Feb. 3, 2023
Child Hood Vacations- Hungry Mother State Park
Please join us on this week's episode which is about stories about my father's childhood vacations in Hungry Mother State Park. These vacations that he would take every summer were eventually realized to be the separation of two different families and more secrets that he would discover years later. This week's episode is captivating and a true look into my dad's profound childhood experience!
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You going to say hello?
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So say it now actually.
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We can edit it.
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Yeah, welcome back to another
episode of a record of my
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father.
Today, we're going to be talking
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about childhood vacations and
what those look like, both in my
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life.
And also, in my, my Dad's life.
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What was an example of a
vacation, when you were kid, Oh
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me, I for me.
My biggest memory of childhood
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childhood vacations was the
first one.
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I remember we took was probably
like 67 so I was like, seven,
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eight years old.
We would go down to Hungry
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mother State Park, which is down
near Mary in Virginia.
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And my mother's relatives live
down there, it's very odd
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because we would hit the first
time we would doubt.
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It was me my sister and two
brothers, and my mother and my
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father stayed home too.
Watch the house.
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Which we'll get into that later
or the dog or whatever.
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The hell it was.
Anyway, we went down there.
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We'd stay there a week you could
rent.
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You could literally rent a, what
do you call it?
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A cabin for about 100 bucks for
a week that it was like, really,
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it's still pretty cheap to rent.
I think it is to be to rent
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hotels like that.
I mean cabins, they still have
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heat, they running water you.
You you cook on a stove so they
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have gas and they have a
fireplace and stuff like that.
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And it's a great place to take a
bunch of kids and go there, we
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climbed the mountain there,
there's a mountaineer called
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Molly's knob and it was named
after this, Indian lady that ran
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away from being tortured by
white men, climb the mountain or
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something like that.
It was, you know, they had a big
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lake there, we used to Grant
paddle boats and and then we
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would horseback ride.
And then we visit mostly what we
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do is visit relatives or invite
relatives out, you know, a lot
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of a row.
Elves lived in the Marion Area,
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and they would come down or they
wouldn't, you know, depending
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upon there's a whole lot of
fang, Li family angst, and
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strife over, who was more of an
asshole in the other person and
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stuff like that, we were
younger.
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So we always kind of dealt with
that, you know, it was it was
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very, very different.
What do you mean by different?
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Well, it's very, very different.
I think that I think that that
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part of it, you know the fact
that we never went on a vacation
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with my father.
Never, he never went to this
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state park.
No, not even one time, while not
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want to.
And and you think there's a
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reason for that, right?
There's got to be some reason,
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what we found out years later
and When I'm at my new
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stepsister, I guess you would
call her.
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She's 72, she's older.
She's from his second marriage.
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He actually met her in the
mid-60s.
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She stopped and said hi to him
and because they were worried
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that he was going to come back
and and do things, you know.
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So and they technically weren't
divorced.
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So she's older than you were.
Yeah.
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She's got ya by like 50.
Years over 50 years old and my
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brother by largely you know,
she's mid 70s now.
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God, but I mean sweet lady, nice
because you and open it.
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There's no she was in the
Fairfax County School System.
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She was a teacher for 35 years,
she know she came back and was
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weak mad and we talked about
that.
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And so yeah, I was down there in
67.
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I saw him at the Bob's Big Boy
and all this and you're just
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thinking, like, weird, you know,
but you know, I mean you meet a
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relative, you never knew you,
you kind of thought you had One,
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but you weren't sure and then
you meet them.
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And then that's the thing.
And this is about my vacations
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as a child, right?
Anyway.
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Anyway.
Think well, yeah, she was
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pushing them to sign the divorce
papers and 67.
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He signed the divorce papers.
So there was definitely a
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separation from him and her
mother.
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And she, we were born.
And I was born in the 50s.
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So then my mother and father got
married in the late 60s, the
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dressing.
I can't.
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Yeah.
Yeah, that.
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Well how did you how did you
figure out this woman?
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Was your sister.
How did you?
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Initially because you've I'm
assuming you found that out much
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later on.
Oh yeah.
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No, no.
I kinda knew that we had a
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sister somewhere but then my
brother died and she when he
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died his obituary.
She saw his obituary in his
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father and she came up with
that.
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She was like, oh my God and she
reached out she reached out to
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me and I was like, wow, this is
weird and she you know, and I
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said, I knew that he had two
previous marriages and I knew
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they had a kid.
Here there but I had know how
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the hell you gonna track down.
Somebody named Brown shit.
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Yeah.
You just can't, you can't do
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that.
There's it's a lifelong thing,
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but it was some cool shit out of
the Woodworks.
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Is really nice loves dogs animal
person, just wonderful stuff.
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Anyway, that was just from the
death of your brother, she
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figured that out.
Yeah, yeah.
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How did she?
Did she say that like, how she
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figured that out?
It was a just, just like, well,
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weirdly.
She must have had some kind of
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alert.
Ah, dad would be proud.
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Bud Tudor be a third, or
whatever the hell else.
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Do you know my father's day?
Because I'm sure in the Fairfax
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County area, they number of last
names that are brown.
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She knew that he lived in
Northern Virginia didn't aware,
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but Brown is brownie shit.
I mean once again you know
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there's there's it doesn't mean
anything am within a five mile
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radius of where I am.
There's probably six Phil Browns
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weird, believe it?
Yeah it's not it on.
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One of them is Phillip Lee which
is like really the hell does
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that There's somebody in order
to keep stealing your identity.
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God, we used to go down there.
We would hang out at the park.
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Sometimes we camp, you know,
they live in tents for a week
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but it was just you know, you
cook out every night.
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You cook over a fire every night
at dinner was like, really like
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hot dogs hamburgers.
No talking about a fun.
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I mean and you know, my mom
would leave us to sort of beat
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or own Meats.
Like we always stick mirrored
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home.
We were left to do whatever the
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hell we want to do pretty much.
About stay out of too much
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crime, or, you know, it didn't
matter.
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If you committed a crime, just
couldn't get caught, you know
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what we're good at.
And look down there.
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I remember that she had
relatives, come over and one was
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this guy named Max, and he would
come over, and he picked her up
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and took her and we left and
then later, I found out that
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that was her first husband.
Wow.
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Yeah.
They used to drop as of the park
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and then she would leave for
like the whole day's leave us at
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the park and it's like you're at
a national park and you can go
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hiking and walking, you can do
anything you want.
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There's no TV.
So what you gonna do?
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You gonna go outside?
You chop wood for this, there
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wasn't any wood but they, I mean
they had some big rounds of wood
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that you could shop so you can
make a fire and we would make
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fires because we're you know, we
could make far home.
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So what makes you so confident
that your These are all from
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your biological father.
What makes you confident?
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And then I mean, I have pictures
of when they were born when my
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parents.
Okay?
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That's okay, frankly, that's the
only reason why that I was just
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I thought that was a pretty good
question, a little bit, but it
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was a good question.
I mean that I mean, when you
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look at it, you look at the
pictures.
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Also, you look at the character,
not necessarily characteristics.
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As I think characteristics can
be taught, you know, you can,
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you know, you can develop
certain ticks that you're, you
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know, you're Adoptive parents
have picked or whatever the
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case, but mine were like, I
look.
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What is it?
My brother's spy, my one of my?
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Brother's, I look a lot like,
and I sound a lot like them, my
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sister, and my other brother
have many similar
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characteristics and they're also
like, there's a, you, there's a
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understanding or whatever it is.
I don't know.
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You know, when you're younger,
you feel.
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I would say that.
All of you look smack like one
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another as well.
And that's that's very key, I
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think.
Yeah, and I'm looking at a
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family.
But what else, what else was
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hungry, mother State Park was
the number one?
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How many people like you're
saying a lot of?
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Well, there were, there's five
of us.
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Fucker in the beginning.
But then like the very next
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year, my brothers would go off
to Camp Goshen.
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So they went off at Camp Bastion
and there were scouting sounds a
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bit.
The cap think it was like 1354
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yeah they would go down to Camp
Goshen and stay there for a week
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and they went we would go and
that was our vacation and it was
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like it was really very neat.
We would always eat food that we
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never ate, we get like
peppermint candies and all this
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kind of stuff that we never had.
Home and you would save money.
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So you would have that
opportunity to spend stuff like,
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you know, you better not spent
that now because then you won't
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be able to ride a horse, when we
go down to Marion because, you
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know, my mom would pay for
certain stuff but I mean she was
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a gs1.
So you can't, you know, we're
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there was there were six people
living off six thousand dollars
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a year seven thousand years.
So we were, we were scraping
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Knuckles to get by, you know.
And that's the whole, you know,
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hunting for bottles and all that
kind of stuff like that.
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And everybody had a job.
All like paper boys and stuff
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like that.
So you would always save your
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little bit of money.
So when you went down there that
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you could buy a candy bar that
your brother couldn't buy your
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sister, couldn't bust, you could
eat it.
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Robin eliminates right and just
be a total shit because that's
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what kids do it is I have this
you don't know what's always a
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great story of my brother when
he went to work for a
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restaurant.
Any and he used to get a sub and
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he would come home, and my
mother asked him.
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And I remember we're all sitting
table.
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It's like why do?
You have to bring it home, to
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eat it.
Why can't you just eat it there?
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And then I bring it home, he
goes, well, you know, it tastes
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so much better when I bring it
home.
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Well, it's not when you he
brings it home, it's when he
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eats it in from the right.
He stood in front of his
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exactly.
That mean that was it, that was
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it.
So and I mean, when you think
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about that, it's like, when
somebody desires something and
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you have it and it's yours, it's
an especially when you're a
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little kid, I mean, he was what
15 minutes.
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So, you know, I have shit.
You don't know if I was that
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evil when I was 15 and I don't
think he's pretty fucking evil
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but uni of sibling, so it's
different but there's a photo of
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you in the house and no
providing Pony.
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Oh yeah.
Is that where that is?
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Is that?
No no no that pony, was it
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Potomac View Elementary School
they used to have like this
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Carnival down there and they had
a pony ride one year and I got
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on the ponies and have like six
of them or something and it was
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like a quarter nickel or
something like that, okay.
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A jumping on the pony and got a
picture.
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You know, I did I rode in
Southwest Virginia rode horses.
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I can still remember want to run
a palomino but they were like
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horses, he hopped on and they
knew the trail and you just sort
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of following them and their
Giant and maybe they weren't.
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That's every horse I ever room,
you know I was like free foot
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five then so you know, they
picked you up, put you on a
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thing.
You stay on this giant horse,
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you know and it just walk along
the trail and go along the
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mountains and stuff like that.
It was it was just wicked cool
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because shit you couldn't do
anywhere else.
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And also it's like that it's a
story that that other people
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would say like wow, you got to
ride a horse, you got to do
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this, you know what it's like
when your kid, those are the
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kind of things that you look for
to do to say that, you know,
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like your life is wonderful and
it differentiates you from other
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people and lives.
A lot of people look for that
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stuff.
I didn't kids in particular look
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for that because you're looking
for this validation is like wow
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you know my life is great until
you learn to self out
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self-validation.
Yeah.
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Well yeah, some Ever learn that
skill.
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That is true that some people
never learn do validate, but I
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will say that.
Um, yeah, no, I think it was
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kids specifically.
Yeah.
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Validation on places that
they've been or things that
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they've done.
Oh, gosh, a humongous.
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But that was, that was a very
singular moment as well.
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Like, you did not get these
vacations for your often.
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I don't want to at least see
your recollection once here.
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Yeah, yeah.
What a other than that, what do
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you do?
You remember anything later on
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you guys used to do?
I mean, The weird thing is that
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I don't try to remember.
We never had a vacation that
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wasn't down in Southwest
Virginia.
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I mean, my parents whole life
and never went like AA.
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Let's go to Ocean City or let's
go to Rehoboth or let's go to,
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you know, anywhere, let's go to
New York City.
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Let's go to, let's go to
Chicago, let's nothing, zero
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zilch, not gotcha, only there,
that was it.
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Hmm, and it was going out as
before 81.
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So he always took these little
back roads and it was always
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funny because it was six hours
to get there.
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And now it's like for my mother
would always get lost for hours.
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Yeah she would always get lost
at least once we got down to the
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Tasty Freeze and we all get
tasty fries, burgers.
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And it was like, just the most
amazing thing because when you
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eat, when you shitty food all
the time and you know poor
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people food You know, we need
that all the time and all of a
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sudden someone takes you like a
McDonald's or something.
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It's like, wow, it's a treat
because you can't afford that
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and that's not stuff that you do
every day and you do, the it's
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really really unusual and once a
year you would do this.
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So is so amazing to me.
If you get that like, wow, it
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was such a special tree, you
know.
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You look forward to it.
Oh yeah, yeah, if you would like
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any but you pick and choose
because you knew that you got,
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you got 75 cents.
What do you need?
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If you're not going to get,
you're not going to get them,
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you're going to have to get food
that you can fill you.
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And then you really just want
the milkshake.
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It's like, no, you can't do
that.
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You have to have a, you have to
eat like a burger thingy, you
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know?
In the burgers were like, whoa,
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no one kills burger.
Oh my gosh, it's on the grill.
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So it has, it has tomato and
lettuce and onion nothing.
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I mean, when you're a kid, we
didn't have that on, you know,
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you know, different not exactly.
You know, so that was kind of
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like, wow.
And going down there, we went to
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my head like gradient Majid
lived out, Chilhowie.
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We went to Chilhowie way.
I want to hear how chill alley.
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Well, that is where Mr. Theater
is, are you from your evil with
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all those a person you as an
actor should know this?
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It's where a lot of really go.
I know exactly what you're
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talking about.
It's a huge Shakespearean
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theater.
Right.
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Right.
No no no.
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It does a lot of different
plays, not only Shakespeare.
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It does change me of one.
I saw last shot right there.
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I saw Dracula there.
I saw a martyr thing.
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It's called barter theater.
Yeah, it's inch a powder jigna,
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the whole town closed down on
Sunday.
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Is there still blue laws down
here?
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You can't drink on suntory can't
buy beer on Sundays or whatever
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it is.
You have to go.
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We used to go out to the the
what was it?
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There was a trailer across the
state line that we would go with
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Bob and bye.
Bottle by jars.
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Mason jars of moonshine.
Why were you down there?
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That's what.
I don't know how when you were
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nine.
Okay.
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Yeah.
Okay guys I was like, it was
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like, we gotta get something to
drink someday, you know, you
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don't Pile in his truck and his
truck was like one of those old
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three Cedars.
And there was five of us in the
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front and we would go there and
it was and you would go and you
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put money in the front door.
And then, you know, you went
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around the corner to the to the
tree and it was in the hollow,
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the holler of the tree, you
know, when you pull it out and
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hold it up to the Sun that sun
shine through it, it was blue,
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black.
Nothing you ever saw hose?
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Blew it wasn't clear.
No, no it was you could see the
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Blue Sky.
Oh, this blue skies do clear.
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You know, what?
I remember going back to their
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house and pour in the a port, a
couple drinks and they gave my
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brothers, and they were like 11
at the time and they give him a
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like maybe a little bit.
Oh, God.
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They were, they were, they were
screwed up.
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It was funny.
I can't imagine.
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It's funny to watch because I
was like, seven, all I wanted,
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you know, but they're like, no,
you're you're already
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brain-dead.
They don't need to encourage
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that you're a brown.
I mean, yeah.
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Yeah.
We had a lot of Regulation,
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around the Mind goes.
Yeah, very little, it's so much
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fun.
So much time.
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Where is that in relation to the
the vacation spot.
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How a virgin.
So that would be about an hour
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and a half South down mouth.
So still we used to go To
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Pulaski is where she had her
brother lived and he was work
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for Coca-Cola Bottling for like
35 years.
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He's a truck driver and did that
let me stop there and stay the
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night.
And then we would go down to an
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area in Virginia and we had the
place there and then she had her
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other brother that lived across
and The heck was it West
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Bluefield Bluefield?
West Virginia he lived in a
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trailer park there, he owned the
trailer park, I think, and he
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would come across and visit us
there and bring his wife and it
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was just, you know, Hillbillies
reunite and I guess, you know,
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and then come back.
Yeah.
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Do keep in contact with any of
those, the bloodline, the the
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that man's daughters.
Daughter on Facebook friends
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with okay but that man is dead
and that means daughter's death
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and that means daughter's
daughter is someone who's a
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Facebook friend that I mean
Edwin linked up with her
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somehow.
He has been doing that recently.
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He's been saying about all these
peoples.
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Yeah, that's my oldest brother.
He does that.
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He's got this thing about
reaching into the past and
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understanding more and I'm just
sort of like, I think it's, I
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don't know, we're tracking out
these people and what they're up
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to.
Like, if I go back and look at
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friends of friends of friends,
and I think about that one
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person.
I'm at this one time when they
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be interesting to see what
they're doing now.
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Like, I think they are pretty
pretty fascinating, especially
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with how far you guys went back
and to see what those Those
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people are doing like 30 years
later God.
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Well, yeah, I mean, it's like
you go to your high school
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reunions.
See the people.
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There were like six.
They have an annual golfing
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tournament where you see him,
and I don't see him that often.
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And I mean, I hadn't seen him in
the high school was everything
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about the high school reunions,
golf, trip something like a
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decade.
You got you see what other kind
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of?
I mean that was that was the
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vacation we have we have that
every year and we would go into
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downtown Marion, we go into the
marrying drug and he'd sit at
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the counter and we'd all order
ice creams.
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These with it with whipped
Maple, walnuts on top and they
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were 35 cents, you know, and you
would get one of those there was
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there was he's like be calm
things that we did.
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There were treats then we go we
go to Preston, it wasn't.
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I think he lived and show how I
just on the outskirts where my
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mother's Farm some point where
her grandmother owns this Farm
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across the street, and the kill
bees were there and they were
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just the sweetest older.
Apple at the time, I think
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they're dead now but they were
in there.
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My God, they're in there so
demands and son.
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He had a pool table upstairs, we
used to play pool, you know, and
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just things like that, you know,
chain-smoked.
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Like many people know he used to
mow the used to mow the the
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cemetery behind his house.
Everyone find his house.
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Was he the keeper?
Or was it just a few things?
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Kind of the, I think it was the
keeper.
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And I think that one time they
had dug a grave because somebody
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had died and he passed out
because of the Heat and he was
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as tall man.
That just Very thin always
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smoked. sweetest guy, you'd ever
meet Preston, but he passed out
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and the grave and it was like, I
remember the story and it was
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sort of like, oh my gosh, that
he was digging it, he's taking
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the great.
Well, you had to dig the grave,
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he dug the grave for somebody
else, and this is back and they
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didn't use backhoes, they use
shovels.
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So I was little, yeah, I mean up
here we use a backhoe and it's
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50 Scoops and you're done.
But they were that's they still
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use shovels, you know, this was
in 60.
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So but and also he and he was, I
think it was in the 70s then so
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Super, super active person, and
a little store there.
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Preston store, you know, the kid
know the kill bees store there
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and in, and they had all this
five and dime and candy.
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And, you know, it's just sort of
like a regular General Store
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that bolts of clothing.
I mean, cloth there, that people
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come in and buy because they're
right on the edge.
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I wonder if it's still there.
The real know, the real country,
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they were right on the man,
kids, maybe move the kiss
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before.
Got a little, you know, well,
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there's a whole lot.
Horrible stories about children
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down there too so really we
don't need to come here.
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We can we could ignore the yeah
yeah those are more stories
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about, you know, you know,
wondering if the the convenience
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store still family owned the be
interesting to think about now,
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they have kids family members.
The one that he he didn't he
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didn't do well and died early,
the family he was with, I think.
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One of them survived of the
whole family and that would be
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someone that would be about.
probably in her 40s today that,
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you know, so What these were
when you go down there and you
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and you go to that part of the
country.
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Whoa I mean alcoholism do it
everywhere everywhere and not
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just like not just Virginia,
Aurora lie.
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I would say that.
Yeah.
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But I mean and they didn't go to
liquor store.
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They made it so it's like twice
as potent.
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Just like West Virginia, and I'm
going occasionally, it's not
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good and they die.
So, our you're blinded or
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something?
Yeah, yeah me, you're talking
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dry counties, and if the
counties dry?
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Well, no, it ain't, ya know,
somebody's got.
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That's where the best place to
sell liquor is to the people
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that don't have can imagine
where you can mark it up a
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premium to provided.
You don't get caught.
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Are you think about the Dukes of
Hazzard and I'm running through
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the but he's like, Yeah, but you
see the like what happened from
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that?
Hold it.
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This is about my childhood
vacations right?
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Yeah This is what we do that.
We Splinter.
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Yeah, entering we going to start
off.
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And it's like, you start going
One Direction and then you go
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left, you go right?
And you go straight and they
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come back.
That's what the shows about.
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Yeah.
That's kind of neat.
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That's what the show is all
about.
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Yeah, I'm trying to think like,
my sister had one.
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She went to Florida and went to
Disney World, but that was like
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when she was 11, And that was
the only way I can ever
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remember.
We're we went somewhere else
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that no one did.
It will?
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She did.
I mean but we always every year
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she went with your family.
She won't friends friends
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friends that year and got to go
to Disney World and I remember
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she saved up like a hundred
bucks and now which I must take
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a long time.
Yeah.
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No.
She was like amazing at that.
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She just like Very, very good at
looking to the Future and the,
456
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you know, the hardest working
person I've ever met.
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You know, my brother was really
hard but she work twice as hard
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as he did.
But you know, we can argue what
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they were.
Gosh, that's a great story
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though.
I really want.
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Yeah.
So what's next?
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What about your childhood?
Never have any stories and you
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have any choice ones that I
specifically remember.
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I, we used to go to the beach
all the time.
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I remember that.
I think that was really the
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first Rehoboth in the fine.
We go roll with every year.
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We probably been every year
since 1991, maybe this.
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You whenever you're not really,
yeah, welcome a long before
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you're there because she had an
uncle Uncle John, that had a
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house up.
There we go.
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Oh yeah, yeah why I remember it?
Born in after that but we rented
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our own places and then over
time it's like we looked all
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over because we want to get a
beach house and all this.
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We looked at a park city were
going to go skiing and then
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luckily, we didn't because she
stopped skiing, you know, we
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looked in.
We look at Florida.
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We looked at all up and down the
still so much to do though other
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than ski there.
Yeah.
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And then we went, we ended up, I
mean I've been cool for you
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bought that house were looking
at data, been a great money,
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which one I remember going.
And it's funny that you
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mentioned Park Center wiper
going out the back door.
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Or oh my God.
I remember going in there.
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I'm like, I really hope.
But if you think about it yeah
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we would have never gone there.
We would have never gone there.
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Never do, we would have forced
ourselves once a maybe more, so
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maybe it's so different.
Why are there that we noticed
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myself?
The fly out there twice season.
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We would have spent more time
too because it's so far away and
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also, I would have done it in
four during the Summers.
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A tag on their Journey said
Dusty stuff and also our city
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during the summer is ridiculous.
What is it, son?
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What is it called?
Oh, Sun Valley or something like
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that.
Now what?
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That holds the big, there's a
big Hugh Hidden Valley, Hidden
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Valley?
No, not it randomly.
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Yeah.
Yeah.
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The ranch coming.
Where is that?
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Based on, I think I drove the
wedding.
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I don't know what's the movies.
They do the movies out there.
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They all come in to Park City.
Oh Sundance Sundance.
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That's that's where it's at.
Its importance.
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City.
So we would have been like front
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routine.
Rented, the damn Haute or house
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for a million dollars and paid
for half them.
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We could have shot our own films
man.
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Yeah.
Oh yeah.
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I mean we still can we still got
me?
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That's kind of what we're doing
here.
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Yeah gosh.
But I think on that note, we're
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going to wrap up or reach our
time here.
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Yeah.
And I think this was a very,
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very incredible character.
I think it was like, always and
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we love our viewers as always.
And look out for next week's
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episode.
Because it's coming at you, hot.
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You have anything else to say
the question is, should we dress
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differently?
I think we're actually matching
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right now, I didn't wear my
summer talk today we're probably
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going to rob a liquor store
later so we want to make sure
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that we're dressed properly.
Exactly, I need for my ski mask
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next time.
Alright well thank you party on
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man.
Haha bye.
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You going to say hello?
Yeah, I am.
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So say it now actually.
Wait, we're gonna be cut the
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whole I wait on it and now we
can add it.
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We can edit it.
But um, already three, two, one.
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Yeah, welcome back to another
episode of a record of my
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father.
Today, we're going to be talking
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about childhood vacations and
what those look like, both in my
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life.
And also, in my, my Dad's life.
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What was an example of a
vacation, when you were kid, Oh
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me, I for me.
My biggest memory of childhood
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childhood vacations was the
first one.
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I remember we took was probably
like 67 so I was like, seven,
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eight years old.
We would go down to Hungry
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mother State Park, which is down
near Mary in Virginia.
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And my mother's relatives live
down there, it's very odd
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because we would hit the first
time we would doubt.
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It was me my sister and two
brothers, and my mother and my
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father stayed home too.
Watch the house.
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Which we'll get into that later
or the dog or whatever.
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The hell it was.
Anyway, we went down there.
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We'd stay there a week you could
rent.
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You could literally rent a, what
do you call it?
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A cabin for about 100 bucks for
a week that it was like, really,
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it's still pretty cheap to rent.
I think it is to be to rent
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hotels like that.
I mean cabins, they still have
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heat, they running water you.
You you cook on a stove so they
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have gas and they have a
fireplace and stuff like that.
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And it's a great place to take a
bunch of kids and go there, we
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climbed the mountain there,
there's a mountaineer called
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Molly's knob and it was named
after this, Indian lady that ran
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away from being tortured by
white men, climb the mountain or
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something like that.
It was, you know, they had a big
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lake there, we used to Grant
paddle boats and and then we
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would horseback ride.
And then we visit mostly what we
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do is visit relatives or invite
relatives out, you know, a lot
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of a row.
Elves lived in the Marion Area,
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and they would come down or they
wouldn't, you know, depending
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upon there's a whole lot of
fang, Li family angst, and
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strife over, who was more of an
asshole in the other person and
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stuff like that, we were
younger.
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So we always kind of dealt with
that, you know, it was it was
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very, very different.
What do you mean by different?
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Well, it's very, very different.
I think that I think that that
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part of it, you know the fact
that we never went on a vacation
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with my father.
Never, he never went to this
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state park.
No, not even one time, while not
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want to.
And and you think there's a
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reason for that, right?
There's got to be some reason,
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what we found out years later
and When I'm at my new
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stepsister, I guess you would
call her.
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She's 72, she's older.
She's from his second marriage.
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He actually met her in the
mid-60s.
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She stopped and said hi to him
and because they were worried
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that he was going to come back
and and do things, you know.
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So and they technically weren't
divorced.
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So she's older than you were.
Yeah.
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She's got ya by like 50.
Years over 50 years old and my
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brother by largely you know,
she's mid 70s now.
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God, but I mean sweet lady, nice
because you and open it.
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There's no she was in the
Fairfax County School System.
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She was a teacher for 35 years,
she know she came back and was
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weak mad and we talked about
that.
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And so yeah, I was down there in
67.
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I saw him at the Bob's Big Boy
and all this and you're just
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thinking, like, weird, you know,
but you know, I mean you meet a
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relative, you never knew you,
you kind of thought you had One,
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but you weren't sure and then
you meet them.
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And then that's the thing.
And this is about my vacations
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as a child, right?
Anyway.
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Anyway.
Think well, yeah, she was
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pushing them to sign the divorce
papers and 67.
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He signed the divorce papers.
So there was definitely a
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separation from him and her
mother.
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And she, we were born.
And I was born in the 50s.
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So then my mother and father got
married in the late 60s, the
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dressing.
I can't.
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Yeah.
Yeah, that.
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Well how did you how did you
figure out this woman?
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Was your sister.
How did you?
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Initially because you've I'm
assuming you found that out much
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later on.
Oh yeah.
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No, no.
I kinda knew that we had a
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sister somewhere but then my
brother died and she when he
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died his obituary.
She saw his obituary in his
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father and she came up with
that.
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She was like, oh my God and she
reached out she reached out to
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me and I was like, wow, this is
weird and she you know, and I
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said, I knew that he had two
previous marriages and I knew
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they had a kid.
Here there but I had know how
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the hell you gonna track down.
Somebody named Brown shit.
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Yeah.
You just can't, you can't do
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that.
There's it's a lifelong thing,
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but it was some cool shit out of
the Woodworks.
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Is really nice loves dogs animal
person, just wonderful stuff.
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Anyway, that was just from the
death of your brother, she
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figured that out.
Yeah, yeah.
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How did she?
Did she say that like, how she
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figured that out?
It was a just, just like, well,
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weirdly.
She must have had some kind of
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alert.
Ah, dad would be proud.
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Bud Tudor be a third, or
whatever the hell else.
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Do you know my father's day?
Because I'm sure in the Fairfax
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County area, they number of last
names that are brown.
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She knew that he lived in
Northern Virginia didn't aware,
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but Brown is brownie shit.
I mean once again you know
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there's there's it doesn't mean
anything am within a five mile
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radius of where I am.
There's probably six Phil Browns
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weird, believe it?
Yeah it's not it on.
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One of them is Phillip Lee which
is like really the hell does
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that There's somebody in order
to keep stealing your identity.
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God, we used to go down there.
We would hang out at the park.
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Sometimes we camp, you know,
they live in tents for a week
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but it was just you know, you
cook out every night.
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You cook over a fire every night
at dinner was like, really like
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hot dogs hamburgers.
No talking about a fun.
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I mean and you know, my mom
would leave us to sort of beat
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or own Meats.
Like we always stick mirrored
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home.
We were left to do whatever the
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hell we want to do pretty much.
About stay out of too much
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crime, or, you know, it didn't
matter.
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If you committed a crime, just
couldn't get caught, you know
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what we're good at.
And look down there.
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I remember that she had
relatives, come over and one was
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this guy named Max, and he would
come over, and he picked her up
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and took her and we left and
then later, I found out that
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that was her first husband.
Wow.
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Yeah.
They used to drop as of the park
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and then she would leave for
like the whole day's leave us at
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the park and it's like you're at
a national park and you can go
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hiking and walking, you can do
anything you want.
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There's no TV.
So what you gonna do?
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You gonna go outside?
You chop wood for this, there
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wasn't any wood but they, I mean
they had some big rounds of wood
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that you could shop so you can
make a fire and we would make
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fires because we're you know, we
could make far home.
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So what makes you so confident
that your These are all from
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your biological father.
What makes you confident?
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And then I mean, I have pictures
of when they were born when my
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parents.
Okay?
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That's okay, frankly, that's the
only reason why that I was just
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I thought that was a pretty good
question, a little bit, but it
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was a good question.
I mean that I mean, when you
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look at it, you look at the
pictures.
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Also, you look at the character,
not necessarily characteristics.
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As I think characteristics can
be taught, you know, you can,
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you know, you can develop
certain ticks that you're, you
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know, you're Adoptive parents
have picked or whatever the
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case, but mine were like, I
look.
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What is it?
My brother's spy, my one of my?
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Brother's, I look a lot like,
and I sound a lot like them, my
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sister, and my other brother
have many similar
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characteristics and they're also
like, there's a, you, there's a
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understanding or whatever it is.
I don't know.
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You know, when you're younger,
you feel.
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I would say that.
All of you look smack like one
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another as well.
And that's that's very key, I
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think.
Yeah, and I'm looking at a
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family.
But what else, what else was
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hungry, mother State Park was
the number one?
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How many people like you're
saying a lot of?
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Well, there were, there's five
of us.
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Fucker in the beginning.
But then like the very next
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year, my brothers would go off
to Camp Goshen.
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So they went off at Camp Bastion
and there were scouting sounds a
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bit.
The cap think it was like 1354
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yeah they would go down to Camp
Goshen and stay there for a week
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and they went we would go and
that was our vacation and it was
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like it was really very neat.
We would always eat food that we
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never ate, we get like
peppermint candies and all this
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kind of stuff that we never had.
Home and you would save money.
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So you would have that
opportunity to spend stuff like,
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you know, you better not spent
that now because then you won't
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be able to ride a horse, when we
go down to Marion because, you
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know, my mom would pay for
certain stuff but I mean she was
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a gs1.
So you can't, you know, we're
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there was there were six people
living off six thousand dollars
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a year seven thousand years.
So we were, we were scraping
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Knuckles to get by, you know.
And that's the whole, you know,
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hunting for bottles and all that
kind of stuff like that.
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And everybody had a job.
All like paper boys and stuff
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like that.
So you would always save your
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little bit of money.
So when you went down there that
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you could buy a candy bar that
your brother couldn't buy your
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sister, couldn't bust, you could
eat it.
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Robin eliminates right and just
be a total shit because that's
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what kids do it is I have this
you don't know what's always a
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great story of my brother when
he went to work for a
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restaurant.
Any and he used to get a sub and
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he would come home, and my
mother asked him.
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And I remember we're all sitting
table.
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It's like why do?
You have to bring it home, to
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eat it.
Why can't you just eat it there?
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And then I bring it home, he
goes, well, you know, it tastes
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so much better when I bring it
home.
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Well, it's not when you he
brings it home, it's when he
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eats it in from the right.
He stood in front of his
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exactly.
That mean that was it, that was
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it.
So and I mean, when you think
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about that, it's like, when
somebody desires something and
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you have it and it's yours, it's
an especially when you're a
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little kid, I mean, he was what
15 minutes.
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So, you know, I have shit.
You don't know if I was that
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evil when I was 15 and I don't
think he's pretty fucking evil
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but uni of sibling, so it's
different but there's a photo of
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you in the house and no
providing Pony.
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Oh yeah.
Is that where that is?
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Is that?
No no no that pony, was it
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Potomac View Elementary School
they used to have like this
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Carnival down there and they had
a pony ride one year and I got
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on the ponies and have like six
of them or something and it was
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like a quarter nickel or
something like that, okay.
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A jumping on the pony and got a
picture.
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You know, I did I rode in
Southwest Virginia rode horses.
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I can still remember want to run
a palomino but they were like
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horses, he hopped on and they
knew the trail and you just sort
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of following them and their
Giant and maybe they weren't.
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That's every horse I ever room,
you know I was like free foot
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five then so you know, they
picked you up, put you on a
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thing.
You stay on this giant horse,
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you know and it just walk along
the trail and go along the
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mountains and stuff like that.
It was it was just wicked cool
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because shit you couldn't do
anywhere else.
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And also it's like that it's a
story that that other people
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would say like wow, you got to
ride a horse, you got to do
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this, you know what it's like
when your kid, those are the
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kind of things that you look for
to do to say that, you know,
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like your life is wonderful and
it differentiates you from other
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people and lives.
A lot of people look for that
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stuff.
I didn't kids in particular look
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for that because you're looking
for this validation is like wow
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you know my life is great until
you learn to self out
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self-validation.
Yeah.
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Well yeah, some Ever learn that
skill.
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That is true that some people
never learn do validate, but I
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will say that.
Um, yeah, no, I think it was
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kids specifically.
Yeah.
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Validation on places that
they've been or things that
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they've done.
Oh, gosh, a humongous.
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But that was, that was a very
singular moment as well.
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Like, you did not get these
vacations for your often.
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I don't want to at least see
your recollection once here.
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Yeah, yeah.
What a other than that, what do
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you do?
You remember anything later on
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you guys used to do?
I mean, The weird thing is that
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I don't try to remember.
We never had a vacation that
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wasn't down in Southwest
Virginia.
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I mean, my parents whole life
and never went like AA.
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Let's go to Ocean City or let's
go to Rehoboth or let's go to,
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you know, anywhere, let's go to
New York City.
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Let's go to, let's go to
Chicago, let's nothing, zero
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zilch, not gotcha, only there,
that was it.
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Hmm, and it was going out as
before 81.
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So he always took these little
back roads and it was always
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funny because it was six hours
to get there.
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And now it's like for my mother
would always get lost for hours.
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Yeah she would always get lost
at least once we got down to the
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Tasty Freeze and we all get
tasty fries, burgers.
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And it was like, just the most
amazing thing because when you
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eat, when you shitty food all
the time and you know poor
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people food You know, we need
that all the time and all of a
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sudden someone takes you like a
McDonald's or something.
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It's like, wow, it's a treat
because you can't afford that
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and that's not stuff that you do
every day and you do, the it's
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really really unusual and once a
year you would do this.
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So is so amazing to me.
If you get that like, wow, it
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was such a special tree, you
know.
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You look forward to it.
Oh yeah, yeah, if you would like
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any but you pick and choose
because you knew that you got,
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you got 75 cents.
What do you need?
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If you're not going to get,
you're not going to get them,
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you're going to have to get food
that you can fill you.
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And then you really just want
the milkshake.
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It's like, no, you can't do
that.
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You have to have a, you have to
eat like a burger thingy, you
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know?
In the burgers were like, whoa,
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no one kills burger.
Oh my gosh, it's on the grill.
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So it has, it has tomato and
lettuce and onion nothing.
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I mean, when you're a kid, we
didn't have that on, you know,
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you know, different not exactly.
You know, so that was kind of
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like, wow.
And going down there, we went to
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my head like gradient Majid
lived out, Chilhowie.
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We went to Chilhowie way.
I want to hear how chill alley.
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Well, that is where Mr. Theater
is, are you from your evil with
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all those a person you as an
actor should know this?
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It's where a lot of really go.
I know exactly what you're
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talking about.
It's a huge Shakespearean
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theater.
Right.
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Right.
No no no.
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It does a lot of different
plays, not only Shakespeare.
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It does change me of one.
I saw last shot right there.
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I saw Dracula there.
I saw a martyr thing.
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It's called barter theater.
Yeah, it's inch a powder jigna,
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the whole town closed down on
Sunday.
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Is there still blue laws down
here?
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You can't drink on suntory can't
buy beer on Sundays or whatever
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it is.
You have to go.
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We used to go out to the the
what was it?
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There was a trailer across the
state line that we would go with
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Bob and bye.
Bottle by jars.
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Mason jars of moonshine.
Why were you down there?
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That's what.
I don't know how when you were
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nine.
Okay.
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Yeah.
Okay guys I was like, it was
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like, we gotta get something to
drink someday, you know, you
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don't Pile in his truck and his
truck was like one of those old
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three Cedars.
And there was five of us in the
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front and we would go there and
it was and you would go and you
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put money in the front door.
And then, you know, you went
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around the corner to the to the
tree and it was in the hollow,
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the holler of the tree, you
know, when you pull it out and
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hold it up to the Sun that sun
shine through it, it was blue,
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black.
Nothing you ever saw hose?
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Blew it wasn't clear.
No, no it was you could see the
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Blue Sky.
Oh, this blue skies do clear.
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You know, what?
I remember going back to their
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house and pour in the a port, a
couple drinks and they gave my
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brothers, and they were like 11
at the time and they give him a
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like maybe a little bit.
Oh, God.
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They were, they were, they were
screwed up.
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It was funny.
I can't imagine.
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It's funny to watch because I
was like, seven, all I wanted,
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you know, but they're like, no,
you're you're already
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brain-dead.
They don't need to encourage
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that you're a brown.
I mean, yeah.
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Yeah.
We had a lot of Regulation,
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around the Mind goes.
Yeah, very little, it's so much
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fun.
So much time.
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Where is that in relation to the
the vacation spot.
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How a virgin.
So that would be about an hour
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and a half South down mouth.
So still we used to go To
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Pulaski is where she had her
brother lived and he was work
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for Coca-Cola Bottling for like
35 years.
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He's a truck driver and did that
let me stop there and stay the
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night.
And then we would go down to an
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area in Virginia and we had the
place there and then she had her
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other brother that lived across
and The heck was it West
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Bluefield Bluefield?
West Virginia he lived in a
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trailer park there, he owned the
trailer park, I think, and he
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would come across and visit us
there and bring his wife and it
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was just, you know, Hillbillies
reunite and I guess, you know,
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and then come back.
Yeah.
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Do keep in contact with any of
those, the bloodline, the the
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that man's daughters.
Daughter on Facebook friends
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with okay but that man is dead
and that means daughter's death
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and that means daughter's
daughter is someone who's a
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Facebook friend that I mean
Edwin linked up with her
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somehow.
He has been doing that recently.
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He's been saying about all these
peoples.
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Yeah, that's my oldest brother.
He does that.
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He's got this thing about
reaching into the past and
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understanding more and I'm just
sort of like, I think it's, I
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don't know, we're tracking out
these people and what they're up
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to.
Like, if I go back and look at
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friends of friends of friends,
and I think about that one
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person.
I'm at this one time when they
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be interesting to see what
they're doing now.
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Like, I think they are pretty
pretty fascinating, especially
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with how far you guys went back
and to see what those Those
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people are doing like 30 years
later God.
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Well, yeah, I mean, it's like
you go to your high school
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reunions.
See the people.
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There were like six.
They have an annual golfing
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tournament where you see him,
and I don't see him that often.
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And I mean, I hadn't seen him in
the high school was everything
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about the high school reunions,
golf, trip something like a
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decade.
You got you see what other kind
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of?
I mean that was that was the
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vacation we have we have that
every year and we would go into
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downtown Marion, we go into the
marrying drug and he'd sit at
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the counter and we'd all order
ice creams.
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These with it with whipped
Maple, walnuts on top and they
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were 35 cents, you know, and you
would get one of those there was
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there was he's like be calm
things that we did.
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There were treats then we go we
go to Preston, it wasn't.
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I think he lived and show how I
just on the outskirts where my
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mother's Farm some point where
her grandmother owns this Farm
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across the street, and the kill
bees were there and they were
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just the sweetest older.
Apple at the time, I think
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they're dead now but they were
in there.
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My God, they're in there so
demands and son.
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He had a pool table upstairs, we
used to play pool, you know, and
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just things like that, you know,
chain-smoked.
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Like many people know he used to
mow the used to mow the the
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cemetery behind his house.
Everyone find his house.
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Was he the keeper?
Or was it just a few things?
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Kind of the, I think it was the
keeper.
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And I think that one time they
had dug a grave because somebody
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had died and he passed out
because of the Heat and he was
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as tall man.
That just Very thin always
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smoked. sweetest guy, you'd ever
meet Preston, but he passed out
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and the grave and it was like, I
remember the story and it was
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sort of like, oh my gosh, that
he was digging it, he's taking
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the great.
Well, you had to dig the grave,
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he dug the grave for somebody
else, and this is back and they
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didn't use backhoes, they use
shovels.
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So I was little, yeah, I mean up
here we use a backhoe and it's
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50 Scoops and you're done.
But they were that's they still
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use shovels, you know, this was
in 60.
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So but and also he and he was, I
think it was in the 70s then so
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Super, super active person, and
a little store there.
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Preston store, you know, the kid
know the kill bees store there
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and in, and they had all this
five and dime and candy.
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And, you know, it's just sort of
like a regular General Store
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that bolts of clothing.
I mean, cloth there, that people
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come in and buy because they're
right on the edge.
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I wonder if it's still there.
The real know, the real country,
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they were right on the man,
kids, maybe move the kiss
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before.
Got a little, you know, well,
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there's a whole lot.
Horrible stories about children
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down there too so really we
don't need to come here.
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We can we could ignore the yeah
yeah those are more stories
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about, you know, you know,
wondering if the the convenience
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store still family owned the be
interesting to think about now,
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they have kids family members.
The one that he he didn't he
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didn't do well and died early,
the family he was with, I think.
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One of them survived of the
whole family and that would be
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someone that would be about.
probably in her 40s today that,
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you know, so What these were
when you go down there and you
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and you go to that part of the
country.
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Whoa I mean alcoholism do it
everywhere everywhere and not
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just like not just Virginia,
Aurora lie.
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I would say that.
Yeah.
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But I mean and they didn't go to
liquor store.
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They made it so it's like twice
as potent.
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Just like West Virginia, and I'm
going occasionally, it's not
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good and they die.
So, our you're blinded or
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something?
Yeah, yeah me, you're talking
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dry counties, and if the
counties dry?
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Well, no, it ain't, ya know,
somebody's got.
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That's where the best place to
sell liquor is to the people
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that don't have can imagine
where you can mark it up a
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premium to provided.
You don't get caught.
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Are you think about the Dukes of
Hazzard and I'm running through
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the but he's like, Yeah, but you
see the like what happened from
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that?
Hold it.
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This is about my childhood
vacations right?
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Yeah This is what we do that.
We Splinter.
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Yeah, entering we going to start
off.
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And it's like, you start going
One Direction and then you go
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left, you go right?
And you go straight and they
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come back.
That's what the shows about.
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Yeah.
That's kind of neat.
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That's what the show is all
about.
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Yeah, I'm trying to think like,
my sister had one.
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She went to Florida and went to
Disney World, but that was like
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when she was 11, And that was
the only way I can ever
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remember.
We're we went somewhere else
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that no one did.
It will?
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She did.
I mean but we always every year
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she went with your family.
She won't friends friends
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friends that year and got to go
to Disney World and I remember
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she saved up like a hundred
bucks and now which I must take
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a long time.
Yeah.
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No.
She was like amazing at that.
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She just like Very, very good at
looking to the Future and the,
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you know, the hardest working
person I've ever met.
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You know, my brother was really
hard but she work twice as hard
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as he did.
But you know, we can argue what
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they were.
Gosh, that's a great story
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though.
I really want.
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Yeah.
So what's next?
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What about your childhood?
Never have any stories and you
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have any choice ones that I
specifically remember.
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I, we used to go to the beach
all the time.
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I remember that.
I think that was really the
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first Rehoboth in the fine.
We go roll with every year.
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We probably been every year
since 1991, maybe this.
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00:25:08,500 --> 00:25:10,900
You whenever you're not really,
yeah, welcome a long before
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you're there because she had an
uncle Uncle John, that had a
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house up.
There we go.
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Oh yeah, yeah why I remember it?
Born in after that but we rented
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our own places and then over
time it's like we looked all
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over because we want to get a
beach house and all this.
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We looked at a park city were
going to go skiing and then
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luckily, we didn't because she
stopped skiing, you know, we
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looked in.
We look at Florida.
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We looked at all up and down the
still so much to do though other
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than ski there.
Yeah.
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And then we went, we ended up, I
mean I've been cool for you
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bought that house were looking
at data, been a great money,
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which one I remember going.
And it's funny that you
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mentioned Park Center wiper
going out the back door.
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Or oh my God.
I remember going in there.
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I'm like, I really hope.
But if you think about it yeah
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we would have never gone there.
We would have never gone there.
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Never do, we would have forced
ourselves once a maybe more, so
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maybe it's so different.
Why are there that we noticed
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myself?
The fly out there twice season.
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We would have spent more time
too because it's so far away and
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also, I would have done it in
four during the Summers.
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A tag on their Journey said
Dusty stuff and also our city
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during the summer is ridiculous.
What is it, son?
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What is it called?
Oh, Sun Valley or something like
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00:26:22,400 --> 00:26:23,100
that.
Now what?
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That holds the big, there's a
big Hugh Hidden Valley, Hidden
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Valley?
No, not it randomly.
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Yeah.
Yeah.
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The ranch coming.
Where is that?
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Based on, I think I drove the
wedding.
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I don't know what's the movies.
They do the movies out there.
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They all come in to Park City.
Oh Sundance Sundance.
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That's that's where it's at.
Its importance.
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City.
So we would have been like front
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routine.
Rented, the damn Haute or house
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for a million dollars and paid
for half them.
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00:26:50,400 --> 00:26:51,800
We could have shot our own films
man.
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00:26:51,800 --> 00:26:53,000
Yeah.
Oh yeah.
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00:26:53,200 --> 00:26:55,000
I mean we still can we still got
me?
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That's kind of what we're doing
here.
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Yeah gosh.
But I think on that note, we're
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going to wrap up or reach our
time here.
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Yeah.
And I think this was a very,
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00:27:02,900 --> 00:27:07,200
very incredible character.
I think it was like, always and
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we love our viewers as always.
And look out for next week's
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episode.
Because it's coming at you, hot.
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You have anything else to say
the question is, should we dress
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differently?
I think we're actually matching
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right now, I didn't wear my
summer talk today we're probably
519
00:27:25,600 --> 00:27:28,000
going to rob a liquor store
later so we want to make sure
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that we're dressed properly.
Exactly, I need for my ski mask
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00:27:31,600 --> 00:27:35,500
next time.
Alright well thank you party on
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man.
Haha bye.