Donkeys

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Welcome back to another episode
of A Record of My Father.

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Today we're talking about these
donkeys that I got a photo of

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Mikey and Macky.
I did not know that donkeys

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could smile.
I did not know that.

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Did you see them smiling?
Come on, the thumbnail is what

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you listeners out there should
be listening to.

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Really looking at, not looking
at, and you should be listening

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to this, but looking at that.
Yeah.

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Why were they smiling?
They looked really happy.

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Did you see the ears?
You see the ears on them.

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Yeah, I know when their ears are
straight up that they're happy,

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and when they're back they're
like nervous and worried.

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Exactly.
And they are donkeys, right?

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They're little tiny ones.
Mule.

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What?
Is it a mule or is it a donkey?

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Donkey mule is a cross.
It's that's the horse and

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something and a Jackass.
And that's what makes a mule.

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I think it's a mule.
And because I rode one, I rode

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one a long time ago.
It was really like, I can

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remember that as a child.
I was 11 or 12 I think when I

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threw, rode one down in the
country and the mule was very

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dominant.
And I got up on the mule and I'm

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walking on the on the street
with it and it just stops and

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goes like, Nah, fuck off, I'm
not going to do anything.

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And he reaches around, he's
trying to bite me in the leg and

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I didn't know how to get it.
And I'm like, so I'm trying to

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get off the mule and he won't
let me get off 'cause each time

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I try to get off, he reaches
around to bite me.

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And and then I yell back to the
house, 'cause it's my, I guess,

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great uncle.
And I don't really know the

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relationship they had with my
mother, but we would go down

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there and visit down in mouth of
Wilson of all places, Virginia,

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way, way in the sticks.
You know, they had a wooden

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stove that they cooked food on.
You know, the whole house was

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heated with wooden, you know,
nothing very, very different

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farm raised tobacco, cows and
things like that.

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Everything was made there.
But anyway, the donkey, he he'd

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gotten a donkey given to him
because the somebody didn't want

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it, because it was a honoree.
And, and so he we happen to

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visit and he's like, you can
ride the donkey.

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And there was an older kid there
that was jumping over the fence

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with the donkey, and we thought
it was cool, so we rode it.

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And then the donkey was like,
no, I don't like you.

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So the guy comes running down
the street to me.

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And he goes, yeah, he's really
mean to people that don't know

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how to treat him.
And he yells at the donkey.

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And then he says, let him get
off.

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And then the donkey just stays
there.

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And I get off and then he gets
on and the donkey just takes him

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back.
And I'm sitting in the street

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and I got to walk back.
It was.

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It was.
It was just.

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Sounds like a fever dream.
This doesn't even sound real.

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No, it's true.
Through my brother Seth wrote

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them.
You can verify that fact.

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Story I've ever heard so strange
when you.

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Started by talking to that's
that's a mule 'cause it's bigger

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and also I don't think mules can
reproduce, I think that they're.

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No, they're sterile.
Yeah, they are sterile.

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But donkeys, the little tiny
guys that carry all the weight

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and everything.
And it's like we, we support a

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charity that that got donkeys
that they're going to live on

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site and we, you know, help pay
for the defer the cost of, you

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know, all the stuff that goes
into making a donkey on site for

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children that have been abused.
It's child help.

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It's a big thing.
We've done it for years and

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years and years.
But the donkeys is was a new

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idea.
And it's like, wow, this is

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something that the kids love
because it's small, it's easy.

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They had a barn and it it it, it
gives the children an

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interaction with an animal that
they can take care of and ride.

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And it's a little more than just
a Kitty cat or a doggy.

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Doggies are much more difficult
because the kids are more.

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I mean, lots have major issues.
So donkeys are, it's easier

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thing to, I mean easier animal
to control.

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And also like from three until
like 10 or 11, which or 12

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probably till they age out, they
can ride the donkey.

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So there's a, you know, you take
them for a walk, walk around the

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park, 'cause I remember when I
was a little kid, they had one

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of the, they had those donkeys
tied to like the turn around.

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Of the post, yeah.
Yeah, 4 little kids on them and

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they go around in a circle and
you get your little walk around.

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And then I remember when I was
like, I think I was in first

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grade and we bought, I had a
nickel and we bought these

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tickets for a raffle and I won a
raffle and it was a donkey.

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And it was a donkey that was
like half the size of me.

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And I had that donkey till I was
like 20, you know?

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I wrote that I'm really talking
to me.

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About big giant Love that
donkey.

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I don't know why, because it's
something that I had that nobody

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else had.
It was big and it was neat and

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it was a, you know, it was a
plush animal and it it probably

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was about 2 1/2 three feet tall.
You could sit on it and I could

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sit on it and pretend I was
riding a horse or something, you

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know?
They had plush animals back

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then.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

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Really.
I don't.

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Know plush plush.
It wasn't like like you're you.

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See the plushies?
Now that's what they call them.

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I don't think they're all that.
Soft it was, but it was softer

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than anything that I had ever
had.

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And we didn't have stuffed
animals.

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We didn't have anything like
that.

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There was no this is one of
those things that came along.

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It's like when you're a little
kid and you'd love that, that

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furry feel.
That was a possession that you

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could have when you had nothing.
Yeah.

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And.
And.

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That was a big deal.
But the cool thing is, is it did

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not appeal to older brothers and
sisters, you know, 'cause if you

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win something like, hey, if I'd
gotten a handgun, my brother

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would have taken in an hour.
You got a.

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Switchblade.
Yeah, that's mine, asshole.

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I'm taking that too, yeah.
The wonderfulness of having

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brothers.
Oh man, I really missed out on

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that, didn't I?
Yeah, you learned how to get

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your ass kicked.
Well, I learned how to do that

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at school anyway.
I mean, that was kind of that

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was self.
Taught you.

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You were doing.
You were, you were sadly doing

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well.
I don't know.

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Sadly you were.
You were more beaten.

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And I, I made the wrong thing
when I told you and I said no,

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no, when, when, if someone
starts something, don't push

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them.
Don't do it.

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Hit him in the face.
So one of the amazing.

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Greatest advice you ever give a
5 year old you dumb ass.

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You learn.
I remember they're about 5

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office meetings later, probably
2020 office.

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I got so many trouble for that
over and over and over, 'cause

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you get into an argument with
somebody and they would do like

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what most people do when they're
younger is they push you and

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say, yeah, you, what are you
going to do?

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What are you going to do?
And Wham, you would lay them out

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and, and when people were
messing with you, you did not

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like, like if you don't know
anything about fighting, most

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people throw you down or try to
throw you down on the ground or

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grab you and not to hold you and
then throw you down or

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something.
You never did that.

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You never did that.
You always went straight for the

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head, punch him in the face, you
know, And I mean, I saw you beat

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up three people at one time
while they were all around you.

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And I was just like, and I was
running toward you, not for your

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benefit for theirs, because one
would get up and run at you and

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you'd Wham hit him and he'd fall
down.

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And then another one.
Cause but it, it, I mean, they

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started it.
You beat the hell out of them

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and and then I had to save them.
And then you looked at me and

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you were all upset and and you
were apologizing and I was like,

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yeah, sure, you you shouldn't
beat up those three guys that

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were picking on you.
That's wrong.

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Very bad.
Very bad to stand up for

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yourself.
I think that is something in

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adolescent teaching that we've
gotten away from is standing up

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for yourself.
I don't know.

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I feel like there's such a
cognitive dissonance between

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parents and their children now.
Well, it's weird.

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I don't know you.
You were.

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You were very control of your
space and you from and, and, and

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when someone bumped into you,
you thought they did it on

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purpose.
You were very like everybody did

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things purposefully when in
reality, most kids in 1st and

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2nd grade couldn't control how
they walked.

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I sat there.
I mean, I remember going to

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lunch 'cause I did.
I went for your first grade

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through like 4th or 5th or 6th,
something like that grade.

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I would see every Friday for
lunch.

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I would go there and I would see
the kids in line and like first

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grade, it would be like an
accordion where they just come

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up and the teacher goes stop and
was like, you know, kids were

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looking in different directions
and they just kept walking and

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banging into each other. 567 And
then I'm thinking like, wow,

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Zach doesn't.
Then he and then you would turn

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around and and punch the guy
behind you for banging into you.

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And he was just like, why did he
hit me?

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I don't know.
I don't know why he hit me.

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I don't think people can still
walk in a straight line I.

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Think no, no, no, I mean I.
Especially when they're in a

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bars.
But I thought that it was so

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interesting to see like what
people were.

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And there were people that did
reacted exactly the same you

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did, turned around and pushed
them.

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And then there were the ones
that were like, it just rolled

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off their back.
They just like, look, hey, stop

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it.
You know, Miss Johnson, he

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pushed me and she's like, yes,
Donnie, we know he pushed too.

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Everybody pushed everybody when
I said stop, you know, because

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you're all in the line.
It's just like to watch that and

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see that was just sort of, oh,
that's why I just, you know.

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Man, I feel like people are
getting away from wanting to be

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teachers still.
I don't know.

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Oh yeah, the the money.
Seems like a lot of people are

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not doing it a little.
Higher when you get right out of

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school, but it doesn't rise from
there so the money is crappy you

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get.
Benefits though, don't you?

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You get some sort of benefits.
You have to be in for a certain

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time to get a pension.
Some get I, I don't know if

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they're all defined benefit or
defined, which means you get a

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set amount when you retire as
opposed to defined

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contributions.
Like if you put money in, it's

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going to earn and you're going
to get it back.

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That's your 4O1K.
That's when that's the defined

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contribution.
That's if you put in a certain

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amount, you get a certain amount
back.

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The defined benefit is you will
get 80% of whatever your highest

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salary was when you retire.
And that's a very expensive plan

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because it's very hard to
guesstimate be how long you'll

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live after the fact.
And people who are living too

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long, we need to kill more of
them.

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But that's another that's
another podcast on why people

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need to die earlier.
But the.

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Well, I think people need to die
earlier now I don't know the

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whole.
Teacher thing is like it seems

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so weird that parents in
particular are either incredibly

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underrepresented or incredibly
overrepresented at well, or

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maybe maybe it's just my own
particular thing.

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It's just like, I remember your
third grade teacher.

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What was Patterson and he's the
guy Came from the poor schools

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in Southern Maryland.
I forgot what the names were.

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Oh, like Prince William County
or something?

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No, no, that's Virginia.
Montgomery County.

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Montgomery County.
No Montgomery County's rich PG,

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Probably.
Oh, there we go, PG.

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Montgomery County, when I had a
parents night there, no one

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showed up.
Maybe one, maybe and then but

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but at McLane, over here at
where the hell did it go?

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Churchill Rd.
That elementary school when you

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had a parent teacher like, you
know, the at the beginning of

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the year, there were not enough
seats in the classroom for the

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parents because the mother and
the father would come and most

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of them were 50% were divorced.
They bought the other person.

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They were always.
That's such a good point.

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So yeah, I kind of forgot about
that.

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People representing each kid in
the class and they were all

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shooting questions at the
teacher and it was 3 hours of

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intensity and they would do
these detailed PowerPoints of

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what they're going to do.
And I'm like, you know, I just

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want them to learn the ABC's and
not kill anybody and learn how

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to, you know, hit fewer people.
I do remember back to school

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night was something out of out
of the ordinary.

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And if you didn't show up for
your kid, you looked like you

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were, I mean.
They had grandparents.

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It was just like crazy.
But with that becomes people

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that want to tell you how to run
your class because we live in a

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in a fluent neighborhood where
you have people that both people

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are highly educated and usually
have high-powered jobs.

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And if one retire one, I mean, I
saw it a lot there because I was

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sort of the room mother person
for years because I was lucky

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enough to be able to retire.
But a lot of the moms in

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particular all went and got
master's degrees, all became

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lawyers or something like that.
And then when they had a kid,

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they, they retired.
But they're, they're still like

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super aggressive, super smart,
you know, So they're there,

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they're much, they're much more
educated probably than the

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teacher.
And so they're all pushing for

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plans for little Johnny to be a
rocket scientist by the time

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he's.
Seven, I'll ask you a question.

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Do you think the invention of
the helicopter mom was in the

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early 2000s, or do you think it
existed prior to that?

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I think that we thought that
there was, there was through the

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70s and 80s, there was a lot
more and end of the 90s, I would

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say there was a lot more.
Bring your parents and make your

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parents part of the solution.
Make them, bring them in, bring

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them in, bring them in, bring
them in.

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And so then people started to
realize, you know, the more I

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know about little Johnny and,
and people cared, you know, and

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I, and I think it's real.
It's really kind of weird

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because when we were growing up,
kids would be seen but not hurt,

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you know, they would, they
would, you know, it's very it's

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a very different time when I
think in all through the 80s and

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stuff like that.
Even when I got married, 90 and

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when all of when all of the
people started popping off, we

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popped off.
You popped off around 99, right?

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Yeah.
When people started having kids

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in the 90s after we got married,
we, we had a a number of friends

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that, you know, one by one they
start spawning.

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Well, the kids were the center
of all attention.

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You're just talking about in the
late 90s.

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Yeah, I would say mid to late
90s, they were the absolute

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center.
They were the new boy that you

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would come over and have parties
and have a drink of wine and

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little Johnny would sit in the
middle of the room and you would

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all have your babies all sit
there and how wonderful they

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are.
And they'll do a dance world.

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Yeah, yeah.
And.

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And some choreographed.
Things as opposed to, you know,

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when I was growing up, they
would, they wouldn't bring the

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kids, they'd leave them at home
unattended and just go get

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hammered at somebody else's
house.

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That is interesting too, because
if you think about.

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The kids were not there and if
the kids came, the kids were

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like get out of the.
House well, it's like a pet

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mentality.
That's what it is.

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It's a it's a pet mentality
almost.

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It's like, look what he can do,
right?

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Look what exactly Johnny can.
Recite your alphabet now.

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Johnny's like 1 1/2.
Well, I remember mom was talking

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to somebody at some point and
she, this woman was talking

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about what her son could do or
something.

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And then, and then mom was
talking to her and she's like,

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well, he knows all his, what was
it like his construction

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machines or his heavy machinery?
And I like ripped off like 40-5

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different like like bulldozer
kinds of genres of bulldozer.

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You know, it's, it's, it's, it's
what you're exposed to.

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And you know, and you were very
interested in mechanical stuff

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and how it worked and you wanted
to build things even though you

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didn't really know what you
wanted to build And you know how

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to build it.
But you want to get a spring and

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you want to get a chain and you
wanted to get it a nail.

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And it's like, what the hell?
Is that I think we're 4 episodes

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deep on the spring story here.
OK, Like we're 4 episodes.

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Deep.
I love that.

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I just love that it just keeps
going.

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Well, you know what I want to
build?

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I want to build a robot donkey.
Now after that photo, Yeah, I

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want to build WE.
Started out with donkeys and

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here we are talking about the
education system in America.

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Yeah, you keep, you keep
derailing me.

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You derail me every episode.
And that's the job of.

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Well, think about when you think
about donkeys, I think about the

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wonderfulness and you know, it's
just they're, they're they're

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not going to hurt the kids.
They're they're there's an

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older.
One, well, they tried.

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One tried to bite you.
I mean, you can't say.

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And it's like 8 feet tall.
And when I got on it, it was,

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you know, it was a big one, you
know, But I've had, I've had bad

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interactions with riding horses
and stuff like that.

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Oh, that's when a horse and A
and a donkey.

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And they just stop and they're
like, Nah, I'm not, Nah, I'm

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not, I'm not riding you anymore.
They are really stubborn.

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I I have heard that they are
really stubborn.

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You have to show them who is in
control.

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You cannot, you cannot negotiate
with a horse or a donkey.

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You have to show them and you
have to convince them.

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And the way I've seen people do
it is they're mean, you know, I

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mean, I saw people, the horse,
the donkey just was sitting

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there and just stopped.
And I remember I was riding it.

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I was riding the horse and he
and he and he and he's running

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and we're both running side by
side because we went out riding

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and my horse just goes left and
I'm pulling the bridle right to

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go right.
The horse goes towards the tree

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with low branches and drops his
head.

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He tries to freaking scare me on
the and I'm like ripping it on

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the other side.
My best man in my wedding

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deepest runs up, runs over
beside me, jumps off, jumps off

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his horse, does the little over
the top, you know, Mr. Cowboy

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guy jumps off, runs over to the
horse, grabs the horse by the

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bridle, you know, in the front,
starts pulling it and starts

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cussing at the horse.
It is the most comical scene.

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He's tapping it on the nose
saying listen, you peace.

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You know, you stop that you're
not in charge.

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I am in charge.
I will make you Alpo by the end

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of the day.
And he's just yelling at and I'm

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he just just man, the horse just
looks down.

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It's just like, OK, I'm sorry.
And then we had no problem after

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that.
It was like he just he just

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totally brutally just screamed
at the horse like he was going

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to kill him and eat him and chop
him up and just so loud and so.

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And I was just like, I was
embarrassed for the horse.

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I felt bad, but but the horse
was trying to knock me off

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because, you know, it could and
I wasn't, I wasn't being strong

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enough when I, and evidently, I
mean, I thought I was pulling

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back.
I was, I thought I was ripping

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his mouth out because I had the
range like that to go right.

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And he said no, we're going left
because I can knock you off

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there, but I can't do anything
right.

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Because Wright was onto the
trail, but he didn't care,

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didn't care at all.
But I'd seen this happen a

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number of times with me and
horses because I think they

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sense that I'm a pushover, so
they're like, I can do whatever

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I want.
You know, it seems weakness,

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yeah.
You're you're heavy, so get off.

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Or maybe not weakness, but a
kind soul.

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And they're like, you know what?
Yeah, yeah.

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Kind of time you can push
around.

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I'm breaking out a horse prison
today.

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Yep, I'm breaking out a loser.
I got a loser on my back.

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I'm out.
I'm leaving, dude.

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I'm jail breaking out of here.
Oh, you know, Speaking of.

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Well, they had, they had a can
of, I don't know if you ever

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seen Alpo with horse meat.
It's a dog food.

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No.
And it says Alpo with real horse

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meat.
They had cut that label and it

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was in the barn, over the barn.
That's great.

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Yeah.
We show them that every day just

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in case they want to get out of
line, you know?

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What did I watch recently?
I watched a documentary about a

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pet sematary made in 1977, and
it was really, it was really,

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really good.
Bill Hader did a interview with

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the filmmaker.
Can't remember his name, but it

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was fantastic.
But there's this clip too.

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There's Like the other Side,
because in the 70s, mid 70s,

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there was rendering factories as
well.

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And this rendering factor owner
basically is like, you know,

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there's an elephant that died
over there and everybody

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wondered where it went, but then
they never questioned the

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rendering factory, you know, And
it's like there's a bunch of

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people.
He's like much people quit

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because they couldn't stand the
idea of what was happening

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behind those doors, even though
they've never seen it.

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I don't understand it.
I just don't get it.

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This guy was hilarious.
Oh my God, this is a man.

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This is a real guy that owns a
rendering factory.

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And then bring factory next to a
pet cemetery.

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No, it was like 2 kind of
counter things, like one guy was

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trying to build a pet cemetery
and it wasn't profitable, right.

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And then they had to shut it
down.

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And he's like, I gave up on my
dream.

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This has been my dream since I
was a kid.

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I have always wanted to own a
pet cemetery.

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Like, that's kind of odd.
But the running Pig.

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Yeah, in a way.
In a way.

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I wrote the book we'll link
that.

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That was really, really good.
I really enjoyed that

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documentary here.
I actually have the the title

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here coming up shortly, but I
also Speaking of horse prisons,

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right?
Speaking of horse prisons, I

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went to Alcatraz the other day.
That was crazy.

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And you?
Went there.

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No, there were not but the.
Donkeys.

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No, there weren't.
Have you ever ridden a donkey?

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I remember riding something
about 5 feet and then they said

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that's the end of the horse ride
and we were about to get into

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the woods.
I had no idea where that was.

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That was then when we were when
we went across Wyoming, remember

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we stopped and they had their,
they're going to have their

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little ride.
And instead of going into the

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woods, they're like, oh, we're
going to do a horse ride or a

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donkey ride or whatever the heck
it was.

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We all got on the horses.
We ride out to the street.

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We do once around the little
square pasture and then they're

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like, that's it.
And they take us back.

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And I'm like, and that was like
20 bucks and you're like,

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really, really.
We didn't even go up into the

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that was no, we were going up
into the woods and that up into

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the mountains.
And we ended up walking up in

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the mountains later and it was
oh, beautiful sky.

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Where where was that?
That was in South Dakota.

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That was Jackson Hole right this
side.

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It was this it was between
Jackson Hole and is Sonic City,

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which is the head of South
Dakota because we landed there.

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OK, here here's we drove across
the whole state and we stayed in

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a, a, a, a ranch somewhere and
that's where that's where I

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remember you riding a horse and
it was so ridiculously short the

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amount of time this.
Was actually, I remember this,

446
00:23:14,640 --> 00:23:17,280
even younger.
I was even younger than that

447
00:23:17,640 --> 00:23:21,160
then because I was 12, No 9
there.

448
00:23:21,160 --> 00:23:23,480
I think I was about 7 when I
remember this.

449
00:23:23,680 --> 00:23:26,840
The documentary, for those
interested is Gates of Heaven,

450
00:23:27,480 --> 00:23:32,000
directed by Errol Morris.
Really funny documentary.

451
00:23:32,040 --> 00:23:36,200
It's very.
We rode an elephant at the Where

452
00:23:36,200 --> 00:23:40,080
was that?
Where do we ride out?

453
00:23:40,120 --> 00:23:42,440
Oh.
No, we rode the elephant you

454
00:23:42,440 --> 00:23:44,560
rode.
We've only rode once, right?

455
00:23:45,160 --> 00:23:47,120
I've never rode it.
Have I ridden 1?

456
00:23:47,680 --> 00:23:50,320
Yeah, yeah.
You rode one at Renaissance

457
00:23:50,320 --> 00:23:51,680
Festival.
Remember they had an elephant

458
00:23:51,680 --> 00:23:53,160
there.
No way, really.

459
00:23:53,240 --> 00:23:55,160
We got the devil horns.
You remember the devil horns

460
00:23:55,160 --> 00:23:56,720
that we got that you tie on the
top of your head?

461
00:23:56,800 --> 00:23:59,880
Well, you and I were having axe
fights and people were and you

462
00:24:00,040 --> 00:24:04,400
mother was screaming at me.
I bought you a shield, the devil

463
00:24:04,400 --> 00:24:06,520
horns and.
A Oh, I remember the.

464
00:24:06,520 --> 00:24:08,920
Shield You had a sword and I had
an axe and I had.

465
00:24:08,920 --> 00:24:11,080
A shield and you had a purple
sword too.

466
00:24:11,080 --> 00:24:12,240
You remember the purple sword,
huh?

467
00:24:12,680 --> 00:24:14,280
We were just the one with the
purple handle.

468
00:24:15,120 --> 00:24:18,720
Warring the whole time while we
were there and it would just

469
00:24:18,720 --> 00:24:25,000
break out like every 20 feet and
she would start yelling and and

470
00:24:25,000 --> 00:24:26,480
she would yell at me and I would
stop.

471
00:24:26,480 --> 00:24:28,720
And then you would stop.
And then we'd go 20 more feet

472
00:24:28,720 --> 00:24:31,680
and then you'd hit me with a
stick and you'd laugh.

473
00:24:31,960 --> 00:24:35,360
And so then I would come to hit
you and then she'd turn around

474
00:24:35,520 --> 00:24:43,160
and, and she would yell at me to
grow up and not be like over and

475
00:24:43,160 --> 00:24:46,040
over was horrible, man.
I was just like, man.

476
00:24:46,160 --> 00:24:50,240
And then I would laugh because I
was getting in trouble with your

477
00:24:50,240 --> 00:24:53,480
mother and I didn't know what to
do.

478
00:24:53,480 --> 00:24:55,360
And I was like, you know what?
I'm I.

479
00:24:55,400 --> 00:24:59,640
And so I started doing what you
were doing and we would go 5

480
00:24:59,640 --> 00:25:01,920
feet and you'd get ready to hit
me and I'd hit you first.

481
00:25:03,640 --> 00:25:05,920
Well, I remember too, I used to
try to.

482
00:25:05,920 --> 00:25:11,560
I used to hit you in the hand.
Oh yeah, that was so painful.

483
00:25:11,880 --> 00:25:13,480
I have.
That's why my, when you look at

484
00:25:13,480 --> 00:25:17,360
my, when you look at my fingers,
my pinky finger, Oh my God, it's

485
00:25:17,360 --> 00:25:19,880
crooked to this day, 'cause you
broke it, you broke.

486
00:25:19,880 --> 00:25:22,280
Both of them broke.
Well, that was also the first

487
00:25:22,280 --> 00:25:24,200
time I had a honey roasted
peanuts in my life.

488
00:25:24,640 --> 00:25:28,080
When we watched the jousting,
you remember the jousting and

489
00:25:28,080 --> 00:25:31,280
you guys bought a honey roasted
peanuts and I was like what is

490
00:25:31,280 --> 00:25:32,560
this?
This is phenomenal.

491
00:25:32,680 --> 00:25:35,040
How old was I?
Like 7-6.

492
00:25:36,720 --> 00:25:38,320
Yeah, six to seven, right in
that.

493
00:25:38,360 --> 00:25:41,280
Time Oh my gosh, that's a that's
a hell of a memory what else

494
00:25:41,280 --> 00:25:44,080
happened there maybe 8, maybe 8
you know I.

495
00:25:44,160 --> 00:25:45,720
Remember the elephant thing?
I remember that.

496
00:25:45,720 --> 00:25:47,280
You got the big Turkey leg.
Remember that.

497
00:25:47,600 --> 00:25:50,680
We got that that year.
Yeah, well, one year, I don't

498
00:25:50,680 --> 00:25:51,880
remember which one.
OK, gotcha.

499
00:25:51,920 --> 00:25:54,080
We went a few years.
I want to go this year.

500
00:25:54,080 --> 00:25:56,520
I want to go to another one.
Well, the biggest.

501
00:25:56,520 --> 00:25:59,800
One in the country, the biggest
one in the world, is Texas.

502
00:26:00,560 --> 00:26:02,440
I watched the documentary.
You see the documentary about

503
00:26:02,440 --> 00:26:03,720
that?
I would go there.

504
00:26:03,840 --> 00:26:05,040
I would go there for the
documentary.

505
00:26:05,160 --> 00:26:06,520
I would go to see it.
Does that?

506
00:26:06,520 --> 00:26:08,000
All right, let's go.
Let's do it.

507
00:26:08,080 --> 00:26:10,120
When is it?
Year round I.

508
00:26:11,960 --> 00:26:14,000
Want to go there when there's a
billion people?

509
00:26:14,280 --> 00:26:18,040
Well, I get the surgery in two
weeks, so or 10 days after that,

510
00:26:18,040 --> 00:26:19,000
you know I won't be doing
anything.

511
00:26:19,240 --> 00:26:22,760
They make him fly $40 million a
year in revenue, 40 or 50.

512
00:26:23,280 --> 00:26:24,720
Really crazy.
Yeah, maybe.

513
00:26:24,720 --> 00:26:26,800
I can get a job there.
And it's like a town.

514
00:26:28,080 --> 00:26:30,840
It's like a whole town because
he said he read this book by

515
00:26:30,840 --> 00:26:32,400
Walt Disney.
And Walt Disney said if you're

516
00:26:32,400 --> 00:26:33,920
going to do it right, you're
going to buy your own county,

517
00:26:33,920 --> 00:26:35,040
you're going to get your own
county.

518
00:26:35,440 --> 00:26:37,440
And that way you can control
everything.

519
00:26:37,440 --> 00:26:40,200
Special laws, yeah.
And so that guy basically

520
00:26:40,200 --> 00:26:43,480
started his own county and that
is the Renfair County.

521
00:26:44,000 --> 00:26:46,520
Isn't that interesting?
The documentary was fantastic.

522
00:26:46,960 --> 00:26:48,800
Oh my gosh, I want to take
donkeys.

523
00:26:49,280 --> 00:26:51,440
I hope so, but it's we got to do
it.

524
00:26:51,520 --> 00:26:53,360
We got to do that.
I've been wanting to do that for

525
00:26:53,360 --> 00:26:56,520
a long time.
Yeah, for, for a very long time.

526
00:26:57,080 --> 00:26:59,320
But yeah, the one in what was
it?

527
00:26:59,320 --> 00:27:02,400
Maryland is like the third
biggest in the world or in the.

528
00:27:02,440 --> 00:27:04,280
Yeah, it's in.
It's in the top 10.

529
00:27:04,720 --> 00:27:07,040
Oh, OK, got it.
There's one out here that's year

530
00:27:07,040 --> 00:27:09,120
round too that I've never been.
There's a renaissance one I

531
00:27:09,120 --> 00:27:10,760
think in Scotland that's really
big too.

532
00:27:11,000 --> 00:27:14,560
Whoa, that makes sense.
But it's only like half the size

533
00:27:14,560 --> 00:27:16,920
of the one in Texas.
The one in Texas is like 3

534
00:27:16,920 --> 00:27:19,800
million people and you're.
Like, yeah, it might be the base

535
00:27:19,800 --> 00:27:21,520
in the world.
Can you imagine the war that you

536
00:27:21,520 --> 00:27:23,400
would start there?
We would start a war.

537
00:27:23,400 --> 00:27:24,520
I'd be hitting people and
knuckles.

538
00:27:24,520 --> 00:27:27,320
And all the people that all come
dressed up in our other armor

539
00:27:27,320 --> 00:27:30,120
and everything.
And you know, and then somebody

540
00:27:30,120 --> 00:27:32,720
was telling me about the Night
Games and I'm like, what the

541
00:27:32,720 --> 00:27:34,480
hell is that?
You know, those are, that's a

542
00:27:34,480 --> 00:27:36,480
real combat sport.
Now what?

543
00:27:36,720 --> 00:27:39,600
Where they dress up in armor and
hit each other with real swords.

544
00:27:40,000 --> 00:27:42,480
No, it's fake.
No, no, they hit each other. 10.

545
00:27:42,600 --> 00:27:45,720
Or it's a real combat sport.
It's off shoot of MMA now.

546
00:27:45,720 --> 00:27:48,720
Yeah, I'm not even kidding.
They get in the cage and they

547
00:27:48,720 --> 00:27:50,560
try to punch each other until
they're unconscious.

548
00:27:51,080 --> 00:27:53,160
That's crazy.
Oh, very odd.

549
00:27:53,160 --> 00:27:54,760
I'm not going to disagree.
With that, well, I mean, if you

550
00:27:54,760 --> 00:27:57,280
know, if you, if you can be good
at something and you like it and

551
00:27:57,280 --> 00:27:59,440
it's cool and you get to beat
somebody at it and it's like

552
00:27:59,440 --> 00:28:02,640
competitive, hey, have fun, you
know?

553
00:28:02,640 --> 00:28:05,320
Exactly.
Speaking of which, you're.

554
00:28:05,320 --> 00:28:07,160
Wearing, which we have to do.
Or not?

555
00:28:07,280 --> 00:28:08,760
Are you wearing the Iceland hat
right now?

556
00:28:08,760 --> 00:28:10,360
No.
No, I'm doing this.

557
00:28:10,360 --> 00:28:13,080
Is this is Vietnam?
But no, that's the Iceland hat.

558
00:28:13,480 --> 00:28:14,600
Oh, it is.
Yeah, look at it.

559
00:28:14,600 --> 00:28:17,200
OK, it's Iceland.
Iceland, Vietnam, same thing.

560
00:28:17,520 --> 00:28:21,840
I lost the Vietnam one on an
airplane because it was going

561
00:28:21,840 --> 00:28:23,840
through security.
It was on top of my backpack.

562
00:28:23,840 --> 00:28:28,520
It got swept up inside the
magnet thing and it got taken

563
00:28:28,520 --> 00:28:30,280
up.
I don't even know it got stuck

564
00:28:30,280 --> 00:28:31,440
in there.
I think Bob's there right now.

565
00:28:31,440 --> 00:28:32,640
I should probably tell him it
could be a hat.

566
00:28:33,520 --> 00:28:34,560
They should probably get another
one.

567
00:28:34,560 --> 00:28:36,040
This is our trip.
You and I were going to go on

568
00:28:36,040 --> 00:28:40,400
this trip and you and you said
no because you were effeminate.

569
00:28:40,400 --> 00:28:44,240
I don't know where.
Oh, you wanted to do an episode

570
00:28:44,240 --> 00:28:46,800
on donkeys?
So that's what we're working on

571
00:28:46,800 --> 00:28:47,760
right now.
Right.

572
00:28:47,800 --> 00:28:50,000
And so we were accomplishing.
We're about halfway through

573
00:28:50,000 --> 00:28:51,640
that's.
What we're going to do, you

574
00:28:51,640 --> 00:28:53,880
know, as long as you can do
that, everything's fine, right?

575
00:28:54,080 --> 00:28:56,320
Yeah.
Donkeys are what make the world

576
00:28:56,320 --> 00:28:57,960
go round.
I think so.

577
00:28:58,080 --> 00:29:00,560
I haven't seen a good one in a
while and I think the photo

578
00:29:00,560 --> 00:29:03,560
really resonated with me.
Well, they, I mean, they got rid

579
00:29:03,560 --> 00:29:06,880
of like animals it carnivals and
things like that.

580
00:29:07,160 --> 00:29:08,640
Yeah.
I mean, you look now that you

581
00:29:08,640 --> 00:29:13,080
would see donkeys and elephants
and lions and, you know, copy

582
00:29:13,080 --> 00:29:15,960
Bara, the biggest rat in the
world, They would have that come

583
00:29:15,960 --> 00:29:17,360
soon.
The biggest rat in the world was

584
00:29:17,360 --> 00:29:20,240
the copy Bara.
But you would see these like

585
00:29:20,920 --> 00:29:23,800
Clyde Beatty Circus, Ringling
Brothers, Barnum, and they would

586
00:29:23,800 --> 00:29:26,960
all have these animals.
But it turns out that they were

587
00:29:26,960 --> 00:29:30,680
torturing the animals and they
were horrible to the animals and

588
00:29:30,680 --> 00:29:32,880
they would die in a, you know,
like SeaWorld where they're

589
00:29:33,240 --> 00:29:37,560
where they're, where they're
killing whales annually.

590
00:29:38,000 --> 00:29:41,240
And you know, the killer whales
are being killed and they put

591
00:29:41,240 --> 00:29:42,880
them in small tanks and all that
kind of stuff.

592
00:29:42,880 --> 00:29:44,920
And they're sad and they're, and
their things go aside.

593
00:29:45,280 --> 00:29:50,280
And so you don't see animals
being exploited in that manner.

594
00:29:50,680 --> 00:29:53,640
You see it overseas.
Like when we were in we in

595
00:29:53,640 --> 00:29:55,840
Vietnam and they were selling
the elephant rides.

596
00:29:56,360 --> 00:29:58,640
And we found them buying Apple.
We couldn't get it.

597
00:29:58,640 --> 00:30:00,200
What?
We fed them pineapple.

598
00:30:00,320 --> 00:30:02,480
Yeah, we paid for the pineapple
to feed the elephant, but we

599
00:30:02,480 --> 00:30:05,480
would not ride them because,
well, your mother guilted us

600
00:30:05,480 --> 00:30:06,480
probably for the most.
Part.

601
00:30:06,480 --> 00:30:09,560
Well, once she pointed out that
the elephant was crying, I was

602
00:30:09,560 --> 00:30:12,160
kinda against it.
Yeah, yeah, that was sad.

603
00:30:12,280 --> 00:30:14,400
That was it.
And then while everybody else

604
00:30:14,400 --> 00:30:17,640
was doing that, we got to climb
the we climbed that Spire.

605
00:30:17,800 --> 00:30:19,280
Yeah, they all rode the
elephant.

606
00:30:19,280 --> 00:30:22,760
They said we don't have enough
time to go to one of the wonders

607
00:30:22,760 --> 00:30:24,560
in the world.
And I said, well, I'm never

608
00:30:24,560 --> 00:30:27,600
using this company ever again.
We came all the way to the other

609
00:30:27,600 --> 00:30:31,640
side of the world and they're
like, here you are right in what

610
00:30:31,640 --> 00:30:36,720
is it Angor what Angor what And
we weren't supposed to allowed

611
00:30:36,720 --> 00:30:39,480
or supposed to go to the top of
this one the.

612
00:30:39,520 --> 00:30:42,080
Tallest.
That was the dumbest thing in

613
00:30:42,080 --> 00:30:43,840
the world.
But we went anyway.

614
00:30:44,080 --> 00:30:46,320
Because if you think about it,
they're and you're looking at 30

615
00:30:46,360 --> 00:30:49,840
hours, 30 hours of flying time.
And they're like, well, we got

616
00:30:49,840 --> 00:30:51,600
to go back and I'm like, we
don't have time.

617
00:30:51,600 --> 00:30:53,680
And I was like.
We'll take a cab.

618
00:30:53,960 --> 00:30:57,200
We'll take a cab.
Me and you went up top and we, I

619
00:30:57,200 --> 00:30:59,840
think we still got back before
they did, yeah.

620
00:31:00,000 --> 00:31:01,400
We did.
Because they dawdled and the

621
00:31:01,520 --> 00:31:03,800
and, and you were thinking like
of all the places and things

622
00:31:03,800 --> 00:31:07,800
that you would want to do and
want to see the, IT would be

623
00:31:07,800 --> 00:31:13,840
like going to Vatican City and
not going inside or something

624
00:31:13,840 --> 00:31:16,320
like that.
Going to India, going outside

625
00:31:16,320 --> 00:31:19,040
the Taj Mahal and saying, you
know, I don't need to go in, I'm

626
00:31:19,040 --> 00:31:20,120
good.
It's not worth it.

627
00:31:20,320 --> 00:31:24,360
That it's Well, I actually have
to go eat lunch after this, so

628
00:31:24,360 --> 00:31:25,240
I'm just.
Gonna it really?

629
00:31:25,240 --> 00:31:27,120
It really isn't.
It really isn't worth it, But

630
00:31:27,120 --> 00:31:29,680
that's another story.
Really isn't.

631
00:31:30,200 --> 00:31:32,880
Not it's OK.
Is the outside nicer than the

632
00:31:32,880 --> 00:31:35,400
inside?
Yeah, the outside, the look and

633
00:31:35,400 --> 00:31:39,960
everything is, is just amazing.
And when you go to inside the

634
00:31:39,960 --> 00:31:43,080
wall of the grounds, that's kind
of neat, but they kind of hit

635
00:31:43,080 --> 00:31:45,320
you up to take off your shoes.
You're not allowed to wear shoes

636
00:31:45,320 --> 00:31:46,960
in there.
And they put them in a locker

637
00:31:46,960 --> 00:31:49,120
and they make you give them
money to guard their locker.

638
00:31:49,120 --> 00:31:50,520
Otherwise your shoes will be
gone.

639
00:31:51,280 --> 00:31:58,040
And you can't take pictures
unless you get paid for access

640
00:31:58,040 --> 00:32:01,000
to different points to take
pictures of the Taj Mahal inside

641
00:32:01,000 --> 00:32:03,680
of the walls.
But then you actually go into

642
00:32:03,680 --> 00:32:06,640
like the little mausoleum area
and the little mausoleum areas,

643
00:32:06,680 --> 00:32:09,280
you know, that's where the
Princess or one of them is

644
00:32:09,280 --> 00:32:11,320
buried or something.
And then you go up and around

645
00:32:11,320 --> 00:32:14,880
that and you look out the back
window and you look down, down

646
00:32:14,880 --> 00:32:19,120
the river and you see that.
And that is the gorgeous scene.

647
00:32:19,200 --> 00:32:23,600
I mean, you know, but is my
uncle said before I'd gone

648
00:32:23,600 --> 00:32:26,280
there, he'd been to India and
been to the Taj Mahal.

649
00:32:26,680 --> 00:32:31,560
And he said it's very odd to go
to this thing that it's, you

650
00:32:31,560 --> 00:32:32,880
know, one of the wonders of the
world.

651
00:32:32,880 --> 00:32:34,360
It's beautiful.
It's gorgeous.

652
00:32:34,560 --> 00:32:39,200
You know, they used to have,
like, all sorts of jewels all

653
00:32:39,200 --> 00:32:43,440
around the base, all around the
whole outside wall from 0 all

654
00:32:43,440 --> 00:32:47,160
the way up to 12 feet, just
beautiful stonework and jewels.

655
00:32:47,160 --> 00:32:48,760
All the jewels have been stolen
since then.

656
00:32:49,080 --> 00:32:53,600
But when he went, he said the
thing that bothered him the most

657
00:32:53,600 --> 00:33:02,600
is like, you see just poverty.
That is, it's when I think about

658
00:33:02,720 --> 00:33:06,560
like I've never been to the
Sudan, I've never been to I've

659
00:33:06,560 --> 00:33:12,920
seen poor people in many places
and I've seen oppressed and

660
00:33:12,920 --> 00:33:15,280
things like that.
But I haven't seen people to

661
00:33:15,280 --> 00:33:27,680
that level of huge, huge numbers
of people that it's, it's, it's

662
00:33:28,280 --> 00:33:35,560
a, it's an incredibly tall, hard
task just to get food and water

663
00:33:35,960 --> 00:33:39,080
enough to survive the rest of
today.

664
00:33:39,440 --> 00:33:41,760
When you think about that, I
mean, that's why when I, you

665
00:33:41,760 --> 00:33:44,600
know, people say, Oh, you, you,
you were poor growing up.

666
00:33:44,600 --> 00:33:47,480
And it's like, well, you know, I
mean, I lived indoors.

667
00:33:47,480 --> 00:33:52,960
I mean, so that's, that's one
level.

668
00:33:52,960 --> 00:33:55,280
I always lived indoors for the
most part.

669
00:33:55,280 --> 00:33:57,960
Very rarely do we not have food,
you know, so.

670
00:33:58,200 --> 00:34:01,280
I've seen the videos too of the
the front of it and then they

671
00:34:01,280 --> 00:34:05,400
they turn around and behind or
like I guess they turn around

672
00:34:05,400 --> 00:34:06,880
like from the camera's point of
view.

673
00:34:06,880 --> 00:34:07,760
Yeah.
And it's just.

674
00:34:08,480 --> 00:34:10,480
And then you go like, oh, well,
think about it.

675
00:34:10,480 --> 00:34:12,760
They're all there because they
know wealthy, rich people like

676
00:34:12,760 --> 00:34:17,639
me and anybody that has, you
know, lives indoors comes to see

677
00:34:18,040 --> 00:34:21,120
and they're all asking and
they're all looking for, you

678
00:34:21,120 --> 00:34:26,600
know, money to survive.
And yeah, that was a that just

679
00:34:26,760 --> 00:34:31,800
puts a stone in your stomach and
it makes you think like, you

680
00:34:31,800 --> 00:34:36,040
know, as as humanity, we can do
better.

681
00:34:36,199 --> 00:34:38,880
And I think that's the that's
the thing I think about now when

682
00:34:38,880 --> 00:34:41,199
we have all these.
We're thinking we can do better,

683
00:34:41,199 --> 00:34:43,120
but you're talking about the
infrastructure of a country that

684
00:34:43,120 --> 00:34:45,480
you're not familiar with and
it's what is it?

685
00:34:45,480 --> 00:34:47,920
It's like a like a billion and a
half people or something.

686
00:34:48,760 --> 00:34:53,520
Well, anytime, Anytime I see
somebody that's worth $200

687
00:34:53,520 --> 00:35:03,160
billion and then I see millions
of people starving, I see that

688
00:35:03,280 --> 00:35:08,920
that person of their own
volition can change certain

689
00:35:08,920 --> 00:35:10,720
things.
Have you seen the the

690
00:35:10,720 --> 00:35:12,920
billionaire that lives in Delhi
above everybody?

691
00:35:13,240 --> 00:35:14,520
He's that's who I'm talking
about.

692
00:35:14,520 --> 00:35:15,360
Oh, that's who you're talking
about.

693
00:35:15,360 --> 00:35:17,680
Build.
You build a 40 story house.

694
00:35:18,960 --> 00:35:20,040
House.
Yeah.

695
00:35:20,360 --> 00:35:24,760
House think about that house.
So the top five stories are his.

696
00:35:24,760 --> 00:35:28,720
He's got a pool, he's got he's
got like the staff is on floor

697
00:35:28,720 --> 00:35:31,520
number six and eight.
He's got children that live on

698
00:35:31,520 --> 00:35:36,400
different floors and you're just
thinking like, Oh my God, Oh my

699
00:35:36,400 --> 00:35:39,680
gosh, that's and that's only one
of his homes.

700
00:35:40,480 --> 00:35:44,320
And you think to yourself like,
OK, I, I understand that you can

701
00:35:44,320 --> 00:35:49,120
say that he drives commerce and
stuff, but can we not drive it

702
00:35:49,120 --> 00:35:52,880
into his pocket a little less
than maybe drive it to people's

703
00:35:52,880 --> 00:35:55,680
food bowls a little more?
I mean, why is that so?

704
00:35:55,920 --> 00:35:57,880
Why is that such a?
Horrible thing.

705
00:35:57,880 --> 00:35:59,640
And why is it, you know, when
you think about these things,

706
00:35:59,640 --> 00:36:02,880
it's like, hey, I'm I'm once
again, I'm preaching the whole

707
00:36:05,000 --> 00:36:08,920
help, you know, those with less.
I don't think that that's you

708
00:36:08,920 --> 00:36:10,960
know, and oh, oh, you can.
Oh, Phil, you should give more.

709
00:36:10,960 --> 00:36:12,280
And it's like, yeah, you're
right.

710
00:36:12,320 --> 00:36:16,000
So.
I want to know what he does.

711
00:36:16,200 --> 00:36:18,400
Yeah, I'm curious.
But we have Donkey or his name.

712
00:36:19,520 --> 00:36:23,800
Yeah.
Curious about that.

713
00:36:23,800 --> 00:36:25,320
Yeah.
You know what's funny about

714
00:36:25,320 --> 00:36:28,760
Yosemite is I actually
recognized like one of the

715
00:36:28,760 --> 00:36:29,560
places.
I think we.

716
00:36:29,720 --> 00:36:31,880
Did we stay?
Are you saying Yosemite Sam?

717
00:36:32,680 --> 00:36:39,120
No, the the park and and I think
we stayed actually in in

718
00:36:39,120 --> 00:36:42,440
Yosemite from what I remember.
And the weirdest part too, is it

719
00:36:42,440 --> 00:36:44,840
Yosemite is a lot smaller than
you think it is.

720
00:36:45,360 --> 00:36:47,560
It's a it's a lot smaller than
you think it is.

721
00:36:47,640 --> 00:36:49,800
I was very shocked.
It's like 1 road.

722
00:36:50,920 --> 00:36:53,560
And then during this time too, I
guess there's the other Rd. is

723
00:36:53,560 --> 00:36:55,320
closed for the winter.
It's actually kind of a good

724
00:36:55,320 --> 00:37:00,560
point, but a lot of it is closed
and I'm I'm getting my film back

725
00:37:00,560 --> 00:37:03,280
today, though it's got.
Mukash Ambani is.

726
00:37:03,720 --> 00:37:06,760
That what his name is.
Yeah, overseas Reliance Industry

727
00:37:06,760 --> 00:37:09,960
is one of industry's longest
largest conglomerates.

728
00:37:09,960 --> 00:37:11,800
I remember.
Them reliance industry.

729
00:37:12,160 --> 00:37:14,320
Yeah, it's called Reliance.
Interesting.

730
00:37:14,320 --> 00:37:17,040
Yeah, it's, it's huge, huge
shoots deal.

731
00:37:17,040 --> 00:37:20,680
He may be there's Merkash
Arbani.

732
00:37:20,680 --> 00:37:23,560
I think he might be the, the,
the tall office building.

733
00:37:23,560 --> 00:37:26,720
But there's, there's many, you
know, there's Mukesh, there's

734
00:37:26,720 --> 00:37:32,560
Gautam Adani, there's Saviri
Jindal, the Jindals, Shivnadar,

735
00:37:32,680 --> 00:37:34,760
Yeah.
I just remember seeing the photo

736
00:37:34,760 --> 00:37:38,200
and I think it was about 2012
National Geographic, and it was

737
00:37:38,440 --> 00:37:41,720
pretty egregious.
Yeah, pretty egregious.

738
00:37:41,800 --> 00:37:45,560
You know, I mean, well, look at
you know, they had to take down

739
00:37:45,560 --> 00:37:49,400
bridges to get Bezos yacht.
It was so big.

740
00:37:50,760 --> 00:37:54,480
Think about that.
I mean that's and it, and it was

741
00:37:54,480 --> 00:37:57,600
built in Amsterdam and they had
to take down a bridge or two.

742
00:37:57,920 --> 00:37:59,760
I, I, you know, when they build
it, but they planned on that.

743
00:37:59,760 --> 00:38:02,600
That was built into the cost of
it is that it's going to be so

744
00:38:02,600 --> 00:38:06,520
big that it's, it can't go under
the bridges that we have here.

745
00:38:06,520 --> 00:38:09,440
So we're going to have to take
them down after we built it.

746
00:38:10,520 --> 00:38:13,920
Sure, whatever, just add that,
put that on the tab and you

747
00:38:13,920 --> 00:38:16,360
think to yourself like, and he
has a he has a yacht.

748
00:38:16,360 --> 00:38:22,000
It's like, what is it?
He has a some, I don't know,

749
00:38:22,000 --> 00:38:25,040
it's like 100 foot or 150.
Foot thinking about taking

750
00:38:25,040 --> 00:38:28,600
bridges down akin to the way
people think about ordering

751
00:38:28,600 --> 00:38:32,120
appetizers at restaurants is
pretty crazy to me.

752
00:38:32,920 --> 00:38:35,760
That's yeah, that's a pretty
interesting thing.

753
00:38:35,760 --> 00:38:39,720
Well, it's, it's all about what,
what you get accustomed to, what

754
00:38:39,720 --> 00:38:42,000
you used to.
And it's like, OK, I'm going to

755
00:38:42,000 --> 00:38:43,800
have a birthday party for my
kid.

756
00:38:44,560 --> 00:38:48,280
So he's 16.
So I'm going to, I'm going to

757
00:38:48,480 --> 00:38:51,600
have a Roman theme.
I'm going to rent.

758
00:38:51,600 --> 00:38:54,840
There's an island off of Ibiza
and it, it cost like 5 million

759
00:38:54,840 --> 00:38:56,520
to rent, I'm gonna rent that
island.

760
00:38:57,760 --> 00:39:00,920
I'm gonna have, I've invited 300
guests.

761
00:39:01,720 --> 00:39:04,400
I'm gonna have pick up points in
the US and private jets.

762
00:39:04,400 --> 00:39:07,680
It's gonna be, and a lot of them
will have to be separate jets

763
00:39:07,680 --> 00:39:10,560
because most of these people
will not ride together in New

764
00:39:10,560 --> 00:39:14,800
York and Miami and LA.
So most people will get to these

765
00:39:14,800 --> 00:39:17,640
locations and then I will pick
them up and I will fly them to

766
00:39:17,640 --> 00:39:20,040
my island.
I rented a island.

767
00:39:20,480 --> 00:39:26,680
We we will have upon arrival,
they will go to the What the

768
00:39:26,680 --> 00:39:28,240
hell do they call you when they
dress you?

769
00:39:29,640 --> 00:39:31,680
When they dress you.
Yeah, they dressed.

770
00:39:31,680 --> 00:39:34,280
They dressed everybody in Roman
gear.

771
00:39:34,680 --> 00:39:38,440
Oh, like a wardrobe person.
Yeah, wardrobe person.

772
00:39:38,880 --> 00:39:43,360
Roman gear for 300.
This is real?

773
00:39:43,400 --> 00:39:46,120
I thought this was.
A yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

774
00:39:46,920 --> 00:39:50,120
Yeah, it was one of the most.
It was a, it was this.

775
00:39:50,360 --> 00:39:52,200
I don't think it was son.
I think it was his daughter.

776
00:39:52,560 --> 00:39:56,800
And I think it was her like 16th
or something like that.

777
00:39:56,800 --> 00:40:01,600
And if I remember correctly, the
number was like 28 million.

778
00:40:01,960 --> 00:40:03,880
Oh my God, I didn't even know
they had.

779
00:40:03,920 --> 00:40:06,880
Kids, you know, and this, no not
this is not Bezos.

780
00:40:06,880 --> 00:40:09,960
This is somebody else this.
Is a hedge fund guy and he's

781
00:40:09,960 --> 00:40:13,120
like, what am I going to do?
And then so all of a sudden

782
00:40:13,720 --> 00:40:19,920
you've kind of had somebody that
like you spent $28 million for.

783
00:40:20,080 --> 00:40:21,560
It's like a two or three day
affair.

784
00:40:21,800 --> 00:40:24,160
There's some like clean water.
If everybody could have clean

785
00:40:24,160 --> 00:40:27,720
water in the US, it's like,
well, 100 million or something,

786
00:40:27,840 --> 00:40:30,080
it's something like that.
But you know what, though, is

787
00:40:30,080 --> 00:40:32,560
that the US has been trying to
craft a slave class for the

788
00:40:32,560 --> 00:40:35,640
longest time again, and that's
kind of what we're getting too.

789
00:40:35,640 --> 00:40:37,520
But we haven't been.
We haven't been doing it.

790
00:40:37,640 --> 00:40:40,680
When you say you mean craft it,
is that what you said?

791
00:40:40,960 --> 00:40:42,600
Yeah.
Yeah, I think they are.

792
00:40:42,880 --> 00:40:45,800
This is all very purposeful.
This has been purposeful since

793
00:40:45,800 --> 00:40:49,440
2008.
I think that it's just been

794
00:40:49,440 --> 00:40:51,080
trying to go this way for the
longest.

795
00:40:51,080 --> 00:40:53,040
Time.
I would say since the 80s.

796
00:40:53,440 --> 00:40:55,920
Yeah.
Since we started, we, we started

797
00:40:55,920 --> 00:40:59,600
cutting taxes and that has we
started cutting taxes on the

798
00:40:59,600 --> 00:41:02,680
top, the very top earners since
then.

799
00:41:02,680 --> 00:41:04,960
Are you talking about triple?
Down economics, kind of.

800
00:41:04,960 --> 00:41:07,960
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Theory of may give me more and,

801
00:41:08,000 --> 00:41:12,160
and I have been and each and
every time it's been

802
00:41:12,160 --> 00:41:17,200
advantageous for me financially
and, and every single time when

803
00:41:17,520 --> 00:41:21,400
they cut the rich people's tax
by getting more, you know, so

804
00:41:22,320 --> 00:41:25,400
it's, it's really incredibly
stupid of me to bitch about

805
00:41:25,400 --> 00:41:27,920
that.
But I think that we need to as a

806
00:41:27,920 --> 00:41:33,000
society as a whole, think more
and care for those that have

807
00:41:33,000 --> 00:41:34,520
less.
And I don't think that it's that

808
00:41:34,960 --> 00:41:38,840
it's, you know, and it's not a,
it's not a judgement statement.

809
00:41:38,840 --> 00:41:42,720
It's what I try to do.
I think it's important.

810
00:41:42,960 --> 00:41:46,000
That's why I buy donkeys.
Cause donkeys are important are

811
00:41:46,000 --> 00:41:48,720
making people soulless.
I think that they're making

812
00:41:48,720 --> 00:41:51,560
people soulless 'cause you're so
distracted.

813
00:41:51,560 --> 00:41:56,480
And what is what the key kind of
what did Karl Marx say about in

814
00:41:56,480 --> 00:41:59,120
fascism?
And he's like, you just blind

815
00:41:59,120 --> 00:42:05,960
the opponent so starkly with
news about themselves and

816
00:42:05,960 --> 00:42:08,640
critiques about themselves that
they don't even have enough time

817
00:42:08,640 --> 00:42:10,560
to prepare to see what's going
on in front of them.

818
00:42:11,040 --> 00:42:13,920
That's a little loose thing.
And that's what's been going on

819
00:42:13,920 --> 00:42:17,360
for I don't even know how long.
And not just fascism, but on

820
00:42:17,360 --> 00:42:22,760
like all sorts news networks, I
think it has been going on with

821
00:42:22,760 --> 00:42:26,240
fascism, but also just you're
just blinded by so much content

822
00:42:26,240 --> 00:42:28,360
now that you don't even know
what your own life is like.

823
00:42:28,880 --> 00:42:31,760
And it's.
'Cause in the 80s there wasn't,

824
00:42:31,840 --> 00:42:34,400
there wasn't 24/7.
What's happening?

825
00:42:34,400 --> 00:42:37,920
We used to.
We were the purveyors of news

826
00:42:37,920 --> 00:42:41,160
out of the Securities Exchange
Commission when something

827
00:42:41,160 --> 00:42:44,280
happened there.
I knew it before the whole rest

828
00:42:44,280 --> 00:42:47,520
of the world.
When a company filed something

829
00:42:47,520 --> 00:42:49,920
or did something, that's where
it started.

830
00:42:50,120 --> 00:42:54,120
It was copied there, it went to
the newswire services and then

831
00:42:54,120 --> 00:42:55,920
it was disseminated.
This is pre Internet.

832
00:42:56,240 --> 00:43:01,160
So in the Internet now something
happens in India, you know, and

833
00:43:01,160 --> 00:43:03,880
there's a this, that or the
other that hurts somebody.

834
00:43:04,400 --> 00:43:09,440
And as long as it's gruesome
enough, you put it on, you put

835
00:43:09,440 --> 00:43:11,520
it on the web and you can get
you can get a whole lot of

836
00:43:11,520 --> 00:43:14,000
traction.
If it's mean and horrible and a

837
00:43:14,000 --> 00:43:17,120
lot of people die, maybe you got
some pictures of the torn up

838
00:43:17,120 --> 00:43:20,040
bodies and you can have don't
look at this and unless you

839
00:43:20,040 --> 00:43:22,560
really want to see the torn up
bodies, which is a driver to get

840
00:43:22,560 --> 00:43:28,440
people to click, you know.
And so I think that's, but you

841
00:43:28,440 --> 00:43:32,400
know, that still doesn't mean
that we can't be friends with

842
00:43:32,400 --> 00:43:34,040
donkeys.
What?

843
00:43:34,040 --> 00:43:35,800
What are you eating recently?
What are you?

844
00:43:35,800 --> 00:43:37,560
What are you eating?
Donkey meat.

845
00:43:38,200 --> 00:43:40,680
No, like what does your diet
consist of?

846
00:43:41,120 --> 00:43:47,000
What is my diet?
I think when I think of diets, I

847
00:43:47,040 --> 00:43:51,160
mean too much of one thing and
not enough of another.

848
00:43:51,160 --> 00:43:55,680
I'm I'm, I'm I'm trying to be
more conservative in.

849
00:43:56,240 --> 00:43:58,560
Without what you're trying to
do, just what you're doing.

850
00:44:00,160 --> 00:44:04,240
Today I had AI went by the
French restaurant.

851
00:44:04,360 --> 00:44:07,240
I bought a baguette.
I bought it home.

852
00:44:07,240 --> 00:44:11,600
I had three cups of coffee.
I have barbecued Buffalo

853
00:44:11,600 --> 00:44:16,400
chicken, you know, it's sliced.
I had a hat on the bag at with

854
00:44:16,400 --> 00:44:21,720
the Swiss, Lacey Swiss had that
for lunch, breakfast, whatever

855
00:44:21,720 --> 00:44:26,560
it like 12:30 and then I went I
had a doctor's appointment and

856
00:44:26,560 --> 00:44:28,520
then I came home in the
afternoon and I had another one

857
00:44:28,520 --> 00:44:31,480
at like 4:00.
And that's all I've had today.

858
00:44:31,720 --> 00:44:38,160
Yesterday had we had, I think I
had a bunch of I'm yogurt.

859
00:44:38,160 --> 00:44:39,920
All of a sudden I'm into yogurt
and blueberries.

860
00:44:39,920 --> 00:44:41,040
And stuff.
I can't do it.

861
00:44:41,240 --> 00:44:42,920
I can't do it.
I don't like it.

862
00:44:43,120 --> 00:44:44,360
I don't really like it that
much.

863
00:44:44,480 --> 00:44:47,480
I'm not a lover of yogurt, but
I'm a lover of the effect.

864
00:44:47,480 --> 00:44:50,680
If I eat yogurt and I put
blueberries and granola in it,

865
00:44:51,240 --> 00:44:54,360
it's it's and it's like 2% zero,
whatever the hell it is.

866
00:44:54,360 --> 00:44:57,640
I get the Ziggy whatever.
And that, that one's really

867
00:44:57,720 --> 00:45:00,720
well, you know, I think.
You don't like it too.

868
00:45:00,920 --> 00:45:03,520
I don't think you want to know
why I've never liked yogurt.

869
00:45:03,520 --> 00:45:09,480
It's because I've always done
the health nut, Faye, Faje,

870
00:45:09,480 --> 00:45:14,320
whatever it's called 0% fat, 0%.
And then I, I'm like, I'm

871
00:45:14,320 --> 00:45:17,880
forcing myself to eat it and I'm
like, why am I doing this?

872
00:45:17,960 --> 00:45:20,320
Why am I doing this to myself?
Why am I doing?

873
00:45:20,320 --> 00:45:23,920
I don't enjoy this.
I've learned that if I mix, I

874
00:45:23,920 --> 00:45:28,120
put a whole, I throw that in
that I put A at least an inch

875
00:45:28,160 --> 00:45:30,680
thick of blueberries.
Yeah, yeah.

876
00:45:31,200 --> 00:45:35,840
And then I take about 1/4 inch,
I mean, a handful of granola

877
00:45:36,160 --> 00:45:39,360
that I drop on top, the sort of
so then in every bite there's

878
00:45:39,360 --> 00:45:40,960
blueberries and granola, which I
like.

879
00:45:41,080 --> 00:45:44,120
I like those a lot.
And the, and the protein, it's

880
00:45:44,120 --> 00:45:46,400
like 18 grams of protein for
whatever.

881
00:45:46,800 --> 00:45:49,600
And that's the biggest thing is
you're supposed to be, you know,

882
00:45:49,920 --> 00:45:52,160
the news of the day, the doctors
of the day is they're pushing

883
00:45:52,160 --> 00:45:53,840
protein.
I don't know if this is because.

884
00:45:53,840 --> 00:45:56,080
I don't believe anything doctors
say anymore.

885
00:45:56,240 --> 00:45:58,640
I just don't.
Because bread's good for you one

886
00:45:58,640 --> 00:46:01,480
year, it's bad for you the next,
then it's bad again.

887
00:46:01,760 --> 00:46:04,520
Then bread causes cancer, then
it cures cancer.

888
00:46:04,520 --> 00:46:05,640
And then you know what?
I'm tired.

889
00:46:05,680 --> 00:46:07,920
I'm tired of it and I'm tired.
Of it, I'm thinking that the

890
00:46:07,920 --> 00:46:10,280
less chemical stuff that you get
because I'm that's.

891
00:46:10,280 --> 00:46:11,560
That's just what I'm thinking
about.

892
00:46:11,560 --> 00:46:13,680
One of the things that I try to
do is eat things with less

893
00:46:13,680 --> 00:46:17,600
chemicals in them.
Like blueberries and I mean

894
00:46:17,600 --> 00:46:20,840
granola has a fair amount of
chemical stuff in it to make it

895
00:46:20,840 --> 00:46:25,040
all sticky and sweet.
Yogurt is not, you know, it's

896
00:46:25,040 --> 00:46:27,160
all natural, whatever the hell
that.

897
00:46:27,160 --> 00:46:28,600
You know what I kind of stopped
doing?

898
00:46:28,600 --> 00:46:30,960
I kind of stopped eating just
fish, you know?

899
00:46:30,960 --> 00:46:32,360
Like I'll eat sushi, we eat.
Fish.

900
00:46:32,680 --> 00:46:35,560
We eat fish.
We just had steelhead last

901
00:46:35,560 --> 00:46:36,240
night.
I'll eat.

902
00:46:36,240 --> 00:46:38,840
Sushi I won't eat.
Fish I won't eat like, you know.

903
00:46:39,840 --> 00:46:46,600
Or salmon or trout.
Or I don't eat tilapia anymore

904
00:46:46,600 --> 00:46:49,080
because somebody said something
about it tastes like it's made

905
00:46:49,080 --> 00:46:50,840
of poop, but I don't know if
that's true.

906
00:46:50,840 --> 00:46:53,760
Well, it's a genetically
engineered fish to live on the

907
00:46:53,760 --> 00:46:57,680
bottom of the ocean or on the,
the, the whatever it is the fish

908
00:46:57,680 --> 00:47:01,320
farm and you got about 1000
million of them in one small

909
00:47:01,320 --> 00:47:03,800
little cage.
And so it's kind of like it's

910
00:47:04,080 --> 00:47:06,640
one is ethically wrong.
But at the same time, if you

911
00:47:06,640 --> 00:47:08,160
don't buy them, then other
people will.

912
00:47:08,160 --> 00:47:10,720
So who really cares?
Well, that's like saying if you

913
00:47:10,720 --> 00:47:13,600
know, if you don't, if you don't
murder them, somebody else will.

914
00:47:13,920 --> 00:47:17,160
Well, that's the whole thing
when people say how dare you

915
00:47:17,160 --> 00:47:19,280
take that flight?
You should be more conscious

916
00:47:19,280 --> 00:47:22,360
about your carbon footprint.
I'm like, the plane's taking off

917
00:47:22,360 --> 00:47:25,400
whether I'm on it or not.
Like, I don't know about that.

918
00:47:25,400 --> 00:47:30,080
Well, if, if everybody said
we're not going to take a plane,

919
00:47:30,200 --> 00:47:32,360
then it would matter.
And I think if that's the key,

920
00:47:32,360 --> 00:47:34,680
you have to, you have to have
society as a whole.

921
00:47:34,680 --> 00:47:36,520
One person cannot make the
impact you need.

922
00:47:36,920 --> 00:47:39,240
You need and, and one of the
things you have to do is you

923
00:47:39,240 --> 00:47:43,600
have to do what you say and say
what you do.

924
00:47:43,920 --> 00:47:47,320
You know, you have to be if, if
you're, it's like one of the

925
00:47:47,320 --> 00:47:52,040
things that I think was probably
one of the, the, the missteps of

926
00:47:52,040 --> 00:47:57,120
the original climate change Bush
was people were all talking

927
00:47:57,120 --> 00:47:59,200
about making the world a better
place and cleaner.

928
00:47:59,560 --> 00:48:01,880
And, and I think, I think that
if you were to come in and say

929
00:48:01,880 --> 00:48:05,440
that that's great.
But they had this, they had Gore

930
00:48:05,880 --> 00:48:10,240
who was the wrong person.
He's he's, he's considered on

931
00:48:10,240 --> 00:48:15,040
one side and one side only, and
he's not, he's not in the

932
00:48:15,040 --> 00:48:16,400
middle.
You need somebody like an egg.

933
00:48:16,680 --> 00:48:20,320
Ed Begley.
That from my perspective, is

934
00:48:20,320 --> 00:48:23,600
somebody that he rides a bike.
He doesn't, he doesn't ride a

935
00:48:23,600 --> 00:48:27,200
car.
He has his car, his house is in

936
00:48:27,200 --> 00:48:29,240
LA and it's totally self
sustainable.

937
00:48:29,600 --> 00:48:31,240
I mean, it's or something to
that effect.

938
00:48:31,240 --> 00:48:33,760
It recycles everything.
And it's like, that's the kind

939
00:48:33,760 --> 00:48:37,480
of person I don't need to, I
don't need to have you telling

940
00:48:37,480 --> 00:48:41,320
me that I should use less.
When you ride a private jet and

941
00:48:41,320 --> 00:48:45,360
you have this and on top of
that, then you went to work for

942
00:48:45,360 --> 00:48:49,640
a fund and you wanted to trade
carbon credits and it was your

943
00:48:49,640 --> 00:48:52,640
exchange that was going to make
you another billion.

944
00:48:53,000 --> 00:48:57,720
And I'm like, no, no, you're,
you're getting too much money

945
00:48:57,720 --> 00:48:59,440
for saying that you like climate
change.

946
00:48:59,440 --> 00:49:02,480
If you were getting no money and
you were doing something else

947
00:49:02,480 --> 00:49:04,800
with it, I would I would totally
respect that.

948
00:49:05,120 --> 00:49:08,960
But if I stand to make money by
a particular position and then

949
00:49:08,960 --> 00:49:11,760
I'm saying that's a good
position to be, then I feel like

950
00:49:11,760 --> 00:49:14,800
that I'm tainted.
That's just my thought.

951
00:49:15,120 --> 00:49:16,600
Well, I'll tell you something
too.

952
00:49:16,600 --> 00:49:21,200
What if I told you that those
energy saver statistics and

953
00:49:21,200 --> 00:49:25,480
measures at which the general
public can save on power and

954
00:49:25,480 --> 00:49:28,960
electricity and how they can
help the environment was one of

955
00:49:28,960 --> 00:49:34,200
the largest PR firms like deals
that came out of Big Coal.

956
00:49:34,360 --> 00:49:38,680
Big Coal made those PR deals to
have those in the general

957
00:49:38,680 --> 00:49:41,600
public.
That is true because it's a

958
00:49:41,600 --> 00:49:44,600
disguise to make it on the
general public that it's their

959
00:49:44,600 --> 00:49:47,280
fault that they're changing the
environment and not the

960
00:49:47,320 --> 00:49:51,760
unregistered coal scrubbers that
are pumping out thousands upon

961
00:49:51,760 --> 00:49:56,680
millions of cubic square feet of
carbon emissions per year that

962
00:49:56,680 --> 00:50:01,080
go unvetted all the time.
And it's not it's not my fault.

963
00:50:01,920 --> 00:50:04,840
It's.
Not it's, it's, it's I'm, I'm,

964
00:50:04,880 --> 00:50:09,000
I'm dumping 8 oz.
I don't fertilize anymore, but I

965
00:50:09,000 --> 00:50:12,040
used to fertilize the yard and I
was probably dumping pounds of,

966
00:50:12,480 --> 00:50:16,560
you know, fertilizer chemical
into the stream would wash by

967
00:50:16,560 --> 00:50:19,840
and go like a a couple pounds a
year.

968
00:50:20,280 --> 00:50:24,160
And that has nothing to to
resemble like the ones that are

969
00:50:24,160 --> 00:50:28,920
in the Midwest that have, you
know, 50,000 lbs of pesticides

970
00:50:28,920 --> 00:50:31,840
put out on a weekly basis and it
washes into this.

971
00:50:31,840 --> 00:50:34,480
No, but it's your fault.
It's not big pharma.

972
00:50:34,480 --> 00:50:37,800
Or even think about this.
Think about you mountain top

973
00:50:37,800 --> 00:50:41,560
mining in West Virginia where
they cut the top off of a

974
00:50:41,560 --> 00:50:45,520
mountain and then they push it
into a valley.

975
00:50:45,920 --> 00:50:51,000
Strip mall strip.
Like where a fucking lake is and

976
00:50:51,000 --> 00:50:55,040
then they they have the audacity
to blame me for driving on a

977
00:50:55,040 --> 00:50:57,240
road trip?
Are you shitting me?

978
00:50:57,240 --> 00:51:00,880
Like no, like it's not my fault.
It's good.

979
00:51:00,880 --> 00:51:02,760
Never.
Will be what?

980
00:51:03,840 --> 00:51:06,360
But then, but then the people
that say that it's your fault

981
00:51:06,360 --> 00:51:08,920
are making money off that.
So that's not that's fair.

982
00:51:09,040 --> 00:51:11,160
You know what?
The capitalist structure really,

983
00:51:11,160 --> 00:51:15,000
really works well when you you
just got to blame other people.

984
00:51:15,000 --> 00:51:19,240
I think, I think it really,
really works well for if you're

985
00:51:19,840 --> 00:51:22,480
a above a certain area.
And I think, though, that we're

986
00:51:22,480 --> 00:51:26,480
finding that even as we speak,
the bar is rising.

987
00:51:26,720 --> 00:51:30,240
Oh yeah, it keeps.
Rising with every year rises

988
00:51:30,240 --> 00:51:34,000
that, you know, having having
$1,000,000 is no longer like

989
00:51:34,400 --> 00:51:38,000
being wealthy and people look at
it and say wow, I want to be a

990
00:51:38,000 --> 00:51:39,960
millionaire.
And it's like, well, you know,

991
00:51:39,960 --> 00:51:42,840
in my neighborhood or in the
neighborhood that the one we

992
00:51:42,840 --> 00:51:47,240
lived before, the houses are,
you know, half 1,000,506

993
00:51:47,240 --> 00:51:51,720
hundred, 800 a million.
So if you own a house, you're a

994
00:51:51,720 --> 00:51:53,520
millionaire.
But but then you got to have a

995
00:51:53,520 --> 00:51:56,200
car, you got to have another car
because both of you are going to

996
00:51:56,200 --> 00:51:59,760
work for that, you know, And our
neighborhood, I think in this,

997
00:51:59,760 --> 00:52:04,800
in this area, the average income
is like 140 or $150,000 a year

998
00:52:04,800 --> 00:52:06,120
per person.
You know what I mean?

999
00:52:06,960 --> 00:52:10,680
See, on your point, Gavin Newsom
just came out to CNN and said

1000
00:52:10,680 --> 00:52:14,920
that he sees LA becoming the new
Detroit in the next five to six

1001
00:52:14,920 --> 00:52:17,520
years.
I saw that and it's funny 'cause

1002
00:52:17,520 --> 00:52:21,200
I watched a Detroit documentary
about this guy that moved there

1003
00:52:21,200 --> 00:52:25,720
from California 2008 and then
has been basically monitoring

1004
00:52:25,720 --> 00:52:28,800
kind of the transition right
throughout the last 20 years.

1005
00:52:29,040 --> 00:52:32,160
And it's a great documentary and
it's so funny 'cause in the his

1006
00:52:32,160 --> 00:52:35,800
own like kind of Q&A after the
movie, he said, wow, like, I

1007
00:52:35,800 --> 00:52:38,480
really look at you guys and I
really see this place becoming

1008
00:52:38,480 --> 00:52:40,520
the new Detroit.
And that was about a month

1009
00:52:40,520 --> 00:52:42,760
before Gavin Newsom said that.
I think that that well.

1010
00:52:42,760 --> 00:52:45,360
If you think about it now,
here's how does, how does it

1011
00:52:45,360 --> 00:52:46,920
happen?
What is there?

1012
00:52:47,280 --> 00:52:52,080
Are there, are there key points
that you can do to reverse that?

1013
00:52:52,160 --> 00:52:55,800
I mean, is it and and it's not?
I do.

1014
00:52:55,840 --> 00:52:58,800
I do not believe that it's kill
the homeless.

1015
00:52:58,960 --> 00:53:01,480
I don't think that's how.
You tax incentives to bring

1016
00:53:01,480 --> 00:53:04,480
production back to LA is the
only way that that would really

1017
00:53:04,480 --> 00:53:06,800
help 'cause the entertainment
industry was such a backbone of

1018
00:53:06,800 --> 00:53:08,720
this area.
I guess you really have Silicon

1019
00:53:08,720 --> 00:53:12,640
Valley now kind of putting them
putting up the GDP instead of,

1020
00:53:12,640 --> 00:53:17,760
you know what, Detroit.
Detroit had had a higher tax

1021
00:53:17,760 --> 00:53:20,400
rate than the rest of the
community because it was the

1022
00:53:20,400 --> 00:53:23,440
city and you survived the city.
So what happened?

1023
00:53:25,040 --> 00:53:27,640
What happened to Detroit auto
industry?

1024
00:53:27,680 --> 00:53:30,880
Auto industry moved out because
of the higher tax rate.

1025
00:53:31,240 --> 00:53:34,240
They moved to the suburbs.
Suburbs kept the lower tax rate.

1026
00:53:34,480 --> 00:53:39,360
So they were sucking off of and
they were using the city as the

1027
00:53:39,360 --> 00:53:40,880
airports and all the stuff like
that.

1028
00:53:41,080 --> 00:53:43,120
Yet everybody moved to the
suburbs.

1029
00:53:43,240 --> 00:53:45,560
They moved to the suburbs
because cleaner, safer, blah,

1030
00:53:45,560 --> 00:53:47,080
blah, blah.
And you got a lot.

1031
00:53:47,280 --> 00:53:49,120
It's like, I know people that
live in New York City and love

1032
00:53:49,120 --> 00:53:50,280
it.
But then then they moved into

1033
00:53:50,280 --> 00:53:51,840
the state.
They're like, Oh my God, I have

1034
00:53:51,840 --> 00:53:53,880
a yard.
I can walk out in the back of my

1035
00:53:53,880 --> 00:53:57,520
yard and I can have a picnic in
my own yard, my yard, you know,

1036
00:53:57,520 --> 00:54:00,360
And you're like, I have a dog
now that could go outside

1037
00:54:00,680 --> 00:54:03,560
without me with him.
I never understood that.

1038
00:54:03,560 --> 00:54:07,000
Having a dog in New York, What
the hell is that?

1039
00:54:07,480 --> 00:54:10,200
I see people.
Or even lonely for that matter.

1040
00:54:10,720 --> 00:54:13,800
Like, I know you're lonely, but
that is the you go to work, you

1041
00:54:13,800 --> 00:54:17,360
go to an office, and you leave
your dog at home. 8 hours, 8

1042
00:54:17,360 --> 00:54:20,880
hours with nobody.
You know, those people are the

1043
00:54:20,880 --> 00:54:24,160
scum of the earth, I swear.
And then you go outside and then

1044
00:54:24,160 --> 00:54:26,400
you let your dog shit on the
fucking pavement.

1045
00:54:26,400 --> 00:54:28,360
I have to step in it.
What is that?

1046
00:54:28,360 --> 00:54:30,040
Oh my God.
Sidewalk is much better.

1047
00:54:30,280 --> 00:54:33,640
Bujka told me that when I was 13
years old, we were walking with

1048
00:54:33,640 --> 00:54:35,320
you in New York.
We were visiting him and he's

1049
00:54:35,320 --> 00:54:37,040
like, he's like, are these
people?

1050
00:54:37,040 --> 00:54:39,240
And they're fucking dogs, How
dare them.

1051
00:54:39,240 --> 00:54:41,840
And then I was like, that's kind
of an overt mind.

1052
00:54:41,840 --> 00:54:43,160
So that's kind of a little
ridiculous.

1053
00:54:43,160 --> 00:54:44,360
And then I thought about it
more.

1054
00:54:44,360 --> 00:54:45,840
I was like, no, you're totally
right.

1055
00:54:46,160 --> 00:54:48,640
You're totally right about that.
Oh my gosh.

1056
00:54:48,840 --> 00:54:52,320
It's, you know, and in the
argument you're going to take

1057
00:54:52,320 --> 00:54:54,400
care of dogs, it's like, ah, are
you really?

1058
00:54:55,240 --> 00:54:57,880
No, no you're not.
No.

1059
00:54:58,680 --> 00:55:00,920
No.
Because if there isn't demand,

1060
00:55:00,920 --> 00:55:03,120
there wouldn't be dogs.
You know, what time are we at

1061
00:55:03,240 --> 00:55:05,600
Aaron, by the way?
People talk about well, we, we,

1062
00:55:06,000 --> 00:55:09,040
we're out, we pop to an hour.
Yeah, that's what I thought.

1063
00:55:09,200 --> 00:55:10,400
What?
What are our donkeys?

1064
00:55:11,080 --> 00:55:14,840
What Mikey and Mackie?
Mikey and Mackie, we've had

1065
00:55:14,840 --> 00:55:18,720
multiple updates.
When you come back, we'll have

1066
00:55:18,720 --> 00:55:21,360
to go see them and ride them and
take pictures and post it to

1067
00:55:22,080 --> 00:55:23,880
Yeah, my father.
I think so.

1068
00:55:24,120 --> 00:55:26,880
Well, I'm using the thumbnail of
them smiling.

1069
00:55:27,560 --> 00:55:30,880
Yeah, smiling donkeys.
I love that.

1070
00:55:30,960 --> 00:55:34,560
Yeah, Chris, it's a good thing,
you know, to make other people

1071
00:55:34,560 --> 00:55:37,560
smile.
And I think that that is that's

1072
00:55:37,560 --> 00:55:40,680
a worry worthy life.
Would the people are gonna love

1073
00:55:40,680 --> 00:55:42,320
this thumbnail like this
thumbnail?

1074
00:55:42,880 --> 00:55:43,680
This.
Is gonna be great.

1075
00:55:43,680 --> 00:55:44,800
I need to download this right
now.

1076
00:55:44,800 --> 00:55:47,720
I just like this photo, makes me
happy.

1077
00:55:48,120 --> 00:55:49,920
Don't you wanna?
Don't you wanna be a donkey?

1078
00:55:50,680 --> 00:55:52,360
Yes, I definitely.
I mean a donkey.

1079
00:55:52,400 --> 00:55:56,600
A donkey makes people happy.
I I think of Eddie Murphy

1080
00:55:56,600 --> 00:55:59,800
donkey, I'll tell you about a
retiring.

1081
00:55:59,920 --> 00:56:04,160
Plan move to somewhere that's
not here because there's going

1082
00:56:04,160 --> 00:56:07,920
to be a tremendous recession in
the next 10 years and oh, 10

1083
00:56:08,960 --> 00:56:10,440
minutes.
Yeah, right.

1084
00:56:10,760 --> 00:56:12,360
And then we're never going to
recover from it.

1085
00:56:12,360 --> 00:56:17,240
Go to Europe, have a mini goat
farm, Have a mini goat farm out

1086
00:56:17,240 --> 00:56:19,600
in the middle of France where
you see those houses for like

1087
00:56:19,600 --> 00:56:21,480
200 thousands, like a 14
bedroom.

1088
00:56:21,920 --> 00:56:25,680
Live there.
Hang out with the ghosts and

1089
00:56:26,200 --> 00:56:28,280
extract goat milk all day.
That's kind of.

1090
00:56:28,280 --> 00:56:29,880
Like don't buy the house, rent
the house.

1091
00:56:30,080 --> 00:56:31,840
Rent the house.
Never buy.

1092
00:56:32,000 --> 00:56:34,720
Never buy in a foreign.
Land those historical places too

1093
00:56:34,720 --> 00:56:37,320
I don't know about.
I don't know how the historical

1094
00:56:37,320 --> 00:56:40,760
values cause in DC too.
You can't change a lot of things

1095
00:56:40,760 --> 00:56:45,080
or you need to hire contractors
with specific licenses that can

1096
00:56:45,080 --> 00:56:46,720
work on things.
That are Alexander is the same

1097
00:56:46,720 --> 00:56:48,320
way 18 meters.
Yeah.

1098
00:56:48,840 --> 00:56:52,000
You know I got to change my
window $3000.

1099
00:56:52,160 --> 00:56:54,760
Well, that's where granddad ran
into a lot of because he didn't

1100
00:56:54,760 --> 00:56:57,360
have the licensing to work on a
lot of that stuff, so he

1101
00:56:57,360 --> 00:56:59,200
couldn't book the jobs.
Yeah.

1102
00:56:59,200 --> 00:57:01,680
And that was that was a problem.
Yeah, but he did.

1103
00:57:01,680 --> 00:57:04,360
Did he own?
He he granddad never had a

1104
00:57:04,360 --> 00:57:07,480
donkey story, did he?
No, no, not to no.

1105
00:57:07,480 --> 00:57:08,920
Didn't you have?
We haven't.

1106
00:57:08,960 --> 00:57:13,520
We have a Christmas ornament of
a blue donkey.

1107
00:57:14,120 --> 00:57:17,200
We do.
Yeah, whatever donkey stories

1108
00:57:17,200 --> 00:57:20,840
can you think of?
I remember riding one.

1109
00:57:20,840 --> 00:57:24,000
Do we ride them in the colop, I
guess, or are those horses?

1110
00:57:24,000 --> 00:57:26,280
Those were real horses around
the volcano.

1111
00:57:27,040 --> 00:57:30,640
We rode them fast as hell, too.
Yeah, that was a dream.

1112
00:57:30,640 --> 00:57:33,520
Was that a dream or was that
real Galapagos?

1113
00:57:33,600 --> 00:57:37,040
First time, yeah.
First time, Yeah, first time we

1114
00:57:37,040 --> 00:57:37,920
did.
So we did do that.

1115
00:57:37,920 --> 00:57:39,440
That wasn't a dream.
Second time we were on a boat.

1116
00:57:40,160 --> 00:57:42,640
Yeah, there was no horses on the
boat.

1117
00:57:43,200 --> 00:57:45,000
We're no horses on the boat.
Yeah, there was a couple.

1118
00:57:45,040 --> 00:57:46,840
There were a couple bigs from no
horse.

1119
00:57:47,480 --> 00:57:50,760
Some horse faced people, but
never never because.

1120
00:57:50,760 --> 00:57:52,080
We I know I'm looking in a
mirror again.

1121
00:57:53,280 --> 00:57:54,920
We're just so attracted.
Tell you that.

1122
00:57:55,280 --> 00:57:58,760
We're just so attracted.
All right, it's well, it it'll

1123
00:57:58,800 --> 00:57:59,920
be.
Wrapping up, what are we doing

1124
00:57:59,920 --> 00:58:00,920
here?
No, I was just it.

1125
00:58:01,320 --> 00:58:03,680
Well, I'll close with the story.
I remember I was sitting in

1126
00:58:03,680 --> 00:58:06,160
Rehoboth at beach with one of
the buddies and we're there

1127
00:58:06,160 --> 00:58:08,080
drinking a bar overlooking the
boardwalk.

1128
00:58:08,080 --> 00:58:13,160
And this guy is bold and he
weighs about 300 lbs, two 80,

1129
00:58:13,520 --> 00:58:18,920
and he's probably about 5-7.
And he would be out of the top

1130
00:58:18,920 --> 00:58:21,200
100.
He's definitely in the 90s as

1131
00:58:21,200 --> 00:58:23,560
far as who do you want to date
or go out with?

1132
00:58:24,400 --> 00:58:27,280
And he's making references to
these women that walk by that

1133
00:58:27,280 --> 00:58:29,600
are in bikinis going, oh man,
look at that.

1134
00:58:29,600 --> 00:58:32,360
She's got a belly.
Wow, that's disgusting.

1135
00:58:32,840 --> 00:58:35,240
And I'm looking at him and I'm
just like, and he's wired a

1136
00:58:35,240 --> 00:58:37,080
shirt.
He's got one of those Hawaiian

1137
00:58:37,080 --> 00:58:41,280
shirts and literally the buttons
are pulling apart.

1138
00:58:41,360 --> 00:58:44,760
Like when you see when it's so
fat and it's so sticking out and

1139
00:58:44,760 --> 00:58:49,120
I'm thinking like, what?
I just couldn't.

1140
00:58:49,400 --> 00:58:51,440
I couldn't get over that because
it was so funny.

1141
00:58:51,680 --> 00:58:53,680
Maybe a little introspection do.
You not.

1142
00:58:53,680 --> 00:58:58,520
Do you not see that what you
know that you probably shouldn't

1143
00:58:58,520 --> 00:59:02,160
be judging something else when
you you appear to be?

1144
00:59:03,920 --> 00:59:06,200
Wow.
Wow, little introspection goes a

1145
00:59:06,200 --> 00:59:08,120
long way, you know.
Yeah, exactly.

1146
00:59:08,240 --> 00:59:09,840
Little introspection.
That was funny.

1147
00:59:10,080 --> 00:59:13,480
That was really good.
Well, as always, a record of

1148
00:59:13,480 --> 00:59:15,600
myfather.com.
Check us out on Spotify,

1149
00:59:15,600 --> 00:59:20,760
Instagram, YouTube, and then Oh
yeah, Oh yeah, this was the

1150
00:59:20,760 --> 00:59:23,200
episode.
No, wait, wait, this isn't now 2

1151
00:59:23,200 --> 00:59:25,240
episodes after we did the Adam
Weber one.

1152
00:59:25,640 --> 00:59:28,840
So that's great.
Talk to you guys later.

1153
00:59:28,840 --> 00:59:30,560
See you next week.
Party on.