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0:02 Welcome back to another episode of a record of my father. This week we're going to be doing a check in. You just had a birthday, didn't? You. Oh my God, I forgot about that. Yeah, you're old. I got this new. I got this new T-shirt. Did you notice that? That is November 16th. I'm 64, man. You know I want Social Security. You believe that shit? You're so old. I just, yeah, I take that I I signed up for me. It's a it's a psycho thing. Yeah. Anyway, what? Do what do you think about now that you're taking Social Security? How does that make you feel? Well, I think I left my last job in December of 2022. No one.

0:45 Yeah. Yeah. One, so I've been, I haven't worked for almost 2 years and I I was kind of kicking around little ideas with people and I've done stuff, you know gotten back involved with companies and I get dragged here and there and and I mean, I really feel like I'm retired. What I'm looking for now is the needle on my compass is sort of spinning around in a circle. It's like I'm on the North Pole and I got to move away from that and I got to get like move in a direction for something that makes me you know when I was talking to you out there and we were talking about you're like, well what do you want to do And I'm going like I want to play piano. Well that fell off the freaking table in about 20 minutes and then I'm late latest is jujitsu and I'm looking at that.

1:29 So I I I'll go take a few lessons and see if you know I don't break my face and. You look at my face. Have you signed up at all? No, no. I saw a couple of classes that are close and there's a one that's really neat that looks like it. I the thing I don't want to do is I don't want to go to one of these little, you know, Mr. Mr. Kim's, you know karate places where they teach jiu jitsu and there's a bunch of eight-year olds in there. Because then it's going to be like I'm a freaking pervert and I I just ain't going to do that. That just. I just can't. That's just so freaking creepy. It just. I was thinking, you know, I mean, you know what's funny? It's like, I wonder what entry level martial arts classes. I was going to say the entry level martial arts classes. Yeah, like how it can't be that difficult to find adult level classes. Yeah, but there's no way they would accept you not knowing that you're the age that you are. There's no way that it would be like. Well, yeah, I want to be a Scout master, but I couldn't. So and then I got kicked out of the priesthood. So now I think I think I want to get. Corrupt Taekwondo now.

2:35 Yeah, well, let's let's, let's joke about people's horror because that's all you can do, right? That is, that is crazy. Wow. So jiu jitsu, that's the next thing. Yeah, that's just something. I mean, there's a lot of things. I know a lot of people wanted to get into that and they really, really enjoying it. I think it's a well the thing. That's stuck with me has been the working out. That's that's really what stuck with me, you know, I mean the longest in between workouts since I, since we started doing the whole gym downstairs where it's in my backyard and it's like I can't really walk away. From it two years ago. That was two years ago, right? Yeah, yeah. It's like no longer than, say, 810 days. And usually that's because we went to Antarctica, you know?

3:16 Yeah. And then and then you guys made me do yoga. Oh yeah, yeah, on the boat when we got. The sweaty, fat drunk. Yeah, that was me. I was like, what smells like an ABC store in here? I was like, oh, oh, I know what it is. Dad, how are you? Oh. Oh my gosh, man, that was that was an incredible time. But yeah, so I've always actually been interested in jujitsu as well. That's that's funny. You tell me how it is. You tell me how it is. What about Tai Chi? You ever, you ever think about Tai Chi? I was thinking about that the other day. I think that's more mind and mellowness and concentration and things like that. What's the slowest martial art? That's what it. Is I am so ADHD that I can't.

4:00 I don't have that capability to focus. That would be amazing. Well, you. Should work. You should work on it. I'm 64. Do you think if I could have fixed it, I would have fixed it like 30 years ago? Yeah, exactly. And the way that I figured out how to fix it is to go into positions and jobs where they need you to do 100 things at once. Gotcha. I'm good at that. You know, I can't do one thing good. No way. But you give me 50 things to think about and I can. I can get them all started and all rolled and all moving forward. I'm, I'm, I'm really, that's just makes me happy, you know, just. Like somebody that believes in multitasking, right? That it actually exists.

4:43 Well, yeah, I think that I don't want to say that I'm actually doing two things at once. But I mean I I remember some of my favorite stories from years ago when I got the first professional job or first thing is I would have. I mean it goes back to when I was a kid and I used to get a list. I would have 10 different things and they they, some of them could only be done one at a time to go to the next one. But, but when I got in professional life you would you would start a process on something, start this ball rolling and say for instance and this was pulling microfiche and then you had to take it over and hand it to somebody to get it copied. You just. Can't complete the whole task and. You had a piece of paper and then you had to call the customer to tell them that you, you know, you're supposed to call them within 90 minutes to tell them that you're working on the order.

5:30 You got it. You build the information, it's in for copy. You'll you'll call them at the end of the day to tell them when it's going out, you know and then you and then then it's being copied. Then you have to go to the other another section of the SEC Blvd. and you get paper documents. And then you would pull that for somebody else's order. And then somebody else would want research and they would ask for specific types of things. And so you'd be thinking in the background. Sounds like, yeah. It's cool as shit because you're everything is just sort of like, you know, it's just it's it's just it's like a kaleidoscope. It's just like wow and everything's moving and you're just like moving you're you're moving with it. And for me that my mind was busy. I mean the worst thing.

6:15 You it was busy, It's not busy anymore. Saying it's not busy. No, no, no. That's the that's the problem. You let me not be busy and. Trouble. Yeah. No, I don't know, You know, much like anybody is. Well, no, no, not like me, I'm. Bad I'm. Just a bad person. It just rises up. And yeah, well, you got to overcome it, you know, You, you look for the things that don't work for you and you, you know, and you recognize them over time. I mean, not everybody's lucky enough to be able to recognize what their faults are. I mean, I don't do a damn thing about my faults, but I know what they are. At least you know what they are, right? I know what they. Are I can point them out, yeah, you did that. I did that. I did that. You know that.

6:56 I mean, I'm really good at someone comes to me and it's like, that's why I think that's why I've been married so long is, 'cause she would, like, look at me and she'll say something and I'll just readily tell her that this is what I did. And it was, you know, I I'm sorry. And she was look at me like, yeah, I won't. I mean, I I'm, I I genuinely. Change, yeah. I do, I I care and I try and I and and and things, yeah. No, no, no for sure. I think half of the battle is the recognition process cause a lot of people don't and they're not willing to. I don't argue the point well. It's goes back to my, my, my, the the integrity thing that is, you know, it's integral to any business partner, any person or any one of my friends. It's like we, I, you know you.

7:49 There's no reason for me to lie. Yeah. Like about anything except for you know hey does this dress look good on me You know. But beyond that it's it's which I always would My my comment to to my wife was always like, well, do you want me to tell you the truth? That. Means don't you want me to lie? Yeah, and that means don't buy it right, 'cause I'm very I'm, I'm, I'm very direct. That's my problem. Well, that's something that I got from you. It's really, really good, but not all the time. Exactly, yeah. It's.

8:29 Got it's got some issues yeah it does it does and and the the the problem is to know when to be direct and forceful and when not and even in my advanced age I. I don't know it. I think that, yeah. Because you always think that people want to hear the truth. You always think that. And then you're always thinking of direct applications of the people that you're talking to. But sometimes not everything is direct. I mean, sometimes you have that second trial. Of and also and also. I mean, I'm loud. Yeah.

9:12 So when you ask me my opinion and I come across my opinions, this, this and this, some people are frightened by that. They feel like I'm attacking them when I'm just like I'm passionate about what I do. So I don't know why that. I mean, to me it's. Just like. You know, for being. Angry. For being aggressive, for being mean, for being loud and and it and also have a little hearing issue. So maybe. Just a little bit, yeah. Actually, just a little bit. I'm right on the border, so I got the hearing aids and of course I don't wear them, but that that's another. Episode knowing that they're there, that you could use them. That's enough. That's. I think that's enough.

9:52 I think that's as far as you can. See, I was going to wait. I was going to wait until they, I mean, I brought the most advanced current ones that you can wear. They're all hyper quiet and small and everything. Oh. Yeah, yeah. They're the best in the market and I'm going to wait till they're old technology and then I'm going to go buy a new pair and I'm going to wear those for like a month and they're going to be like, yeah, it's about time and then I'm going to take them off. Do they have? So what is it? It's like those are earbuds or something. Pretty much they go over the over the outside of the ear. They're about they're only. About go over the outside. They're not ones that are just in your. Ear, because they are the microphone that captures what is being said. And then what they do is they amplify it and then they bounce it around and you have this little thing that sticks down the canal of your ear.

10:45 And that's what says hey, we're here. OK. You know, or whatever. Yeah, maybe that's not what it always. You might have been an audiologist in your past life. I don't. Know. No, no, no. Well, she explained it to me. OK, gotcha. Yeah, it wasn't I. Mean you were curious as well. You're like, why is do they always have that? Yeah, what the hell? Yeah. What is this? They always have the outside thing. I'm always wondering like why do they have the outside thing? Well, how do they catch the? They have to catch the sound, so they have to have a super high thing speaker. But also you got to remember, they have to like they have to pick it up and put it back into your ear. They have to put it louder, not too loud. They have to, you know. Well.

11:26 The horn, the horn that passes by you or the car that passes by you is louder than your voice. So you know, there's there's all that stuff that goes with it, so. I see that and I see that issue definitely. Yeah. I wonder what you mean. Microphone is like for one of those things, 'cause there's some way new. Yeah, I don't know. It's. Interesting. Well, they've gotten, they've gotten really competitive since they don't, I think they allowed Costco I think can sell them now. Oh yeah, A. Bunch a bunch of stores can now sell them without prescription, which I mean it's always been sort of a catch 22. You can get higher end ones with a prescription. But a lot of a lot of people that don't have money and they wouldn't manufacture the lower end ones can't afford to go buy thousands of dollars in hearing aids.

12:14 They're like. $5000 right? They're really expensive, yeah, I mean, but a lot of people want them to work good enough because they don't to have basically a car, you know, where the price of a freaking car or or or or or a vacation or whatever. To definitely, yeah. To put. Into their ears. And it's like, you know, when you're when you're tight with money. I mean, we were tight with money. My, my old man never would have got those, you know? It'd be like, well, better to go down. Better to scream at you to speak up, he might have. Had an issue as well, but you you can always put the funnels in your ears or something like that like in.

12:54 Yeah, that's that's what we did. Horton hears a who? Yeah, look at that. The Who people, Yeah. We put the funnels in and then we pour liquor down it. It's a good old brain. Liquor on the brain, right? Liquor on the brain. Where's the brain go? What the hell? I think it's liquor on the brain, but oh, anyway, what did I what I you mentioned something earlier that was before this started that sort of made me go. Getting the kudos from people saying that they started talking to their fathers more intimately because of listening to this podcast. Yeah, no idea. That is the reward that I've been looking for for this for the longest time and hearing a bunch of people talk about that and about how their relationships have.

13:39 Been so you don't give a crap about our together time. It's no, I really don't do it for other people, to be honest. I didn't either, so it was. Really, what I was doing for other people, because I'm an altruist, right? I think that's. Right. Me too. I would never. I would never want to. I'm not trying to advance my own thing. I'm. It's all about that. It's all about other. It's all about, yeah. But it is cool. No, no, I mean that's. That's very cool. That and and and here let let me bask for 1001 it had done and and and the and the glory of the 9000 million people that we've helped through passing this around. I think it's 7. Anyway, I think it's 9900 million, yeah. It's, it's, Yeah.

14:21 Yeah, but no, it's it's been a it's been a journey even since last year hearing about what you've been talking about and after you're being retired and where to go and to see. The different stuff. You've been what you've been doing and how it's all recorded now in this little, this little way and I think that's. Really. Well, you had, you have a history. Well, I mean, this is when we started this. I mean, I wish. I mean I wish that I had done this with my father because I don't. I mean we, I can go into all the different things that our relationship was. But that's that That's silly. I would have liked to know what his history was.

15:03 I would like to know what it was like to be in World War 2 and hit the beaches at Lady in Okinawa. I would like to know, you know, that stuff to me is like, whoa, you know, you don't, you know, and being in a foxhole and a guy gets killed next to you, stuff like that. It's just like what? What does that? I mean, that was a generation and they did not speak of it. And then he was in Korea, too. Yeah, the same with World War One. That was really when they they'd never talked about. Anything like that. And then there was shell. But even after that World War Two, people started to realize that you can't really be 18 years old and kill 50 people and be okay.

15:45 Or watch 50 people be killed. Or that or that or. Missing and that number of horrific accounts. Yeah. And it was surprising that I think that was one of the first times in history that we're like, wow, men aren't invincible against this mental health crisis that. Oh yeah. Has been provoked. Yeah. Many of us have seen first hand so. No, exactly. You. I mean, you, you live with them for a long time. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah. But anyway, I mean, I think about why do we talk? Why do we? Why do we have, why do we have?

16:26 Why do you talk to me? Why do I talk to you? Yeah. Why do you talk to me? That's. A good question. I'm putting you on the well. I think you always raised me in a in a way in which I was always comfortable. I was never, there was never a standoffish kind of point where I was like, I why? Why would I talk to this guy? Why would I do that? I think I always had intent and you always received it well. And I think that same thing with mom as well. It was always an open place to talk about what I was going through and what I was experiencing. And I think that's why we have maintained this relationship for so long and we'll continue to maintain it, right. Yeah. Yeah. I think that's the right way I.

17:07 Think so? I think it definitely is. I think having a different place for your people to talk about what they're going through is always going to be the better of the two. The. The latter being not not being in a comfortable space, right? And I don't think that that is proper. I don't think we even deserves that people. I think generations share different things. So you look at that and you're always wondering, it's like there, you know, there's a million books on parenting and all that shit and stuff that's, you know, and it's like I don't. And so I I never saw one that said, hey, when your kid asks you to do a a podcast, you should do it. I I didn't. I didn't find that book.

17:48 I just. Got tired of hearing stories. I think that's what it was. Yeah, you heard him all the time and you're like, I'm going to document him, so I can't. I don't have to. Listen to it again and I. Don't know. It wasn't only that. It was like each time the story changes just a little. Bit he was, he was. 4 feet 7. No, he was 6 foot. Two. He was almost 8 feet tall. Oh my God. His hands were as they were. They were. They were a little bigger than mine. His hands, They were as big as Catcher's mitts. His shoes. Were on the wrong feet. Yeah, they were on the wrong feet. He wants them backwards. But yeah, no, I think the reason why we still talk is because I grew up in an environment to where it was always all right.

18:31 It was always an acceptable thing. There's never shame either. I think that's a really big part, too. Is that? Yeah. If you feel ashamed for something the way that you feel, and then you're not, and you're not going to be very receptive, you're not going to want to talk about it. And I don't think that there ever was a shame, come to think of. I think it was very late. Shame. I think there's, there's, it hasn't always been easy. Oh, of course, and I mean for for for any of us. It hasn't, it hasn't been it hasn't been easy for any of us. But I think that I think that it's that we the one thing that I will always do no matter what. If if if anything ever goes wrong. If there is some dialogue between us that makes you that I do or that something else gets done. And you hear and you're in a distance and you judge me for that and you and you get.

19:24 I will always try to get you back to the table to talk. Because I think that I think that you can, you can lose people by not communicating. It's funny that you mention that. Yeah, no, continue. Sorry. You you get close to people and you stay friends with them and then something happens and you get disparate and then you sit back and and you both wait and then the only thing that happens is is you just you lose them. Yeah. And and I will not lose you that that's not that's not in going to happen just same thing with Valerie. It's not going to happen.

20:06 I'm not, no matter what. I will take the slap in the face. The punt I mean, and I'm I'm usually the one that's wrong. I mean usually the one screwed up. I'm OK with that. I am OK with that as long as there's communication. The thing that the thing that I cannot I cannot understand and and I've never been able to understand with with it is when people if you close me out. Yeah, I think that that's something. Well, people are too proud to go back and to analyze the situation. And I think, yeah, yeah. Then again, that's something you taught me. And it's like being proud is really about having those tough conversations, not avoiding them. And I think that that was always something as well. And going ahead first, even though no matter how uncomfortable it's going to be, how terrible the conversation is going to be, it's never as bad as losing that person forever. And I think that that is I.

20:58 Think that's it? Yeah, I think you, you, you, you hit on that. Exactly. You know, that's that's the thing that always makes me go like, oh, what's the, you know, I'm trying to remember what the point? Where is the point? How did it? How did you get to it? How did you arrive at it? How bad is it? Is it really that bad? And then you know and you can't wait. No, you can't. You can't wait. You can't wait at all. You gotta. You gotta. You gotta. Approach it right away because you will lose people in an interim if you if you ignore them, you cannot do that. You have to come back. You have to go after them. You have to. You have to just figure it out, 'cause if you can't figure it out, you know and and life's really too short to go through or get to the end of your life and have any of these that are uncapped. Unless they hate that or undeserving of your attention or.

21:55 Well, yeah. Yeah. There's there. There is. That you have to there is that learn to realize that, which is something that I think we're always learning about, especially with people that are not family right, But. Yeah, well, you do sports to earth. You, you, you burn down their houses. You, you know you. You salt the earth after them. You you know you. You shoot all their animals. You you you spray the you spray the clouds over their land that will make it turn a different color. You, you, you build a big thing like they did on The Simpsons to block out the sun on their part of the earth. And I think that's those are kind of the main things you could do and and stop water and there's a few other things but. Just to maybe a half a dozen or more, right?

22:38 But what was I thinking about? I think even more so today. People are so proud and not willing to have difficult conversations even though the the ready access is so much more present, which I think is funny. So that always is is something that I find interesting. Is it? Is it weird that so much of communication is through text? Yeah, the subjectiveness of a text message is incredible. I mean, I type the word poop into it and I texted someone and it's like, what does that mean? Context. Yeah, context of that. I mean, I'm weird as it.

23:19 Is. I think that's when our society started dying. And once when we started texting each other, Yeah, and then you. Stop. These phone calls are. Coming straight forward, yeah. That's why I mainly call. I don't, I don't do the whole texting thing. I mainly call people, 'cause I can have a 2 minute phone call and I can have a 45 minute text message. I like the yeah, right. Yeah, yeah. No. I always call first and then I'll text after if they don't answer. I don't. You know what's funny is the voicemail. I never leave a voicemail. Ever. I never do that anymore. I never do voicemails. I I don't. Because I I don't. And the reason I don't is because I think that you saw that I called. You'll know why I called.

24:02 And the only reason I leave a voicemail is like, if you call me up and you say, hey, I'm trying to decide green or blue, I will call and leave a message green. The thing I hate is if you call back and you say, call JA, call me back and you're like, dude, I just needed a simple answer. Yeah, when it. When it. When, when, when it's a simple answer, give a simple answer. That's sort of my thing, you know, Wow. The. Death of a voicemail, I think, is something we're definitely going to see. I'm surprised the voicemail box even exists anymore, to be honest. I don't know. I don't. Know I mean you know you one of your uncles that doesn't work I. Think it's. Full or he didn't cut it on. I don't even. I think it he hasn't. What?

24:44 What does it mean when you haven't set it up yet? I don't know what that means because doesn't a voicemail box just automatically come with a phone? Number The thing is, is I think that he he can see the phone numbers that come in so he can call back. I I don't because when I hear he always. Calls me back right afterwards. So I'm like, OK, so it does this and then and then I say hey and it says the voicemail hasn't been set up and then like an hour later he calls me back, you know, so. But what is like, OK, so hasn't been set up because I know when it's full it's full. But like when it hasn't been set up? Because I I've never set up a voicemail box. I don't know about you, but I've never set it went up, no. Oh, I have. That's when you go in and you go. Hi, this is Phil Brown.

25:25 You've called our house at da, da, da da da da. We're not here right now. Please. But that's like a message, an outgoing message, though I don't know if that's necessarily. No, that when you answer the phone, yeah, that's what you do to set it up. That's exactly how you do. It I've never done that though. I just have the robot. First, how'd you do it on your cell phone? The robot person just answers it the built in. Robot it It doesn't say hi. This is Zach. Please leave a message. No, no, no. It's just the robot person. Oh wow. Yeah. That's why I'm wondering. You may have had an it probably you probably said auto answer. Maybe. Maybe. Maybe that's what it is. I guess. It could be, it could be ND gosh. You got Can you tell can I tell what the time is? No, I have no idea.

26:10 I haven't gotten a 10 minute warning yet. So I think we're we're still good to. Go. OK, so you know that that's all I like to know is like where? We're at and where it's going, you know, like kind of stuff like that at one time. But now I don't. It's just up in the air. That makes me. That makes me want to like, look at a little more, 'cause I see all these things here and I don't want to. I don't want. To mess it up. Seen when I was in college. I don't even know. Wait when I was in the during the pandemic. I don't think that there was ever a runtime that I could look at when I was in a zoom meeting. I don't know listeners, if you would like to e-mail us and let us know that there's a runtime tab somewhere, that would be great. But meeting.

26:55 Information. So I'm coming back. Interesting. Yeah. What the? The 19 or something like that, yeah. What are we? What are we doing for Christmas? What? What are we doing? I don't know. What do you want? To do I, I was already planning like what I was going to do next year. No, I I got to go to North Pole. Well, I thought you already booked that. I thought that was already. Out. No I'm it's sort of like I I'm I'm having I'm having sort of trouble with agents I'm I'm on my I. Can't have my third. Travel agent? No. Well, I just give them a bunch of stuff and I'm like and yeah, and and I'm cryptic and all that kind of stuff. Well, I feel. Like, that trip is really hard to plan for a travel agent, right?

27:37 Well, I sent them two people that actually do it and I was in touch with them. So. Well, it shouldn't. It shouldn't be that big a deal. It's really going to be. Yeah, it's going to be logistics of getting you there from LA, Yeah. And meet me there from here. We have to go to Norway and then we from Norway, then we go to Corneo. I think it is. We take a jet to there. And then from. That's a camp that's 2 1/2 hours from the North Pole and then or through by helicopter. And then we take a helicopter to the North Pole. So it's a, it's a. It's a very arduous, arduous, arduous a. Good one.

28:17 Something like that, you know that's I. Mean. That's what I think, Indonesia. Indonesia what? No way on. No, I'm working with that one. Oh, we have, there we go. There's a 10 minute warning right there. OK, Yeah. North Pole that's going to be that's going to be crazy. Yeah. Is this worse than the Antarctic 1? What do you mean? Flight Walker, yeah. No, no, no. You had to go from. I mean, you went from LA. You went to where? Where'd you go to? My wife flew with you. That's when I was living there. So. So I flew. We flew from DC to Miami, Miami to Santiago right, Santiago to. That was, that was 10 hours.

29:02 Punto Renas to Antarctica that way. And then, yeah, that was. Then we went Punta Renas, then we landed at the base and it was the Chilean air base there, right? And then we and then we hopped in boats, river, whatever. There's little zeppelins were. And they zoomed us. Then they zoomed us out to the boat. Then we and all of our luggage was there, and then we went. We checked in and we looked at all our stuff and we found. Out that we were all in shoeboxes, Shoeboxes I was. So, and then what about the way back that was so funny when we we pulled into the harbor? Yeah. Then we pulled. Into the harbor and they're like, OK, it's it's Tuesday and we're supposed to go out tomorrow morning, but.

29:46 It. Seems like since we we all navigate by air, by sight down there, 'cause there isn't any, all these towers and everything. That's so funny. We don't. Have any? That's the only place that. That, he said. I don't wanna say. That we don't. But there's another place. We want what? I was just gonna say that's probably not the only place that there's sight left in the world. There's probably one other place. Yeah, yeah, I'm sure like. I can't imagine. I can't imagine just being able to land a plane by looking at the ground. I'm looking at the ground. Oh, I can barely drive some car and I can see. Yeah. Wow. That's it. I I mean, I gotta I I think about that.

30:26 And yeah, I. Don't I? Don't think I've ever really been scared on a flight yet. I've never been scared either. I don't. I can't think of one time I've been more scared in cars than I've been on planes. Oh gosh, yes. Yeah. Especially when when you're driving, yeah, it's. Just yeah, you should be. But I mean. Yeah, absolutely. I can't really. I've never been scared or scared on a flight at all. You ever see those videos on this turbulence world? Head on, ran off the road, I mean, but I've never been in a I'm, I'm truly in a car accident. I'd be more scared of going underwater than being in a plane. I got to tell you that if I was in a submarine or something, I'd be scared of that. I'd be more scared of the going underwater than turbulence on a flight well.

31:16 Where we should have been scared, which we weren't, is if we'd have fallen off the boat in yeah. But we're stupid. That's the. Thing we're we're stupid but. We're not dumb or something. Like that, Yeah, but we were getting hammered at the bar. You. Know. The wee hours of the morning and I saw my first whale at 12 O seven. Yeah, that was my gosh. At night when they kicked us out, 'cause we, you know, we closed it. I can't ever go on another cruise ever again. It's just endless binge drinking. Oh yeah, it's, it's for the. Did you see that new cruise ship they just built? And I think it was the Emirates and the freaking they've got these gigantic elevators, glass elevators from the outside, and it's just crazy. It's.

32:04 It's like 20 stories when you start with. The six things I was shown, God, yeah, no, They built a brand new one and I was looking at it and I was like, that's that's no carnival bruise right there. Jeez, yeah. They had like a pool with all the fountains and stuff in it and things like that. And they got the 10 story rock climbing wall. It does just feel like you're going to be in a shopping mall on the sea, though. That's the problem. Yeah, really does feel like that. Well, I think that cool would be clay pigeons off the back. Clay pigeon Oh, that would be really if there's if there's. 3000. They do golf balls or stuff. That no. Fire degradable golf balls. I thought they did. That well, they did that. That's OK.

32:45 But I've. Heard that? Yeah. Really. That they do biodegradable golf balls? Yeah, I've heard that they melt in the ocean. Yeah. No, that's definitely something. I've definitely. Could be ice. Could be ice. Yeah. Hey, Aaron. It could be Ice Man. Boy, how's clay pigeons better than than golf balls in terms of clay? Just dissolves because it's just clay. What about the bullets, though, that you're shooting? No, those don't. They're steel. And steel's not. Man made. It came out of the ground. Oh yeah, I guess you're right. It's a bio. No, it's not. It's what is it? Iron and ore and what else? There's like three things in steel. Yeah, yeah. Come on all you, all you constituents out there.

33:26 When you hear this, you got to say he doesn't know what the heck makes steel up. I don't think our question of the week is, is iron biodegradable or is it not? Yeah. Well it, Russ. You know I don't. Think it and Steel gets a film on it. No, it's. Aluminum's the one that takes forever. But I think we're we're about at our time here today, this week already. Thank you so much for listening. We're loving everything that you're giving to us and telling us and we might be back next week. We'll do another one of these next week and. Yeah, we got to get. We got to get more into that. We got to get. We're going to get our traction back, we promise. We promise We're going to get our traction back. But this one's going to be out on 12/5/2023 and we'll see you next week.

34:09 Thank you guys. So. Party on, old people, We should do a Christmas edition. Oh, we will do a Christmas edition. Oh my God. And watch out for that. New Year's is the one that'll make it. Everybody will hang up on us. Oh, everybody. 'S gonna hang up. We're gonna, we're gonna lose all our listeners.