And I was like, you mean this just like? I don't like you.

27:01 No, no, I have a lot of. I have, I have. Well, The thing is, is that when I'm in the woods, I mean, you've seen me walk. I walk way ahead of your mother, way ahead of everybody, typically because you're evil. Well, they're talking and they're loud and if you want to see anything you need to shut your cake hole, you know well. You walk ahead of us in the city anyway. Well, I don't like you, but that's like. Five blocks ahead and people like you'll you'll be. Like 1/2. Three no more than they'll be like with what family What what do you mean table for three what what is it because you. They'll be back. They'll be a long and 1/2 hour. They're fat and slow and. They'll be like, what is this? These old people, they can't get anywhere, can they? They cannot get anywhere.

27:45 I don't know. You know when you. It's Bass Pro Shops serve food. No, but you know what I was going to say? We should go to Tennessee where they have the pyramid. We should go to the pyramid because that's the biggest one in the US and they have a hotel in the one. Yep, they have a bass pro shops hotel in the top of the pyramid in Memphis, TN. I've always wanted to stay there. People get married there. I don't know why, but they do. Really. I was thinking about doing that this year. You. Want to go? You want to do it this year? Yeah, in a heartbeat. Memphis, TN. When? When are we going to go? What's after? Probably September. How's September for? You OK? Let's do it then. I mean Memphis after September 5th. I'm seeing Oasis on September 5th. It's gonna be great.

28:29 What? Why? Why do you? Why do? You give that snide look, huh? What is that? What is that? He's just not a. He's not a a a. What's his name? The the the arrogant 1. The arrogant one. Wow. You don't like him? He's so funny though. You got to admit. Him. He lives it, though. He's brought. Stupid to a new level, is that what you're saying? Well, he does. This thing, like he did this bit the other day, he's like, I don't understand why these people are wearing cowboy boots and everything. Like you can make a great music, but if you look like an idiot, you'll never be a rock star. It's like, look at me, I wear a rain jacket. I wear jeans, rain jacket, jeans. That's all I am. That's all ever will be. And I love it. I love that and he's like and I could sing and I'm beautiful. It is so funny and he's not a great looking guy, but he's. A confident guy, He's very confident and and he must, you have to, I guess you should admire that. I do, I really do.

29:17 And he's well-being narcissistic. I think is is the key to being a a we. Don't know anybody that way, do we? No, definitely not me. No, never, never me. No, I don't think we are. I I mean. Really. I don't think so. You really don't think so? Not even to some degree. To a little bit. We have a problem. Yeah, for God's sake. I'm sorry, what we? Were on podcasts, for God's sake. We like to ourselves talk enough that we wanted to taint people's ears with this jargon. Think about that. Well, I mean, I think the thing that that that kind of struck me is that you've said this over and over and it sometimes I think about it more than other times is that we don't do this for other people. We do it for us 100%.

29:58 We do it for you and we and I don't do it for you. I do it for me because I'm selfish and and yeah, because it's like, wow, who else in the world gets an uninterrupted amount of time to sit and just shoot the breeze with her kid and talk about whatever cool thing that's happening or not happening or just a made-up topic and then just sort of offline and go off into spaceland and talk about fish and then talk about getting high and Jupiter and whatever the fuck else we do, you know, You know what I mean? It's kind of like that is this is, to me, an amazing experience. I couldn't agree more and why I think also it's so we do it for other people at the same time and to realize that a relationship with your father is not as impossible as it may seem.

30:43 And then because me and you had a rough time for a long time and. You were always wrong. Well, I was always right. And I think that now that we're doing the podcast, you realize that you were always wrong. I think that's. True, I always was wrong. That's why we're here now. Except for when you were. Wrong and then you accepted that you were wrong about everything and that's why we have a podcast is because it's your acceptance your. I think. I think. You are wrong and I think. No. You know what the acceptance is, is that it just doesn't matter. That that's a. Fairpoint, I think that when it comes right down to it, when you start to like get into the minutiae of all the things that, you know, there might have been big topics that we talked about that mattered at the time that we tried to sway one another on and we couldn't. And you realize that if you're trying to change someone's opinion and you.

31:32 I think that trying to have that as a goal, it's just not going to happen. They're going to have to change it on their own of their own findings and their own things and their own experiences. And either they'll see it or not. And you can spew the truth all you want out there and try to put it in front of them and tell them. But if if they don't, there's a level of trust that will go with that. But then at some point it's like you're just spouting what the other side always says, you know? So you so but that but it but it's some, but then that grows with you and I I think it's trust. You know, you started to learn that we we learned to trust each other. You know, although I don't trust you, but you don't. Trust me. So even well, when we came from different places of understanding, when I began to grow up at, I would say around 2021, I instead of persecuting you would say, why do you think that way? Why do you think that way?

32:25 Instead, I came from an understanding point of view instead of a let me put my opinion on your forehead and drive it in like a nail because that never works. That never works. No, it results in aggression every single time. And it's like, why wouldn't you just kind of massage the conversation to a point to where you get both understanding each other rather than damning somebody until they just scream at you, right? Like there's no I don't. Really. Well, see, I find that that you do that when you when you're bored and you need attention and you go to Newsmax and then you just say something bad about Trump. Somebody, somebody I know does that quite frequently. I don't know who it is. And you get like 100 responses and it's like it just makes you feel good for the day.

33:09 You you know, the weird thing is, is that they could also go to like alt left or whatever they are, I think. Alt left does the same thing. There's ultimate state. Well, see, I don't think that's true. Really. I don't think it's true. No, I don't see. I don't see trying to have free Healthcare is the same as going to war. I don't, I don't, I don't balance those two as equal. No, I'm saying reaction wise. I'm saying reaction wise. I'm saying, yeah, overtly aggressive very quickly when their opinion isn't accepted. That's what I'm getting right. I'm not saying, well, they're weird. The free Healthcare is is on the same playing field.

33:49 When you try to measure going to war policies to 1 to the other, but the the the I guess The thing is, is that when you say they're like they're I'm I'm trying to think of all of the. I don't know what I'm thinking of. I was thinking of Bass Pro Shops, you know, and I was thinking about that big bass and then. So Tennessee, we're gonna go. LLB We. Gotta go in September. I like that. Let's put a date on it. I'll book the hotel Tennessee. And because they got you can go bow fishing inside the thing with like rubber fish. Oh my gosh. Yeah, it's gonna be great. Well, I just, I really don't like the taste of rubber. No.

34:33 We're gonna have to eat it. What What is there to do in Memphis, TN other than? Oh, there's a lot of stuff. It's it's a cowboy town. Yeah, it is country music. Oh, you're right, son Records. Barbecue. Nashville. That might be Nashville. No BBQ Memphis is oh, it's got like it's where the real country music is. Well, that's the vinegar based downtown Memphis. Hot sauce, too, is where Memphis is. Stax Museum of American Soul Music. We should go to Memphis. Memphis Zoo, Memphis Museum of Science and History. Oh my gosh. The Orange Mound. Big River crossing. What is a big river crossing? Arkansas is right across the I've never been to Arkansas.

35:14 You never been, never been. I've never been either. Oh my gosh, we have to. Oh, what I was going to say to you know where I'm going do. You know the Southland Casino Hotel is in Arkansas. When I go in there, we're going to the the pyramid. It's yeah. We're going to the pyramid, but I'm just saying that how far is Little Rock? Because that you know. That's Sean, went there recently. He went to Little Rock. Yeah, yeah. I mean, I can imagine going there because of the historic place, right? What it What was there? And what happened to Little Rock? Yeah. What happened to Little Rock? Was there a big rock desegregated? Oh, you're right. Was it the high school thing that happened? I.

35:59 Think it was the high school civil rights. Yeah, yeah. Dates back what was Little Rock known for? Home of the Little Rock 9, a group of African American teenagers who made civil rights history in 1957. Wow. Wow, segregation. Where have I been? Do you ever go to? I went to Bourbon Street about 45 years ago. Yeah, I went down there. I went to, I drove from Virginia through Knoxville, TN, which is not if not really big like Memphis or Nashville, but it was fun nonetheless. And then we went down to Louisiana. That was a good time.

36:45 Stayed in a weird hotel. It was a it was a Hyatt, but the room was like in an L shape like which they all are, I guess. But this one had a long, long skinny hallway that felt about like a, a city block long. And then it opened up into like a 10 foot ceiling. But then the room, the bed was the size of the room. It was weird. It was strange. Really strange and. Then there's like a couch almost on top of the bed. Yes, very, very weird. Really tiny, tiny room, Big room. I mean, long hallway along the way. Well, you know what that means. That means that they had it's. I think it was running out of space configuration and make more rooms that's.

37:27 Exactly what it was. It was designed like a broom closet or something, I imagine. Yeah, it was very interesting. But I ate alligator or crocodile, I can't remember which one down there. That was great. Probably alligator. Alligator. Toupee A toupee down there. Oh, I love, I love crawfish. A toupee that is so. I don't like eating regular crawfish. Can't say that it's. Great. No, no, it isn't. It isn't. It's they're all plucked out and everything and made. I remember. I like the one it's plucked out because I and myself am terrible at doing that. There was this bit I saw the other day where this guy was like what it's like to order crabs at a restaurant. So can I get one order of the hardest thing I've ever eaten in my life? Oh, can I get one order of the the armor, please?

38:09 Oh, yeah. Can I get one order of the armor with that comes with no meat at all and is the most difficult thing I've ever eaten in my entire life and cuts my fingers. Thank you. Yes. Oh, can I get one order of the football pads that people wear? And it burns because you have the spicy sauce on there that feels so good when you get old BAE into a cut. It's just like, yes, I feel like I have succeeded in life. I. Don't ever need to eat crabs ever again. Small crabs that is. Because with environmental impact, the small crabs Oh no longer are great. It's only the Alaskan king crab that really is worth anything. And well, I think, I don't know, I'm selfish. We have had, if you buy crab meat, that's that's fine. Crab meat to me when we did because you did crab mango and what was it?

38:55 Crab, mango, avocado stack. Yeah. Oh my gosh, that is. Well, I'll tell you the best sandwich I ever made. Crab melt sandwich where you get 2 pieces of bread. You make a spicy mayonnaise. Sriracha Mayo. No, no, it's not sriracha Mayo. You make a crab salad. My my apologies. You get the crab, you get mayonnaise, right? And then you mix the crab with mayonnaise with a little bit of paprika, old Bay salt, pepper, garlic, onion powder. And then you cover the sides of the bread and mayonnaise, right? You put the crab salad on there, and then you put a piece of provolone over the crab salad and then you melt it like a Panini style. And that is nothing. Provolone instead of like like I I would think American would go really well. I don't know provolone really.

39:35 Well, the orange cheese is really good on crab. Maybe I use Colby Jack, I don't know Monterey. Colby Jack would be, yeah, that would be that. Would I might have used Colby Jack? I might have used Colby Jack on that. But I'm not going to lie, that was amazing. Yeah. Maybe it was even. Pepper Jack, Pepper Jack, Would you? Would you do that? Would you? Would that be a good sandwich for Bass Pro Shops? I think that that could be Bass Pro Shops sandwich of the year. I don't know why they don't have food. I think that would be, it would certainly be a sideline. Well, I would, I would try to think like what would go with bass pro shops? When people go there, they go there for a long time and it's a destination, right? Generally they do the it's on an in and out kind of place.

40:16 People go there to look around at all this stuff and look at all this stuff, and I wonder how many people walk in there and don't buy anything. I'd imagine probably 30 or 40% of the people that go there buy some tiny little thing. Very little. Well, yeah, I I bought it pulled. For a hat. And that's what they do and. Now I bought MOC and I bought, I bought Maple, Maple bacon popcorn or something, you know, caramel corn deer, deer, I think they call it deer droppings or something like that. Oh, I remember that. I remember. That, yeah, I bought that there. I bought it at Cabela's or it was, I think it was Bass Pro, whatever, I don't know. But now they're both the same. But you're right. So well, when we talk about the importance of Bass Pro Shops. Do you think I should send them a business plan on why they should adopt food in their place? What would it be?

41:06 Would you have coffee and like sundries? That's what I would have, Something you could pick up and carry and eat. Buffalo Bar. Ridgedale, Missouri. You know what we actually might go to? Ridgedale, Missouri. Springfield, Ridgedale. Hollister, MO. Oh my gosh, Springfield. Cuz my pay my is that where the. Simpsons are. And I think so. Either that or Virginia, but. No, not Virginia, the Springfield in the Midwest. That you earn with the card can take you on vacation. Look at that, you see that and also you can redeem more points at basspro.com. You know what's funny? When we booked the hotel, I'll book it on my card, my Bass Pro Shops card. So if you so if you if you spend $50,000, they give you a $500 vacation, right? Exactly.

41:48 Yeah, it sounds great to me. Yeah. Sounds like it really pays for itself, right? What are you talking about? Maybe we should talk about the points program. Wow, I. Love the points. A lot of people do. A lot of people are addicted to using only one carrier or one car. That's funny you mention that. And I'm going to do this and I got the Platinum card and I get this and I get that and I get this. And it's like, no, you paid $900. You don't get that. You paid for that. Well, that's kind of what I'm realizing too, is that I have like 150,000 points, which is only equivalated to like $1500 right now. And I'm like, that's crazy, but you know, but it's $1500. But it's different because they're miles, because they're for air travel.

42:29 Yeah, you could get a pretty good decent travel out of 150,000. You can get what I was looking at is you can book a flight there and back and a hotel with that amount of points. That's a. Platinum member at Holiday Inn Express. Do you know that what is I have 150,000 points. Oh wow. And, and it's like platinum and it's, and it is because, and it they have a really, really, really low point scale. You know, they give you like 100 points for every stay or 200 or 500 or something like that. Yeah, well, I've been there for 10 years. So like, you know. Oh wait, 200 for every?

43:09 That's nothing. Yeah, it's not that many. I mean, you spend, you spend $500, you get 500 points and you're thinking like, OK, that means I've stayed there so. Many 1 billion Dimes. Well, 200 times roughly. 750 million * 2. 100 times, and that's not really that many of you Figure 10 years or nine years or whatever. So it's a fairpoint, yeah, when you think about it. But anyway, I want to go check out this resort. We should go check. Out the Memphis. We'll do it. Big Cedar we're going to invite. You down by your mother, We're going to say no, you're not invited. We should definitely take her to the pyramid. I've always wanted to go. Oh my gosh, I want to take her too. Oh, there is dining actually. What a kill. It says dining. Make a meal out of your hard earned club points at various Bass Pro Shops in Cabela's restaurants so they. Already have?

43:54 Oh my gosh. They already have it. They already. Have it? No, they didn't already have it. They just came up with the We came up with the idea and they stole it. To destinations like Big Cedar Lodge and use your club points. For accommodations, golf and more outdoor adventures, use Club. Golf. We could go golfing because I'll be able to golf by that. Honestly, we could go golfing. I'd be down. I love golfing, I'm not going to lie. I love when we play once a year. That's the perfect amount of golf for me. And I play about half the of the 18 and I say I just want to go drink at the bar. And then that's what we do. And I think that that's the perfect. Way you know is to give up halfway through. I was trying to learn something from the Scottish when when I was there and I played Saint Andrews and I was playing the second one and the guy's going like, yeah, we had a guy come out here.

44:37 You told this story. Yeah, I remember. Yeah, have I told it online? Yeah, yeah, you've told it on here too. Oh the 2 bottles, Oh my God, I just think about that. Go like wow. Yeah, I don't think I'm good after about 1/5. I don't think so. Yeah, well my between the two of us would be fine. Yeah, that's fair. Yeah. And that. But that would be that would be it. Yeah, and then I'd lay down on the grass and take a nap. Yeah, that's what you got to do. Little golf nap never hurt anybody. I think that's great. What time are we at here? What are we clocking in at? We're almost, we're almost at 50. You've been talking a lot. We're almost at 50 with the intro. We're pretty much done here. We could wrap up. So Bass. Pro shop is wow. I'm I, I I want to go, I think.

45:20 We're I think we're going to go I. Think we're going to go. I think we need to book it. You're you're saying September? October. You want me to book it? I'll book it. No, no, no, no, no. Well, but I have the can I send you my card information You'll. No, you do it. You do it with your card. We what? The three. OK, you book it. I want the points. We got to get a date. We got to set. We got to set a date together. September 18th. Sounds good. Maybe we can tell our listeners and they'll be there too. September 18th. OK, Lisbon, Porto, Your mother and I are going from the 2nd to the 13th. There you go. So can we probably go? Nothing like going to Lisbon and then to bass pro shops right after. That's awesome. It's. Can we go like the 25th?

46:02 18th or nothing, I think that that's pretty much how it's going to go. OK, well, that's the way you feel. No, no, 25th sounds great. We're just going for the day. Oh, am I going to fly across the country for the day? Oh. It's just for the day. The 18th is that. Is that the whole thing? Let me just fly there. Now you know the 18th is a Thursday. Oh, is it really? So Thursday, Friday you got to be there. A Friday and a Saturday you have to be. I think so. It's hillbilly country and we want to get all and we want to get some banjos and we want to get and we want to get some funny hats and we want to run around and we want to go do the Ling Ding, Ding, Ding, Ding, Ding, Ding Ding. Watch Deliverance while we're there. Oh my God, yeah, we will go to the theater and see if we get a special showing of Deliverance. All right well thank you guys for listening No, you're not done yet you're not done.

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