Early Jobs

0:02 Welcome back to another episode of a record of my father here. Today we're going to talk about early jobs, right? Tell what we're doing. Yeah, I think so. What do you think? That sounds good. Let's do that. Yeah, I mean, 'cause we were talking like we talked about first jobs and first thing out of it and how they affect and and and we were having a conversation about, you know, where did you learn things in your life? What taught you this lesson or that lesson? And I and I'm a real big believer in and early things that I learned the hard way that stuck with me and or I saw them and how how they applied and how later in life that and so many of those lessons were learned.

0:42 And you know my first early jobs, I mean I talked about the newspaper job and all that kind of stuff but I never talked about my first restaurant job. I worked for Manny Moon's Pizza Run and I mean it was I probably worked there about two years off and on my I think my brother fired me 3 or 4 *. I learned how to work with a family you know, which was or or not work with them. And also I remember the manager kept kept calling me back the next day saying, well, your brother didn't really mean it and I'm like, yeah, he hates that. So he was the manager, is what you're saying? Well, he was. He would be like the head cook that night and then he would he would treat me poorly and I would respond in an unpositive way like I would I would I would powder the dishes on the floor crash. You know, F you you can't fire me. I quit and then walk out the door and then leave them, you know.

1:39 And it's like I think it taught both of us a lot because you know it's management techniques were to yell at someone was the only one to show up tonight you got three you're supposed to be 3 people in the back. And I was by myself and I was doing all the dishes and I was washing that and I was washing the pans and then to on top of that feed me shit was a bad management thing. And I learned that. And then also I realized like how do you respond, you know, how do you respond to that when people give you a hard time Do you do you break property, Which is what I did, do you, you know? And that was it. I mean and and I would say that I was not exclusive. There were many, many, many other people that when they were upset and they couldn't do anything to management that was yelling at them, they destroyed property. They would break the dishes, They would, we would throw the pizza pans on the roof.

2:31 We would. I mean, we'd throw stuff into the field, 'cause we were just angry, and there was no recourse for that anger. Where did they that come from? Well, the anger came from people you were working. You're working in a in a kitchen, back, kitchen environment. It's probably 100° back there. You you have the radio set for a certain station and then for some reason the cook wants to listen to a different tune. The the, the music sucks. And he's more senior than you, even though they haven't been there as long as you. And they would come back and switch it and there'd be an argument, the Cook's in charge, blah blah blah. And then you're like, screw that. I'm, I've been here a year and he hasn't been here three months. You know, that kind of silly, silly little stuff. I mean, I was there.

3:15 I was there a little over a year, and there were all these other newer people that were there like a month or two. And I remember my brother coming back because the lady's bathroom was clogged. And, you know, that was the horrible thing to do, was to go clean it. And he comes back with a coat hanger and he's doing this, hey, it's time for you to clean. I'm like, no, get somebody else to do it. And then then then the way I said it was really kind of like I think I said, F you no stick that up your ass. I mean, I I was very. Yeah, personally. I I was not like, you should probably have somebody else with less than your to do that, which would have been the right thing to say. But I didn't say that. I was like, fuck you, you know, 'cause it was hot and you're bothered, and you're 16, and every hormone in your body's exploding at the same time.

4:03 And I said that, and then and then and then, you know, I I forced him into a corner and then he comes back to me like, do it or you're fired. And that was usually the answer to everything. So this is when you were 16, is that about? Yeah. And this just this doesn't that that management doesn't work for a lot of people. It may work for people that are missing the spine, but for me it's like I I just stuck my face right in his face and said fuck you oh. Wow. You can't fire me because I just quit and I walked out the door and then he's standing there with his great management tactic. He's got, he's lost his best person and he screwed on a Friday night and it's like, Oh my God, now I got two people to close on the busiest night of the week.

4:51 What did you? Do were. You and I just walk home. It's like 2 mile 2 1/2 miles and my anger would settle by the time I got. Home Were you Were you making the pizzas or were you? No. No, my brother was. He was the one that cooked and he was the one that made the pizzas he did. You were cashier or something? No, no. I was the guy that washed all the pots, all the pizza pans, cleaned all the dishes, I mean prepped the cheese, the prep cook. That's a big thing. You know, we did the prepping. I made the meat sauce, I made the the pizza sauce, I made meatballs, made lasagna. I mean, those are the different dishes that were homemade, truly made there.

5:34 There was ravioli in a can. I remember somebody came up and was like, yeah, I would like some of that homemade ravioli in my My brother holds up the can and goes, yeah, I'm gonna give you some of this homemade ravioli. And the guy just laughed. I mean, you're paying 495 for ravioli. Come on. Oh yeah, it's it. Ain't homemade. The lasagna was we made right there. I mean a lot of. The stuff we made. Right there. And we had a better cook. Pasquale owns a restaurant here in McLean now and he he was like the, you know, when they started making manicotti and all these other like veal dishes that were a lot more. And he went to Maryland, I think culinary school.

6:15 So he knew a lot about actual cooking. Whereas, you know, we were just speed, quality, you know, make it consistently with good recipes, good, good ingredients, and that made it better. It's important. And and and also I mean I learned a lot about management. I learned how to deal with people because you had the bus girls because they did something different. You had the waitresses and there was like a whole hierarchy of pecking order there. Like who was in charge of what and who could tell you what to do and how you could tell them to EFF off and they could tell you know and and it's like if you got people in the same level that getting it's just it's looking back it it's silly if you're. The manager, What age was he? I would have made him. 18, probably 18. 19 Gotcha. Well, he's. 16 If I was 16 then he was 20. When I started there I was like 14 or 14 and a half 15, so I was probably 15 to 16. 1/2 because they, I mean they paid me below minimum wage.

7:12 They always did. You know restaurants were real that way. They would give you a $0.25 meal ticket every cool hour and that way they could pay you below what the going rate was. But you wanted it. I mean, I also wanted a job working. So I got an idea and I worked there. I work at Chesapeake Bay Seafood House. Worked there for a really short stint. I know where that is, yeah. Senior in high school, we went there after our senior pictures and we sat there and drank beer in the afternoon and I was we were I was 17, we were all like 17. I remember there was like four of us. Peter was I and I the the the night manager of course comes in sees us there goes those guys ain't 18 fires. The waitress which was horrible fires us. We leave we say we would you know can we get her job back We and he's like no she screwed up blah, blah blah blah blah. We left we never thought that we could have just said well we're just going to call the police and have your liquor license ripped.

8:04 We didn't. We weren't smart enough to do that. But that was that was one of those bad lessons that I learned the and they were. That was a horrible place to work. That was much. That's probably. It's crap. Yeah. Well they used to they used to do stuff like it would take a good two. They would close at 11 and they'd clock you out at 12 even though. You were there till 2:30 or three or something. Right. They'd clock you out and say you don't need you guys aren't working fast enough and you were like humping your butt off to get out of there and they're clocking everybody and they're standing by the clock, holding the cards from a lot 1145 on yelling at you. So, so you were never responsible for your own cart, your punching card? Oh, I know.

8:45 Yeah. No. You had? It, you punch it in, but they would take it off and they would punch it and you would be like, God, what a, what a. It's kind of illegal. Yeah, they. They do. I mean you saw this in the restaurant industry where there's quite a few various, you know, crimes where there's labor, where where people stole, you know, they they underpaid you, you know, and I mean I think the, the, the thing that I learned was once I jump, you know, you're making two, three, $3.00 an hour when you're in in the restaurant business and then you got somebody that's got, oh, he's now like the fry cook and he makes 240 an hour and you were making 2:15 or he makes $3.00 an hour. He makes $0.50 more than you were like, wow, wow, wow. Well, first job I got in construction surely was $6.00 an hour.

9:30 Wow. It's. A big change. A big change, right? So and everybody, well, construction's a lot harder. I'm like, hell no, you work in the back of a kitchen. Oh my God, you make nothing and you sweat your brains out. You work your ass off, I mean, I guess. You could sneak. Around and do less, but you know and you're working in filth and it's like what's the difference between that and construction. You know construction to me was double the pay for maybe a little bit harder. It's harder physically you're. Outside, I mean, that's a big thing. You're. Outside and you're moving and all that and and the crew's the same. It's it's just they're a dirtier grubbier and a little older, you know, and they're all and you know they all like I would say there was a whole lot of drinking going on there when I was in, When I was at, it was at the restaurants there was drinking but not till the day day was done. When I was at construction.

10:23 People like they, they drink before they came to work. They, you know, they get high, you know. They were smoking that. Yeah, yeah. We had. When I did, I work for WG Construction and they did. They worked at this place called Harry Diamond Laboratories, which was shooting electricity across an open field that was like this really wild thing and we were building a building there and. What were they supposed to achieve by shooting electricity from across the field? They were. They were trying to see if they could shoot a beam of electricity from one point to the other with how much they would, how much it would dissipate or how much the like you shoot a 1000 volts or whatever it is it owns or whatever and then it goes from one place to the other and does it stay together. So you could you literally shoot a beam of electricity from here to a location on the other side of the world, as opposed to, you know, what do you need a weapon for? And.

11:13 This is like the electronic beam, you know, You see that stuff and and what was it You see it in James Bond? But they were they. Were actually they were actually doing it. You don't see it you just hear it and they tell you don't touch anything electric or you'll be fried I mean metal or you'll be fried unless you're in a vehicle and then you're grounded. So it's like it's like that and you know and I was asking him like what do you do he's a million volts or more and he goes, well it's not the volts that are bad. It's the Emperor's. I'm saying So is it a whole lot of I mean is an amps and you know and and electricity you know and volts directly proportional. They're like, well, yeah, I don't like, OK, whatever, you know, And you always get that argument and it's like, shut. Up, just flatlining, like a little. Bit, yeah, a little.

11:59 The little bit I knew about electricity but but but that was, that was an interesting job. Paid well. Physically grueling, Poor management. You know, they were. They were always The crew there was turning over all the time I worked. I worked as a backhoe operator for a while when I worked at Shirley Construction. That was fun. I wasn't really good at it. I'd taken a course at Nova and I was just good enough to be called shitty. So. Yeah, it's difficult now. Yeah, I mean it's not it's it's difficult to learn to do it properly.

12:39 Probably if you sat on a backhoe and you got to work there for say six months or eight months digging holes all the time you would you would get really good at it. But you need that any time to practice you need the the opportunity. I mean there was a guy there that. I mean, I remember when when I went to another place, it when I worked asphalt, they said, the one guy said I could shave you. I've seen people that like can balance 1/4 and flip it on the end of it. I don't know, that's that's ridiculous. But that reminds me too of a grandpa. He was a crane operator and I always thought operating cranes was something that's scary 'cause you what do you have like a one ton cable that comes down from like?

13:21 Five stories and you're moving. Six stories, six I don't know, 5-6 straight. Around, Yeah, he worked in Dulles. He helped put to put up Dulles. Yeah, he built Dulles Airport. All my my uncle, he's dead now. He did. Thanks for clarifying. Yeah, appreciate the Parkway, I. Was thinking I was wondering. Ridge Parkway, I mean he was and he ran and he, when he started it was a steam shovel he did in the old timey big giant things. And I remember I went there and saw him when I was a kid in the 60s and he was moving boulders off. And he said we wake up in the we come out to the job site and we would see mountain lions. They'd be in our camp, you know?

14:01 I don't know. It would be a little scared. Well, no. Think about this is done in the 60s. That was just all wild land that was that was mountainous and there was nothing there. And they put a road through the middle of it. It's got this beautiful Rd., but it totally disturbed all of the wildlife there, you know, with all the heavy equipment to build all that stuff for. The sake of American ingenuity, yeah. Yeah, it's beautiful and everything, but it it. You know that. And then I think about like all my management techniques. Did I ever tell the story about the asphalt when we were? I don't think so. Oh, that's. I don't think we did that one yet. Oh the it's it's I worked asphalt.

14:43 We we we had this thing called a rotomill which grind which I drive or I drive the AV loader which is pick up the asphalt we grind up the road like in the corners. So when you laid the asphalt the next time it would be even with the gutters. So if you go out and you and yet you were in a in any road the asphalt when you lay on a new layer of asphalt that over it goes over the gutters and then the water doesn't leave properly. So what we would do is we would grind down the sides of each Rd. by an inch or two inches whatever asphalt you're going to put on there usually an inch and a half something like that and that was what and that was the rotor mill. But we would go out there every day we we would show up at, we'd show up at the site at six or at the at the firm.

15:26 It was. I forget what it was. What was the name of it? Newton Asphalt show there every day at like 7:00. Then we go to the job site. On the way we get coffee. We'd stop at 711 and everybody run in and we get coffee and we do this every day. And then we had the manager, John, who said we're not going to get coffee today, we're going right to the side because it's important that we get started quick. So he says this and and everybody's like, well, we were in one truck, he was in another truck and he was running late and he said you guys go directly there.

16:10 So when I get there we can start right away. I don't want you piddling around at the coffee store and all that stuff. So we go to the, we go to the site and one of the guys jumps out of the out of the truck, runs over to the rotor mill, pulls the distributor cap off, pulls the rotor which is what makes connects the the electricity to the thing to actually make the engine run, puts the cap back on and turns around and throws the rotor as far as he can, which is to the edge of the parking lot and bounces and all that. And then we go back and you know, I just, I didn't know what he did because I didn't know anything about cars at the time or I mean about vehicles or engines or anything that comes over.

16:52 John gets to the site, tries to start it up, nothing works. So we're down and he's looking at everything and no one can figure out what's wrong with it. We're sitting over there like, you know, whatever. So then he calls maintenance, maintenance, sends the truck out, mechanic, mechanic comes out to the site to see what we're doing and see what the problem is because the machine's broken. So John sends us to the store to get coffee. So we go to the store and we get our coffee and we come back and it's like an hour and a half because we're way the hell out there. And the and the and the mechanics. Always going from side to side to side, picking up and cleaning stuff. Mechanic walks, pulls in his truck, jumps out, walks over, looks at the engine on from the side, doesn't even open anything, doesn't touch anything, doesn't do anything, and he just turns around. He does like a 360 and starts doing this left right look in the parking lot and he looks like this and he's standing. And he looks over here and he walks off to the corner and he starts walking around the edge of the parking lot and about 30 yards of walking.

17:59 He stops, he sees the rotor, he picks it up, he walks right to the engine, he pops the distributor, he puts it. Then he puts it back on. He hits the start button, he turns around, he looks at John, he says you better fucking stop for coffee and he just yells at him. And we were like. Oh well, did he get fired or no? No. No. No, no, but. But it wasn't his fault. Oh, this is the the guy that came in. OK, sorry. Yeah, this is the manager guy that wouldn't let us get coffee. And it was the line guy that threw it and he. Yelled. He knew why that was happening. Because he knew why? Because he'd probably He'd been a mechanic for 25 years, for that firm, for for Newton. So he knew what people what line guys do. When you piss.

18:45 Them off. Because when you're pissed off, what are you going to do? You going to beat up John? No, you're going to. You're going to damage the equipment. That's going to slow down the job. So you get a break. That's what people do, you know. And you can say that's wrong all you want, but that don't change the fact that that's what people do. If you don't give me a way to vent myself, I'll figure one out. And what does that mean? And they made their own HR department, you know? Yeah, but when I saw that, I mean, that to me was like this major management lesson that said like, wow, that's that's really wild. You know that that that that that guy knows. And he knew it was it was so weird to watch him get out of his truck and walk over and he had a Snooty look on his face when he walked in and he was he was a friendly friendly guy and he just looked mad because he he already knew what was happening and and and just you know and it was just so cool to watch it take place. And it's like he knew that somebody pulled something there and turned around and didn't even like step around the side or anything and just threw it in one of these three directions. Because he was like would they throw it left, right if they're right-handed or you know because it was so weird the way he just scanned it like that.

20:03 He just, like, looked around the the perimeter. This huge parking lot and then just started walking in a semi circle and boom, finds it and you're just like, my gosh. And it was just sort of like it was just an amazing little thing. But anyway, you know no. No. But I've seen that. I've seen that over and over and over when people get angry. I mean, when we got, we were supposed to get paid WG, we were supposed to. What was it? We were working there as laborers, and I worked every summer, and I would quit on. I would leave on a Friday and I would start school on a Monday. I would actually take my My mother would loan me her car, or I had my car at that time.

20:46 I would rent a U-Haul, I would load up my bed and a few other things, and I would drive to Norfolk that Friday night. I would look for housing on Saturday, I would try to find housing on Saturday or Sunday and then I would move in Monday morning because usually my classes were afternoon classes. So you would move every weekend, Is that what you're? Saying no, I would move from Northern Virginia, where I lived, at home to work, to go back to school over the weekend, and then I would start school on Monday or usually like Wednesday. But you would do this every weekend, no? I would do it once a year. When the job was over, I was like, what do you oh, when it was over the way you were saying it?

21:26 Yeah, the way. The job was. When the summer job was coming to an end and the the reason I was saying this is 'cause I had to work the 20 weeks or 18 weeks to get enough money. There we go. Survive. There's the explanation I. Goes and he whacked us like 3 weeks early. Blind's not. And he didn't. And he didn't. And it was sort of like, you know, working fast enough. And you're like, what? What do you mean? You never even told us anything at all. Seems like a common thread. Yeah, seems like a common thread. Mentioning that, well, The thing is, is that they had a contract with the government that if they had too much worker turnover that they got extensions on the job. It's always something. So it wasn't the worker. So that's why he kept hiring people and I kept wondering why he just kept firing people. Like, you know, he would bring in new new work crews all the time and they would last 6 to 8 weeks and then you get rid of them for whatever reason and then they would get shitty. Well, he did that to us.

22:21 We took everything that we could possibly find and we buried it under the pier pad that was being laid the next day. You know, like the, like the the concrete where it's poured. The. Pad and we the transit. I mean, freaking everything. I wonder if statute of limitations has gone out on that. But we were so angry about it. You know, we broke. We broke all the shovels, all the handles. Of all the shovels, oh, because you guys got fired early. Is that why? Yeah, they fired us. And The thing is, is I think Klaus was his name. He was going back to school too, and we were counting on that money, those last three weeks and he can't go get a job for three weeks, I mean. No. Yeah, So payback's a bitch. So we, we did what I'd seen done over and over and over. We and then they came back the next day and there was there was no equipment to do any work and they looked for it for about half the day and they I wonder.

23:18 If there's a story about. Somewhere and they couldn't find it somebody. 'S still telling about that other than you know. They couldn't find it. Gosh and it. Was gotta be a story in that, yeah. Well, and then they. Had to go out and they were like they didn't know what was there and what wasn't because they didn't have. It wasn't really well organized. It was usually always in the back of the trucks. It was nothing in the trucks anymore. It's like, what do we need? Well, we need shovels. Well, how many do we need? Well, we need Rakes. We need this. We need to transit. We need this. I mean we need levels. Nobody has levels. What the hell? What? Where is everything, you know and you don't know what you need. Well, I mean, it's like the every homeowner is goes to do a little project and they start and they're like, oh, I need a hammer, a nail and a drill.

24:00 And it's like, well, I need these screws. Well, I need drill bits well, and each time you need something else. And that's what they were finding out. It was a couple days, 'cause I had somebody that was still working there that was laughing, 'cause he said, yeah, we pretty much got the day off. We kind of screwed off the whole day doing nothing. Looking around for stuff that you guys buried, you know, it's like, well, I mean. But they never came back and prosecuted anybody. There wasn't any. There wasn't any proof. You know, and I would deny this. This is just a story, so. You know, Yeah. It's just a story. I didn't. Yeah. I mean. You know, we all do things, but it was like it it it was a one, it was another one of those things that you learn from from you. You you see what happens when senior management comes to you. And that taught me when I started companies to treat the people at the bottom as good or better as the people that I treated across the desk.

24:50 For me. Always. Never and and like you learn and I just said The thing is I always did that I always treated people that way but when it but when you did it the other way and you did it back I I was not a I'm not someone that you want to you want to treat unfairly is what I would say no and and and when I see that you treat other people unfairly that's actually worse. Exactly 'cause. I feel like I can take it, but when people treat other subordinates horribly. Something about justice, I think. Yeah, I I don't know what that is, but that that justice thing always. I've always had that as well. The sense of unfairness, I think well.

25:32 What did you, I mean your what was your job? My job. Well, it's funny, 'cause I don't think you were ever a teenager if you didn't work at a pizza place. I worked at a pizza place when I was 1819 called. It was a small pizza joint. It's called Papa John's. Yeah, that. That's a really tiny one, isn't it? I didn't hear that. It's microscopic. And that was actually a fun time. That was a good time. It was easing. It's incredibly easy. Learned a lot about different people's experiences and worked there with a couple of people that I knew from elementary school and then later like saw eight. I guess it was what, 10 years after that. So that was really cool to see all these people grown up. And I had a great time there, delivered a lot of pizzas. I remember there was a guy there that could just pick up the the pizza pan from the oven with just his bare hand. I remember seeing that and he'll just pick it up and look at you and he was crazy.

26:24 It's a crazy man. What is that? That's like 1000°. It's got to be 900 to 1000°. And I remember seeing him do that a bunch. And then there's a couple other people, a couple other delivery drivers that were just hilarious old men there in like their 70s, talking to one who was from a rock, who was a doctor, and then he was a delivery driver then. Wow, were you fitting? Sad. It was very, very sad. You were delivering in McClain, which was one of the richest zip codes anywhere. How did that affect you? I mean, were you getting $1,000,000 tips? Or what I mean, I noticed you didn't. Say how it works for high. School. I think tips are worse from people that have never experienced a a blue collar job like that.

27:06 Or maybe they have this sense of yo, I earned it so you need to earn it too. I don't know, but I remember $300.00 orders and getting tipped like $0.50 to like round down like the dollar and it's just like, wow, wow, I don't know. It's it's something, there's something about it. There's something about the disrespect that delivery drivers get, which I think is I have some animosity. What about the one? Was it Instagram? What? What do you you? Called me when somebody delivered a pizza to our house. Yeah, I did. I did. What was that? Oh yeah. I remember there was a group chat on Snapchat, I think, at the time, and my my friend said, oh, I got a $20 tip and I was like, oh, what was the house?

27:50 And it was our house, yeah. And I thought that was, that was great. Yeah. Yeah. Well, I just The thing is I remembered that you used to talk about how people, how shittily people. They stiff you all the. Time. And I'm going like, well, I'm gonna make this guy's day. And no, exactly. Yeah, and he just like he tried to give it back to me. Yeah. Which I thought was funny. I thought that was so like well this is you sure This seems like this is you sure I was. Like, it almost feels wrong, right? You know, I think it yeah. Because you're you're never treated like a human being. And when you're treated like a human being, you're surprised. You don't know how to deal with it. Yeah, know that it's true. Always overkill, but whatever, you know and and I'm that kind of person that I'm always doing things. Sometimes a little too much.

28:35 But hey, that's one of my many weaknesses. Well, yes, I think that all people should be treated as humans in their in their job. I think about all that. Of the job, I mean. I talked about asphalt. I talked about, oh, concrete. That was physically crazy. Hardest I've ever had. Probably best physical shape I was ever in. Those one were pouring foundations for houses well. Yeah, we did. We did houses. We did a community called Montclair. We did a lot of the house, the walls there. Let's see. Somebody that lived there actually. And we did Burke, we did a a a number of little developments within Burke. We did a number of I think a few in Springfield. But I was a footer foreman and I for about. I did it for about two years.

29:29 You know, I did it for a summer and the money was incredible. I mean, the money was incredible, but the work was you got there at six and you worked 6:00 to 6:00 Monday through Friday, and Saturday was a short day. So if you got off by three, you'd you'd usually get out by 2:30 or 3:00. And it was just like, wow. And then I had a part time job on Sunday. I worked as a gardener, of all things. Oh yeah, yeah, I was working. Seven days a week. And then that's when I got the DWI and I remember going in front of the guy and he said you gotta you, you, you, you gotta tell us when you're not working. I said well I work Monday through Saturday here that works Sunday here and he goes, no, no, you got to, you got to give us a day you can't worry going to say that you're not going to be working.

30:09 I said but, but I got two jobs and I'm working all the time and he goes take a day. And I said OK Sunday, you know, I drove anyway, but I never got caught, so I didn't care. It was like, yeah, I was like, well, I was like 6 months of 'cause I was stupid, you know, I mean you, you, you when you drive hammered you it. It isn't about the risk to yourself. I mean, I mean the general. I can never, I can never say it's good. It's like it was about the. Risk. It's a terrible thing. It's other people, you know? I would hurt people and I. And to this day, I gotta say, I'm the luckiest man in the world. I mean, we should do an episode on the on the stupid things that you do when you're hammered. That might be next episode that sounds like. I mean, yeah.

30:52 That's a little revealing and a little scary. And I mean the stories, you know, the Georgetown Bridge story, the the phone book story, the Oh my God, they go on and on and. On we'll censor. We'll censor some of those stories. That story I did. Before I went out I I did my SA TS. I mean before then, I mean the night before Oh my gosh. I remember I was trying to put my keys into the dash and I was panging them on the dash and they were the the keyhole was on the column of the thing and a buddy walks up and goes you you can't drive. And I was like and then he goes move over and he moved over and he drove me home. Saved your life, yeah.

31:35 I mean, he drove me home and it was like 20 miles. He drove me to my house but he needed a ride. But then he ended up walking from my house to his house and he put the keys on on the thing. So the next morning at like 7:00, so I had to go take. I was taking SAT's 'cause I want to get in school and I busted 1000, so. Wow, that's shocking. I was. I was just like the most hungover rat and I still busted 1000. And this is what? Yeah. Well on that note, I think that we're gonna close out here. We're we're coming up on our time and as always thank you for listening and I hope that you've been enjoying our consistency this year more so than last. We're getting we're getting better, we're getting better at it, I think and hopefully my mic didn't got here, my headphones went quiet, but I might have gone to my computer microphone.

32:25 Let's hope not. But otherwise, do you have any final words to say to close this out here? I would say leave comments and Zach will give you $5 via Venmo. $5 per comment and that's. With a maximum of 235551 per person. One per person. All right, everybody, we're. Going to pay for it, man. We'll see you next week on a record of my. Father and we've invited Joe Rogan, but he doesn't seem to want to show up. One day he will. Yeah, he.