End of Life

0:02 Welcome back to another episode of A record of my father. What are we talking about today? End of life. So what is that? What? Yeah, I think. That's it, I think. Yeah, mine's already ended, So what the hell. The happy go lucky The happy go lucky topic today. I think it's, well, The thing is we were sitting here kicking around and it's like, well, you know, when you think about it, I think that that that a lot of people do not communicate clearly what they want. I mean, I've I've been through a number of relatives that have died and I don't know exactly what they would have expected of me.

0:43 And by the time I knew they were going to die, it was sort of too late to ask him, you know. So I would like, I I think it would be a really cool thing to do that, you know, you and I have talked about my demise or mom's demise or our demise and all that. You kind of know where everything is. And I think that that's very, very, very important because they're they're in a lot of like in my younger days when my when my parents parents passed, they were completely clueless as to what they should do. There is no simple thing. My, my, my wife's going through it right now with her father died. And there's, you know, there's things that are that are scattered. Well, I think what happens too very often is that you have somebody that is not mentally well and then you have people that come in and try to take advantage of them or they change their their to do's around because. They wanna make it their their wishes and not not the person who died.

1:43 Yeah, I remember seeing a number of things and where they would take the person around to banks or something like that. Oh. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That was another. One that was another one where where people are getting people to sign over stuff and hear about this all the time and I have friends were their parents. The one of the siblings moved in with the parents and basically emptied out their accounts doing stuff and then left, moved in to take take care of them and then left. And it's like in the end, but but that's like, I mean taking advantage of your parents, like one of your siblings can or cannot do that or somebody can come in and do the same thing.

2:24 I think that's sort of luck of the draw and whether or not your parents are going to trust you to come in and say, hey, quit being a dumbass, you know what I mean? No, exactly. I guess. I guess if you have anything or if you don't have anything, is this is this person in there for another, you know, unscrupulous reason or is it just, you know, it's a lot of times it's old people don't have anybody and that's love. No, I think so, so. They they reach out to each other and they lean on each other and they depend on each other and you know and they die and one of them is just left there taking care of it, you know So and that's going to happen a lot coming up. You know, we are. We are in a huge population where there's a, there's a metric shit ton of old people going to, you know, pop off in the next 30 years and you guys are going to be there with a snow shovel scooping up all the yuck.

3:12 Then maybe that's the is that a. Crematoriums are going to be filling the skies. They're going to be, yeah. It's going to be grey, grey clouds, Grey clouds you you want. The grey clouds of old people. Oh God. You want to be cremated, right? Is that is that? Yeah, yeah, I I I'm, I'm fine with that. I don't. I mean, I don't really care, but I I for me it it it doesn't really matter. It's a funeral in Catholic Church as well. Funeral in I I I am in opposition to religion in general, though I don't want to be, I don't. I don't believe that we need to find some person that's religious to speak for me who's never known me. If there's I always.

3:55 Found that weird at funerals. There's many, many, many of people that I'm associated with that are friends that are, you know, acquaintances that are religious and if they wanted to say something, we'll have at it, you know, and blessed to be whatever and all that other kind of. I mean, I have relatives, direct relatives that are religious and if they want to say something, fine, I don't care. I mean if that that would solve. It makes them happy, right? Yeah, because the funeral's not. Frankly, the funeral's not for me, dude. I don't care at that point. You know it's. You don't think you'll be watching it? You don't think you'll be watching it like a spooky ghost man? No, I I don't, I don't I will be at that point, I will be partial. What do you call it?

4:38 Ethereal or something. So everything. Rodent food. That's kind of you're going. To breakdown eventually. But with the formaldehyde, I'm not sure if you're going to breakdown fast enough to where you could actually, you know, and then are you going to help plants? Are you going to kill plants? I don't know. I never understood the whole aspect of when the minister like goes up and he's talking and he's oh oh, they're forgiven in the eyes of God and God has blessed them with this great experience of being fucking dead and. It's just. Like, Oh yeah, it's really it's funny it. Seems odd. It's very. Masturbatorial to me? I don't know. It's very, yeah, it's it's almost overtly ridiculous with the the. Especially if they.

5:21 Don't know, yeah. Well. Exactly. They don't. They never do. Yeah, well, they're there to calm that. We'll know when a lot of times they do. Really, it's it's the church that they used to go to, OK? Yeah, if you're it could be that or if your mother or father goes into Hospice, a lot of times there's priests there or doctor or rabbis or whatever other type of thing that you call them. They will come in. They're there. They're they're they're praying on the week at the end and they will create a dialogue and talk about, you know what, what about your life and they'll learn about you and and then they will speak and that is kind of like, I think that's kind of cool, you know, cuz they actually kind of learned something about you and they're saying something, but I don't know why that's more important than you.

6:11 They're trying to get that 15% to tithe over and that's what they. You, you, you have. You have talked to me and known me since you were born. My wife has talked to me and known me since she was 29 and she's now 64. My sister had has known me for I'm 64 and a bit. She's known me all those years. My older brother has known me all those years. Those people know more of my idiosyncrasies and where's my in laws. They know me much better. I mean, when you think about the different, the Travis and and Dina and and all, they know me more than like anybody that I'd make as an acquaintance on my deathbed.

6:53 Which seems kind of odd that I would let that person speak for me when in reality, you know, maybe because they're a better speaker, I don't know, you know. But it would seem to me that the best thing for from my perspective is to is to have people that knew you prepare something, even if it's paragraph or even if it's it's he was a he was a piece of shite. You know, I mean I don't care. You know. I mean get it out because at that point I don't matter. It really matters. The people that are still living, it's their loss their or their feeling of loss or the feeling of relief.

7:33 I mean sadly, you know you you you do you do get. You do. No, no, no, no. I mean you do in horrible situations where you hate somebody and they die and you're like, yeah, yeah, yeah. You know, I guess, you know, I don't. I don't really have that that that level of hate for anybody. I have that level of, yeah, I hope the prick hits a brick wall or something. Yeah, that. But not, not that, not the whole thing. But there's also like people that you see that die very slowly. Oh yeah, the suffering. Over years. And you say to yourself like, well, this is ugly and horrible and you know that to me and I've seen it. So it's it's it's not pretty.

8:16 And for me, I don't want that. If I get into and that's the reason that we've had the discussions we had and that's why we're talking about end of life discussions. And for me on record, if I get into being mentally incapacitated, I want to be put down like a dead rabbit man. Boom. Just go. And that's the reason why we're recording this episode is so that I can show this is perfect. I I am, you know I don't. I don't believe that that once I become a pudding head that there's any reason to like, I I don't get. It I think it's like it's worse for the people around them too than when they play unstable I am. Because because now I remember relatives that were very close to me and I loved very deeply, but I remember them in a different light. I don't remember.

9:02 You know and I've told you this before like my mother who went through Alzheimer's. I remember more of her being in a wheelchair with you know unable to speak. Did not know us. Just looked off in the distance. Then I remember her being the happy go lucky go get em type of you know whatever person and I'm like OK well that's that's not that's not the memory. I want to leave with you. I don't want to leave with you. I don't I don't want that I don't. I don't think that's going to make you grow. I. Just weird. How the memory works is that you remember the worst times imaginable, but you don't remember the good times. I do.

9:47 I do. I do, but not as much. I don't think I have some. Very, very visually strong memories. I mean, I remember I can remember one if I just think about it for two seconds, a minute. My mother pulling in, it's 5/30. She got off work. She worked at NTIS. She comes in, she has a blue 68 custom Ford. It's probably about six months old. First new car she ever bought, and she comes in and she not, and she comes to the door, she goes, there's something under the front seat. I need you to get it. She's got a big smile on her face. And my mom was tall and she always wore a tall hat, so she looked a lot taller, you know, so. You're like, holy crap anyway. Yeah, And she just had a big smile on her face. So I knew it wasn't something that was going to kill me and and I knew I didn't do anything wrong because you know, we you anticipate in in the olden days when you did shit wrong, your parents would you know, but she didn't. So I went out there and I I, I there was nothing. I go to the rear, I go to the IT was a 2 door and I open up the big door of the passenger side and I reach under there and I grab something furry and it goes and it scared the hell out of me, you know.

11:05 And then I checked a little more and I kind of like touched it and it was furry and it was look in my hand. And then I got it out and it was a little puppy. And to me, I mean I remember that dog Floppy. And I, you know, that was my first visual, that back to me. And the look on my mother's face was she had bought extreme joy to her children. It was just we were all in awe. And also, and you know, when you're a parent and you don't know this yet, but if you do something that makes your kids just beam, especially 'cause I had not the most wonderful.

11:50 We didn't have the wonderful all the time. Good, beautiful, perfect, you know, no, no eating the shit pie upbringing. But so when that happened, it was not, it was not a normal thing to see a happy, smiling, loving family together. And this was one of those times and it was, it was amazing. So I remember that. I would say that was almost an abnormality for your family. Yeah. Oh yeah, I can. I can go the other way and then I can tell you the story about the. But we don't need to go. There, no, we don't. About end of life. This is not about about the ugly things that that. The live in the shadows. Yeah. Hey, you clean, You clean the mashed potatoes out of the air conditioner. I ain't doing that.

12:40 Oh jeez. OK, as we digress. You know what? I was doing that. You know what I was wondering too is why is an assisted suicide more legalized across the country? And I think it's because they the healthcare industry would lose millions of dollars, Yeah. Yeah, I see. I think that's why when? You when you go there. And you. Well, The thing is, guess what? What? Hey, you're watching me die. Guess what? Here's I come up to you and somebody else comes. Up he goes, Hey, Zach, you got a lot of money, don't you? You know, we can let him live another month. Two months, Three months. Would that be cool? And you're thinking like, I'm only going to see him for three more months. I can double his time on Earth, You know he'll be here six months. That's cool.

13:23 They don't tell you selfish reasons, yeah. Well, right. Because it's, you know, it's end of life. And say you see me twice a year and then you're like seeing me all the time. And then you're like, wow, wow, wow, I got to make up for all that time. I didn't see him when I was having kids and all this other kind of happy horseshit and living my own freaking life, you know? And now I'm feeling guilty. So now I won't. I wouldn't keep him alive, you know? And who in the heck can look at somebody and say, yeah, you should kill him? I I think. I think it's a very strong person to do that. I I just think it's a hard thing but but also you have to know that. I mean you have to know that I want that. Oh yes. I think you've been telling me since I was seven, I think, yeah. That's why we built the garage, so you could take me in there and cut the car on and let me when. I was seven years old.

14:09 You're like, wouldn't I get Alzheimer's? You have to fucking kill me. Oh, OK all right. Child abuse, man. Child abuse, but that's what it. Is kid neck You're just nodding there's. Yeah. He's like, no, yeah. Oh jeez. Yeah. And you've been trying it since you were 12. You're like, hey dad, why don't you go out in the car and go out and. Start the car. Up. And I'll be out there to drive you somewhere. And you're. I'm like you don't have a license. Oh, OK. Maybe not. Now's not the time. Though let me just turn the car. Let me let me talk to you for I'll talk to you in a couple of months. So it became a laughing thing. But also it it'll be hard and it's going to be a hard thing to do but it's going to be I I honestly believe that it'll be the best for all parties. I think it will be and and it's my choice OK, mine I I think it's I truly think it's mine and but the only problem is is it once you go off the road to Puddingville then you you can't make that decision to whack yourself. So you're like you're you're in a bad situation, you know, But I mean we're we're talking on the one thing we also have to remember that that any end of life conversation you have with any of your family, you know, you need to make sure that you know where the hell everything is. There's.

15:32 Got to be. There's got to be one place for everything. There's got to be a safety deposit box. There's got to be one account you log on to. I mean, we have one account that you log on to and it has all the other information. I mean and there's, you know here I can give everybody the passwords if they want, but and then we have it on paper, which is you know. I can't believe there are people out there that don't consolidate and I know I. Know many that do and I know, well, yeah, I mean, I have a number of accounts out there that if I didn't tell you, oh, I'd have. No idea. Yeah. They would continue to converse with me on my e-mail address that you wouldn't have access to. That's the most important.

16:15 Thing. And then they'd be like, oh, I guess you just don't care. And then they would have it missing. They might. I can't imagine that they'd come hunting for you family members. No, no. No, I mean would would a would a mutual fund do that? I don't. Yeah, I doubt. No way, I doubt it. No, that's why. That's why there's this. I mean Valerie just she was looking when she was looking at assets and stuff for she's dealing with that you know now when you're when you're looking for things and she found that she was owed money. She found a, she's found a a old asset that she was owed 44 dollars and she just submitted a little form and got it. So and it's like one of these Virginia has a website where you can go and you can look up your name and see if they. And it's like any money that you're owed from any bank that you left $2.00.

17:05 Then like you leave $5 in a bank and they don't and they don't have enough fees to kill it because that's what they used to do is they raise the fees up and they just charge fees until you had no money in the account and then they would and then it'd be a dead account you know. But if you had enough money in it to continue to earn interest then you're like and they can't raise the fees after it happened all the otherwise they just say hey an activity on an account for six months means we we charge you the full amount of any mail and leftover and they you know that would be what the banks would like to do. But I think the some of the people that are watching the rest of us would fight against that. I'm. Surprised we haven't let them do that, considering the way that we've treated the banks in this country for the longest time. Yeah, we pretty much it's.

17:48 Kind of surprising. It's it's. Well, the reason we treat them that way is because they pay to be treated that way. And the weird thing is is they pay to be treated that way with our money. And that's what's so funny. It's just like if you if you start to really look at the system in the whole situation, it's like wow, we put money in, we give them, we grow them. They take that money, they lobby to charge us more money to get to our money that they gave us, that they we gave to them to make more money for us. And what they do is they use our money to make more money for them. And you're just like, well, well, that seems.

18:32 I know the circular of. Stepping on toes the cyclical process. I mean that's a really simple explanation of some of the things that go on. I mean and obviously they're not all that way, but you know, advantages are taken when they're given. And. Yeah. Before the end of your life, what are What are some things you want to accomplish? What's left? Oh, I don't know. I What's left to do? What's left to do? That's what I'm curious about. Oh God, I I The list was very, very long. That'd be a whole nother episode. We talked about legacy. What would that be? The next one? Oh. Or what do I? Legacy is different than. Yeah, that's right. That's what I want to leave behind what I want to do. I think that if if you were to pose the question, you'd say, hey, you got terminal, blah blah blah today, then I would have to.

19:20 Then I would have to make all of my, you know, I got a list of like 30 different places, 40 different places that I want to go in any given time. And I would have to shrink that really, really quickly. What's #1 next? What's? I mean, for me I would, I feel like. Is it activities or is it just going to places? I think for me the very best activity ever is walking through the woods sadly by myself, you know? Yeah, that to me is. I enjoy. That when I when I and and frankly it's it's actually better when I take the dogs, 'cause then I don't seem so creepy.

20:01 So I mean, that's why I really like the dogs. Old man in the woods. Well, yeah, it's it's weird, you know, you got some old guy walking along. And you always smile. At everybody, yeah. I smile and I say hi and everybody's like, holy shit, he's creepy, you know? And I'm like, that's. But I do that in New York, you know, and it's like whatever, you know, you do it in Japan. And they're like, they just look at you. And you know what I do? I smile. I started. Doing that and it's funny to see the shift in people's faces. Yeah. When you when you look at them, they're they're confused and they're like, oh, this is actually kind of. Genuinely a nice Well, it's not. It's not, so it isn't. It's not difficult.

20:43 To be decent and nice to people. And there's also a great introversion that's been going on for the past 10 years, I feel like where people have just been going inside themselves especially. I mean, in our last episode, we talked about it to some degree with COVID. Yeah. And how people? Just. Kind of retreated into their own minds for a long time, but I I still think that they're doing that and it's with the phone and it's with everything like that. I think, yeah. It's it's so weird to go out to dinner and see four people at a table and they're all on their phones. That bothers me. That bothers me. And we we do it too. I'm not. I'm not. I'm not. I never do it. I'm perfect. I'm. I'm not. I I don't do it. I mean, I mean the word, the thing that you point out many times we will watch a movie and we'll have a phone there.

21:25 We'll be looking at our. Phone. I don't understand that. That kind of thing. Wacko. Well, they see. That's why I like to go to the theater, because then it's very much something I wouldn't do. That's an experience. I cut my phone off. So it's like I'm, I'm learning that it's it's not a good thing to do and I there's nothing, there's literally nothing on the phone and there's no reason for me ever to be staring at it when I'm trying to watch a 30 minute show. It just it's just dumb. It's just dumb. There's nothing. There's someone. That's blinking at me. That's making me, you know I'm a pudding head. That's why I think two years ago, three years ago, when I was going to the gym, I just leave the phone at home. I just leave it at home when I go to the gym because it's like, why do I even need? Realistically, if there's an emergency, there's nothing I'm going to be able to do anyway, So 20. Minutes earlier isn't going to make any. Difference.

22:17 One hour difference. Yeah, I mean, if the house is on fire, OK. But at that point the house is on fire, what am I going to have a? Bucket of water? Well, hopefully somebody's already called the. You would hope so if I find out from somebody calling me, that means the house has been on fire for a while. It means that. And also it means that, yeah, well, I mean, whether or not you hear about a dead relative, you know? An hour or so. Yeah, an hour later. Or maybe you see it on the news instead of, you know, hey, Oh my God, that looks like my dad's head. Oh, wow. It is. That would be horrible. Yeah, displacing the phone, putting it somewhere else in the in the house has been a a big thing for me in the past couple years because it's so addictive.

23:02 It's so incredibly addictive. Oh my gosh. Well, it makes you like when you go to bed at night. Yeah, I know I'll. Be able to go up at like 9 and they're like, OK, I'll leave my phone downstairs. How you do that? It's like, well, because it makes me stay awake. Yeah, like. As well, Yeah, so like, but you're going to. Bed. That's why I don't really get. What do you mean before I go to sleep? Yeah, I'll read for an hour or two hours or three hours or. Well, you're an avid reader. Well, I and only have in the past three years, though. Three or four years and I haven't been. I was never an avid reader before that. So this is our sidetrack off of. What are the? What's the? Podcast for a reason, right? Well, I think, I think.

23:44 Ramble, yeah. Well, the ramble to me is to jump back to the topic and say, 'cause I'm sitting here thinking in the background right now, if you said you have, Oh my gosh, I got, I got two places I absolutely, positively want to go to no matter what. Well, maybe three. I want to go to Lotsa. But where's that? Which is in Tibet. Oh, it's Tibet. We are going to go in September. I want to go to the North Pole. I I absolutely do want to go to the North Pole. I want to fly. Why do you want to know? What is the? Is it just to say you went there or is it for what? Reason. No, I just it's just it's it's very weird because isn't it the RT idea of walking on the tundra?

24:26 You get close to it and then you drive there and then you. I mean, then you you, you fly to a camp and then you helicopter to the final place. That's like an hour and a half or something like that thing. And then you're just. You're like trying to place. Your walking around and that's that. And you're only there for like an hour and a half and it takes you like a week to get there five days or whatever. Anyway, I want to do that and it. Just wants the pin too, right? The the dot, The red dot with the pin. Yeah, that that'd be. That'd be cool that'd. Be cool. That and then the other thing is I want to see the pyramids. I haven't seen the pyramids. I would love to do that as well. I mean, I kind of want to go to Madagascar, but it's like I'm really, I'm really kind of torn because it's so it's so this is weird that I wouldn't go in all different places that that it's it's so bad there now, you know?

25:22 And I I just, I love the idea of going and seeing ancient things and walking where those have walked before that to me is when we were out West and sitting on the porch there and realizing that Clark Gable sat in the same place. I, you know, just that kind of thing when I go to, when I went to France or no Venice and we went to the little hole in the wall bar that Hemingway used to go to and sat on the same stool. That was sort of like, you know, I could sit there and stop for a moment and think that this great writer was here at this point when I was in, when I was in Africa and we went to Victoria Falls, we went to where Livingston was, you know, and when he's. He's Livingston.

26:09 Some dude, anyway. Yeah, I was African Explorer. And I believe I went there. It's, you know, it's sort of like the Machu Picchu and why I went to Kilimanjaro and climb Fuji and all the different things. It's sort of like I want to go to a place that was that made me feel like I've actually accomplished something, even though it's nothing more than a whole bunch of air travel and moving around and all that. It is invigorating though, going somewhere. And then just like I'm. Doing Yeah, I I know what you're saying. Something in your mind, it just, it feeds me in a different way.

26:51 And also I always try to learn something, you know, well, it's kind of hard to say that it's like, yeah, I I I guess you do when you when you do that. And but it would be more amplified if I would be dying because you would want to be, you know, I would think that all of my senses would sort of hopefully they wouldn't be erased but or or wiped out or messed up, you know, whatever our situation is, That would be a big thing. But you. Know you know, that's provided that you get notice. I think you learn no matter what when you. Yeah, a lot of people, don't you? Don't have to try you. Know. Trying to learn anything. Like you and I, like we end this episode. I go downstairs, I have a heart attack. I'm dead.

27:35 Yeah, exactly. I mean, that's why we're doing this. Yeah, there's no there's no shit 'cause. You know death is such a random thing, you know. You you could, I would think that you would make a little comedy skit about how he didn't get to do those three things he really wanted. To do that. You have to play this in the back. That would be just that I that would be so wrong that I would love it. We would have to do, yeah, I'd have to do something like that. I'm here. And the only reason I'm here is to tell you what he didn't get to do. I think the production value would go up in the podcast too, 'cause you would no longer be here and then I wouldn't have to pay you as much. Oh my God. Yeah, you. Wouldn't get the royalties that you hold it? I don't get fucking severance if I die. No, sorry.

28:20 I was thinking about doing the severance package, but OK, we're going to have. To hire an attorney, you'll be hearing from my lawyer, lawyers, lawyers. It's better lawyers than lawyers, Lawyers. That always sounds more threatening. Which one? Attorneys. Attorneys. That's more serious. Attorneys. Yeah, well, be happy. I love attorneys and people always. They make all the lawyer jokes. And I would say that, you know this thing, you're looking at this house, you're looking at that house over there, You're looking at all the stuff that we do, probably 2/3 of it have been paid for by law firms indirectly. And then they have paid for it because they built, they did client work for multinational companies. What sounds more threatening?

29:02 Lawyers or Just Attorney with no? Plural attorney. It does. I think attorney. Sounds way more threatening. How about my attorney with a gun? OK, that's OK. That's way worse. What about you'll? Be hearing from my attorney with a gun. And he has a briefcase where she where she has a briefcase. Yeah, I think that that that's double threatening the briefcase to me. My attorney is a gorilla. No, that's not right. Anyway, we were talking about the end of night and I gotta say like this is good. This I I think this is this. This gives some some key points. When you think about it is, is you got to, you got to have a centralized place where you have everything that you've ever had. You got to have a centralized plan. Of course you got to have a will and and do not or please resuscitate little thingy.

29:50 What do they call them DNRS. You got to have that kind of documentation. Every law firm will tell you how to have that, but you have to have all of your your all of your bank accounts, all your stuff in one place. I think it's good to have a person. Yeah, or you can have a person or you can have a person that has all that information. That also has a briefcase. Yeah, that also has a briefcase. That would be. Those would be some some of the key points that you would want to have and also some little paragraph that or some little verbal discussion that said, hey, what is this little? What is this asshole? How does he want to be plugged into the ground? Does he want to be, you know, shot out of a cannon and spread over a big village and let his stinky ashes fall down on them? Or I'd always love that, see.

30:32 That's what I always. Thought for. Me. For me, what would be cool is if I got naked or burned, fired up and then all my asses when you went travelling to different locations that you would just drop them. Yeah, and that to me. Oh, I thought about that. I'm gonna. I'm gonna leave a little bit. I'm gonna be a little bit of the old man here. I just for me that that would be wow, that would be great. I would love that. It's like the Malcolm in the Middle episode where they go to Burning Man you. Know what would be even better? They shoot the ashes out of a squirt gun at people and they just get soaked in them. I would do that, but I was saying that for me, in particular me. It would be cool if every location like distant place that you traveled to that you left a little bit of me in the bathroom. I I knew you were going to say that. I I knew you were going to say that. That would be like, hey, see that dirt on the floor there? Yeah, that's.

31:28 You want to know why? I knew you were going to say that. It's because I was going to say that. Oh God, we're we just would it be the top of the tank? Horrible, Would it? Be the top of the tank or would it be the the bottom? I don't, you know, I would leave that up to you, but I think the whole idea is, you know you could write my name on the wall in ashes or something that. 'D be funky top tank. Bill was here. Top tank in like a dime bag. Yeah, just taped to the inside and I go back ten years later and I'd see if they were so low. That'd be cool. They had one of those at Kilimanjaro on the 2nd, on the 2nd. They had a bathroom, yeah. They had a they had a bathroom that you sat on and it had a tank in the back, but it was everything was frozen and the water wasn't running and it was. You got to do sawdust at that altitude, I would think no. No, they had a they had some artesian spring or something that worked, and as long as the wasn't frozen, but the floor was like covered in water and it was, it was, it was filthy. It's like a skating rink.

32:28 Well, it wasn't the worst I've ever been in, though. It was. It was bad, but I've been in. The worst I've ever been is Penn Station. Gosh. Oh, that was bad. Penn Station. Yeah. Oh, God. Oh, God, yeah. Yeah. The guy on heroin next to me that was coming down and he was sick and he and the water was about an inch about this deep. And I was wearing my nice loafers and my suit and I had to go potty and he was next to me hurling his guts out and I'm just like, I got to go potty. I mean I had to and there was no other place. And it was like, you got to go, you got to go. You just just deal with it. And he's in there dying and he's spot splashing around and I kind of, I thought, you know, I don't know what it was. Anyway, spotting scene when they the guy goes. It was.

33:14 It reminded me of that, but it was before Trainspotting, like long. Before. Oh, it was before. Or 95. When did Trainspotting come out? Like 97? Yeah, I don't know, 98. I don't know like. That so crazy. Good movie, though. Good movie. Good movie. Wow. No, this is fun. We. We. Conversation. What are what other points can you think that you that we could have missed that you would want to know from me or your mother about our end of life? Thing. I think I already kind of knew to some degree that you were not of a religious background per SE. I knew that. I knew that much. I knew that you wanted to be deep fried as well. And same with her.

33:56 I know that she wants to be deep fried and I know that. But I think we. We pretty much nailed it. I think my question that I proposed earlier about what you want to accomplish before the end is also something that that's we haven't really talked about. Yeah. We have to. We have to we have to put that. We'll put that in the legacy like what you want to leave a bind but what do you want to accomplish You know once once you find out. I mean I I think about what I want to accomplish from now until when I'm dead, which I don't know how long that is. It's like that's a good thing that's a that that I have to I have to give it a thought from now until when you're you know pushing up daisies. It's like, what do you want? What's your? What's your?

34:37 It's not easy to think about. Yeah, it's not easy to think about it. No, it isn't. It isn't, because it's sort of like. Something to sit on. Well, I want to make people happy. I I just. I thrive on that. That's always what I've wanted to do, to make people smile because it gives me inherent joy. Yeah, it's and and help people that need help and you know and whether it be financial or otherwise, that kind of stuff. This is like to me, you know, I don't give for them. Yeah, I'm a selfish bastard. I give for me. You're the living embodiment of why altruism doesn't exist. Yeah, exactly. No, no, no. I I no, no, no, no.

35:18 You can't give that back. You gotta keep it, because that made me feel good. Exactly. Well, I think we're gonna wrap up. Here is where I've come up on our time and another great talk with you and we'll see you guys next week. We have AQ and a section in the Spotify, so if you guys have any questions, we have answers or if you have some answers to our questions, shoot us, shoot us a message on there. Thank you guys for everything. You have any departing words here? No, my only parting words is if anybody gets on Joe Rogan, you got to throw our name out there and we'll we'll give you a free coupon to Wendy's. Yeah, we'll give you a free coupon to Wendy's. It's a free Frosty valid twice per month for the rest of your life. Yeah, we have that.

36:03 Only between 2:00 and 4:00 in the afternoon. Only between 2:00 and 4:00, just like the AC guy that comes between noon and 5:00 PM only on Mondays. All right, everybody, be easy and we'll see you next week. Party on.