Covid

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Welcome back to another episode
of a record of my father.

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Here we are.
What is this episode 8 this

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season?
Season three.

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So here we go. 8 or 9 actually.
Look at us already.

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What are you doing?
Are you doing arithmetic there,

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Matt?
Yeah, I think so.

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I think you know that barely add
at this point, but today we're

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going to be talking about COVID
and our experience during the

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pandemic because I don't think
we ever really touched on that,

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did we?
No.

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We didn't.
It was.

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It sucked, but did we start?
I think we started this kind of

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at the tail end of it started
what?

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Oh, this.
Oh the Yeah, we.

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Started the whole thing.
At the tail end of this, it was.

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I think I was in college, right?
Yeah, not 2023.

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It was right at the right at the
very tail end because we were

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like looking for you know, ways
to, I don't know, I.

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Think it was after I graduated
though.

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I think it was in, yeah.
Yeah, you had time.

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But I accomplished some of my
greatest things during COVID.

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I mean, I got into University of
Virginia, I wrote, I wrote a

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book as well.
And then I started reading a lot

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again.
So those were some of the few

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things that I accomplished,
which was surprising that I got

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anything done at all.
Like, I don't know.

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Well, I would say that I doubled
my liquor consumption.

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Oh, me as well.
Maybe.

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Triple, maybe triple.
And 'cause I I I just so it was

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so weird because it was just
like, don't go out and go

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anywhere and buy anything, you
know, 'cause if you go to the

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store, you're, I mean, in the
beginning we would go to the

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store and remember, we would
wash the food and I.

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Remember that.
Oh my God.

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You know, when you look back to
that and you're going like,

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really?
I got to a point where I was

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like, I'd rather die than
fucking use a Clorox wipe to a a

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Peach ever again.
Yeah.

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No.
No, no, I don't.

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I don't care anymore.
That's there's a point.

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But the I think the interesting
thing is, is that how how

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through time that when you think
about when it first started to

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like each time you caught it.
I mean, I think I've, I've

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tested positive four times.
I believe I've had it five

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times.
And so it's like, I've had it a

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lot, you know, And I've had it
like devastatingly like 15 days,

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lose 19 lbs, something like
that.

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Which is the first time you got
It was real bad.

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I remember you.
I thought you were going to die.

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I couldn't get out of bed.
It was it was the weirdest thing

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in the world.
I would sleep, I go to bed at

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like 8:00 at night.
I would wake up at 10:00 the

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next morning, and I get up and I
go, Nope.

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I'm going to go back to sleep
for another hour or two, but I

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got to pee.
OK, make it to the restroom.

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Come back and lay back down.
Sleep for two more hours.

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Get up.
Say, you know, I should probably

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drink some waters and then get
up and then go downstairs.

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OK.
I'm ready for the day.

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I'd have a cup of coffee, drink
glass of water, and it'd be 1:00

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and I'd be like, OK, I think I
want to take a nap.

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And this was like I mean.
I have to say the sleep regimen

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was really good.
I'd have to say I've never

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gotten better sleep in my life.
I wouldn't, I hate to say.

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I would go back and pay for that
type of sleep because I got more

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sleep and it was just dead to
the world.

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Oh yeah, you know, you know,
people wake up, wake up, man.

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I was like, there's deep sleep
and then there's like subatomic

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or whatever the hell it is when
you're deeper.

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Oh, the the R.E.M.
Was like, are you talking about?

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The R.E.M. cycle.
No, I was Earth's core sleep.

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That's what I was.
I was all the way down.

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Oh my gosh.
Yeah, I remember that.

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That was great.
But also like you, you

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everything hurt.
I didn't really get that.

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I think I had like chest pain.
I had really, really bad chest

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pain.
Like it got to a point to where

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I was like, I'm having a stroke
or something.

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Heart attack, I remember.
Yeah, I remember that cause.

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Yeah, as a remember.
When I went to the, were you in

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the?
I'm done, yeah.

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Were you in the?
Were you there when I went?

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To the I was not in the ER, but
they mom was telling me that

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yeah, you wanted to go get the
antibodies.

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There's something, right?
First I thought.

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I had it, No.
First they thought I had a heart

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attack.
Oh, wow.

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I did the antibodies like 6
months or nine months later and

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I went there.
The first time.

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There was no antibodies or what?
Wasn't anything like that at all

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'cause it was in.
February, which she never told

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me that before.
Anything.

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And I I got, I got taken, I
couldn't get out of bed.

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My chest had seized and I would
just come up and I'd be like, I

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can't get out, You can't get out
of bed kicking on a bed.

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And I was making these weird
squeaky noises and she's looking

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at me and going like, what do
you think I should do?

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And, you know, maybe let me die.
Was that when you had COVID?

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Yeah, I think.
They did not test for it, 'cause

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they didn't have any tests then
that was that was in February.

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Remember, it happened in Wu Tang
Clan in in January, and then it

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came here and then by February
nobody was like nobody was

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believing that anything was
happening and it was all going

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to go away.
Like A Bola or something?

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Yeah, it's.
Like, it's it's it's one of

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these limited things.
No, exactly.

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But the but the doctors weren't
ready for it.

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And they tested me and they did
all this different stuff and all

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my blood was fine and all my
heart was fine and everything

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was good.
And then at the end of the day,

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they're like, well, I guess
you're fucked, you know?

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And they they they just, they
sent me off.

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And then they gave you a an
invoice for $40,000, right it.

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Was only 8000 that time they?
Told.

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Me to They told me to go to a
heart specialist.

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Ah, OK, gotcha.
But.

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Then by the next day it was OK.
That's what they always do as

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well.
They're like, we can't find

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anything, but here's we're going
to garnish your wages at Autism

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they.
Did that when I had the fragment

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in my spine, it was the same
kind of thing where I went in

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there and it was, it was, that
was $11,000 worth of tests.

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And they're like, well, we can't
give any more drugs, 'cause

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you're going to die if we do.
So that's all we can do.

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Bye.
I'm like, So what do you, what

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happens?
And they're like, well, you you

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need to go see a back
specialist.

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And I'm going like, well, OK, so
are you going to make me stop

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screaming randomly here or?
You can't do.

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Anything about that, sorry.
Yeah, but what did you do during

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COVID?
You, well, you kind of were

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beginning to understand that you
were retiring, I think.

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I think that that's.
Something.

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Yeah, because I had left Relics
who which had bought

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Intelligized 3 years before.
But I I left in December of that

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year and COVID hit February the
following year.

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So I was totally freaking free
soul with retirement.

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But then retirement of you can't
go anywhere.

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Yeah, so.
So it was open season on the

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park.
Everyone to the park, you know?

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And also is this like?
We did do a lot of walking,

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didn't we?
Yeah.

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Yeah.
Well, if you look at the

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national stats for like liquor
consumption in 2020 and 2021,

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it, it increased I think by 60
or 70%, which means that

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everybody drank twice, not just
a little bit more.

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Oh, what?
Twice what they do.

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Well, there was AI would yeah,
I'm sorry, continue.

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Now you go ahead.
I was gonna say there's this

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comedian that was like, yeah,
just during the pandemic, I'd

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just be in the living room and
I'd just black out and it's like

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just like I'd just be watching
TV and be black out drunk in the

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living room.
It's like it's.

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So funny when you think about
that.

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And it's like, that's like,
that's all I was.

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Yeah.
And it was just like, this thing

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is just like, well, you know,
what's the point?

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Yeah.
We're stuck here.

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And at first they were,
everybody was trying to say no,

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no, not so bad, not so bad, not
so bad.

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Yet everybody's dying over there
and one out of 100 that goes in

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the hospital dies and you go on
a ventilator and you're like,

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no, I don't want to deal with
that.

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I want to be drunk when I die.
That's all I want to tell you

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that.
Yeah.

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Or I want to.
I want to have least of been

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able to say, wow, this was cool
and I had a great time and I'm

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dead now.
Yeah.

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And there there were, what'd
they say, 400,000 that died in

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the first year?
I think so, yeah.

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It was real close to.
That was that worldwide or was

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that nationally?
No, that's just.

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US Oh, that was nationally.
So I mean, you break that down

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to like how many people is that
per state?

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It's people, you know, we knew
people, friends of friends that

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had died from it.
So for me it was like, you know

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and and I'm sure it's not
easily.

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Especially people with
autoimmune disorders.

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That was a that was a big thing
as well.

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Yeah, it was autoimmune.
And then they're saying, oh,

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it's only people that are out of
shape and it's like that's half

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over half of America.
That's a lot of, yeah.

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You know, I mean, how would you
argue that means 8000 just if

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you were just to randomly throw
the number across, it's 8000 per

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state?
Wow.

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I mean that's like that's that's
a, that's a, that's a, that's a

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chunk.
What is a heart attack

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nationally per year?
It's I think it's like.

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Oh, it's probably a lot.
More, Yeah, I think it's like

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203 hundred thousand.
Yeah, I think it's pretty close

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it.
Passed that you know it started

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passing.
That's what made it odd, yeah.

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And it was very like quick, you
know, it just.

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And then then they came out with
the vaccine and everybody's all

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freaked out about the vaccine.
They said the vaccine would cure

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it and keep it away.
And it didn't.

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No.
They also said that in the

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beginning that masks weren't
helpful.

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And I remember.
That I remember that too.

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That really pissed me off.
Mm hmm.

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They never came out and
apologized.

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They never said.
Say one thing and then be like

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oh wait, that was that was
wrong.

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You're you're NIH.
You're supposed to tell us what

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the Hell's going on.
You're not supposed to.

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And what they were, you know
what?

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What was said later, not by
them.

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But what was said later is, oh,
they were just doing it because

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they thought everybody would
hoard supplies.

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Well, no shit, yeah.
You know.

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Exactly.
But it's not.

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It's not their job to protect
some of America.

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It's their job to report.
To all of us, you.

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Know and that's.
And that's what led to the whole

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mistrusting of the CDC.
Yeah.

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And he was like, oh, when they
go back.

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Home, they started off on a
shitty foot and then granted,

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they're they were dealing with
the person who was a little

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unreasonable.
But you know, hey.

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But then that gives like the the
fuel for the fire to say, oh,

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well, you can't trust the CDC
'cause they go back on their

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word like they did, right,
right.

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And and then and then that's
when the whole the reporting and

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when people doubts a scientific
institution, that's when you

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start running into gigantic.
And and and then you could argue

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another argument is as well.
With science you don't know all

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the factors in the beginning you
learn over time.

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So at first they could have said
masks don't matter, but then

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they start giving.
Then they start trying masks and

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they say, well, they actually do
offer some help.

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Exactly, yeah.
Which they did.

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Yeah.
You know, and that's something

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that's and and that would be
something I would say that's

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what we learned over time.
But I mean, I guess I don't ever

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remember seeing that publicized.
All I remember is masks aren't

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health anywhere in February and
then a couple months later for

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some reason they were mandatory
and restaurants and crap.

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Yeah, it's.
Just to beyond me and I

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understand that science changes.
I, I, I, I absolutely understand

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when you find new information,
when you find new stuff about

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this and I think the idea that
well it's easy to be critical in

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hindsight, but they they there's
there's so much that they could

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have done that we made it
better.

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Let it always is too.
I realized that, you know, we

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can blame the guy at the top
too, because he was very, what

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do you call it, hostile chains,
you know, And there was the

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economy went from humming along
to zero.

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You know, everybody's getting
wiped out.

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They he goes out and says, well,
we can give $5 billion to this.

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And they're like, no, you want
500 billion and then 500

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billion.
He's like, what?

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What?
And then they raised the number

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again and raised it again and
raised it again and raised it

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again because we started to
realize that he's going to work

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worldwide.
Yeah.

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And what what happens when that
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And if you think about this,
it's like, I mean, and then

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people start pointing fingers
and say he had a playbook and

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there was a playbook and they
stopped all that infectious

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disease playbook and they
stopped all that they did.

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OK, Oops, coulda, woulda,
shoulda.

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You screwed up, messed up.
It should develop a new one, you

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know, And there was, there was
lots of, there was lots of bad

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stuff that went along that was,
you know, I mean a lot of

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people, you know, suicide went
up.

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Oh my God.
Yeah, people, I knew that.

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Depression.
Depression was through the

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freaking roof.
No, it was.

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It was crazy for me, though,
like I as somebody who can be

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either an introvert or an
extrovert.

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It wasn't all that terrible.
It wasn't all that bad for me.

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I didn't feel isolated.
Well, also, we had an

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opportunity that a lot of people
didn't.

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We had access to a gym.
We had access to walking around

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outside.
Well, we weren't in an apartment

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and a studio apartment.
We weren't in a one bedroom

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apartment or even A2 bedroom
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We were in a house, right.
And I think that that was

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freaking life changing.
That was.

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Did the gym?
Was the gym already done then?

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Part of it was there was a bench
press in there, I think.

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OK, so we moved it down from
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Because we did that like 2
summers before or something.

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Yeah.
Or summer before.

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Yeah, that.
Oh wait, no, wasn't.

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It was up in my room.
It was up in my room.

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That's.
Why it was up in your room.

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That's why I was so it.
Wasn't, yeah.

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It was slowly developed, I don't
think, until the fall did we

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move everything down.
Yeah, not until the fall or to

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the Yeah, yeah, because.
Then I got it, and then I ended

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up getting it painted and all
that and making a gym.

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And see, the gym has been
something to me.

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That is, I would say, changed my
life.

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I would say so as well.
You know, I mean, it's across

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the it's so hard to go get in
your car when you're right there

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and here, gosh is your gym and
you're like.

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It's too far, no?
Exactly.

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And I'm.
One of those animals that once I

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go in there, then I can do it.
You know, I can spend my hour

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and 15 minutes if it's, you
know, whatever.

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It's just a matter of getting
there.

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That's why we're talking about
code, though.

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We're going to the gym.
But I mean, it changed a lot of

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behavior.
Oh yeah.

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You know, I got rid of the I I
had an odor eater and they were

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smoking cigars all the time.
And I got rid of it.

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Yeah, that was around that time,
you know?

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I mean, that was huge.
That was a huge difference.

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But we were.
I mean, I started when I went

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to.
We used to go to liquor store

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every so often and buy something
and buddies would come over and

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drink a little bit.
Oh my God.

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I went to liquor store and
somehow think that it was safer

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to buy liquor and quantity.
I would just tell anybody

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listening, well, you don't know
my habits, but I would say, wow,

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don't do that.
You don't.

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You can always buy another
bottle.

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And don't buy a case of liquor
at a time.

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Oh my.
God, no, that's for sure.

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We bought the first one and it's
like, wow, we this this will

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last us almost half two weeks
later.

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Well, I got to go again.
No another case.

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And you're like, well, get a
couple extra bottles because you

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know, so it'll last the whole
month that lasted 7 days.

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Oh my God. 30 bottles of liquor
two weeks.

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Oh my gosh.
Oh my God, we were.

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We.
Were we?

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Were, Yeah.
Well, that's when I discovered

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like what it was like in like
1910 in like the late 1800s when

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people were just absolutely rip
shit faced all the time and they

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were still accomplishing things
like the light bulb and things

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like that.
Because you were like Edison was

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a drunk.
You don't think he was?

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Maybe he was.
But definitely the Wright

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Brothers, because there's no way
you're going to jump on this

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little wooden stick.
And you got a freaking clip and.

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Try to fly, unless you're at
least a third in the bag.

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Alexander Graham looked like
one, but I don't know.

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I don't know.
Drunk.

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Drunk.
Well, like you think about all

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those guys in like the lack of
potable water earlier in the in

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the world and like how people
just needed to drink alcohol

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pieces fermented and it was like
it was a use of way of.

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Life a mild butts.
Yeah, no, exactly.

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Isn't that funny?
It's like those people

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accomplished it and that's what
we did.

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Like the whole freaking time.
Gosh or.

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At least the first year, that's
when you started to get

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motivated and that's when I
started to get motivated to be

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physically in a better.
Yeah, it's state 'cause I feel

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like you bring yourself down
here and you're like, oh man,

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you gotta get back up here, You
gotta go back.

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Well, yeah.
No, no, exactly.

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Well, you start to like look at
your health and start to, you

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know, and also I was in 62 or
whatever it was at the time.

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I was retiring for the second or
third time.

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And I was like, is this it?
And then I wasn't sure.

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And then I got involved with a
few things and they went left

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and right.
And and I'm like, I don't know.

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And now I feel kind of
comfortable with what I do.

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I would like to do more.
And I know that for me to do

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more, I have to pursue things to
do more.

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Oh, yeah.
But I mean I am.

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I am.
Hitting.

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On average and the last fourth,
you know, since the COVID break,

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six countries a year, that
excludes coming to you twice a

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year, going to New York twice a
year, going to going to Florida

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once a year, going to like
wherever the hell else we go.

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We're going to Charleston.
We're going to, We're going to

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Indiana.
We're going to Chicago.

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We're going, I mean.
Jeez.

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Yeah, and I mean.
Plus +6.

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Countries you know.
No, not for sure.

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It's.
Like, wow, I just think that

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that's for me, it's all about, I
feel like I learn a lot when I

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travel, you know?
And maybe maybe COVID gave me

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the bite more.
I'd already had it.

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But also retirement, COVID, the
whole thing, it sort of makes

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you, you, you, you have more
time to, you know, be a drunk.

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But also at some point you can
decide to be something else.

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For sure.
Which is good I.

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Think reinvent, Reinvent
yourself.

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Yeah.
Yeah, and I've tried.

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I failed it.
Wow.

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Well, I think that's something
that we always talk about.

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It's hard to go back to becoming
a beginner.

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It's something when you've been
an expert in something for so

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long.
And I think that that is going

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to be an issue that you're going
to deal with until your dad.

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Because yeah, exactly.
I'm never going to have 40 years

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of experience in any field.
It's just not going to happen.

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That 100%.
Except for maybe picking my

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nose.
Or, you know, going to the

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bathroom.
It's like which are

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unfortunately not things I can
get paid to do.

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And also something that isn't
vocational based, like a job,

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right.
And isn't something, yeah, like

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you're going to have to have to
figure out what it means to be

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uncomfortable as a beginner.
And that's that's that's

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frustrating.
It's kind of, well, it's

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frustrating for me now in my
20s, I can tell you that.

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So I mean, especially when
you're supposed to have, oh

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you're old and you know
everything, blah blah blah blah

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blah.
I was like, hell, no, I don't

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know.
Crap.

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You know exactly.
But I've never had a problem

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being.
What do you call it?

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I don't think.
I think I as as big as my my

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confidence level is I've never
had a a problem with people

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telling me that's not right.
For sure.

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You know, I'm I'm.
That's one of my qualities that

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I really try to like.
As much as I try to browbeat

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people into my position when
they're right, I shut the fuck

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up, 'cause I think that that's.
I think that's very, very, very.

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That's the most important thing
to do is.

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When you hear something that's
contrary, you don't attack it

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because it's contrary you.
You attack it because it's

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wrong.
Yeah, you know it's.

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Contrary.
Then it's like, well, first

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thing you got to do is say, OK,
is is did he have a valid Zach,

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have a valid point and then
think it through and go like, oh

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man, I didn't plan on that, you
know.

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And that's just the way my mind
works.

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And then it's like, well, if
your valid point is true, then I

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I change the way I think.
And I think that's kind of the

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way science works too.
You know, you people sit out

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here and say, oh, it's this and
it's like and it's proved and

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it's like, well, it's you know,
it's an ever evolving thing

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forever.
And it's and it's very hard for

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a lot of people to look at
something and saying, you know,

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when you look at the COVID
thing, it's like, oh, is it

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going to be this or that?
It's going to be a cure or it's

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going to be a vaccine or it's
going to work, you know, and

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it's what's the and.
And I think The thing is, is

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that a lot of lot, lot of it is
they were frightened to say that

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they did not know.
Well, it's also like a lot of

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people don't even know it
scientifically.

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When you have 46% of Americans
that read below a 6th grade

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reading level, it's hard to help
them understand what even

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scientifically A vaccine is,
'cause I remember some tweets

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that were like, what if we just
got small amounts of the virus

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and then let the body handle it
over time?

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And I'm like, that's exactly
what a a vaccine is.

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That's exactly you just.
Exactly.

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Yeah.
So I think that that.

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Well, I think The thing is, you
can't talk to people like that

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in a condescending manner.
You have to.

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Say.
Yeah.

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So the way to bring people
forward is not to shit on them,

451
00:21:39,600 --> 00:21:44,080
it's to tell them, well, this is
and I think the thing you have

452
00:21:44,080 --> 00:21:49,840
to be is that the the problem
is, is that you're also trying

453
00:21:49,840 --> 00:21:54,200
to sort of damage control like
society as a.

454
00:21:54,200 --> 00:21:57,120
Whole so I think.
That's very, very difficult to

455
00:21:57,120 --> 00:21:59,000
say.
OK, we're going to close the

456
00:21:59,000 --> 00:22:01,120
stock market, OK.
We're going to do this, We're

457
00:22:01,120 --> 00:22:03,680
going to do this, We're going to
do all these things which you

458
00:22:03,680 --> 00:22:10,920
know, materially affect, you
know, millions of people and

459
00:22:10,920 --> 00:22:12,400
they've all got personal
opinions.

460
00:22:12,400 --> 00:22:16,360
And and when my opinion is that
you're keeping me from feeding

461
00:22:16,360 --> 00:22:19,560
my family.
I think you're wrong.

462
00:22:20,640 --> 00:22:22,000
Yeah.
And that's where and that's

463
00:22:22,080 --> 00:22:24,480
that's where that's where the
rubber meets the road and you

464
00:22:24,480 --> 00:22:27,680
have to figure out, well, I've
either got to figure out a way

465
00:22:27,680 --> 00:22:34,400
to convince you that well, at
least your family's alive or.

466
00:22:34,400 --> 00:22:36,440
No, exactly.
I've got to be able to wait to

467
00:22:36,440 --> 00:22:38,800
take care of them or, you know,
in some particular manner.

468
00:22:38,800 --> 00:22:41,760
I mean there's, you know for
sure, it's just wow.

469
00:22:42,040 --> 00:22:45,800
And this is coming right after
we had the 2008 crisis where

470
00:22:45,800 --> 00:22:49,000
there was, you know, I mean,
let's trust the banks.

471
00:22:50,000 --> 00:22:51,520
Oh, gosh, yeah.
And then we're.

472
00:22:51,520 --> 00:22:54,640
Trusting the pharmaceutical,
it's these, the multinationals

473
00:22:54,680 --> 00:22:57,080
are just seem to be in control
of the world.

474
00:22:57,160 --> 00:23:00,920
And nobody was arrested after
2008 either, which was that was

475
00:23:00,920 --> 00:23:02,400
abysmal.
That was abysmal.

476
00:23:02,920 --> 00:23:04,760
I I think it was.
Just nobody was prosecuted and

477
00:23:04,760 --> 00:23:07,640
brought to trial was absolutely
ridiculous.

478
00:23:08,000 --> 00:23:11,320
Yeah, I I I blame.
I blame the Fed.

479
00:23:12,360 --> 00:23:15,160
I blame the whole banking agency
as a whole to play in the

480
00:23:15,160 --> 00:23:17,280
Department of Justice.
And the executive they.

481
00:23:17,320 --> 00:23:20,800
Did not target anyone and go
after them and say the reason

482
00:23:20,800 --> 00:23:24,760
these mortgages happen this way
and the reason this happened is

483
00:23:24,760 --> 00:23:28,600
because you, the people that we
need to bail out, gave away

484
00:23:28,600 --> 00:23:33,000
money and you didn't validate
whether or not these things

485
00:23:33,000 --> 00:23:34,600
happen.
And then you can say, well, the

486
00:23:34,600 --> 00:23:36,160
regulations.
And it's like, well, the

487
00:23:36,160 --> 00:23:37,840
regulations say you can shoot
your mother.

488
00:23:37,840 --> 00:23:39,680
You going to do it?
Come on.

489
00:23:40,320 --> 00:23:43,160
Well, they also lied.
They were disguised as B bonds

490
00:23:43,720 --> 00:23:47,480
and it's like they lied and and
nobody was held accountable for

491
00:23:47,480 --> 00:23:48,400
it.
Yeah, that's true.

492
00:23:48,400 --> 00:23:50,600
Nobody was held accountable for
it and they were just given

493
00:23:50,600 --> 00:23:51,160
money.
They were.

494
00:23:51,160 --> 00:23:53,840
They were held accountable
financially.

495
00:23:54,600 --> 00:23:55,880
Yeah.
That's it.

496
00:23:55,880 --> 00:23:58,920
Like Moody's was fine because
they gave you all these

497
00:23:59,080 --> 00:24:01,360
investment grade bonds and
you're like, well how can it be

498
00:24:01,360 --> 00:24:05,160
investment grade when 10% of the
tranche which is the with the

499
00:24:05,280 --> 00:24:10,440
you know one tranche of it is,
is triple B and all the rest is

500
00:24:10,440 --> 00:24:12,240
triple shit?
Yeah, exactly.

501
00:24:12,680 --> 00:24:14,200
Doesn't make any sense.
Yeah.

502
00:24:15,040 --> 00:24:16,320
No that.
It is sad.

503
00:24:16,360 --> 00:24:16,840
It is sad.
I.

504
00:24:16,880 --> 00:24:17,680
Mean.
It was ridiculous.

505
00:24:17,680 --> 00:24:20,600
We saw so many failings there in
the banking industry.

506
00:24:20,600 --> 00:24:24,640
We saw it again with Silicon
Valley when the head and no one

507
00:24:24,640 --> 00:24:26,720
said anything about it.
The head of the San Francisco

508
00:24:26,720 --> 00:24:30,640
Fed was actually the president
of Silicon Valley Bank.

509
00:24:30,640 --> 00:24:33,880
So he's the guy that's supposed
to make sure everything's good

510
00:24:34,200 --> 00:24:38,640
and his bank goes under and no
one says, hey dude, isn't that

511
00:24:38,640 --> 00:24:40,840
the head regulator for the whole
East Coast?

512
00:24:40,840 --> 00:24:42,880
The whole West Coast?
And no one says no.

513
00:24:42,880 --> 00:24:45,720
No one talks anything.
He quits quietly that Friday and

514
00:24:45,720 --> 00:24:47,920
gets a $10 million severance
package.

515
00:24:47,920 --> 00:24:50,960
And you're like, Oh my gosh.
He sorry.

516
00:24:51,120 --> 00:24:53,480
No.
Yeah, that's a You can't do

517
00:24:53,480 --> 00:24:55,440
that.
No, no.

518
00:24:55,440 --> 00:24:57,920
Why would you trust?
Why would you trust the banking

519
00:24:57,920 --> 00:24:59,440
people when they do stuff like
that?

520
00:24:59,440 --> 00:25:01,120
And why would you trust
pharmaceutical companies?

521
00:25:01,120 --> 00:25:02,600
Do they do it?
Especially that.

522
00:25:03,360 --> 00:25:04,160
I'm.
I'm pissed off.

523
00:25:04,160 --> 00:25:06,000
Trust Pfizer.
Oh yeah.

524
00:25:06,560 --> 00:25:09,200
Well, yeah, I bought a bunch of
them a couple of years ago and

525
00:25:09,200 --> 00:25:12,120
they were doing really, really,
really, really well as long as

526
00:25:12,120 --> 00:25:15,200
you people got sick and you
stopped getting sick.

527
00:25:15,200 --> 00:25:16,760
And I know.
You know and now well.

528
00:25:16,760 --> 00:25:21,160
People now don't believe that
the the what is the boosters?

529
00:25:21,400 --> 00:25:22,440
Yeah.
They're like, well, already,

530
00:25:22,440 --> 00:25:25,240
yeah, I that's how I feel too.
I mean, like after my last one

531
00:25:25,240 --> 00:25:26,840
of my, I think I'm gonna have a
stroke.

532
00:25:26,840 --> 00:25:29,800
Oh, I was.
Telling you, oh, go ahead, your

533
00:25:29,800 --> 00:25:30,480
stroke.
What was it?

534
00:25:30,560 --> 00:25:33,880
Oh, that was like 2 years ago
when I got the last booster.

535
00:25:34,840 --> 00:25:36,720
Yeah.
And I was like, they can't do

536
00:25:36,720 --> 00:25:38,800
this anymore, 'cause they, I was
reading online.

537
00:25:38,800 --> 00:25:40,440
They're like, yeah, if you feel
like you're having a stroke, you

538
00:25:40,440 --> 00:25:42,760
probably shouldn't get it.
I'm like, yeah, yeah, no, shut.

539
00:25:42,760 --> 00:25:46,120
They're like.
That was your second or third

540
00:25:46,120 --> 00:25:50,120
booster. 2nd.
Yeah, I think I did second or

541
00:25:50,120 --> 00:25:51,880
third.
'Cause I needed to go for

542
00:25:51,880 --> 00:25:54,320
school.
I think I needed at least one or

543
00:25:54,400 --> 00:25:55,720
two.
Yeah, it was one.

544
00:25:55,720 --> 00:25:56,760
You're.
Right, you needed two.

545
00:25:57,000 --> 00:25:58,320
Yeah.
Oh, I needed to that.

546
00:25:58,320 --> 00:25:59,520
I think that was up to the
second one.

547
00:25:59,600 --> 00:26:00,880
That was the second one then,
yeah.

548
00:26:00,880 --> 00:26:02,920
And you were really sick for
quite some time.

549
00:26:02,960 --> 00:26:06,880
Yeah, five days.
I got my last one.

550
00:26:07,560 --> 00:26:10,960
I got my booster maybe five or
six months ago.

551
00:26:11,000 --> 00:26:12,240
Four months ago.
What?

552
00:26:12,280 --> 00:26:13,080
What?
What month is it?

553
00:26:13,080 --> 00:26:15,760
February.
I got it in November.

554
00:26:15,920 --> 00:26:17,600
Oh, you still got a note.
Which one is that?

555
00:26:17,720 --> 00:26:18,840
What number one is that?
It's.

556
00:26:19,040 --> 00:26:22,440
Like 4 oh wow.
And I got that.

557
00:26:22,440 --> 00:26:27,320
And now since then I I developed
ringing in my ears.

558
00:26:27,760 --> 00:26:32,320
I mean very quickly, like, jeez,
when it's quiet, I can hear.

559
00:26:32,680 --> 00:26:35,160
I can hear like this little
ringing in my ears.

560
00:26:36,040 --> 00:26:39,600
And so I I text the audiologist
and I go, that was my

561
00:26:39,640 --> 00:26:42,840
audiologist that got me my
hearing aids, which I don't wear

562
00:26:43,200 --> 00:26:47,720
and they cost a lot to sit in
the in the count anyway.

563
00:26:48,920 --> 00:26:50,400
Oh, it's a real common side
effect.

564
00:26:52,680 --> 00:26:56,160
And I was just like, hold it,
you mean you hear ringing.

565
00:26:56,360 --> 00:27:00,040
It's tinnitus or tinnitus.
Yeah, it's something like that.

566
00:27:00,040 --> 00:27:01,440
It's something.
It's not tinnitus.

567
00:27:01,440 --> 00:27:02,840
It's something very close to
that.

568
00:27:02,840 --> 00:27:03,880
I don't know how to pronounce
it.

569
00:27:04,520 --> 00:27:09,760
And I said it was a very common
side effect for vaccines and I

570
00:27:09,760 --> 00:27:13,400
was just like really, well,
interesting.

571
00:27:13,520 --> 00:27:15,480
I never.
No vaccine I've ever gotten,

572
00:27:15,480 --> 00:27:17,000
I've had.
And the weird thing is I asked

573
00:27:17,000 --> 00:27:19,080
the wife and she said Oh yeah, I
had it for about 6 months and it

574
00:27:19,080 --> 00:27:21,080
went away.
Six months.

575
00:27:22,200 --> 00:27:23,640
Wouldn't you think that you
would?

576
00:27:24,200 --> 00:27:26,040
I guess you'd think you're kind
of crazy when you hear it,

577
00:27:26,720 --> 00:27:28,800
'cause you like when you hear
noise going on all the time when

578
00:27:28,800 --> 00:27:32,800
nothing's happening.
Yeah, like, where is that coming

579
00:27:32,800 --> 00:27:34,680
from?
Yeah, well, you're you're,

580
00:27:34,680 --> 00:27:38,920
you're and you wonder if it's
like, remember we had the ghost

581
00:27:38,920 --> 00:27:41,280
upstairs in the house?
Yeah, yeah.

582
00:27:41,280 --> 00:27:43,480
I've woke up many times to this
end of the radio.

583
00:27:43,960 --> 00:27:44,880
Yeah.
Yeah.

584
00:27:45,040 --> 00:27:47,080
And the baseball game, Ball
game, right.

585
00:27:47,240 --> 00:27:51,560
Baseball game on the radio.
But I didn't have a radio and

586
00:27:57,800 --> 00:27:58,560
and you would hear.
All this?

587
00:27:58,560 --> 00:28:01,920
Yeah, that's what it's.
It just it was just quiet enough

588
00:28:01,920 --> 00:28:03,320
that you couldn't make out what
they said.

589
00:28:03,560 --> 00:28:04,640
And then when you woke up,
you're like, what?

590
00:28:04,640 --> 00:28:06,160
What was that?
Yeah, what was that?

591
00:28:06,160 --> 00:28:08,520
It's strange.
It's strange that we heard it

592
00:28:08,520 --> 00:28:10,560
too apart, like 10 years apart
or something.

593
00:28:10,560 --> 00:28:12,280
And and the wife heard it too.
She said.

594
00:28:12,280 --> 00:28:15,680
Oh yeah, the the baseball game.
And then Holden Holden knew

595
00:28:15,680 --> 00:28:16,960
about it.
Oh, wow.

596
00:28:17,200 --> 00:28:18,800
Who lived in the house before
us?

597
00:28:20,000 --> 00:28:22,200
So whatever.
I mean, you know, hey, now we're

598
00:28:22,200 --> 00:28:24,000
talking about ghosts.
From COVID to ghosts.

599
00:28:24,400 --> 00:28:27,480
And I mean, I've seen stuff,
I've seen apparitions in the

600
00:28:27,480 --> 00:28:29,400
house, but.
Apparitions.

601
00:28:29,400 --> 00:28:31,600
Good word good good word usage
right there.

602
00:28:31,600 --> 00:28:32,400
Wow.
Wow.

603
00:28:32,480 --> 00:28:35,160
The thing is, you, you and you
never know if it's sunlight or

604
00:28:35,160 --> 00:28:36,680
anything.
You walk into a room and you see

605
00:28:36,680 --> 00:28:39,200
some movement over here and it
could be just the light doing

606
00:28:39,200 --> 00:28:41,520
it.
Why it never did that before.

607
00:28:41,520 --> 00:28:43,640
The 300 times you walked in the
room, you don't know.

608
00:28:43,920 --> 00:28:46,400
Maybe you hit the right, just
the light just right that one

609
00:28:46,400 --> 00:28:50,560
time and that made it go.
Or you look down the hallway at

610
00:28:50,640 --> 00:28:53,240
where your room is.
Before we built that, that

611
00:28:53,680 --> 00:28:57,600
section out there was the whole
room standing in the hallway.

612
00:28:58,120 --> 00:29:00,320
Wow.
I honestly wonder if that has to

613
00:29:00,320 --> 00:29:03,520
do with the false like or no
like memory.

614
00:29:03,520 --> 00:29:06,000
Because I remember seeing the
cat too, like, crawling on the

615
00:29:06,000 --> 00:29:08,160
bed.
Like, I don't know, like seeing

616
00:29:08,160 --> 00:29:10,520
the cat crawl on the bed and
then like the cat's gone like in

617
00:29:10,520 --> 00:29:12,400
the dark.
It's like, weird.

618
00:29:12,400 --> 00:29:14,160
Yeah.
Like, I don't know if that might

619
00:29:14,160 --> 00:29:15,040
have.
Been having a dream.

620
00:29:15,040 --> 00:29:16,400
And then you were not.
You were just.

621
00:29:16,400 --> 00:29:17,440
Dreaming.
No, no, I was awake.

622
00:29:17,440 --> 00:29:19,120
But I think it has to do with,
like, you know, how when you

623
00:29:19,120 --> 00:29:23,840
walk through doorways and how
doorways for human beings, like,

624
00:29:23,840 --> 00:29:27,320
we remember things when we
crossed through those doorways.

625
00:29:27,840 --> 00:29:29,160
Threshold.
Yeah.

626
00:29:29,200 --> 00:29:29,840
There we go.
Yeah.

627
00:29:30,400 --> 00:29:33,280
And yeah, I think it has
something to do with that.

628
00:29:33,440 --> 00:29:36,040
You're you're really nailing it.
Mr. Dictionary Head over there

629
00:29:36,360 --> 00:29:39,320
Dictionary brain man.
But I think it has something to

630
00:29:39,320 --> 00:29:41,120
do with the threshold.
Wikipedia.

631
00:29:41,880 --> 00:29:43,760
Yeah, you have to.
Yeah.

632
00:29:44,320 --> 00:29:48,480
I met a guy that does the wiki
stuff at Sundance.

633
00:29:48,480 --> 00:29:51,800
Actually, that was pretty cool.
Yeah, he's one of the the

634
00:29:51,800 --> 00:29:53,880
programmers.
Yep.

635
00:29:54,600 --> 00:29:55,640
Interesting.
Oh, wow.

636
00:29:55,720 --> 00:30:00,760
Yeah, so that's cool, dude.
Oh, do you have anything else on

637
00:30:00,760 --> 00:30:02,560
COVID?
Oh yeah, I got lots.

638
00:30:02,640 --> 00:30:03,600
Let's keep going.
Let's keep.

639
00:30:03,640 --> 00:30:09,480
I think about all the different
stuff that kind of like, I mean

640
00:30:10,080 --> 00:30:12,320
what would you.
I think they need to do.

641
00:30:13,280 --> 00:30:14,440
I would love to see an
assessment.

642
00:30:14,440 --> 00:30:15,800
It's like what will we do
differently?

643
00:30:15,920 --> 00:30:17,640
Well, we would have a we would
have a book.

644
00:30:18,680 --> 00:30:23,880
I I I was, I was very pissed off
that they were selling COVID

645
00:30:23,880 --> 00:30:26,800
materials to the States.
Oh.

646
00:30:27,280 --> 00:30:29,480
Yeah, but that to me was like
hold.

647
00:30:29,640 --> 00:30:30,960
On.
Hold on.

648
00:30:30,960 --> 00:30:33,960
The tax dollars paid for that
you don't give to you don't get

649
00:30:33,960 --> 00:30:35,040
to.
Give them to the states that

650
00:30:35,040 --> 00:30:38,360
voted for you and.
So that was, yeah, that was.

651
00:30:38,480 --> 00:30:40,840
Very sleazy, you know.
And they.

652
00:30:41,040 --> 00:30:50,120
Said there was somewhere around
2.3 or was it 230 billion that

653
00:30:50,120 --> 00:30:53,600
of the supplies and the monies
that changed hands, but there

654
00:30:53,600 --> 00:30:57,000
wasn't any record.
You know, it's kind of like the

655
00:30:57,000 --> 00:30:59,560
Iraq war when we went there in
the beginning and we they

656
00:30:59,560 --> 00:31:03,240
literally had pallets of money
that they just gave away and

657
00:31:03,240 --> 00:31:05,720
they had no record of who they
gave it to or what it was used

658
00:31:05,760 --> 00:31:09,080
for or anything.
Never seen the The Vice movie

659
00:31:09,080 --> 00:31:11,440
with Christian Bale where he
plays Dick Cheney.

660
00:31:12,720 --> 00:31:14,840
No.
Oh, so good.

661
00:31:15,080 --> 00:31:17,480
So, so good.
Yeah, it it showed how Dick

662
00:31:17,480 --> 00:31:21,480
Cheney got executive power over
Bush from the vice presidential

663
00:31:21,480 --> 00:31:22,760
position.
Yeah.

664
00:31:22,760 --> 00:31:26,800
And how Halliburton stock rose
300% from the time that we

665
00:31:26,800 --> 00:31:30,240
invaded a rock until like, yeah,
it was funny movie was made in

666
00:31:30,240 --> 00:31:32,760
2015.
Hugely a money grab.

667
00:31:33,000 --> 00:31:34,200
Yeah.
You know.

668
00:31:34,200 --> 00:31:35,600
But that was a really good
movie.

669
00:31:35,600 --> 00:31:38,960
Really well.
You look at Blackwater was a

670
00:31:39,160 --> 00:31:42,000
small little podunk organization
and then it became a

671
00:31:42,000 --> 00:31:43,920
multinational.
No, exactly.

672
00:31:44,000 --> 00:31:47,200
And then it had dirt throat on
it because they murdered

673
00:31:47,200 --> 00:31:51,520
civilians and then they changed
the name to, you know, I don't

674
00:31:51,520 --> 00:31:54,040
know, Altria.
Oh no, that's the cigarette

675
00:31:54,040 --> 00:31:55,520
company that did that.
Yes.

676
00:31:55,680 --> 00:31:58,480
Philip Morris.
No, no, that's Facebook.

677
00:31:58,480 --> 00:32:01,360
They when they get in deep shit,
they change their name and

678
00:32:01,360 --> 00:32:04,560
change their brand.
Like truest, truest banks who

679
00:32:04,560 --> 00:32:07,280
were Wells Fargo, right.
Wells Fargo branded as Truest.

680
00:32:07,280 --> 00:32:09,520
Not Wells Fargo, that was.
It wasn't Wells Fargo.

681
00:32:09,520 --> 00:32:11,600
SunTrust.
Oh, SunTrust.

682
00:32:11,960 --> 00:32:13,000
SunTrust.
SunTrust.

683
00:32:13,040 --> 00:32:14,840
They were they were filthy
dirty.

684
00:32:14,840 --> 00:32:16,920
They were.
They were dirtier than Wells

685
00:32:16,920 --> 00:32:21,000
Fargo at at the peak.
I mean they did stuff like they

686
00:32:21,000 --> 00:32:22,840
did all the front running of
your checks.

687
00:32:23,440 --> 00:32:28,080
Like say for instance you got
paid $400.00 on Tuesday and say

688
00:32:28,080 --> 00:32:32,640
for instance you had a check for
and you got you got $300.00 in

689
00:32:32,640 --> 00:32:39,280
your account right now you got a
check for 10:50, a 150 and you

690
00:32:39,280 --> 00:32:42,040
got another check for 400.
The $400.00 check came in at the

691
00:32:42,040 --> 00:32:44,760
end, right?
What they do is they would run

692
00:32:44,760 --> 00:32:48,160
the $400.00 check first so all
the others would bounce.

693
00:32:48,160 --> 00:32:53,120
So they check collect 5 bounce
fees and then they would double

694
00:32:53,120 --> 00:32:56,320
run them to get a double bounce
fee or triple run them to get a

695
00:32:56,320 --> 00:32:59,240
triple bounce fee.
So then all of a sudden you

696
00:32:59,240 --> 00:33:01,160
were, you were you're just
barely getting by.

697
00:33:01,360 --> 00:33:07,160
Now you owe the bank $800.
And you're like, you're like of

698
00:33:07,600 --> 00:33:12,680
all the things in the world that
I think that that are to me the

699
00:33:12,720 --> 00:33:18,560
worst thing you can do is to set
out to do policies and

700
00:33:18,560 --> 00:33:22,120
procedures that screw the little
guy.

701
00:33:22,680 --> 00:33:25,000
And I think that and that, I
mean that happened, that

702
00:33:25,000 --> 00:33:26,720
happened with, that happened
with COVID.

703
00:33:27,240 --> 00:33:32,480
I mean, we have relatives that
needed COVID money, should have

704
00:33:32,480 --> 00:33:35,400
gotten COVID money because they
were running businesses.

705
00:33:35,720 --> 00:33:40,920
They were frozen out and they
couldn't get any loans because

706
00:33:40,920 --> 00:33:44,160
people like, what the heck was
the Midwest one?

707
00:33:44,600 --> 00:33:46,240
There's a Ritz Carlton and a few
others.

708
00:33:46,240 --> 00:33:50,040
What they did is they they took
all of the hotels and they made

709
00:33:50,040 --> 00:33:52,680
them LP's.
So each one was an individual

710
00:33:52,680 --> 00:33:55,480
entity which was under the size
that you could apply for a loan.

711
00:33:55,880 --> 00:33:57,960
So then they would go in and
they would all get loans.

712
00:33:58,000 --> 00:34:00,680
And guess what?
When Ritz Carlton goes to, and I

713
00:34:00,680 --> 00:34:03,680
don't know if it's Ritz Carlton,
it's a it was a it was a big

714
00:34:03,960 --> 00:34:08,320
hotel company when they go to,
and I think Starbucks got money

715
00:34:08,560 --> 00:34:11,040
when they go to the bank.
I do remember that.

716
00:34:11,040 --> 00:34:13,520
When they go to the bank.
When they go to the bank, guess

717
00:34:13,520 --> 00:34:16,679
what the bank gives them, brings
them to the front of the line.

718
00:34:17,560 --> 00:34:20,239
So all you people out there that
have four people working for

719
00:34:20,239 --> 00:34:25,679
you, they took your money, they
got the free money and it was

720
00:34:26,000 --> 00:34:29,719
literally free money.
You had to fill out the loan,

721
00:34:29,719 --> 00:34:34,040
processing the proper paperwork.
And immediately everybody that

722
00:34:34,040 --> 00:34:37,159
thought about it was like, wow,
all we got to do is let's say

723
00:34:37,159 --> 00:34:41,040
for instance, we got, we got 100
locations, we just set up each

724
00:34:41,040 --> 00:34:45,600
location as an LP, which you can
do for like 80 bucks online.

725
00:34:46,560 --> 00:34:48,199
So you immediately set up an
LLP.

726
00:34:48,199 --> 00:34:51,000
And then each one's its own
entity, which is under the

727
00:34:51,120 --> 00:34:55,360
revenue cap to apply for a loan,
has under the amount of

728
00:34:55,360 --> 00:34:58,360
employees to apply for a loan.
So every single franchise of

729
00:34:58,360 --> 00:35:01,520
McDonald's could file for it,
but if McDonald's itself

730
00:35:01,520 --> 00:35:04,680
couldn't.
That's the same as they.

731
00:35:04,680 --> 00:35:09,840
Did you know and so it's like
that's just, I I mean I would

732
00:35:09,840 --> 00:35:12,720
say that.
It's a better man.

733
00:35:13,560 --> 00:35:16,760
Oh yeah, yeah, without a doubt.
It to me as far as business

734
00:35:16,760 --> 00:35:20,760
goes, that to me is you know and
you got to say, well we, you

735
00:35:20,760 --> 00:35:24,800
know, we win by the rules.
Well, you know what, sorry, no

736
00:35:25,360 --> 00:35:28,040
if you didn't need the money
because these people were were

737
00:35:28,040 --> 00:35:30,200
making a lot of money.
And the whole stimulus check

738
00:35:30,200 --> 00:35:31,520
thing too, yeah.
Right.

739
00:35:31,560 --> 00:35:35,960
They survived well, but the
small people couldn't get money.

740
00:35:36,200 --> 00:35:38,760
No, exactly.
Well, I think automatically when

741
00:35:38,760 --> 00:35:42,600
you see that the government's
going to do something to help

742
00:35:42,600 --> 00:35:45,760
the little guy, you see all of
these large corporations invest

743
00:35:45,760 --> 00:35:48,400
millions of dollars and how
they're going to get that money

744
00:35:48,400 --> 00:35:51,680
right from the little guy every
single time.

745
00:35:51,840 --> 00:35:54,360
And they see a big bucket of a
trillion dollars.

746
00:35:54,360 --> 00:35:56,320
I mean it's the same thing
happened in a way when they were

747
00:35:56,320 --> 00:35:59,680
talking about the big buyout
then for the banks, if they

748
00:35:59,680 --> 00:36:02,600
would have just taken the money
and not given it to the banks

749
00:36:03,200 --> 00:36:07,240
and just gave everybody, you
know, 100 grand towards their

750
00:36:07,240 --> 00:36:08,440
mortgage.
Yeah.

751
00:36:08,960 --> 00:36:11,240
Would have saved everybody.
You wouldn't have seen a rabbit

752
00:36:11,240 --> 00:36:15,480
would have almost spent.
Here immediately and but the

753
00:36:15,480 --> 00:36:17,680
banks wouldn't have been more
powerful and the banks would

754
00:36:17,680 --> 00:36:21,320
have suffered the consequences
for actually making the problem

755
00:36:21,320 --> 00:36:24,280
in the 1st place.
No banker got in trouble for

756
00:36:24,280 --> 00:36:26,160
that.
And they'll argue, oh, it was

757
00:36:26,160 --> 00:36:28,720
Clinton.
Oh, it was it was Reagan.

758
00:36:28,920 --> 00:36:31,560
Oh, it was Bush.
No, no.

759
00:36:32,760 --> 00:36:35,200
It was the lobbyists and the
regulators making the rules

760
00:36:35,200 --> 00:36:38,400
looser and looser so they could
do stuff that they could get

761
00:36:38,400 --> 00:36:41,280
away with and make more money at
it, without a doubt, and make it

762
00:36:41,280 --> 00:36:44,600
more risk and then dump the risk
on to the American public.

763
00:36:44,760 --> 00:36:47,160
And that's what that's what the
banks do, and they will continue

764
00:36:47,160 --> 00:36:47,800
to do that.
They're not.

765
00:36:47,800 --> 00:36:50,040
And The thing is, is that the
regulator's gotta.

766
00:36:51,120 --> 00:36:53,360
They fight that every day.
No, they do.

767
00:36:53,760 --> 00:36:56,640
You know, I mean, you see it,
you see it all the time, 100%.

768
00:36:56,640 --> 00:36:57,920
Really.
It's like.

769
00:36:58,040 --> 00:36:59,120
Wow.
I think we're coming up on our

770
00:36:59,120 --> 00:36:59,920
time here, though.
Oh.

771
00:37:00,560 --> 00:37:02,600
I see 10 minutes.
I don't see like a countdown do.

772
00:37:02,600 --> 00:37:04,720
You.
No, no, We're at about a minute

773
00:37:04,720 --> 00:37:05,880
and 30 left here.
So I think.

774
00:37:05,880 --> 00:37:08,520
We're gonna wrap up, OK?
That's funny that you don't get

775
00:37:08,520 --> 00:37:11,160
the the clock 'cause I have the
clock, I guess it's only for the

776
00:37:11,680 --> 00:37:14,480
the cool people that host the
the the meeting, right?

777
00:37:14,680 --> 00:37:17,480
Well, you have a cute one.
Another great conversation and

778
00:37:18,320 --> 00:37:22,320
reach out to us on a record of
myfather.com and we also have AQ

779
00:37:22,320 --> 00:37:25,240
and a section in the Spotify.
You guys wanna ask us any

780
00:37:25,240 --> 00:37:27,440
questions or have any topics
that you wanna talk about?

781
00:37:27,440 --> 00:37:30,840
Do you have any ending words
here on our final little

782
00:37:30,840 --> 00:37:33,080
remaining time?
COVID sucks.

783
00:37:35,000 --> 00:37:36,240
What's gonna happen at the next
one?

784
00:37:36,680 --> 00:37:39,120
I have a feeling that we're
going to have another pandemic

785
00:37:39,120 --> 00:37:41,560
in the next five years.
I wouldn't be surprised.

786
00:37:41,760 --> 00:37:43,400
I.
Just I feel like something's

787
00:37:43,400 --> 00:37:46,640
going to happen again and it's
going to be more devastating.

788
00:37:47,640 --> 00:37:51,560
And on that happy note, we hope
that you have a wonderful week

789
00:37:51,560 --> 00:37:54,520
ahead of you and that this
podcast helps you get through

790
00:37:54,520 --> 00:37:55,640
it.
Oh, and.

791
00:37:56,160 --> 00:37:58,480
Bet on the Super Bowl cause one
of them's going to win.

792
00:37:59,000 --> 00:38:00,520
Yeah, do that.
All right.

793
00:38:00,680 --> 00:38:01,440
Bye bye party on.