Episode 100: Sandwiches

0:09 Welcome back to record my father today where sandwiches I ate a sandwich today. It was a chicken cheese steak from Jersey Mike's. I believe Jersey Mike's probably the best sandwich spot in America. Best chain restaurant spot not to not to hurt the viewers out there. Best chain restaurant spot hands down. Some people say Subway. I don't agree. I'm not going to agree. You don't have Big Mike support behind that. You don't have Big Mike support behind that. What do you think? What do you think about sandwiches? I I just can't get over the fact that Tom Cruise is 62 years old. You know what? Tom Cruise, Dead Reckoning coming out. That movie's good. It came out on Friday dude.

0:51 Oh, it already came out. Yeah, yeah. Amazing, huh? It's like super Uber huge box office hit, you know, so well. He's amazing. I don't really care that he's a Scientologist because that's his choice. That's his choice to give over hundreds of thousands of dollars. There was a guy named Aaron Cairo in San Francisco that gave $840,000 from his own business to the Scientology committee or whatever of San Francisco. Now he's head of it, he's ahead of it now, but he robbed all of his employees. They all worked for free thinking that they were going to get paid. And no, they they never got paid. And then now he's pretty much tanked his whole reputation. Yep.

1:32 So I just had a hot dog sandwich and I I guess that's a question. Well, what do you do on a hot dogs? Do you put the relish on or do you? Yeah. Well, I mean, hot dogs, you can do a lot of different things, if that's the thing. And I'm sort of a hot dog aficionado and I'm a sandwich aficionado too, because I eat them and I eat a lot of them and you can tell by looking at my belly and, and I think that I mean, hot dogs for me, it's weird. I love the perfect hot dog bun, a potato bun. With seeds on the side. Sesame seeds. Well, right now I'm eating on a hamburger bun, like one of those big, I think they're called Big Mike's Hamburger Buns.

2:12 I got seeds. I cook it on the grill, split it in half, put make the two sides flat, grill them and then put them side by side. Put a chunk of like a little disk of onion on top. Throw a little plop of sweet relish in the middle. Write my name in mustard. Put a little a little pooper of ketchup in the middle. That's sacrilegious. I don't like that that's a hot dog that's appearing in basically lying to the general public that it's a hamburger. And I don't think that that's right. I don't. Think, Oh my gosh, it was. Well, you don't like that I don't like that I. Don't you know what's better?

2:55 The reason? It's better to eat it that way. I think it's because when I eat a hot dog on a hot dog bun, like we you just sent that thing on Instagram from doggy style that when I eat it on a bun, I usually get crap all over me no matter what. And that's fair. You know, it's it's but if I eat it on a sandwich, I don't this stuff doesn't drip out all over me and and I am like condiment man. So I am always putting stuff and I'm like, for me, dogs are you can do chili, mustard, onions. You can do onions, mustard, sauerkraut and relish.

3:36 Mayonnaise too. You love mayonnaise a lot. Don't, don't make me vomit. People should be put to death that put mayonnaise on hot dogs. That's just absolutely. That. Should be a federal offense. Sorry, that shit. That's it. Stab you. They they should be stabbed in the eye with a dull fork. OK. That's why no mayonnaise on the hunt. Why are you against mayonnaise on the hunt? It's weird, it's weird. Why is it weird you put mayonnaise on? It's kind of like asking for mayonnaise on an Italian sub. It's just stupid. I get mayonnaise on an Italian sub all the time. I don't know who you are. You used to be my son. You aren't anymore. I remember we. Used to have this guy come over to. That you've been delisted and he listed from the registrar. Mayonnaise dogs and the mayonnaise dogs are great.

4:17 What about hot dogs and egg? Hot dogs and eggs going back a couple episodes. I think that was about 5 episodes. Oh, by the way, happy episode 100. This is episode 100. It is. Yeah. Oh my God, 100 sandwiches. We should talk about 100. Sandwiches, episodes, we have over 2000 downloads. It feels great. We love our viewers and we love everything about them. It's just been going great and we keep on going, but. Thinking about sandwiches, If you could only have one sandwich the rest of your life, what would it? Be I got to tell you, it wouldn't be whatever the Italian beef sandwich is. That's disgusting where they get the Italian beef and then they dip it in the sauce and then they wrap it in tinfoil. I I I don't agree with. That I didn't get, that I don't agree with, that it doesn't have enough.

4:58 I love my sandwiches pre wet like yeah please make me a wet sandwich like what is that about? I wanted to have pizzazz and I've had so many different sandwiches that have Zazz. When I used to work at Manny Moon's Pizza, right, we used to make the sandwich called the launcher and it was ham salami, I think. I don't know if it's sliced pepperoni or sliced like a different type of salami and provolone cheese. And then you put sub oil dumped and the sub oil was basically oregano, garlic, salt, onion, salt, and probably salt and pepper. Olive oil or something though.

5:40 It's in oil. In oil. In olive oil. And you poured it in the middle, then you dump, then you threw it into the oven at 600° for about 3 minutes. It came out, the cheese was melted. It was sizzling in the middle and you had to burn it. You had to bite it. So it burned your mouth. And Oh my gosh, it was just sort of like, have you ever had a Monte Cristo when it's fresh out of the oven or it's kind of has that? But the last time I ate a Monte Crista sandwich was at a Snowmass ski resort in 2010. That was the last time I ate a Monte Crista sandwich. No lie. Because that we want to know why I know that it's because that was the only time I ever ate a Monte Crista sandwich in my life was then we the we're talking about when the French toast is the bread on the outside and it's like a breakfast sandwich.

6:28 Yeah. No, that was that was the last time I did in 2010 or 2011 at Snowmass Ski Resort. I think, I mean, if I took, I think one of my favorite sandwich, sandwich meat has to be like the Italian sub where you have different Italian meats. We have a place here that you've been to with me is Lateri's. #13 New Jersey Mike's. Those are those are really probably better than the Italian store, which is another place that's local here. But I think Lateri's is probably one of the best set to Italian Subs that I've ever ever had. Many moons used to buy their bread from that who who used to buy the bread from Manny's, the restaurant we used to work. No way really. Yep, that's all that's. Why the the your brother was friends with them? Yeah, they would do the bread. They would do the bread run at like 3:30 in the morning and I'd drive up into, you know, Florida Ave. and in Southeast DC and, and pick up the bread and bring it back. And that was the big thing.

7:18 You know, I never did the bread run. But if you were, you know, yeah, they did. You regret that? It'd be, it'd be another story, another memory, because he would always do really funny stuff and he'd go there and he'd say, you know, you see people sleeping in shopping carts and, and it was ADC in the late 60s SE was gangster. Yeah, that's all redone now, the Noma area as they call. It yeah, all that is all. That's all done. I remember a scratch. Remember there back in 2017? White. Bred rich people, you know. Yeah. Well, that's the warehouse district as they call it. But you know what I hate is the French dip. I think it's a dumb sandwich. It's a waste.

8:00 I think it's AI think it's a dumb sandwich. I don't know, that's just. It's a boring, It's a boring person's sandwich. Well, it's basically, if you think about it, it's same concept as the Italian beef, but it's French. Right. Yeah, it's it's, it's, it's just the difference is, is Italian beef is just cook roast beef and French dip, half cooked roast beef dipped in its own sauce. So it's like, well, why did you just not let it run off? Well, then we kind of get into the concept of prime rib. And I always thought that prime rib was stupid. For as long as I've lived, I thought it was dumb. And you know what? Recently, recently, in about 5 months ago, four months ago, me and Pam went to go eat prime rib at Smokehouse.

8:44 And I got to tell you, I was surprised. I was surprised at how good that was. Now you ate just the prime rib. The big slap on the. But it's a sandwich. But it's an open faced sandwich and it has like sauerkraut or something or a horse rat. That's what it. Comes with horseradish. Yeah, it comes with a horseradish. What are you wacko? And then it comes with the the sauce or whatever. I don't know what sauce is, but it comes. With the sauce, probably like a Nene sauce, I don't know. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's. Like a relishi type thing and you know. But it was really good. The The primary was soft, the bread that it was on was crunchy and. Soft. We missed some of steak and cheese. When we talk about sandwiches, that's well. That's what I ate today was chicken, steak and cheese from Jersey Mike's number 16. I gotta say, it was good, but I messed up. You want to know how I messed up? We used to have a chicken veggie. But go ahead, when you order a hot sandwich from Jersey Mike's, right, you got to say what?

9:36 You want? Are you getting paid by them this time? I mean, I just got a corporate sponsorship, yeah. Just try not to not flex it too. Much Subway club man. They gave me a $10.00 gift certificate for the the year, so I've been really we should. Submit this to them afterward and talk about the sandwiches that we eat. And I, I, I mean, for me, there's certain ones, things that come through. No, I'll let you finish it with your Jersey Mike's. You were talking. About that. Oh yeah. Where are we at? Oh, OK, so when you order a hot sandwich, so you know how you ask when you're ordering a cold sandwich there you immediately do the condiments after you. Say Mike's way. With Pickles and then mayonnaise if you want it, and then bacon or avocado if they have it. And so with a hot sandwich, you need to order it all at once. You need to say whatever.

10:18 I want the number 16 large well on Rosemary Parm, but then you need to say Mike's way, add mayonnaise or whatever. I fucked up and I I didn't say what I wanted. I didn't get the condiments because I thought you did that after the they came off the grill. I didn't. Know that sandwich condiments is like a woman with clothes. Well, it was chicken cheese. What's? The point? And then onions and it wasn't great. Like I mean, it wasn't, it was great. It was OK. It was that was bad, wasn't it? Was that? OK, I, I tended to ignore it, but I agree with that. But I, I frankly was quite disappointed. I was quite disappointed indeed, yeah. I was thinking about some of my favorite times eating things. I remember that when when I started the first business GSI, we would go down and around the corner and we go to the the hot dog stand and they had something we called Dirty Water Dogs 'cause we'd eat.

11:14 We did a video. On this for the Instagram page I remember this. I get to work at 6:30 and go there and get a dirty water dog and they've been sitting in the water since the day before they're leftover. If you get there early enough in the morning in the water and they're a little green and you get it was for 250 you get 2 hot dogs, chili dogs with kraut. Not everything. I would just how much more, put some more on there. No, that. Yeah, I want onions, Pickles, relish, mustard. I mean, there was more stuff on the little tiny, you know, skinny dog than there was the dog itself. And then all fitted on the bun and then a Coke and chips. Well, you know, you talk about you talk about that, but then I think about what was it, you know, fat burger out here, there's a chain restaurant burger place. You got to pay for fucking cheese on that, that you got to pay 250 for a cheese.

12:09 And then also if you want an onion, tomato and lettuce, that's all a separate charge for each condiment. Oh my gosh. Crazy you end up getting. Ringed up, that's how they eat 5. Dollars for a burger? It's kind of like. In relish. They put relish on a burger and it tastes foul. It's. Yeah, when you you got to do Pickles, you got to do sweet Pickles or, or, or hamburger dill. I wanted to know. I like Clawson and I like Mount Olive. Mount Olive Pickles are really good. I don't like the one with the stork on it with the bird on it. Who is that? You know, you know what I'm talking about the bird. One. Yeah, I do. I know. Those taste awful. They're they're too. They're. It's not that they're too wet, it's that they're. There's no crunch to it. They're too processed.

12:50 Like you're eating a piece of rubber. Yeah, a rubber. And I and The thing is, is like when I see homemade Pickles and people talk about how great they are, sometimes they're exceptional and sometimes they're crap. And that's like, it's really just to throw the dice thing and. Then I eat Grillos. Grillos Pickle. Oh, those were good. That's right. And the and the little and the little. Pickle man on it, as the pickle man on it, he's all happy. Yeah, Yep. You see that? I'm really happy with those. It it reminded me of what's there was a hot dog place out of Chicago. It's really good. Oh, Portillo's. Yes, yes. I met the CFO at a show and one of the shows I was doing in Chicago, it's just like 8 years ago, nine years ago and they were just looking to go in public at that time might have been a little longer.

13:41 They were just we were like 46 different restaurants and everybody really likes it. And I bought the dogs online that I mean I bought them through the mail and it just. Oh, I do recall this. That wasn't the pandemic, I thought. Yeah, yeah, I was buying a bunch of weird shit through the mail then, you know, from Gold Coast or whatever, you know. To guns to. Ridiculous, ridiculous food through the mail. You know, like running. Animals. Yeah. Speaking of exotic animals in the mail, I remember the time, one of the last times I ever ate at Fuddruckers, when they were rolling out their International Burger Burger campaign and you ate an ostrich burger back in 2009. Do you remember that?

14:22 Isn't that incredible? A great memory I have, but yeah, I remember that. But then I thought about how expensive imported ostrich meat is. And if you're trying to save your restaurant, you do what Burgers of the world with imported meat, which is 4 times that's. Crazy but not always. One of the one of the Burger King had a lawsuit settled. I forget who's the FHAFDAFDA came after him because they they're burgers. For quite some time they were importing kangaroo meat. And that's cheaper, really.

15:05 Yeah, a lot cheaper, 'cause it's like they just go out and slaughter them on the road and throw them in a bucket and send them to you. Well, it's 'cause they're. Rats of Australia, they're big kick. In right pretty much but they weigh a lot so and they have a lot of meat and you know and most people with enough seasoning will eat you know Yoshi's poop so. I thought it would be, It'd be stringy though, 'cause they're they're, have you ever seen one of them flex? They got they're one big muscle. Oh yeah, you do not. I can't imagine a kangaroo would feel good. Yeah. You ever seen, like you ever see the kangaroo memes where the guy goes out there and it's got a hold of his dog and he knows he's going to kill his dog, so he runs over there and he just wails on it and he just starts punching it in the face. It's just the funniest thing in the world cause the thing's sitting there and it's got the dog and a grip and you know it's going to hurt the dog and it'll probably kill the dog. And then this guy comes over and punches him in the head two or three times and it and he just lets go of the dog. The dog runs off and he had a kangaroo looks at him like what, what, what are you doing?

16:04 It was just, it was so comical. They're evil. I've heard they're sent from hell to take over the world. But I mean honestly, if you. Think about. Australia was built on 'cause it was like a prison country, right? It was built for prisons. And do we think, I don't know, I think we haven't covered a conspiracy here that the prisoners were really just the Kangaroos. I don't know. Do you think they sent the prisoners over there with Kangaroos with them? Maybe, I don't know. Little baby Kangaroos to get rid of the Kangaroos or. I remember the video a couple years ago. Investigate Infesticate Australia. 'S investigate record, my father podcast investigate. I want that definition like a Merriam Webster T-shirt, but like Infesticate, and that was like a deaf Merriwebster, Merriwebster, Merriwebster, Merriwebster.

16:48 Weird. Stories about Mary. You made a lot of shit up about Mary. I've been thinking, I'm like, why don't I have a headache for three hours after I record these? We have fun here. It's episode and this is and this is absolutely without any drugs, unfortunately. I mean, what the hell? This. Is me sober Oh my God. You know, what's funny is I think that I'm. I'm almost less fun when I'm messed up because my head doesn't think it's fast, you know, is that. Yeah, yeah, no, I'm just more nulled. I'm not as fun, but once you. Finally forget when I, when I remember we would go on diets at work periodically and I would go and get subway clubs and just order, order, order, order, order, order subway clubs every day, 6 inch subway club and I get a foot long and, and, and, and iced tea. And that was my that was my lunch and halftime dinner. Yeah, that was my diet.

17:43 That was, I was trying to be. Who's the pedophile? Well, that guy, you know, it's funny, the whole reason he lost weight at Subway was because there was a 16 year old that lived or worked at the Subway that was in his building and he'd go down there and he'd harass her, order sandwiches every day. She then moved Subway locations 2 miles away so he had to walk to the subway every day to harass her and then walk back. That's 4 miles a day. He lost the weight walking between. He should be getting out now. He got like a dozen years. I think he got like like 100 or something though. No, no, no, he he went 12 years. No, he didn't. No. He didn't negotiate a thing. Jared from Jared Kushner. Jared Fogle.

18:25 Sentenced to 15 years in prison, so it's only 15 years. It's not Fogle. But that was 2015. It is. It is Fogle. No, it's Jared Kushner. No, it's not. That's the that's the guy that's with the Trump campaign. Jared. 15 1/2 years? Yeah, he should. Well, that's 20-30. He'll be eligible for parole, so he's got another 5. Years. How many years he got? 15 and 2015. Oh. Yeah, which is kind of shocking, isn't? He just. Yeah, he, he looks evil, but I watched the documentary and the woman that caught him and it took her like 7 years. It's crazy really. It took her like 7 years to do it. Yeah, I mean, now was he I I don't want to talk about pet files.

19:12 No, no, we don't need to talk about it. We just didn't know that he walked to Subway a lot. But going back to sandwiches here. He was not the reason I I like the subway club. OK, no, no, I did not. And that's like the probably the only sandwich I eat out of. There. Well, I remember when Subway used to have pizza. I remember that. God that was nasty shit. I loved it because I was a child and I didn't have any palate. But also you like. Pizza from school? OK, No, I didn't. I never liked it. Well, that pizza was also a derivative of a quesadilla. It was kind of strange. It was like a quesadilla in a pizza. 1 And it tastes like what I imagine garbage tastes like. But at the same time, the the Jersey Mike's Kahuna sub.

19:54 I think it. Yeah, it's like a Hawaiian chicken breast sub. It's pretty good. It's not bad. I like it. But make sure you order your condiments. It's good. It's not bad. It's it's not bad, it's good. It's not bad good, I don't know. Or it's good, not bad. Yeah, I don't know. I remember there was something called a chicken veggie that was done from Manhattan Deli and on 6th and E in DC right on the corner. They are coming on to Pennsylvania Ave. right at the circle of Archives. And they used to set that sub and their steak and cheese were just phenomenal, you know? But I mean, think about what what you have. You ever have bad Subs?

20:38 Bad Subs. I mean, I'm trying to think. Not really. I can't think of any of the top. Oh, I had a terrible one the other day. Yeah, there's this Lebanese place, well, where I used to live in Lewisville is and it says #1 sandwich in LA. So the Reuben basically is 2 pieces of Wonder Bread, not toasted with about four gallons. What is it called? 1000 island dressing. And then cold, cold pastrami on it. Not, no, not even corned beef. And then a piece of cheese not melted. And then they sandwich that together. And then they give it to you. And then you go home and you open it. And then you imagine tying A noose and hanging yourself when you hold the sandwich because it just falls right apart and it's disgusting.

21:23 It's probably the most disgusting sandwich I've ever eaten of my own recollection. Currently, yeah. OK, I was going to around the corner Indiana Ave. there's a, and this is, most of these are like when I was working at GSI or started, whatever that is. But we would always go to lunch early, like 11/11/30. You wouldn't have any lines. And I mean, the lines in downtown DC were, you know, 30 people deep. I would go there and I, he had great Cuban Subs, great because they were Cuban and he had great, what do you call them Italian Subs? I love a kitten sandwich and they And so I come there and he's like out front, he's leaning against the wall smoking a cigarette. So he goes inside and I said hi, hey, how you doing? Talk to him and he goes in, makes the sub, he goes behind the counter.

22:16 He throws the cigarette away, then goes goes in, goes behind the counter. He makes the sub, wraps it all up. I pay for the sub. I go back to my I go back, I sit down, I open the sub up and I like raise it like this and I can it smells like a cigarette. I knew you were going to say that I was. Just like, and you know, like I hadn't eaten since the day before. I would come in, I would come in at like 630 and I would drink a lot of coffee so that I would, it would just clean out everything I'd eaten the day before. And so by 11/11/30, I get ferociously hungry and a little testy and but I remember and I was just like sitting there and I wanted the sub so bad and I wanted the toast, but all I could do was just smell and and not just you know, how you ever you ever smelled somebody come from outside that smoked a cigarette?

23:14 Oh yeah, yeah, I smelled myself, Yeah. That's what it smelled like. That's valid. And it was used. Cigarette smoke. It wasn't even like fresh cigarette smoke. It was used. Do you? Know what kind of cigarette it was? I think it was a cool. That's even worse. It was. It was the. And it. And it just stuck in my craw and I had to go somewhere else and eat something. I think I just went to the hot dog stand and grabbed 2 'cause that was always what I think. 2 half snakes, two half. When I got when I got older, I was fatter and I had a little more money so I could afford two half smokes and two half smokes. Chips and a Coke were $3. Two hot dogs, chips and a Coke were $2.00. Now think about that $2.00.

23:56 That's crazy. So we didn't have any money. You know, we were just starting a business. So food mattered, you know, the cost of what you ate, everything you was, you were, you were conscious of it. You know, we didn't have VC money. We didn't, you know. Well, I'll say too, if we're talking about sandwiches, we can't ignore Potbelly. Potbelly is hands down one of the best. I think it's better than Rosie Mike's. I think it's better than Jersey Mike's. I'm going to say that, sorry. Yeah, I would. Well, see, I would say the thing I think about Pot Bellies is it shocks me when when I we used to go there in the city and you would go to the door and the way we would decide, you walk down the street on 7th St. and as you're walking down you see a restaurant like Pot Bellies. And if a line was out the door, you wouldn't get in it. But if it was just inside the door and think about from the counter to the door and you would get in the line and you'd have a sub and 5 minutes.

24:56 I mean, it was a machine every place you went. Now then I go to one out and rest them. There are three people there. They're slow as hell, yeah. There's there's two people in front of me. I was there with you, I remember. Oh, you were there and I was. 16 I remember this. I almost, I was just like I I but I and and they were will. You're just like, Oh my God, do you know? I think hand eye coordination from when I was a kid till now is even worse than it was. It's only good in the city, it's when you're outside the city for some. Reason know if it's good in the city anymore to be honest. But what did you? You always got a wreck, right?

25:39 I always got a wreck. I always was one of. I was always in the Italian order, yeah. I like, I like the wreck because I like the crunchy crap that they put on it. And I don't know if that was they had their own like pickle, whatever the heck it was and it was crunchy, it was good and tasty and all that kind of stuff like that. Why ate a sandwich? The other day, that was strange. It was a What was that like? Would you consider district Taco sandwiches? No, that's a Taco. Is a Taco a sandwich? I don't know. I don't think so. If a hot dog is a sandwich, it's a folded bun A. Taco. OK, A Taco is a sandwich. Yeah, I. Mean it's a. Donaire is Donaire a sandwich? I don't even know what the hell doner kebab doner kebab is. A kebab, A sandwich if it's.

26:22 In we don't put it by Brad. Well, PETA, you do like a wrap. Like shawarma. Shawarma. Oh yeah, When you do, when you do a a gyro hero, whatever you call it, that's a sandwich. Yeah, I think it's. 100% think. It's a sandwich, whatever you want to call it. I. I do love a nice gyro. Gyro's so good. But I mean, I hear when I make them at home I get. You make gyro at home. No, no. I mean, the kind of sandwiches I make here are, I had the hot dog sandwich, hamburger, that kind of stuff like that. Most of the places around here, the burgers are like big buns. They're pretty good. Oh yeah, yeah, good burgers. Really, really overly juicy.

27:03 I would say I become an aficionado of a chicken sandwich. Chicken sandwich? What do you mean? You know, like hot chicken, Hot Nashville chicken sandwich. What about Fox? Well, that's a big thing. Now is the the hot chicken places? You ever see those? All over the place. All over the place in LA, yeah, LA. When I first moved out here, it was. There's one every block and then there's reiterations of them as well, 'cause all you really. I don't. Want them that hot? I want them. I want it. I want, I want a little. Mild. I need a little heat. Little heat. As a white man, I can't. Eat a little things. A little doesn't work. It doesn't work very well, no. I would tell you, there's some people I know that can just, they can suck down the Filipino, Filipino hot and it's just funny. Well, I went to a Thai place the other day and I got a like a mile or yeah or what?

27:51 What is it? No medium. Medium. Yeah. And I was sweating and I was crying. Do you think Thai Thai Hot is the hottest? That's I would say it's a different form. It's definitely, it hits you in the sweat glands and more so than your tongue. I don't know why. Like I'm just hot. I would say that's probably the hot, hottest thing, yeah. 'Cause that's the thing that makes my nose run. Or Indian Indian. It's pretty hot. Well, we had Indian hot. I had Tiki Marsalo the other day. That's not hot though. That's like, no, no, they they tell you how would you like it? And then I was going like medium. And then she looks at me and she kind of smiles and I go and I say and I, I said old white man medium. And she started laughing.

28:35 And she goes smile. I go, OK, I'll remember that. Thank you. Well, that was like when we was with. Me and I and I told him and he was like. And he goes, I want to make it a little hot the. Hottest is definitely Szechuan. Szechuan Province hot pot is the hottest. Anyone anything from the Szechuan province is the hottest in the world. I'm pretty sure. Because of the amount of chilies they eat in per like per dish. It's way more than any other place in the world, but I think so I. Think that's good for you? Well, capsin, which is what pepper is, right? Like the the chemical thing that makes it hot is proven to relegate or get rid of cancer. Yeah.

29:18 And that gives you a heart attack, right? No. Well, that and a lot of prostate cancer too, which doesn't really make any sense. I think it would give you prostate cancer, but no. Yeah, it probably burns a hole through your stomach though, yeah. That 100%. Or your esophagus is gone and you're, you know, you're all that kind of stuff like that. Well that's the whole thing with people to get throat cancer. It's a lot of the times caused from acid reflux but cause your esophagus gets it a lot, yeah. Well that's all I'm going to die is throat cancer and smoking cigars. Well, that and then anything. For a day. Charcoal base if you if you're eating a lot of charcoals, stuff that's cooked with charcoal gives you cancer, or if you're drinking really hot things I'm. Gas I I cook, I do as well. My my grills are my grill has been gas for the last 15 years. I like it on charcoal.

30:02 I like it on I don't. Notice a difference? It's a little. It's a little you, you know, frankly, you can get like a juice you can spray on it, this Oracle juice, you know, which is probably cancer causing too. But I mean, whatever you want, you know, smoke, I think they call it wood smoke. That's it. It's called wood. Oh yeah, like the chips, like you throw the wood chips on there. Yeah, there's that, but there's also wood smoke sauce that you can spray on it and it'll make it taste like it was cooked with woods. Interesting. Yeah, it cannot be good for you. It's a little flavoury. But you know what? I decided to it's like. The crap we eat. Come on. Well, I've been. Smoking cigarettes for what, 7 years? And it's like, I don't really care. I mean like people are all like, oh, you better watch how your underwear has phthalates in it that will give you testicular cancer.

30:51 And I'm like, if I'm afraid of my underwear, just shoot me. Just shoot me if I'm afraid of my underwear. That sounds like something you do to yourself when you're by yourself and no one's around watching. Look it up, a lot of cotton underwear has. Phthalated. Rayon base has phthalates that will give you cancer, testicular cancer. And I got to say, if I'm afraid of my underwear, it just kill me. I don't really care anymore. Yeah, I I stopped. Caring. You're pretty far away, so it's going to be difficult for me to get that done today. Looking at your phone every day anyway, it's blasting your brain apart. So it's like if I'm doing that every day and then I'm afraid of my underwear too, I there's really, I'm just going to start being afraid. Well, there's so many things a lot of you know. And it's like I work as well live until I'm dead. I don't.

31:32 Know we have the new wacky conspiracy guy in HH that's it's talking about all the things that'll hurt you and kill you and all this kind of stuff and. Always tying this back to the government, aren't you? Yeah. And then he goes swimming in the sewer. You're like, dude, maybe that's the problem. Dirty Jobs guy did that years ago, I remember that. Do you still have the discovery collection I gave you for Father's Day in 2009? The Hell's that the. Disk set where it was like the Discovery Channel. Oh yeah, I watched a couple times. I still. Do did you go back and read? Let's watch Dirty Jobs when I come back, Dirty Jobs? Dirty Jobs is good. That's where he used all these dirty jobs and then they do the job and it's kind of dirty. Yeah, remember that. I had some filthy jobs.

32:13 I I worked at Papa John's. That was cool. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. You, you kids today. That was fun. That was a good time. The dirtiest part about it was getting paid $2.30 an hour while you're on delivery. That probably was the worst part, yeah. And delivering to what is it 50 pizzas to one house and they tip you a dollar? Or they'll just tip you $0.10 to round it up. Yeah, and you just like, you know, I know where I know where I'm going to urinate when I need now. Well, that's kind of what I realized at the end of the world was soon. And I think we're still pretty getting pretty close to that, yeah. You think? Yeah, humanity is. Seems like we're, yeah. We're no longer respect each other on any sort of front, and I don't know if we ever did.

32:55 I don't know, I think. We have been held at Bay, I think for a long time by the phone and you know, and I think that people have been well, there's also that we didn't have this instantaneous communication across every the world with somebody you don't know who has a a different opinion from you. Usually you live in a town and all the people raised in the town never went more than 5 or 10 miles away. So for years and years and years and years and years, the only opinions you're hearing are those. And then occasionally you hear a night time meeting news on what's going on, you know, and read the the local newspaper saying what local stuff's going on, you know, and everything's local and everything's there. And then all of a sudden it's like, you know what? That's the thing I noticed in like the 90s that kind of surprised me as I started to see that, you know, the kid gets run over in Chicago and I'm like not it's a it's a horrible thing, yes, and it and, but, but it runs on the news and you're like, but, but I live in Virginia. It's crazy and you're.

34:06 One way. Well, you know what it is. And you would watch it and you would listen and, and then the lady, the proverbial idiot, would come on. Well, I don't know. I was out there throwing rocks at the police and they shot me. And you know, and you're just like, Oh my God, you know, And you would, you would just, and they would, they would play that and you would just see this over and over and over. And then, of course, you know, we, we no longer have news stations. We have propaganda stations. And well, it's fear mongering that existed at the start of McCarthyism. It was only continued by the News 24 hour news cycle that was newly invented in the early 2000s. And ever since we started hating Muslims after 911 and that kind of dissipated. We need new people to hate. And therefore the new stepped in and made us afraid of our neighbors through what was it the the missing children's campaign where they were making ID cards from me when I was in elementary school, which only kind of was a continual thing that your family members are going to kill and sexually assault your children. So then we were afraid of our family members and then most people, most, most sexual assaults are done by family members exactly, which is crazy.

35:09 So at the same time like the whole idea that you needed ID card. I would say I'm sexual assault free from family members. I think I am as well, but at the same time. But then like everything every so often comes up where they are. Like the whole COVID thing where they immediately demonized Asian people and then it seems like every couple years we get a grasp on something and it's so purposeful, who we hate for a sporadic period of time and then right now. Spanish people and it's it's, it's anybody that's brown that appears to have come from and, and, and it's funny, 'cause everybody just centralizes it and calls them Mexicans when they come from and. It's no longer Americans anymore. You see, that isn't that interesting. It's no longer Asian people, but you know, they don't have. Asians right now is.

35:59 We need to always be afraid of like a certain amount of people because I think as soon as we stop becoming afraid, we start critiquing the government on a higher level. And that's why, that's why we always need to be afraid of something, even under Democrats. We need but do you, do you see? I I think we need to be afraid of the Russians. Yeah. No, I would agree with that. But the one thing that that I mean, the question of the day and that we need to answer and we haven't answered yet is, has all this fear made sandwiches better? I don't think so. I think that the quality of sandwiches has gone down. I remember Subway used to taste a whole lot better in 2009, 2008, it definitely did. Now it tastes like the it's made with hatred and I don't think I like that. I don't think I like my sandwiches made with hatred as I like a joyous person to make my sandwich. But at the same time, what is your favorite sandwich? That's a that's a hard thing to do when I think of doggy style. That's my favorite hot dog.

36:53 That's my there's just, there's no way. And it was the, was it the hurricane? No, the hillbilly. Oh yeah, Hillbilly. Hillbilly was just like, what was it, Chili sour? Oh. I didn't like that one. Mustard and it was like it was a hot dog that was a foot long and there was two of them and it was homemade Cuban bread that they cooked. They, they made and cooked there. It's in Rehoboth Beach. The guy, I mean, telling the story when you listen to the guy and in the store, it's just like, Oh my gosh. And it's a top hat place. It's got a top hat on. And you know, I just love that store. That that to me is I it. It's I've never found a better hot dog place and I've eaten in a lot of hot dog.

37:36 I can give you the sandwich place that I enjoy the most, and it's in Beverly Hills and it's one of the best sandwiches I've ever eaten. It's a chicken aioli sandwich with avocado and with extra aioli on the side, and it's nothing short of a miracle. Sounds kind of wet. It's it's not that wet. No, it's it's actually pretty dry 'cause it's homemade ciabatta that it's on. I think if I had to eat. One sandwich for the rest of my life. It would probably it's really hard, but it it provided we can make different type of burger meat, I would do the burger cause for me the hamburger is just you cannot I cannot top that if provided I have the right amount of condiments. If there's if I've got 75 comments condiments, I I can make a burger taste F different every single time. I can do the same thing with a hot dog, but I think a burger gives me less acid.

38:34 I don't know why hot dogs seem to give me more acid 'cause I eat more, you know, shitty things with them. Hence the the ulcers in the In the mid 90s, after five years of nothing but I remember my wife asking me, do you think you could make your lunch? Maybe that would make your stomach better and you wouldn't have to drink a bottle of Milanta a day. Bottle of Melanto days and say sorry. I'm trying to find the the the link to the sandwich spot. Here I was doing that. That's that's what happens when you don't take care of your sandwich. Take your sandwich eateries. Well, you know what's funny? As I'm growing older, I'm realizing that you've given me the amazing predisposition of stomach acid and it's terrible. I'm going to say I. Don't. Oh yeah.

39:14 Burns your guts out, burns your. I have the esophage inside and all that stuff. But I mean, you know, a pot of coffee in the morning, I remember that I would make it on the desk and I told the story probably 10 times in this and I get there at like 7:00 and the partner would come in at 9, right? And we had, I did 2 hours on the front end, he had two hours on the back end. And I'd make a pot of coffee. And we had one desk that we shared. We had one desk or two, I don't remember. We got these $30 desks and we had an office that was a 10 by 14 office. There was 1000 bucks a month, but it was the location was dynamite. We were in a perfect spot And that's how we grew business and that's how things work. But I'd make a pot of coffee when I walked in the door.

39:58 And when he walked in at 9, he would, he would pick up the pot and he would do this and he he pour and you get like 3/4 of a cup and he goes, oh, you almost saved me a cup today. I remember you telling me this story a couple times. I don't know how you drink coffee when you're hungover. I know so many people that can drink coffee while they're so hungover. I'm like, I can't do that. It makes me nauseous. I can't find the damn sandwich place. No, no. Oh, wait, wait. I got a picture right here, though. Oh my God. So it it actually was. Italy makes a great sandwich. Too medo arugula with the with the aioli. Yeah. The chicken breast is the juiciest thing I've ever eaten in my life. What's it called? Avocado.

40:40 It's just a chicken aioli sandwich. What's the what's the what's the one? The Shake Shack? The original burger. It's OK. It's so salty though. It's but it tastes like a salt lick. I hated it in Japan the other day. Or Korea. But it's not the same. And when you go to, when you go to Manhattan, you go to where's the little pointy building? What the hell is that? Oh, the I know exactly what you're talking about. That park right there is where the original Shake Shack started and we used to go there and it was right at the the beginning of the rave of salads. Remember when they had all these stores that kept sweet green, that make sweet green, sweet leaf Cava, El Dorado too, all this other happy horseshit.

41:24 Well, they open the Shake Shack then on or around that time and it was sort of like what's your alternative salad or burger? And but you have those smashed burgers and they were the closest thing to just a wonderful burger. I mean, I'm still a Five Guys. Like I mean, ever since you told me the story about if I can make it at home, what's the point? You know what I will say it's Five Guys. It's one of the last places that hasn't minimized their their burger. Ever since the pandemic, you've seen that these places have one increase of prices twofold and then shrunk their product down about twofold as well, which is nothing short of bullshit. And when I went to Wendy's the other day, I got a Baconator, right? Not the son of Baconator, regular Baconator.

42:06 And it was the size of the son of the Baconator. It's interesting. They shrunk the hell out of it. Bizarre. And it pissed me off. It really pissed me off. Yeah, 'cause the Baconator to me was like, you'd eat that 11:00 in the morning and you don't have to eat again until 8:00. I was hungry two or three hours after I was shocked. No, and they're, they're, Oh my God, 'cause I ate that Baconator once and I and I and then, you know, there was also questions about whether or not you're going to be able to use the bathroom and you couldn't use the rest of the day. Well, you know what Alex told me? There's a Baconator hack that he made a better baconator than the regular baconator exists. You want to know what it is? What Baconator? Right. Extra mayonnaise. Add raw onions, add crispy onions.

42:46 And my God, the texture on that is nothing short of what I imagine getting into heaven feels like after you've killed 10 people. It's amazing crispy. And raw onions. Crispy and raw onions, yeah. Whoa. Yeah, it is. It is. See when I go, when I go. To I get from God. When I go to pop guys, I get the works on everything. They're like you. Want. Oh yeah, yeah, you want. Royal onions you want cook and I'm saying yeah. About five years ago, I realized that I became a man when I did all of that. I added all the ingredients and then I ate them like I like this more than the plain burger. Right. It really taught me that. I if I want to eat a plain burger, I will just go bite a cow in the ass, OK? You know, I mean really, why?

43:28 Why would you? Why would you not? Go cow tipping. I remember BGR used to exist. I think it's it no longer. Exists. Yeah, they were. They were good for in the beginning, and then they started cooking the burger and then it was a sopping wet mess. And I was like, why? Well, that's when I stopped ordering burgers medium rare. I think that's silly. I think it they need to be medium well. I think they do. If you can, if you can. I think the problem with what they did is they were putting a a slab of butter in the middle of it. That's what that's what killed it. That's what killed it for me. They were off. It was like it was blood red in the middle. I'm like, I cannot eat. This we first got it. Yeah.

44:08 Yeah, You don't want it. I don't want a cold center burger. Yeah, that is just I want that's naughty for the rest of the day kind of deal. I want, I don't. Need, I want heavy pink and I mean, 'cause if you, if you get a rare or medium rare burger in the UK, there's like white lung material in it. You, you, you know, or Scotland or Ireland. No, you, you, you. All you say is cook the shit out of meat. How do you like it? I like, I like. I want to cook the shit. Remember Sicily? You did the. To shit we ate the. Burger at the Wine place, you remember that? And the power was out. And there was. A Oh yeah. And mom was like, what is this? And when they asked, they're like, we don't know what it is. And it was a that was like, you're serving it to me. You don't know what it is.

44:53 Yeah, it's kind of cool. That's kind of awesome. We did that with a lot of things. So much So what other I mean, if I think about my favorite sandwich, I would have to say a burger. There's probably like top three. If you said you can have three things, I would. I'd be hot dogs, hamburgers and Italian sub. Yeah, I would do that chicken aioli sandwich from that place that I don't know where it is you. Know where? Chicken sandwich then, right? What? About like tuna salad or chicken salad. Aioli is really what makes it. Oh, you know who just added chicken salad to their menu? Jersey Mike's. Jersey Mike's actually just added a whole new chicken. Product Your mother Your mother cooked chicken, chopped it up, put in almonds and grapes of all.

45:35 I don't believe in that. I'm sorry. I don't believe. In the Oh my God. I don't believe in it. I don't believe in it. It's weird. I don't like it. It wasn't whole grapes, it was sliced thin grapes and it was just, I believe loved it. I just. Can't do it that way. Lots of people that had raisins to it and I'm like. Oh that make me. Oh God, I would boot. I would. I can't do it. I can't do that. That'd. Make me head for the men's room. No, I can't do it. But yeah, Jersey Mike's just added all new chicken products. Go check those out. There was the hot chicken Italian I ate the other day, which was honestly the best sandwich I've ever eaten. Trying to think of the different places that Moe's, that's fried chicken, that's. Chesapeake Bagel Bakery has an amazing freaking chicken salad. Italian Italian.

46:19 They also have a great Italian too. Italian Chesapeake. Bagel. They have better bagels than New Jersey and New York. I've been. To that's really hard. I mean it's really sad to say, but yeah, from the the ones that I've eaten, they taste better there. And I don't know, it's because they use a better oil because usually, you know, you're frying them in a they fry them in a big round tub. They drop the things in and they cook them. It's not like you know it ain't baked. I've been to 10A10 bagel places out here in LA. None of them even compared their chewy here. And like, you don't make a chewy bagel. What is that? And then even in New York, you know what they aren't? They're freaking chewy. They're chewy. Nobody toasts their bagels like they used to. You think they're too betting these ones are kind of flat out here. But I don't know about New York.

46:59 I think New York, they're too thick. But even the ones at Chesapeake Bagel Bakery, Chesapeake Bagel Baker, I don't know if, you know, this was a huge, huge company that was all over DC, and now there's only three locations left in all of America. Yeah. It's so sad. Yeah. It's depressing. Chesterbrook Shopping Center. Well, that's. I mean. McClain That happens all the time. Remember? What's it something chicken? Oh. Chicken out, Yeah, talking about. Chicken out. Yeah, and it was just like a grew, grew, grew. No Boston chicken. That's the 10 Boston chicken. Chicken was a real. Chicken out. What happened to Chicken Out? Chicken out was got wiped out by Boston chicken. Boston chicken became and then it was like just chicken country or they changed the name and. Well, if you want to talk about Virginia based sandwiches, you're going to have to talk about Santinis. You're going to have to talk about that. Oh yeah, yeah, I love their onion rings. And there's steak and cheese, but the the best steak and cheese I've ever had though, is at McLane. McLane Restaurant.

47:57 Not the McLane family under, but McLane Restaurant. What is the McLane, that little pizza place? McLane Pizza. Oh yeah, that's gone. That's gone. Yeah, it's gone. But that place there, those steak and cheeses were just wow. I've never eaten one there. Yeah, it was filthy. It tastes good when he had dirty. Hands I. Don't know why. Maybe that was it. The the everything was torn in there. The naugahyde was torn and naugah. But Boston Chicken was taking over for a long time, and now that whole restaurant there is, what is it? It's a burger place. Right. What is a burger in a burger? Remember, we used to do, we used to Boston chicken that one burger at Z Burger. That place is going to be the next Boston Chicken, I think. I don't think Z Burger is going to survive. They survived in DC for about 10 years, 10 or 11 years. What about?

48:43 Z Pizza. Think about that. Oh, I forgot about Z. Yeah, we can we. And that would be. Greater also. We'll do an episode on pizzas later. Yeah, we'll do that. That's next week. Catch us on episode one O 1 for. Really favorite favorite sandwich place? Probably the Terry's favorite. I mean the Italian Subs they make there are just in the little tiny Italian store on Florida Ave. or just like. Wow, I'm going to go chain potbelly. Potbelly chain and then I'm going to go regular, not chain sandwich. I'm going to go the place that I get the chicken aioli sandwich from yeah or I'm going to go bread ahead in Santa Monica. That place is so. Good. Hold on, what was that chicken sandwich Char broil? Charga chicken.

49:27 Yeah. OK, that's the best fried chicken sandwich I've ever had. Best fried chicken sandwich I've ever. Had better than Popeyes and that is impossible. Can we go up there? I mean, when I come back, we're going to go there when I. Come back, we're going with Char Broil. They're so around. I was talking to Christian about it because Christian introduced us to that place. Yeah. And there's just like, never anybody in it, but there's always people coming and grabbing the food, taking us. And it's like, it's empty. It's got 20 places. It looks kind of filthy. But the chicken sandwich was just God. Came down. I've done the rotisserie chicken with the side with the sides and it's Oh my God. Like every single thing they served there is nothing short of the best. I remember during the pandemic we kept them in business because they needed to and then they got robbed like a week after or something. Yeah, it's because you told people that you were going there and all of your friends were hoods.

50:10 They are hoodlums. Damn hoodlums. Why? Can't wait to edit this. My microphone is disconnected three times. It's gonna be great. I think we're good here. I think we're. We're we're we're seven hours and our favorite sandwiches are just about anything. I hate bananas on a sandwich. OK, did. You ever eat the You ever see the Blue Apron meals? It's like strawberry goat cheese sandwich with. I like. I like those occasionally. I don't believe in that. I don't have a patience. I don't believe in that. I don't think it's I don't think it's fruit belongs in a sandwich. I. Don't have patience. Patience for what I. Don't have patience to put all that shit on it and make it. You just you know what make a like makes make food. No, no, I mean Blue Apron.

50:53 Are you talking about the delivery service? The. Delivery. Yeah, yeah, but they have a strawberry goat cheese sandwich with like a honey drizzle on top or something. But you have to make it. Yeah, but you have to make you. Got to cut up the hot strawberries. You got to cut up this. You got to cut up that, cut up this. I mean, the reason I like a hot dog is I can put 6 or 8 things on it. It takes me about a minute to prep all those 'cause they all come in pre cut bottles. And with an intro. I, I don't even, I don't even slice tomatoes anymore. I just buy the little campanellas, you know, the little tiny ones. They're not the, not the real small ones, but like the medium sized ones. And I take two or three of them on the plate, and I eat. And I then I take a whole 1 and throw them in my mouth and eat. It, it takes me about maybe on average 15 minutes to cook something 'cause in general you pass in a protein, then I'm done. That's it's really fast.

51:39 It's really, really easy stuff. But then you see all these influencers doing like meals in 20 minutes or less. I'm like, you think the average person spending an hour on what they're cooking? Shut up. Shut. Up we we did a we did a great diet and it was a great thing. I don't know, I think it's Meals on Wheels or something. Maybe it wasn't that. Oh. No, the green chef is what you're talking. About Green Chef, Yeah, yeah, that was. Really good. Why'd you stop doing that, huh? Repetitive. Oh yeah, they only have a repetitive. And it was too many meals a week and it was at least 30 minutes. It was compartmentalized. So to make the food properly, you had to cook the pine nuts in one pan, you had to cook the meat in another and you had to bake.

52:22 And you they would have you using two pans on the stove. They would have you using the oven and the microwave and and they used everything and you would dirty like 6 or 8 dishes. And now I think that's great if you're hanging out with your wife and you know where your girlfriend or whatever. And you? Want to make it fun and enjoyable to, you know, kiss and make up and drink a little wine and love dinner and everything? But if that's the fucking Tuesday night grind, no. That's crazy, yeah. No, no, I can make a hot dog in 2 1/2 minutes, OK. Exactly. And it's just satiating, too.

53:05 Yeah, that's why I'm here, because I had my hot dog. I completely agree. Happy guy, even my my Nathan. 'S We love sandwiches. Although I've been liking Hebrew nationals more lately. You like sailors, right? What do I like? I like the poll out Johnny's. I'm not really a big poll out Johnny's guy anymore. I don't know it. It kind of. I was for a while and then I had one that wasn't great and then I'm kind of against it now, isn't it? I don't really like kielbasa either. Kielbasa is too fattening. It's too fattening, hot dog wise. A ballpark every time. Yeah. Ballpark. Yeah, hands down. I can eat eleven of those. Man the. Ballpark is good. Well, on that note, my dad says mayonnaise on hot dogs, you guys. Should know that's disgusting.

53:45 That's hot dogs with us. We'll talk to you next week. A record of myfather.com. Check this out on YouTube, Spotify, and everything in between. I really got to update the YouTube I've been, I've been falling behind on that. We're on episode 84 and then we're up on this episode 100. Somebody, we need an intern. If anybody wants to intern, hit us up on our website. Actually, we have an e-mail server. All right, goodbye.