Episode 101: Tom Cruise

1
00:00:09,440 --> 00:00:12,560
Welcome back everybody to a
record of My father.

2
00:00:12,680 --> 00:00:16,560
Today we're going to be talking
about our favorite guy, Mr.

3
00:00:16,800 --> 00:00:21,560
Military propaganda in American
culture, Tom Cruise.

4
00:00:21,560 --> 00:00:25,400
Oh, we love Tom Cruise.
You ever see the movie Eyes Wide

5
00:00:25,400 --> 00:00:26,680
Shut?
And you know that movie take a

6
00:00:26,720 --> 00:00:28,360
took a long time to make.
I never saw him.

7
00:00:29,040 --> 00:00:30,400
You know, it's Stanley Kubrick
who did it.

8
00:00:30,680 --> 00:00:34,920
He's the one that made.
Who is it, Shelley Duvall?

9
00:00:34,920 --> 00:00:38,480
Go crazy.
Yeah, he made her go wild.

10
00:00:38,480 --> 00:00:40,680
You know what I realized?
I watched this little YouTube

11
00:00:40,680 --> 00:00:42,920
short the other day about the
movie Popeye, right?

12
00:00:43,360 --> 00:00:48,400
And apparently that was the most
cocaine that has ever been on a

13
00:00:48,400 --> 00:00:51,080
set.
They shot that in Malta for some

14
00:00:51,120 --> 00:00:52,240
reason.
I don't know why.

15
00:00:52,640 --> 00:00:55,560
And when they were sending the
film back to LA, 'cause you have

16
00:00:55,560 --> 00:00:58,480
to do dailies, right?
They were sending cocaine back

17
00:00:58,480 --> 00:01:00,960
from LA to Malta, which was
interesting.

18
00:01:01,280 --> 00:01:02,760
It's pretty crazy.
I don't know.

19
00:01:02,760 --> 00:01:04,680
They said they put it like in
everything.

20
00:01:04,920 --> 00:01:07,120
It was, it was all over this set
and all sorts of different

21
00:01:07,120 --> 00:01:08,400
things.
Like it was in a telephone that

22
00:01:08,400 --> 00:01:11,160
he calls on.
It was in everything.

23
00:01:11,160 --> 00:01:13,520
So everywhere you went, you
wouldn't, you wouldn't have to

24
00:01:13,520 --> 00:01:15,520
like you wouldn't even have to
take a break.

25
00:01:17,120 --> 00:01:19,440
You're like, whoa.
Oh my God.

26
00:01:19,440 --> 00:01:25,400
Well, that's kind of why he had
really bad managing endorphin

27
00:01:25,400 --> 00:01:28,040
levels later in life, I think.
'Cause when you think when

28
00:01:28,040 --> 00:01:30,800
you're shot, yeah, you think
about that, You're just like,

29
00:01:30,800 --> 00:01:33,520
wow, that's just, and it's
everywhere.

30
00:01:33,680 --> 00:01:38,880
I mean, you knew people that
that were on the set and they in

31
00:01:38,880 --> 00:01:43,160
Hollywood sets and they were
cocaine addicts and, but they

32
00:01:43,160 --> 00:01:45,680
needed to get free and it was
very difficult to get free

33
00:01:45,680 --> 00:01:48,440
'cause, you know, at the food
table was the cocaine.

34
00:01:48,960 --> 00:01:52,200
And you know, at this, there's
more and there's more and it's

35
00:01:52,320 --> 00:01:54,640
everywhere.
And it's now it's like, I think,

36
00:01:55,000 --> 00:01:57,200
I think it's really, it's
changed.

37
00:01:57,360 --> 00:02:00,800
No, definitely.
You know, it's, it's, it's, it's

38
00:02:00,800 --> 00:02:03,280
a whole lot less, you know,
'cause we all think about heroin

39
00:02:03,280 --> 00:02:05,560
and we all think about weed and
stuff and you wouldn't smoke

40
00:02:05,560 --> 00:02:07,840
weed on the set.
But you know, well, I guess

41
00:02:07,840 --> 00:02:09,880
unless you're Matthew
McConaughey.

42
00:02:09,880 --> 00:02:14,120
Or who is it, Woody Harrelson?
Well, things aren't.

43
00:02:14,160 --> 00:02:17,960
Real anymore things aren't real
anymore everything's a facade of

44
00:02:17,960 --> 00:02:20,320
another thing that you thought
it was real but it's not

45
00:02:20,600 --> 00:02:24,320
everything's engineered to make
you unhappy now and not there's

46
00:02:24,320 --> 00:02:27,160
no happiness that exists in
American culture anymore but I

47
00:02:27,160 --> 00:02:28,840
digest the new movie what do
you.

48
00:02:28,920 --> 00:02:31,440
Think that we find it ourselves.
Find what?

49
00:02:32,080 --> 00:02:35,520
Happiness.
I think so, but I think life is

50
00:02:35,680 --> 00:02:39,960
a pattern of leading highs, and
I think that you're always kind

51
00:02:39,960 --> 00:02:41,840
of trying to chase the next one.
Right.

52
00:02:41,960 --> 00:02:43,160
Yeah.
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.

53
00:02:43,160 --> 00:02:45,240
I, I can't, I can't fight that
too much.

54
00:02:46,040 --> 00:02:49,160
That's what it's I would back to
Cruz.

55
00:02:49,160 --> 00:02:52,000
I think the reason we're kind of
jumping on this is because

56
00:02:52,000 --> 00:02:55,320
Mission Impossible just came out
and it's the the the final

57
00:02:55,320 --> 00:02:56,960
reckoning or whatever the hell
it is.

58
00:02:56,960 --> 00:02:59,080
And you know, that means they'll
only be two more.

59
00:03:00,880 --> 00:03:06,720
But he is, I'm, I'm 65, OK, Tom
Cruise is 62.

60
00:03:07,800 --> 00:03:12,000
This guy wing walks and you may
not know, I don't know a lot

61
00:03:12,000 --> 00:03:14,200
about wing walking, but when I
saw what they were doing is

62
00:03:14,200 --> 00:03:16,520
like, oh, he gets like 3GS when
he's walking on there.

63
00:03:16,520 --> 00:03:18,520
And you can't really do that
otherwise you're just bombing

64
00:03:18,520 --> 00:03:19,960
out your face.
But then you're choked it up

65
00:03:19,960 --> 00:03:25,440
because you know when you're
like and he's in the air, couple

66
00:03:25,440 --> 00:03:29,480
1000 feet, he's got a hidden
parachute and he's walking up

67
00:03:29,480 --> 00:03:32,480
and down and it's just like
crazy.

68
00:03:32,480 --> 00:03:35,040
And you see the face and you
know how hard his pushing is

69
00:03:35,040 --> 00:03:41,160
because is as good looking as he
is at 62.

70
00:03:41,560 --> 00:03:44,400
And they do some micro close-ups
on his face and you're like,

71
00:03:44,400 --> 00:03:48,080
whoa, I don't know.
What if Scientology has a

72
00:03:48,080 --> 00:03:51,640
special cream that they put on
their face, but whatever the

73
00:03:51,640 --> 00:03:55,240
hell it is he.
Owns like a jet, right?

74
00:03:55,240 --> 00:03:59,640
Well, I think about the amount
of money that him, Brad Pitt and

75
00:04:00,040 --> 00:04:04,080
the other famous actors of today
put into their skin care.

76
00:04:04,520 --> 00:04:07,000
And I can't, I can't imagine
that's got to be hundreds of

77
00:04:07,000 --> 00:04:09,840
thousands of dollars a year.
Oh gosh, yes.

78
00:04:09,840 --> 00:04:11,800
Well, because that's what that's
what they are.

79
00:04:11,800 --> 00:04:14,840
That's the sale.
But the The thing is, is that

80
00:04:15,080 --> 00:04:16,800
all of that, yeah, people have
money.

81
00:04:16,800 --> 00:04:18,680
But you know, Val Kilmer had
money, too.

82
00:04:19,560 --> 00:04:22,880
There's a lot of people that had
money that that could have done

83
00:04:22,880 --> 00:04:25,760
it and didn't because they
didn't have the motivation.

84
00:04:25,760 --> 00:04:29,640
These people.
I mean, he is driven to do the

85
00:04:29,640 --> 00:04:31,280
next craziest thing in the
world.

86
00:04:31,640 --> 00:04:34,040
You know, you see some of his
movies when he was in What is

87
00:04:34,040 --> 00:04:37,080
it?
What are the two towers in

88
00:04:37,480 --> 00:04:40,040
Thailand?
Burj Khalifa or No?

89
00:04:40,040 --> 00:04:44,080
No, that's in what?
Was it Abu Dhabi or something?

90
00:04:44,080 --> 00:04:44,720
Dubai.
Dubai.

91
00:04:44,760 --> 00:04:48,560
There we go.
Yeah, but Malaysia, Malaysia's

92
00:04:48,560 --> 00:04:51,600
the ones that are across from
each other that's went out the

93
00:04:51,600 --> 00:04:55,800
window and went across it like
60 stories and flips up to

94
00:04:55,800 --> 00:04:58,320
another one.
And you see this in the means

95
00:04:58,320 --> 00:05:04,240
all the time when he's talking
to Matt Damon and Matt Damon's

96
00:05:04,240 --> 00:05:06,680
like, well, you know, so I'm
really, really curious.

97
00:05:06,760 --> 00:05:08,640
I saw that that was the most
amazing thing in the world.

98
00:05:08,640 --> 00:05:11,760
Cause Damon's into like, you
know, the crazy stuff and he

99
00:05:11,760 --> 00:05:15,680
goes, so how'd you do that, Tom?
And, and, and cruise goes, well,

100
00:05:15,960 --> 00:05:18,240
I had, I, I had this idea and I
told him a whole lot.

101
00:05:18,240 --> 00:05:20,560
I totally had an idea to the
safety guy and the safety guy

102
00:05:20,560 --> 00:05:22,560
goes, you can't do that.
That's crazy.

103
00:05:23,080 --> 00:05:28,600
So I got another safety guy and
that's not the point.

104
00:05:32,480 --> 00:05:38,880
But I mean a motorcycle going
off a mountain in Brazil and

105
00:05:38,880 --> 00:05:42,960
dropping and then you then you
parachute off of it onto a

106
00:05:43,120 --> 00:05:45,040
helicopter.
I mean onto a train.

107
00:05:45,960 --> 00:05:47,400
Did he go onto the train?
He.

108
00:05:47,400 --> 00:05:49,720
Didn't go onto the train on
that, but he did go onto the

109
00:05:49,720 --> 00:05:51,680
train later and.
It was like.

110
00:05:52,480 --> 00:05:54,960
Cut and and his earlier mission
Impossibles.

111
00:05:55,000 --> 00:05:58,400
His earlier mission impossibles,
he learned how to fly a

112
00:05:58,520 --> 00:06:04,280
helicopter.
That scene, that scene where he

113
00:06:04,280 --> 00:06:08,480
goes into the tunnel, he's
flying the helicopter.

114
00:06:09,040 --> 00:06:13,480
OK, That's not your RG3 shit.
Whatever it is, that's real,

115
00:06:13,480 --> 00:06:17,200
that's him.
And it's like he, he for six

116
00:06:17,200 --> 00:06:20,040
months, he got professional.
He got, you know, one of the

117
00:06:20,040 --> 00:06:22,560
great battle pilot, whatever
they are to fly one of those

118
00:06:22,560 --> 00:06:25,680
little tiny helicopters.
And he taught him how to fly it

119
00:06:25,680 --> 00:06:27,480
and he flew and he flew it
himself.

120
00:06:27,520 --> 00:06:30,840
And you're like, Oh my gosh.
Those things are so dangerous

121
00:06:30,840 --> 00:06:31,720
too.
Oh my God, yeah.

122
00:06:31,720 --> 00:06:34,840
But to fly one, I mean 1 is
like, hey, I could, you could

123
00:06:34,840 --> 00:06:37,680
probably teach me to get a
helicopter to take off and and

124
00:06:37,680 --> 00:06:40,880
land, right.
You know, if you gave me, if you

125
00:06:40,880 --> 00:06:44,560
gave me time, I think and a lot
of space, I, I, I probably

126
00:06:44,560 --> 00:06:46,840
wouldn't kill anybody but the
idea.

127
00:06:47,440 --> 00:06:51,120
But you could fly this and then
fly it into a tunnel.

128
00:06:51,840 --> 00:06:54,000
I just I just that just would
make me.

129
00:06:54,120 --> 00:06:56,120
I want to know if that's true.
I'm curious.

130
00:06:56,280 --> 00:06:59,240
I'm curious now if not.
That's what I mean.

131
00:06:59,240 --> 00:07:00,240
I can't.
Even tell him.

132
00:07:00,280 --> 00:07:01,960
That I was just like, shocked.
Oh, he was.

133
00:07:02,840 --> 00:07:05,240
That he learned how to fly the
helicopter and he's like, he's

134
00:07:05,240 --> 00:07:08,080
that kind of guy.
He's the one that all you have

135
00:07:08,080 --> 00:07:10,200
to do with Cruz is say you can't
do it.

136
00:07:10,880 --> 00:07:13,200
And so the next time if I ever
meet him, I'm just going to say,

137
00:07:13,200 --> 00:07:16,160
well, you can't give me $100
million your pussy and see what

138
00:07:16,160 --> 00:07:20,600
happens.
And you're going to learn how to

139
00:07:20,600 --> 00:07:22,920
fly a helicopter you, but would
you ever do the wing walking

140
00:07:22,920 --> 00:07:24,320
thing?
Would you ever do that?

141
00:07:24,680 --> 00:07:25,960
What are they?
They used to do that in like the

142
00:07:25,960 --> 00:07:28,720
30s or something or 40s.
Yeah, but they didn't have

143
00:07:28,720 --> 00:07:31,360
parachutes.
No, no, it was just on the wire.

144
00:07:31,560 --> 00:07:32,880
Yeah.
And it's just like if you let

145
00:07:32,880 --> 00:07:34,080
go, you're dead.
Yeah.

146
00:07:34,760 --> 00:07:36,440
And that I mean.
That's so cool.

147
00:07:36,960 --> 00:07:39,440
Yeah, just to think about that,
you know.

148
00:07:39,640 --> 00:07:42,960
I feel like it's not that bad if
you're not doing like three 60s.

149
00:07:44,040 --> 00:07:49,120
The plane was doing loops.
Yeah, barrel rolls and it was

150
00:07:49,120 --> 00:07:51,920
doing front dives.
So when you see and you see his

151
00:07:52,040 --> 00:07:56,600
body, the way he's grabbing it,
he certainly, he knew what was

152
00:07:56,600 --> 00:07:59,440
going to happen next so he could
adjust what he's grabbing onto.

153
00:08:00,240 --> 00:08:04,080
But he's holding on.
There's no like separate latch

154
00:08:04,080 --> 00:08:06,520
that's latching him on to make
sure that he doesn't fall off.

155
00:08:07,160 --> 00:08:08,720
He doesn't have a, he doesn't
have a safety line.

156
00:08:09,160 --> 00:08:10,720
He's just hanging on just like
he did.

157
00:08:10,880 --> 00:08:12,320
He had a safety line when he
went on.

158
00:08:12,960 --> 00:08:15,480
What was the one where he hung
onto the plane outside on the

159
00:08:15,480 --> 00:08:18,320
door?
Look at that one.

160
00:08:19,320 --> 00:08:23,440
Oh yeah, and he's hanging on the
side of a 737, I think.

161
00:08:23,440 --> 00:08:25,440
Those 3 movies ago, I do
remember that, yeah.

162
00:08:25,560 --> 00:08:29,440
And and and and and he was had a
safety line, but the thing's

163
00:08:29,440 --> 00:08:35,240
doing 350 miles an hour, I mean.
And his feet are like dragging.

164
00:08:35,280 --> 00:08:37,760
If I remember, I think it's no.
No, they weren't dragging.

165
00:08:37,880 --> 00:08:40,200
They weren't dragging.
They were bouncing against the

166
00:08:40,200 --> 00:08:42,280
side of the plane.
That's what it was, That's what

167
00:08:42,280 --> 00:08:43,400
it.
Was and now we just that could

168
00:08:43,400 --> 00:08:46,440
beat you to death and it's like
once the plane's going up like

169
00:08:46,440 --> 00:08:48,640
this, it's like you can't say
hey, freeze everybody.

170
00:08:48,640 --> 00:08:49,840
We're just got Tom's having
trouble there.

171
00:08:49,840 --> 00:08:53,000
We got to help him there.
You know you can't do anything.

172
00:08:53,080 --> 00:08:56,200
You know, you're just, he's
going to die and you know, you,

173
00:08:56,240 --> 00:08:57,840
you see this stuff and it's
like.

174
00:09:00,160 --> 00:09:02,400
Just just incredible.
You know, what's interesting is

175
00:09:02,400 --> 00:09:06,040
what Paul Newman said about, oh,
gosh, Steve McQueen.

176
00:09:06,440 --> 00:09:08,920
And he said, oh, wow, Like Steve
McQueen I think just came out

177
00:09:08,920 --> 00:09:11,120
with bullet at this point.
He's like, wow, it's the rise of

178
00:09:11,120 --> 00:09:15,360
the illiterate actor.
And and what he meant by that is

179
00:09:15,360 --> 00:09:19,880
somebody that relies solely on
props to tell a story, right?

180
00:09:19,880 --> 00:09:23,680
And not their pure sheer acting
ability, which I think is

181
00:09:23,680 --> 00:09:25,800
interesting when we think about
Tom Cruise.

182
00:09:26,160 --> 00:09:29,920
But what did Tom Cruise accept
make the illiterate actor

183
00:09:30,280 --> 00:09:33,560
somebody who is so
representative in today's

184
00:09:33,560 --> 00:09:38,640
society, so prolific per SE.
And I think that that is really

185
00:09:38,640 --> 00:09:44,280
an interesting thing to.
He is himself in most movies,

186
00:09:44,720 --> 00:09:49,000
but if you see like the the one
when he was, they did Vampire

187
00:09:49,000 --> 00:09:53,320
Lestat, he did that one and he
did it with Brad Pitt and

188
00:09:53,320 --> 00:09:58,200
everybody was like, this is no,
these guys, no way, no way, no

189
00:09:58,200 --> 00:10:00,680
way.
But but when you saw them in the

190
00:10:00,680 --> 00:10:04,800
movie, then you realize that's
when I realized that Cruz could

191
00:10:04,800 --> 00:10:07,200
act.
I mean, because mostly risky

192
00:10:07,200 --> 00:10:09,400
biscuits.
I mean, he's been risky business

193
00:10:09,400 --> 00:10:12,720
since he was a little kid, you
know, and he's exploded on the

194
00:10:12,720 --> 00:10:15,320
scene and he's done movie after
movie after movie.

195
00:10:15,600 --> 00:10:18,120
And, you know, he's Reacher.
He's the tough guy.

196
00:10:19,200 --> 00:10:21,040
Oh Reacher, I totally forgot
about that one.

197
00:10:21,400 --> 00:10:23,320
That like a completely slip
online.

198
00:10:23,840 --> 00:10:27,360
That are just like holy crud.
You know when you look at it

199
00:10:30,320 --> 00:10:33,000
Mapother.
MAPOTHER.

200
00:10:33,000 --> 00:10:36,120
That's his real last name, you
know.

201
00:10:36,240 --> 00:10:39,280
So Tom's last name.
Interesting.

202
00:10:39,280 --> 00:10:43,400
I want to read a Every time I go
to the library I walk past this

203
00:10:43,400 --> 00:10:45,400
book and it's Tom Cruise
biography.

204
00:10:45,400 --> 00:10:47,400
I'd be curious what to know
because I don't know anything

205
00:10:47,400 --> 00:10:48,920
really about him other than
that.

206
00:10:49,560 --> 00:10:51,720
You see the movies.
Mission Impossible and.

207
00:10:51,720 --> 00:10:55,640
Well, he's he's grossed over 12
billion worldwide.

208
00:10:55,880 --> 00:10:58,480
That's crazy when he's in a
movie.

209
00:10:58,640 --> 00:11:01,640
I mean, think about the people
that I mean, Bruce Willis has

210
00:11:01,640 --> 00:11:04,680
been in some amazing
blockbusters, Arnold

211
00:11:04,680 --> 00:11:08,480
Schwarzenegger, Sylvester
Stallone, Matt Damon, but

212
00:11:08,480 --> 00:11:12,280
they've also been in some actual
huge bombs.

213
00:11:12,720 --> 00:11:15,840
But this guy, for some reason,
he's kind of like Teflon.

214
00:11:15,840 --> 00:11:20,240
He doesn't seem to, I mean,
Risky Business, Top Gun, Color

215
00:11:20,240 --> 00:11:21,920
of Money.
If you saw him in The Color of

216
00:11:21,920 --> 00:11:27,440
Money, Oh my God, he played
opposite Paul Newman, you should

217
00:11:27,440 --> 00:11:27,920
see.
That.

218
00:11:28,600 --> 00:11:30,560
It's really, really, really
good.

219
00:11:30,880 --> 00:11:35,840
And he did his own pool shots
and he is amazing.

220
00:11:36,200 --> 00:11:39,760
Born on the 4th of July, A few
good men.

221
00:11:39,760 --> 00:11:42,200
Remember when he was sitting
there and he was talking to Jack

222
00:11:42,200 --> 00:11:45,000
Nicholson and you really can't
handle the truth.

223
00:11:45,280 --> 00:11:47,120
You know that whole thing.
Yeah.

224
00:11:47,760 --> 00:11:52,640
Jerry Maguire, you, you had me
at hello or whatever the hell it

225
00:11:52,640 --> 00:11:54,600
was.
I mean, you just start looking

226
00:11:54,600 --> 00:11:59,920
at every movie, all the Mission
Impossible series, The Last

227
00:11:59,920 --> 00:12:02,320
Samurai when he did that.
That was amazing.

228
00:12:02,320 --> 00:12:03,600
Didn't he learn Japanese for
that?

229
00:12:04,360 --> 00:12:08,200
Yes, Collateral War of the
Worlds.

230
00:12:08,320 --> 00:12:12,360
That was just scary.
Night and day was stupid, Jack.

231
00:12:12,360 --> 00:12:15,840
Creature worlds, they had the
say here in California, the the

232
00:12:16,400 --> 00:12:19,920
parallel.
Edge of tomorrow?

233
00:12:20,040 --> 00:12:21,520
Is that when he was like
repeating himself?

234
00:12:21,520 --> 00:12:22,920
Yeah, that was the.
Repeat.

235
00:12:22,960 --> 00:12:26,360
I love that, but that was him.
That was typical that that.

236
00:12:26,760 --> 00:12:30,640
I mean, he reminds me a lot of
Kevin Costner, you know, in a

237
00:12:30,640 --> 00:12:31,840
way.
In a way, definitely.

238
00:12:32,120 --> 00:12:36,720
And that he's that.
But Costner's not a he's, he's,

239
00:12:36,960 --> 00:12:40,120
he's sort of a, a cowboy
adventuresome guy.

240
00:12:40,120 --> 00:12:41,560
He's more of a Clint Eastwood
guy.

241
00:12:42,160 --> 00:12:46,000
You know, Costner's more Clint
Eastwood than he is Cruz.

242
00:12:46,000 --> 00:12:48,720
Cruz is more.
I don't know anybody that's

243
00:12:48,720 --> 00:12:52,400
that, you know, out there.
Otherworldly.

244
00:12:52,840 --> 00:12:55,320
Well, he's otherworldly.
He's, I mean, I would like to

245
00:12:55,320 --> 00:12:58,280
meet him and touch his skin to
see that he's not an alien

246
00:12:58,440 --> 00:13:00,240
'cause he's like.
Well, that's what I was gonna

247
00:13:00,240 --> 00:13:01,600
say, the whole that kind of
idea.

248
00:13:01,600 --> 00:13:04,280
Are you really?
You know, with the the

249
00:13:04,280 --> 00:13:08,840
Scientology thing is that what
they believe is that we are all

250
00:13:08,840 --> 00:13:12,880
like alien souls that were
encapsulated by aliens.

251
00:13:13,280 --> 00:13:16,360
And then when those aliens died,
they released said souls, right?

252
00:13:16,360 --> 00:13:19,720
And we are those alien souls.
So we're souls and souls inside

253
00:13:19,720 --> 00:13:22,200
of an alien.
So that's what they believe.

254
00:13:22,640 --> 00:13:27,320
And I think that I think that he
might be an alien soul.

255
00:13:27,320 --> 00:13:29,680
It wouldn't shock me.
It really, really wouldn't shock

256
00:13:29,680 --> 00:13:37,360
me.
He's he's, I mean, just he

257
00:13:37,360 --> 00:13:40,200
learned how to fly a helicopter
specifically so that he could

258
00:13:40,200 --> 00:13:42,720
risk his life filming a stunt in
the upcoming.

259
00:13:44,080 --> 00:13:46,960
There's a story on it.
You're like, Oh my God.

260
00:13:47,000 --> 00:13:49,080
Well, we probably thought of it.
He's like, what's cooler than

261
00:13:49,080 --> 00:13:54,440
dying in a helicopter crash?
Absolutely 55 55.

262
00:13:54,840 --> 00:13:59,320
I mean, that's not, you know,
and, and you think about like,

263
00:14:00,560 --> 00:14:04,840
like where you are in life and
how much you have and what you

264
00:14:04,840 --> 00:14:08,560
go for and things like that.
And here he is at 62 and he's

265
00:14:08,560 --> 00:14:13,080
wing walking.
I mean, to, to have that much.

266
00:14:13,560 --> 00:14:19,320
What do you call it?
The verve or zest for life.

267
00:14:20,000 --> 00:14:21,800
I mean, that's what I admire
more than anything else.

268
00:14:21,800 --> 00:14:24,800
It's not the, you know, it's,
it's I like action films and

269
00:14:24,800 --> 00:14:26,840
stuff like that.
But when you see somebody older,

270
00:14:27,400 --> 00:14:33,120
it's really, he's just, he goes
for the ring every single time.

271
00:14:33,200 --> 00:14:36,920
And that to me is just amazing.
It's just like that kind of

272
00:14:37,200 --> 00:14:41,240
motivation, you know, because I,
you expect to see that

273
00:14:41,240 --> 00:14:44,920
motivation in someone your age.
I expect to see it probably a

274
00:14:44,920 --> 00:14:49,640
little more tempered in somebody
in their 30s and 40s, but to

275
00:14:49,640 --> 00:14:53,440
learn how to fly a helicopter
when you're 55 and fly it into a

276
00:14:53,440 --> 00:15:01,320
tunnel is is something that
people in their 50s just don't

277
00:15:01,560 --> 00:15:03,640
do.
I know what you're talking

278
00:15:03,680 --> 00:15:04,360
about.
I know a bunch of.

279
00:15:04,360 --> 00:15:07,800
People, I doubt you could find 5
people on the face of the earth

280
00:15:07,800 --> 00:15:09,600
that has that have done, ever
done that?

281
00:15:10,080 --> 00:15:13,040
That shocked me.
And then wing walking in your

282
00:15:13,040 --> 00:15:17,760
60s.
It just, that is, you know, and

283
00:15:17,760 --> 00:15:20,240
just because you fall off the
wing, if you fall off the wing

284
00:15:20,240 --> 00:15:22,680
and you get it to twirl, you you
got to get out of the twirl

285
00:15:22,680 --> 00:15:25,600
before you can pull your thing.
And you're only three or 4000

286
00:15:25,600 --> 00:15:27,400
feet up.
So you don't have a lot of time

287
00:15:27,400 --> 00:15:31,160
to adjust to stupidness, you
know, and to be in that

288
00:15:31,160 --> 00:15:33,880
physically good of shape.
Because he's not when you see

289
00:15:33,880 --> 00:15:36,520
him because they did the new
Mission Impossible, he takes his

290
00:15:36,520 --> 00:15:38,840
shirt off and all that and he's
running around and yeah, yeah,

291
00:15:38,840 --> 00:15:41,000
yeah.
But he's not like, he's not like

292
00:15:41,000 --> 00:15:49,240
Stallone macho steroid guy.
He is tough looking, but not not

293
00:15:49,240 --> 00:15:53,840
bulky, if that makes sense.
It kind of looks like me.

294
00:15:54,960 --> 00:15:59,680
He's he's the kind of person
that you or I think I could

295
00:15:59,680 --> 00:16:04,520
achieve that physical look.
I couldn't do what he does.

296
00:16:04,520 --> 00:16:07,120
There's no way.
I don't, you know, maybe in

297
00:16:07,120 --> 00:16:14,440
another lifetime or two or three
or six, but to have that that go

298
00:16:14,440 --> 00:16:17,800
for the ring is just so amazing
to me.

299
00:16:17,920 --> 00:16:19,520
Well, I think you need to have
that too, if you're a

300
00:16:19,520 --> 00:16:22,560
Scientologist.
I think that 100%.

301
00:16:22,560 --> 00:16:25,280
Oh, gosh, yeah, 'cause that
makes the the Scientology thing

302
00:16:25,280 --> 00:16:27,920
so attractive, 'cause when you
see him, they're like, oh,

303
00:16:27,920 --> 00:16:33,240
there, there's some sort of, I
don't know, goblet of what is

304
00:16:33,240 --> 00:16:34,720
that?
The goblet of eternal youth,

305
00:16:34,720 --> 00:16:37,000
Right?
And that's kind of what it seems

306
00:16:37,000 --> 00:16:39,200
like, right?
When he's doing these movies,

307
00:16:39,200 --> 00:16:42,760
'cause it's almost like, oh, if
I join Scientology, they, they

308
00:16:42,760 --> 00:16:46,760
have something that, but that's
normal people don't have that.

309
00:16:46,760 --> 00:16:49,080
There's, well, there's, there's
also networking.

310
00:16:49,800 --> 00:16:52,600
Got 100% yeah.
If, if, if all the directors are

311
00:16:52,600 --> 00:16:55,080
Scientologists, Hey, I'm going
to be a Scientologist.

312
00:16:55,080 --> 00:16:58,160
So if I want to be an actor, if
all the directors are Catholics,

313
00:16:58,160 --> 00:17:00,080
I'm going to be a Catholic.
If all the directors are going

314
00:17:00,080 --> 00:17:01,280
to be this, I'm going to be
that.

315
00:17:01,320 --> 00:17:02,880
You know what I mean?
If they're all progressive,

316
00:17:02,880 --> 00:17:05,079
we're going to be progressive,
we're all Republican, I'll be

317
00:17:05,079 --> 00:17:08,119
Republican.
It just it, it, it basically,

318
00:17:08,119 --> 00:17:09,960
you're going to modify your
behavior to get a job.

319
00:17:09,960 --> 00:17:13,960
And then and whether people can
say no, I can't mortify my, my

320
00:17:14,200 --> 00:17:15,720
ethics.
It's like, Hey, wait till you

321
00:17:15,720 --> 00:17:18,680
don't get food and live
outdoors.

322
00:17:19,520 --> 00:17:23,119
Do you ever see?
The video of him doing the, the

323
00:17:23,119 --> 00:17:28,520
ad for Scientology back in 2008
or 2009, It's, it's insane.

324
00:17:28,920 --> 00:17:32,240
It's crazy.
It's so crazy because he he'll

325
00:17:32,240 --> 00:17:35,720
just start smiling and then
laughing and then it's almost as

326
00:17:35,720 --> 00:17:39,560
if it's like an extremely
bipolar version, like on camera,

327
00:17:39,560 --> 00:17:41,560
like recording this thing maybe.
He is.

328
00:17:41,960 --> 00:17:45,440
About these, I mean, I think
they call them when it's people

329
00:17:45,440 --> 00:17:49,680
that are trying to like deter
you from like the vision of

330
00:17:49,680 --> 00:17:54,600
Elrond and it's I can't it might
it might be deterrence or

331
00:17:54,600 --> 00:17:57,920
something like that.
But he's like I you got a lot of

332
00:17:57,920 --> 00:18:00,960
deterrence in my life and he
just go goes in and he talks

333
00:18:00,960 --> 00:18:03,600
about all these people that have
been distractions like that.

334
00:18:03,600 --> 00:18:07,640
I remember when he went on Oprah
2006 when he was in love with

335
00:18:07,640 --> 00:18:11,800
Katie Holmes wife.
Number 23, well, he's.

336
00:18:11,800 --> 00:18:14,560
Jumping on the couch and she's
like Tom, calm down, calm down.

337
00:18:14,920 --> 00:18:17,000
He was not coming.
He's jumping because he was in

338
00:18:17,040 --> 00:18:19,000
love.
Well, but think about it.

339
00:18:19,000 --> 00:18:20,920
That's like somebody that does
in their 20s.

340
00:18:21,320 --> 00:18:23,200
But he was 30 something at that
point, yeah.

341
00:18:23,440 --> 00:18:25,520
But remember when you were in
love the first time, when you

342
00:18:25,520 --> 00:18:27,960
were that and you saw that and
you're like, my God, that guy's

343
00:18:27,960 --> 00:18:31,120
a kid.
You know, maybe, maybe he's got

344
00:18:31,120 --> 00:18:33,480
Arrested Development and that
the that's the reason he's a

345
00:18:33,480 --> 00:18:35,600
Wing wank when he's in the 60s.
I think so.

346
00:18:35,600 --> 00:18:40,000
Well, then Scientology took all
of the children that he made

347
00:18:40,000 --> 00:18:44,240
with Katie away and or they,
she, she basically was like, you

348
00:18:44,240 --> 00:18:46,160
can no longer see the kids if
you're a Scientologist.

349
00:18:46,640 --> 00:18:49,600
Yeah, she's been fighting the
the indoctrination of the

350
00:18:49,600 --> 00:18:52,840
children.
Yeah, he took basically

351
00:18:52,840 --> 00:18:55,240
Scientology over his own family,
which is interesting.

352
00:18:55,760 --> 00:18:57,680
Yeah.
No, I mean, you look at people.

353
00:18:57,680 --> 00:19:00,520
Who's Van Halen the guitarist?
Eddie.

354
00:19:00,560 --> 00:19:02,320
Oh, Eddie Van Halen.
Remember him?

355
00:19:02,840 --> 00:19:04,920
No.
What was the what was the thing

356
00:19:04,920 --> 00:19:07,840
that?
Who was it that said it?

357
00:19:08,480 --> 00:19:12,680
Who was the Sammy Hagar when he
was talking to him and he said

358
00:19:12,680 --> 00:19:15,080
he always wore this long jacket
and he carried 2 bottles of wine

359
00:19:15,080 --> 00:19:16,800
in there and he's drinking all
the time.

360
00:19:17,760 --> 00:19:22,680
And Sammy said something to him
about, you know, being OK to go

361
00:19:22,720 --> 00:19:25,920
on, you know, the set and
practice or do something or

362
00:19:26,160 --> 00:19:27,400
whatever.
And he goes, you know what?

363
00:19:27,400 --> 00:19:29,160
I gave up my wife and my kid for
this.

364
00:19:29,520 --> 00:19:32,880
I ain't giving it up for you.
You're like.

365
00:19:32,880 --> 00:19:37,120
Whoa, Well, that's alcohol.
That's not a religion or a.

366
00:19:37,520 --> 00:19:40,520
Well, I mean.
I don't think it's a cult, is

367
00:19:40,520 --> 00:19:41,560
it?
I don't know when you're.

368
00:19:41,560 --> 00:19:45,120
I think, well, I mean if you
look at the way that people you

369
00:19:45,120 --> 00:19:45,920
know in a.
Way.

370
00:19:45,920 --> 00:19:48,320
In a way the.
Way that people roll up our new

371
00:19:48,320 --> 00:19:50,400
dear leader.
You know, you, you got a little

372
00:19:50,400 --> 00:19:53,760
bit of that going across.
Indoctrination is an interesting

373
00:19:53,760 --> 00:19:54,960
concept.
What do you think about

374
00:19:54,960 --> 00:19:56,880
something like alcohol versus
religion?

375
00:19:57,520 --> 00:19:58,960
Religion, yeah.
Why?

376
00:19:58,960 --> 00:20:02,960
Why is it, you know, people that
believe that the earth is 6000

377
00:20:02,960 --> 00:20:05,640
years old?
Anything that blinds your senses

378
00:20:05,640 --> 00:20:07,240
is kind of an interesting thing.
And you?

379
00:20:07,480 --> 00:20:08,760
Can't.
You can't deter that.

380
00:20:09,800 --> 00:20:11,680
And that this is this and this
is the way it is.

381
00:20:11,680 --> 00:20:13,640
This is life.
And you know, when people talk

382
00:20:13,640 --> 00:20:16,080
about abortion, it's this, that
and the other.

383
00:20:16,080 --> 00:20:22,280
And you go like, well, do you
realize that in 1976, the, the

384
00:20:22,280 --> 00:20:28,320
Southern Baptist Church, the
whole group thought a woman's

385
00:20:28,320 --> 00:20:33,720
right to choose was paramount.
The church, the church thought

386
00:20:33,720 --> 00:20:38,640
that.
Think about that and they change

387
00:20:38,640 --> 00:20:41,680
their views.
I mean, you start to look at

388
00:20:41,680 --> 00:20:44,520
this stuff and it's just like,
Oh my gosh, they, they never

389
00:20:44,520 --> 00:20:46,440
believed that.
They didn't believe that until

390
00:20:46,440 --> 00:20:48,840
they found something that they
could get more people to come in

391
00:20:48,840 --> 00:20:52,240
and give them money for.
It's it's, it's, it's a sucker's

392
00:20:52,240 --> 00:20:54,560
bet.
It's live.

393
00:20:54,960 --> 00:20:58,840
I know it's cash.
Sorry, it's cash.

394
00:20:58,840 --> 00:21:00,240
That's what it is.
Cash hold it's.

395
00:21:00,240 --> 00:21:04,320
Cash and control, you know, and
it's control over women.

396
00:21:04,480 --> 00:21:07,640
Well, that was the whole thing
with Aaron Cairo who did what is

397
00:21:07,640 --> 00:21:10,840
it Braille skateboarding, which
was really took off on his

398
00:21:11,080 --> 00:21:15,400
YouTube channel and he donated
$850,000 from his business,

399
00:21:15,400 --> 00:21:18,920
basically sunk his business,
never paid his employees and to

400
00:21:18,920 --> 00:21:22,680
Scientology and now he's the
head of the Scientologists like

401
00:21:22,680 --> 00:21:26,720
center in San Francisco.
And but like, what is that?

402
00:21:26,720 --> 00:21:27,760
Like what do you think that gets
you?

403
00:21:27,920 --> 00:21:30,320
What do you think that really
gets you if you're the leader

404
00:21:30,360 --> 00:21:32,840
of?
Well, they have like when you've

405
00:21:32,840 --> 00:21:39,480
seen who was the one that was
Kevin, what's his name's wife.

406
00:21:39,520 --> 00:21:41,160
And she went on and did the
Scientology.

407
00:21:41,200 --> 00:21:44,120
Kevin James, Yeah.
Yeah, his wife, whatever she

408
00:21:44,120 --> 00:21:46,440
was.
I remember her mother and father

409
00:21:46,440 --> 00:21:48,960
were saying.
Yeah, her mother and father are

410
00:21:48,960 --> 00:21:50,840
Scientologists and they've
disowned her.

411
00:21:51,240 --> 00:21:54,080
And I mean, think about that.
That you would, I, you're

412
00:21:54,080 --> 00:21:56,600
Catholic and I, I'm not going to
be Catholic or you're

413
00:21:56,600 --> 00:21:59,040
Presbyterian or you're
Scientologist or you're whatever

414
00:21:59,040 --> 00:22:01,560
you are, you know, whatever
belief system you have.

415
00:22:01,800 --> 00:22:06,040
And that I believe differently.
And that you for that you, you

416
00:22:06,040 --> 00:22:08,360
won't talk to me anymore.
I'm gone.

417
00:22:08,520 --> 00:22:12,240
I'm dead to you, so to speak.
And, and you can't interact.

418
00:22:12,400 --> 00:22:14,920
And, and she came out and just,
she hammered him and said to,

419
00:22:14,920 --> 00:22:17,760
you know, that the, the people
at the, at the higher level that

420
00:22:17,760 --> 00:22:20,480
put the most money in, they have
their own houses and they have a

421
00:22:20,480 --> 00:22:22,600
community.
They have it in the Hollywood

422
00:22:22,600 --> 00:22:26,000
Hills, you know, and, or Utah or
something like that.

423
00:22:26,000 --> 00:22:28,360
And they they have these around
the country where they have

424
00:22:28,360 --> 00:22:31,480
like, you know, 20 homes or 30
homes where they have the

425
00:22:32,080 --> 00:22:35,520
executive base that lives.
Oh yeah, and it's like

426
00:22:35,520 --> 00:22:37,680
impossible to leave the base or
something.

427
00:22:37,800 --> 00:22:40,120
I remember that exactly.
Exactly.

428
00:22:40,120 --> 00:22:43,880
So you get to a certain you get
to a certain level and you're

429
00:22:44,560 --> 00:22:47,200
it's unable for you to change
your mind.

430
00:22:47,440 --> 00:22:51,880
You know which, I think that
that I think that a lot of

431
00:22:51,880 --> 00:22:57,400
people that go into these things
that they rely on are looking

432
00:22:57,400 --> 00:23:02,800
for crutch.
Is that a wrong way to put it?

433
00:23:02,880 --> 00:23:04,320
I'm not quite sure.
Well.

434
00:23:04,360 --> 00:23:06,880
I think also at the same time, a
lot of people say, oh, I'm too

435
00:23:06,880 --> 00:23:09,360
smart to ever be indoctrinated
into a cult.

436
00:23:09,360 --> 00:23:13,360
I'm too, I'm too intelligent.
I that would never happen to me.

437
00:23:13,360 --> 00:23:16,000
And I will tell you it can
happen absolutely anybody.

438
00:23:16,240 --> 00:23:18,680
It doesn't matter.
Like specifically people that

439
00:23:18,680 --> 00:23:22,800
are emotionally damaged or
emotionally distraught.

440
00:23:23,120 --> 00:23:25,360
But I would say that
indoctrination could happen to

441
00:23:25,360 --> 00:23:28,600
absolutely anybody.
Look at the propaganda that's in

442
00:23:28,600 --> 00:23:30,840
the news nowadays, right?
Well, there's so many different

443
00:23:30,840 --> 00:23:32,360
levels of indoctrination.
Think about it.

444
00:23:32,360 --> 00:23:35,200
When you're in your, your, when
I was in college, the

445
00:23:35,200 --> 00:23:38,480
indoctrination was everybody
drinks everybody.

446
00:23:38,480 --> 00:23:41,640
Yeah, when you get, when you get
into your early 20s and was in

447
00:23:41,640 --> 00:23:47,440
my first professional job, you
know, three days a week, people

448
00:23:47,440 --> 00:23:51,280
go to happy hour and drink their
faces off and come in the next

449
00:23:51,280 --> 00:23:56,440
day just ugly faced.
But that was cool.

450
00:23:56,880 --> 00:23:59,560
And that's what everybody did.
And that was, you know, and I

451
00:23:59,560 --> 00:24:03,280
mean, most people, when you have
responsible people that were

452
00:24:03,280 --> 00:24:07,280
older there, they didn't indulge
in it, but the newbies all went

453
00:24:07,280 --> 00:24:11,280
out and partied somehow.
That was, you know, it's a rite

454
00:24:11,280 --> 00:24:14,360
of passage.
And it was, I mean, you could,

455
00:24:14,440 --> 00:24:16,640
you could argue that it was an
indoctrination because the

456
00:24:16,640 --> 00:24:21,160
people didn't go out and party.
They were not in the clique in

457
00:24:21,160 --> 00:24:24,600
the company and they didn't grow
at the same rate as the others.

458
00:24:24,600 --> 00:24:28,880
So, you know, to some degree you
can see a little bit of

459
00:24:28,880 --> 00:24:32,480
indoctrination in every single
culture or subculture, you know,

460
00:24:32,480 --> 00:24:35,160
and I, I mean, I saw, we saw it
in our company, you know, in

461
00:24:35,160 --> 00:24:37,720
companies, you know that, I
mean, you see that where people

462
00:24:37,720 --> 00:24:42,000
get they're accepted or not.
And those that are accepted

463
00:24:43,280 --> 00:24:47,880
basically get more rights,
rules, money, perceive things,

464
00:24:47,880 --> 00:24:50,200
everything, you know.
So if you're part of a group,

465
00:24:51,200 --> 00:24:56,600
you know, you get more usually
usually, but usually you give

466
00:24:56,600 --> 00:24:58,880
more.
But then and the person at the

467
00:24:58,880 --> 00:25:01,240
top just takes more.
It's all, I mean, all that

468
00:25:01,240 --> 00:25:01,720
stuff.
I that's.

469
00:25:01,720 --> 00:25:04,200
Kind of what the some degrees of
things about, like I don't think

470
00:25:04,200 --> 00:25:07,200
that you necessarily gain
anything other than like a

471
00:25:07,200 --> 00:25:10,000
higher Theta reading, which
means you have to donate more

472
00:25:10,000 --> 00:25:12,200
money anyway to get to the next
Theta reading.

473
00:25:12,200 --> 00:25:14,880
Right, 'cause it's kind of like
a pyramid scheme, but a pyramid

474
00:25:14,880 --> 00:25:19,800
scheme in which like the reward
is just a label instead of like

475
00:25:19,960 --> 00:25:22,920
an actual physical thing, like a
pedometer or something like

476
00:25:22,920 --> 00:25:24,920
that.
From the jump rope to heart kind

477
00:25:24,920 --> 00:25:27,720
of thing from when I was in
elementary school.

478
00:25:28,320 --> 00:25:28,640
Yeah.
Well.

479
00:25:29,200 --> 00:25:31,040
Wonder about like being a
Mormon?

480
00:25:31,600 --> 00:25:34,800
Is it like that?
I think that's more religious

481
00:25:34,800 --> 00:25:38,440
based, like that's an actual
like, oh, we had this prophet

482
00:25:38,440 --> 00:25:41,720
that it what didn't write a book
like a sci-fi book because

483
00:25:41,720 --> 00:25:44,840
Elrond made a sci-fi book and
that's what it was all about.

484
00:25:44,840 --> 00:25:46,920
But then he was like, well, this
isn't doing well.

485
00:25:46,920 --> 00:25:52,760
Let me pitch this as an ulterior
like kind of belief system,

486
00:25:52,880 --> 00:25:55,240
right?
But at the same time, I mean, is

487
00:25:55,240 --> 00:25:57,200
Catholicism similar to
Scientology?

488
00:25:57,200 --> 00:26:00,640
Of course it is because you're
donating money, you're tithing,

489
00:26:00,960 --> 00:26:02,960
right?
So you're doing that, you're

490
00:26:02,960 --> 00:26:07,600
donating what is said to be 15%
of your income, which I don't

491
00:26:07,600 --> 00:26:10,400
think everybody does, of course,
but some people do.

492
00:26:11,240 --> 00:26:14,600
And then that ends up going
where to support priests

493
00:26:14,600 --> 00:26:19,320
nationwide in disguising them of
the sexually assaults, sexual

494
00:26:19,320 --> 00:26:21,720
assaults of.
Mostly Catholic that does that.

495
00:26:21,920 --> 00:26:24,160
Right, that's what I just.
Said they do the 5% time, yeah.

496
00:26:24,680 --> 00:26:27,080
5% five.
Percent tied for Catholics.

497
00:26:27,080 --> 00:26:29,840
I think a Mormons is 10.
It's 5:00 to 10:00 somewhere in

498
00:26:29,840 --> 00:26:31,520
that range.
I think what it ever it is, is

499
00:26:31,960 --> 00:26:33,440
you know, whatever they can get
you to do.

500
00:26:33,480 --> 00:26:36,520
I, I, I remember the same thing
when my, my wife and I were

501
00:26:36,520 --> 00:26:41,480
going to get married and her
parents were Catholic and they

502
00:26:41,480 --> 00:26:44,240
took us to the Catholic guy and
we're 302930.

503
00:26:44,240 --> 00:26:46,360
And it's like we are all set
financially and all these kind

504
00:26:46,360 --> 00:26:50,880
of things like that.
And I, I'm not religious, no

505
00:26:50,880 --> 00:26:53,880
offense to those that are or
take it if you wish.

506
00:26:53,880 --> 00:26:57,160
I don't care.
My wife was not religious or she

507
00:26:57,160 --> 00:26:59,160
was Catholic.
She was raised Catholic.

508
00:26:59,400 --> 00:27:01,400
She went to a Catholic school in
the first few years and then

509
00:27:01,400 --> 00:27:07,400
afterward were dribbled away
from it because of the lack of

510
00:27:07,400 --> 00:27:10,640
reality.
But I think that we went there,

511
00:27:10,640 --> 00:27:13,960
we went saw the guy across the
table, the mother was Catholic.

512
00:27:13,960 --> 00:27:16,040
And she said, yeah, I believe
that, you know, this is going to

513
00:27:16,040 --> 00:27:19,520
be a simple thing.
And so we go there and the guy

514
00:27:19,520 --> 00:27:22,600
just starts grilling us like,
you know, do you go to your

515
00:27:22,600 --> 00:27:24,000
church?
When's the last time you went to

516
00:27:24,000 --> 00:27:25,520
church?
And I go, I haven't been at

517
00:27:25,520 --> 00:27:28,680
church in 10 years.
Well, if you want to be married

518
00:27:28,680 --> 00:27:32,920
in my church, you will have to
go to your local Catholic

519
00:27:32,920 --> 00:27:34,680
brethren.
And he gives us the name in

520
00:27:34,760 --> 00:27:37,440
Arlington, where we lived at the
time, from now until the

521
00:27:37,440 --> 00:27:39,160
wedding, which was like 6 months
away.

522
00:27:39,760 --> 00:27:48,440
And I'm like, just quiet.
Say a word and and, and you and

523
00:27:48,440 --> 00:27:53,920
this, this is the key.
You will have to tithe every

524
00:27:53,920 --> 00:27:56,840
week and we will have to see a
total.

525
00:27:57,360 --> 00:28:00,280
And I was just like, so it's the
bribe.

526
00:28:00,440 --> 00:28:03,280
It's the full on bribe.
And then to use the church.

527
00:28:03,280 --> 00:28:06,160
Then you do do some other
separate tithe fee, whatever the

528
00:28:06,160 --> 00:28:08,240
case may be.
We walked out of there and my

529
00:28:08,240 --> 00:28:14,600
wife was disgusted, you know,
and she's like, no, no, we're

530
00:28:14,600 --> 00:28:15,800
not getting, We're not getting
married there.

531
00:28:15,800 --> 00:28:19,080
So we ended up getting married
in Zor Baptist Church was a

532
00:28:19,080 --> 00:28:22,080
really neat church.
The guy, we went to him and he

533
00:28:22,080 --> 00:28:26,760
was just like, well, yeah, you
can use my church, But all I ask

534
00:28:26,760 --> 00:28:30,000
is that most of my attendees
here are in their 80s.

535
00:28:30,000 --> 00:28:32,560
So if you could move the
furniture back after you're

536
00:28:32,560 --> 00:28:36,000
done.
And then we asked him to be the

537
00:28:36,720 --> 00:28:38,360
official.
Ordained I am.

538
00:28:38,560 --> 00:28:40,440
Yeah, yeah.
And he's going like, you want me

539
00:28:40,440 --> 00:28:41,640
to do it?
I haven't done a wedding in

540
00:28:41,640 --> 00:28:43,120
forever.
Oh, I would love to.

541
00:28:43,120 --> 00:28:45,280
And you were just like, so it
was.

542
00:28:45,280 --> 00:28:49,880
So there's a certain thing when
you go to church where you feel

543
00:28:49,880 --> 00:28:53,680
a sense of love.
And I've gone to churches where

544
00:28:53,680 --> 00:28:58,280
I feel that sense throughout.
And then there's other churches

545
00:28:58,280 --> 00:29:03,960
I've gone to that have been,
there's a sense of, I don't know

546
00:29:03,960 --> 00:29:08,880
what it is control.
I'm better than you, you know,

547
00:29:09,200 --> 00:29:13,320
it, it's just, it's very odd.
But it's, it's the heart, I

548
00:29:13,320 --> 00:29:15,760
would say of the church when you
go and you listen to that and

549
00:29:15,760 --> 00:29:18,720
you're just like, and I don't
really care, you know, because I

550
00:29:18,720 --> 00:29:29,240
don't, I don't, I don't believe
that black Book and all 4200

551
00:29:29,240 --> 00:29:31,920
inaccuracies.
I don't, I don't accept that,

552
00:29:33,800 --> 00:29:36,480
but a lot of people do.
And now I'm OK with that.

553
00:29:36,680 --> 00:29:39,880
But I, but it, when I see it,
you, you can see it.

554
00:29:39,880 --> 00:29:42,600
People fellowship is something
that people say and it's, and

555
00:29:42,600 --> 00:29:44,920
it's, it's just true.
When you go to places where

556
00:29:45,240 --> 00:29:47,560
everybody's happy and they seem
happy to meet you.

557
00:29:47,560 --> 00:29:51,200
And, and I feel like it's not
contrived.

558
00:29:51,400 --> 00:29:52,840
I mean, 'cause that's kind of
the big thing.

559
00:29:53,920 --> 00:29:57,000
Yeah, it feels contrived, but
they also do What is it?

560
00:29:57,400 --> 00:30:00,560
They do a lot of good things
like a, A and stuff like that.

561
00:30:00,560 --> 00:30:02,800
And that's that's helped a lot
of people, right.

562
00:30:03,120 --> 00:30:04,760
So I think.
Well, we're we're from what we

563
00:30:04,760 --> 00:30:06,360
know, we don't.
They don't track that.

564
00:30:06,520 --> 00:30:08,680
You're not allowed to track it.
I don't know the people.

565
00:30:08,680 --> 00:30:10,320
That's what I'm always like,
interested in.

566
00:30:10,320 --> 00:30:11,880
I mean the thing that the thing
that I thought.

567
00:30:12,360 --> 00:30:15,440
I mean, sobriety has helped
people and if you find it

568
00:30:15,440 --> 00:30:17,840
through a a which there has been
a number.

569
00:30:17,960 --> 00:30:21,840
Of people you argue that you you
trade one addiction for one

570
00:30:21,840 --> 00:30:25,400
that's acceptable.
You know, going to meetings,

571
00:30:25,560 --> 00:30:27,440
it's not always contrived
through religion.

572
00:30:27,880 --> 00:30:30,280
Yeah.
There's agnostic meetings, yeah.

573
00:30:30,320 --> 00:30:36,400
But I think I think of the, what
the heck was I going to say that

574
00:30:36,400 --> 00:30:38,880
we were talking about Tom Cruise
and here we are talking about a

575
00:30:38,880 --> 00:30:42,240
a isn't that funny?
The the the the drift.

576
00:30:42,320 --> 00:30:44,160
That's how it goes.
You think about Cruise, who

577
00:30:44,160 --> 00:30:45,680
would you?
Who would you like?

578
00:30:46,000 --> 00:30:48,720
I mean I always thought Cruise
and Pitt but I think more it

579
00:30:48,720 --> 00:30:53,520
might be more Cruise and Damon
are more but Damon's a a really

580
00:30:53,520 --> 00:30:56,080
good actor.
He's more of an actor.

581
00:30:56,080 --> 00:30:57,800
I wouldn't say.
I don't know if there's anybody

582
00:30:57,800 --> 00:31:00,880
quite like.
I would say Steve McQueen is the

583
00:31:00,880 --> 00:31:04,080
closest.
I Yeah, Steve McQueen is

584
00:31:04,080 --> 00:31:07,040
probably the closest.
I guess The Rock does some stunt

585
00:31:07,040 --> 00:31:07,760
stuff.
Does he?

586
00:31:07,760 --> 00:31:09,560
I don't really know.
I don't really know.

587
00:31:09,640 --> 00:31:10,920
He's.
Mr. Physical I.

588
00:31:11,080 --> 00:31:12,720
Mean you know who does you.
Listen to him.

589
00:31:12,720 --> 00:31:17,280
He's he's two or three hours a
day of working out every single

590
00:31:17,280 --> 00:31:19,320
day.
Yeah, but he's also a liar.

591
00:31:19,320 --> 00:31:20,600
So I mean, there's that.
Yeah.

592
00:31:20,600 --> 00:31:23,360
Well, there's, I mean, there's a
whole photo of like him.

593
00:31:23,360 --> 00:31:26,800
He's like, I ripped off my gate
today because it was going to

594
00:31:26,800 --> 00:31:29,960
make me late to set and it's
like a 700 LB gate.

595
00:31:29,960 --> 00:31:31,800
And I'm like, you did not do
that.

596
00:31:31,800 --> 00:31:33,160
Like that's just not.
True.

597
00:31:33,160 --> 00:31:35,880
Well, maybe he ran over with his
car.

598
00:31:36,520 --> 00:31:38,240
Exactly.
I think that that's what it was,

599
00:31:38,240 --> 00:31:40,680
yeah.
Well, you know, some people

600
00:31:40,680 --> 00:31:43,360
exaggerate.
Some people I don't know.

601
00:31:43,360 --> 00:31:45,160
Everybody that does that.
I exaggerate.

602
00:31:45,160 --> 00:31:47,440
I don't know anybody.
No, you never exaggerate.

603
00:31:47,440 --> 00:31:50,320
I never.
I am just so full of shit

604
00:31:50,320 --> 00:31:53,080
sometimes it's just like but it
I never get it.

605
00:31:53,080 --> 00:31:56,040
I never get it above my lower
lip because then it it tastes

606
00:31:56,040 --> 00:31:57,720
bad.
Because then you suffocate.

607
00:31:57,720 --> 00:32:01,880
You suffocate.
I can still breathe, you know,

608
00:32:01,920 --> 00:32:04,080
but I just don't want to swallow
my own poop, you know?

609
00:32:04,080 --> 00:32:06,680
That's the when you get to a
certain point where you're

610
00:32:07,560 --> 00:32:09,400
elaborating on the story that
didn't happen.

611
00:32:09,960 --> 00:32:14,720
And what am I thinking?
My I saw Magnolia last year.

612
00:32:14,720 --> 00:32:17,560
Tom Cruise was in that that was
Paul Thomas Anderson directed

613
00:32:17,560 --> 00:32:24,040
that really it was from 2002 and
that's allegedly Paul Thomas

614
00:32:24,040 --> 00:32:26,160
Anderson's best movie of all
time.

615
00:32:26,360 --> 00:32:29,600
And I would, I would say so I
would say that it definitely.

616
00:32:29,600 --> 00:32:31,960
What you think?
I would say that it's better

617
00:32:31,960 --> 00:32:35,000
than Boogie Nights.
I would say that really, yeah.

618
00:32:35,040 --> 00:32:36,120
I think it's.
What was it about?

619
00:32:36,720 --> 00:32:40,640
It's about how, shit, that's an
interesting kind of thing.

620
00:32:40,880 --> 00:32:45,280
It's about coincidence, the art
of coincidence, and how 5 or 6

621
00:32:45,280 --> 00:32:50,880
people's different lives are so
intertwined to a tee, to where

622
00:32:50,880 --> 00:32:53,040
you have different personalities
that clash.

623
00:32:53,040 --> 00:32:56,680
And the idea that life is this
monotonous journey full of

624
00:32:56,680 --> 00:32:59,600
suffering in which everybody
experiences, and that's what

625
00:32:59,600 --> 00:33:02,640
it's about.
When you when you said that,

626
00:33:02,640 --> 00:33:04,960
when you said that, that made me
think of Quentin Tarantino's

627
00:33:04,960 --> 00:33:08,240
movie Pulp Fiction.
It's kind of similar in a the.

628
00:33:08,240 --> 00:33:11,320
Way they're intertwined and how
they show bits and pieces and

629
00:33:11,320 --> 00:33:14,080
they're near the end.
A random day in San Fernando

630
00:33:14,080 --> 00:33:16,160
Valley.
A dying father, a young wife, a

631
00:33:16,160 --> 00:33:18,560
male caretaker, a famous lost
son.

632
00:33:18,640 --> 00:33:20,760
Police officer in love, a boy, a
genius.

633
00:33:21,240 --> 00:33:24,480
Wow, OK.
It's really good.

634
00:33:24,880 --> 00:33:27,400
It's really long too, it's like
3 hours and something.

635
00:33:27,800 --> 00:33:29,480
But it was worth it though.
You got a.

636
00:33:29,800 --> 00:33:33,600
It wasn't like the Irishman.
Oh God man, I don't understand

637
00:33:33,600 --> 00:33:36,400
that like I remember.
It was a great movie.

638
00:33:36,440 --> 00:33:39,280
No, it wasn't, no.
I just don't like a lot of

639
00:33:39,280 --> 00:33:40,880
Scorsese's movies.
I just don't.

640
00:33:41,200 --> 00:33:44,320
I just don't enjoy I think.
That he keeps getting longer and

641
00:33:44,320 --> 00:33:47,400
longer, and maybe they're
getting lazier in the editing

642
00:33:47,400 --> 00:33:49,320
room.
Because the flower mode is so

643
00:33:49,320 --> 00:33:50,880
boring.
I was like, I just don't like

644
00:33:50,880 --> 00:33:51,840
this.
They lose excitement.

645
00:33:52,160 --> 00:33:53,880
Yeah.
You know.

646
00:33:54,240 --> 00:33:58,680
Well, especially since, like the
whole idea of it, it's just like

647
00:33:58,680 --> 00:34:01,640
stealing oil from Indians.
And then like, is he really a

648
00:34:01,640 --> 00:34:04,600
bad guy if he poisoned her, but
he loved her And it's just like

649
00:34:04,600 --> 00:34:09,040
shut the no like stop, like stop
trying to derive like these kind

650
00:34:09,040 --> 00:34:12,880
of meticulous questions about
evil people from history.

651
00:34:12,880 --> 00:34:14,360
Like I don't, I don't
understand.

652
00:34:14,360 --> 00:34:16,199
Well, you did the same thing
with The Wolf of Wall Street,

653
00:34:16,199 --> 00:34:19,199
which really, really, really
pissed me off.

654
00:34:19,280 --> 00:34:21,880
I mean, it's not my job to be a
mom in it.

655
00:34:21,920 --> 00:34:26,360
Well, but you're showing the
world that this dude that ripped

656
00:34:26,360 --> 00:34:30,159
off these people in Florida had
this wonderful cocaine fused

657
00:34:30,159 --> 00:34:32,960
life that was beautiful and flew
yachts and everything like that.

658
00:34:33,120 --> 00:34:38,400
But you know, when what that was
built on was I would love to see

659
00:34:38,400 --> 00:34:44,159
a movie of the people that they
swindled and see what happened

660
00:34:44,159 --> 00:34:48,080
to them and see, you know, and
seeing the guy in the little

661
00:34:48,080 --> 00:34:51,920
single room apartment with a,
with a light hanging down eating

662
00:34:51,920 --> 00:34:54,600
cat food.
And that that's the guy that

663
00:34:54,600 --> 00:34:58,960
Jordan Belfort ripped off.
That guy had a nice apartment,

664
00:34:59,080 --> 00:35:02,680
lived, had money, Social
Security, he worked his whole

665
00:35:02,680 --> 00:35:05,400
life.
And those fuckers took it.

666
00:35:06,040 --> 00:35:08,240
They took it and they swindled
them and they swindled them

667
00:35:08,240 --> 00:35:09,680
basically because they're
lonely.

668
00:35:10,320 --> 00:35:12,080
Old people are lonely in
Florida.

669
00:35:12,280 --> 00:35:14,520
And if you want to RIP them off,
all you got to do is talk to

670
00:35:14,520 --> 00:35:16,960
them and be nice to them and
friendly to them and they will

671
00:35:16,960 --> 00:35:19,640
start to trust you.
And they got their money and

672
00:35:19,640 --> 00:35:21,880
they took it.
Well, I think about the whole

673
00:35:21,880 --> 00:35:23,600
idea.
They should.

674
00:35:23,600 --> 00:35:25,800
They should take them out of an
alley and just beat the hell

675
00:35:25,800 --> 00:35:28,480
out.
You imagine your grandma's being

676
00:35:28,960 --> 00:35:31,840
homeless, be imagine your
grandma's homeless.

677
00:35:31,840 --> 00:35:33,600
That's what you got to just say
like that's.

678
00:35:33,600 --> 00:35:36,600
Right, I mean and, and, and
people like look at that and

679
00:35:36,600 --> 00:35:39,600
say, oh wow, that's so that's so
glamorous and cool.

680
00:35:39,600 --> 00:35:41,560
It really want to be a
stockbroker and it's like, I

681
00:35:41,560 --> 00:35:43,320
want to beat you to death with
aluminum bat.

682
00:35:43,440 --> 00:35:46,480
You know that, that's what that
makes me think when I see that

683
00:35:46,520 --> 00:35:50,200
it's like you, you and, and he
went to jail.

684
00:35:50,200 --> 00:35:52,080
He got 12 years.
Oh wow.

685
00:35:52,280 --> 00:35:55,760
He, he served his time and he
was supposed to give something

686
00:35:55,760 --> 00:35:58,240
like $10 million in restitution.
He's not.

687
00:35:58,400 --> 00:36:00,520
He's given like a couple
100,000.

688
00:36:00,720 --> 00:36:03,280
He hides his money all the time
and he goes around and he gives

689
00:36:03,280 --> 00:36:07,280
pep talks and you're like, how
sad.

690
00:36:07,640 --> 00:36:11,880
How friggin sad the people would
follow a piece of shit like

691
00:36:11,880 --> 00:36:14,960
that, you know?
And he charges for these things

692
00:36:14,960 --> 00:36:18,320
to tell you what a thief he was.
And you're like, you know,

693
00:36:18,520 --> 00:36:23,720
you're being swindled again.
And the whole reason he can do

694
00:36:23,720 --> 00:36:29,320
it and he has any what so say so
whatsoever is because Scorsese

695
00:36:29,480 --> 00:36:33,320
did a movie about him.
Bingo.

696
00:36:34,040 --> 00:36:36,480
There was a book and no one read
the book and everybody said The

697
00:36:36,480 --> 00:36:38,440
Wolf of Wall Street.
What do you mean?

698
00:36:38,600 --> 00:36:42,440
You're, you're a freaking
criminal, you know?

699
00:36:43,920 --> 00:36:46,800
That is interesting, yeah.
You know, the whole reason that

700
00:36:46,800 --> 00:36:50,480
anybody loves that or loves it
is because DiCaprio is a

701
00:36:50,520 --> 00:36:54,240
freaking He's otherworldly when
it comes to acting.

702
00:36:54,440 --> 00:36:56,920
Of course.
And he made that a likable

703
00:36:56,920 --> 00:37:01,240
person, you know, And he made it
all seem like, and, and they

704
00:37:01,240 --> 00:37:03,480
never saw, they never showed the
hurt side.

705
00:37:03,480 --> 00:37:07,000
And people asked Scorsese, oh,
it's not my job to do that.

706
00:37:07,000 --> 00:37:12,640
And it's like, well, you gave
people a sense of what this was,

707
00:37:13,200 --> 00:37:16,880
and it's just not true.
I'm just wondering how much

708
00:37:16,880 --> 00:37:20,680
money Belfort made off of those
that movie he.

709
00:37:20,680 --> 00:37:24,240
Was not allowed to make anything
but something somehow they,

710
00:37:24,280 --> 00:37:26,920
they, they gave him things.
And because it was supposed to

711
00:37:26,920 --> 00:37:30,240
go to restitution, because he,
he owes, you know, he stole, I

712
00:37:30,240 --> 00:37:33,920
think like somewhere between 12
and 20 million from people,

713
00:37:34,120 --> 00:37:37,480
which isn't, you know, it's not
Bernie Madoff stuff.

714
00:37:37,600 --> 00:37:41,320
It's, it's, but you know, you're
talking about people that saved

715
00:37:41,320 --> 00:37:44,440
their whole lives that had 500
or 800,000.

716
00:37:44,680 --> 00:37:47,760
They lived in Florida, they had
Social Security.

717
00:37:47,960 --> 00:37:51,040
They had enough money to live in
a, in a, in a reasonable house,

718
00:37:51,040 --> 00:37:53,160
in a reasonable neighborhood.
And they were going to live out

719
00:37:53,160 --> 00:37:54,680
their lives.
And they're in their, you know,

720
00:37:54,680 --> 00:37:58,600
mid 60s, late 60s, seventies.
And he took it.

721
00:37:59,080 --> 00:38:02,440
Well, this is 20 million in the
80s as well.

722
00:38:02,440 --> 00:38:04,680
This is a little different.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's true.

723
00:38:05,360 --> 00:38:08,600
And I remember I had, I remember
when I did the Brock Romanoff

724
00:38:08,960 --> 00:38:11,560
thing just the other week.
No, no, I don't remember.

725
00:38:11,840 --> 00:38:16,120
I did a thing on corporate
disclosure.

726
00:38:16,120 --> 00:38:19,040
Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, I did a.
Corporate disclosure piece with

727
00:38:19,040 --> 00:38:23,240
on another podcast and him in
particular was so funny, he

728
00:38:23,240 --> 00:38:26,920
said.
I knew he was in trouble when he

729
00:38:26,920 --> 00:38:30,160
called me.
He called him at the SEC.

730
00:38:30,400 --> 00:38:33,400
He said his brokerage house
called us and he was in

731
00:38:33,400 --> 00:38:35,360
enforcement.
He was in corporate finance at

732
00:38:35,360 --> 00:38:37,640
the SEC and we're trying to sell
them stocks.

733
00:38:40,000 --> 00:38:42,520
That's, that's how far that it
had devolved.

734
00:38:43,000 --> 00:38:44,960
But I mean, before then was
first Jersey.

735
00:38:44,960 --> 00:38:48,440
There was, there was a bunch of
them that did this boiler room

736
00:38:48,440 --> 00:38:50,880
stuff where they try to push
stuff on people and they try to,

737
00:38:51,120 --> 00:38:54,480
and they, you know, they, they
say it's a penny stock and it's

738
00:38:54,480 --> 00:38:56,520
going to go to 10,000.
They get 100.

739
00:38:56,840 --> 00:38:59,520
They get thousands and thousands
of people to buy into the stock.

740
00:38:59,520 --> 00:39:00,880
They pump the price of the stock
up.

741
00:39:00,880 --> 00:39:03,240
Then they'd sell it into the
public market to their existing

742
00:39:03,240 --> 00:39:05,240
people.
And you know, and it's, it's

743
00:39:05,240 --> 00:39:08,680
just, it's fraud and a crime.
They need to go to jail.

744
00:39:09,000 --> 00:39:14,520
And I think when you screw old
people and you and you and you

745
00:39:14,520 --> 00:39:19,600
just, I mean, Madoff ripped off
a lot of rich people.

746
00:39:20,000 --> 00:39:21,280
And it's like Kevin Bacon.
Yeah.

747
00:39:21,760 --> 00:39:24,200
Yeah, well, he took every dime
they had.

748
00:39:25,680 --> 00:39:28,600
That was crazy.
They had every dollar when you,

749
00:39:28,600 --> 00:39:32,720
when you talk about bacon and
Hero Sedgwick, I think they all

750
00:39:32,720 --> 00:39:35,360
the money that they made, they
put into him because everybody

751
00:39:35,360 --> 00:39:36,880
said, you know, Madoff's the
one.

752
00:39:36,920 --> 00:39:39,720
And you know, you get a, you get
a steady 12% return, which is

753
00:39:39,720 --> 00:39:43,880
impossible, you know, in itself.
It's, you know, if you told me

754
00:39:43,880 --> 00:39:46,800
that, I guarantee, I don't
guarantee, but we always get 10

755
00:39:46,800 --> 00:39:50,760
or 12% every month, every year.
And you're like, that's not,

756
00:39:50,960 --> 00:39:53,600
that's not possible.
That's that's not real.

757
00:39:54,000 --> 00:39:58,880
But anyway, they lost
everything.

758
00:39:58,880 --> 00:40:02,560
But when you, when you heard him
speak about that, he, he was

759
00:40:02,560 --> 00:40:05,560
like we said, but he said, you
know, I lost everything.

760
00:40:05,560 --> 00:40:07,600
But it's not it, it, it hurts
us.

761
00:40:08,640 --> 00:40:11,600
But we have jobs so we can earn
back.

762
00:40:11,600 --> 00:40:15,200
I, I feel.
And he said he felt for those

763
00:40:15,200 --> 00:40:18,440
that couldn't because there was
like a doctor, there's a doctor,

764
00:40:18,440 --> 00:40:21,280
there was a surgeon.
And he had died.

765
00:40:22,000 --> 00:40:25,560
And his wife had millions that
she put with Madoff.

766
00:40:26,520 --> 00:40:30,920
And then he lost it all.
She was a nurse, she married a

767
00:40:30,920 --> 00:40:32,720
doctor.
She had no pension.

768
00:40:32,880 --> 00:40:35,240
She had Social Security.
She was listening to a nice

769
00:40:35,240 --> 00:40:37,520
apartment, had a nice car, the
Mercedes and all that kind of

770
00:40:37,520 --> 00:40:39,840
happy horseshit and the really
gated community, everything.

771
00:40:40,080 --> 00:40:43,920
She had to move out and go live
in, you know, whatever place.

772
00:40:44,200 --> 00:40:48,040
And then she got a job again as
a nurse at like 66 years.

773
00:40:48,040 --> 00:40:51,280
Old move back in with her kids
maybe?

774
00:40:51,360 --> 00:40:53,000
Yeah.
Yeah, I mean, you're just like,

775
00:40:53,080 --> 00:40:56,920
Oh my gosh, you just for the
rest of your life.

776
00:40:57,360 --> 00:41:01,400
Think about it.
If if, if, if you were swindled

777
00:41:02,480 --> 00:41:05,200
and then the first thing out of
out of everyone's mouth that

778
00:41:05,200 --> 00:41:07,200
comes to you is like, hey, Phil,
you're stupid.

779
00:41:07,840 --> 00:41:09,880
I mean.
That is the the whole

780
00:41:09,880 --> 00:41:12,720
connotation over that.
It's like you can't really tell

781
00:41:12,720 --> 00:41:15,240
that many people about it
because you're stupid.

782
00:41:15,280 --> 00:41:16,960
Yeah, no.
Why would you do that?

783
00:41:16,960 --> 00:41:18,040
Why?
Would you originally you?

784
00:41:18,880 --> 00:41:24,000
Know it's easy to look at these
frauds and say, well, I wouldn't

785
00:41:24,000 --> 00:41:29,000
do it, but so you're going to
judge the victim, which they've

786
00:41:29,000 --> 00:41:31,480
already lost everything and so
now they're just going to lose

787
00:41:31,480 --> 00:41:34,000
what little bit of, you know,
whatever.

788
00:41:34,000 --> 00:41:36,480
Even friends say that too.
It's an inherent bias that

789
00:41:36,480 --> 00:41:39,240
people have over those to get
swindled because they think that

790
00:41:39,240 --> 00:41:41,080
it could never happen to them
because they're too right.

791
00:41:41,280 --> 00:41:43,280
Going back to the whole
indoctrination thing, I mean

792
00:41:43,280 --> 00:41:47,240
this kind of goes loops back to
Scientology and to Tom Cruise as

793
00:41:47,240 --> 00:41:50,800
well and how he wing walk at 62
years old.

794
00:41:51,160 --> 00:41:53,520
Well, who else is out there that
when you were to think about

795
00:41:53,520 --> 00:41:57,360
competitive actors to Cruise, I
would think on a different line?

796
00:41:57,360 --> 00:41:59,800
Stunt basis or an actual actor
basis?

797
00:41:59,800 --> 00:42:02,640
That's a good question.
I mean, I kind of look at Pitt

798
00:42:02,920 --> 00:42:06,360
as being his.
I would say so, but Pitt is more

799
00:42:06,360 --> 00:42:08,800
George Clooney.
He's a George Clooney guy.

800
00:42:08,800 --> 00:42:11,880
Like that's.
But when I saw him and 12

801
00:42:11,880 --> 00:42:15,360
Monkeys, that's when I realized
he just set it off.

802
00:42:15,360 --> 00:42:16,880
I've never seen that movie.
I need to watch that.

803
00:42:16,880 --> 00:42:22,080
If you see that movie, it him as
the actor, you, you won't know

804
00:42:22,080 --> 00:42:25,360
that it's him or when you see
him in what's the one where he's

805
00:42:25,360 --> 00:42:27,320
the Irish boxer?
No, the gypsy boxer guy.

806
00:42:27,320 --> 00:42:32,960
Crash Crash.
Crash No Stash something AS.

807
00:42:32,960 --> 00:42:36,000
H yeah.
Yeah, slang wish.

808
00:42:36,480 --> 00:42:41,080
And no, it's, it's really funny.
He's got tattoos all over him.

809
00:42:44,080 --> 00:42:45,920
Yeah, he plays the the Pikey
guy.

810
00:42:46,640 --> 00:42:48,320
Yeah.
And he has like this developed

811
00:42:48,320 --> 00:42:50,480
accent that nobody understands
where it's from.

812
00:42:51,600 --> 00:42:53,680
Snatch.
Snatch close.

813
00:42:53,680 --> 00:42:56,280
Yeah, and, and he and he can
barely hear it.

814
00:42:56,280 --> 00:43:00,520
And you listen to him there and
you're just like, this guy has

815
00:43:00,520 --> 00:43:01,840
got it.
And it's kind of the same as

816
00:43:01,840 --> 00:43:03,400
DiCaprio.
When you see DiCaprio in the

817
00:43:03,400 --> 00:43:06,440
different positions, like when
he's playing Django and he's

818
00:43:06,440 --> 00:43:09,560
that guy smoking a cigarette
and, you know, calling the

819
00:43:09,560 --> 00:43:11,120
people and you're just like, Oh
my gosh.

820
00:43:11,120 --> 00:43:15,720
And then you see him in, I mean,
every movie he's a completely

821
00:43:15,720 --> 00:43:19,480
different guy.
And when you listen to who is

822
00:43:19,480 --> 00:43:22,840
it, Jamie Foxx talk about him,
he's like, you know, I'm sitting

823
00:43:22,840 --> 00:43:27,560
there and, and I'm trying to be
a cool slave and, and what's his

824
00:43:27,560 --> 00:43:29,600
name?
Who's the director?

825
00:43:29,680 --> 00:43:31,960
Tarantino.
It's Tarantino's telling me

826
00:43:32,000 --> 00:43:34,080
you're a slave.
You don't know anything.

827
00:43:34,080 --> 00:43:35,800
Quit trying to be cool.
No one was cool.

828
00:43:35,800 --> 00:43:38,040
You don't, you know.
So he teaches it.

829
00:43:38,040 --> 00:43:42,280
And he says, and he said,
Lenny's over there, smoke a

830
00:43:42,280 --> 00:43:46,080
cigarette, smoke a cigarette.
And then they go and they go,

831
00:43:46,880 --> 00:43:49,480
OK, we're getting ready to take.
He sets it down and he just

832
00:43:49,480 --> 00:43:53,080
becomes the person.
And then he is to the end of the

833
00:43:53,080 --> 00:43:54,840
scene.
He does it perfect.

834
00:43:55,680 --> 00:43:57,920
And then he stops, and then he's
himself again.

835
00:43:58,120 --> 00:44:02,720
And he said it's just like, you
know, And you start to see these

836
00:44:02,720 --> 00:44:04,320
people.
It's like, who's the one?

837
00:44:07,480 --> 00:44:12,040
Leonardo DiCaprio when he talks
about Gangs of New York, who's

838
00:44:12,040 --> 00:44:15,720
the guy?
Oh, Daniel Day Lewis.

839
00:44:16,200 --> 00:44:20,680
Yeah, and you're just like.
Daniel Day Lewis is the best

840
00:44:20,680 --> 00:44:23,840
actor, I think of the last 40
years.

841
00:44:23,840 --> 00:44:27,960
He's he's just in it so deep
that you can't.

842
00:44:28,800 --> 00:44:30,240
Yeah, there's nobody better than
him.

843
00:44:30,720 --> 00:44:34,400
Well, who is it?
Gary Oldman is a close.

844
00:44:34,560 --> 00:44:38,600
Oh gosh, he is crazy good.
Gary Oldman's a close second.

845
00:44:38,960 --> 00:44:41,880
Crazy good.
You know, you think of what was

846
00:44:41,880 --> 00:44:44,880
the one I was thinking of Dave
Chappelle was talking about he

847
00:44:44,880 --> 00:44:48,520
always wanted to meet Andy
Kaufman and he went to the set

848
00:44:48,800 --> 00:44:52,960
of Over the Moon.
Not Andy Kaufman he wanted.

849
00:44:53,040 --> 00:44:57,040
To be Jim.
Carrey and he goes there and but

850
00:44:57,040 --> 00:44:59,160
it's not Jim Carrey.
He's playing Andy Kaufman, and

851
00:44:59,160 --> 00:45:02,240
he becomes Andy Kaufman.
Yeah, he lost his life in that

852
00:45:02,240 --> 00:45:03,640
movie.
Yeah.

853
00:45:03,720 --> 00:45:07,960
Who for years Jim Carrey.
He he lost his life.

854
00:45:07,960 --> 00:45:09,720
Yeah.
There's this documentary he saw.

855
00:45:09,720 --> 00:45:11,760
It's called Jim and Andy the
Wonderful Adventure or

856
00:45:11,760 --> 00:45:15,360
something, and how Jim Carrey
was Andy Kaufman for like 5

857
00:45:15,360 --> 00:45:17,520
years after that and still is,
Oh my gosh.

858
00:45:17,520 --> 00:45:20,360
And still is to some degree.
Wow.

859
00:45:20,360 --> 00:45:22,960
Yeah, well, they said that about
Heath Ledger and.

860
00:45:23,240 --> 00:45:26,240
Method acting, yeah.
When you saw that, I mean, I

861
00:45:26,240 --> 00:45:30,960
just his acting, being the Joker
was just over the top crazy.

862
00:45:30,960 --> 00:45:34,960
I just like it it.
It's magnetic and you just, when

863
00:45:34,960 --> 00:45:42,200
you look at him close and every
well, I think and the way he

864
00:45:42,200 --> 00:45:50,040
talks and the way he's always.
He's always eating.

865
00:45:50,160 --> 00:45:52,480
He's always eating gum.
No, he's just licking his lips

866
00:45:52,480 --> 00:45:55,400
and stuff because his face has
been burned, right?

867
00:45:55,840 --> 00:45:58,240
Acid burned or whatever it was.
That's what happened to Joe.

868
00:45:58,240 --> 00:46:00,600
That's why he had the big smile.
Well, they cut his.

869
00:46:00,800 --> 00:46:03,280
His dad cut his mouth open or
something, I think.

870
00:46:03,280 --> 00:46:05,480
Yeah, Well.
There's all sorts of different

871
00:46:05,480 --> 00:46:08,120
stories in Batman.
I'm sure someone will correct

872
00:46:08,120 --> 00:46:16,360
me, but that and and just his
crazy like over the top and and

873
00:46:16,360 --> 00:46:19,400
I think that that when we talk
about great actors, it's like,

874
00:46:20,280 --> 00:46:24,360
is it believable, you know?
Telling truth on the screen.

875
00:46:25,120 --> 00:46:27,440
That's the thing, when you can,
when you can go and you can sit

876
00:46:27,440 --> 00:46:32,360
in a theatre and you can look at
it and you can feel that that

877
00:46:32,360 --> 00:46:36,920
could really happen.
You know, I mean, most of the

878
00:46:36,920 --> 00:46:39,640
war movies I see where they go
around and you know, they break

879
00:46:39,640 --> 00:46:43,280
into places and shoot 60 people
and trains get robbed and all

880
00:46:43,280 --> 00:46:45,000
the stuff like this.
Well, you know what?

881
00:46:45,120 --> 00:46:47,640
None of that shit ever happens.
Never.

882
00:46:47,720 --> 00:46:50,680
It doesn't happen at all.
I mean, look, if if people did

883
00:46:50,680 --> 00:46:54,480
this and there was all these gun
fights and all these, all these

884
00:46:54,480 --> 00:46:56,480
action movies, you'd see it in
the news.

885
00:46:56,680 --> 00:46:58,520
You don't see any of that news
because it doesn't happen.

886
00:46:59,040 --> 00:47:00,440
You think about the craziest
things.

887
00:47:00,440 --> 00:47:04,040
That's probably the craziest
thing that's ever happened that

888
00:47:04,040 --> 00:47:12,960
I can think of is in Delhi, the
Something Hotel.

889
00:47:12,960 --> 00:47:16,280
I think it's the Tosh Palace.
The reason I say that is because

890
00:47:16,280 --> 00:47:19,480
your mother and I stayed there
and we were there.

891
00:47:19,960 --> 00:47:25,000
They had a group of men that
came that hit the ground and

892
00:47:25,000 --> 00:47:28,080
there were, I don't know, like
12 of them or something like

893
00:47:28,080 --> 00:47:29,800
that.
And they hit the tell that they

894
00:47:29,800 --> 00:47:34,760
hit the hotel and they had
automatic weapons and grenades

895
00:47:35,520 --> 00:47:38,360
and they killed, I don't know,
80 people.

896
00:47:38,360 --> 00:47:40,800
They just went through the hotel
and mowed people down and just

897
00:47:40,800 --> 00:47:42,080
and it was up.
Why was this?

898
00:47:42,720 --> 00:47:48,680
20 story they were it was it,
they were Muslim and there was

899
00:47:48,680 --> 00:47:53,520
something about I don't remember
thing and I don't remember the

900
00:47:53,520 --> 00:47:57,000
whole purpose of it, but it was
like worldwide because they went

901
00:47:57,000 --> 00:48:01,240
to a really richy rich hotel and
they just went room to room and

902
00:48:01,480 --> 00:48:03,240
killed everybody.
Well, that makes you think that

903
00:48:03,240 --> 00:48:06,320
nobody's safe.
Like, that's exactly, exactly.

904
00:48:06,320 --> 00:48:08,040
I mean, I'd love to see that
happen to a room full of

905
00:48:08,040 --> 00:48:09,680
billionaires, but that's not
going to happen.

906
00:48:09,800 --> 00:48:13,200
Yeah, they're now all, you know,
there's no, there's No Fear.

907
00:48:13,200 --> 00:48:14,720
And I would like to see some
fear put.

908
00:48:14,720 --> 00:48:16,840
Back in.
It's going to happen eventually,

909
00:48:16,840 --> 00:48:18,200
I just don't know.
I think so.

910
00:48:18,480 --> 00:48:23,240
I think Luigi is a an example.
Good point.

911
00:48:23,480 --> 00:48:24,960
Good point.
I would like to see.

912
00:48:24,960 --> 00:48:29,160
I would like to see and and it
doesn't have to be that it it

913
00:48:29,160 --> 00:48:32,640
could be other things that I
would say put them in their

914
00:48:32,640 --> 00:48:35,760
place because of the control
that they exert across too many

915
00:48:35,760 --> 00:48:37,920
things.
And and just I don't understand

916
00:48:37,920 --> 00:48:44,440
the reasoning behind needing to
take the last breath of a child

917
00:48:44,520 --> 00:48:48,080
to fat in your wallet that that
doesn't.

918
00:48:48,520 --> 00:48:50,440
That doesn't sit well.
Doesn't sit well with you.

919
00:48:50,680 --> 00:48:52,560
Doesn't sit well with me, you
know, I always think.

920
00:48:52,560 --> 00:48:55,440
Of that sit well with me there.
I remember the Pulitzer Prize

921
00:48:55,440 --> 00:48:59,720
where they show the little kid,
the African, Nigerian or Sudan,

922
00:49:00,080 --> 00:49:03,600
Sudanese, I think it is, and
he's there and he's crouched

923
00:49:03,600 --> 00:49:08,200
down and his head's down between
his legs and there's a vulture

924
00:49:08,800 --> 00:49:10,680
like 8 feet away from him
waiting.

925
00:49:12,520 --> 00:49:15,800
No, I don't remember that.
Nat Geo photographer shot that

926
00:49:16,320 --> 00:49:18,920
photos he took.
It was a starvation because and

927
00:49:18,920 --> 00:49:22,440
this is what's going to happen
because our friend Musk cut off

928
00:49:22,480 --> 00:49:26,240
aid to the Sudan and seeds and
stuff.

929
00:49:26,240 --> 00:49:27,400
So a lot of kids are going to
die.

930
00:49:28,080 --> 00:49:33,680
Thousands will die.
And but this was done much

931
00:49:33,680 --> 00:49:36,320
before that.
You know, this is in I think it

932
00:49:36,320 --> 00:49:38,640
was in the 70s.
It might have been or maybe the

933
00:49:38,640 --> 00:49:42,880
80s, but that photographer that
shot that and shot a lot of the

934
00:49:42,880 --> 00:49:47,760
different sites and the sites
are just they're, they're kind

935
00:49:47,760 --> 00:49:52,400
of like concentration camp
photos.

936
00:49:52,400 --> 00:49:55,640
When you look at the people,
that's how bad it is that

937
00:49:55,640 --> 00:50:00,720
they're starving to death.
And he killed himself.

938
00:50:02,320 --> 00:50:04,600
Couldn't live with it.
You want a Pulitzer?

939
00:50:04,640 --> 00:50:06,760
Pulitzer.
What do you call it?

940
00:50:06,840 --> 00:50:08,960
A puppet.
Is Pulitzer for literature or is

941
00:50:08,960 --> 00:50:11,240
it for photos?
It's they've got one for photos,

942
00:50:11,240 --> 00:50:13,640
they've got one for literature,
they've got one for jumping

943
00:50:13,640 --> 00:50:15,120
jacks, they've got one for
peace.

944
00:50:15,120 --> 00:50:18,120
They got one for.
How close is your name to Phil

945
00:50:18,120 --> 00:50:19,440
Brown?
I mean, that's the one I.

946
00:50:19,440 --> 00:50:21,800
Want I want.
Yeah, I I think I'd win that

947
00:50:21,800 --> 00:50:22,640
one.
I'm pretty close.

948
00:50:23,200 --> 00:50:25,480
Yeah, you're pretty close.
I'm pretty not exactly there.

949
00:50:25,480 --> 00:50:27,600
You kind of kind of get there,
but you're almost there.

950
00:50:28,080 --> 00:50:30,760
So when you think of other
actors that you would stack up

951
00:50:30,800 --> 00:50:34,400
if if in a movie.
I used to think Bruce Willis but

952
00:50:34,400 --> 00:50:37,440
in the last like five years when
he got dementia and started to

953
00:50:37,440 --> 00:50:40,320
go off the end.
Well, his manager and then his

954
00:50:40,320 --> 00:50:43,000
daughter were taking advantage
of him and putting him in these

955
00:50:43,000 --> 00:50:45,440
like D list movies that like
were.

956
00:50:45,440 --> 00:50:48,600
So sad.
With like retired wrestlers or

957
00:50:48,600 --> 00:50:52,480
something like it was weird.
I was like, what is this guy?

958
00:50:52,480 --> 00:50:54,040
It's like what is?
Well.

959
00:50:54,280 --> 00:50:57,040
They were trying to maximize the
revenue to take care of him

960
00:50:57,040 --> 00:50:58,680
which.
I don't know.

961
00:50:58,920 --> 00:51:00,080
I don't, I don't know.
I don't know.

962
00:51:00,120 --> 00:51:02,000
I mean, I would have thought
somebody that earned hundreds of

963
00:51:02,000 --> 00:51:04,400
millions of dollars over the
course of his life would have

964
00:51:04,400 --> 00:51:05,920
been able to have enough money
to take.

965
00:51:05,920 --> 00:51:09,000
Care of Well, they're trying to
make their own lifestyles work

966
00:51:09,320 --> 00:51:11,280
and that's.
That's, that's, that's what it

967
00:51:11,280 --> 00:51:14,680
appears to be from the outside
looking in that it's all and

968
00:51:14,680 --> 00:51:17,560
every so often they post on
Instagram and oh, that's so, so

969
00:51:17,840 --> 00:51:20,160
cool.
And it's like, you know, I can't

970
00:51:20,160 --> 00:51:26,840
imagine posting pictures of my
mother in states of dementia on

971
00:51:26,960 --> 00:51:31,520
to show all my Facebook friends,
Hey, look at my mom here.

972
00:51:31,520 --> 00:51:34,440
She can't say my name anymore.
How cool is that?

973
00:51:34,800 --> 00:51:37,080
She doesn't need know me or know
how to speak.

974
00:51:37,240 --> 00:51:39,680
But here she's confined to a
wheelchair.

975
00:51:40,000 --> 00:51:42,800
Here she is in her little room
and she doesn't know how to get

976
00:51:42,800 --> 00:51:45,160
out of her bed.
I think it's weird that when

977
00:51:45,160 --> 00:51:49,760
people die, like there's like
people that post these photos of

978
00:51:49,760 --> 00:51:51,840
them holding like their
grandma's hand or something.

979
00:51:51,840 --> 00:51:54,800
It's like goodbye, grandma.
And it's like, did I really did

980
00:51:54,800 --> 00:51:57,880
I need to see this today?
Did you need to show me that?

981
00:51:58,000 --> 00:52:00,560
Like, I don't, I don't know.
There's nothing private anymore.

982
00:52:00,560 --> 00:52:03,160
There's nothing.
There's nothing that's private

983
00:52:03,160 --> 00:52:04,920
anymore.
It's weird.

984
00:52:04,920 --> 00:52:11,320
Well.
I think that the whole idea that

985
00:52:11,320 --> 00:52:15,280
you would need to take a picture
of you holding your

986
00:52:15,280 --> 00:52:19,240
grandmother's hand so you would
remember.

987
00:52:20,200 --> 00:52:22,080
I mean, I, I have moments like
that.

988
00:52:22,120 --> 00:52:27,280
I, my brother died, my mother
died, my dad died, you know, and

989
00:52:27,360 --> 00:52:31,400
I've got those moments, but I
don't need a picture because I

990
00:52:31,400 --> 00:52:34,120
have a picture.
I have a like a, a vivid memory

991
00:52:34,720 --> 00:52:39,120
and, and any one of those vivid
memories that I don't have, I

992
00:52:39,120 --> 00:52:42,480
don't, I don't need to see, I
don't need to have a, a record

993
00:52:42,480 --> 00:52:45,840
of it so I can show it to you
and make you feel like shit.

994
00:52:46,120 --> 00:52:48,080
But we have an audio record.
Think about that.

995
00:52:48,760 --> 00:52:51,080
What's that but this?
Isn't like of you dying though?

996
00:52:51,080 --> 00:52:53,280
I guess it is kind of.
Yeah, I'm dying, man.

997
00:52:53,440 --> 00:52:55,480
Well, it is kind of it's of me
dying as well, though.

998
00:52:55,480 --> 00:52:57,800
I mean, like we're, we're dying
right now, but.

999
00:52:58,000 --> 00:53:00,720
Hopefully I'm gonna, I'm gonna,
I'm gonna get to that line

1000
00:53:00,720 --> 00:53:02,720
before you do.
I think so.

1001
00:53:02,960 --> 00:53:04,960
That's the plan.
I think so.

1002
00:53:05,360 --> 00:53:06,680
You got a plan for me?
Is that what you're?

1003
00:53:06,680 --> 00:53:08,960
Talking about yeah, I got this,
really, I got this kind of

1004
00:53:08,960 --> 00:53:13,440
Roadrunner esque trap set up or
what is the Wildlake Coyote?

1005
00:53:14,120 --> 00:53:16,320
Well, you know, I'm pretty
stupid and I will kind of run

1006
00:53:16,320 --> 00:53:18,480
right into the wall.
It's a hot dog.

1007
00:53:18,480 --> 00:53:19,640
Hot dog in the desert?
No.

1008
00:53:20,120 --> 00:53:23,000
Oh my God, it's a hot dog.
Oh, man, that I would do

1009
00:53:23,000 --> 00:53:23,840
anything.
I would.

1010
00:53:23,840 --> 00:53:26,680
I mean, I I'd I'd show you a
bear trap.

1011
00:53:27,160 --> 00:53:29,160
Jelly Dog with sauerkraut.
Oh, my guess.

1012
00:53:29,440 --> 00:53:31,760
Well, I think we're we're out in
time about, yeah.

1013
00:53:31,880 --> 00:53:33,280
You just don't want to talk to
me anymore.

1014
00:53:33,360 --> 00:53:35,320
Well, I gotta, I gotta get ready
to go to this thing here.

1015
00:53:36,040 --> 00:53:38,720
We don't know man.
You're 66 on North Iceland.

1016
00:53:40,240 --> 00:53:41,720
Gosh, well, thank you guys for
listening.

1017
00:53:41,720 --> 00:53:43,640
Has always a record of
myfather.com.

1018
00:53:44,120 --> 00:53:47,520
Check us out on all platforms
and we will talk to you next

1019
00:53:47,520 --> 00:53:53,480
week in episode 102.
Oh my God, episode 100 we'll get

1020
00:53:53,480 --> 00:53:55,640
famous about 200 more episodes
from what I've heard.

1021
00:53:56,040 --> 00:53:59,480
So we'll see you at episode 202
in about I guess 2 years from

1022
00:53:59,480 --> 00:54:00,840
now or something like that.
See you then.